>>23334 Much appreciated for replying, hoho! Though I'm aware the discussion is more often gravitated to the games and IDW for obvious reasons, I'm still rather relieved to hear there can indeed be some Archie Sonic discussion here, long as I do my best to drive it well. But most importantly, I'm especially happy at hearing just exactly what I hoped to hear, which is there can be cordial disagreements with me and to others (especially when they are healthy for your capable enlightenment, just as much as agreeing), albeit nothing alike to total unneeded dismay ranked up by awful fanboys and trolls will ever happen here. Thank you. The problem I had with 4chan, the /co/ counterpart precisely, is just how cyclical and repeating were the schemes of Archie Sonic conversation with the majorly, in a way it felt frustratingly tiring to see the same reactions and usual formulaic responses, all purely done for flaming the comic, whilst never elaborating down into compelling strong points. Theses people kept affirming they hate one or other character or story a lot, albeit never went beyond theses claims. As I felt for the most part, no one there really seemed to like or enjoy the comic, let alone held genuine formed opinions that sparkle refreshment to the debate and expressed their own perspectives. Eventually, I realized it's no use to lean only for 4/co/'s Sonic threads to discuss about things I like and dislike. I had a lot a fun there for the rare times most did collaborate to the discussion, but barring that, yeah, I just can't anymore. >Nobody is going to delete a genuine attempt at discussion. That's rather intriguing of you to say so, as believe it or not, for the plenty of times I did actual attempts at inciting discussion, a janitor there would keep censoring my posts and banning me. >>23335 >you do not sound like an imageboard user at all to the point that in any other board this post would stick out so much it may as well be considered shitposting, kek. That sounds blasphemy, but well, that might not be far from being reality. Nevertheless, it depends on what do you mean. I do have me some history of lurking and browsing in 4chan, as well being familiar of the most basic expected vocabulary of imageboards, like "sage" and "newfag", but in regards of speaking like one or another, I definitely don't talk as such you say. Simple enough, I just don't see any reason to adapt myself into buzzwords and the usual passive-aggressiveness of one, much less relying instantly on namecalling. That's calling for fightings. In any case, I just express in the way I'm most comfortable with. >Discussion regarding Archie pops up every once in a while so feel free to read the old threads or take part the next time it's brought up or bring it or other topics up yourself. I'm mindful of how slow is this board, but this is certainly good advice. Much obliged. Now, as I'm still in the meta thread, I might as well pop up another reassuring question: may I create a Rotor thread here? I would think that's not any rule-breaking, long as it doesn't post porn, check?

>>23353 If you had spent any time at all around these parts you'd know that there's a huge amount of contempt for halfchanners because their shit's all retarded like you have discovered and experienced, and people that mention that go there or even hint that they do due to the words they use get bullied, so although it's not a written rule you will sooner or later get piled up on if you keep that up. >may I create a Rotor thread here? As long as you put enough effort into it then it should be fine. We have less deserving threads already, although keep in mind that considering Rotor is not very popular and how every media he starred in has been discontinued there may not be a lot of people to discuss that.

>>23354 Yes, I'm gay, and so is you, Rotor. Joking aside, I'm fully aware of the worldwide contempt of many who use 8chan and its variations over the, as you would like to refer to them, halfchanners, and clearly is it not unfounded at all. With that in mind, most definitely, I won't under any circumstances ever mention I do go there sometimes or that I come from it. Despite it being unwritten rule, and that I could care less whatever social platform one comes from, I still endorse myself to abide for to never ever mentioning halfchan (unless otherwise asked by others, I suppose?). So, pardon me if I tripped over this aspect, please. Hopefully, I'm doing this right now. >it should be fine. Thanks much! And yes, I'm very mindful that Rotor, as well about 95% of Archie cast, are sadly not so popular to the mass, worse with the Archie comic being no more, which is awful. Still, I insist to make a thread dedicated to him (and possibly, extend the thread to be simply a general male mobian appreciation for gay fans and similar), with a good nuanced OP. Before taking steps in though, I'm still brainstorming in picking a subject or so that will be generously inviting for others, as well encouraging for a flexible debate and more discussion (but not limited to, course).

