>>331626 >spoiler I'm sure it's part of the appeal that they don't usually have as much as the smartass phones but I cannot find a single flip phone that can be modded to the extent that you would expect out of Androids. Take the Nokia 8110 4G. The bananahackers site has tinkered with it so much so that many things from the icons to the startup sound can be changed. All good until you realize it's network bands are not compatible in places like North America, not to mention that 3G was shut down last year, leaving the only available phones having 4G and 5G.

>>331656 3g was never shutdown, it was reallocated for use with 4g+ that is amrketed as 5g in america. Everyone got kicked off of it in spite of needing it in remote areas with fewer cell towers in order to provide more bandwidth for faggots in cities to watch 4k streaming bullshit on their phones.

>>331386 They are not wearing face masks in this video though

The Macaroon just got GAMERED after Ubisoft called in their assassins: https://archive.ph/lKcIt >>331656 >but I cannot find a single flip phone that can be modded to the extent that you would expect out of Androids. You're missing the point. All a cellphone needs is just a microphone and speaker. That's it. Everything else (Camera, accelerometers, touch screens, etc.) is unneeded or done better with other devices.

>>331659 Just because some other device does some particular function better doesn't mean having a mediocre multi-functional device is useless. Having a camera and digital display regularly helps me with work. I can capture images of problems on the job site to send to the office or coworkers, pull up a live video feed if pictures aren't enough, instantly create a copy of prints to draw on for changes, suggestions, & questions, and every smart phone has a calculator. While it's true most people won't use 90% of the functionality of a smart phone, it's also true that 90% of people don't need the highest end performance of the functions a smart phone has. Cameras have many daily or emergency uses that don't require being very good cameras whatsoever. I'm not going to carry a camera, calculator, and phone with me everywhere just because I can get higher end version of their functions from dedicated devices. My pockets and tool bag are full enough of shit I actually need for my job. I also can't quickly coordinate visual information with distant co-workers without a smart device.

>>331660 > Having a camera and digital display Sorry, I meant touch screen display.

>>331660 >I can capture images of problems on the job site to send to the office or coworkers, pull up a live video feed if pictures aren't enough, instantly create a copy of prints to draw on for changes, suggestions, & questions One problem: why do I need to be the one who provides a phone that the company requires for the work being done? Why doesn't the company provide employees with the tools needed (In this instance, a smartphone)? As I have said to every employer, during an interview, when they stated that I "need" to download their super special app in order to get hired, I am not going to install a company program onto my personal cellphone. If the application is that important to the position, then the company should be provided me with a phone. > and every smart phone has a calculator As does every device on the planet.

>>331662 >why do I need to be the one who provides a phone that the company requires for the work being done? Do you have them pay for your clothes, shoes, lunches, car, and gas too? And who said it was required by the job? Nothing I listed was something asked of me, but it all helps the job go smoother. My job has asked me to download one app, and nobody actually uses it, nor has been required to use it, because all it is is a dropbox with technical info for those of us that want to study building code to get better certifications for more pay. >As does every device on the planet. And how many of them do your regularly have in your pocket?

>>331662 Just get a $50 phone with a $5/mo data plan and tell them the app sucks when its slow. You can probably just leave that phone at home and not pay for another line if the app is useless. Otherwise consider better jobs that people always whine they have to wait months for contractors to do, like plumbing.

Granny GETs.

>>331665 As expected of hags, slow to everything.

>>331654 This is true. >>331655 >you're saying Truth isn't a matter of opinion. This is the conclusion drawn by axiomatic representations of reality. >>331658 Oh, it's not the only university that did minecraft graduations, by far.

>>331663 >And who said it was required by the job? Anon, I have had interviews for storage facilities, bicycle manufacturing, airport luggage, and delivery companies. EVERY SINGLE ONE required that I provide my own smartphone for the sole purposes of installing THEIR special application onto it, with said application tracking every' aspect of my life regardless of if I'm on the clock or not. I find that to be entirely unacceptable. > My job has asked me to download one app Then they should have provided you with a phone if said application was truly that important. >>331664 >Just get a $50 phone with a $5/mo data plan and tell them the app sucks when its slow. No. I already played that game with one company, where said phone just connected to the Wifi of whatever location we were working at (As I refused to pay for an additional phone line just for work) and they kept telling me, every week, that I need to install this other app because "reasons", on top of signing me up for services that kept flooding my email and text inboxes with junk that had zero relevance to the work I was doing. That's also in addition to a previous job where my manager demanded that I provide my personal cellphone number on the building's public list of contact information. After everything I have experienced over the past year, any company that requires me to provide a cellphone, for reason beyond the office giving me a call, can take their "help wanted" posters and shove it up their ass. I am not going to play this game.

