dont care FBK still here :3

I checked the archive for my first organized post compiling criticism of HoloEN management's severe negligence and incompetence and it was exactly four years and one day ago. For those past four years I have been completely unable to understand how people can look at this company and not see a raging inferno of failure in company management. The only way not to notice is to watch maybe one or two streams a month and never pay attention when talents mention management or company decisions, and to be basically unaware of Holoearth. Anyone coming to that realization today is certifiably mentally retarded or literally does not watch Hololive at all.

there's people actually going to off themselves since /vt/ is down and they have no outlet to vent.

>cry about it chumcucks i can't believe she said that

>>6821 No one ares about jp

>>6821 I dont trust her anymore if she was including EN

>>6650 What did they fuck up exactly?

End of an era.

>>6824 Can you lik that post?

>>6797 >>6802 All of them are twitch streamers now, with Woolie and Pat still hanging out and doing a weekly podcast called Castle Super Beast. Woolie has a vod channel on yt called WoolieVS where he also posts additional content that isn't just streams.

enreco is gonna be pretty barren kek

>>6821 BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED

>>6757 "Sucks man" >>6821 Manic moment. But Fbk's position has diminished quite a bit since several years ago when that statement was made. So should we reduce our faith in hololive to, say, 30%?

>>6821 Japs are used to retarded management and bullshit work culture though.

>>6853 My post doesn't even matter because, by that point, there was already a two-year-old copypasta from before HoloEN that had grown so long it had to be split in two. The entire upper management has to be completely purged. If you don't want Motoaki to be terminated, you are an anti.

>>6863 With everyone bailing after enreco im 100% certain all the talents thought it was giga cringe and decided to quit because of that event.

>4chan will be back in 15 to 21 days Bros maybe vt will be back by May 1st

>>6821 What about Chink streams last year

>>6821 Fubuki owes me sex and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>6898 Says who?

>>6666 bebenbary bweab...

>all these streams getting pushed back Did she really not tell any of her "friends" what was happening? Like everyone seemed to know what mumei was doing beforehand but gura just fucked a bunch of people's schedules.

Oh just a reminder that Lapuchan is doing her first ever Genshit stream on b2.

>>6898 what's wrong with staying in the superior website, fellow imageboard poster. just don't be a cuck

>>6913 My uncle has 4chins.

>>6842 I thought I'd feel more, based on how into holoEN was around 2020-2022. I think the constant unexplained absences and unicorn spergouts from the other fans kind of made me care less and less over time sana's graduation was a lot more shocking/saddening

This was a really chilling post when I saw it, you really, really have to wonder what changed if they don't even want to coast like they have been doing for years.

:(

>>6913 Mods on 4chan irc

>>6829 Nice excuse for selling off her shaved pubes

>>6916 >friends All vtuber corpo friendships are fake as fuck, they're nothing more than coworkers.

>>6821 cover drone

>>6940 see >>6454

>>6926 probably being forced to fuck shareholder ojichans behind the scenes

>applies for a company during pandemic >it's 2025 >wdym i can't work from home anymore? >i quit

>>6940 >All vtuber corpo friendships are fake as fuck exceptions include gura/ame and selen/pomu, those are definitely real

I wonder how justice and their fans feel that right after they join 4 graduations happen

>>6454 Dooby/ame is such a fucking weirdo

>4chan gets hacked >Gura graduades Well, at least it didn't start an another war like with Rushia. It can't be a coincidence.

>>7001 two more weeks

I wish SocksAgency could hire her as notGura

>Mint impromptu stream More suicide hotlines just got hung up on

>>6990 Maybe some fan can explain it to me, but what's the point in adding more and more girls whose niche is exactly the same as 5 other ones.

>>7001 It will end the war, May 1st will have big happenings. Just 2 more weeks

I'm glad 4chan is down and I am really glad all you retards are still being insufferable even here. With this graduation and the death of /vt/ I am just done with this part of the hobby.

