>>23402 In the case of /sthg/, what was one of the biggest sticking points people had that led to users trying to find alternatives (like this place) was because the threads were a constant stream of bad-faith "arguments" & people flinging shit at every user for the sake of it, trying to drown out any discussion on the board that wasn't what they wanted, etc. etc. etc. Avatarfagging & people spamming Sonic yaoi for the sake of annoying users that are bothered by ship pics was a problem too, but it was quite frankly low on the list of issues & it ain't worth much more than a simple "lurk more," rather than some soliloquy about "imageboard culture."

>>23406 >the threads were a constant stream of bad-faith "arguments" & people flinging shit at every user for the sake of it, trying to drown out any discussion on the board that wasn't what they wanted, etc. etc. etc. I'm the person who was questioning about this place. Thank you for outlining pretty precisely the reason I want to (before that, lurk and observe the usual life here as aforementioned, as well already done with me following this place for few years) post here. Though you're referring to that general, the bad events you described were still commonplace at halfchan's /co/ too. I'm sure I'm very far from being the only one who feels this way.

>>23406 >>23408 By the time generals were invented, 4chan had already gone to shit. You're obviously too much of a newfag to be aware of this, but "generals" were actually a punishment mandated by administration to deal with bronies spamming their shit too much, so they were limited to a single thread. Generals aren't supposed to be a good thing. It used to be taken for granted that you only make a thread if you actually have something to say or ask, not just "I didn't see a thread about this general topic, so I made one." That kind of shit is a large part of the reason everyone hated bronies in the first place. The fact that newfags now think generals are something to be proud of, something to be protected, is ridiculous. They were a method of containment for newfag retards that were ruining the rest of the site. One could say this board is the same, but for the people here, they should at least encourage it to be better.

>>23406 I am sure that welcoming namefags, avatarfags, discord and artist cliques, SJWs and people looking to virtue signal and post gay shit, and other kinds of undesirable imageboard scum did not have anything to do with it! It's a complete mystery how places that are more conservative with their culture and tell that kind of people to fuck off have fared better! >but it was quite frankly low on the list of issues There is no ranking of issues people find the most important. You don't speak for everyone. >rather than some soliloquy about "imageboard culture." This long winded discussion about imageboard culture stems from you trying to do mental gymnastics to justify someone acting like a huge fag while on literally any place they would have been laughed out of the board. >>23408 For what it's worth I'm sorry to have to jump at your throat but I really don't want a repeat of what happened to the general despite how much the board needs more posters. Hopefully you can realize how things work as that would be the best outcome.

>>23411 >I am sure that welcoming namefags, avatarfags, discord and artist cliques, SJWs and people looking to virtue signal and post gay shit, and other kinds of undesirable imageboard scum did not have anything to do with it! As someone that saw the place go to shit in real time, it did not. Tbh, I fail to see how you even got the idea that most of those "SJWs, people looking to virtue signal" or "discord cliques" were even an honest thing, rather than trolls looking to get a rise out of anons who got angry at the idea of such people posting in the general for some reason. >This long winded discussion about imageboard culture stems from you trying to do mental gymnastics to justify someone acting like a huge fag No one is justifying avatar posting, calm ya nerves. I just find it a tad absurd that people were flipping out at the idea of someone not knowing how to lurk. This sort of thing happens all the time with communities on chansites such as this & it's normal for it to happen. You tell 'em to lurk, they either do it & stay, or do it, decide this place isn't for them & leave. It's no big deal. >>23410 Well I dunno what to tell ya, because this place wasn't all that active until people decided that /sthg/ had gone to shit. If you feel like a place like /sthg/ was never good that's fine, but the decline of quality in the general is what brought most of the users here last year. Before we went back to being just a few members strong, that is

>>23414 >You tell 'em to lurk, they either do it & stay, or do it, decide this place isn't for them & leave. It's no big deal. It is a big deal, because if you don't tell them to do it, and act like what they're doing is fine, or even worse, if you tell off the people that do say to lurk, then you're encouraging newfag behavior to become the norm. >If you feel like a place like /sthg/ was never good that's fine, but the decline of quality in the general is what brought most of the users here last year. And hopefully those people would be smart enough to become better than they were and not repeat the same mistakes.

