really wish ktm 690 supermoto was avaliable here fuck ktm fuck this coutry fuck everybody

>>7823 Why the KTM hate ? I haven't driven the new ones but they were pretty decent a decade ago. Anyway, new the enduro and maverick would be out of anon's budget.

>>7824 Mvrivk is like 1.85 lad Hating ktm for not bringing 690 supermoto here

>>7826 Austrian govt is working with India on a deal for more important and manufacturing. It would make KTM bikes cheaper and we would get higher end models too. I would like that too. But Indian babu's ! Who fucking knows how long they delay things, until their relative gets a scholarship or or gets a paid vacation etc. I am also curious to try the new Enfields. Esp the Guerrilla 450. Its design doesn't look attractive, but is good for Indian roads and conditions. Low riders on Indian roads are a bad idea.

whats new in automobike world this month

>>7933 Maruti feonx looks good. Haven't seen reviews

>>7933 The usual suspects launch generic SUV rehash #65535 for current styling trend, this time with even stupider design choices and even more spyware to make it feel more like your mobile phone. Actually no, the Mahindra roxx looks good. >>7936 14 year old me hated Maruti but now i like it

>>7954 Maruti's biggest strength was ease of serviceability. I found parts outside of Tawang in Arunachal , in the middle of a storm. This was an 800, that was not mine. Then there was a Swift. Going to rent a car for few days and go into Poland for sometime off. Electrics are being promoted right now, but I want to try an Audi. Lets see if the premium is worth it.

https://odysee.com/car-companies-are-selling-your-personal#a074c92e96a5e64a830cc79c7db3c1e92205c8d9 They do this in India too. Gadkaris GPS tags will allow companies to supercharge this

I have had time to think about this. There are cars I think I would like, then in practice, I don't enjoy driving them. About me - I don't like loud cars or motorcycles. I don't want to wake up my parents when I come home or make a statement. I do like feeling the gear change so ofcourse, mannual gear drive for me. I do like a moderately powerful engine, it is useless in cities but very useful outside especially in sand. I also prefer higher ground clearwnce because Indian roads. I thought I would enjoy EV's, since they are quiet and powerful, but I don't. They are more of toys, like smartphones. Most cars that I miss are simple machines. They do one job and do it well. And don't pretend to do anymore. Repairing or servicing these cars is easy too , as is using them. They also don't cost as much as luxury cars.

>>7997 Literally the best car I can think of is a simple sedan or hatchback that is cheap and reliable enough to run daily, but also have enough power. >They are more of toys, like smartphones. It's weird I spend the day working in front of a screen I come home and spend much of the rest of the day on the screen Last thing I want is another big huge screen shoved in my face. I don't like thier childish user interfaces and buggy code, tracking, backdoors. Small monochrome or 7 seg screens to show the radio station were fine because they were very functional, easy to read and not distracting at all.

Gadkari is shilling his way into 15% ethanol in diesel. Although I need to read more about it, first thing I think worry about is the high pressure injection pump in diesel engines They're built to very tight tolerances and probably won't like ethanol infused diesel. (Diesel also works as a lubricant in those pumps) One of the reasons why diesel in a petrol car is just a matter of draining the tank and cranking the diesel out of the fuel lines, while petrol in a diesel engine is a costly affair

>>8137 Diesel was always a mistake and it was pushed on us by Europeans who wanted to get rid of their excess stock. There are ways to phase it out. But this ethanol plan is retarded in every way. I don't see any sense in it at all.

>>8155 If you say this because of the pollution thing that's just not relevant. Diesels have marginally higher NOx, sulphur and PM emissions but they fixed it in bs6 with their particulate filter and catalytic thing (adblu) also to push the blame of le pollution on random citizens is stupid. Trucks, coal fired power plants, industries, stubble burning and marine engines they account for a large, large percentage of air pollution. Diesel will be truly dead when all trucks run on CNG and the government removes subsidies and stars taxing diesel like they do with petrol. Not that I want it to happen. If a car runs well, keep it running. Pretending to care about the environment to kill off perfectly working cars is criminal. They (government, auto industry) do it for the money, if you haven't seen the pattern yet.

>>8156 Diesel pollutants are particularly notorious and have serious health concerns. Don't believe the filter bullshit, car companies push lot of money in Germany to suppress studies. It is a citizen issue if everyone does it and if it harms everyone. They should just have let diesel cars die natural deaths and stop registering new Diesel or ban their sale/manufacture. > Pollution Fully agree. We just need to take care of stubble burning and stop with the GMO and 3 crops a year nonsense. This is a deeply frustrating thing where govts refuse to put their foot down. The rest is all noise. < CNG I have terrible experience with CNG, so kind of biased against it. Car with CNG can barely climb a small hill, let alone intense driving. Fully agree that impounding good cars does more harm to the environment than letting them run when the harm is marginal. > Back to Gadkari Un necessary intervention does more harm than no intervention. There should be an award for people who do good by doing nothing. Cops who let street justice happen, judges who keep their mouth shut , doctors who don't prescribe medicine for no reason etc. Gadkari doesn't belong to that group. He should have used his brain somewhere else. The GPS project he is pushing is just expensive surveillance.

