>>3479 Thank you for sharing this investigation, I found it helpful. Will check out the books you posted in the library. >military facility I will look into this, I believe you may have encountered Katak. >>3482 >hyperstition, one god universe, etc Just want to second what you said here, it aligns with my knowledge. >numogram vs kabbala as astral map representing the same thing Yes, with a big "but" on the end. The numogram describes the structure of time while the Kabbala resides within the time circuit. That is by using the Warp and Plex from the numogram, you can change what the tree of life "has always been and always will be". Not very useful from a magical perspective because you cannot know that your work succeeded because if it did then it had always been such and nothing was changed - magic is necessarily about change. That said, it does seem to somehow open up new possibilities for magic. I don't understand how but it clearly worked for both of us. >>3483 >Automatic behavior of Lemurians Makes perfect sense, because voluntary action requires will in time. I will investigate the relationship of Lemurs and Drow. >incarnation as Lemur necessary for extended contact Explains why my body changed when entering Deadlines. >promoted for serving in the war Checks with what I know regarding Lemurian Time War. Since Lemurs subverting the control system via hyperstition, any interaction with them breaks AOE safety mechanisms, especially if shared publicly with others. >Madagascar as missing piece Curious. Please keep us updated if you are able to maintain connection with this imageboard from your Earth

>>3501 >Katak Elaborate please, what is this? Do you have any link to a website where I can read more? >Please keep us updated if you are able to maintain connection with this imageboard from your Earth The use of Madagascar is pretty simple, if you are familiar with internal transformation of the two polar energies of the human body, and how these are represented in the world as the continents have "female" and "male" functions, in a very direct sense. I can easily visualize the function because I've worked with these things since over 10 years by now, part of this comes from observing in detail how said energy systems function in certain kinds of porn scenes. Another loophole to use, they think they are degenerating society, but they are also making available 1000s of examples of how the intimate parts of humans function, which can be studied if you just read their energy process and find the right recordings. Having to do this in first person view with personal meetings would require a Babylonian size religion, seriously. The world is a temple and the cities are sigils, it's up to us to use them. Whether I can communicate isn't a matter of Internet access once I move on, but the fact that I will have to, no matter how much I prepare, enter on the other side of the "shield of ignorance", so I won't remember this website in my new body. Even if we meet over there, I won't recall it in specific. My magic practice will also be way different, in terms of once again being practical rather than one of using servitors, sigils, visualizations, projections, I'll have direct access to ritual witchcraft and won't be doing online magic. So that's why it ends here when I leave.

>>3505 >Katak I am still studying this Lemur but here's the basics (and an AI generated illustration). Katak is associated with the 5::4 current and is the most militaristic of the Lemurs. 5::4 is the current that has a gate to the Warp and Katak is responsible for protecting it. So it sounds like Katak because both of the militaristic aspects of the contact plus the warning "you shouldn't be here" which indicates you were near the gate. However I have not contacted Katak so I cannot confirm these reports. I am guessing based on your report you first were at a region near the gate (near 15) then after you mentioned female Lemurs they took you to the Katak barracks (near 1). Also regarding the loin cloth, sandals, and cape. Katak is usually associated with the desert. There is an ancient tribe of warriors between Afghanistan and Pakistan called the Khattak. They were fierce warriors who fought for the British. These tribes likely dressed the way you describe in ancient times as both the Romans and the Pashtun were influenced by Greek military culture. I will do some additional research and confirm/reject the above speculations.

>>3526 This makes sense, I easily connect with ethereal planes, but not with the heavier ones.

