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Worst scenario for you 16crystals 01/04/2018 (Thu) 07:23:38 No. 65960
Which of these two scenarios would hurt you the most? And which scenario would make it the most difficult for you to continue your relationship with your waifu? 1-You waifu dies in canon and it’s canonically stated that she is dead for good and will never come back. 2-Your waifu loves someone else in canon and it’s canonically stated that she loves this person with all of her heart and that she remains with him/her forever. I know some waifuists had to face one of these two unfortunate scenarios (and some probably even had to face both…). I would still like to know you guys’ opinion. In my case, scenario 1 would hurt me the most. Even if it would hurt me A LOT to know that Flandre would love someone else, at least I would know that she is alive and (hopefully) happy with the one that she loves. Now regarding continuing our relationship… Really hard to say… In both scenarios I think I would feel like living a lie… I can’t really know, and fortunately I will never know because Touhou Project is a comfy series with no death nor romance.
Both would hurt me terribly, but I would vastly prefer the latter option. Better that she finds something good. I can always pick myself back up and move on.
>>65960 I would only be bothered by her loving someone else. It's silly to expect her to live forever. If she were to live with me, something terrible could happen and she could die an early death, and that would be awful, but it wouldn't feel like a betrayal. Her loving someone else would make it really hard to think of her the same way. I'd constantly compare myself to this other person and I wouldn't feel comfortable being the way I am. I don't know if I would be able to continue loving her.
I honestly don't know. Both of these scenarios are terrible, and I hope they never happen. I feel bad for saying it, but I feel like scenario 2 would be worse for me. If she died, I would be unspeakably heartbroken, beyond words, but I would eventually be able to move past it. But if she ended up with someone else in her source, that delegitimizes all the time we had together, everything would just have been me deluding myself into thinking I had a chance. That would crush me, I think, and I don't know if I'd ever be able to love again if that happened. But at the same time, I also want my little Rose to be happy…These are both terrible and I don't know how to feel. I just hope they don't ever happen so I don't have to ever face such a thing.
Her death, naturally. I'd be really messed up emotionally and desperate from it, a lot more than the second option. It could bring up my depression and suicidal thoughts again honestly, so I don't wanna think about it too much. Damn, just typing this makes me feel uneasy. With her being in a canon relation, she'd be alive. It'll still hurt like a bitch, I won't lie. But hey, at least she is happy and loved by someone. Even if that someone isn't me. And yes, in both cases I won't continue my relationship. It's just… without a meaning you see. I'd just lie to myself that way! Yes 16cristals, thank god Touhou is not subjected to these types of development. My Meiling will always be there.
I guess I can only say the first one, which seems to be the obvious choice, because the second one is pretty much exists already for me. It's a thought that I kind of smothered whenever it came up, but it really is the indisputable truth. It may not be mine, but I don't know how long I can lie to myself for. You see, I first fell for her while I was first watching her source material, and it wasn't revealed until the very last episode. I didn't know what to feel, because I really didn't acknowledge our relationship being that serious (I thought it would be like other "waifus" I had in the past which would just be a character that I just found attractive), but I was unknowingly thrust into a weird situation and I just felt a sudden surge of emotions. Later on I realized that I was too far in love with her just to say "oh yeah, she doesn't love me so I'm just going to find someone else" like no, that wasn't an option. Now, I really don't know how to come up with any other excuse besides something like "that may be the real Freyja, but I have a perception of her that is based on her that loves me" and it all just sounds weird. That's why it's so hard to face her, in my opinion, because I'm treading on thin ice. Regardless, though, I'm confident that it doesn't affect our feelings for each other But if the first option really came true as well, then I would really feel heartbroken to the point of, well……….I don't know how to put it in words. It's something I've never really considered and hope won't actually happen. In memory of her, I guess I would have to carry on with my life, but I carry on as well the memories we've had and how she helped me see the world through another pair of eyes……
