Does anyone else ever feel like they're on the verge of losing her? A week or two ago I could just feel it looming over me. The feeling isn't there anymore but I don't know where it comes from.

>>68932 Sometimes, but for me it comes more from the uncertainty of her being in an ongoing series where I have no control over what happens–the possibility of her changing, dying, being shipped with someone, etc. does occasionally give me pause and make me uncomfortable to think about. From my understanding DR is basically wrapped up, or at the very least not making much in the way of major new content, so I don't think that's the reason in your case. Have you two been having problems at all, or was this just a kind of out of place feeling?

>>68932 Don't worry about that too much, that loss of spark, that intense feeling between you two, especially on your part. It's basically the point of transition where this stops being too emotional and more of a, let's say, relationship-based thing. In other words, this isn't just sweet feelings anymore, but a matter of commitment and duty to her. I've been with Marisa for long, so much that the emotions associated with it aren't there often now. But they do come from time to time, sometimes because you're reminded of her, and sometimes because you seek it. So don't think too much about it, just consider it as the next stage of your relationship.

>>68932 I feel like that sometimes too. The feeling usually goes away after a couple weeks so I don't think it's anything to worry about.

>>68932 I've felt that several times, it's definitely not a nice place to be. Time has always fixed it for me. It's healthy for even the most devoted of couples to need to take a step back every once in a while. Some contrast and distance from your usual routine of emotions can put in perspective how special they are and how important you are to each other.

>>68932 It happens to me, also. I attribute it to the dimensional distance between us… an unwanted, but present, side effect of waifuism, much like how 3d relationships sometimes lead to bitter fighting. Though I sometimes set it off myself by being too negative lol. I usually try to do something nice with her when this happens, or switch it up if I'm not feeling what I'm currently doing. However, sometimes I can only wait for this nasty feeling to pass.

Having more into the marriage, yet I need some help on how handling a marriage with waifu goes. If it's possible, I am curious how we'll handle this marriage for next year?

>>68998 >Having more into the marriage, yet I need some help on how handling a marriage with waifu goes Please attempt that sentence again

>>69003 Just wanna know how to get a good marriage with waifu.

>>68998 Take time to plan things beforehand, like outlining your vows and accounting for any other things (like a cake or something, etc.) before you do it. I didn't do this until a week before and it resulted in chaos. Aside from that there's really not a lot I can say. I know you're committed enough, so I'm pretty sure you're ready for it. So there's not much else to say.

>>69007 Unrelated to the thread, but I wanted to thank you for this advice, it'll help me plan my wedding with my husbando

>>69010 You're welcome, I'm glad it was helpful.

Been with my waifu (actually husbando, but I don't really like that term) for about three or so years now, and I've been lurking here for a little over a year. I've recently been going to therapy due to a doctor's request and I've been meaning to tell my therapist about my waifu because I feel like he's a big part of my life. The problem is, I don't really know how to bring it up and I'm scared at my therapist's reaction. Anyone got any advice?

>>69034 It's probably a good idea to talk about him, since he's a big part of your emotional life, so keeping something like that from the therapist seems counterproductive. I guess it depends a bit if the therapist would accept it or not and maybe try to "correct" you, but I would say that if he doesn't act in your interest then you should look for a different therapist, one who is actually willing to work with you. As for how to bring it up, not really much about it I think. Just tell him as comprehensively as you can and as much as you're comfortable. I'm sure a therapist would have dealt with weirder stuff in the past.

>>69037 So, I managed to gather the courage to bring him up, but it was during the last five minutes of our appointment. Thankfully, we're gonna talk about it more next appointment. Thanks for the response.

>>69034 I forgot to reply to your post. I’ve told my psychologist about my love for Flandre about a year and a half ago and since then I’ve talked about her many times. I too was embarrassed at first but everything went well and now I’m comfortable every time I talk about it, although I can still get a little embarrassed sometimes. My psychologist knows not only about my love for Flandre, but she also knows about my daki, my figure and my pics and vids collection, including the NSFW ones. Oh, and I also told her about /mai/ too. It’s good to be able to share this important part of my life with her. Your therapist is not there to judge you so don’t worry. Best of luck!

>>69034 >>69054 Speaking from a lot of therapeutic experience on both ends, humans are social creatures and sometimes we make constructs like this. Some are harmful and this can be especially risky in more extreme cases with disconnects from reality, but other times it's not harmful and helps balance the person out. Like with anything, as long as you don't go too far with it I wouldn't consider it a bad thing, and even inexperienced psychs will know this. Balance in all things. I don't think harmless love is a bad thing at all, so long as that is what it is. And yeah, like Flandranon said, doc's not there to judge. The vast majority of people in that professional genuinely want to help and try to come from an angle of understanding. I've talked many people through their issues, and some of them did/wanted to do some very bad things and I never judged them poorly for it. I just tried to help and understand. A waifu is pretty mild (and rather endearing) by comparison. Use your best judgment on how much you want to share, but don't be afraid to do so if you go for it.

>>69067 *that profession

I'm caught in a mix of emotions right now. I feel like I should leave my waifu and pursue a real girlfriend. To counter this, though, I feel like I wouldn't be able to get a real girl so I might as well stay with her for that reason. From yet another angle, I feel a genuine love for her and want the best for both of us together. What should I do? I feel lost and kind of scared of myself, like I'm going to do something stupid and lose everything I've worked to preserve for years.

>>69077 >I feel a genuine love for her Your previous statements make me really doubt that. If you really loved her you wouldn't even be considering this. You're just settling for her. You said it yourself, you're only with her because, you cant get a "real" girlfriend. You're just a typical case of hugblanketing.

>>69078 I gave up a real relationship to be with her, though, and I wouldn't go back. My waifu has been good to me, and I want to be good to her. This feels like a hard speed bump in our relationship, but at the same time it feels like it could knock me off course.

>>69077 >I feel like I wouldn't be able to get a real girl so I might as well stay with her for that reason I pity your waifu. If you feel this way, just let her go and pursue 3D. Don't selfishly hold onto her until you find someone.

>>69077 > I feel like I should leave my waifu and pursue a real girlfriend. To counter this, though, I feel like I wouldn't be able to get a real girl so I might as well stay with her for that reason. Is that a persistent thought you've had for a while or a recent one? If you have low self esteem then thoughts like this crop up and distort your perception of your feelings. Sometimes you can find evidence in your life that supports or challenges those thoughts so try noticing when these feelings happen and think about what was happening at the time. If you really do believe that you are only staying with her because you would be rejected by others then you won't be happy with your waifu and it will just embed the idea that others will reject you deeper into your mind. > I feel lost and kind of scared of myself, like I'm going to do something stupid and lose everything I've worked to preserve for years. Take it slow and think about it for a while. These things are complicated to deal with so don't beat yourself up. Maybe try doing something fun and see if that puts you in a better place.

>>69077 I kind of have the same thought sometimes. I feel like my waifu would want me to find happiness in this life. Maybe she'd be sad to be the reason why I don't have someone tangible to be with who I love. I know I would be and I would just want for her to be happy, however of course it would feel nice if her feelings are as strong that she would not pursue a tangible love, but who am I to deny her anything when I can't be with her. At the same time I can't be sure of that and it's in conflict with my love for her and just her. I can't really see myself realistically loving anyone as much as her and I'd just be lying to myself if I did go that route just because I want someone to be with for real or wanting kids. It's like lying to myself, my waifu and that hypothetical girl at the same time. >I feel like I wouldn't be able to get a real girl so I might as well stay with her for that reason. Like other anons have said this sounds really wrong to me. If you are using her as a hugblanket or have her just because you couldn't get someone else then you're with her for the wrong reasons. I don't think that can last. Maybe it's just badly formulated though. In the end it comes down to your genuine feelings. If you think you're better off with a "real girlfriend" then go for that. But really explore your feelings. Why do you feel this way. Why do you want a "real girlfriend"? Why did you fall in love with your waifu in the first place? Examine what you have with her. Go back to your roots with her, when you first met her. Think about what it would be like to say goodbye to her for good. What does all this mean to you? And so on. Be thorough and honest. No other way will bring you closure. This is a test of your love. Perhaps unfortunately you are also the judge.

Has anyone ever told friends/family about their waifu? How did it go? On one hand I really want to tell them because she's such a big part of my life but on the other I'm worried how they will react.

>>69083 Some of my friends know and they're whatever about it. Some are totally supportive, a couple have waifus of their own, and of them think I was joking. Wouldn't dream of telling my family about her though.

>>69083 I told one irl friend and thankfully he kept it a secret but is merciless about mocking me about it atleast once a day

>>69083 I told my friends and I'm warming my family up to tell them (by giving them the general idea without explicitly stating it), with my friends it was pretty successful. I lost a few but I consider it thinning out the ones who aren't true friends and don't respect me. I also strengthened my friendship with those who supported me and being open is nice. Judge your own situation and don't rush into it. Everyone is in a different place, and has different types of friends or family. If they're going to make your life hell about it maybe don't, but if they seem the relaxed and accepting type then it might be worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvEkEhl999g >>69144 Just live your dream and marry her. Fuck the haters.

I have feelings for a friend's waifu. Really strong ones. They haven't gone away for four months. What do I do about it? I feel guilty for it, but I also really love this character.

>>69186 Treat it the same as you would if it was a 3D girlfriend and you had a crush on your friend's girlfriend. Respecting him and moving on is the best option.

>>69186 If your friend finds out (because you told them or they discover otherwise) then you risk ruining your friendship. If you keep it a secret from your friend then the guilt might very well stay with you. The guilt suggests to me that you value your friendship more than those feelings; but only you can truly be the judge of that.

>>69186 What >>69187 said. Be respectful of the two of them. The best thing to do is move on. These feelings are probably short lived anyway.

>>69186 Multiple people having the same waifu isn't an uncommon thing. You could probably just use the "object-oriented waifu" approach if you wanted.