>>1965 (omg first 8chan post!!1) STOCK MARKET CRASHING WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>6493 Incorrect. That FTC rule banning noncompetes is as good as dead now.

>>6821 Lying slut.

>gura graduates >becomes very active in her pl how would chumbuds feel?

>>7043 Based blog man, see you in May.

>>7043 see you next week

imagine how fast this thread would have been on 4channel

>>7061 That's what I'm hoping for?

>>7047 I just bought nvda stocks

>>7043 There's a reason vtubing, streaming and parasocial shit keeps growing despite everything: it's because everyone is terminally online. If you're here it's already over, good luck making new friends in current year.

>>7025 the tiny green ghost will soothe the pain

>>7030 if you mean niche as in the layout of their streams, they're very limited so that will obviously happen but they all at least have different personalities

>>7061 I expect her to be as active as she is now, it's not like she was forbidden from streaming before.

>>7076 poor fella

>>7087 Hell, even if you do make friends in those vital formative years, you won't keep them. At best you'll find a childhood sweetheart and marry her, and maybe you'll stay together, but everyone else? Guaranteed to drift because it'll be too inconvenient to keep meeting up and hanging out. The status quo literally does not support the idea of friendship because they want to sell parasocial relationships and AI chatbots to you.

>>7109 >wants to leave for over a year >wadahek why she no do thing in place she want leave?

She will stay with me 4ever

The 4chan IRC mods are saying the site should be back within a month. They’re not too concerned about being doxxed either, since most of the leaked info is inaccurate and many of them have already changed their IPs. I'm kinda happy about that, yet I'd rather stay here

>>7061 obviously ecstatic but I'm being realistic and not expecting it to happen

>>7134 honestly, that first week or so of it being back is gonna be so refreshing because normalfags will probably fuck off for a while

Is cover surpass anycolor for being the real black company?

>>7134 Nah. You can practically feel the site dying from the load. It doesn't have the capacity take in /vt/.

>disagreements with management and company direction My rrat is that they're told to say this. "Use us as a scapegoat", so fans will direct their anger at the company, instead of at the talent. I'm sure it was true for some of them, but it feels different with Gura because she's been MIA for way longer than the others who graduated before her

>>7061 I'd feel happy, but I don't think it's likely. Gura doesn't have it easy. I just hope to see a couple of """indie""" collabs, and then periodic streams or meme videos after that.

head there's a /vt/ bunker that doesn't allow SEAniggers (me). Anyone knows what website that is? Please help a brownkin out I'm not gonna post on your website I swear <3

>>6764 so this is 8chan.moe is the new bunkerchan

>>7175 Fuck off, Yagoo.

>>7025 thigh mentioned booby mentioned

>>7157 Not likely, there is a ton of faggot right wing grifters on twitter who will blurt out that 4chan is back within an hour of it coming online.

>>7180 She collabed with pretty much anyone who showed up before Holo. It would be nice to see her showing up in random stuff across YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYZKqZYNE3U

>>7212 Yup, same reason there's even a substantial amount of traffic here, twitter grifters spouted "EVERYONE'S REFUGEEING HERE" right away.

>>7172 they have a good horizontally-scalable architecture here, based on appropriate modern technologies, and it's actively maintained. i have no doubt that with enough funding, this platform could easily absorb the entire traffic load of 4chan.org. i only wonder whether moderation and funding can keep up.

>>7212 I forgot about those twitter niggers sharty should have gone after them

>>7087 >There's a reason vtubing, streaming and parasocial shit keeps growing despite everything: it's because everyone is terminally online. If you're here it's already over, good luck making new friends in current year. I never felt like autism was a superpower until this parasocial madness started ramping up in the last five or so years and it turned out that I was completely immune to it.

Get fucked holokeks

>>7061 what did you think >I'm feeling really optimistic for the future. I hope you are too. was about?

>>7215 Puts a smile on the face, that does.

