>>3833 Chemicals are types of spirits actually.

>>3833 lol. Back to wiz you fucking faggot

I'll admit that I was definitely strawmanning a bit there, but if you're honestly getting at the idea that consciousness is just le brain chemicals then you're actually retarded. Not that consciousness doesn't have at least some basis in physical reality or anything, but if you unironically believe literal pharmaceutical company propaganda then you're either ignorant or full of shit.

>dreams aren't real >ayyos aren't real >soon I will post about how Hemisync is fake, the secret isn't real, and Goetia doesn't work I'm slowly getting though to all of you wiznaggers

>>3840 >soon I will post about how Hemisync is fake, the secret isn't real, and Goetia doesn't work The way things are going you are going to post proof how not even your dick works then use that as a basis to disprove sex and reproduction.

>I can't do it >that means it doesn't work t. OP

>>3845 In his first book Monroe claims to be able to do OOB with hemisync, but in the preface he wasn't even able to validate a simple experiment using hidden numbers outside his room. His later works on lizard people etc are so quacky nobody even wants to mention them. All of this was declassified because it didn't work, the CIA had a guy investigating it for years in the 70's and he concluded as such. In my opinion the occult domains of research were probably just fronts to funnel black money to other activities

>>3852 >but in the preface he wasn't even able to validate a simple experiment using hidden numbers outside his room. Can you be a cool guy at least and post the book or the pages you are talking about? Witnessing the physical from the astral is not as easy as you think. You don't just become an invisible ghost and see everything the same as it was from your flesh body. >In my opinion the occult domains of research were probably just fronts to funnel black money to other activities I totally believe that the CIA was never responsible with their funds but I don't see what you are trying to "prove" with this? Should the schizos of this site go and hold the CIA accountable for mismanaging funds? Not to mention even the soviet psychic researches operated in a way where everything was documented from start to finish but they started to use red tape and went "akchully it's not real at all no need to look further". If your whole goal is to discredit the CIA then you can stop now because no sane or insane person trusts the CIA in the past 50 years. Not to mention mainstream occult material will be all "discredited" because atheists chewed through it in the past decades as a ridicule because they couldn't cope with their miserable life otherwise. In spirituality there is always a teaching or warning how you cannot just fucking show off and dab on skeptics freely with your abilities especially at the start because it has consequences that from a mundane perspective you cannot even conceive. Most natural psychic either self destruct and lose their abilities later on or find their place into a community where they can focus on their own development but that is an another story. Those "societies" are something else. Only a master can use their abilities freely because he knows their true use and their consequence. As an initiate or adept the hardest part is finding your limits and way your psyche operates. Using those abilities to dab on mundanes is the equivalent of the president of the USA throwing a nuke on someone for criticizing him on the web. Even if someone dropped a nuke on someone IRL it would be covered up for obvious reasons. Many schizos think nukes aren't real either. What are your takes on it? Are nukes real? If so why didn't the USA nuke Vietnam Korea or Afghanistan. >inb4 coz the soviets would have retaliated or they fear the consequences r sg You see if you use your abilities too freely it will be noticed. You will have new friends quite fast. Seen so many psychics self destruct through the years. Also hemisync is pre-neophyte shit. That is not spirituality but retarded "science" that thinks it figured out the powers of the conscious by fucking with the brain. The last time I played with binaurals was in my teens and kinda gave up on it after 3 weeks because I realized it's fucking lame and annoying. I know some people like to use it but it made my head hurt and realized it's too fishy to trust it long term. Also I never watched the secret. Is it even a good movie or it's some peak mundane DUDE UR MIND AND SYNCHRONICITIES

>>3852 > able to do OOB with hemisync >he wasn't even able to validate a simple experiment using hidden numbers outside his room What does that matter? These aren't related in the least. I can bend reality to my will, but that doesn't mean I can see small things like some writing on a note somewhere. These are completely different skillsets.