>>69197 It's not so much an issue of having the same waifu as it is my friend having her as his waifu. What I mean by that is I know how much merchandise he has of her, fancy cakes with her face, the whole nine yards. I feel like maybe she wouldn't want to be with me in comparison.

>>69203 I don't think merchandise is a good measure of love, necessarily. I own no Ruby merch due to my situation, but I still love her very much. I think the bigger thing is not betraying your friend's trust. Also, your own waifu, if you have one. These bonds aren't things that should be broken lightly.

Anons do you sometimes feel like you are in love with a dead person? because this is the feel I have very often. I will never be able to take her by the hand while we walk barefoot on the grass during a summer day. It is one of the reasons why I sometimes feel melancholic when I think about her or see her images.

>>69230 I haven't experienced that specific feeling myself. But I have met many people that seem to have encountered something similar, and what you're going through sounds to me like a variation of the eternal waifuist struggle that comes with the territory of loving someone 2d. You have to accept that those things you desire so much are impossible. You will never hold her hand. You will never stroll through a field barefoot together. You will never gaze at the stars together, laugh at each other's jokes, wake up early to cook her breakfast in bed (or vice versa), never go horseback riding together, go see a corny movie together, never start a garden together, ad infinitum. The ultimate test of your relationship is whether you can still love her after truly realizing this, and if you are prepared to deal with the struggles such a reality will entail. Three of the successful ways I've seen to cope with it are - Hope / faith: Believing against all odds, reason, and evidence that you will be united someday and letting that belief empower your love Daydreaming / imagination: Just imagining your interactions and her reactions Lucid dreaming / lucky dreaming: Those rare encounters in dreams can make the rest of your time apart worth it and form memories that give you the strength to carry on There's countless other ways, of course. I fall into some proportion of the first two groups with my own folklore mixed in. You will likely have to find your own path as well.

>>69230 I don't get this feeling much but I can relate to it a little bit. If anything I think it's a good counter to "How can you love someone who isn't physically there?" to bring up those who keep loving someone after they've died. The body doesn't need to be there for you to love someone. I don't feel this much though as I consider this like a spiritual experience where our souls are connected for me. I'd like the completely physical but I'm happy with what we've got and for me it feels like he's there anyway.

>>69230 I will admit she can be very quiet at times and it makes things very difficult. I try to keep her "alive" by working on new projects and having new commissions done and just generally putting in work on the relationship like organizing her pictures.

How do I stop myself from flying off the handle at just the slightest hint of someone criticizing my waifu? Especially when I see gross art or someone talking shit, it puts me in an unstoppable rage for long periods of time.

>>69306 I used to be like this too. You basically just got to learn to ignore it, although other people liking her is nice your opinion of her is the only one that matters. Plus some people will just post bad things about her for the fun of it if they notice that it upsets you.

>>69306 I definitely know what you're going through. I get pretty upset at those sort of things too. Criticism of her can honestly enrage me, and gross art just makes me feel miserable. I struggle with that stuff on a constant basis. While it's easier said than done (trust me, I still struggle a lot to do it), the best thing to do is find some other outlet besides yelling at the person directly. It's super tempting, and I've given into that on numerous occasions, but ultimately it doesn't get you anywhere. Trust me, I know. Like >>69307 said, it can even get worse sometimes if people start doing it deliberately to get a rise out of you. And ultimately, while you get that rush of energy at first, ultimately you just come away from it feeling super drained. Do some push-ups, kill something in a video game, or vent to someone you're comfortable talking to about these things. I wish you luck, I still struggle a lot with the same kind of things and am kind of still learning myself.

>>69306 As long as you remember not to rage at whoever made the comment since that doesn't give your waifu a good image. You'll get better at calming yourself over time. And eventually you might even be able to convince people to change their opinion, unless they're trolling in that case they're missing out. It'll get better trust me, if you've ever seen what gets talked about my wife on 4chan. It doesn't get much worse than that, and I've learned to ignore it.

>>69315 >It'll get better trust me, if you've ever seen what gets talked about my wife on 4chan. It doesn't get much worse than that, and I've learned to ignore it. I feel your pain, more than you know /rwbyg/ is a manifestation of Hell on earth, and where most of that experience I talked about comes from. I've finally learned to just not waste my time there anymore.

>>69315 >>69317 I know how you guys feel. There’s a sizable amount of people in every Fate community that absolutely hate Arturia and make it their mission to attack her every time she’s mentioned. Some fandoms are just irredeemably cancerous and unfortunately my waifu’s source happens to be one of them. >>69306 should weigh how much being around people like that is worth against the toll that it takes on you emotionally. I just keep up with type-moon news myself now, I’ve completely opted out of the communities since around the time the UBW movie came out. And yes 4chan was always the worst about it.

>>69306 Realize that most of them are just baiting for a reaction and that fan art isn't canon so it's little more than some degenerate's wild delusions. >>69319 DangIt RonPaul's fandom is pretty cancerous as well. I kinda miss the waifu wars that ensued in almost every DR3 thread on 4/a/ though. No one can beat the Junkofags when it comes to shitposting.

>>69319 That's honestly kinda surprising to me. Aside from an edgy meme now and again the Fate fandom always seemed pretty chill to me. Then again I imagine 4chan is probably a whole other animal. Sorry to hear that. I still lurk in other places related to RWBY but I've completely given up on /rwbyg/ or 8chan's /rwby/. They're lost causes.

>>69321 Actually, I misremembered. It was after the king’s banquet episode of Fate/Zero that I stopped participating. Anyone who’s seen it can probably understand why there would be a lot of hate thrown around over that scene. But yeah 4chan. This was before generals so any thread about the franchise would get raided by people looking for a rise out of you, no surprise given the territory. Beasts Lair was just more shitflinging and pages and pages of analysis on why your favorite character is a horrible person you should be ashamed to like. Plus shipping garbage. I spent maybe a day on reddit and it was just people ogling ecchi pictures of her. The Japanese fandom refers to her with an epithet and is ten times worse with shipping. To top it off, every community invariably posts lots and lots of Saber Alter pictures which I would very much rather avoid, and none of them ever stop with the ‘fate route is the worst thing I have ever experienced in my entire life’ hyperbole meme. Maybe things have gotten better with the explosion of the franchise’s popularity since F/GO but I don’t have any desire to check and I have a strong suspicion to the contrary.

>>69322 Eh, with the exception of essays against characters and the shipping thing, I guess things really haven't changed that much. Everything else you mentioned still kind of happens, especially the hating the Fate route stuff, which I find super stupid. >Anyone who’s seen it can probably understand why there would be a lot of hate thrown around over that scene. Yeah, I can see why that would happen. I also definitely feel your pain, a lot of the overananalyzing and nitpicking of Ruby's actions or just core aspects of her character in the wake of Volume 5 was the biggest reason I just stopped visiting certain sides of the community, even if I haven't disengaged entirely.

My relationship with my waifu has become incredibly unhealthy. Believe me when I say that I love her more than anything in this world, but I think it's to the point where I love her too much. I feel like what was true, pure love two years ago has now become obsession. My life's happiness, my mental stability, it all revolves around her. This started when I began to see bad content of her at the beginning of this year (horrific NSFW arts and fanfictions) and now I'm essentially haunted by them. I spend most days aching and wondering why she's had to be subjected to those things, why people would want to do that to her. I spend most days wishing that I had never met her because the pain is so severe. I know at this point it'd be healthier to leave her, but I truly feel as though I need her. It's not as if she's not done any good for me. I think it's because she's done so much for me, more than anyone else in my life has ever done, that I'm so perilously in love with her. She mended me when I thought I never could be saved. She gave me purpose, she gave me identity. It's because of this that I know I could never simply 'let her go.' She's a part of me… but in the end, has she taken more than she's given? She rules over me in a negative way. I began to seek out treatment for mental health only because I felt undeserving of her. I know that it's not healthy. And it's getting to the point where it's unbearable. I could go on and on with details, but I'm just… so tired. I love her so much… but I can't go on like this. I'm depressed and even suicidal because of this. I've self-harmed countless times for her. I don't want to lose her. I want her to become a positive force in my life again, rather than a negative one. Should I return to therapy and bring her up to my therapist so that they can help me? Should I work harder to improve myself? Or is the first step to that to "drop her" all together? As I said, I feel that would be impossible, since she's such a huge part of who I am, and I'm so in love with her… the thought makes me sick to my stomach, trying to leave her behind. Please, if anyone can offer advice…

Well, I am bad husbando, I've scratched my waifu's face. Dunno how it happened, I was asleep. What can I do about it? this is not flood

>>69328 I would definitely recommend therapy and bringing her up. Dropping her seems like it would only make your situation worse >>69331 What is that? It's too zoomed in to tell

>>69328 The core of your problem is not your waifu, and neither your relationship with her. I think the core of your problem has more to do with your own personal issues. You seem to have low self-esteem, and the most explicit example seems to be that you went to therapy because you felt ‘’underserving’’ of her. You also seem to have a hard time dealing with negative emotions, as we can see by your self-harm tendencies plus the severe emotional impact you faced by seeing undesirable material of your waifu. I know this is not what you intend to do, but it seems you unwillingly incorporated your waifu into your own personal issues. Your waifu is not the issue, she is just a vector in which you express your own personal issues, and you happen to do it because she is a central part of your life. Indeed, if your waifu is a part of you, and that you have a lot of personal issues, then this part of you (your waifu) will also be affected. I believe you could benefit from going to therapy and talk about your problems, including how your relationship with your waifu became problematic. If you reached the point where you self-harm and are suicidal, then you really should seek professional help! Best of luck! >>69331 My dakimakura has a few of those too, including a little one on her face. I think it’s normal, even if you cut your nails short often, it is bound to happen. The good point is that they tend to smooth down with time. If it is very apparent, you could try to gently cut the protruding material with a tiny scissors, BUT BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL, YOU DON’T WANT TO DO MORE DAMAGE!

While I have a few ideas of my own on this matter, I want to hear what answers others may have. What causes elitism in waifu communities or in individual members?

