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Possessing someone else’s body to be with your waifu 16crystals 01/23/2022 (Sun) 19:40:26 No. 70821
Possessing someone else’s body to be with your waifu In the 1990 movie Ghost, a dead man takes possession of a woman’s body (with her consent) so he can share a dance with his (living) lover. Here’s the scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FdGaamBXVg If it was possible, would you: 1-Have your waifu take possession of someone else’s body so you two could share a dance? 2-Take possession of someone else’s body (probably someone living in your waifu’s world) so you could share a dance with your waifu? 3-How about making love? Would you feel like cheating having sex with your waifu while she’s in possession of someone else’s body? Would you feel cheated on if your waifu was having sex with you while you were in possession of someone else’s body? 4-Would you mind if you were to get possession of someone of the other gender? Would you mind if your waifu were to get possession of someone of the other gender? 5-Would you choose to remain in the other person’s body if it was the only option for you to remain with your waifu for ever? We assume everyone consents in all scenarios and everyone returns safely to their own body after (well, except for option 5). Feel free to elaborate on any other specific cases.
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Personally, I would definitely be ok with option 1, and while I would definitely prefer her to take possession of a girl’s body, I would not mind too much if she took possession of a guy’s body. It’s just a dance after all. Option 2 seems really scary. Taking possession of someone else’s body scares me, not only for being into someone else’s body but also for leaving my own body behind. But considering we stated that such a process would be safe, I would do it. This option is also better than option 1 on one aspect: I would get to see Flandre’s body and fully be with her (both soul/mind and body). Regarding option 3, I would not feel cheated on nor feel I’m cheating on Flandre. What matters in that regard is the soul/mind, not the body. I would therefore do it. Regarding option 4, although I would rather take possession of a man’s body, I can’t deny that I also feel turned on by the idea of taking possession of a girl’s body! So I would go with either option. When it comes to Flandre taking possession of a guy’s body… it becomes far less appealing… As it would be a once in a life time chance to make love with her, I would probably give it a try and see where it goes. Regarding option 5, that’s a really scary one. I am not sure I can decide yet…
Edited last time by 16crystals on 01/23/2022 (Sun) 19:42:01.
>1 i don't think i'd want that. it's kind of awkward to imagine having a dance with a 3d person that also might not look like waifu. i know some cute 3d girls that faintly make me think of waifu, but i don't think i'd enjoy seeing them up close. maybe i could get used to it, but i'm not sure i could love her like i love her now like that. <wow anon that's so superficial of you >2 i do think i'd want that. it's kind of hard, because headcanon implies it's not real, but i guess we have to assume she would like me, too. if i had a choice, it'd have to be a male. >3 from a point of view that waifu does exist in a way i could reach, it seems like cuckoldry of the highest degree for me to lead someone to take my waifu's virginity. from a point of view that waifu does not exist in a way i could reach, it seems less painful, if not necessary. if i had the choice to be in possession of this person as long as i want, then it seems a bit of a no-brainer to adapt to a new life... although that brings other challenges to it, as well. i cannot access her, so if i can by the best of my ability simulate myself—even if it looks unlike myself—being with her, that would be more preferable. >4 i would prefer not to be a female. i will to not love her the same if i was female. if waifu was male, that'd be awkward. it's a bit hard, because 3d men are more approachable to me, but obviously masculine, while 3d women are kinda gross, but feminine. >5 yes, but only if i had some level of autonomy over who i become... which you seem to imply. >We assume everyone consents buddy i don't need permission, just potential.
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>>70821 Ann's story takes place in a world almost identical to our own. The way in which you interact with her game is with a self-insert silent protagonist. Because of this, I usually just think of the things I do in the game as if I did them. Saying that I possessed someone in order to spend time with Ann might be correct, but I feel it doesn't really go with the spirit of the question. 1. Yes 2. Already yes, but assuming I had to be someone other than the protagonist, also yes, as long as she would be okay with it. 3. Yes to her using someone else's body, if she was okay with it. Yes to me being in someone other than the protagonist's body, if she were okay with it. 4. I would be okay with being a girl, because even if it were uncomfortable or I wasn't able to enjoy having sex, I would at least be able to touch Ann, though I wonder if she would be fine with it. I'm not sure if I would be able to do anything sexually with Ann as a man unless she could make a convincing female though. I would want to try my best, but I have limits. 5. I feel this is a moral question. I would essentially be killing someone and taking over their body. I would really not want to do this to one of our friends, since they are also someone I care about and I would not be able to spend time with them. I think if I also took over someone else, I would be losing the memories I've made with her already by being forced to be someone else. And let's not even get into how she would react if she ever found out. I just don't think the pros are worth the cons, unfortunately. The only person I would ever want to be in her world is the person through which I've originally experienced it.