>>23414 >As someone that saw the place go to shit in real time, it did not. Tbh, I fail to see how you even got the idea that most of those "SJWs, people looking to virtue signal" or "discord cliques" were even an honest thing, rather than trolls looking to get a rise out of anons who got angry at the idea of such people posting in the general for some reason. Then I'm sorry but you weren't paying attention. And once again, places that tell that kind of people to fuck off don't have these problems. >I just find it a tad absurd that people were flipping out at the idea of someone not knowing how to lurk But it goes much further than that. It's not that the guy posted lewds without knowing it's an SFW board, or fucked up the spoiler tags, or that he directly linked to a MSM site without an archive or something relatively minor that new people may overlook. It feels like the antithesis of an imageboard user, and to make matters worse, when someone does point this out the responses are against the person that does it.

>>23415 >because if you don't tell them to do it Well thank goodness no one was saying you shouldn't tell new posters to lurk first, then! >>23419 >It feels like the antithesis of an imageboard user Ehhh, I don't really think you can put imageboard users into one category that they all fit into, my man. I mean if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but the only thing that's mattered when it comes to posters here is that they don't come to /fast/ with the purpose of starting shit & stay on the subject this board was created on. The problem with certain posters that made people leave for here (regardless of what they were doing) was that they were intentionally trying to annoy users which has been a big sticking point amongst people here. I don't even think we're disagreeing on much here, just whether or not you should tell more to an obvious new poster outside of a simple "lurk more & learn about the place."

>>23411 I gladly accept your apologize, but it seems we're having a failure in communication. It's best to reestablish our own stands here. First and foremost, I have heard of /sthg/, and for the few onces I attempted to discuss there, it only put me to realize I was making a mistake. However, I'm not sure why did you bring this up, especially when I notably detailed I'm from half's /co/. I'm coming here, under the hope there could be more frequent enriching exchange of ideas, arguments made out of genuine faith and honest intuition, and smooth discussions involving the things I enjoy (Archie Sonic, Rotor and more, but not limited to them), to which half's /co/ disappointingly fails more than succeed at this, putting me to assume that's at least half the point of /fast/. For the third time, I'm reiterating that I do want to lurk here, and as a matter of fact, I already did that here for a great while, to the point I did post few times in this board before. I also do possess myself some accumulated familiar usage of navigating through halfchan for plenty of years, arranging knowledge of the most basic of the basics of the adopted terminology and customary culture, unless if you presume going totally brash in your posture and restrictively constructing fallacies and ad-hominens stupidity is somehow a-must, which that's no way to face against others. I come in peace. You may proceed to scratch out "avatarfagging", "namefagging", "discord cliques", "SJWs", and anything else relating to theses, vaguely to the minimum. I beg your pardon, but I'm out of ideas on how could you possibly reach to any of theses conclusions and, if possible, it would be most grateful if you cleared out the connection between theses and my true intentions. Hopefully, this is transparent now.

>>23422 >Well thank goodness no one was saying you shouldn't tell new posters to lurk first, then! Good, then you have no reason to be upset about our posts, since all we're doing is saying to lurk moar. >>23439 It's a shame that 4chan has degenerated so badly that you don't realize this already, but basically, post whatever you want, but be ready to get criticized and mocked if people don't like it. And if people do like it. That's just how it works. It weeds out a lot of the worst people and gets them to stay away. You can avoid this by lurking and seeing what will generally get that response. I'll warn you right now, the way you write, and your highly particular focus on particular topics, is likely to get that response. The fact that you felt the need to make a thread about this shows you don't really get it. If you just post what you want and act "normal" about it, then nobody would care, and you'd have normal discussions.