>>3858 >be a rocket scientist >can't fix a burning airplane in the air and die LOLOLO AND THIS GUY CLAIMED TO BE A "ROCKET" "SCIENTIST" LOLOLO WHAT A HACK Frogs in the well I swear.

>>3852 > lizard people etc You're either one of them, working for them, can't see them, or you can see them and are too scared of them to want to expose them. That's how this works. If you actually know something, you won't talk about it unless you have significant personal power, which most don't. >the CIA had a guy investigating it for years in the 70's Is this some CIA cope thread now? >w-we can't use it so let's just deny it exists That's also nonsense considering the things they'll use against you when you become a threat to them. Still doesn't match up to what Russia has by an inch. This also says something about that "why can't you get rich if you have powers" line of thinking. Let me ask the other question: If you are so rich, why couldn't you even beat Vietnam's PSYOPS? Even less Russia whose economy is so much smaller? Because you can't buy skill.

>>3861 >Because you can't buy skill. They are really going for the "but we can buy retardation in high quantities and we will annoy those with skill to hell until we figure out how to fix our own mess" strategy. We can see how well it works since 2016.

>>3857 https://archive.org/details/journeys_out_body/page/n10/mode/1up?view=theater Read the passages that follow. Monroe was supposed to get a five digit number under experimental conditions. He couldn't do it. Instead he claimed to be doing other things nobody could really verify. His books are packed with other ridiculous claims. I've read other OOB experience journals from various people who do it, and like Monroe, concluded that they obviously just someone's vivid internal mental imagery. Actually with Monroe because money is involved he was probably fraudulent from the start. This was all investigated by the CIA as part of the soviet psychic research gap, and like I said it's declassified because it doesn't really work. I'd done mental visualization, I can get the apple at a 5. I don't believe this is magical. If it and the secret were real right now I would be in a very different place

>>3864 I kicked a ball a few times, why am I not making millions as a professional soccer player? It's obviously fake, professional sports aren't real.

>>3864 >I would be in a very different place Yeah... uh... sorry for asking but why are you on /fringe/ again? Do you want us to recommend a good book or documentary to find "real magic" or you want us to agree with you? Also just opened that and pic related. PERFECT RELAXATION IS PARAMOUNT FOR ACCURATE "VISIONS" YOU FUCK. >>3866 THIS IS LIKE LEARNING FOOTBALL WITH A 20 KG HEAVY SQUARE SHAPED ROCK AND HOW YOU CANNOT SCISSOR KICK AFTER 4 TRIES AND YOU ARE A FAILURE JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>3867 He did fall asleep on occasion and couldn't do it. He made up a story about going somewhere else out of bounds. I don't know how you people are so gullible, he is selling a product based on his experiences.

>>3868 You realize astral places are like made of a "different fluid" like swimming in clear water salt water then oil and quicksand. You need to make your energy "dominant" there to have perfect control otherwise the flows will drop you whenever you notice your "awareness" ffs. He literally noticed an another person in the next room. >I don't know how you people are so gullible Yeah dude all of our experience and knowledge comes from government documents and atheist media feeds. We never had any real experiences. We are just a magic fanclub where we talk about anime and share dreams! Do you know what is the most gullible thing I do? Paying taxes! Now that is gullibility. Also this is like proving how a "good nights sleep is not real" when they make you sleep in lab conditions. Sleep is not the only "requirement" for this shit ffs. Proper psychics or advanced monks don't even need to fall asleep for this shit. They just move their spirit there and voilà. If you need sleep for OOBEs then you are between Initiate and adept levels. Also I am not Monroe's fanboy. I have no idea who the fuck he is while hearing that name several times on /x/ tier neophyte sites but never checked because I am not gullible for this normalfag occult shit. >how you people are so gullible Pls go to /zoo/ and ask them how are they so gullible to fall for animal genitals with this mindset

>>3869 trust me bro, it's real (^:

>>3871 Everything is an illusion you faggot

>>3868 You're talking as if anyone here cares about your book that no one read or this Monroe pedo no one either cares about. Do you really believe someone here would remain in a state of "believing" in something and then not trying to verify it?