Today's update on the lemurian situation Nothing in particular has happened, but we are still practicing, my lady is also on and off possessing a family member irl. We went space travelling on routes I've been to before, I wanted to show them stuff at the galactic federation, such as mineral mining, ship construction and science educations which are available. It seems there isn't any organized communication between the lemurs and the federation, although both are mostly furries in the astral-physical plane (the federation over all is 60% reptilians, but they stay mostly on the astral, those who'd visit us on Earth have fur, not scales). There was no problem to bring both ladies with me when I was in my lemur incarnation, because I have a Field Marshall rank in the federation, and a "sustainable account" at the bank, which transfers across incarnations (follows your soul) so by referring to my federation bank account they could verify my grade, which by its authority would make it possible for me to bring outsiders, they got temporary passports and it was all fine. It feels odd that although they have no conflict at all, they do not interact either. Maybe they just have nothing to talk about. I still don't feel like I have a grasp on lemur technology, if it even exists. It should exist, but when thinking about it, I feel nothing. It's strange.

I apologize for not posting any updates. My mental state has been changing rapidly since the Lemur contact. In the present, there has not been an substantial material changes in my daily life and I am continuing my usual habits despite these changes. At random points throughout the day my vision will be slightly obscured by wavy lines passing through the world. These don't bother me as it's not my first time encountering visual effects from entities I've worked with. However it is much more strange as the patterns are surreal and abstract, and have a distinctly otherworldly feel I never got from more usual goetic entities. These patterns don't give any feeling of unease or danger, just abstract strangeness. The biggest changes (if they are such) are in my past. Or rather nothing changed but I suddenly remembered many strange events that are now connected to my present. Most interestingly, I remember several times where I used Time Sorcery as a child. Firstly around age 9 I remember using Time Sorcery to alter the course of several traumatic events, which never happened as a result. This Time Sorcery was done within the Christian system I was embedded in at the time. After that initial memory I remember many other events between then and my current present of using Time Sorcery to grant myself wealth, magical powers, love, creative talent, mathematical ability, and much more. I do not know if these works were successful, whether they are a result of my recent contact, or something else. However my life seems to be completely intertwined with Time Sorcery in a way that I had forgotten before this contact and now are readily apparent. Note that I am living with the love, still possess the wealth, and the talents as well, so these are all measurable; what I cannot speak to is the cause. I am planning additional contacts but am taking this slowly. My primary concern is verifiabilty; since cause and effect are completely twisted from the consensus reality, I am concerned about how to maintain the mapping from my (new) current condition and the social one. I am trying to find ways to conduct verifiable experiments that map properly between systems. More updates will come.

>>3605 >Federation x Lemur contact It's interesting you were able to get them temporary passports. Did the Federation officials recognized them as Lemurs or thought they were some other entity that was shape-shifting? I don't have Federation contact or credentials so any insight you can gain from that direction would be appreciated. >Lemurian technology as a blank I'll investigate this. Now that you mentioned it, I don't remember any of the Lemurs consistently using technology. For instance in Deadlines I noticed a mix of ancient, medieval, modern, and future tech mixed without any sense. Perhaps because of how they perceive time, they don't use tech in the way other races do. I'll investigate this area as it seems productive.

>>3908 >Did the Federation officials recognized them as Lemurs or thought they were some other entity that was shape-shifting? I don't have Federation contact or credentials so any insight you can gain from that direction would be appreciated. The passports were simply handed out at the university reception desk, stamped on site in paper copies. I asked to see documentation of this particular registration via my assistant. The record at the archive says: [Location Redacted] [Star Date Redacted] Issued two temp. passp. Race: Lemurian, origin [coordinates nonsensical to me] Verified: [My Alias] F.Marsh R. via Fed. Res. That's all I could get. They don't seem to have taken note of there being anything special to it.

>>3914 Fascinating. That indicates the Lemurian outbreak is far more extensive than I thought. In retrospect, that should be expected since the breakout is across all dimensions and frequencies. So it should be possible to find Lemurs and Lemurian references across a wide variety of ecologies. This also means that Lemurian concepts have already penetrated deeper into social systems than the AOEs control loops. That is to say all cycles should have hidden spirals.