>>23365 >and possibly, extend the thread to be simply a general male mobian appreciation for gay fans and similar >wanting to bring literal cancer here Why don't you just go back to wherever you came from?

>>23367 Chill out.

>>23367 Sounds more interesting than whatever you have to offer, honestly.

>>23378 >gay "appreciation" threads from the most autistic (in a bad way) newfag ever seen, openly saying he will not try to just blend in No. Fuck you. Stop for a second and think about what you are going to unleash. Anyone can come here, but if they don't have the decency to lurk before posting, if they have to ask what is "allowed" instead of just watching before they post, then they're not the type we would want here. It isn't about what they're posting, it's about attitude. This goes for any board. I can't make this faggot leave, and maybe I wouldn't if I could, but I'd certainly encourage him to either rethink his attitude or get out.

>>23380 Blend in with who? Watch what? All three people who come here? There's threads that havent been posted in since 2015 still up. I dont give a shit about the content or whether it passes your autistic metric of board culture/quality/whatever you're bitching about it, if its something that people are enthusiastic about then it should be posted. The guy's attitude about asking if its okay to post something is bad and doesn't indicate interest in board quality to you? You sound more like an autistic halfchan refugee than he does and need to get out with your retarded mindset of preferring a dead board to one that talks about something you're not interested in

>>23380 >All three people who come here? Quality over quantity. Also, this guy clearly has no interest in understanding the wider sitewide / oldfag diaspora culture. I haven't been on halfchan in six and a half years, but from the looks of things, he can't even lurk enough to understand them. I was there on pre-2010 /co/, and I thought it was great, how nice and accepting they were. Well look where that got them. They were the spawning point for Bronies and the beachhead for the tumblr invasion of 2011 that eventually resulted in all of 4chan becoming an SJW shithole and making us all leave in the first place. /co/ fucked up, and it had drastic effects. /a/ had it right all along. The whole site should have been much more hostile to everybody. Not like they can actually keep people out. The people who can actually deal with the hostility are the good ones. >if its something that people are enthusiastic about then it should be posted. Agreed. As I said, it isn't about the content, it's about the attitude. >The guy's attitude about asking if its okay to post something is bad and doesn't indicate interest in board quality to you? It indicates an unwillingness to lurk moar. >You sound more like an autistic halfchan refugee Anyone here who isn't a halfchan refugee, specifically from when moot banned Gamergate, is a newfag and needs to get out. And don't try to pretend you're one of the three slavs that posted on the original 8chan before then, either. >one that talks about something you're not interested in Again, I never said anything about the content, but about the attitude. That said, if you post gay shit, be ready to be relentlessly cyberbullied. In fact, be ready for that no matter what you post.

>>23381 >Blend in with who? Watch what? All three people who come here? How about with imageboard culture in general? Do you really look at his posts and say "yeah this fits perfectly here or in any board", even when he admitted that they didn't himself? >if its something that people are enthusiastic about then it should be posted That's not how it works, every board has rules regarding what's okay or not to post. Go and make a console wars thread or a thread with barely any content to discuss on /v/. >The guy's attitude about asking if its okay to post something is bad and doesn't indicate interest in board quality to you? What interest in board quality does someone that doesn't lurk to learn the ropes, that asks dumb questions for almost 2 weeks, and that wants to bring his vices from halfchan to the new place have? >You sound more like an autistic halfchan refugee than he does Yeah, how dare he tell someone to lurk more! >need to get out with your retarded mindset of preferring a dead board to one that talks about something you're not interested in If you want that kind of content and also speed, go back to cuckchan, where you get gay shit posted everywhere at breakneck speed. I used to think like you but when things actually got fast in 4/sthg/ at the cost of tanking the quality and inviting all kinds of undesirable people it made me realize that it was the wrong stance to have.