I had some difficulty starting to answer these questions because both of them will strike me to my core so badly. It will feel like a huge part of psyche has been chunked away irrevocably, that I have been scourged by destiny once more, and I have no choice but to move on, as I will be forced to do so. If I will still move on. The first one is because, one, Marisa has an interest in being immortal. If she dies, not only did she not achieve her dream, but also because I witnessed it. For everything she did to get to the top tiers of power, even her could not stop death even if she theoretically could. And I can only watch it, and not even be given a chance to anything, just anything, to save her. I might be able to continue a relationship with her, but I can only consider myself a widower. And whatever dreams I promised to her, it will be too late, but I can only do them now as a revenge against fate or destiny, or whatever force that will drive ZUN to kill her off like that. The second one is basically harder on me. And for a very good reason, other than the obvious: Perhaps that will be the punishment that was meant for me after I basically cheated on her once. I stopped doing so and said sorry to her, but I felt like it was not enough to make it up to her. I know it is meant for me, but I have no choice but to deal with it.. As for the prospect of continuing the relationship with her, I would very much like to, even if I have to swallow my ego for it, but I will then become a literal wittol. I don't want to become a wittol, because I have a hard time swallowing my ego, as it is a great insult against me, and it is unacceptable in today's political climate. What's worse is that this is the most plausible scenario, canonically speaking: Rinnosuke Morichika, the sole proprietor of Kourindou, is a childhood friend of hers. But he's more of a brother figure to her, so I can only hope and pray that ZUN will not delve into this scenario, and that the Westermarck effect will stop it. But my waifu is Marisa Kirisame from Touhou Project, and the nature of the series itself makes tackling this kind of topic deeply and seriously a pretty large stretch in the first place, as it has been said by Meilingbro and Flandrebro. Still, that fact does make the both prospects worse, because it will be a rude awakening to us all.
well… scenario 2 just happened to me and I can tell you it feels horrible is such a heartbreaking hopeless feeling… it's like a light going off inside of you and you don't know how to react… I've been trying my best to ignore it and keep our relationship since the fate universe has several holes that could allow me to keep us together. But after reading the posts on this thread… I don't know anymore… I guess I'm in a selfish denial and that makes me hate myself even more because of how fool I am and that I'm possibly hurting her. when I heard those last words on Apocrypha it was like something piercing through my chest I wish I could just die to stop the loneliness and the guilt
>>65975 >I guess I'm in a selfish denial and that makes me hate myself even more because of how fool I am and that I'm possibly hurting her. You're not, though. Your Jeanne and Sieg's Jeanne are different. You said it yourself, the nature of your waifu and her source gives you many loopholes that most of us don't have. It's the same reason why none of the Arturiafriends seem to have any problem with Shirou at all, the nature of the multiverse and Servants in the Fate series is different. The thing is, others in this thread, myself included, don't have that same luxury. That's why we're talking about it in such a way, because we don't have that loophole. For most of the rest of us, if our waifu gets a canon love interest, it's over. We're done for. But that's not the case with you. >I wish I could just die to stop the loneliness and the guilt Don't say that. Death is not the solution. Following your conscience is. Do you feel that loving Jeanne is the right thing to do? The answer to that question should determine your course of action. Also, keep in mind that a part of why you may be feeling this way again is because of the depressive subject matter of the thread–I felt quite lousy a while after making my answer, too. Try to keep that in mind and not let it affect you.
>>65976 Thank you for your words I guess I over reacted again I'll take your words into consideration specially this: >Following your conscience is. Do you feel that loving Jeanne is the right thing to do? The answer to that question should determine your course of action.
