Gwos!

>>1627 server risk savored

I slacked the event and was going to ask wizg for advice but even with advice it's too late now so I'm not going to bother. The rewards aren't that good anyway.

>>1893 Guarda eats up all my time and my fighters are always busy on dispatches

>>1893 kek, I'm just going to take it easy and see what things are like after they rebalance everything

>>1915 I've barely started it (and got spoiled by the OP). The anti-instant death helmets are not doing a good job of preventing Eulalia from instantly dying to the undead knight's attacks, leaving my MC permanently paralyzed until I die trying to revive her. At this point I think I might need to go back and get the luck unlocks for the skill tree since it sounds like they have a lot of buffs to revival.

>>1996 The helms suck. The only good rewards are the skill books and money/ores.

>>2764 Obviously their stats are trash but I would have expected them to do the one job they exist for, at least some of the time. Is it 15% like elemental gear? What about the confusion shield from the pixie event?

>>2797 We don't have any data on it, it's probably really low though. I didn't bother taking the pixie shields with me to the doll fight so I can't comment on those.(the charm is the real killer there anyway)

Good day, sirs!

Damn its rough but its something

>>4524 >t.

We're so back, gwos!

we back?

Guessing the OP links are worthless stuff from week 1 right? Doing priest mausoleum to get Marianne ahead of the nerf compensation and checked the map and I can assure you "Note : Every mausoleum has the same type of map" is not true, the priest map is different from the thief map shown. The wiki also seems like a generic wiki about the franchise and not at all useful for Daphne. Just look at the Events page: https://wizardry.wiki.gg/wiki/Wizardry_Variants_Daphne/Events/

>>5790 Yes that one is very outdated and ran by reddit so no wonder its so shit. https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/ Is well maintained and has up to date info. So next thread wherever it happens should just list this one instead.

>>5790 Pretty sure every mausoleum map layout is the same, but it gets greyed out every time you enter. The marianne compensation is already over, they only counted the ones you used up to the point of the announcement. And every item that has resistances to status are a meme and might not even work to begin with. and monster resistances gear are currently inversed for players.

>Hooded little girl on a broom Gomen Garbage I'm gonna have to go all out...

Also i hate this website, and it feels like i'm posting on an even darker alley, with somehow more drug addicts per square meter.

>>5909 I'm really confused. I take the same route every single time when doing crucible, and I tried to do the same just now, and I could swear I was blocked off from the usual path and forced to fight the very first monster in the first room. But now on my second run it seems normal? I'm probably just retarded. As for Marianne, that's not what the text said, though functionally for my case it makes no difference. You're right that it's as of the announcement, but it's supposed to be for every copy you've obtained. Guess I'm just punished for slacking mausoleum, unless they only count gacha ones or something.

>>6030 If you goof around at the start, the enemy that patrols the first room can just walk towards the entrance and touch you The marianne refunds might be: Every one you ever gotten, every one you used, every one you used for inherits, who knows, drecom can't into england very goog, wait and see type of situation, one thing is for sure, it was over when the announcement went live

>>5865 rentryanon here, took my time completing Another Eden Part 3, turns out everyone(?) moved here. For the baker, use this template for the next thread, https://rentry.org/WizDaphneTemplate, pass is savortherisk (i don't know the pass for the prev.template), changed the EN wiki to fasterthoughts, you can add anything else you felt missing.

Gwos I missed you, hope you're still enjoying your adventures!

What are our hopes and expectations for post-maint anni celebrations? I'd like some extra badges since I wasted 7 on Gerulf yesterday just to have a third fighter. I doubt I'll ever use him again because he's not a female elf.

I missed you all, skelies.

>>7622 just hope we get those inheritance changes, I'm tired of holding

>>7622 Hopefully the new guarda area is as good a farming spot as boat 2, and the inheritance changes.

>>8884 >>9110 Tbh I took them for granted, I was thinking more of stuff like a "magfes" if you've played Granblue at all. Basically a shitton of buffs to various stuff all at once. Though I guess in this game it'd be equivalent to one of those purchasable weekly/monthly passes they sell so maybe not.

>>9236 I don't know what you are referring to, but in this shitshow there is no buffs, only nerfs, mostly shadow nerfs.

Hello /wizvag/

i just ranked up to lvl 40 do i need to grind out old castle ruins now that its available or can i wait until later

>>13006 I'm 60 and haven't touched it

>>13006 Its a limited time ranking event, its not up right now.

Lana best girl.

>>15067 milk covered hands typed this

Soon the promised update

Btw I've been reading the old archived threads as I progress through the game. Is human priest anon still alive?

hello gwos

Missed you bwos, and here I thought I would be savoring the bugs after today's maint alone.

Savoring with the gwos. Any dataminers, we got downloads

>>18222 game doesnt have dataminers, or they keep it to themselves

>>18626 We got some people posting datamines on the discord... but they are selective of what they post

Selector banner and events after maint.

Post your Mariannes

>>19598 +100 coins in mail too, dev listened.

>knigger defense previously was affected by alice >no nerfed Oh, wow I didn't even realize that. Kniggers just can't catch a break.

>>19598 I got 210, so... 21 copies of any general adventurer, can't decide if I'll just max someone I have at 60 like Flut, Chloe or Kiriha or maybe go for Amelia so I have a second thief who's actually good at disarming traps

>>20027 You too huh? At least other towns still work for me.

>>20035 Yeah the other two work. Suppose it ain't a Daphne update without them breaking something on the PC client.

>>20000 I also got 210 frags. Probably gonna go for a pile of Amelias myself. SURELY in 21 copies I'll finally get a decent one.

Is she new? She gives Evasion bondmate.

>redispatch button added Best update

>>20219 Oh thank god

>>20219 Devs listened?!

>>20027 Used the Cursed Wheel to jump the plot back to Trade Waterway which seemed to have fixed it. Returning to the fortress via the wheel as well didn't recreate the bug. So if anyone needs it fixed I guess this is the method?

>>20429 Nevermind. Managed to recreate the bug by accepting the Princesses mid fortress request. Seemingly that's the thing bugging it.

How much dupes of a character I need to max out the discipline?

>>20530 apparently like 30 or 35

The gold ore quest starts on Fortress 3rd floor btw, also bring Marianne for extra gold.

>Fps inheritance is from elda >Sneak attack inheritance is from milana Seems kinda strange to give such strong skills to regular units

Did I read that right that alice skill now actually apply to all active skills? Is Savia coin rising up because of it?

>>20715 >0.15% You are more likely to roll legendary than rare Elda, lol.

For the gold urgent Bring your marianne for MONEY

You can get rare inheritance from mausoleum bones! There 10% chance for that.

>>21119 >farmed up all my bones last night before the patch >not retroactive nyo...

>>19598 Only 40, feels bad being a steam newcutie

>>21320 I've got those bones before update.

>>20600 What the fuck I had to nuke my party's mental to get a Marianne from the mausoleum to do the quest (I used all four of mine getting Alice level 3 poison removal) and now I have to bring them and a level 1 Marianne to Guarda floor 3? This might be too much risk for me to savor. >>21049 Okay yeah I just straight up can't do this except maybe the bottom left by cursed wheeling to the fountain.

>Wake up >Let's see what kinds of fresh hell has drecom unleashed >15 pages of stuff >You now need to spend even more tags to get the new inherits Thanks for the added RNG and costs on inherits, and nerfing the knights i guess

>>21556 you only need MC at certain grade levels to unlock the new skills, not extra tags

>>21530 The gold monsters respawn everytime you leave so you don't have to fight through the entire map, I just teleport to 3rd floor harken, fight the lower left one >>21049 and exit.

>Treasure chests that shoud reappear over time do not appear Surely daily bone is back Also, did they remove status weapons applying the status on skills (again) or they put it back?