I've been considering my encounter with Lemurs carefully and have yet to decide on an appropriate course of action. However I have made a realization. Usually magical practice involves exercise of human will to intentionally create some observable change in the world. Now there's a change happening in both occult practice, that is also reflected in the technocapital process, which is non human wills dominating human ones. Most of what humans today encounter is algorithmically selected content, and now even algorithmically generated (ai content). As without, so within; there is a resulting loss of human control for the occult just as there is for the known. I predict that there will be an increase in out of control magical practices and experiences. Looking backwards, there's certain branches of chaos magic that preview this. The synthesis of multiple systems has always been difficult to do in a controlled fashion, and certain sigils have always been used carelessly with abandon. I expect these tendencies to accelerate.

I've realized the answer to the problem of verifiability in Time Sorcery, which is to discover of an artifact that violates causality. An artifact from the past who's present existence comes from its future creation. Bitcoin, the numogram, and Lemurs all qualify. However for my personal practice, I must identify a memory of an impossible object that is later proven to have its cause in the future. I'm preparing the next contact with the assistance of the Time Sorcery text. Any suggestions are welcome.

OK, an update. Im really struggling with Time Sorcery because my mind constantly wants to return to the theatre of time and space. That's the way Ive found to try to grasp it; remember that my mind is constructing a TimeSpace theatre, so any time I believe I am "exiting" the theatre Im not, because to exit is to travel in time and space. Currently I am trying to discover an already existing artifact that will grant me immense wealth, power, and health. To confirm the artifact is of Lemurian origin, it must have no past and no future, meaning that I will have no memory of this artifact once it has exited my life. However it will still have a shadow granting me aforesaid wealth, power, and health. I am hopeful that I will encounter it in the future, because even though I necessarily must forget after the encounter, it will be a moment when just for a bit I have proof of what is beyond the veil. That all said, I am still mostly unsatisfied with my progress. Ive decided to try another Lemurian encounter and request assistance. It seems unlikely to succeed. Also a noticeable side effect I am having is I am struggling to identify my current position in space and time. Im using meditative techniques to keep me tethered as I have TimeSpace obligations to attend to as a human.

>>4110 The key is to move out of the causal chain. Consider reality as the events of a book. Such an artifact would simply be anything existing outside of the book. Therefore existing unbound by the causality of the target narrative.

I keep hearing this phrase in my mind. "STEP OUTSIDE THE CAUSAL CHAIN" But I don't know how. If I stepped outside something, that means I'm moving in spacetime. Thus I'm trapped again in causality, just with an additional timeline in the multiverse. No answers.

>>4213 Ah of course you already wrote the answer. Thank you.

>>4260 I think they are trying to tell you that you need to move to 5D. 3D is what we see around us, the length, width and height of objects. 4D adds time as the 4th dimension. 5D adds "time as a 3-dimensional structure". You no longer see a chronological time progression like a road moving in one direction. Instead you see roads intersecting like a network, some lead to nothing, some lead to cities, some lead to squares with many roads joining. At this plane you can choose different timelines (roads) to the same place, or you can move to a different place entirely. Time is locally chronological as you move between intersections only. During this they are 1-dimensional, but once you reach the intersection they are now 2-dimensional. The entire city of time is 3-dimensional with many higher or lower planes, like a city with tunnels under and elevated roads between buildings higher up.

>>3476 > Deadlines, a bar that according to the Time Sorcery book is a way station between the homeland of the Lemurs, under the ocean, and the Human world. I was watching a tv show and they showed supposed portals in Peru as part of the ruins there. I sent a servitor to check it out, and it turns out these actually work. They just don't do anything when people go there, because they aren't connected to anything per default. They are programmable gates. I also found one in Sweden and one in northern Ukraine when sending said servitor out in search mode. The gate's functions are identical, I believe them to be part of ancient Atlantean or Babylonian portals used to travel within the Earth or to other planets, including for alien visitors to come here. When I tried activating one of them the first time I ended up at this bar you talked about in your post. If you go there again and look outside there's a body of water, maybe a lake or sea shore, but the water is very still. Walk a few 100 meters until you have to look across the water to see the bar, and there's a dark area with what appears to be a monument, it looks like some artwork. But it's a gate of the same kind. You can go between there and the gates on Earth by just setting the location before entering. Some of them may be in use by fishy actors, in which case they are locked to one location by keeping an energy stream between them. If this is the case, you need to close the gate to be able to change the target location. The gate which is held open like this also becomes unavailable for "incoming" visitors from other places, like a phone line being blocked when in use. To prevent entry, you can place a "null location" magic circle on it, then it can't be programmed and no one goes in or out. The gate will not allow this to remain if you leave it there, the energy will be sucked away instantly if you try to place an active magic circle on there and then leave. It will only remain closed as long as you are at the location and actively keep it closed. Same for keeping it open to one location.