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Body possession is a pretty major facet of Ion's source material, though the consensual aspect is dubious at best, and its consequences drive a lot of the plot. So, with that in mind: 1- Yes. I don't see any potential complications with that whatsoever. 2- Yes. Her world is either significantly worse than or about on par with ours depending on whether we're talking about EXA_PICO or her Earth, either way it would be a minor inconvenience for a short time at worst. 3- That depends. If I or her had permanent possession of that body I would be fine with it, but I wouldn't want to expose either of us to potential long-term problems from having sex with a temporary body. 4- That could be a problem, especially with intimacy. We're both straight, so I would imagine there would be a great deal of difficulty with sex, if nothing else. The simplest solution might be to transition back afterwards, but even that wouldn't really be the same as having compatible bodies by birth. 5- As long as it's consensual, definitely. It's inevitable that there would be some problems logistically, but I think either of us would be resourceful enough to work it out within a couple of months at most, and if it would be one of our bodies permanently I'm fairly confident we'd become adjusted to it eventually.
>>70821 This is an interesting question,. >1 It'd be weird, and I'd most likely not want this scenario to happen due to cognitive dissonance. PaRappa is a cartoon dog, so I would probably be shocked if I found out that he was really on a 3DPD human male's body. >2 Arguably the best option. It'd be pretty hard to get used to at first, but I'd eventually manage to make it work, the hardest part being trying to explain myself if I ever came out instead of trying to act just enough like the character I control the body of to avoid any suspicions. And I'd see his face with me, hold his hand and cherish him even more. >3 It'd be very weird and awkward. And thar's all I'll say about it. >4 For the former, maybe. It'd bring advantages and disadvantages. For the latter, only if he looks similar enough to how he looks like in canon. >5 Undecided. I'll do that for later.
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>>70823 >i don't think i'd want that. it's kind of awkward to imagine having a dance with a 3d person that also might not look like waifu. Personally, I think I would close my eyes and focus more on the spiritual connection through the body than the body itself. > to lead someone to take my waifu's virginity. In my perspective, the "someone" is gone (or is somewhere else). You (your mind/soul/consciousness) take control of that body, that shell, that then becomes your vessel. >from a point of view that waifu does not exist in a way i could reach Yes, we assume she is in "her world", and that this is the only way to have interaction with her "directly". >yes, but only if i had some level of autonomy over who i become... which you seem to imply. You remain the same person (i.e. keep the same mind/soul/consciousness). But yeah, let,s assume you have some level of autonomy over the body you will possess (so don’t worry about getting a morbidly obese body filled with tumors). >>70824 >as long as she would be okay with it. Yes, as stated, everyone consents. >I would essentially be killing someone and taking over their body. I should have clarified this one. As stated, everyone consents, so let’s assume the other person gets a new body. Would you be ok if you both did a permanent body exchange, and he would end up living in our world, inside of your original body? > I think if I also took over someone else, I would be losing the memories I've made with her already by being forced to be someone else. No, we assume here that all of your mind/soul/consciousness (which includes your memory) gets inside the new body. >And let's not even get into how she would react if she ever found out. As stated, everyone is consenting, which includes Ann. >>70826 > I wouldn't want to expose either of us to potential long-term problems from having sex with a temporary body. What types of problems are you thinking about? >>70827 >It'd be weird, and I'd most likely not want this scenario to happen due to cognitive dissonance. PaRappa is a cartoon dog, so I would probably be shocked if I found out that he was really on a 3DPD human male's body. Would you feel it would be weirder if he would take possession of a real dog’s body? Anthropomorphic animals (such as PaRappa, Sonic, Mickey, etc.) are interesting cases. We often describe them as humanized animals, but they could also be animalised humans in some way. >It'd be pretty hard to get used to at first, but I'd eventually manage to make it work, the hardest part being trying to explain myself if I ever came out instead of trying to act just enough like the character I control the body of to avoid any suspicions. I’m not so sure to understand what you mean here. We assume PaRappa is aware that this is you inside someone else’s body.
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>>70828 >What types of problems are you thinking about? Attachment, relationship problems, pregnancy and STDs were the ones that came to mind immediately.
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>>70828 It's not so much my memories that are not transferring, it's that I already have an avatar within her world that complicates things. The self-insert of the story has already done the things with Ann that I, now a stranger, imagine we have done together. I can say that on day X Ann and I did Y at Z, but if I'm not the person she did it with anymore, then who am I? It really complicates things. I guess if she's okay with it, that can make things easier, but it's still pretty hard to wrap my head around. Who is my ex-avatar now? Is he still me? If Ann and the protagonist(me) were dating, what happens now?