>>21686 I don't have the harken, the boss murders me. I could cursed wheel to the fountain but turns out it's not necessary since I can just ignore the game telling me to go to Guarda and do it here.

>>21707 wow maybe I should have check out the ship first. Also the cap is 60k I think, Anna says I got the highest reward when I turn it in.

>>21789 I got 48k so Guarda is still better.

I did 44 rolls for Abenis, what do I buy with the pity stuff?

I thought I lost you forever, until I remembered theres 2 rentry links

I haven't played in 2 weeks, the class changeback things are new right?

>>21876 All the skill books in Abenis shop are kinda meh so the bones imo, but depends if you want to spend 16 more rolls for the legendary. That's 16 more rolls for the Witch that's Coming Soon™.

I bought a bunch of Vivianas to test this but I seem to be missing something >Her extra rare inherit is Surety passive buff >But there's also a "Special Inherit" icon right beside Viviana with the usual "Hide" inherit

>>22118 It's probably visual bug, I had same with my Daniel.

I don't understand where I have to go for the gold event Also the event is only for today? >>22028 First time seeing them. Added with today's update.

>>22218 B4 for Abyss 1 or Better yet Shit Lower Deck 1 for Abyss 2

I wonder how good is poison now, tempted to go all in milana, but if it's shit i might just discipline my ninja mans.

>>22235 >Shit ship*

I'm surprised the fire dragon is in the EX category, is it never going to be reused in future content then? Seems like a waste.

>Not saving all your fragments for the future 4* Pixie character lmao

>open compendium >model viewer >spin to the back >see clothes clipping They forgot people could see the back now, huh

So how much Gold can you get from this event? I did all the thieves in one area and it rewarded me 48k. Was there supposed to be more thieves in other areas?

For me, the gold ore quest was in grand legion floor 3.

>>22665 A redditor got 20k bonus gold out of it, doing it in the beginner abyss I got 36k from doing it in the water way. It might depend on how far you are in the game. Probably, doing the one at the Guarda fortress will result in more money rewards.

>>22665 I got 60k from doing it at Guarda 3rd floor.

>>22700 >>22721 I see. I did it on the ship to try it out and the values match. Will try to do it on Guarda next. Does the floor you do it on have some impact on the reward I wonder.

What do the filled out dots over the entry in the compendium mean? Also, it's disheartening to see that big slimes have no elemental weaknesses. Those slimy shits take way too long to kill for practically no rewards at level 40.

>>22665 got 48k from guarda 3rd floor. i think you got 60k if you bring marianne? also, you can sign 4 kind of contract from new area from guarda. tried the exp one, seems like it give exp x2? only mc can use it. and the mp one give you +145 mp, i don't test the sp and damage dealt one, maybe someone else can check.

>>22820 Oh the new area is already in the game? Where is it? I didn't see any warning about it ingame so I thought it would be implemented in a future update

>marianne literally goes "gimme gimme money!" kek that's cute

>>22845 need to accept request from guarda's guild, then go to zone 10, zone 8, library area in zone 10, and last go to the tunnel. the new area is unlocked after that, by going down the newly created hole inside the tunnel.

>>22915 Thats alot of mana

>>22820 >+145 mana but you need to paypig the revives can you just cancel them at any point?

>>22953 that's the effect from this contract >>22820, if yek die the fortitude stays at 0, and i don't know if i can terminate the contract when she's dead >>23032, should i even try it? lmao. and you can fight the contract giver, but i guess it's more like superboss at this point.

Whats a lot of gold...

>>23081 >>22820 So MC mage is now meta? 332 Mana + "technically" farmable Way of the Mage and Way of the Priest, as well as "Mage/Priest Spell Expertise" from Well of Mind virtually results in Unlimited magic.

Am I tripping or did the max resolution of the Steam version get increased? >>23681 Magic is still worse for single target damage and MC isn't better than other mages Also this contract rapes your max HP and forces you to pay gems for revives, it seems rather pointless unless you want bigger MP pools for trivial farming runs

>>19598 Not sure what to do with these.

>>23941 You can exchange them at the jeweler for more adventurers and other stuff.

I guess we should expect these to appear in weekly shop now, right?

14 STR on Abenius means she's IV'd, right? She should only have +3 from Fighter if I'm reading the chart correctly.

Tempted to use all the coins on Chloe... Make a super disciplined kitty... fuck that's hot...

>>24093 Sounds good. I personally got 5 gandolfos and happened to hit 2 WotW. Sitting on ny other 130 coins

>>24082 yea

Pretty cool that this guys dialogue is fully voiced, the contracts seem like a terrible idea though, except maybe the exp one if you're doing something very safe The available ones are: >Increase attack power in exchange for greater damage taken to everyone in the same row and even bigger increase to the contract taker >Increased SP in exchange for decreased max HP for everyone in the same row >same thing but for increased MP >all contracts also add a fixed/separate chance of getting ambushed oh and also characters immediately go to 0 Fortitude with no way of regenerating it while under the effect of any contract So all in all seems totally pointless

>>25114 The EXP one might be useful for macrochads if the forced ambush chance doesn't happen during scripted fights like during the EXP grinding request at the pier. Otherwise yeah they all look like hot trash.

>>25114 I could see it if completing the contract removed the downside but that seems unusable for anything outside of "repel enemy forces" farm or something like that.

>>25363 I don't see any "completion condition" or anything, it just seems like something you activate and can then deactivate again

>>25114 MP for backrow HP down seems like an okay deal

>>25563 In exchange for immediately going to 0 Fort? Really only in content that has 0 threat on them

On hit effects are really back

Where the FUCK do the goblin for the goblin coun request spawn? And how do you get the key for the locked room on next floor?

I just started rerolling. Got the dark elf, gerulf and yekaterina from the gacha. Do I keep this or reroll again until I got the limited rate up girl?

>>26236 arborias and yeka are great, I'd keep.

>>26236 Id go for arboris yekat/alice abenis. And pick whichever of the middle 2 i didnt get

So besides Marianne who else has thing for gold? Jean and Bibiana? I would like to see more character reactions from the current event >>26236 Yeka and Gerulf you can get from the standard bones or even the limited ones of other characters Yeka is great to have early to mid game (she's still good later just not amazing) while Gerulf is good enough for a Fighter I like Abe so I would recommend you trying to get her Don't have Arboris so I have no opinion on him

>>26236 benis isn't anything too special, get her if you like her but not worth rerolling over. elf and yeka are great, Gerulf coin I don't know

if i buy the mission pass I'll get a total of 4 class changes to buy I already have Lana's to use for fighter so I was considering buying the class changes for yek, alice, adam I have never been graced by the presence of a Debra bone so what would be a good 4th to pick up also, do legendary char class changes ever show up in weekly exchange?

>>26755 They do show up in the weekly just like every other characters, I got my Yeka priest book from it.

Hopefully we get a farmable way to obtain these class change requests things, even if it is a limited amount by time. I was hoping it would be here with this update already, but them putting them in paid packs instead doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

It took me like 10 hits to land one poison(lvl1), on the necromancer, and it hits for 22/turn It's 22 times better than old poison :)

>>27435 Wasn't it always 1% of max health?

fuck i missed this entire questline at the start. am i bricked?

>>27551 In this land of risk savouring, bricking because of missing out on quests is not one of them

>>27551 If you're on your first playthrough of the Abyss don't worry about it, it's scripted that you won't do everything correctly

i had to uninstall after being burned out from the collab event. I saw they made a post about hearing our feedback. Are they making events completable by normal people or should I just wait to come back?