Anyone who says they hate good interiors and smooth rides, is a liar. Plus Interiors and excellent suspension is worth it if you drive a lot. The issue is, a lot of luxury cars - Use exotic parts i.e. maintenance takes a long time in India and parts take time to come. - They break down since they are not designed for India. India only makes things for middle class and lower class. India hates people with wealth. So owning a luxury car in India quickly becomes a pain. Best is to get a good performing car and spend money on interiors instead.

>>8250 MS finally accepted that the market is moving and moved accordingly. Competitors need to worry a little now. For many years they touted their safety ratings and people also started caring about those. Now they have lost this edge. >>8169 >Use exotic parts i.e. maintenance takes a long time in India and parts take time to come You don't even need to go full luxury car for this to happen. Any European company will suffice in giving you this experience. Euros design such parts that are so complicated to make and so expensive to stock, they are only made in some European factory and stocked only by them. So if some precision part in your Volkswagen TSI engine fails, you have to wait a month+ after your dealer orders the component. >They break down since they are not designed for India Only true for things like low profile tyres and suspension components. Despite how much we like to say "we Indians" and think the country is somehow different from others and very special, that is not the case. It's hot, but cooling systems are designed with a big factor of safety, and we aren't the only hot country in the world that those cars are sold in. It's dusty, but air filters can just be changed more frequently. It floods often but you should not be wading in waist deep water with your hatchback regardless of the make and model of it. As for the suspension components, they also need to be replaced some ~60k km, not talking about the struts, just the bushings and control arms. Use rated oils and coolants and go to competent mechanics. As for "modifications" letting 14 year old chhotu from local accessories shop near your car with his pair of pliers and insulation tape is also a bad idea regardless of brand. Its saddening to see so many retards on youtube glorify le Karol Bagh accessories shops. The only real issue is fuel quality. If you use bad fuel in a normal (non turbo/non direct injection) petrol car, worst case scenario your injectors and fuel pump goes bust. If you drive some turbo petrol or turbo diesel they do not like bad fuel at all, expensive components can and will fail because they were designed for Euro VI super clean fuel but you filled up at a shady HP petrol pump in the middle of nowhere run by some village strongman.

>>8260 German love for complication is legendary. The stories I have ! I agree with a lot of what you said, but some points you miss. > Deviation in values of single parts are not a big deal on their own. > Deviation in values of parts within a system lead to system being unreliable > Indian roads are much hotter than the average atmospheric temperature as is the air near the road. Many a times parts reach values of 60°C + inside the car or under it. > Lot of certified repair centres install used parts and keep the new parts for themselves < European cars suck now. VW especially. You are spot on about fuel. Outside big cities, everything you get is absolutely mixed. The ethanol idea of gadkari will lead to further issues. Many issues with electrics but at least they don't have these issues.

man nigga fuck this shit, i just keep forgetting stuff at kalej, few days ago i forgot my specs, now i forgot my mobile charger, how do i cope with such loss bros/

>>8270 found it kek

>>8270 >>8274 I am anal about having specific pockets and spaces in backpack, jacket etc. Else I am forgetful this way. Head is lost in thoughts.

I fully forgot about this site. Good to see thread is alive. Ktm finally laucnhed their big bikes in india. Although, just 1390 and 990 models and many dirts too but they are pricey. Unfortunately they missed out on 690 supermoto. Which is my abslolute fabourite. I dont even like 1390. Furthermore, 990 RC, which isnt just based on super duke chassis but developed from top to bottom as seperate product, did not arrive. Honda launched a v3 engine. Its p-twin at front and 1 at the back . Its 75 degree without any intercooler. Yes and its a high revving engine which will be put into sport bike. Reckon they could also use it in Afrika twin as it used to be V-twin initially. It has forced induction too. Electric compressor is sucking air in. Which may or may not help cool the engine. Tho, it imprives low torque, now you see why i think it may go in Afrika twin KTM has also showcased their 390 Enduro, adv, een SMC at EiCMA. Lineup doesnt just look like its moded 390 but the chassic has enough agility to provide different character. Enfield lauched the classic 650. Cherry Red look with hand lettering on tank is a must. Updated RS3 which is a sedan broke M2 ring record by 5 second. Hopefully, bmw learn their lesson LFA has successor, LFA but a v8 and doesnt sound anywhere as good vette c06 did the ring in 7,10,51 which is very disapointing Jaguar has stopped selling cars anywhere. Readying to go electric fully whcih is disapointing in many way. The new XJ sucessor was spotted testing. The new 992.2 T will be manual only. Thinking most Ts sold are manual which makes me happy

