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SJWs taken over Wizards of the Coast/Magic: the Gathering Veteran Leader 09/14/2016 (Wed) 19:57:01 Id: dfeb6e No. 327982
Thread created for the (reasonable) overlap of video game enthusiasts who also commonly engage in cardflopping and dicechucking, and "our usual suspects" infecting a parallel industry >Chris Kluwe chosen as brand representative at PAX >getting a Hasbro representative on plebbit to denounce a fan channel that's been making videos promoting product for free for four years the guy could use support and awareness(positive attention) and /tg/ nerds could use our experience in dealing with the narrative spin as they get bullied in the coming months MTGHeadQuarters https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIIeZClsD9f0KlRsT1CBpDw
>>328020 The fuck are you talking about? WotC, while it is 100% in the shitter, has been using many of the same artists for years now. Mirage and Visions had an Africa-like setting, but that is literally the only thing I think you could be thinking of, and that was 20 years ago. regarding MTG, I think the "WAAAAHHH WE NEED MUH DIVERSITEES" is fucking retarded, because this a game with literally any god damned race of whatever you can think of. Four separate races of blue people. Fish people. Squid people. White people. REALLY white people. Black people. Entire god damned sets based around Asian culture. It all goes to show how fucking stupid SJW's are. As another side note, fuck TCGPlayer for throwing Ali Aintrazi under the bus for making one off color remark to a "woman" who looks like Barney fucking Rubble. If you haven't already, find their statement regarding Ali Aintrazi, and blow their shit up about how you're taking your business elsewhere.
Well shit, and I was going to head down and buy the 5e D&D Player's Handbook because the Penny Arcade games had managed to get me interested enough to want to join in. But I guess it looks like Wizards don't want money from people like me, so good luck to them with alienating their core demographic. Let's see how that plays out.
>>328048 Better you don't play 5E in general. Look at games made by un-cucked developers.
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Ok, I have a general idea what's going on here and even though I didn't play the game for for over 15 years I would like to help him. What I still don't understand is, what he wants us to do when he asks for ppl to write to Hasbro and WOTC. What am I going to tell them? Don't be so PC? After all their main consumers are children and he is kind of an edgelord so I understand when they don't want to be associated with his comments.
OP, this is not new and has been going on since the early 2000s, see the change in direction of D&D game design and setting writing.
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>>328048 5e itself is fine, the only remotely SJW thing in the entirety of my Player's Handbook PDF is an unnecessary vocalization to the house-rule of "be whatever you want to be" which is already fairly grey on its stance given that it backs shit up if you want to play as an elven hermaphrodite or whatever, and there's no guarantee within the passage you'll be accepted because you identify as stardust. Give credit where it's due, people.
>>328058 If that is 5e, everything after the first sentence in that pic is fucking cancerous. If there is any doubt, the second paragraph confirms it for me. It reads like a problem glasses PR asshole trying to do the moralizing s/h/it scam has infected the writing team and it crossed the line from talking about -your character- to the player themselves. >But the last sentence clarifies that it's still just talking about your player character tho Which is a bullshit fig leaf. The socjus scam and racketeering grift should be familiar by now. EVERYTHING IS SEXIST AND RACIST AND X-PHOBIC! Especially you mysogynerds, you are all sexist racists -phobic! Thankfully we are now here to correct that inequality! If you gib us money and give us cushy jobs, your businesses and studios will be CONpliant with the current year standard of morality and history!
>>328058 Slider spotted
>>328058 It's not in the Players' Guide, numbnuts. Check the Dungeon Masters Guide for all the SJW training you'll ever need, from how to railroad campaigns to forcing diversity on players. >>328062
>>328033 >Is a Trump presidency really gonna save us from this madness? Hopefully, but I have a feeling that Trump getting elected will make SJWs furious and become even more dedicated to doing their bullshit, managing to make things worst. And seeing how Trump wants to bring jobs back to America and SJWs are basically America's equivalent of Chinese sweatshops (one of the reasons they get hired in the comic industry for example is they work for peanuts and don't care about things like Creator's Bill of Rights), so Trump getting elected might cause there to be even more SJWs in the workforce. Hopefully I'm wrong though.
>>328043 Fucking Burch & Wesley are already in MTG I told you its clique as fuck already
>>328066 That is very possible, but there is always a tipping point. Whether that will happen through more customers saying enough and voting with their wallet, or something in the culture changes. It's possible that the reason socjus is doubling down so hard is because they know a tipping point might be close. >>328044 >The biggest risk is the fact that /tg/ thinks they're safe, outside of their dev's being fully subverted and all that's left is for the harpies to start using those games as a vector to infect FLGSes. >/tg/ won't see it until they start getting banned for growing a beard or letting their legs be open enough to not crush their balls. Agreed, /tg/ need to only look at what happened to n.american comics for the "what's the worst that can happen?" scenario. Pozzed as fuck, too many of their fans got cucked and converted to defeatist drones, the bigger studios became an IP farm and bad tumblr tier art asylum, and smaller studios or 'indies' are nothing more than bluehair problem glasses clique controlled fake alternative, the same way walking sims are in vidya. So what can be done to fight the cancer, and does fa/tg/uys need an assist from GG.
>>328048 Then just get the PDFs for free and see if you like it without paying them. Tabletop games operate under a completely different set of rules and if you're willing to just deal with a PDF (or hell, print out a PDF) then you can play the game, enjoy it, and not support the developers at all If you end up changing your mind then you can turn around and buy something, that's generally how the industry works. Plus tabletop games are not video games, you don't have to take everything from the book verbatim and are free to pick and choose, change or remove, to suit your style of play so it's VERY common practice to just ignore a developer's political posturing or weird fetish shit. Not even sure how many actual fa/tg/uys are here but don't take advice on tabletop games from people who don't play them.