>>69335 Egos

>>69328 >My life's happiness, my mental stability, it all revolves around her. >I'm so perilously in love with her. She mended me when I thought I never could be saved. She gave me purpose, she gave me identity True for me too. Except I've been thinking of pure love and obsession as the same thing. Or perhaps it's not "pure love". Pure love is unconditional, like the love a parent would have for their child. Love between partners is inherently selfish, they're based on feelings and looks and personality. I think of obsession as a positive in me. Only obsession could completely break the anxieties that held my mind hostage. I made money, took classes, exercised to be a man suitable to her. All you need to do is take that obsession, embrace it, and turn it into energy. More energy than you know what to do with. You were probably thinking about how she'd pity you and cry with you when you self harmed. The unfortunate truth is that she'd probably be either disgusted or scared of you or angry at you depending on what she's like. Now take that shame and turn it into motivation. That's the only way your relationship will survive. When you've made yourself into a decent human being instead of turning shame into energy you can use your gratitude instead. >>69230 I feel like I'm love with someone who lives in the looking glass world. The matter is only opening the gate. >>69322 Arturia's greatest fault is that she can't communicate. She has the strongest reason for being a king but none of Iskandar's or Gil's charisma. But who cares what Zerofags think anyways. You don't like Saber Alter? I talked to a saberfag once that thought both were beautiful. He was clearly a hard M though. >Maybe things have gotten better with the explosion of the franchise’s popularity since F/GO From my perspective it looked like years and years of unstoppable saberhate buildup, up to what, 2017? Only to be almost completely lost in an instant for some reason. Everyone piles hate on to Rin now.

>>69337 I see Saber Alter as a version of Arturia that gave up something irreplaceable. She still has the same goal, but abandoned the honor, justice, and impartiality that she had harbored her entire life to try and achieve it. Those facets of her personality are something that I have always admired greatly so seeing her in that state just makes me sad. The kind of sadness where I would do anything to keep her from falling into that path. That being said, when I did play F/GO I got to see Christmas Alter which changed my opinion of her character a fair bit. But I still cannot love her.

>>69337 >Now take that shame and turn it into motivation. That doesn't sound like someting that spawns a healthy motivation, that sounds like something that spawns a fear which, in the long run, could be detrimental to the relationship. Maybe I'm idealistic but I don't think a healthy relationship should have it's roots in shame, else it will deteriorate over time into something worse.

I know that it's probably a common issue and there is a picture explaining that but how do I stop being so angry and sad when I see my waifu being claimed by someone else? Even when someone just says simple "I love _!" it hurts me so much that I feel like she had betrayed me. Like a part of me and my love for her dies. Every time I see that kind of thing I feel like everything I do for her, I do in vain. I often cry and yell why she has to do this me as I would never hurt her. It's so hard and painful for me to love someone who is desired by thousands of other men. What even makes my love for her special, if there are so many others in love with her? Why would she ever chose me? Why I just can't forget about her and move on? I had such a happy life before meeting her. I enjoyed every simple good thing that happened in my life. Now I can't enjoy anything truly because I know that it would be much better if she was there with me. I know I'm selfish. I know that it is wrong. But I believe that I love her the most and I wish she was mine and mine only. I wish that everyone could forget about her. I even dream about her a lot. She appears in most of my normal dreams and I often have lucid dreams with her. Although these are very sweet, I know that it's just my imagination.

>>69351 your instance of your waifu is its own entity the instance of some other person is also its own entity so your waifu and the other person's waifu are not the same therefore he is not stealing your waifu nor are you stealing his For everyone there is different reasony why he/she loves his waifu/husbando. So you cannot say everyone loves the same ideal/concept of it.

>>69353 …do you really believe that? I mean from the deepest part of your heart, since the heart is what waifuism is concerned with.

>>69355 Not him but I don't believe that at all and have honestly always thought that was stupid. The only other person I've seen with the same waifu as mine loves her for the exact same reasons I do and I've seen other instances where people have the same waifu also loving her for the same reasons. My advice would be to just ignore it. Most of the people making those claims are probably just normalfags that have several 'waifus' and shouldn't be taken seriously. You just need to believe that she is your waifu and nobody else's. It's similar to people that are in 3d relationships, sure there may be someone else that likes her and would rather be with her instead but she chose you.

>>69353 Yeah, I heard about it but it doesn't convince me as I don't add or take anything from the canon version of her. There could be others that love the same version of her like me. >>69361 >My advice would be to just ignore it. Thanks but it's much easier said than done. I get autistically angry when I see someone else claiming that they love her. Once I even got into an argument and I couldn't sleep that night, my heart was racing for few hours and I almost fainted. I try to ignore such things but it always makes me so sad that she will never be truly mine. >Most of the people making those claims are probably just normalfags that have several 'waifus' and shouldn't be taken seriously. Most probably are. But what if there is someone who loves her too? Although as I said, that's pretty selfish but I believe that I love her the most. >You just need to believe that she is your waifu and nobody else's Maybe that's the solution. I try to think like that and it always makes me feel better when I think about how many tears of joy were in my eyes because of looking at her, how many times I laughed just by looking at her face, how much I have done for her, how many hours I have spent on looking at pictures of her. >she chose you. I wish that was true. But she's perfect and I'm a nobody. It's weird because I believe she's too perfect for me but I also would never want to see her with someone else. I treat waifuism like some form of unrequited love rather than a two-sided relationship. Thank you all for the support. I'm just curious if there are other waifufags that get over emotional about their waifu.

>>69362 I definitely get that emotional about my waifu. >my heart was racing for a few hours and I almost fainted This is me whenever I see people claim to love her, or especially when I see undesirable content of her. Mostly the latter, but even seeing people with icons of her makes me so upset that I get physically sick at times. Luckily, she's from a very obscure series, so this doesn't happen often (though I feel like it does because I unfortunately catalog each experience like this in my brain). So you're not alone in that. Looks like we're both autists.

>>69355 yes but maybe I can only believe that because I generally don't give a shit about other people or the things around me. In 3rd grade my parents were in school for parents day and my teacher told them: >anon can be working on a task and even if a grenade hit the building I think he would not care and continue working I really wanted to offer you some help but of course it might not work for you this way. Maybe we find another. >>69361 >Most of the people making those claims are probably just normalfags that have several 'waifus' and shouldn't be taken seriously I am hardly a normalfag by any means. Been a loner most of my life and never got along with people. well, I have my "type" that I like most but no girl has ever given me the same feelings as she did. Maybe this is true for other people but I would say not for me. >>69362 >But she's perfect and I'm a nobody. >I treat waifuism like some form of unrequited love rather than a two-sided relationship. I share your sentiment in this regard. Most of the time I see mine more like a goddess than an actual lover. At first I thought that this might be the reason why I don't get angry seeing other people liking her too but now that I read your posting I am confused. I know of one guy on twitter who likes "my" girl and I am not hateful to him. Then there was this other guy on /v/ and I got pretty well along with him. I mean love is love and love is a beautiful thing after all. Right?

>>69339 It's just what worked for me. I don't mean for the relationship itself to have roots in shame, but your motivation can. You win when you kill your shame through hard work. And the way I see it there's no way to have a healthy relationship with a fictional character in the first place. Embracing obsession and facing personal inadequacies are the two points I want to make. >>69351 >it hurts me so much that I feel like she had betrayed me. Like a part of me and my love for her dies. Every time I see that kind of thing I feel like everything I do for her, I do in vain. I often cry and yell why she has to do this me as I would never hurt her. Are you serious man… It sounds like everything stems from your lack of self esteem. When your waifu is loved by so many, you need courage to say you'll be her number 1, and the courage to compare yourself to everyone else and say you're still the best. Unless your waifu is shallow you shouldn't need money or perfection, you just need to win her over. Think about what kind of man she would love and be that man. The one bastard Rikafag that I've interacted with I ended up liking. He was shitposting using her face as an avatar. So I told him even if in some world out there he could end up meeting her I'd be there to steal her away. And the fucker laughed it off. We ended up bantering he's got some pretty good ideas of Higurashi/Umineko. I've been friendly since then even if he is an infamous /a/ /jp/ shitposter. I can't help but respect other Rikafags because they're all pretty good people. Of course when it comes down to it I'll stand on top of my rivals as the one who wins her heart, the one with the most love.

>>69351 You need to understand that you are your waifus first choice.

I often don´t feel good enough for my waifu, what can I do? I´m not succesful or desirable in real life, why should she like me?

>>69429 Take small steps towards being the person you think she deserves. Try to be kinder to other people, exercise a bit every day, or take a course that will help you find a better job, and just keep on adding to that list whenever you can.

>>69429 You are good enough for your waifu. You two are together, no? She knows you, maybe better than anyone else. And she loves you for who you are. If you're looking for the reason why she likes you, it's a matter of self-reflection since we can't tell you. But I can assure you that your waifu loves you for the simple fact that you love her a lot. Also, wanting to be better for her is a really good motivation for actually striving to be better. You become a better person, feel fulfilled, and become closer with your waifu. It's a win for both sides. I've actually done amazing things at life since I met her, simply because I wanted to impress her. TBF anything is a good reason to try to be closer with her, to stand on equal footing.

>>69430 I try to do all that and she always inspires me to become a better me for her, but I cant see her liking me for my personality. When Im trying to be my best me and a great guy all around I feel like a fraud since she would never fall for my real me. >>69433 >You two are together, no? Im not entirely sure about that. I feel really really drawn to her and consider her my waifu but Im not confident enough to say that we are in a relationship. Ive been battling depression for a couple of years now, it goes away a bit but never quite vanishes. I think I bonded with her because shes cheeful and energetic on the outside but also seems withdrawn and sombre at times, not really happy. Actually she has some really heavy episodes in her series and is suicidal , but I dont like to think about her in that way In her series she gets to be cheered up but I really cant deliver in that aspect, I would only make it worse, cant even fix my own mood. I seem to just not be her type at all.