>>7271 I'm pretty optimistic about retirement, too

>>7025 >stealing the vulnerable chumbuds She's a ruthless business woman

senzaku

>>7310 Continue how? Gura is dying and I don't pay attention to streamers outside of hololive desu

>>7061 chumbuds will be happy, holodrones will not

>>7047 ouch

>>7341 >this guy's oshi is a corporation

i cant even look at gura cunny without getting mad at hololive

>>7087 >he thinks vtubing is growing

>>7359 nah my oshi is in hololive and therefore I only care about hololive since she won't collab outside of it

NIJIGAWDS WINNING

Holotower is more active than this website but the servers are kinda bad

>>7398 mutual destruction isn't exactly a win

>>7047 I'm sure everyone will be happy at a new member joining thie indie avengers. I'm just sticking around for FWMC

It's fucking over

>>7061 The idea of a Vtuber going from a dancing singing idol to a video game playing just talk streamer is nothing to be excited for, its a downgrade.

>>7382 you have to put the sound back in the file

>>7452 is that felutia? man bro this must suck hard for them after the IRL bullshit they just delt with

my oshi has been retired for years and you don't see me complaining about it

Chumbuds I really wish you the best. I liked being a tourist in your threads so I hope you're okay

>>7458 not interested in knowing more about her outside the cover limits? besides, who says she won't sing? now it won't be necessary for her to private her karaoke streams

>>7506 lol faggot

what do we do now

>>7506 Didn't he stream five times last week?

>>7520 Same thing as when 4chan went down. You find an alternative and move on.

>>7508 It's not too bad now. I really mentally prepped for months, so I have to assume that helped me not kill myself.

I can't even eat right now

this is so sad

>>7414 the ones that don't stream? sure very happy

>>7616 dont click this it opened a download for 4 terabytes of dolphin porn

>>5510 99% of people probably dont even know this site exists, they probably heard people talking about 8chan and went to 8kun instead.

>>6519 What made Selen's termination a scandal was the details that came out about the harassment and treatment by management. Without similar details for HoloEN, we're stuck with vague statements and guessing games.

>>7605 It'll be ok chumbud. Time is a looped circle anyway. You'll see her again no matter how long it takes.

>>7252 You are probably such a type of asocial, Autistics are the main market in the vtuber world

>>6666 Quads confirmed!

Serious question, do viewers get "oshi fatigue"? Like becoming burned out on love and the ability to kind of pair-bond? You'd think idol companies would take that into account, no?

Homolovers won

I cant do this

>>7734 haven't had the chance to, they usually abandon me for someone or something else first

>UMISEA is just down to a quartet....... a trio ........ a duet....... a solo ....... >dies

>>7734 The secret is not to have an oshi in the first place,

>>7734 I guess? I haven't been able to watch my oshi for a while because I hate the fact I'll never be able to be with her.

>>6793 Same

What did she mean by the disagreement with management? They asked her to stream?

>>7734 Some people probably do, but I've been watching my oshi for just about 5 years and haven't really felt like moving to anyone else

>>7801 Marine graduating?

>>7061 I just miss her so much and want to see her more

>>7520 Vods and imageposting?

>>7734 im too adhd for that to happen brain just kinda slowly cuts them out by watching less and less and justifying it with reasons like >oh its a bad time to watch them before oooo shinny new streamer comes along oshi? more like oshit this person is awesome

>>2002 real. my exact thoughts as soon as i saw the "important announcement" post

>>7830 soon

O joyous day the cumbuds finally get retribution for shitting on everyone else and calling them worthless

>>7734 If you're just a normal viewer, not really. You can leave and come back later to catch up. The ones negatively affected by overexposure are shizos and unicorns

>>7956 what timeline did you come from?

>>7929 Oh, I'm still going to shit on you and call you worthless, don't worry.

>>7929 >things that never happened

>>7956 You might just be the biggest retard in the thread

I'm sorry for your loss chumbuds. Unlike you that celebrated Ai-chan's hiatus and mocked the kizuners, I truly wish you find solace in these dark time.