>>27468 It was (fixed dmg - res), which almost always resulted in 1 dmg, who tf knows if they changed to % now or if they just upped the fixed dmg. I'm trying to test in other enemies but this shit doesn't hit

>>27655 The Fighter Event basically was just a check if you have 3 built fighters, if you did you could clear it pretty quickly, if you did not, you were just shit out of luck (after they fixed an exploit that let you avoid any fights) But they'll probably keep doing events like the collab to appeal to JP grindgods, its your own issue if you feel compelled to completely clear that shop out, just getting the rare/worthwhile stuff wasn't that much of a grind

>>27671 Try it on a sentryclops

>>27655 nips will always have their grind events

how do you clear the weekly gold ore quest?

>>27698 >(after they fixed an exploit that let you avoid any fights) Just curious, what was it? I only managed to clear up to intermediate, which was pretty easy for me with my two level 60 fighters + 60 MC, I would just FPS with everyone repeatedly and it would die in a few turns, but the jump to clearing the advanced one was fucking massive. I managed to get to the vampire once by using the doors strategically to avoid fights, since every fucking fight in advanced was a boss encounter pretty much, but I couldn't do anything to that piece of shit boss. I even brought some def down scrolls and shared power. I am guessing higher level of discipline and high level skills were just required, and I didn't have those.

>>27699 Didn't manage to land one on cyc yet, but got a hit on pic rel Seems like they just juiced the base dmg

>>27855 >weekly It's weekly? FUCK, I NEED GOLD go to abyss 3 floor 3, bring marianne with you. kill the stationary FOE in the south. repeat twice more

>>27855 That just means that you can do it every day for a week.

>>27894 You'd open the event tab at the same time you took a step into the boss, which would have you phase through him, allowing you to just walk through the door and talk to the master.

>>27894 you could phase through enemies by quickly opening the event menue as you stepped in to them so you could bypass every enemy encounter, including the final boss patched within a day

>>27894 you pretty much just needed a third fighter with FPS the crux was doing enough damage in the window between his defense buff running out and him starting to spam the instakill bats and 3 FPS usually guaranteed that even with mediocre gear (unless you got unlucky and missed on some of the hits)

Finally got to the gambling fight Holyfuck how the fuck do you beat this shit. I thought i was safe with 180 Eva on my frontline. They still get hit. What kind of bullshit is that.

>>27918 its daily, i did it before and after reset

Can cover trigger counterattack? I am considering the biggest brick and go all in cover 7 Savia but if cover happens, can you counter attack?

>>28000 I fisted them with neutral adventure man, get cure crit poison potions, I gave dp scroll to my caster because they do like 400 damage per scroll and a knight spamming knights defense, kill right column first then left, leave knight for last.

Is Philip's Presence of the Mind skill only applicable to him?

Landed one on the scorp lady, and since she has very high res it was a good test to see if they changed the formula to %, and they did not.

You can fight the god of death apparently lol https://youtu.be/IBv32-tNrSk

Do the ossuary adventurers only have 5 bp? Because both the adventurers I took from there only had that much. Was I just unlucky?

>>29604 Pretty sure it's still random, the ones I pulled had different amounts of BP

>>29604 I pulled one and got a 7.

anyone putting abe skill on MA? A pre-emptive sounds great to have

Some giga whale on the fasterthoughts Discord has already killed the God of Death

So what's the new Guarda stuff all about? Is it hard?

gwos this update is too overwhelming... my small brain can't understand what is going on... help bwos....

>>30294 whats it do

>>30575 Increased Dark and Instakill resistance, probably random rarity and stars, the guy got 3* blue with EVA and ASPD

>>30328 >>30382 There's a new request in Guarda that unlocks a new floor that has lots of difficult enemies. There's also two minibosses in it that I imagine will filter a lot of people. If you get to the end, you unlock an NPC that offers you shitty contracts that ruin your account in exchange for very minimal gains. Maybe the devs will change the contracts or people will figure out how to abuse them, but for now the update's content is kind of a dud and not worth bothering with.

Now for mask to get skillbooks for flutterdream lv 3

>>30594 what a lucker

BOTH ABE AND MASK CAN PROC FDS dmg was about 1/3 of a normal attack but both blind debuffs stacked

>>21049 help for the gold urgent >red circle has no stationnary enemy; there was a note on the ground and that's it >purple circle is not accessible; can not find the underground entrance do I need to kill the GWO of Garuda to unlock those two?

>>31472 nevermind I didnt know you could repeat it >>21686

I have two options on my 14x mariane coin, Discipline my milana and maintain the same team, or swap berka and get kiriha on her place ( with 3 extra copies on the bag ) Watchu think fags

>>1604 You're here! I found you! At least 40 of you. Lots of new stuff in this update. I really missed these threads with the death of 4chan.

>>5944 I bet she is cute.

>>31422 I wanted to give FDS to my player-character. But with no option to disable skills I didn't dare to. I really wish they allowed us to disable skills.

>>31764 did you kill the doll? i have almost the same team as you

>>32291 she doesn't look that cute

>>32249 We're all gonna make it.

>>32411 redbeard bros, don't look

>>32357 Yeah, it was a complete shitshow but i did, here's a pic of me ressurecting alice with the camera stuck under the doll dress.

>First Guarda GWO fight >Ran out of mp & sp >Had to resort to basic attack spam >Doing literal single digits >Only won because the GWO did it's ATK up DEF down ability and pushed those single digits to just over 100 Sweating balls there, probably the most tense fight I had in this game.

Does anyone know what's the level breakpoint for Agora's turn increase? I know you get 1 extra turn at level 1, when do you get 2 turns if is inherited by someone else? Looking through nips wiki and they say is 2 turns extra at level 3 but I can't tell if is for alice or for someone else

>>32687 I remember one anon saying that it's 1-3.. for alice, and 1-5 for everybody else.

bag secured

>>31764 so.. either D5 milana or D6 kiriha. With more discipline, Milana will have high aspd and more stat that will make her a good chest opener (and you can get some sneak attack inherit skill from dupe if you're lucky), Kiriha if you need frontliner that has potential to waste enemy turn thanks to his high evasion from discipline, and can deal some good damage using covert strike, the drawback is high exp req, and need to invest quite a bit to gear him up, you'll want some atk/eva blessing on your gear. >>32687 1-3-5-7 for alice, 1-5 if inherited

>>32727 >>32743 Thanks bros, well I guess I am sticking with level 1 for the foreseeable future. Still 2 turns of blackbeast feint is pretty sweet already.

>>32743 I don't really have the gear for kiriha, mostly one decent dagger, honestly my whole team has shit gear so that's a everyone's problem i'm still fixing, as for xp he's already with 5m on the bank just waiting for the opportunity. I do like the big titty berka, but damn for as far i'm using her she might as well be a generic gimped fighter. I'm reluctant to invest more on milana due to the looming feeling that i might swap the mc to the backline in the future and open chests with him.

>>32854 like the other said, berkanan is quite good if you're able to get heavy attack 3 for her, but yeah not having full power strike in her skillset sucks. at least her unique skill stacks with the other def down, so you can like stack armor break, morlis,and true word of fire for 3-stack of def down. the ossuary is permanent anyway, so you can take time thinking of who do you want to get.

blew 100 rolls on Benis, got 3 copies, 7BP no boon, 7BP luck boon, 6BP dex boon. Is luck boon benis with skill inherit lv3 the way to go?

>>33110 don't rush into FDS when lv1 Discipline is +2 for most stats, +4 for bonus stats, and +10 hp +~3 MP/SP You can use scrolls for FDS

>>33110 I think Discipline and Skill Inheritance are better than skill leveling to be honest You can always use Skill Books for that while Discipline and Inheritance can only be done with dupes

>>33135 >>33151 Oh shit I actually have 4 benis, 8bp no boon is the last one. Luck boon 7BP or 8 BP no boon? Scrolls for FDS and dupes to disc sound less dumb than smashing them on skill inherit. Nips say Lv3 FDS to get a normal hit worth of damage, is it that important? Also is she even worth inheriting to other characters/mc when the skill activation drops to 30%?