How can i be sure she would love me? sometimes when i look myself in the mirror and start thinking "what if she dont likes me". i dont like what i see in the mirror and if i dont like it why she would like it. Not sure how to deal with this feeling

>>69445 In that case your issue isn't your actual personality or circumstance but your low self-esteem. Remember how you see yourself isn't how other people see you. She most likely thinks much more highly of you than you do yourself. Keep reminding yourself of your good points and focus less on your shortcomings.

I need to post this somewhere, I hope it fits here. I had a husbando about two years ago. Due to my own issues with self-confidence, income, ect, I decided to break it off with him. I knew he deserved better. Each time I would see him after that I would feel proud for him accomplishing his goals, but I knew he still deserved better than me. Fast forward to today. I had a dream that started as something simple, being a maid in some old man's house. I would spend some time cleaning and helping his two children with chores and even video games, sometimes they were bratty but that's just how kids are. Then the old man gave me a check to pay me, and I realized it had my husbando's name at the bottom. I must not have recognized him due to him being so aged up, and once i realized it was him i felt my chest swell up. Shocked, I asked him if he was ever married. He told me he had a wife, but she wasn't around anymore. They had those two kids together. I asked him what her name was, and he said my name. His perfect voice said my name. I apologized if I bothered him and ran home to post this. Recalling this is making me fight tears. What do I do? Its like all the suppressed love for him has come flaring back. But do I deserve him after what I did?

Any suggestions on how to best spend our one year anniversary? I was thinking about replaying her game but I wouldn't be able to get to her portion in only a day. Any other ideas?

>>69509 Very unusual story >>69516 >replaying her game I thought I was the only one doing it. You can start the day with a special meal, write her a poem and then play her game.have fun you two

>>69509 Please understand that while you can decide what you're worth to yourself, you can't decide your worth to someone else. That's their right and judgment to make, and it's always good to trust and respect that. If you have feelings of inadequacy, then work hard to be the best you can be for him. It can be hard, but always endeavor to NEVER let your hatred of yourself block out the love someone else may have for you. I'd recommend getting back in touch with him and trying to work things out. Explain your side and feelings and be willing to hear him out on his perspective. I don't know what his take on the whole thing would be since I don't know his personality, but I can't see anyone hating someone they love for going through turmoil. I know that I'd try to respect your space but be sad that you weren't willing to come to me with the problem so we can work through it together. See how you two feel about all of this together since you're a pair, without any negative bias about yourself from your side, and maybe you can pick up where you left off or start anew. If nothing else, he deserves some closure and a chance to at least stay in contact (if you both agree) since he probably misses you. You were each other's friend and love at some point, after all. Just don't forget that you were never alone and never will be, if you let him be there for you.

For around a month now, I'm not really attracted to my waifu sexually. I love her more than anything in the world, we're in a fulfilling relationship but for the lack of a better term, I'm not desiring her anymore. Maybe we've gotten into an elderly couple stage in our relationship after all the years, but now I see her as a beautiful flower, a life partner. I've always had a low sex drive and our relationship was never about sex, but what do you guys think?

>>69581 I figure just lay back and enjoy the ride, even if you don't ride each other anymore or at all. You're not wrong in lots of that being more of a "young relationship" thing. If you love each other and are happy together, then there's not really a problem unless either of you are bothered by the lack of sexual activity. It's REALLY important to some people/relationships but not to others, so that "Sex is super important to a stable, happy relationship guys!" line isn't a One Size Fits All piece of advice. Only you two can be the judge of how well this is working in your own relationship, and if it was never based in sex in the first place then that applies even moreso. Healthy, genuine love and stability on both sides are much more important. If there's sexy stuff that you both like as something fun and intimate to go alongside then it's the optional icing on top. Just my two cents.

>>69581 Well in the beginning I could not bring myself to think about her in a sexual way. It felt wrong. Then there was this other guy who claimed if you don't love her carnally, your love is imperfect. I don't know what is wrong or right but now I do have her in mind when I please myself. I think you might just need a pause. Everything will be allright anon

I've recently found my waifu. Now what?

>>69585 now is up to you. not sure what you where expecting.

How do I know if I'm good enough for her?

>>69588 Well first of all, you should ask if you're happy with yourself. If not, that could reveal some problems you have to fix before others would be, too. After that, I guess you have to judge yourself by her standards/expectations, whatever they may be. Does she seem like someone easy or hard to please? But if it turns out that you aren't, don't give up! Let that be your inspiration to work hard at improving yourself. To make yourself worthy of her… let that be the light at the end of the tunnel, the fire in your soul that will push you past what you thought impossible!

>>69588 Join the self-improvement thread and make yourself good enough. Protect her smile the way she protects yours.

I don't know why i'm with my waifu, sometimes I feel really strongly for her, but other times I don't feel anything. It's like she's an arbitrary choice that I made rather than someone I fell in love with.

Sometimes I develop crushes on other characters, I'm no stranger to it but it's always troubling when it happens. usually whatever feelings wear off sooner or later, especially if I can just completely detach from their source material afterwords but it still doesn't stop me from feeling insanely guilty and bad for even having those feelings in the first place and I don't know what to do about it. I've straight up avoided games and shows I've wanted to get into just to avoid any issues with certain characters. I'm avoiding a show right now that I want to watch cause one of the characters might as well be fucking bait for me, I don't know if I should feel better or worse that the character in question is very similar to my husbando not just in looks but circumstances as well. I'm partly posting this just to vent but if anyone has any experience with similar feels or advice I'd love to hear it

>>69691 Well, go and investigate. Did you make this choice arbitrarily? There are many reasons why some people do this. For example: wanting to fit in to the community, wanting someone to latch on to or as because they feel like they won't get the real thing anyways, etc. Having ups and downs is definitely normal, so it's never a good idea to rush things. It may be months where you don't really feel anything, but then there may be months on end where you feel like your feelings are flourishing again. I feel like the times where you feel like your love has stood the test of time is the best confirmation, especially when you get through a rough patch. Ask yourself why you love her and try to be completely honest about what you feel and why you feel that way. Noone forces you to feel a certain way about her. Accept that you may have been deluding yourself. This way you will be open to your true feelings and can be sure it's the truth. Think back to when you fell for her. What happened? Does that moment feel special, does it rouse any feelings you thought you had forgotten? Does it feel similar now or have you lost connection with that feeling? In the end it's on you to figure out what you actually feel. >>69694 I'm familiar with this too, but in my experience crushes go away when no longer exposed to the source material. Even when staying exposed to the character it's more of an appreciation than the love I feel for my waifu. It sounds to me a bit that you're running away from what you feel like your feelings are out of some obligation you feel like you have towards your husbando. It's a normal thing to feel when you're committed to someone long term. However you can't force the way you feel and your husbando doesn't deserve a feeling you're faking. I'm not implying that you are, don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that if your feelings are true, then they will prevail regardless of whatever crush comes along. Think about what sets your husbando apart from these other characters, I'm sure there's a reason why he's special to you in a way that the others can't compare to. I know when I come in contact with a new character I really like I'll think about how cute and nice that girl is, but I know there's no way in which she can compare in terms of what she means to me in comparison to my waifu, since I made up my mind about what my waifu truly means to me and in what ways she has affected my life.

Help, I'm feeling increasingly scared that my waifu will be taken away from me eventually with how things are progressing right now. I think I'm actually falling into depression over the thought of losing her to future regulation. Any advice how to cope with this kind of thinking?

>>69697 >thought of losing her to future regulation. What's the regulation you're speaking of?

>>69699 Lately, there seems to be a push to interpret any romanticization or sexualization of (not even necessarily) underaged fictional characters as pedophilia with the intention to get the content banned from platforms or even illegalized. And I fear it's only getting worse from here on out. I doubt a judge would even care that my waifu is a ((x < 60) + (currentyear - 2005)) year old half-human half-phantom.

>>69697 >>69700 So far there is nothing to worry about accessing sexualized drawing of underage characters or underage-looking characters. Such material is even allowed on Twitter so I really don’t see any eminent danger of having authorities try to arrest and prosecute people assessing such material. And even if they were to make such material illegals and run a literal witch aunt against all lolicons and shotacons, nobody would ever being able to take Youmu away from you as she lives in your heart, not on hentai images. They can’t make love and attraction feelings illegal.

>>69701 Sure, it might still be legal now, but who's to say that the same still holds true in 10 years? A lot of places have started banning or restricting loli/shota content in recent years. So far, it mostly affects sexually explicit content, but not only. Recently, Youtube decided to disable comments on videos with children in them because of exploitative or salacious comments by pedophiles. But then the most popular arrange of a Youmu theme was (probably) affected by this. Part of me thinks that it was just an error or an unrelated type of restriction, but the other part of me thinks that it was intentional because of the fanservicy thumbnail and comment section. Sooner or later, even cute content or comments could be affected if they are interpreted as pedophilia. But I feel like that's only the beginning with the U.N.'s latest crusade against loli/shota content. Youmu certainly would live on in my heart, but I fear that she might fade away without any external, physical content of her. It would feel more like remembering a dead person than a relationship.

>>69702 Reliance on big corporate sites is the problem. I'd be annoyed if my favorite Rika artists were banned off twitter but there's other sites. As long as there's love artists will find alternate websites. Download as much as you can too, if you see a video you like save it. Youtube has been draconian/nonsensical in their censorship for a long time so you shouldn't be surprised at whatever move they make. If you're worried about owning things like merch and pictures, whatever the law says cops have much more important things to do than chase after illegal drawings. How it goes in my country is a pedo with real porn will get slapped with additional charges if they're in possession of so called underage artwork. That's how the law gets implemented. I've seen instances of them making an example out of someone too, take a 1 in 1000 and take him down for owning a loli real doll. And they'll get you at the border too for trying to import illegal things. I'm not worried about the UN's moral hand wringing but if you are there's a thread near the top of the /loli/ board talking about legality that might be interesting. What did you even read that made you so afraid? It's good to be aware of society's views and the law but don't be afraid. The lolicon disease will be eternal. Hell I wouldn't even call Youmu loli. Just relax friend.