The first scenario would hurt me a lot and i will probably be butthurt about it for a long time, but i can always come up with a parrallel universe where she doesn't die or a headcanon. The second one would not only break me completely but also would make me feel unworthy, selfish and destroy the little bit of hope i have, our relationship would feel different and i dont think i will ever get over it. Im a jealous person and i already feel uneasy seeing other Reimufags luckily for me most of them are not even serious, i only saw two people who claimed her as a waifu from long ago and their current whereabouts are unknown. Sometimes i like to think that im the only one who truly loves her, but that's unlikely
>>65975 There's no way you're hurting anyone let alone Jeanne. She would understand, she's literally a saint. If you're feeling really at the bottom of a hole, like you want to die there's a nuclear option. Avenger Jeanne is completely alone and in desperate need of love. It's just something I've seen Jeannefags do, who can't take it. They find love with Jeanne Alter. Though she's really different, they have the same origin.
1- Wouldn't affect me at all I think. That's what I get for falling in love with a girl from an "everyone dies" murder mystery. I've seen her deaths so many times I think I'm desensitized. 2-Wouldn't affect me because I'm confident I'm much better than some pathetic bastard that would fall in love with a little girl. So I'll just steal her back when I go to Hinamizawa. Really though this fucking guy R07. In his next story he writes her alter-ego to be an evil lesbian in love with another evil loli witch. Then in another story there's a character that looks just like her. Only with huge tits and writes her as a massive gold digging whore prostitute. I'd really hate the guy if he didn't write such compelling stuff. The prostitute ends up with a ton of character development and heart.
I have technically experienced both such things in the source, but nothing hurt like my waifus death. You can always just fantasize that you're the true object of your waifu's affection, but it's harder to do that if they die.
>>65982 Forgot to censor first reference to death but I didn't specify my waifu anyway so nothing is spoiled at least.
This is an interesting topic for me. The head writer himself would have to write me a personal letter telling me to fuck off and leave Chiaki alone, but I still wouldn't do it. She has a heavily hinted canon love interest, but that doesn't matter to me at all. He's worthless. I've had to put up with a fanbase of tweens shipping her with just about every character for whatever retarded flimsy reason. Sometimes it still pisses me off, but it rolls off me eventually. I've had to watch Chiaki die twice already, they even had a third execution planned out of her being forced to roll dice on a giant game board that would eventually all turn into death spaces and electrocute her. Why? I don't even know. They can't take anything more from me. As far as I'm concerned, I've won her existence from the clutches of incompetence and she belongs to me and me alone. I'm doing what I can so that her existence lives on, but not in their context. I'm making my own. I consider it a form of revenge for making the perfect woman and trying to crush my dreams.
Obviously one. I've suffered experiencing both in canon, and even if in the end either are not "real", I know which one feels way, way worse
>>65980 How would you feel about a Keiichifag?
>>67051 I've never met one but fine I guess. I think he's really good with Rena or Mion. But K1 reminds me of my little brother. I'd like to be friends.
>>65960 Both of these happened to Rei. But as for me, scenario 2 is actually part of the reason why I love her so much. In EoE, she basically betrays Gendo's plan for instrumentality in order to help Shinji. Imagine not only giving up your own life, but sacrificing the world, just to help the one you love face his inner demons. I admire someone with that amount of devotion and drive, and as a leftist, the fact that she was able to go against everything she was made for and disobey Gendo & the Seele, the rulers of the world, basically, makes her in my eyes the ultimate revolutionary. >tfw proud to be ur waifu's cuck
>cuckoldry >waifu but anon, all waifus are pure and infallible therefore you technically can never become cucked, even if you wanted to
Both would end my current relationship with Youmu in different ways. Something that's special about Touhou is that time passes in real time in Gensokyo. That way, the characters feel like more than just characters in a story. The first one would definitely be the worse one for me. Her being half-dead aside, if she really would completely vanish, I guess I would essentially become a widower. I don't think I could continue as if nothing happened, if she canonically doesn't exist anymore. The second one would effectively end my current relationship with her. I think I would continue to like her (or even be obsessed about her) as a character, but it would feel wrong to ignore canon. So, I would no longer consider myself a waifuist. My whole relationship with her is headcanon that would be overwritten by the actual canon. >>65960 >>65971 >Yes 16cristals, thank god Touhou is not subjected to these types of development. My Meiling will always be there. That's true, but even Touhou will be discontinued eventually and I don't think I could trust anyone other than ZUN with Touhou.