>>328020 Mirage wasn't done by SJW you fucking retard.
>>328072 > Then just get the PDFs for free and see if you like it without paying them. That's not going to fix the problem. The SJWs are making money doing this, which makes them more powerful. They are making more money the more non-SJWs they kick out. By controlling WotC they control the tournament scene and can demand the removal of their trademark from any tournament. Given their market power they also control distribution channels because they can threaten to boycott any distributor who does not close the market to a competitor whose political views they don't like, and the distributor is forced to choose between putting small non-SJW shops out of business or going out of business themselves. That has already happened to the guy who made the Gamergate card game.
>>328074 And you wanna know why SJWs are infiltrating subcultures, right? To control the population! That's what! Keep people divided. Anywhere a alphabet soup goes, causes nothing more than the destruction of any social structure.
I remember back in '09 or so on /tg/ we were laughing about Stormfront threads trying to stat out ethnicities in d20. Now you can hear sphincters clench when someone includes a black NPC in an England-esque fantasy setting. There's a strong element of escapism in many games. If someone wants to play a tranny halfling, they should be allowed to as long as you don't squick out the rest of the players. Really, most GMs are big boys and a drop of tumblr in your manual isn't going to ruin anything for anyone. These things can't be enforced. Heaps of groups online eRP with their futa elves and halfling traps because the players never have to make eye contact or hear each other breathe heavily between dice rolls, and hell, let 'em.
>>328066 >>328071 >socjus v Trump Don't sjws know that the further they push the pendulum one way, the further it swings back the other.
>>328073 Pretty sure >>328020 wasn't talking about Mirage, the "fantasy Africa" setting, but Theros, aka. "it's like Ancient Greek/Roman Mythology, except everyone are politically correct niggers". Incidentally, both expansion blocks were some of the lowest-selling sets in Magic(the lowest being Homelands, which was just lazy and uninspired designing). The loss in sales may be a factor in the sudden shift back to plundering their more popular older settings (Zendikar & Innstrad) instead of their stated credo of introducing "new and diverse" settings.
>>328048 Requesting bigger version of this pic if anyone's got it.
>>328113 Fuk I should read the whole thread first
Video in the OP is horrifying. SJWs are complete fucking monsters. There is nothing too immoral or criminal for them to do in their lust for power. Went and pirated some 5e manuals. Spread them far and wide to spit in WotC's SJW eye. Grab them before some commie faggot flags my MEGA account because I questioned xir evil religion. https://mega.nz/#F!B9tkRYYB!ZnnJ6pkLjqCdqT7BRTM3Dw
>>328048 >>328049 It's called the System Reference Document–basically the game mechanics with all the fluff and propaganda stripped out. You should be able to download it all for free online, maybe /tg/ or even /v/ can assist with that.
>>328110 Huh, this is the first I'd heard that about Theros. The loss in sales also could have been due to Theros being uninspired as fuck, and Born of the Gods having been a festering pile of donkey dicks.
>>328022 What's wrong with this illustration? I showed it to one of my SJW friends who got triggered by that Batgirl cover last year, and even she was fine with it, because the woman in the picture is angry, defiant, and fighting back. >>328058 Can't find anything so wrong with this either, don't go getting triggered by something so minor that isn't out of place. >>328065 >Check the Dungeon Masters Guide for all the SJW training you'll ever need, from how to railroad campaigns to forcing diversity on players Screencaps plz
>>328123 It is a man attempting kill a seemingly helpless woman. Except shes not helpless shes fucking Lilianna. The woman who literally has negative souls. That's right! Selling her soul just once wasn't enough so she did it FIVE FUCKING TIMES. But only people who play Magic and know who this cunt is know that.
>>328020 The biggest MtG faggot I ever knew knows Valkenburger. What does that tell you.
>>328110 >>328121 >Incidentally, both expansion blocks were some of the lowest-selling sets in Magic Except Theros was the best selling MtG set. It was only surpassed by Khans (an actual good set).
>>328156 Khans wasn't bad, but fucks sake, I hated the setting.
>>328156 That's a funny way of saying "Return to Ravnica".
>>328123 >Screencaps plz Because you clearly won't be satisfied even if we spoonfeed the goddamn evidence, have the whole thing because fuck WotC: https://mega.nz/#F!B9tkRYYB!ZnnJ6pkLjqCdqT7BRTM3Dw Have fun with that. >>328156 >Theros was the best shilled MtG set. Fixed that for you, We never wanted that pandering to progressives shit, we wanted more Ravnica for years. >an actual good set Yeah, so good no one talks about the setting months after.
>>328237 RtR was like having nice warm happy memories of something, and then seeing all of it raped to death by jihadifag dune coons.
>>328283 I'm not sure how making shit up about Theros being one of the "lowest-selling sets" helps anyone. It sold very well. It was THE best selling set when it was in standard. It sucks but denying reality won't change that.
>>328295 And what I'm asking for is hard numbers… something WotC has kept suspiciously under wraps.
>>328058 >Changing the art to make it friendly to younger audiences >Desexualizing creatures as much as possible >Claiming to call for AD&D fags It's small now, yes, but it's a foothold, and they'll use it to fuck up shit further down the road.
>>328300 >WotC, actual numbers… >Never released the full disclosure for D&D edition wars >But we sold good niggas! We sold best and all projections were gold! Now let's conveniently ignore all the things and go back to the old fans! They are never going to release shit because they're still experimenting to see just how much they can get away with. Magic is just the most adequate place for it because they have a large captive audience willing to buy anything related to it.


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