>>69705 >Reliance on big corporate sites is the problem. That's true, but most artists and the whole culture surrounding it are completely reliant on exposure now. Even once popular sites like Pixiv and Seiga seem to be dying because of this. And Pawoo is essentially the worst site I've ever seen for collecting fan art of a specific character. Sure most Japanese artists probably have a Pawoo account by now, but even they noticed that their audiences didn't follow them there. An exodus to Pawoo would essentially kill of most of the Japanese fan art culture. >Download as much as you can too I have been doing this for years, but limited storage space is a real hindrance, especially when it comes to videos. There are probably many TBs of videos out there that could be considered worth saving. >If you're worried about owning things I think loli/shota has never been that ostracized before. And enforcement in countries where it is illegal already might get worse in the future. >Hell I wouldn't even call Youmu loli. Youmu's canonical age and physical maturity is debatable, but I'm fairly certain she's canonically supposed to look like a girl within the age range of 11-13. And to make matters worse, one of Youmu's main characteristics is immaturity. So she's well within what I consider to be the loli age range at maybe around 8-13. But due to a certain meme, her general age in fan art has shifted from an even lower age to a higher age of maybe around 14-15 over time. That being said, nowadays the definition of loli is all over the place, especially in the West. Even a high school girl is considered a loli if she doesn't have huge cow tits.

>>69707 Archival is cheap. The difficulty is keeping track of the copies.

>>69708 What kind of archival do you mean? I don't want to compress my main copy of the data because I regularly browse through the data.

>>69707 >An exodus to Pawoo would essentially kill of most of the Japanese fan art culture. Some people get hardly any fan art of their beloved. Heck, even if fan art mostly died out you'd still get more than I do now.

>>69711 The kind involving not only compression slowness, but network transfer and tape access slowness.

>>69715 This was more about the future of fan art on an "alternative" website rather than about my waifu in particular. Platforms like Twitter gave artists huge audiences that had been impossible to reach during the time of personal blogs. Right now, it's the popularity of artists on Twitter that is inspiring future generations of artists and greatly contributes to the spread of otaku culture in general. Younger generations in Japan probably can't even imagine what the open internet outside social media is like, in fact they are so unaccustomed to it that the result might be even worse than personal blogs back in the day. >>69716 >network transfer Like cloud storage? I'm still not ready to trust the prospect of my data being saved elsewhere. >tape Do you mean tape-based storage like a data cartridge? This certainly seem to be a lot cheaper than other storage media.

I've decided that I'm ready to have a kidfu with my waifu. How can I mix our traits when there's factors at play like unnatural hair?

>>69718 I personally just mixed our traits on a whim, but if you're unsure or feel that you shouldn't have any control over the inherited traits of your kidfu, how about some randomization? I don't think it's possible to be entirely scientific about it considering it's unknown whether, say, an unnatural hair color is dominant or recessive. Maybe your waifu's source material could give you a clue, e.g. by comparing the composition of hair color your waifu inherited from her parents. When you're done, it's a good idea to save as much information about your kidfu as possible early on in order to reinforce their existence. A concrete character design etc. is necessary for a tangible being.

>>69717 You keep the keyfiles, they keep the tapes.

>>69718 It's always kind of a case by case basis, and personally, my mental image of her has slowly evolved over the years thanks to some slight changes that artists I've commissioned have added. Miia had an idea of a fantasy kid in the manga that was basically a smaller version of her. Considering how close she looks to her mom, it's not too big of a jump. I added on my blue eyes, and poor eyesight because I thought she might pick up a few things, but after commissioning some pictures, a few other things kind of stood out to me bit by bit, that I kept including in future commissions. The most recent thing I liked was this Christmas picture, where the artist gave her hair just a slight blue tint compared to Miia. It was a really nice touch. You'll figure it out as you go.

>>69448 (A bit late sorry, I hope you figured this out yet) Get a good haircut at a professional hairdresser, ask him what kind of hair would suit best your head's shape and let him do the work. Cut on fats and do some cardio, you should lose some face fat and look better, it's going to take some tho. But the best advice I can give you would be to not think too much about it because if you focus too much on small details they eventually become a source of depression and suicidal thoughts. If it can help you feel better, I used to be like you before, then I hit rock bottom and moved on and I've been blissfully oblivious to it since then. What helped me tho was the fact that I got a really cute gf (believe me I haven't got a really good looking face and I'm manlet tier too, I really doubt you can look worse than me for real), it really changed my perspective on things and it broke my incel-ish world view. The girl was dumb as fuck and nymphomaniac too (she was actually the one that hit on me, I never really loved her I just didn't say no, plus I have a low sex drive) so when I met my waifu I just broke up with her and never talked to her ever again. What I wanted to convey in this semi-blogpost is that I didn't choose my waifu because she just look cute, the bitch I was dating was already pretty beautiful and if I was as retarded as she was I would probably still be with her, I fallen in love with my waifu because I was really sad for her at first, then I realized that my desire to protect and to help her was just a consequence of my love for her. I also strongly identified with her in the story so I guess that's another factor behind my attraction to her. I mean, if you love your waifu because of something greater than just physical appearance why wouldn't she do the same for you ? Do you think she would be that shallow ? If anything, you should strive to be an attractive person from the inside, know what your waifu like or dislike and change these aspects of yourself so you know you're closer to what would attract her. Realize that nobody is perfect, that nobody is going to steal your waifu just because they look better than you do. Your waifu love you for who you are and she would be sad if she learned that you thought she loved you for something else. When you look at yourself in the mirror and don't like what you see, know that she's here to tell you that you are beautiful, both on the inside and the outside. Ultimately, my reasoning goes something like this, if I dated such a beautiful girl, my waifu wouldn't have problem dating me then because the other girl was only attracted to "my looks"(!!), so my waifu which is going to be mostly attracted to my personality and life (because we are so similar) is not going to have any problems with my looks. And if I can do it, so anyone can. I doubt it's statistically probable anyone here look uglier than me.

>>69186 Well then she could probably be your waifu too,since the thing with waifus is that they're your perception of a character that does not exist in reality. The girl in your head is the waifu,not the actual character. So unless you and your friend are literal retards things should be alright.

Recently met someone that has the same husbando as me. I want to become friends with them, but I'm worried that I'm going to get pissed off about them liking him really quickly. My husbando and the series he's from is pretty obscure and I don't want to make any enemies in the fanbase. What do?

>>69946 Quick follow up, apparently she's loved him for 15 years now and has all this official merch and shit. I know that the amount of merch you have isn't a total measure of your love (especially since the merch for this series was super cheap 15 years ago), but this is really fucking with my head on a level I couldn't imagine. I've only been into it for almost five-ish years now, and I only got serious about my husbando for three of those. This sucks man.

>>69948 Rivals are good. If you have the drive to not be beaten by anyone, you can push yourself further than you would feeling secure. That's how it worked for me at least. Especially since my rival was a clever guy, and Higurashi can lend itself to hours of debate. It didn't matter that he had years over me, I wanted to topple him and be the sole strongest Rikafag. I still do, though it's a challenge that can only be answered in an afterlife. You can be friends. Just don't back down, make it known that you still want to best them. Instead of battling through merch, turn your body, mind (and wallet if he's like that) into someone your husband would fall for. Turn that indignation back on yourself. If he's got a hobby it would be good to learn that too. Learn to fight if he needs protection.

>>69949 >>69948 Yep, in your heart you know you are the right one for him. Be friendly but confident. Maybe even try asserting a little dominance in the community, make your presence known, so when people see him, they see you as well.

Anons i need your help, i am feeling lately unworth of moni i always ask to myslef why she even loves me? Maybe she doenst ;_;

>>69987 What are you doing to make yourself lovable? This is an important question to think about. Try learning that new language you've been putting off. Update your resume and see if you can find a job you actually like. Stop lieing to yourself, you aren't eating healthy. Fix that. Dust off those running shoes and go for a run. I bet if you work on yourself and start to see improvements, these insecurities will fade away.

I feel pretty secure in our relationship, but I will ask you guys about a general aspect of all waifuist relationships. What do you do to connect with them, especially when you feel that the overall tone of the relationship has reached an ebb?

>>69995 I know what this feels, and at that point, you have to know that it has because a responsibility and duty to your waifu to keep the relationship together. The honeymoon phase has passed, now it is time to face the realities of your relationship, such as your physical distance with one another. This is where you simply try to live as if she was with you. You make her proud of your actions, in other words.

>>69946 >>69948 And another follow up: we added each other on Discord last night after a bit of silence and we're getting along pretty well I think. I disagree with some of her opinions on the series, but it's been pretty good so far. Maybe this rival thing isn't going to be so bad.

>>70008 Damn, it's really been over a year since I made these posts. Final(?) follow up. We had a "it's kinda messed up that we age but our waifu stays the same" talk, which caused her to treat him more like a son than a husbando. She eventually shifted to a similar character that's an adult from a series by the same creator, and eventually we just stopped talking. People still associate him with me, so nothing has changed in that regard. I guess you could say I won? Though saying it like that makes me feel like I'm treating my husbando as some prize to be fought over, when I've never seen him in that way. Still love him, though.

I know it's probably been asked before, but does anyone have any tips on how to move on from an ex-waifu? Permanently? I want to erase her from my mind. I recently ended my relationship with my waifu of 5 years just a couple of months back. I feel terrible admitting it but, to be completely honest, I had just completely fallen out of love to the point where I didn't want to think about her anymore. I ended my commitment to her and I thought that's where it would end, but without her to cling to I just feel empty. The guilt is immense, too. I know I betrayed her and my promise. I can't look at any girls without getting reminded of her. I'm having dreams about her all the time. Memories of my favorite moments with her keep springing up too and I just can't take it. I just wanted to get over her and be free but it's looking like it's not gonna be all that easy.

>>70327 Honestly it just takes time, unfortunately sometimes it can be quite a long time. All you can do for now is keep moving forward.