>>8293 I remember being this enthusiastic about automobiles, it is a distant memory, looks like i am very old now

>>8298 I used to buy those auto magazines in the days when these things were more common than a decent internet connection. >>8293 The Enduro 390 makes lot of sense for touring in Indian conditions. Someone I used to work with had a 690 and used it to do cross country tours. The enfield linterceptor looks incredible in chrome finish ! It is really popular here too and the price isn't too bad. But changing to winter types is an added expense and right now the recession is looking hardcore already. > Jaguar The re branding has been a disaster. Not that the company was doing too well, their market reputation has suffered heavily and tata already poached their best engineers.

>>8318 Wrong pic

Cities other than delhi, comparable in area, have a comparable number of vehicles, but no smog issue. Bangalore for example now has more vehicles than Delhi. I have not been able to find out conclusive answer as to why, but one of the answers is just the general geography of the region. The 10/15 year rule is not primarily aimed at reducing pollution, the point is to reduce the number of cars on the road. It's unfair because only poor people who cannot afford to buy new cars will suffer, but it seems to be working. They can't just outright say their motives to our face but this is what it is. Apparently a good portion of the smog comes from brake and road dust (tyre wear). Most publications seem not to be blaming the stubble burning. I am not sure if this is the reality or if they just want to act woke and not blame the farmers, but the odd/even rule seemed to have worked when it was implemented so it could be true. Delhi just like most metro cities is overcrowded as h*ck, Delhi is taking the right steps in trying to reduce the number of cars from the road. Where it does lack, is giving the citizens and alternative. Delhi doesn't have enough buses per statistics, and I personally don't know how effective the metro project is. People will curse and swear at expensive cars, taxes, 10/15 years, odd even, but in the end they will buy cars because there is no option. Maybe they will buy a bike, but it will still be a motor vehicle. If they splurge on public transport and good, safe, maintained cycle paths, with robust campaigns that will encourage people to use these. And simultaneously make it a little more harder to own cars (very phased manner) it will eventually probably work out. It's best to have extensive women-only public transport because women might understandably not want to use a cycles. It's not like I want them to outright ban car ownership but if people just stopped taking cars to daily commutes and take out vehicles for just the weekends, even that is going to be a big help. It needs more effort than a half hearted effort though. It might seem impossible, but it's really not. I'm thinking it's just red tape. They built an automobile-dependent city and now want to reduce the number of cars, maybe if they started to slowly convert it to a cycle centric city it would help. Dutch people are doing really well with their bikes arent they? (I had written out a long essay about Delhi smog, but I don't want to post the entire thing here.)

As things should be.. Ferrari's roma successor looks like a front engine race car over a GT >>8318 idk lad how long you've been living in germany, but road conditions arent as bad as they were in 2005 although, I like the capital GU in branding. If they had kept the cat purring and made it as they as they wanted, people would have let go of wokeness cherry caught mine https://youtu.be/c-X9tx23i68?si=TFi4c1DBiUBGzPHF&t=247

>>8320 Top causes 1. Crop burning at the particular time when Delhi has a low pressure formation. 2. Dust from construction 3. Traffic mainly diesel 2.5 Odd even did not work man. The data was clear. That said, I am for making bicycle lanes, introducing e bikes and taxing big vehicles more. Chintu Bittu don't need to burn petroleum to eat their chole bhature. They are fat enough as it is, more importantly, that oil has better uses for industry and agri in producing fertilizers. I don't like banning cars in general though, but walkable cities with mass transit and bike lanes are much better. I am sure there is a way to transition to this. So I agree with your solution, just not the problem itself. Fuck Kejriwal man. Delhi has a much better bus system before. Now it has only metro. Rage driving is at all time high. Will check videos later. The Enfield looks amazing. > Note of Ferrari's Italians have insane pride in the work they do. It is really worth emulating. I really hope Indians learn from it and work hard and work with pride, to make something their own.

A well-known motorcycle manufacturer is facing bankruptcy. The Austrian motorcycle manufacturer KTM AG announced that it will file for bankruptcy on Friday and initiate a self-administration restructuring process. The parent company Pierer Industrie AG is also undergoing restructuring. Sales in Europe and the USA are significantly below the company's expectations. Production now needs to be adjusted to demand in order to reduce inventory. Hundreds of jobs will be cut by the beginning of 2025.

