>>3 Carthage or Carthagenova?

But we're discussing public sewage systems!

>>5 Both would be preferable. >>6 You see, the time we are using talking about shitters could be used to muster new troop with wich to raze the punic's shitty city.

I find it vaguely funny that Hannibal is so well known despite the fact that he technically lost the war. you would think the Roman who beat him would be more well remembered but nope.

>>14 Eh, id say scipio is quite famous compared to other roman generals, i mean go ask around if anyone knows flavius or bellisarius.

>>16 titus is obviously the most famous >"i want to destroy the jews and their stupid temple fuck you jews" - titus

>>14 He was a great warrior and general who drove terror into the heart of the Romans for a decade and a half, while the only real resistance the Romans could put up until Scipio was the Fabian strategy. That's what makes him battle-famed.

>>33 Also because he was obsessed with elephants.

>>35 Elephants were the f-35s of the ancient world.

>>3 >All Brujah present make a frenzy check.

>>14 It was the closest the seemingly invincible Roman Empire had come or would come to actual meaningful defeat in a very, very long time. That's why Carthage was completely razed after the Punic wars, because there was no way in hell they were going to take a chance with the Carthaginians again.

>>14 He was more impressive by comparison, given the sheer amount of Romans he killed during the 2nd Punic War. Cannae in particular has been studied to death by historians and generals. >>36 More like T-34s, if they had a soul. Also muh f35 bad meme, lol.