Way of the Warrior on Rinne, thoughts?

>>33230 Boon will always be better than no boon by the end of the day Check their Fortitude

>thought all this time eulalia taking 50k damage was stuff instant deathing her >actually it was just her paladin armor making her take 250* more damage than she's supposed to man no wonder i've been hardstuck floor 3

>>32435 give me tips please, i want to kill it at level 50 too

>>33537 1. Mental unity into Tzalik 2. Everyone has a fuck ton of sedation scrolls on their inventory, except alice, who has only DP scrolls 3. Pray The MC is the only one with HS 3, and out of 8 that i threw, only ONE hit the fuckin doll. If she didn't die at the turn i killed it, i was absolutely going to eat shit.

>>33679 did you debuff the doll?

>>33815 Berka was keeping her with perma batilgref, but honestly it did nothing, she always had 2 turns, and was nigh immune to physical attacks.

>newly acquired unregistered leggos now will get locked automatically >if you want to inherit their skill, you need to register them and then unlock Any way to make it less cumbersome? I want a way to add note on copies so I can tell them apart...

>>34594 Perhaps you can manipulate the condition for the autolocking at the cog screen. They do have a new adventurer autolock function there, after all.

>>33537 You want the legit way or the I am a filthy degenerate and I just want to beat it no matter who shitty the method is. nta btw

glad i checked the rentry. hi gwos

>>32249 Savor the risk gwo

>>28194 yes

How do you make a glossary of all the equipment in the game and not include their special effects, just base stats

I think I missed a paradigm shift in the culture, I know "bwo" but what does "gwo" demean?

>>39825 In the wizardry variants daphne context, gwo stands for greater warped ones, the bosses of the abysses like Helmut and other such beings.

wew

>>39825 Just a pun on bwo with the game gwo. Loosen up

My character froze in front of a chest and i can't move now. Harken doesnt fix The Forced Recovery fixed it Now it happened again and i can't use Forced Recovery to get out of it man, fucking hell dude these fucking bugs

>>33465 >hardstuck floor 3 Not any more, but at what cost?

I am trying to use the class change thing to figure out what initial stats my alice had, I took all the gear off her but it still shows stats that make no sense, what am I missing?

>>40451 Passing grade exams increases all your stats by one iirc and you also have to factor in the BPs you distributed

>>40457 Ohh so since shes level 40 that would be -2 on everything? The only bond she has gives her status resist but thats good to know thank u

Berkachan...

I am building arboris but he feels a lil shit so far, how do I build him properly? light armor and dagger in the frontrow?

I missed you guys so much gwos..

>>40580 What's your level? Thieves can be in the frontrow after lvl30-40 since they can have enough evasion to not get hit constantly Before that it's too risky

I believe the best Thief to open up chests is actually a REGULAR(non legendary) ELF Thief(Female for bonus IQ) There is only 2 at the moment(One of them requiring a class change book) Even if you will somehow get an IQ boon + 10 points Arboris and put all 10 points into INT, he'll still fall off the moment you get enough Amelias for Disciplinemaxxing. That said I still advice getting a LUCK boon Amelia AND dumping all into LUCK for better Eva and Surety

>>40731 >Amelia Milana*

>>40621 highest chars are 40 arboris is 20 rn

>>40731 does discipline really stack stats that hard? Im fairly new (end of abyss 2) so I havent used discipline yet.

>>40731 luck affects surety?

>>40879 Not really at first but you will notice the hp difference after the third or fourth discipline level It's why rare adventurers will inevitability be the best characters to have

So is trap detection way more important than trap disarm since the latter is just a QTE skill check and even the hard ones are doable?

>>40998 I mean the hardest one I did was a mimic I dunno if they get like way way WAY worse than that

>>40923 Its easier to say what Luck doesn affect: >Action Speed >Attack and Magical Attack >Flat stats like HP, MP, SP, Def Everything that makes the game throw a "dice" is affected by Luck somehow. Still. On non Thieves and Ninjas you should SPDmax. Especially on casters.

>>40967 If you are good enough to hit QTEs that are only a couple of pixels wide, you might as well drop thieves entirely since mages can have high trap detection due to their IQ.

Got Luck IV Abenis Any point in maxing more Luck or just go in on Str and Spd.

>>41093 Funnily enough! Milana is the best mage to open up chests as well!

How much HP does this thing have? I am doing the request in helmuts area, not sure if its worth banging my head into this wall

>>41461 Impossible to silence him so you need Magical Barrier. If you don't have Iarumas then just wait until lvl 40.

Unrelated but does this site have an 4chanX equivalent? Quoted posts somehow only open one level deep and unable to trace backward?

>>41197 Luck is kinda of a meme build Str is a safer investment

>>41461 Somewhere close to the 30k ballpark as I recall. Lowest I managed to do it is with level 37s.

>>41197 Since now we can inherit Way of the Knight from Alex, Luck has 1 more thing going for it on Abenis. Though unless you plan to invest heavily into Follow-up attack it's still sort-of a meme build.

The ninja gear is real

>>34641 gwo..I glitched the Proving Grounds to get the ring and I felt proud of course I want to beat it no matter what!

>>41494 I am level 40 but no iarumas, do I just cortu alot?

Remember to do you dailies and turn in your gold request Is what I was going to say 1 hour ago

>>40325 Nothing the gold daily cant fix

>>40079 I suggest trying on another device(make sure to link) like if on pc;try phone, or vice versa. Also dont open that chest if its bugging. Forced recovery IS 24hr cd for some dumb reason

How much gold do you get from the urgent quest? I missed the one yesterday because I was a retarded and didn't see where I had to go, but saw a post in this thread now. I haven't got to that map yet, but I should be strong enough to get to it, but only if the rewards are actually good because I am lazy.

>>41852 I hear if you poison yourself you cant get charmed/confused. Go step on some tiles and come back, sure you take like 10hp a turn but so what. If it doesnt work, well i never tried it since you dont need to fight her again. Worth a shot though

>>43639 Guarda like 60k Abyss2 ship 48k Capital 30? Using a marianne/another golddigger in your team.

How does Rinne's Empty Husk work? No armor as in no body armor or nothing PERIOD and just weapons?

>Flutterdream Flash with a bow on MC I'm cumming

for older players, did the Cave of Malice currency carry over?

Can someone help me with party composition? On abyss floor 7 right now but every boss fight feels so fuckin difficult even mobs wiped out my party a few times. I barely won with rng against the scorpion girl after resetting like 5 times

>>44074 >*Party composition and character build

>>44074 Anon, you're fucking stacked. Your problem is not your lineup, it's either your gear or your gameplay

>>44074 i think you're a little underleveled for that area, i was around level 15 when i made it to the 7th floor undead enemies are very troublesome to harm so you'll need to use magic or undead bane weapons

Can't tell if my alice has a boon or not, was there a calc?

>>44074 Swap drigga with elise and give him a bow, farm some anti-undead weapons and level up a bit

>>44219 I see. I had him using daggers. I thought you should put him on middle front for the passive buff

>>43966 No, and character banner points don't carry either Gandolfo-Heavy Attack Elise-Armor Break Chloe-Warrior's Cry Ophelia-Counterattack Elda-Follow up Olive-Will to Fight Benjamin- Fighter HP UP Gaston-Fighter ATK UP Philip-Delay Attack Milana-Poison Attack Viviana-Hiding Jean-Disarm UP Amelia-Stealth Bakesh-Trap Detect UP Galina-DIOS Emil-MADIOS Marianne-LATUMOFIS Daniel-MACALDIA Valdor-MAKALTU Flut-MIGAL Jarmil-FERU Asha-KATINO Dino-MONTINO Alex-Stun Bash Eckart-Attract Hit Clarissa -Self Heal Eldorado-Cover Eulalia-Behind Cover Barbara-Assault Guard Kiriha-Armor Pierce >>44074 The Dwarf bros are actually a godsend for early game due to how fucking tanky they are. You don't see a lot of magic unless you run into 4 bone sorcs but you don't appear to have them. Eulalia Mask Gerulf Yek Alice Arboris I said Eulalia because she has def buff, water element for Halito from bone sorcs, has behind cover, and generally higher ASPD so she can use defend to bait an opening I dunno your Mask's stats/gear but I'm assuming you're okay with having him as a frontliner Arboris is AMAZING with Savia, but Gerulf isn't much of an evader so just keep Gerulf tanky and protect his terrible mag def with cortu or Eulalia ALICE SHOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE REAR This is the place where she shines moreso than LAERIK If it gets close to the rope, Give Alice a mace and shield in her item bag and yek a dagger of undead bane

>>44074 >level 12-13 Do some grinding on floor 7 for anti-undead weapons and experience. The extra health and stats from leveling will make the biggest difference for you at that point.