>>8268 How did I miss this post. Shit. >Deviation in values of parts within a system lead to system being unreliable The systems are largely unrelated, the drivetrain for example functions completely separately from the suspension and the steering systems, and if one of these fails it >> Indian roads are much hotter than the average atmospheric temperature as is the air near the road. Many a times parts reach values of 60°C + inside the car or under it Tarmac gets very hot and engineers know this. As I said these cars are sold in countries as hot as ours or maybe even hotter. They are designed to withstand these temperatures. With a big factor of safety. Also, on-road real world testing does exist, companies test these things extensively. The snake oil salesman of a CEO of Tesla decided to install an large industrial grade display in the middle of the dashboard. Industrial grade not automotive because back then it wasn't such a big trend to have a large, gay TV in the car - no one had made an automotive grade display of the size he wanted yet. Result, the screens started melting. They started dripping liquid from the panel resulting in bubbles. Because industry grade displays aren't rated for temperatures that high. I can't find exactly what standards these displays are supposed to follow (phoneposting) but apparently they are rated for more than 80° C - for the cabin. Surely there must be similar standards for other automotive components as well. If nothing else just think of it this way, America has a desert in Utah so if you want to sell your car in America you have to make sure your product can sustain temperatures that high. This means if you sell the same car in India it should still work well. >service center Yes these people are looking to make a quick buck Make sure to ask around for reputable service centers. Businesses are usually divided into two, some people who want to do honest business (as much as the country permits them) and cheap-minded crooks who are basically con men or goons and have established their businesses as fronts, or another way to loot people. Most are of the second kind but if you find one of the first kind it's worth the while. Also always be present at the workshop preferably every time you send the car for service, but always when replacing expensive/important parts.

>>8333 >Odd even did not work man. The data was clear. Well the report I read did state the contrary. I don't really know tbh >I don't like banning cars in general though, but walkable cities with mass transit and bike lanes are much better. I am sure there is a way to transition to this. Cars should not be used for daily commute, and as cities grow larger this is going to keep becoming a problem. Cities usually start at the banks of rivers, then the expand into the plains, then into the surrounding hills. What was once a small road on the outskirts of the city leading to some small village (that the land mafia took over) is now a major connecting road. But it is still a 2 lane road and is expected to carry 10 times more traffic anyone ever thought there would be on the road. Adding more lanes is not just difficult it also delays the problem as the city expands further and now even a 4 lane road is not enough. Considering anyone with a decent job living in the city easily makes enough money to buy a car (if only on EMI) it's going to happen sooner or later. The problem here, to some extent, might be the number of cars but the biggest problem of them all is that all drivers leave at 8AM to get to office at 9AM and then they leave at 5/6PM to come back home. Total chaos on the 2 lane road. On the contrary there are no 100% fixed timings or destinations for family outings, people depart in a more staggered manner. Now if you eliminate the office workers the 2 lane road magically seems enough. You can make them ride motorbikes or cycles. Cars take up too much s

>>8374 This is a topic that I spent a few years on. Made a useless publication about it too. Nobody cares in India. Nobody gives a fuck. It is not important. Indians make noise about it on social media for 2 weeks, but nobody asks their MLA to do anything about it. In return, governments also don't give a fuck. AAP is guilty of one thing, they buy ton of ads in all media. Even the media houses they call Godi media. In return, media churns fake reports to defend them. Forget air pollution, even with education and transport, jhumla after jhumla. It is all so tiresome The solutions are easier. Tax cars much much higher in NCR, make the licence exams much harder and corruption free. Parallel, provide lots of buses. Doing a dedicated lane is ideal but not possible in Delhi. Bicycle paths are easier to provide too with shade as well. The issue is not how. It is a lack of will power. >>8371 Brain is too fried right now. Meds haven't kicked in. But a simplistic answer would be < quality control on European parts is very low since 2014 < markets like south and central america as well as tropical Islands get European cars < high cost of maintenance due to low quality < European cars start getting rejected What I have heard is India got their B tier vehicles, so not as bad as Brazil, but still not as good as the ones they keep here, leading to dissatisfied customers. German quality is a fucking joke now. Italians are better but not worth the cost that you end up for paying for Italian arrogance (it has its own beauty though, a topic for another time). The Tesla post hits at the heart of this issue though. Modern cars have multiple computers in them, that record and report everything. The consumer is not informed of these , but lot of Youtube videos or articles about this. This data is sold to governments, insurances etc, but again thats a topic for another post and another time. These computers also coordinate the different systems of the car. Not just interiors and music but drive train and engine power curves and suspension. Computers also need cooling. They produce lot of heat by themselves. Add this to tarmac heat etc. Idk about companies like Mahindra. I know Tata made a mess of this in India a while back and they are not competitive anymore because of it.

>>5627 >xpulse sirs, did you buy it ? What was the experience? That is the only bike I want to buy to replace the old one and keep it as a permanent one. That and a second hand ktm 390 and a second hand car similar to 800 before gadhacurry ruined all vehicles.

Motorbikes are manly as fuck and riding a good motorcycle is such a romantic experience.