>>23382 >>23383 >>23387 As someone who was posting on /fast/ back in 2017 before people even started coming here, I am very interested to know what you think is this board's "culture," when the only general rules are keep shit SFW, not be a shitposting turd (which is what you're being rn) & talk about Sonic.

>>23388 I don't think you know what shitposting is. I also don't think you understand that this goes well beyond this board. This board is part of a wider site, and this site is part of a larger history and, yes, culture. All three posts you're replying to laid out many reasons why that's important, though you responded to none. We have no way of knowing if someone is new, and that's how it should be. However, if someone is too stupid to lurk enough to fit in, if they're too obnoxious to not broadcast what faggots they are, then they're not the type of people that should be here in the first place. It's very easy to lurk enough to make it look like you've been here for years. If someone won't, then fuck them. They have the whole rest of the internet to enjoy. Their kind has chased us here across many different sites for many years.

>>23388 >when the only general rules are keep shit SFW, not be a shitposting turd & talk about Sonic. That's true, but it's still an imageboard and that implies rules as well. It has even been written in the actual board rules for years: >3 : Please employ common imageboard courtesy. Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts, do not attach a name or a tripcode to your posts unless strictly necessary, strive to provide high quality images and comments, etc.. It doesn't codify the whole rulebook of being in an imageboard but it shouldn't have to either, this should all go without saying and should all be evident for someone that's been lurking imageboards for years such as yourself.

>>23393 >>23394 >this site is part of a larger history I hate to be "that guy," but this site's history isn't exactly anything special. This is a place created from a place that was created because people were leaving 4chan because the site wasn't to their liking anymore. And considering one of the posts I replied to was deleted because it had nothing to do with "board culture" or whatever other bullshit & was going on about executing people, I don't think it had much to do with "laying reasons why site culture is important." I don't approve of avatarfagging, but beyond that this entire argument just reeks of people getting a stick up their asses over nothing that's actually important

>>23399 >I hate to be "that guy," but this site's history isn't exactly anything special. This is a place created from a place that was created because people were leaving 4chan because the site wasn't to their liking anymore. Exactly. So don't invite more people to make us have to leave again. >this entire argument just reeks of people getting a stick up their asses over nothing that's actually important What's important is that if someone can't be polite enough to learn the ways of a place, if they can't be bothered to do as the romans do, then we shouldn't be polite to them either. I don't support banning or anything like that, but I certainly support encouraging people to not be retarded.

>>23399 I'm not sure what's more funny, that you don't think imageboard culture in an imageboard is important or that despite acknowledging that people left halfchan because they weren't happy you think it's a good idea to repeat the same mistakes that turned that site to shit and made people leave in the first place. None of this culture we're quoting was born with this site if you didn't yet realize, it all comes from 4chan itself since times immemorial (God damn, isn't lurk moar one of the Rules of the Internet even?) so it's not like people from this site specifically made up this culture and are forcing it upon this board if that's what you're implying, it's roughly the same culture from 4chan before the site went to shit. This has seldom been a problem here because usually people that are smart enough to realize what's wrong with halfchan and look for alternatives understand what to do and what not to do and what to expect in an imageboard, but if things are too far off the mark like in this case I think it's necessary to raise the voice, as it has happened in the past as well by the way (e.g. >>16825). I still don't understand why you think someone that writes shit like he has will do the board good.

>>23402 In the case of /sthg/, what was one of the biggest sticking points people had that led to users trying to find alternatives (like this place) was because the threads were a constant stream of bad-faith "arguments" & people flinging shit at every user for the sake of it, trying to drown out any discussion on the board that wasn't what they wanted, etc. etc. etc. Avatarfagging & people spamming Sonic yaoi for the sake of annoying users that are bothered by ship pics was a problem too, but it was quite frankly low on the list of issues & it ain't worth much more than a simple "lurk more," rather than some soliloquy about "imageboard culture."