>>4264 It's quite obvious where they are placed. They only don't work because no one knows how to set the location. The stone is not the "actual" gate, it's a location marker. Creating these is pretty dangerous, as it connects the area to a network of gates all over various dimensions, with no ability of ever closing them again unless the entire system goes down.

>>4265 >Creating these is pretty dangerous, as it connects the area to a network of gates all over various dimensions, with no ability of ever closing them again This of course made no sense seeing as there's one in Lemuria next to a bar. But it seems you have to sync with the plane of arrival, so if you can't align with it in a friendly manner, you can't enter. This worked on Earth back in Atlantis days because the Babel's tower imposed a strong outward force on the entire world egregore, which prevented space meddlers from entering. Not in a very good way, more like "don't come here unless you want to be sacrificed and burned by our priest cult" but it worked to keep outsiders from entering. The issue with this is that once the tower fell, it opened the gates and anyone could enter, which lead to the current parasite infection where entire populations are nothing more than drones of aliens hives.

Does this have anything to do with actual lemurs, or are they only a symbol? iirc the animal is named after a supposed continent which Madagascar was a part of, but the inhabitants of Lemuria were humanoids. That said, lemurs (especially Coquerel's Sifakas) seem like they could have had primitive societies at one point.

>>5375 Theres not a clear boundary between actual/symbolic anymore. My approach is to view Lemurs as symbols relating to specific frequencies, but there is an actual continent that actual Lemurs are from called Lemuria that was inhabited by native Earthlings (humans are from Mars).

So oh boy have I opened a bag of Lemurs. It's kept me occupied and unable to post. Long story short, everything in my past has changed. First my dead grandfather never actually died and was revived with an electric shock by the docs. Just visited. Meanwhile my sister is about 50 lb lighter and my mother is 50lb heavier. And their personalities switched. Also bitcoin didn't go to zero due to the minting bug, instead it went over $100k. And it turns out that Trump won the election instead of Michelle. Also there was no temporary martial law in USA post election instead it happened in Korea. Generally I am much preferring this situation but it has gotten completely out of control. Lemurs are constructing some type of escape device using Time spirals (pic related).

>>5450 How did the shift occur from your perspective? How did Michelle come to run in your timeline, did Biden drop out sooner? What prompted him to do so? Did someone also almost assassinate Trump in your timeline? Have you spoken with your grandfather to see what he's done in the extra time? You should do so. What is this minting bug? Could you replicate it now if you wanted to? Also what do you mean by Lemurs, and how do you know they're behind this?