>>44289 At low levels you just can't put him on the front, he's way too squishy and you don't have access to good EVA gear Also put alice on the middle for now, Labadios rapes undead harder than laerik. Also, at lvl 15 alice learns MAREIN, which works wonders for the early undead.

>>44199 https://wizardry-daphne.mcwild.net/init_status/ Go to change class and compare her mage stats to this Remember to -1 all the stats for each grade

>>43750 They worded it weirdly, it's just simply no Heavy Armor or Light Armor, you can still wear robes and other gears.

holy fuck bros party is Elda Galina Savia Yek Mask Arboris I ate two alice yesterday for agora lv 2 and I keep hearing her quotes after fights "I can't believe we went up against such RUNTS" etc

>>45326 >her quotes As in Alice? I don't recall her voice lines mentioning runts. Alice says something along the lines of torture sessions, while Agora says something about weaklings. I could definitely be wrong since I'm always on double speed so I never get to hear the voicelines in full lol

>>45374 Agora's only, not alice's did a double take when I heard "Wanton slaughter" and remembered that I had Galina as my priest

>>45532 Huh... maybe that's what the artist was referencing?

>>45821 Damn. Thought it was a dope aspect of Alice protecting Mask's identity from the ones he resurrects so they don't freak out over his face.

fucking rip should've gave abe dupe to rinne instead of discipline https://x.com/ruruna_de/status/1913166199527010404

nvm think I was confusing Elda with agora on x2 speed dammit

>>46096 its all fun and games until you look at their equips

They really really need to add a better way to get Ninja gear. This shit is ass. I propose a crafting event where you farm ores and the blacksmith makes a piece of gear of your choice and you pump ores into it to roll the substats.

>>47194 Thanks for beta testing, ninjabros

Should I keep one of each character or are there certain characters that are just better than others in regards to non-legendary?

>>47642 Having as many adventurers as possible helps with sending them out on dispatch missions and having somebody in the meantime to fill in the role while you keep your main party members back at the guild to restore their fortitude after you got killed by buggy ambushes that cause your party members to be killed three times in a row. And of course, it might also allow you to get those weekly >go to bed and level up 1 time achievements if you have a big roster available.

>>46096 Abe's skill is trash when inherited to someone else because it only activates 10% of the time. That's just a lucky clip.

>been using the steam forums all this time instead and it turns out everyone just moved here anyways NINJAMCBROS WE ARE SO FUCKING COOKED WHY IS DUAL WIELD NINJA ONLY NOW

>>47995 I hate to be that guy but unless they do something about the exp gain Ninja MC is gonna SUCK! You can't send MC on dispatches and needing, what is it 20 fucking mil exp for 60? And it's only gonna get worse, too.

>>47995 you will farm 10 gorillion exp and have no equips and you will like it

>>47995 The secret drecom spy saw us talking about MC dual wield and shut it down.

>>47995 Because then it would make Ninja a useless class

>>44302 what makes Arboris good with Savia? i don't see the synergy at all

>>43698 that's smart!!! thanks anon

WTF, is this new? Or just super-dooper rare

>>50538 get that vamp a nail clipper damn

>>1604 lol

aye, rinne with abe skill is a game changer who cares about damage when crit or on hit dagger

So what did everyone do with their free bones anyway?

>>50965 Went all in on Chloe and maxed her discipline

>>50986 Based.

>>50965 Eldas and gandolfos. Fps3 now on mc fua 5 Heavy 3 berk+iarumas 2wotw

>>50965 forever holding

>rolling for new character >she has 80 fort only Why does it feels so devastating? Even more than low bonus or shit boon...

>>43709 Oh I didn't know it had options for every dungeon, I thought it was just guarda.

Before I forget, what should I buy here? I was only able to clear up to intermediate so I only got 250 coins.

>>53062 WotW WAS the must have but now there are alternatives with the new Potential Inherit system and it is a bit expensive Heavy Attack (get 1 for sure if you don't have HA3 on MC), Follow-Up Attack and Counterattack are good buys Because the books are devalued due to the new system, a Class Change scroll is an option too if the two free Class Change tokens didn't get you all of the ones you wanted, particularly Lana's Fighter scroll. Remember not to buy scrolls to change back because you have the other new currency to use for that instead now, so only scrolls to new classes for that character are valuable

>>53168 Thanks, looking at the gacha, these potential inherits seem pretty rare though so maybe it is still worth getting WotW. I think I will get WotW and HA + Follow-up.

>>53644 I mean, only because I already have all the fighter class change scrolls I want, otherwise yeah I think you are right, and that might have been better use of the points now. We will eventually end up with a ton of these skills anyway, even if the chance is pretty low for now.

Can anyone help me why the corrosion sentry flag don't appear on my wheel for portrait gallery and ghost of yore?

>>54311 Ghosts of Yore doesn't have Sentry flag Portrait Gallery has one. so you will likely have to go through that area and reach the harken while blocking the sentry to set it up

>>54336 >Ghosts of Yore doesn't have Sentry flag It does

>>54352 Well. then you don't need it for True End. At least that was in my case. Also MAUSOLEUM RESET TOMORROW GET YOUR 5 BONES

I've never class changed a non-MC character yet, but I'm preparing to. Bonus points and boons carry over, yes? If I pump STR on a STR booned Lana, it all carries over to Fighter?

>>54468 Boons may or may not carry over, depending on the class. Some classes can't have some boons and thus they get neutral statlines in that case(and visaversa, where if you have neutral line the class change may have a boon). If it's one that overlaps it should carry over though.

What class do you guys normally sit the MC in? I've gotten most of the stuff from the martial classes but I'm walled by the 6th floor of Abyss 2 until I get some better gear. K***ht seems really, really terrible so I guess MC can be a Thief in the backline?

>>54592 Fighter

>>54592 I've got fighter, thief, and priest(and part of mage to learn all the status spells) all leveled on him and they all have some use depending on the team comp. Knight is very niche and basically only useful for knigger defense on hard bosses(less so now that alice's skill doesn't affect it, rip) and maging is better done by priests anyway. I'll probably level ninja slowly for autobattle purposes once we get it but I'm not looking forward to that grind.

Hello fresh player here. Less than a week in, whaled, legendary team killed ents on B3. My question is besides guild missions and waifus how many spare parties do you guys keep? Do you level team 2 after gaining the wheel or is it just the one party.

>>54592 For now Fighter but I will main ninja later, already dreading the 10 milli grind.

>>54592 Fighter is best if you get Heavy Attack 3 (1 book or 1 Gandolfo) and get all of the ATK and Specialization nodes in Well of Mind, and then it becomes even better once you get FPS later once you're approaching level cap. I was THF using Sneak Attack until I reached the end of Guarda at 50 and felt forced to switch to Fighter for FPS around then because THF simply doesn't get a strong 51-60 skill. You will want to level Priest on MC for cures, too

>>54723 I have 10 lvl 60s which i swap around in main party and 10 lvl 30-40s to be on Dispatch Duty permanently. You shouldn't worry about multiple teams this early. They are only really required to get Dispatch loot. You don't need to get into specific party setups until you hit Abyss 3 which is where shit gets really hard.