>>23406 >the threads were a constant stream of bad-faith "arguments" & people flinging shit at every user for the sake of it, trying to drown out any discussion on the board that wasn't what they wanted, etc. etc. etc. I'm the person who was questioning about this place. Thank you for outlining pretty precisely the reason I want to (before that, lurk and observe the usual life here as aforementioned, as well already done with me following this place for few years) post here. Though you're referring to that general, the bad events you described were still commonplace at halfchan's /co/ too. I'm sure I'm very far from being the only one who feels this way.

>>23406 >>23408 By the time generals were invented, 4chan had already gone to shit. You're obviously too much of a newfag to be aware of this, but "generals" were actually a punishment mandated by administration to deal with bronies spamming their shit too much, so they were limited to a single thread. Generals aren't supposed to be a good thing. It used to be taken for granted that you only make a thread if you actually have something to say or ask, not just "I didn't see a thread about this general topic, so I made one." That kind of shit is a large part of the reason everyone hated bronies in the first place. The fact that newfags now think generals are something to be proud of, something to be protected, is ridiculous. They were a method of containment for newfag retards that were ruining the rest of the site. One could say this board is the same, but for the people here, they should at least encourage it to be better.

>>23406 I am sure that welcoming namefags, avatarfags, discord and artist cliques, SJWs and people looking to virtue signal and post gay shit, and other kinds of undesirable imageboard scum did not have anything to do with it! It's a complete mystery how places that are more conservative with their culture and tell that kind of people to fuck off have fared better! >but it was quite frankly low on the list of issues There is no ranking of issues people find the most important. You don't speak for everyone. >rather than some soliloquy about "imageboard culture." This long winded discussion about imageboard culture stems from you trying to do mental gymnastics to justify someone acting like a huge fag while on literally any place they would have been laughed out of the board. >>23408 For what it's worth I'm sorry to have to jump at your throat but I really don't want a repeat of what happened to the general despite how much the board needs more posters. Hopefully you can realize how things work as that would be the best outcome.

>>23411 >I am sure that welcoming namefags, avatarfags, discord and artist cliques, SJWs and people looking to virtue signal and post gay shit, and other kinds of undesirable imageboard scum did not have anything to do with it! As someone that saw the place go to shit in real time, it did not. Tbh, I fail to see how you even got the idea that most of those "SJWs, people looking to virtue signal" or "discord cliques" were even an honest thing, rather than trolls looking to get a rise out of anons who got angry at the idea of such people posting in the general for some reason. >This long winded discussion about imageboard culture stems from you trying to do mental gymnastics to justify someone acting like a huge fag No one is justifying avatar posting, calm ya nerves. I just find it a tad absurd that people were flipping out at the idea of someone not knowing how to lurk. This sort of thing happens all the time with communities on chansites such as this & it's normal for it to happen. You tell 'em to lurk, they either do it & stay, or do it, decide this place isn't for them & leave. It's no big deal. >>23410 Well I dunno what to tell ya, because this place wasn't all that active until people decided that /sthg/ had gone to shit. If you feel like a place like /sthg/ was never good that's fine, but the decline of quality in the general is what brought most of the users here last year. Before we went back to being just a few members strong, that is

>>23414 >You tell 'em to lurk, they either do it & stay, or do it, decide this place isn't for them & leave. It's no big deal. It is a big deal, because if you don't tell them to do it, and act like what they're doing is fine, or even worse, if you tell off the people that do say to lurk, then you're encouraging newfag behavior to become the norm. >If you feel like a place like /sthg/ was never good that's fine, but the decline of quality in the general is what brought most of the users here last year. And hopefully those people would be smart enough to become better than they were and not repeat the same mistakes.

>>23414 >As someone that saw the place go to shit in real time, it did not. Tbh, I fail to see how you even got the idea that most of those "SJWs, people looking to virtue signal" or "discord cliques" were even an honest thing, rather than trolls looking to get a rise out of anons who got angry at the idea of such people posting in the general for some reason. Then I'm sorry but you weren't paying attention. And once again, places that tell that kind of people to fuck off don't have these problems. >I just find it a tad absurd that people were flipping out at the idea of someone not knowing how to lurk But it goes much further than that. It's not that the guy posted lewds without knowing it's an SFW board, or fucked up the spoiler tags, or that he directly linked to a MSM site without an archive or something relatively minor that new people may overlook. It feels like the antithesis of an imageboard user, and to make matters worse, when someone does point this out the responses are against the person that does it.