>>331663 >actually defending corporate spyware being mandated on personal devices Get the fuck out of here.

>>331667 >Truth isn't a matter of opinion And it's true that feeding many people with little food requires breaking the law of conservation of mass.

>>331668 >Anon, I have had interviews for storage facilities, bicycle manufacturing, airport luggage, and delivery companies. EVERY SINGLE ONE required that I provide my own smartphone for the sole purposes of installing THEIR special application onto it, with said application tracking every' aspect of my life regardless of if I'm on the clock or not Never once had this happen. Maybe you just live in a corporate dystopia? Have you considered fucking off to somewhere less shit? >if said application was truly that important. It wasn't, so they didn't. But now that you mention it, I am paid for my phone, monthly. Even though it costs less than my monthly phone bill, and the excess has long since exceeded the price I paid for the phone itself. So yeah, you should probably live somewhere less shit. I get my phone paid for and it's not even required. Though it does help a lot. >>331669 Never did that. And it wasn't a company app, to be clearer. It was slack. And it was dropped later because no one used it and the guy organizing it lost the logins. Since then, it's just a dropbox link.

>>331671 >so they didn't Require it, that it.

>>331671 >Never once had this happen. Good for you. However, why are you trying to use that as as an excuse for why the rest of us should "accept" using a device that shouldn't be required for a job in the first place, and stopping just short of ridiculing people who don't want an all-in-one device? Like the other Anon said, you're defending the usage of corporate spyware. And doing it in such a way that you only talk about the "benefits" of the tech all the while never addressing any of the problems people have with said technology, or outright dismissing said problems as "Well, it doesn't happen to me". What you're doing is a way to prevent any further discussion over a very apparent issue by trying to dance around the subject or declare the discussion of said problems as being "overblown" by "a small minority". Two choices: either respond directly to the problems people are bringing up and discussing or fuck off.

>>331673 >However, why are you trying to use that as as an excuse for why the rest of us should "accept" using a device that shouldn't be required for a job My use during my job was just an example of the practical uses that smart devices have, which has triggered some autism causing this discussion to go on a tangent. >Like the other Anon said, you're defending the usage of corporate spyware. My company never made any application, nor did I tell anyone to download a company application if you're asked by your company. In fact, I explicitly told anon to move somewhere else if that's the only kind of work he can get. Why are you pretending you're illiterate? Do you just want to disagree with me on every point possible even when I explicitly agree with you on something? >And doing it in such a way that you only talk about the "benefits" of the tech all the while never addressing any of the problems Because anon said <All a cellphone needs is just a microphone and speaker. That's it. Everything else (Camera, accelerometers, touch screens, etc.) is unneeded or done better with other devices. As if specialized devices doing a better job of particular functions negates the practicality of the functions of a multi-function device. No fucking duh, I'm talking about the positives, as those are what proves him wrong. Follow the discussion, (1), not just the last two posts.

>>331673 If you can't figure out how to cuck corpware nor find a better job, then nobody wants to hear your luddite circlejerk on how flip phones totally can't track your location and have better privacy with unencrypted calls and texts.

>>331675 >My use during my job was just an example of the practical uses that smart devices have Yes, and the idea of going back to a more simple device is just crazy talk. > In fact, I explicitly told anon to move somewhere else if that's the only kind of work he can get Moving to a place that doesn't have those problems doesn't solve those problems. Even then, how do you know that the place you're moving too doesn't already suffer from the same problem? > As if specialized devices doing a better job of particular functions negates the practicality of the functions of a multi-function device. Yes, it does. "Multi-function devices" only exist to sell morons on the idea that investment into a device that can do "everything" is better than a device specialized to do the task you need it to do. >>331676 >your luddite circlejerk on how flip phones totally can't track your location and have better privacy with unencrypted calls and texts. Nice strawman of an argument that was never made.

>>331677 Thanks, I made it for you because you probably didn't think that far ahead.

>>331679 >ip hopping Guess that's that.

>>331677 >Yes, it does. No it doesn't. You don't need a high end camera for most things the average person would use a camera for on a regular basis, and you don't want to have to lug around a camera solely for taking such low quality pictures when that function is built into your smart device. Same thing with most other commonly used functions of a smart device that specialized devices can do better. The problem with smart shit is spyware, but that's not a problem with the technology to fit multiple practical functions into one device, that's a problem with the corporations making the devices and the consumers that put up with it instead of going to alternative multi-function devices without spyware, or making their own.