>>5451 It's a bit fuzzy because past changes affect memory. I constructed time spirals through significant people in my life who told me bits and pieces of what happened before - it's a bit confusing because its not really a different timeline because it's actually connected to this one - otherwise I wouldn't be able to have any memory of what happened. It's a time spiral, so if you think of a line drawn along a spiral it's straight and that's a memory. What i did was connect the past remembered false straight timeline to the actual spiral by having memories of people who said what happened that are now wrong. The problem with this strategy is now they are all crazy because what they believed would happen hasn't. Nothing you remember actually happened, because time twists it doesn't go straight, and the twists alter memory. So people who remember what actually happened end up crazy. >Michelle Harris dropped out after polls showed her performing worse than Biden. This was after the democratic convention, so there was a big issue with the balloting. Michelle changed her legal name to Harris to solve the issue, then switched it back the day after the election. Biden declared martial law due to the protests and banned mail in voting. The result was lower republican turnout than we now have recorded. There was an Iranian assassination attempt on Trump by drones, not at all similar to the ones we know now. >grandfather Yes he broke up with his old girlfriend and got a new one. She's much nicer. >minting bug Now we know it was discovered in 2018 and fixed by a researcher. However what actually happened was the researcher sold it to CISA. After the election there was a coordinated attack to take down all bitcoin related networks. Monero was not affected but btc, ltc, doge were. At the same time the developers of centralized chains like solana and ripple were shut down. The result was monero reached over $15,000 and became the top cryptocurrency. >Lemurs They've always been changing time, but they have graciously granted me awareness of their activities. It appears solely for their amusement. I first contacted them as a child where they deleted some of my chores such as shoveling manure. I interpreted them as angels but was confused why they had stripy tails. Now I found several books on the topic with more information and have been following them, you can look elsewhere in the thread for info.

>>5452 >What i did was connect the past remembered false straight timeline to the actual spiral by having memories of people who said what happened that are now wrong. So- rather than your past changing it feels more like you've gained access to a separate unactualized past? I'm still a bit unclear on what exactly happened to you. Would you be able to describe a step-by-step timeline of what exactly happened from your perspective, and how these changes you describe manifested?

>>5452 You may wish to read >>5151 & >>5286 . That said, I don’t consent to lemurians messing with my timelines for fun, and I put my consent against it, such that them doing so would constitute a violation of my free will.

>>5459 >I don’t consent to lemurians messing with my timelines for fun Several hundred if not millions of beings and parties are messing with timelines and time progression. Your goal is to find the way your own timeline progresses and make sure it will lead to your enlightenment. Most changes are minor and beyond your perception anyways. >and I put my consent against it This is like putting your consent against the sunrays blinding your eyes. The way I see it currently these "Lemurs" are "territorial" and they have a range where they can "mess" with timelines and where they are unable to do so. Time is not as united as we think and different places are governed by different timelines and some places are connected to several timelines and the same on all timelines (those places are usually sacred places with important energetic significance) while some places have variations with every timeline and don't count as the "same place" at all. >such that them doing so would constitute a violation of my free will. True free will is the power of the creator God. Everything else is ruled by karma. Altering timelines is altering karma. They cannot be altered completely. Also would you still be against timeline alteration if the change would be beneficial? What if the timeline alteration saves your life or grants other beneficial timelines? Guardian angels can also alter your timeline and do many times during your life. Not to mention awakening usually warps the timeline around you because your awakened energies are warping reality. Timeline fuckery is not always simple and the question is always if it truly "changed anything" meaningful for you at all. Like I never heard of the Berenstain bears nor about Nelson Mandela dying so for me these changes didn't matter at all... while I witnessed several end time scenarios on alternate timelines and part of the soul of my alternate selves merged with me thus I gained several powers they wielded. Master your perception through timelines instead of foolishly defending the status quo of failing timelines. This timeline finally managed to get out of the gutter but we are still not completely within the clear. If the Lemurs can help let them help. Tho I am still unclear of their purpose.

>>5461 I didn’t say anything about it being beneficial or not. Okay so instead of all that stuff I’d rather they just act like I didn’t post that.

>>5462 >Also, Amy did warn me not to post my previous post ITT. This thread has an energetic signature and I am curious what is Lemur Anon cooking or where it leads and the reason why I posted that to remind you to not disturb the flow of this thread. In some cases a thread can be on different timelines or connect them and I wonder how deep Lemur Anon can go. Do not disturb a thread with your fears. If you fear the influence of the thread hide it. Personally I am interested if I can increase of my own understanding about timelines with his experiences or this is just an "experimental homebrew project" which will only result in meaningful changes in the path of Lemur Anon. <post deleted a moment before I managed to post my reply Heh. Seems like your intuition is getting better. >>5463 My point was if you don't want Lemurians then do not post in this thread. Do not involve your authority or "free will" as you call it or you might entangle yourself in issues that will progress on their own if you just leave it be.