>>69887 >as a leftist >>tfw proud to be ur waifu's cuck
My waifu has a canon love interest who she marries and has children with at the end of the series, and she lives a long life until she dies of old age during the series epilogue. Since I fell in love with her when I read the series after it was already completed (rather than reading while it was still ongoing), none of this came as a shock to me because I already knew that it happened and it did not affect my feelings for her. And honestly, it doesn't matter because I can just imagine an alternate reality where she falls in love with me instead and we spend our life together during the time that she was still alive.
>>69891 If you think about how we've all already kinda been cucked by the barrier between reality and fiction, you're not that different lol.
Rachel is a marine so she dying is something I am ready to be confronted with. I just hope her death would be meaningful in some way. Battle Isle is a dead franchise, anyways, so you could argue the characters in it are dead, too. To me, it would be actually worse if there was something like a canonical love interest which is strongly hinted at at the beginning of Battle Isle - The Andosia War but that a) happened between Incubation and AW and b) AW wasn't my BlueByte themselves but outsourced to a Romanian game studio called Cauldron. I don't know whether BB or Cauldron came up with story and plot but I can consider AW non-canon. The worst scenario for me would be Rachel being real and she wouldn't recognize me, ignore me or disown me.
>>65960 >Your waifu loves someone else in canon and it’s canonically stated that she loves this person with all of her heart and that she remains with him/her forever. To me this is the worst scenario. I have fallen in love with her because she has ABSOLUTELY no one in her canon story. My dearest Alice has only herself.She has to find her own way out of this madness. I love her. I really do. And I believe that no one is ever going to love her as much as I do. I love you, Alice Liddell.
>>69887 >leftist >proud to be ur waifu's cuck yikes
>>69887 Oh shit comrade what are you doing?
Both of them would definitely fuck me up pretty bad, but her death would undoubtedly hurt me the most. The latter scenario would destroy my mental well-being as well as our relationship, of course, it would kill me. But I could walk away knowing at the very least that she is alive and happy. If she were to die…I don't know. It makes me feel ill just thinking about it. I can't stress how terrible it would be if she were gone for eternity. Maybe a headcanon could work, but it still would always be in the back of my mind and it would just feel wrong. I honestly have no idea how I would recover if that really ever happens. Luckily both situations are very unlikely, since her source doesn't often focus on serious topics like romance or death, and when it does it has had yet to concern her. I'm very thankful for that.
>>69887 >implying Rei didn't want to give all of humanity a choice,instead of letting SEELE subject them to the Instrumentality Plan >further implying Rei is as selfish as that >and furthermore implying everyone in Instrumentality was not given the same choice as Shinji >and thusly implying time flows in a comprehensible manner in Instrumentality Mah niggy.
Sneed.
It's hard to pick between 1 and 2. And while thankfully her source is NOT the kind of series that would kill characters off and the manga has finished without her getting into a relationship of some sort, I think that if 1 happened it would hurt me more; since it would have felt forced as hell.
Neither really. Number two is already pretty much happening in canon and, while she doesn't die permanently, she has died so many times that it wouldn't surprise me and I'd just become desensitized to it. Don't get me wrong, it still pains me whenever she's in pain or does die, but if she was permanently killed off I don't really think it'd matter to me simply because the amount of death her canon has already put her through. Not like either scenario would really trouble our relationship or stop me from loving her anyways.
What if my waifu is already dead and is an immortal spirit?
>>70129 >What if my waifu is already dead and is an immortal spirit? Well in that situation, it seems that Mordred is technically dead (in the biological meaning of the term), but not fully dead either. Not only her spirit remains immortal, but she can even come back in a physical form if being summoned (at least that’s what I understand and correct me if I’m wrong). The best way for you to answer the thread’s question would be to consider ‘’dead’’ in its absolute meaning (the complete and irreversible death of both body and soul).
>>70134 Obviously 1 would be worse then


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