>>23441 >It's a shame that 4chan has degenerated so badly that you don't realize this already I do. That has been explicit by implying in my first post to this thread. I'm not sure how could you otherwise realize this. >but be ready to get criticized and mocked if people don't like it I would think the correct approach here would be to ignore and hide things you don't like, which I remember pretty clearly being the motto endorsed by Moot, while the higher-up staff are the ones to take action on weeding out the worst (which is visible, as you can note the few ancient threads spread across the catalog that are locked for obvious reasons, or even that previous deleted post warranting hate over gay people). I'm not either sure if that's any benefiting, as one could argue that will feed in for breeding elitism. >the way you write, and your highly particular focus on particular topics, is likely to get that response Once again, I posted here for the few times before, and so far, no grand repercussions. I act "normal", and had normal discussion at both here and half's /co/, so it doesn't seem my way to express is troubling...? Which, why would it be in the first place, long as everyone can understand my talkings? And how come talking about characters you like and dislike would be any bad? >shows you don't really get it I'm feeling a awfully lot of facetious impressions, with you vaguely obligating I should get something already, but I don't know what else is it. /sthg/ was most certainly never good, half's /co/ is no longer any good, halfchan as a whole has degraded badly to the most lessened levels of quality, and everything else related to theses are, yes, bad events that I agree and show the half point of /fast/ existing. All I did here was only to wonder about something that, while very obvious at first, it was just to feel ensured if this place really allows more Sonic things to grace upon about than just the games. What?

>>23422 >I don't really think you can put imageboard users into one category that they all fit into, my man I agree with that, but I was saying that there are categories that imageboard users don't fall in. >I don't even think we're disagreeing on much here I feel there's a bigger underlying disagreement that means we'll eventually come back to this argument but I'm tired of discussing it for now and I think it's close enough. Have a bunch of hogs and a pot plant. >>23439 >and for the few onces I attempted to discuss there, it only put me to realize I was making a mistake kek >However, I'm not sure why did you bring this up, especially when I notably detailed I'm from half's /co/. The conversation continued into discussing the things that affected 4chan and /sthg/ negatively. /sthg/ was the direct precursor of this place so it makes sense to compare what went wrong in order to avoid it here. >I beg your pardon, but I'm out of ideas on how could you possibly reach to any of theses conclusions and, if possible, it would be most grateful if you cleared out the connection between theses and my true intentions. Most of those terms were not mentioned with you specifically in mind but instead because as I wrote above the conversation continued into discussing the things that plagued 4chan and /sthg/, and 4chan is infested with that kind of stuff and got progressively worse the more infested it became. However, the fact that you write in a way that makes it very evident you're not from around and that you said you weren't really interested in sounding like someone from here, plus the homoerotic image in >>23365 and you specifically trying to pander to gay fans (read: virtue signal) are red flags of different calibers and could lead to big issues later. As I mentioned, I'm pretty sure those kinds of posts would warrant you to be laughed out of almost any other board. >>23443 >Once again, I posted here for the few times before, and so far, no grand repercussions Great, keep that up then. Keep an eye on that and you're all set I guess.

>>23443 >I would think the correct approach here would be to ignore and hide things you don't like, which I remember pretty clearly being the motto endorsed by Moot, while the higher-up staff are the ones to take action on weeding out the worst Yeah, you're right. Unlike halfchan, this board is decently moderated & has a BO to weed out what is & isn't allowed here, so reporting & ignoring will take care of any issues on this board like the post you referenced. And nah, you haven't done anything wrong or broken any rules yet, anon. If someone gets a bug up their asses about, say, a Sonadow pic, there's nothing to worry about so long as the pic isn't NSFW or anything like that. Again, this is a place for discussing Sonic the Hedgehog & so long as you aren't being a troll or trying to shut down any discussion you don't like, you're gonna be fine here.