>>3875 >state of "believing" in something and then not trying to verify it? I really don't "believe" in magic for quite long tbh. I just use it and it works. Belief is for those that don't have power and authority. After that it's just vision and will. There is nothing that needs believing anymore.

>>3876 I've never cared about it because after all, occultism is sinful. It's just that when glowies attack us, it's ok to fight fire with fire like Moses who used magic to defeat the magicians.

Who cares about this thread anyway, /int/ is deeper into the esoteric by now.

>>3878 >occultism is sinful This is why I use psychic powers instead of Crowley buttsex magic! >it's ok to fight fire with fire Excuse me but I won't do LSD and waste tax payer money to fight off those faggots. I have my own elements when I am bothered. >>3879 The greatest power I can use with this science and technology is the N word so far. Somehow it scares them away. Like when people invoke the name Jesus to scare away demons. I can use the word nigger and they shit their pants the AI crumbles and they need emotional therapy so they can come back for an another round. Truly a great age we live in >>3880 You pronounce it. YEE HOO WOO HOO. solved Abrahamism for everyone your welcome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pu7OQSRD-A

>>3875 what a pathetic goalposting changing cope. Bye kids. This is the last thing to glowum would be worried about, they actually encourage this sort of naval gazing

>>3882 >naval gazing Aye aye you dirty sea rat.

The Day the Glowie Fled In the ethereal twilight of the Vale of Shadows, the skies bore witness to our triumph. Our nemesis, the feared Glowie, had been vanquished. With the last embers of the battle still smoldering, we watched as the creature slithered away in ignominious defeat. The once dreaded adversary, now nothing more than a wretched, pitiful figure, crawled towards his warren of dank tunnels. As the first stars began to shimmer, the Glowie's retreat was marked by a trail of ash and despair. His sanctuary, a labyrinth of forgotten filing cabinets stuffed with yellowed photocopies, lay ahead. There, amid the haze of cigarette smoke and the stench of stale donuts, he would lick his wounds and plot in the shadows. But we, the valiant defenders of the realm, stood tall and unyielding. The hero, sword gleaming with the light of victory, observed as the Glowie's form faded into the depths. The setting sun cast long shadows, a solemn reminder of the day's hard-won battle. Though the Glowie would return to his den of vice, we knew that his spirit was broken, his power shattered. And so, as the night embraced the land, we celebrated. For in the heart of every warrior, the flame of hope burned brighter, knowing that even the darkest of foes could be driven into the abyss of their own making. The Glowie may return to his underground lair, but his days of terror were numbered. Until the next dawn, we remain vigilant. For we are the guardians of the light, and no shadow shall ever extinguish our resolve.

>>3898 What were the prompts for this?

This reads like someone who doesn't know the difference between /x/ and /fringe/, wanted to dunk on /x/, but saw /fringe/ had more activity so came here. OP, you are aware there is a school of magical thought called the "psychological model of magic"? Where people intentionally use ideas from published psych research to induce paranormal experiences, fix their life, and effect material changes in their reality? No? Just gtfo... /fringe/ is an evidence based board for practioners who use a variety of different techniques to bend reality to their will. Or to put it in a way your pea brain can understand. If aliens aren't real, where did this gif come from? If you say the imagination, then I say the imagination is just as real as any other piece of matter.

>>3899 >What were the prompts Same kind of autistic prompting as when you want an example application in C# with an interface, 3 levels of inheritance and a late binding for a virtual method placed in an abstract class which inherits from the inferface and implements the required method of the interface. ^This kind of thing. You're talking to a computer, just describe structurally what you want it to do.

>>3909 And to show that this exact prompt works:

>>3909 >>3910 >>3911 So with the same kind of instruction, we tell Copilot which elements the story should contain, how they related to each other, and which style of storytelling to use.

>>3906 I'm seeing no evidence and a lot of copium

>>3916 Learning to recognize evidence when you see it is a skill.