>>23415 >because if you don't tell them to do it Well thank goodness no one was saying you shouldn't tell new posters to lurk first, then! >>23419 >It feels like the antithesis of an imageboard user Ehhh, I don't really think you can put imageboard users into one category that they all fit into, my man. I mean if I'm wrong I'm wrong, but the only thing that's mattered when it comes to posters here is that they don't come to /fast/ with the purpose of starting shit & stay on the subject this board was created on. The problem with certain posters that made people leave for here (regardless of what they were doing) was that they were intentionally trying to annoy users which has been a big sticking point amongst people here. I don't even think we're disagreeing on much here, just whether or not you should tell more to an obvious new poster outside of a simple "lurk more & learn about the place."

>>23411 I gladly accept your apologize, but it seems we're having a failure in communication. It's best to reestablish our own stands here. First and foremost, I have heard of /sthg/, and for the few onces I attempted to discuss there, it only put me to realize I was making a mistake. However, I'm not sure why did you bring this up, especially when I notably detailed I'm from half's /co/. I'm coming here, under the hope there could be more frequent enriching exchange of ideas, arguments made out of genuine faith and honest intuition, and smooth discussions involving the things I enjoy (Archie Sonic, Rotor and more, but not limited to them), to which half's /co/ disappointingly fails more than succeed at this, putting me to assume that's at least half the point of /fast/. For the third time, I'm reiterating that I do want to lurk here, and as a matter of fact, I already did that here for a great while, to the point I did post few times in this board before. I also do possess myself some accumulated familiar usage of navigating through halfchan for plenty of years, arranging knowledge of the most basic of the basics of the adopted terminology and customary culture, unless if you presume going totally brash in your posture and restrictively constructing fallacies and ad-hominens stupidity is somehow a-must, which that's no way to face against others. I come in peace. You may proceed to scratch out "avatarfagging", "namefagging", "discord cliques", "SJWs", and anything else relating to theses, vaguely to the minimum. I beg your pardon, but I'm out of ideas on how could you possibly reach to any of theses conclusions and, if possible, it would be most grateful if you cleared out the connection between theses and my true intentions. Hopefully, this is transparent now.

>>23422 >Well thank goodness no one was saying you shouldn't tell new posters to lurk first, then! Good, then you have no reason to be upset about our posts, since all we're doing is saying to lurk moar. >>23439 It's a shame that 4chan has degenerated so badly that you don't realize this already, but basically, post whatever you want, but be ready to get criticized and mocked if people don't like it. And if people do like it. That's just how it works. It weeds out a lot of the worst people and gets them to stay away. You can avoid this by lurking and seeing what will generally get that response. I'll warn you right now, the way you write, and your highly particular focus on particular topics, is likely to get that response. The fact that you felt the need to make a thread about this shows you don't really get it. If you just post what you want and act "normal" about it, then nobody would care, and you'd have normal discussions.

>>23441 >It's a shame that 4chan has degenerated so badly that you don't realize this already I do. That has been explicit by implying in my first post to this thread. I'm not sure how could you otherwise realize this. >but be ready to get criticized and mocked if people don't like it I would think the correct approach here would be to ignore and hide things you don't like, which I remember pretty clearly being the motto endorsed by Moot, while the higher-up staff are the ones to take action on weeding out the worst (which is visible, as you can note the few ancient threads spread across the catalog that are locked for obvious reasons, or even that previous deleted post warranting hate over gay people). I'm not either sure if that's any benefiting, as one could argue that will feed in for breeding elitism. >the way you write, and your highly particular focus on particular topics, is likely to get that response Once again, I posted here for the few times before, and so far, no grand repercussions. I act "normal", and had normal discussion at both here and half's /co/, so it doesn't seem my way to express is troubling...? Which, why would it be in the first place, long as everyone can understand my talkings? And how come talking about characters you like and dislike would be any bad? >shows you don't really get it I'm feeling a awfully lot of facetious impressions, with you vaguely obligating I should get something already, but I don't know what else is it. /sthg/ was most certainly never good, half's /co/ is no longer any good, halfchan as a whole has degraded badly to the most lessened levels of quality, and everything else related to theses are, yes, bad events that I agree and show the half point of /fast/ existing. All I did here was only to wonder about something that, while very obvious at first, it was just to feel ensured if this place really allows more Sonic things to grace upon about than just the games. What?