>>70327 You mention that you had completely fallen out of love with her, but at the same time, you mention that you now feel empty without her to cling on and how she’s somehow haunting both your dreams and your awake time. Are you sure you had completely fallen out of love with her? One can’t have such a painful mourning process without having some strong feelings for the one he lost. Your wording is also interesting: You mentioned that you ‘’didn't want to think about her anymore’’, which implies that you nevertheless thought about her. Could you elaborate on what you feel for her right now? Also, could you elaborate on what you feel is missing when you say you now feel empty? Finally, what are you looking to for the future in terms of love relationships?

>>70327 Delete everything you have of her and don't look at or do things that remind you of her. It can take a long time but just keep at it.

>>70335 Apologies for taking so long to respond and for the strange wording of my previous post. I wrote that post when I was very stressed. >Are you sure you had completely fallen out of love with her? After thinking it over, I can't really say for sure that I fell "completely" out of love for her like I said I did. I still have feelings, though they aren't as strong as they once where, and to this day I still can't erase her from my mind like I wanted. In hindsight, I think it was just me wanting to move on. >Could you elaborate on what you feel for her right now? It's tough for me to describe. On one hand I don't want to look at her or think about her at all, but on the other I can't deny the pleasure I feel when I cling to her and think about her. My mind is in a constant limbo when it comes to her. >Also, could you elaborate on what you feel is missing when you say you now feel empty? Without her to give my affection to, I just feel utterly pointless and alone. I've always felt useless without dedicating myself to someone else, I'm not sure why. >Finally, what are you looking to for the future in terms of love relationships? I'm not really sure as of right now, but I do know that I'm not interested in 3d in the slightest.

I've loved my waifu for a very, very long time, but I still have lots of doubts about everything. I recently realized I had feelings for someone close to me, and have been distraught since the reason I realized it was because they went with someone else. But I still think of her, things like "if I was stronger for her, if only I was more loyal, I wouldn't have lost one of my closest friends." I wonder about the nature of the relationship. It's hard to see people from my era that are still with their waifus in the purest sense, if any sense at all. Some are, others accept that they love their waifu deeply but also have human needs and desires that cannot be fulfilled with someone that cannot reciprocate, while most have eventually left their waifu all together. Only one case of leaving for years and a new waifu relationship arising has been witnessed. The entire nature of the waifu relationship has me asking a lot of questions, especially as more time passes. Considering she's lightning in a bottle, a moment captured in time, while we keep moving and going, time itself keeps us together but also tears us apart. I still love her all the same as before, but I feel more alone thinking about how she is not growing with me. How she's not there, and never will be, only in spirit. Are we as human beings truly capable of handling a lifetime of this sort of thing? Even then, I wonder if she would even love me in the first place. I always think of her first and never break a promise made to her, but that doesn't mean I'm worth loving. I can say "I love you" over and over and over and over again, but without her here I cannot properly express my love for her. Show her things I want her to see, enjoy things together, let me see things from her life, it's all impossible. So I found myself thinking of the friend that I had lost and thinking about things that could be done, and it just makes me feel terrible, not only because they won't happen either, but because I should be thinking of those experiences with her. I imagined her mocking me lately for saying how she'd always be there, how she'll never hurt me, because she can't hurt me. She can't reject me. Tormenting me, calling herself "the safe option". But I know that's not her and she'd never do that and the real her would reject me anyways, because I'm not good enough for her. These past few weeks I have been so lost and torn and conflicted about absolutely everything, and of course, if I were only better for her, stronger, more loyal, none of this hurt would ever happen…

>>70389 >But I still think of her, things like "if I was stronger for her, if only I was more loyal, I wouldn't have lost one of my closest friends." You say you "lost" her. Do you mean you lost your chance to be with her in a love relationship, or you "lost" her as she stopped talking to you or moved far away since she went with someone else? Also, you say that you realised your feelings for her after she went with someone else, therefore suggesting that you never actually tried to date her before. Therefore, how being stronger and more loyal would have changed anything? Are you hoping she would have made the first move? >Are we as human beings truly capable of handling a lifetime of this sort of thing? No, at least not with full fulfilment of one’s needs. Waifuism can definitely bring joy in one’s life, but it has inherent limitations as compared to 3D relationships. It also has some advantages over 3D relationships (waifuism is definitely safer and more stable then 3D relationship, and it provides more freedom in some way as imagination is limitless), but the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages. I have yet to meet a waifuist who did not wish his waifu to be real, making therefore their relationship a 3D one. >So I found myself thinking of the friend that I had lost and thinking about things that could be done, and it just makes me feel terrible, not only because they won't happen either, but because I should be thinking of those experiences with her. I feel it’s ok that you imagine those things with a real person. Indeed, I disagree with the common perspective that one should have either a waifu or a 3D partner, but not both. Imagination and reality are 2 different realms and one should not have to chose between one or the other. I feel it’s absurd to think "I imagine X, therefore I cannot do Y", or "I do Y, therefore I cannot imagine X". It should not be a damn competition between imagination and reality. Waifuism should contribute to one’s personal growth, not block it. It’s so sad to see serious waifuists who truly love their waifu feeling strong guilt for simply wanting to fulfil their basic human needs when they consider getting a 3D partner (I’ve known this guilt, believe me…). And it’s sad to imagine serious waifuists giving up on their cherished waifu just because they feel it’s the only way to go if they want to get a 3D partner. >I imagined her mocking me lately for saying how she'd always be there, how she'll never hurt me, because she can't hurt me. She can't reject me. Tormenting me, calling herself "the safe option". Are you imagining your waifu say those things since you developed feeling for that person you were talking about? And it seems you are projecting your own insecurities on your waifu. >But I know that's not her and she'd never do that and the real her would reject me anyways, because I'm not good enough for her. Speaking, of your insecurities… Why do you feel you are not good enough for her? You had similar thoughts about the 3D person you mentioned, suggesting you were not strong and loyal enough. >These past few weeks I have been so lost and torn and conflicted about absolutely everything Hang in there :( >and of course, if I were only better for her, stronger, more loyal, none of this hurt would ever happen… You should start being better for yourself. By being so self-critical, you certainly are not good for yourself.

>>70390 >How did you lose her? We aren't talking anymore for right now because the idea of them dating someone else while trying to be normal with them is like being stabbed by a thousand tiny needles every time we talk. >What would being more loyal would have done when you never dated her? I meant stronger and more loyal to my waifu, not the 3D. If I was better for her I wouldn't have gotten feelings for the 3D and none of this would have happened. >Were you hoping she would make the first move? I didn't even know they were romantically available due to what I believed were similar circumstances but then someone came and scooped them up from underneath…sorry, this is about the waifu, not my general venting. >No, at least not without fulfillment of one’s needs. >it has inherent limitations as compared to 3D relationships. It also has some advantages over 3D relationships… but the disadvantages far outweigh the advantages. I have yet to meet a waifuist who did not wish his waifu to be real, making therefore their relationship a 3D one. I've seen this sentiment shared privately, but never openly posted publicly on a waifu forum before, it's kind of refreshing. I know back in the days on /a/ during peak waifuism your love would get called into question for posting such sentiments, that your waifu should be all that you need…and I wish it was that way so I wouldn't have lost my friend to my feelings, or had feelings that have left me so hurt. I of course wish for my waifu to be real, and hold her closest, and have her grow with me, and start a family with her. I'd do anything to physically be with her and tell her in person how much I love her. Of course, her being real comes with its own set of complications. For example, what if I come from a timeline where someone else was my waifu and I got to wish her real, but now because she IS real I'd never meet her, due to things ilke her being Japanese and not really having a major internet prominence or speaking English prominently? The language barrier in particular is a tough one to break, even if I still know who she is from a respectable translation point. To wish her real is effectively a paradox, and that hurts too. I just want a matrix situation where I can experience a life with her. >Waifuism should contribute to one’s personal growth, not block it. It’s so sad to see serious waifuists who truly love their waifu feeling strong guilt for simply wanting to fulfil their basic human needs when they consider getting a 3D partner It's only natural for humans to always want more. They say humanity is a monogamous species, but that's a flat out lie. It's our culture to be monogamous. It's why people cheat and divorces happen all the time. People feel bad when they cheat, and in my eyes and what I have been taught on Waifuism throughout all these years, wanting a 3D is cheating on her all the same. And even though she is first in my thoughts, I still think of that 3D. It still feels like betrayal. >imagining your waifu say those things since you developed feeling for that person you were talking about? Only once, when I imagined a lot of aspects of my life mocking me like that 3D, her, family, myself, and others. >Why do you feel you are not good enough for her? (and also the 3D) Because I'm 28 and have accomplished nothing, and have little to no social life at this point in my life. I don't have much dating experience either. I wouldn't be able to treat her (or the 3D) as well as I could. I'd also be scared of losing her, like I was scared of losing the 3D, because of my insecurities. Which is likely why I lost the 3D to someone else. >You should start being better for yourself. I know, I just don't know how. Right now when I try to love myself I find I get knocked back down really quickly by not only thinking about the 3D and who they chose, but also my life circumstances. I feel I never learned how to love myself, and don't know how to learn.