>>54664 >>54755 >>54764 I figured, Fighter seems to be overall the best because of how terrible Knight is. Thanks for the confirmation. I don't have access to Priest or Mage yet but I'm looking forward to have something to use my MP on. One other question since I got Kiriha randomly: when Empty Husk says its proc rate increases when wearing no armor, does that mean he has to be actually naked or does it just mean cloth only?

>>54723 It's not so much 'spare parties' but having Mages of different elements for farming different areas (or Old Ruins, which is coming up again), having a couple of each class for Proving Grounds (assuming the pattern holds and you can only enter future ones with 3 of X class, like Fighter) and to swap them when elements aren't favorable, bosses that favor two Priests, having another character to swap in when one dies and has no Fortitude, etc. There is no benefit to a 2nd party on its own. Dispatches are not a big deal.

Abenis is the best fighter right now, but really she's on a fragile throne. The other 2 legendary fighters being dogshit really helped.

>>54883 in a post-Tzalik/Drigga move world, she's gonna get mogged hard when the next fighter/frontliner releases. she'll still be nice for farming at least

>have someone at level 20 from dispatches and the weekly demands one more non-daily request >decide to try the lead exam for them to see if it counts >"Oh yeah, they buffed poison. I wonder if the skeleton is vulnerable" >he takes like 24 damage a turn, meh >he dies to it >this softlocks the game I know poison is usually dogshit when you get to use it in rpgs but this is next level

>>55286 Not a poison, but blood edge was very useful against that fucking doll.

>>55764 Speaking of blood edge, how good is it against abyss 3 gwo? I am about to attempt it but I only have 1 fighter, my good run I was basically out of resource at the end that everyone is just auto attacking so I am raising another fighter to 60. But if you can actually proc blood edge consistently on then gwo then I am going to save my tags.

>>55889 My debra with 210 attack does like a 200dmg bleed per tick

How the FUCK do you get the cursed wheel? Every single guide mention it

>>56014 clear the tutorial once

>>55917 Was more wondering does it actually land cause some boss have thick ass resistances that I don't know if is worth trying to try to cast it

>>56124 I've never seen the debuff miss, just the attack itself. Havent tried it on the gwo though.

>>56124 It worked on the arms. Never tried its body since i set up sneak attack after arms. Probably fine. Worked on doll just fine, and octonarus when i was bond farming. Bleed isnt really resisted that i know of

>Chloroa, uh, my homeland... doesn't exist anymore... Very cool, very nice, Lana.

Sell-buff campaign soon, it's time to Doomp eet.

>>50965 I got some Gandolfos for Heavy Attack(also got lucky and got a WotW) and then got a bunch of Kirihas for discipline

>>50965 D7 Amelia.

>>50965 Gonna hold until the general samurai gets released, unless the pool doesn't update in which case I will still hold

Gave my Chloe some Disciplines. She doesn't get hit anymore except for those random ultra high level mobs from quests like the Gamblers.

Japs are apparently farming junk in the catacombs by going to the locked door, then purposefully selecting the candles in the wrong order to spawn a fight that drops a guaranteed chest. Catacombs are kicking my ass though, so I need to replace debra with someone plus level up some anti undead weapons first. But I'm such a cheapass that I'm waiting until the blacksmith discount. Hopefully it won't get nerfed before then.

>>60844 With all the fights down there that doesn't seem like a super efficient farm, but probably better than sentries that can randomly kill some of your team unless you're whaled out to the max

>>60844 https://x.com/wizdaphnewall/status/1912909752226685306 Here is the spot, kunais can drop too. I guess i'm gonna park there for a few days.

>>61084 >Page doesn't exist I didn't put much attention to it, but to get to this event do you need to beat guarda once right?

>>61135 you need to get the good ending once and do a request to unlock it

>>61135 My bad, should have post the image. And yeah you need the good end for the request to open the place

>>61181 >>61272 Nice, hope you guys get some good loot while it lasts

>>61272 The Japanese translation is kinda iffy, can you just light the wrong candle over and over or do you need to go back to the door every time?

>>61473 I'm farming it now, you can light the candle over and over after you intereact with the door.

>>62021 Thats actually giga bis

>Skeletons in Catacombs are hitting my 190 Eva Chloe ok bro who the fuck tricked me into investing into Eva coin

Is this the correct site? What is its stance on Fishmen?

>>63941 Fishmen are demihuman scum

total fishmen death

>>63941 Total fishmen death

>>63974 I found you guys. Reddit was awful The biggest update in the game an no one was really talking about how Alice just became the best inherit in the game.

>>63941 >Is this the correct site? Indeed. >What is its stance on Fishmen? TOTAL FISH DEATH

You can backtrack up and warp to the zone 3 harkin and travel to the zone 2 fountain to rest without respawning catacomb mobs as well

Got bored of farming garbage junk so I decided to push for the end. I got lucky and got the succ and pixie group for both minibosses so it wasn't too tough. Not the voice I was expecting for Morgus though.

>umbral heavy helm 18 def -2 aspd -2 accuracy 2 evasion 4 res >umbral helm 12 def -1 aspd -2 accuracy -2 evasion 3 res Why the hell does the heavy helm give more evasion than the regular one. Light type ones are the same as well, while other element regular helms start at 4 evasion. Seems like a classic Drecom fuck up.

>spend all jims on abenius (55 pulls) >no abenius im quitting again

>>65481 u rike

>>64111 Is this the power of being on a website not be run on code from the stone age?

>>65481 Time to flip some burgers and roll for more abenius

Is abenius really worth it? How good is she

Ok now this is starting to get fucking out of wack. I wonder how much the buff is in exchange for such fucking insane downsides.

>>65736 She's the best fighter, and I would argue that's even more true if you cannot put any dupes into inherit or discipline, but it's not like she's in some other highest tier. If you feel like you have a good fighter it might be higher value for you to pull on the general fighter banner and get good inherits onto whichever character you do use.

>>65816 I got a single gerulf but thats about it

Feels good, bros.

>>66148 gimme gimme money!

>>65997 I am not a Gerulf enjoyer. He is only worth anything using a two-handed blunt weapon and I just don't think those are worth it. If you don't have this personal draw to Abe for a specific team and strategy you have in your brain, and you aren't drawn to the waifu factor, just skip and use a general adventurer. She isn't good enough for you to make some huge pivot in your playing.

I got a first alice dupe, is it better to inherit to herself or to MC?

Nice to see you guys alive. Still no fairies, so I'm still gem hoarding. How's the thread going so far? Pretty dead or did everyone migrate over safely?

i'm still on tutorial, how the FUCK do you beat helmut

>>66301 first stage of inherit gives an extra turn for everyone, meaning it's really good for pretty much everyone that has effects that last a certain amount of turn, especially other priests/mages, but also good for Knights now You need lvl 3/5/7 on Alice for even more turns, 1/5 on others

>>66525 so using it on herself is only worth if I manage to get what, 3 dupes total to reach lvl 3 on the skill? Meaning my 1 dupe is better used to yek or someone, also why knights?

>>66417 >Be level 18-20 >Roughly +4 on equipment, especially for front line >Sword of the Breeze for your fighter >When he summons rocks, break one of them. It takes like 10 hits or something, the digging tool can do 5 in one turn. He'll step on the rubble and then you right hand it for big damage+stun >Play it extremely safe. Your priest probably won't be able to cast Badios because of topping up health and refreshing defense buffs >minmax your mage as best as you can to make sure you can clear the row of minions he will summon with one ma-spell

>>66417 Well, do you get into the battle with full hit points and magic points? Is your front line equipped with the best equipment (should be bronze tier stuff at this point)? Are you around level 16 and higher (the closer you are to 20, the better, of course)? Are you using the wind blade (Helmut is vulnerable to wind damage)? Are you using buffs and debuffs? Do you have the pickaxe (give it to a front line party member other than the masked adventurer, as they can destroy the rubble in two rounds)? Also, do you have supplementary healing items in case your healer can't heal enough anymore?