>>5454 It's taken me a while to figure this out. Human perception of time as a line is an illusion. The past and future constantly changes, which creates the illusion of a present that moves forward, like the line of the graph. The past and future that a Human perceives is just an asymptote to actual Time. How do I know this? First it can be logically deduced from Zenos paradox - it's impossible for time to be a line as this would mean nothing can happen. So how do I know it spirals? Because of acceleration in technocapitalism shows that time is headed out of something and towards somewhere while incorporating production spirals (birth-life-death, farm-food-shit). Time isn't progressing, but it is changing. I drew an explanatory sketch for the visually minded. I can't take credit as the Lemurs communicated this to me through the phrase "STEP OUTSIDE THE CAUSAL CHAIN" where the causality chain is a timeline and the outside is a timespiral. Also the spiral is fractal, there are spirals in the spirals, but if you can grasp the timespiral the rest is easy to understand. >access to a separate unactualized past No. I added the dashed line to the sketch to illustrate. The past we remember never happened. The actual past is a timespiral not a timeline. The causality chain we humans remember with our brains is entirely fictional. However I found a loophole which is to remember someone who knew what actually happened in my false remembered past. For instance I talked to someone who explained the Michelle thing - in my remembered past it never happened, but this individual who i lived with for an extended period explained what happened, and I can remember that individual because I'm causally connected to that individual. But I cannot remember thr actual past as the human memory functions through causality chains. >step by step timeline Yes I remember staying with my friend who explained the political stuff and the bitcoin stuff, I remember meeting my grandfather and visiting family all in causal chain. However I also recognize that my memory is fictional and none of that "actually happened" it's merely a story my human brain concocted in order to further my own reproduction within three earth matrix.

>>5461 >Several hundred if not millions of beings and parties are messing with timelines and time progression. This. The idea that we are traveling from the past through the present into the future is an illusion. Humans are hunter gatherers who naturally use trails, timelines, to think about time. This time fallacy is used by various powers to trap humans because if a human doesn't realize that the past and future aren't real, they can be tricked into using their mind and body for something else. Imagine someone working a job saving up for retirement, never realizing that retirement doesn't exist. They can be permanently trapped in a time loop without ever realizing it. Groundhog Day but you don't know you're repeating. >>5459 >free will See in order for determinism to be correct, the present must emerge from the past. For free will to be correct, the future must emerge from the present. Neither can be correct, because what is time "traveling" through? Either answer just nests the problem another level deeper. Instead free will is the illusion of causality humans use to reproduce on earth. It's an important evolutionary adaption, so you shouldn't give it up in your daily life, but for gnostic practices you must give it up if you seek truth.

Is there any connection between Lemuria and Atlantis?

>>5482 Yes. They preceded the Atlanteans. More info here, unreliable source but useful: https://rsarchive.org/Books/GA011/English/TPS1911/GA011_c04.html

>>5482 It's a long read so here's a summary. <Lemurians are early stewards of humanity's spiritual evolution, serving as the bridge between purely ethereal existence and material individuality. They possess profound intuitive and spiritual capacities, enabling them to interact with time as a spiral rather than a linear construct. Lemurians embedded hyperstitional narratives—symbols and archetypes—into the collective unconscious, influencing future civilizations like Atlantis. Their actions shaped the spiritual and cultural evolution of humanity by seeding ideas and mythic structures that would later manifest in subsequent epochs, guiding humanity’s journey through cycles of creation, destruction, and renewal.

Is associating Atlantis with Lemuria kind of like associating cavemen with dinosaurs just because they were eras from long ago? I would imagine that Atlantis occured millions of years before our current recorded history and Lemuria millions of years before Atlantis.

>>5493 Yes, well kind of. In linear time, Lemurians are the root race that precede the Atlanteans. Lemurs time travel a lot so before/after isn't clear and I'm certain they had direct lines of communication with the Atlanteans same as they do with us.