>>331680 Funny how the arguments degenerate to ad-hominem at the same time a bunch of (1)s jump to the defense of those arguments at the very end of a thread.

>>331681 Noooo stop excusing my problems, everything should change to suit me with no effort on my part.

I know, I forgot my link and archive has been screwy lately. >>331681 >You don't need a high end camera for most things the average person would use a camera for on a regular basis Selfies? No, seriously, what do majority of people use their smartphone camera for? The stats I'm finding states that it's for e-whore Instagram feeds: https://petapixel.com/2023/06/20/almost-all-photos-are-now-taken-on-smartphones-according-to-study/ >Same thing with most other commonly used functions of a smart device that specialized devices can do better. Such as? >The problem with smart shit is spyware, but that's not a problem with the technology to fit multiple practical functions into one device Yes, it is. If a feature is included in a device, that means the data related to it can be hacked, recorded, and transmitted.

The hell are you sluts arguing about now?

>>331686 Why people are "nuts" for wanting to use a regular "dumb" cellphone instead of a smartphone, and how you are the "problem" for even suggesting that smartphones should no longer be required for work. It starts here: >>331656

Oh good heavens, look at the time. Don't you wish you could go back and do things differently? Make a good future by being productive and not waste precious time talking about stupid shit in the NEW THREAD: >>889416 >>889416 >>889416 >>889416 >>889416 >>889416 >>889416 >>889416

>>331687 Nice strawmen. >>331685 >Selfies? >he stats I'm finding states that it's for e-whore Instagram feeds: <Vapid whores take the most photos, shocking study finds! Everything a non-photographer would use a camera for. Real simple. >Such as? Calculator. Now tell me, why are touch screens a problem? >If a feature is included in a device, that means the data related to it can be hacked, recorded, and transmitted. Then get a smart device with better opsec. The same could be said about your computer if you ever connect to the internet.

>>331689 >Everything a non-photographer would use a camera for. Which are selfies the overwhelming majority o the time. >Calculator. Which every device has. >why are touch screens a problem? Less precise than pressing a button. Also, depending on the type of touch screen, such as the type smartphones use, they can collect everything from your fingerprint to your heart beat. >Then get a smart device with better opsec. No such thing exists as nothing is "unhackable" (Just varying degrees of "retard-proof"). And, even then, the FLOSS-promoted smartphone still suffer from the same problem as regular smartphones, that you cannot actually disconnect the different components, nor provide the features people want, like a physical QWERTY keyboard. >The same could be said about your computer if you ever connect to the internet. Computers are in a similar situation, but a different problem. More than enough information has come out showing that Windows 7 still works fine. However that hasn't stopped M$ from trying to dag everyone kicking and screaming to W10 and W11 to datamine them, from ending updates to making it nearly impossible to access newer APIs. And the result of said action is that people have been driven away to either Mac or Unix rather than upgrading. And even after all that, the W10/W11 share of the market is just two third of ALL Windows users.

>>331690 >Which every device has. Such as? >Which are selfies the overwhelming majority o the time Why do you care that that's what it's used for the most? >Less precise than pressing a button. Git gud. The touch screen keyboard allows for the ability customize it, and use as extra screen space when not typing. >the FLOSS-promoted smartphone still suffer from the same problem as regular smartphones, that you cannot actually disconnect the different components Then tell them to get their shit together and make smartphones with modifiable hardware. >nor provide the features people want, like a physical QWERTY keyboard. Fitting a tiny little real keyboard onto a phone won't tangibly improve button pressing accuracy, just take up space. >More than enough information has come out showing that Windows 7 still works fine. I don't particularly trust any of it. Allegedly they claim you can fix the problems with Wangblows 10 too and disable all the spyware. The only way to be that certain of your privacy in the computer world is to be an expert yourself, or be a luddite that shuns computer technology like smart phones.

>>331691 >Fitting a tiny little real keyboard onto a phone won't tangibly improve button pressing accuracy, just take up space. Except for the fact that phones used to have slide-out keyboards that were completely separate from the screens. >or be a luddite And, there's the strawman.

>>331692 >>or be a luddite >And, there's the strawman. >>331684 >>The problem with smart shit is spyware, but that's not a problem with the technology to fit multiple practical functions into one device >Yes, it is. You might not self-identify as one, but it's clearly what you are. Unless of course claim this other ID isn't you and you haven't been IP hopping for the last while