>>66417 he's weak to air, if you found the Sword of the Breeze that will be effective against him He loves to fling things at you, so keep accuracy debuffs on him At a certain HP threshold, he'll ram your whole party. He might charge again right after this, so be very careful when going all in on damage as your party probably wont survive a double charge

>>66666 >see repeating digits >reply to post

>>66666 The Number of the BEAST YOU'VE BEEN CURSED

>>66666 Have a good day, mega Satan.

>>66666 John Drecom please release the fairy from the risk safe jail...

>>66554 Anyone?

boioioioioing

>>66328 The thread's overall a bit slower than back on 4chan but at least it's not dead.

>>66554 if you were to use it on herself id use it on discipline or hold until lvl 3, knights can't extend their Knight's Defense anymore, not sure what else they'd use it for

>>66936 If you don't plan to use Alice long term or have other favorite caster/priest then it's better to use her dupe to inherit other character, prioritise MC first though. Since the skill got buffed it affects all active skills and spells (aside from Knight's Defense) so knight's Cover and other tanking skills get extended, help them abit in tanking stuffs.

>>67087 That's multiple reasons, like some anons not knowing that 4chan /vg/ is temporarily here on 8chan, and also perhaps because thread IDs making a few of the low effort shitposters hesitate to dump their usual spiel. Which is a good thing, overall.

>>67240 >temporarily seeing how shit is going on 4chains side, im unsure if it will actually be temporary

>>67172 Is there any resource online to actually know how much a level of discipline increases?I do have 2 alice dupes now but is an extra turn on her really better than an extra turn on 2 whole other allies like yek and someone else

>>67489 go ingame into the inherit skill screen and click Skill Enhancement at the bottom and you can check all your skills and what level does what.

Can you get other encounters than the Necrocore for the candles?

Is an int boon any good on alice? I dumped all her points into speed, dunno if her as a mage is a good option later

>>67536 She makes a good Mage but her Secret Art probably scales off Divine Power, and there isn't much that's weak to Water. Her use as a Mage is for longer debuffs and Cortu than usual, and I'm not sure any of that scales with IQ. You don't want to leave her as Mage because Elf Mage HP is too low. So, IQ boon doesn't do much (neither does Piety really due to soft caps), Speed is a good play with the bonus points

>>67532 There is an easy candle with 2 big slame and 2 fairies >>61272 which the nips are farming.

Is there a way to unlock locked characters in the adventurer log without registering them?

>>67536 Alice's inherit also increases debuff turns, so levels in mage are good. When she's not healing, she should be buffing and debuffing. You do want to end up swapping her back to a priest for the extra hp though.

>>67657 Click the lock

>>67643 I wish I could check if my alice I got when I started had a boon. That is all helpful info though, I am gonna make this IQ boon one my main regardless since she has 100 fortitude atleast (old one is 80) Thank you for the help

So is the best possible marianne a speed boon with all points into speed too then? Or does her getting easy discipline change anything

>>67804 Go to the Class Change menu and subtract 1 stat for each Grade on her Mage stats and you'll know if the old one has a boon or not (supposedly, haven't done it myself)

>>67892 We don't know if Priests will get something that will give them a reason to want more Divine Power/Piety later, they likely will. But for now Speed gives you both needed Evasion and Action Speed. High Discipline devalues everything except LCK AFAIK.

>>68045 It doesnt help because there is no way to tell if a point is from a boon or if I allocated one of the 5 starting points into it sadly

>>65780 How do you revive with zero fortitude if it cant increase when you are dead? Seems this can only be used on the MC. >>65736 She's solid. If she gets Samurai class change she will be amazing. I think the skill changes made her intro attack debuff last longer. It lasts 4 turns at level 3. I am 60% sure it was 2 or 3 turns before.

>>1604 do they let us use japanese voice with english text yet?

>>68093 Luck Priests endgame meta

>>68413 doesnt she already have priest as her second class?

>>68565 Not yet sadly.

>>61272 Junk rate is still abysmal sitting here and autobattling this over and over. I really don't like how every new place is worse to farm than the last

>>69093 Surely it can't be worse than running around in guarda since you have a guarantee chest spawn on it right

>>69118 I only get junk once every 5 chests or so, at least in Guarda you can just reset the Zone 10 Harken until 1-2 chests spawn and they'll have junk most of the time

>>68772 Pure hopium for me that she will get 2nd class change when samurai comes out. The reveal her class change was priest is still disappointing.

gwos how do you guys feel about the skill update cause I am a bit conflicted. I am investing everything into making mega Savia at the moment so this is good for me because when I play rpgs I almost never swap out party members, but I imagine most people do especially in blobbers. In the future when everyone invested tons of shit into their current party I feel is basically impossible for new characters to compete unless they specifically have very unique or extremely broken interaction. On one hand I love sticking with my original party through the entire game but on the other I don't know how others feel cause I imagine some autist be upset when they get their new drigger elf that they need to spend 2000 dollars again to "leve" her back up.

>>69093 After an hour here I agreed, they also drop only 3* so it's mostly meh. Though I have a better shot of getting kunai here than bashing my head against those cyclops so I guess i'm staying for a while.

>>69118 The junk quality is awful, the majority of it is that 6% chance for a 3 star garbage and I didn't see any fey drops(other than the one guaranteed in the chest behind the locked door) at all after doing it for an hour.

>>69287 Or they give us some way to farm skill exp, or the power creep will go to the moon, and with tzalik and drigger i'd bet on the latter.

>>69287 I am just hoarding $Mariannecoin and 70k gems instead of interacting with these systems, as usual. I feel like doing something irreversible before it is absolutely required to progress is a mistake, as a guppy ($8 spent). We just don't know what the eventual bottleneck will be or what powercreep will look like, other than seeing drigger and TZALIK-man start to rev it up.

>>67423 I wouldn't mind staying here, if the thread itself stays here. It's comfy.

>Not a single piece of gear worth going to +15 pain

anyone know if you can wheel or trigger more corrosion sentries after delivering the evidence for the true ending to make the gwo fight easier?

Did anyone get any alternate inherits with their mausoleum bones? There's no drop rates to check so I was wondering if they were nice enough to update them to make it possiblewho am I kidding lol

Lmao, this is one of the blessings available for guarda

>>69691 I actually procrastinated the class specific bone farming until after the update, didn't get any rare inherits, so it's either low/not possible or I am a huge lucklet.

>>69686 You can just adjust them and warp straight to floor 10 to deliver the evidence again, you don't lose it once you have it. D level is the minimum for true ending I believe

>>69691 Do they have special indicators

>>65780 I like the legalese flavor of the description

>>69871 They will have a small golden glowing icon on their banner in the gacha roll screen/skill inherit skill screen afaik.

>>69938 Oh found them, all I have sadly, no fighters

Is there a faster way to find ugo in the ship other than wander around. Can I just go up and down ladder and pray he appears? He's only in ship level 2 right or can he be in any part of the ship.

>>70314 I think I found him on one, you only have to find and buy something from him once though, each subsequent time he'll automatically show up at ricken's shop once you wheel to the end.

true ending done not sure if there's another guiding light for doing it on all three routes, but if there isn't I'm done with the content for now

>>70424 oh thank fucking god I was going to give up if I have to go through this shit every time. On the first run though after I find him can I just wheel straight to after I beat the gwo or do I have to go through the chain again? Or can I only wheel forward on runs after the first? I don't want to run through this ship again but I don't want to go through gwo if I can help it.