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>>70821 Interesting thread OP, now I cannot help but think the song's lyrics really fit a waifuist's story. Option 1 and 2 sound alright, it's just a dance. Option 3 is a lot more controversial since sex is actually a big deal, it's something that can strengthen a romantic bond or destroy it for good (roughly the same ambiguous relationship that there is between fire and houses). If we want to argue in favour of the "nothing wrong with that" side, we may say that this is the only chance you and your waifu get to physically touch each other. The problem is that you have only borrowed a body and not permanently seized it, and this would cause some messy feelings once the possession is over, even if we assume that everyone is formally consenting to the plan. Basically what >>70826 and >>70829 said on the matter. Therefore, I am compelled to say option 3 is not as good of an idea as options 1 and 2 and should be discarded. As for the other two options >Would you mind if you were to get possession of someone of the other gender? Would you mind if your waifu were to get possession of someone of the other gender? It is very difficult for me to imagine my waifu as a guy, it would have a gallant bishounen a la Arthur Pendragon from Fate, but even then no attempt at a purely romantic situation should follow, we should simply hang out with each other as best friends while waiting for the situation to go back to normal. The same applies to the case where I become the same sex as her. >Would you choose to remain in the other person’s body if it was the only option for you to remain with your waifu for ever? You seem to be implying that everyone in my waifu's world is immortal, but the real issue is that I would effectively rob the body's previous owner of his life. I am fairly sure my waifu would disapprove of such blatant instrumentalisation due to her being naturally empathetic
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>>70821 I think for me, 1 and 2 would be fine. There's no harm in that. Any further would be more complicated for me. I don't think I could ever do 4; I'm a man and my mind is a man's. And I wouldn't be fine with 3 unless 5 had happened, but what kind of person would consent to being a backseat in their own body? Even if they truly wanted it, it seems cruel to me; like feeding a fetish or addiction. Perhaps there's someone out there who could convince me otherwise, but I think in 99% of cases I'd refuse all but 1 or 2. After all, Hana wouldn't be very happy with me victimizing someone just to be with her. I think part of the reason I think this is because I'm a singer: my voice is a central aspect of my identity and it's a product of my body. It's a major component of how I express my love for her. If I were to inhabit someone's body -even for the rest of my life- it would never feel like it was mine. Especially if it was a woman's body. I feel like my body is just as much a part of me as my soul is, just far less permanent. Similarly, her body and soul are equally her; I could close my eyes and pretend for one dance, but not for a lifetime. It's her mouth I want to kiss, her hands I want to hold. Not someone else's. 3 wouldn't be cheating, no, but it wouldn't be quite right either. My perfect romantic experience is with pic related. And the more I think about it, the more Hana would agree. She expresses herself with her hands: through her shooting and her ikebana. The muscle memory she's built up is a huge part of her life's experiences. She probably wouldn't mind a little switching for a dance, but I doubt she'd approve of anything more. She probably wouldn't think highly of me for having done it either. So in conclusion: 1 and 2 are yes, no for the others.
>>70821 You waifu probably has a love interest in her story, so that'd be the guy who's body you take (a hidden bonus if he's some sort of le badass alpha chad character). The problem would be that you would have to find a way to live as the guy. Would you take possession of him as he suffers some major blow to the head in one of his many battles? then you could pass off the new behaviors as the result of amnesia, brain damage, or something. Would you instead opt for a version of possession were you two share a body? you could then pass yourself of to the guy and everyone else, that you are some hidden alternate personality of the guy. Would you be honest and straight up tell people that you jacked the body of the hero of their world just to get with his girl? What about the fact that you'd have to fight the guy's battles from now on? the bad guy is unlikely to relent on destroying their arch nemesis just because he starts acting weird and tells him that he's someone else in the hero's body, if anything, that might make the bad guy see these events as an opportunity to get rid of their "arch" while he's exceptionally vulnerable (sure, you might have the guys powers, but do you know how to use them effectively? you might be strong enough to trounce him, but do you have the fighting will to use that strength?). Lastly, the guy is probably the guy who gets all the tail, and his personality or charisma is a big part of that, unless you can at least match his level of "pull power", your waifu might decide she doesn't like you so much anymore even if she genuinely still thinks you are her boo (because you deceived her by taking her lover's body, you creep).
>>70854 That's a really contrived scenario that could really only apply to a pretty small subset of characters. Also >We assume everyone consents in all scenarios and everyone returns safely to their own body after
>>70854 >>70855 Anon is making a valid point, though. Suppose that my waifu has got a canon love interest, why should this guy consent to me possessing him? Is it because he would not view it as cheating, given that it's still his body who gets to interact with her?
>>70857 >why should this guy consent to me possessing him Maybe he wants to see another world or something, either way it wouldn't really be your problem, since in the scenario he does consent regardless of motivation, and she consents to you being in that body. Said body belonging to a love interest is his own headcanon.


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