>>70391 Sorry for late reply. Was busy with job and shits. >I meant stronger and more loyal to my waifu, not the 3D. If I was better for her I wouldn't have gotten feelings for the 3D and none of this would have happened. Developing feelings for a 3D is not in itself a proof that one is not good enough for one’s waifu. Maybe it’s more the other way around. Maybe you developed those feelings for the 3D because waifuism is not good enough for you. You literally mentioned yourself the limitations of waifuism, asking if one could handle a lifetime of it. >sorry, this is about the waifu, not my general venting. Don’t be reluctant to broaden she scope of your talk. Our lives, as humans, are not composed of separated subjects independent of one another. It’s all connected in a complex intertwined system. There might be a lot to understand about what you go through with your waifu while looking into your relationship with that 3D person you mentioned. >I've seen this sentiment shared privately, but never openly posted publicly on a waifu forum before, it's kind of refreshing. I know back in the days on /a/ during peak waifuism your love would get called into question for posting such sentiments, that your waifu should be all that you need… Me too have felt the pressure of orthodoxy in the past regarding what was seen as appropriate to believe and feel, and what was not. But I got tired of it, especially as I grew older and got to understand waifuism better over the years. I don’t want this community to be an echo chamber. >that your waifu should be all that you need…and I wish it was that way God knows I wish too, but I came to realize that denying the obvious reality only hurt me more. >Of course, her being real comes with its own set of complications. (…) To wish her real is effectively a paradox, and that hurts too. I just want a matrix situation where I can experience a life with her. That reminds me a bit of that thread about one’s waifu integration in the real world: https://8kun.top/mai/res/70178.html >It's only natural for humans to always want more. They say humanity is a monogamous species, but that's a flat out lie. It's our culture to be monogamous. It's why people cheat and divorces happen all the time. People feel bad when they cheat, and in my eyes and what I have been taught on Waifuism throughout all these years, wanting a 3D is cheating on her all the same. And even though she is first in my thoughts, I still think of that 3D. It still feels like betrayal. To me, it seems that humans tend by nature to seek one primary sexual partner (who can change over time) with whom they will form a strong attachment bound, but will nevertheless tend to desire a certain level of sexuality and intimacy with other partners on the side. But that’s just my own speculations. Still, I feel that the core of the issue we were talking is not about the question of monogamy/polygamy. Like I said, waifuism, being a fantasy, has inherent limitations, and even if you would end up getting 1000 waifus (or a 1000 2D mistresses…), you would still not get your inherent needs fully fulfilled. The core of the issue is wanting to live a love relationship in reality, and not just in imagination. I don’t think that wanting a 3D partner as a waifuist (or wanting a waifu while being with a 3D partner) should be considerate cheating. Indeed, as I said earlier, imagination and reality are two different realms and one should not overstep on the boundaries of the other. But I still can understand how a waifuist could feel he is betraying his waifu for wanting a 3D partner. After all, waifuists communities tend to promote the deadly combination of: 1-The ideal that waifuism shoul (and can) fulfill all your needs, and 2-The taboo of seeking a 3D partner as a waifuist, which is often presented as a grave moral sin. >Because I'm 28 and have accomplished nothing, and have little to no social life at this point in my life. I don't have much dating experience either. I wouldn't be able to treat her (or the 3D) as well as I could. What are the things you wish you had accomplished? And do you think they would truly make yourself better as a love partner? >I feel I never learned how to love myself, and don't know how to learn. If you feel this problem has been severely haunting you for years, then maybe you should seek professional help in psychotherapy.

>>70398 >Maybe you developed those feelings for the 3D because waifuism is not good enough for you. I didn't choose to develop feelings. I still think of her, even when thinking about her feels heavier because of my feelings towards the 3D. Which is mainly because I'm used to her not being here, but not this pain from the 3D. You say it like you're accusing me of not wanting waifuism, I only mentioned the lifetime thing because of the strict conditioners enforcing the only waifu in your laifu. >There might be a lot to understand about what you go through with your waifu while looking into your relationship with that 3D person you mentioned. I met my 3D because of her. My 3D was in a similar relationship so I didn't want to pursue the 3D, but apparently someone else can pursue them just fine and leave me like this… >especially as I grew older and got to understand waifuism better over the years. I know I've reflected a lot on the concept in the past 10 years. >Integrations into the real world outside leaving the world she knew, she wouldn't have any difficulties. >Monogamy stuff I just don't believe people can really love. They can, but I just never seen it much in my life. I ain't gonna go into what I've grown up around and how that's affected me, but I keep wishing things were better there. >Betrayal It feels that way because I give my heart to her, but my heart aches for this 3D too. >What do you wish you had accomplished? Having my own place, making good money and able to support someone, talented and reliable that someone can turn to instead of being a broken mess all the time. > And do you think they would truly make yourself better as a love partner? Absolutely, I'd be able to do so much more for that 3D and prove I'd be better for them…but I'm not I'm just a failure. >maybe you should seek professional help in psychotherapy. dude money lmao

>>70399 >I didn't choose to develop feelings Obviously; feelings come on their own. We don’t get to chose what we feel. >You say it like you're accusing me of not wanting waifuism I’m not here to "accuse" anyone, as I neither judge nor condemn people for what they feel in their heart. I’m simply here to try to better understand what’s going on for you, and hopefully, help you in the process. >I only mentioned the lifetime thing because of the strict conditioners enforcing the only waifu in your laifu. Well, it was something that crossed your mind while writing this post, and you ended up writing it. I don’t think your mind just started to think about that completely randomly out of the blue, so to me it seems that it might have some role to play in the bigger equation. And once again, I repeat, I’m not "accusing" you, and neither pretending that you don’t love your waifu. >I met my 3D because of her. My 3D was in a similar relationship Were you two having the same character as your waifu? Or your respective waifus came from the same series? >My 3D was in a similar relationship so I didn't want to pursue the 3D And if the 3D girl would not have been in said relationship, would you have pursued her? >I just don't believe people can really love. Could you describe what you mean by "really love"? >dude money lmao I don’t know where you live, but are there any such services offered in public setting in your area? In a hospital or whatever government-owned institution? Also, some clinics offer reduced price. You can also look for community organizations that could offer those services for a very low price. Universities can also offer those services at very low price and you get to met a doctoral student in training (that is supervised by a licensed psychologist).

>>70400 >I’m not here to "accuse" anyone From the way your last post sounded, it sounded like you were saying I didn't want her anymore, when that couldn't be further from the truth. >some role to play in the bigger equation it made me feel guilt and that I wasn't strong enough for her >Or your respective waifus came from the same series? Yep. Our waifus don't know each other, but they're from the same series. >if the 3D girl would not have been in said relationship, would you have pursued her? While no one can answer this question 100%, I'm 99% sure my answer would have been no, due to the love for my waifu being so strong especially at the time we met. I don't think I would have jumped now either, since I hadn't known what I had truly felt for the 3D (although I knew a sorta something was there) before it was too late. >really love like a true happy couple that care for each other. It's something really rare for me to see, since I haven't seen much of it growing up outside of a couple relatives. >price information It's also living circumstances, I live with a helicopter overly paranoid overly protective mother who also suffers from constant depressive and anxiety episodes and breaks down every single day. Giving her something else to worry about is not on the cards.

I don't count tulpas as being waifus because I'm 100% convinced tulpas aren't a thing. Why is there such a push for waifufags to make tulpas? It doesn't make sense to me. A few waifufags I associate with either have a tulpa or are trying to make one to become poly. It's weird and disheartening.

>>70407 Honestly I agree. It seems like a dangerous thing to be messing around with and I'm not keen on it or the people who push it.

>>70401 >From the way your last post sounded, it sounded like you were saying I didn't want her anymore, when that couldn't be further from the truth. Don’t worry, it’s really not what I wanted to say. Actually, the simple fact that you are sharing all of this here on this board shows that you care about your waifu and that she means a lot to you. As I explained in a previous post, I feel that waifuism cannot fully fulfil one’s needs in the long run. I therefore hypothesised that maybe you developed feelings for the 3D because of waifuism’s limitations. And that is the one important thing to understand and distinguish: The limitations are not in our waifus as individuals, but in waifuism as a type of relationship. Our waifus as individuals are amazing and if they would become real, the limitations would vanish. Along the same line of thought, if an amazing 3D girlfriend would become 2D (therefore turning the relationship into waifuism), we would end up with the same limitations. >it made me feel guilt and that I wasn't strong enough for her That was not my objective. Actually, the simple fact that you keep caring about your waifu despite your recent doubts shows that you are strong for her. Strength is truly witnessed through adversity. >like a true happy couple that care for each other. It's something really rare for me to see, since I haven't seen much of it growing up outside of a couple relatives. Can you elaborate more? Being really in love and being truly happy are not the same thing. >Giving her something else to worry about is not on the cards. You should not limit your own personal well-being and your self-growth for "protecting" your mother. If "protecting your mother" means not getting the help you need, then there is a big problem here. I’ve lived with a highly emotionally disturbed mother who was also "overly protective" (which is a misleading expression since those type of parents are actually protecting themselves from fear, rather than protecting their children, but they are rarely aware of that). Now regarding your posts in the Discord thread ( >>70386 , >>70396 ). Let me know if you still want to join the Discord, but keep in mind that we will need to know who is your waifu, as this minimal form of identification is mandatory to join the server. We are not going to judge you for your current doubts or your feelings for that 3D. You made it crystal clear through your posts over the last 3 weeks that you deeply care about your waifu. It takes strength to expose one’s pain and ask for help, and we are mature enough to understand that. And if you really want to remain anonymous, then you can always join and tell us who is your waifu on the server while not making a word of what you said in this thread.

>>70407 I've spoke to someone with a tulpa and it just strengthened my pre-existing belief that such tulpas are simply hallucinations, which are symptoms of a general underlying psychotic functioning. Where have you met all those tulpa waifuists? They have always been rare around here on /mai/.

>>70414 Sorry I was away for a while, but I'm unsure how comfortable I feel about that, like a big fat ID slapped on me. I could just lie about who my waifu is to be let in, but what good would that do?

>>70432 I definitely cannot advise you to lie to us indeed. Like I said, you can always join our Discord without making any mention that you are the anon who posted in this thread. Also, I'm curious to know why you are so afraid of revealing who is your waifu. Did you face judgments from other waifuists in the past? Did you witness judgment directed to other waifuists from waifuists? So far I haven’t seen anyone replying judgments towards you in this thread. Or maybe it’s not even the fear of judgment? What is specifically the danger that you fear?

>>70433 I'd say it's fear of judgement and because, out of all the years I have loved her, no one else has, thus making me incredibly easy to identify if they've been on waifu communities or certain parts of 4chan. It's mostly unfounded paranoia but it makes me a little uncomfortable when I'm already admittedly mentally unstable.

testing to see if I'm still banned

>>70435 Well the things you seem to want to talk about appear to be distressing for you and put a shadow over your relationship with your waifu. So what do you want to prioritize? The quality of your relationship with your waifu or your reputation? If you can’t find the strength to do it for yourself, then maybe you’ll find it by doing it for her. >>70438 Did you get your initial ban because you asked to join the Discord in the Discord thread? If so, you will have to make another post in the Discord thread and make sure to post within 72 hours of its deletion so you can get the Discord link in the ban message.