>>23422 >I don't really think you can put imageboard users into one category that they all fit into, my man I agree with that, but I was saying that there are categories that imageboard users don't fall in. >I don't even think we're disagreeing on much here I feel there's a bigger underlying disagreement that means we'll eventually come back to this argument but I'm tired of discussing it for now and I think it's close enough. Have a bunch of hogs and a pot plant. >>23439 >and for the few onces I attempted to discuss there, it only put me to realize I was making a mistake kek >However, I'm not sure why did you bring this up, especially when I notably detailed I'm from half's /co/. The conversation continued into discussing the things that affected 4chan and /sthg/ negatively. /sthg/ was the direct precursor of this place so it makes sense to compare what went wrong in order to avoid it here. >I beg your pardon, but I'm out of ideas on how could you possibly reach to any of theses conclusions and, if possible, it would be most grateful if you cleared out the connection between theses and my true intentions. Most of those terms were not mentioned with you specifically in mind but instead because as I wrote above the conversation continued into discussing the things that plagued 4chan and /sthg/, and 4chan is infested with that kind of stuff and got progressively worse the more infested it became. However, the fact that you write in a way that makes it very evident you're not from around and that you said you weren't really interested in sounding like someone from here, plus the homoerotic image in >>23365 and you specifically trying to pander to gay fans (read: virtue signal) are red flags of different calibers and could lead to big issues later. As I mentioned, I'm pretty sure those kinds of posts would warrant you to be laughed out of almost any other board. >>23443 >Once again, I posted here for the few times before, and so far, no grand repercussions Great, keep that up then. Keep an eye on that and you're all set I guess.

>>23443 >I would think the correct approach here would be to ignore and hide things you don't like, which I remember pretty clearly being the motto endorsed by Moot, while the higher-up staff are the ones to take action on weeding out the worst Yeah, you're right. Unlike halfchan, this board is decently moderated & has a BO to weed out what is & isn't allowed here, so reporting & ignoring will take care of any issues on this board like the post you referenced. And nah, you haven't done anything wrong or broken any rules yet, anon. If someone gets a bug up their asses about, say, a Sonadow pic, there's nothing to worry about so long as the pic isn't NSFW or anything like that. Again, this is a place for discussing Sonic the Hedgehog & so long as you aren't being a troll or trying to shut down any discussion you don't like, you're gonna be fine here.

>>23367 >>23380 >>23382 >>23383 >>23393 >>23394 >>23401 >>23402 >>23410 >>23411 >>23415 >>23419 >>23441 >>23444 >all of this needless autistic mental breakdown and shitfest over some guy just wondering about something Christ, get a life, drama-whores.

>>23530 It's not about the guy wondering, it's about the other guy not immediately calling him a faggot.

>>23535 That doesn't make those posts any better, my man

>>23536 >>23530 There's nothing wrong with people respectfully discussing board issues and history and arguing their points in the thread specifically made for that purpose. What's funny is someone coming in more than 2 weeks after discussion had died down to make a pathetic attempt to create drama while adding nothing of value to said discussion and calling everyone else he didn't agree with drama whores.

Hi BO, thanks for reply >>25249 >I'm not sure what you mean I mean to become affiliated boards so we put eachother in the board message, just like our pals at /digi/

>>25252 Thanks for the suggestion, but I think it might be best to wait a few weeks and see where the board goes.

>>25254 Aight, thx