Finally done right before rerun

>>70469 First time: do request, send to rickard, find him, buy something(might not be necessary), wheel to return to capital, tp to b1,get bondmate repeating: wheel to rickard's shop, go up to 2f, go back down and tp to town, get request, do request, wheel to end, get bondmate, repeat

>>70424 I just tried it and yeah I didn't have to beat them up again, thanks gwo

I tried farming Kunais in the catacombs but its extremely cancer. jesus. The volume is mobs is fucking insane.

>>70646 Yeah it's terrible. I tried the candle trick and it's still a huge pain to farm unless you're a leviathan with hyper-invested units. It really seems like F2 of the ship is still the only worthwhile farming spot in the game right now. Everything else requires way too much attention or way too much investment.

I can't help but think that, during the extra treasures in chests event, that junk dropped less often, and in less quantity.

>>71088 I'd recommend anyone to just get the good ending of Guarda to get another dispatch that can give decent equipment and then just send two of the 20 hour dispatches every day Farming Guarda is just too annoying, I'd rather wait for new content or events

is the game good

>>71694 I like it a lot, especially at the start it's just a good dungeon crawler that doesn't even feel like a typical gacha/mobile game You can do pretty much all content F2P as most of the power is in equipment (though that can be a huge grind admittedly) I wish there were any dungeon crawlers coming out at this quality or better without any gacha bs, but I'll take what I can get

>>71088 >it's still a huge pain to farm unless you're a leviathan with hyper-invested units. I'm all D0 with no Light gear and it's fine, just a little dicey on the way out to rest after healing is all dried up. You get so dirty that you'll get ambushed and killed so you have to clear the miniboss in front of Morgus' door and leave that way.

>>66558 >>66584 >>66666 Thanks for the replies. I'm finally done with this fucker, had to die a lot and waster 100 gem on revives to figure out you don't have to destroy the rock and the strat is actually to leave one shitter alive in front so his back to back so ram only does half damage. Goddamn I can't believe this is just the tutorial.

>>72922 Tip, you can just wait for the flames to regen if you don't accept your death and just leave it there for 2 hours. Also if it's the first Helmut fight... good luck bro.

>>72922 >100 gem on revives Anon, I...

>>72922 >100 gem on revives

>>72922 congratulations, don't waste your gems in on revives in the future. hope you enjoyed the execution

>>73214 >>73673 I did like 3 refreshes of flames glitching through proving grounds and it was fucking worth it because the day after they patched that shit

>>71088 >ship its just steel tier tho

>farm LIGHT IT for hours >get only 5 junks capable of giving kunai >they're diluted by having the entire ebonsteel pool Uh yeah don't do this for kunai. I would have got 4 Shinobi junks from Zone 10 by now and they don't have ebonsteel eating your chance of kunai/covert

If I want to farm cyclop underwear, you need to have a fully level ninja right to dispell the attack buff right or is aids

>>74089 Farm by volume, you get 10x more junk on boat than on guarda, yeah it's steel but for armor/accs it doesn't matter that much. Unless you are trying to farm for ninja gear, then you are just fucked and banished to the cyclops rape dungeon,

>>74196 Supposedly, but everytime he casts it for me he immediately gets another turn to smack me.

>>74228 he always casts the concentration buff at an hp threshold so control your dps a bit maybe

>>74196 I would say it's not worth doing at all, you simply need high Discipline and skill levels to kill quickly enough in proportion to the abysmal drop rate. Not to mention that it's not worth going for until you have +20 of basically everything else because it's not that good in the first place unless you megaluck into a red 5* or something. >>74228 The cyclops attack buff is triggered from half HP or something, you want it set up so after your FPS or TZALIK or whatever goes off, the ninja is taking its turn before the cyclops goes again. That being said, you can dispel the buff and he can bug out and hit you for 1000 damage anyway, I never figured out why and it happened enough times that I stopped bothering.

>>67240 >temporarily I'm not going back bros, this is way comfier >>69287 It's meh. Level 2 skills still seem to suck ass and the droprates of the new inherits is lower than legendary adventurers so effectively nothing changed for me.

Why do daggers do 1 damage with regular attacks despite showing like 42 in the menu? Swords hit properly

>>74483 enemy has high defense or you're using 'em on someone with low dex or whatever Nimble strike scales on

>>74483 Your damage is reduced by enemy defense/2 before other modifiers, so because daggers have lower base damage it's harder for them to break through enemy defense. They need you to stack +ATK more than any other weapon type.

>>74506 using them on frontline arboris at like level 30ish, his dex is way higher than his str, should I just use swords anyways if im gonna frontline him?

>>74516 Yeah, or backline him behind MC and give him a bow. If you wanted to play him like a regular THF you could use daggers with Sneak Attack which ignores Defense and distance, but with Arboris, just use him as a tactical nuke until he's out of SP

>bulk extracting anything below the best tier I can currently farm (steel) unless it's a purple 4* >bulk selling anything below steel if it's mundane unless it's at least 4* >still at 455/500 inventory used how the fuck, I don't have nearly that much junk lying around... do I? How do you guys cope with this?

>>75020 Just buy inventory space gaijin.

>>75020 -2000 gems anon, do it.

>>75020 time to start purging those 4*s...

Do an melee units ever learn an AOE or is that reserved for mages

>>75630 There are no melee AoEs that I know of, and the only non-magic one that comes to mind is Ninja can hit 3 enemies at once with throwing weapons.

I keep seeing people say to "not use the inn" or "use fountains to rest" when ur powerleveling a char but why dont they just tell you to not use the grade up button yet? Or does tha character not gain exp until the level cap was raised for them?

>>75870 I've never seen someone say that, it was always "Don't uncap, and send people to the dispatch mines for 2 weeks"

>>75912 I feel like I still havent figured out any good dispatches at my leve

You get a decent one at abyss 2, and a GIGA one at abyss 3 when you kill the necrocore and get the harken at 4f. It's the 2 people max with the EXP tag on them.

>>76014 Port Town: Plea! Sailor Monster Extermination -12 hours. Keep the leveling unit locked at level 20 and send them with someone who is already leveled. You want them to travel 3 times from dispatch results. There is one for next town but I believe you want to be capped at level 30.

>>75870 That's for MC.

>>76146 3 times the full 12 hour dispatch? for what, why 3 times specifically

>>76461 in the report you'll ideally see the party traveled 3 times giving the lower level adventurer 100k exp per travel.

>>76461 If you click on report when your dispatch comes back, you can see how often your party went out on that dispatch, 3 is the maximum and what you'll usually get if you send someone at level cap + someone at 20/30 on these dispatches, this maximizes the exp for the unit you want to level If you put decent equipment on them you can probably level two characters at the same time, but what exactly affects dispatch success other than character level is kind of nebulous

>>76461 When you check the results you can see how many trips they took and success/fail of them. 3 is the max at this time. So you can have a Success with only one trip for 70k exp and a success with 70k for all 3 trips for 210k exp.

>get to guarda f5 >gorgons are pretty nasty enemies but its doable >have to gather some food for the princess to feed my new loli >random gorgon + minotaur fight in the western cave is the tankiest shit of all time and can one shot frontliners pretty sure we could seal all the abysses and this world would still be fucked thanks to random caves like this or the fire dragon cave

>>76783 >Stone breath >Stone breath >Stone breath I still can't kill the gorgon boss there, that fucker has gorillions of hp.

>>76977 do you have to kill the gorgon boss to complete the quest?

>>77281 Pretty sure you can either choose to fight the boss or take the pussa route and farm the regular ones

>>77281 No, he's only there to kill the illiterate. He's our friend, like Hitler.

What determines how often you get the Ambush/Plead/Flee options when you encounter enemies?