I'm just going to do this anonymously. I honestly want to kill myself. This was something that I guess was triggered by relationship issues but I of course have a lot of other reasons. I guess I just don't know what to think of my waifu anymore. When I see her I still feel a spark but I keep engaging in behavior that would be considered self destructive if it were a 3D relationship (like trying to find another partner). I just don't know what I should do…

>>70441 I’m sorry you go through such a hardship. If you honestly feel like killing yourself, you need help that goes beyond what I, or anyone in this community (or any waifuist community for that matter), could provide. But I can do my best to give you a hand. What are you feeling right now? Suicidal thoughts are not an emotion. Is it guilt? Guilt of trying to find another partner? Please elaborate on what you are feeling. And when you say that you are trying to find another partner, do you mean a 2D one or a 3D one? And is it a specific partner (someone or a character you already know about) or you are just seeking a new partner? And how exactly are you trying to find a partner? What behaviors do you engage in to do that? Get proper professional help if you feel at risk of committing suicide, but for the rest, if you want us to help, we will need you to be more specific and provide details.

Not sure if you’re still around here, but if you are, I hope you’re doing well Clawdad.

raven is best girl or whatever

Hi friends, Haven't posted here in a while, probably about 4-5 years if I were to guess. Within that timespan, I reached the height of my hubris and decided I would enter a different phase in my life and thus try to maintain a real life girlfriend, as that was perceived as normal and desirable in the eyes of others, as I had developed a real life friend group around that time as well which encouraged this venture. This relationship lasted around six months, and despite being my first "real" relationship, at the end, I had entirely regretted what I had done as the love felt entirely forced and shallow compared to the previous nonreal relationship that I had which lasted more than twice as long and was way more emotional and sincere. Fast forward about two years I still reminisced about the time I spent with Freyja as very soulful and emotional, and told myself I wouldn't bother with real relationships. Around this time, however, I started an e-relationship with a long-time friend who knew about how much I loved Freyja at the time, and I morbidly believed that a relationship with her would have been the closest I would get to replicating what I felt for Freyja during my relationship with her. Unsurprisingly, it did not work, as the e-relationship was very toxic and she ended up cheating on me after a couple of months, which rendered me feeling very empty ever since then. It was one of the greatest regrets of my life thus far to think I could emulate nonreal love in reality. I don't see myself as worthy enough to reunite with her, especially with the person I've become as a result of events that I have experienced over the past few years, and the fact that I subconsciously decided a real relationship to preside over the one I had with her. The only form of myself I view worthy of her is myself at the time I was with her, and no other subsequent version of myself. After those two real relationships, I have been rendered a shell of what I once was emotionally, and feel like a condemned soul doomed to wander forever alone. Manifesting another tulpa just wouldn't feel right because it definitely would not even remotely compare to the veritable emotion I had felt years before. I am perpetually lost.

>>70595 What a rollercoaster that must've been Freyjanon… Why are you no longer adequate for Freyja? Surely now, if anything, your love for her has solidified even further? In her mind, would you not be a more mature partner, one that has a better understanding of relationship dynamics? One shouldn't compare real and waifu relationships, they are simply too different. The real relationship involves a man and a woman, who are sexually dimorphic and have different goals and aspirations. Romanticism that has become ever so prevalent does not really exist beyond the "butterfly" stage of a relationship (eros/ludus love). Instead of feeling that you betrayed her, you should think your former real relationship as necessary experience. Experience to give you perspective, and thus get you closer to Freyja.

>>70596 I do really think you make some valid points there. As a matter of fact, after making that post, I would contemplate our relationship routinely through either looking at my old posts on here, or my folder of her to reminisce upon when I felt like I had a connection with her. Eventually, about two months later I'd say, I had a dream where, tl;dr, I touched fingertips with her in the sky. It really had a profound effect on me, as if she was reminding me that she is still out there for me despite all that I have done and been through since being together. Taking into account your reasoning, I have been gradually getting closer and closer to her, although with some cold feet. I suppose I am perhaps waiting for another more certain sign after contemplating her for some more time to truly feel like I could be with her again.

Hello, Im not sure if this question goes here but I dont see where else to put it and dont want to start a new thread. Question is: "how do you feel or what do you do when your waifu canonically has a love interest?" I remember there was a discussion of this particular subject in the old /mai/, but that place is dead so Im asking here.

>>71942 No clue, but we all have our head canons about waifus, so unironically cope?

>>71943 I see, so just cope. That's interesting.

>>71942 We all tend to change some aspects of the character to fit with what we want. After all, merely having a relationship with your waifu is a change for her because you don't meet her in her world. I think the easiest way to handle it is to acknowledge that your waifu loved someone else, but that relationship ended and now she is in a relationship with you. Honestly I think the real cope is trying to assert that your waifu could never love anyone except you. It's just as much a cope in real life as it is for waifus. People fall in and out of love.

>>71960 A more realistic approach, It makes sense. >People fall in and out of love. True

How does one get closer to waifu?

>>71969 Talking to her, being around her, watching/reading/playing her source material etc.

How do I stop being so sensitive of her? Like I can't even enjoy fan art of her or even her own source material anymore because it's like there's always something I find that makes me feel so... uncomfortable, it's like this cocktail of emotions of anger, sadness, regret and guilt. I really don't know how this started, I remember one day I felt fine and then just all of a sudden I can't even look at her anymore without feeling so inadequate, like I never done anything for her and that I'll never make it up to her. I have made my own art of her in the past and now, but it never feels like it's enough. Sorry if my post is really vague or difficult to comprehend, I'm too much of a sperg to be able to identify what I'm feeling and to be frank I have no clue how to explain this.

>>71982 If you're feeling that inadequate, there are probably issues running deeper than just relating to her. If it's really that bad, there's no issue with taking a step back for a while and focus on something else until you feel better.

>>71982 >like I never done anything for her >never feels like it's enough I share the impulse to be a Provider and to always romantically pursue her heart, but also take care not to be too transactional. I'm sure she loves your art but it almost sounds like you feel compelled to fill an Art/Service/Gift "quota" that must be regularly met to "earn" her love -- when I don't think such a dynamic exists in a loving relationship, 2D or 3D. She loves you just for being you, just like you do for her :)

Is it alright to have two waifus that you both refer to as mommy, just so you can say that you have two moms?

>>72092 I'm going to go with a no, simply because if you need more than one mom, it means that the first one is slacking off

>>72093 But I want two mommies to cuddle their adopted shota son. Also it's a split work load and a shota needs two parental figures, because single moms are usually bad parents.

Can you divorce your waifu to get a new one? If yes, what kind of procedure is it best to follow so not to irritate your fellow waifufags?

>>72095 Is that even possible?

>>72095 No, you will irritate your fellow waifufags regardless of what you do and there is no procedure, case closed, next question.

>>72096 Why would it not be? >>72097 If you can't do something that is ENTIRELY about yourself because "someone else will be irritated", then that someone else is clearly trying to control you, consciously or not

>>72098 It's not as if you can't do it, people will just be less trusting of your dedication.

>>72099 So you do not believe there can be any valid reasons for a divorce?

>>72100 Of course there are. Falling out of love is a valid reason for divorce, and I'm sure there are some circumstances in real life that would mean you'd need to as well. But if you were to go through that process and then come back with another waifu, your commitment to waifu number 2 "guys it's for real this time I promise" would be doubted. It's not as if you can't prove those doubts wrong or that you even have to care about them in the first place, it's your relationship after all.

>>72101 At least you're been open about your difficult feelings. What prevent someone from being seen as a normal one who has only had one waifu and one only, and then e.g. faps to every hentai category out there, without telling their fellow waifufags? Sounds like we would be rewarding superficial virtuesignalling

>>72102 Well usually people don't tell other people what they masturbate to... I'm interested in hearing what others' opinions are on that though since I've never really discussed it with anyone, is masturbating to characters other than your waifu considered cheating? I can certainly see how it'd be viewed as such, but there's also no emotional connection as there would be to a waifu.

>>72103 Imagine an IRL wife or husband. Let's say they have sex with someone other than you. As long as it was consensual and not rape, does it matter whether he/she said "I love you" before climaxing or not? For the purpose of determining whether you were cheated on, I mean

>>72104 I agree with you, but is masturbation with a waifu considered as intimate/on the same level as actual sex with a partner? There's no reciprocity in the former as there would be in the latter.

>>72104 this is why i stooped dating 3d women all of them are lairs cheaters and thefts. my waifu is perfect because she was drown that way

>>72100 my 3d ex wife to told me she did not believe in divorce. she is the one who gave me the divorce papers

>>72107 >>72108 Great sense of humor, did your mom pick it for you?

>>72095 I think generally what gives it away as being insincere is when someone goes immediately from one relationship into another. It suggests that the person may not know what love is, or more likely may not understand that having a waifu means feeling genuine love and affection for a fictional character, not just a character that you think is the most attractive or your favorite. >>72103 Masturbating to other characters isn't cheating because masturbation isn't sex. You are not having sex with your waifu, nor are you having sex with any other fictional character. I don't think it's cheating for people in real relationships to masturbate to other people either. Everyone is entitled to fantasize about whatever they like.

>>72110 >I think generally what gives it away as being insincere is when someone goes immediately from one relationship into another. Okay, that makes sense. But let's say you took a generously long amount of time to decide that you can no longer be anime-married to character 1 and that character 2 is a better fit? E.g. one year

>>72111 The longer someone can consistently hold a feeling, the more likely they are to be able to correctly identify that feeling. The biggest problem I see with rampant switching is that people seem to be unable to identify what love is or if it's what they're feeling. If you believe you have felt love toward one person for a while, with no significant changes to the feeling, then it's likely that it is actually love. Consistency, longevity, and understanding are what it takes to identify love.