>>23367 >>23380 >>23382 >>23383 >>23393 >>23394 >>23401 >>23402 >>23410 >>23411 >>23415 >>23419 >>23441 >>23444 >all of this needless autistic mental breakdown and shitfest over some guy just wondering about something Christ, get a life, drama-whores.

>>23530 It's not about the guy wondering, it's about the other guy not immediately calling him a faggot.

>>23535 That doesn't make those posts any better, my man

>>23536 >>23530 There's nothing wrong with people respectfully discussing board issues and history and arguing their points in the thread specifically made for that purpose. What's funny is someone coming in more than 2 weeks after discussion had died down to make a pathetic attempt to create drama while adding nothing of value to said discussion and calling everyone else he didn't agree with drama whores.

Hi BO, thanks for reply >>25249 >I'm not sure what you mean I mean to become affiliated boards so we put eachother in the board message, just like our pals at /digi/

>>25252 Thanks for the suggestion, but I think it might be best to wait a few weeks and see where the board goes.

>>25254 Aight, thx

Made a rentry out of the the 2023 pastebin https://rentry.org/sthglinks

Old threads are being bumped for no reason. You may need to start locking some

>>26846 >soyjak.party Designated Backup Who designated that as anything? Feels like it's one faggot pushing it. Never heard of it before and it has no relationship with this place. >>26857 I don't mind so much that they're old as some are good, but overall I feel there's too much trash on the first page right now.

>>26876 Fair enough then. Just want to tell the mods they've been doing a great job

>>26876 >soyjak.party Designated Backup Removed.

>>26876 >Never heard of it before and it has no relationship with this place it's just duofag samefagging and posting his slop

>>27287 Good >>27291 kek

I'm probably going to start being slightly more strict with moderation. It's okay to be lenient and take things slow when there's just a few people and posts, but when you blink and people made hundreds of posts and several threads it's just not possible (and probably not as necessary) to be as nuanced. I also think something more aggressive should be done about the threads being created/revived, but I generally don't like being a rulecuck and right now it's probably best to wait it out a bit. Also since you faggots post a lot I'm rising the bump limit to 750, which I think is how it was on /vg/. I'm not sure what the global limits are and whether it's going to take effect, but I think it should go up to at least 700 posts.

>>27517 >threads being revived My suggestion is to archive every thread that was created before 4chan went offline so we can have a fresh start, with the exception of that DC story time thread.

Hello, I've also come in peace as somewhat of a refugee of halfchan. Is there something I should at least know of what to do so far so I don't wind up stinking up the place? I just want to discuss stuff and have a good time while making silly jokes so far. Also I agree to archive the old threads before 4chan imploded if you guys want a fresh new start.

Some of those old threads have some cool stuff in them. Maybe we should click that "Archive" button on them

>>27736 I'm not going to wipe the whole board just because you niggers got here, what the fuck. >>27742 >Is there something I should at least know of what to do so far so I don't wind up stinking up the place? I just want to discuss stuff and have a good time while making silly jokes so far. This should cover most of it: https://8chan.moe/fast/rules.html 4channers seem to struggle the most with rule 3. I probably should add some guidelines about creating new threads there too.

>>27852 Can you show me some examples of posts that you think struggle with rule 3? I don't see any

>>27876 Yes, gladly. Here are some, these are all from the same poster. >>27666 >>27672 >>27630 >>27622 >>27813 >>27814 >>27711 >>27454 >>27474 If this kind of shit is almost exclusively what you post, you're doing it wrong. There are other things too but some of them require more nuance. Some of posts from fags that are very clearly obsessed or horny about their character crush and create posts just to show that I would struggle to call high quality, but it's not at a point where I'm gonna go out of my way to do something about it yet.

>>27983 Do what? Post examples of bad posters?

>>27979 Hmm alright. I wouldn't call the posts you linked good but I didn't realize those were all the same poster. It's clear now that you've pointed this out but it's not something I would paid attention to >very clearly obsessed or horny about their character crush Sorry we can't help it. At least we have character-specific threads though