>>7913 >>7935 faggot counter activate

>>7990 I like how the images all show up next to each other and that we can post multiple at once

>>7513 You can see what she is like from her videos in her past life, She is also going to continue private her karaoke's as long as she sings copywrite stuff, that isn't a Cover thing its a Youtube thing.

>>8008 Welcome to cripplechan circa 2014. You can't even imagine how out of date and abandonware 4chan has been.

>>7990 based

>>7990 I'm nutting to these if anyone wants to join me

Thank you for countering the faggot anon o7

>>8039 still cant believe that non-/gif/ boards never got native webms with sound support mfw you can upload .pdf files here

>>8090 Don't ruin it for everyone..

>>8074 maybe if we do a full shark cunny dump

>>8090 >mfw you can upload .pdf files here isnt that how 4chan got done in??

>>8090 >you can upload .pdf files here anon please...

Rise and Shine, Nijisisters. Our time has come

>>8117 well yes but it's different

>>8022 >She is also going to continue private her karaoke's as long as she sings copywrite stuff, that isn't a Cover thing its a Youtube thing. Depends, but it's oftentimes opposite. When it comes to English karaokes, going unarchived is Cover's decision, because the only license they can get through Karafun only covers live performances, not archived. The vast majority of western labels are fine with just taking a cut of the stream revenue. This is why indies, even on Youtube, can archive their English karaokes. Japanese songs, on the other hand, are more likely to get blocked, because Japanese record companies think that if some amateur sings a song in karaoke, it's somehow going to lose them sales of the original.

Good night anons. Let's enjoy the remaining Gura streams and whatever comes after that.

>>8117 4chan got done in because it didn't have any checks to make sure the file being uploaded was actually a PDF and not something else with a .pdf extension. If I owned any imageboard anywhere right now, I would be furiously verifying these protections were in place on my site.

>>8152 fuuuck more pls

>halfchan dies >gura graduates it's fucking over. it's so fucking over

>>8182 you just been waiting for a reason to upload your stash havent you anon? >>8196 i really wanna comment about something related to this but i dont want to be a trigger of ruining our new home just in case it works

>>8152 >>8179 >>8196 guys like I get it but jorking it for the next 2weeks won't be good for your body

>>8234 no

>>8227 >>8234 why not

>>8234 My body, my choice

>>8234 im sad im angry im gonna jack off to gura every day until the day she's gone

The thought of her no longer being around sure it will be sad but not really different…

>>8090 Most imageboards support PDFs and webms/mp4s with sound and larger filesizes on the entire site rather than 4chan limiting it to specific boards because the code base for them is actively worked on and isn't "The site last got an update to the codebase or OS the servers are using over a decade ago". I check Lainchan's /lit/ periodically because of this

ffs can we ban ai-generated porn please?

Holofans 2025

>>8312 That is REALLY good sloppa, you cant hate AI that much

>>8312 It's good slop tho

>>8312 Wait I see, you want to ban it because it's too good and killed the thread. You foresaw this.

>>8315 >NijiEN dies >Yagoo sees this as the perfect opportunity to take their audience Bravo. I kneel for your dream

>>8385 Well Calli just went live so we're listening to what she has to say about all this

he told us we were blind he saw the cracks

>>8090 Can you upload appended files? Like a jpg merged with an mp3?

>>7990 Based cunnyposter

What's on his mind?

busting fat nuts in a ziplock bag and shipping it to cover hq

>>8456 >I wish more of the holostars would call random indies their personal tenga

>>8465 Damn good idea mine already went into the plumbing

goobye...gooba...

>>8504 They have never met in person kek.

>Mori confirming "management" is just a catchall at least they're admitting it

>>8542 Doesn't absolve fagoo and his wranglers from having fucked up unbelievably badly

>>8542 Makes sense. Guess that one rrat guy was right about Cover being fine with taking all the flak for the sake of the talent

>>8414 I always believed. I miss him. Orc isn't the same.

how is year of dubai looking?

>>8542 >mori said Stopped reading there

>>8542 >management clique defending management WHOA

>>8588 are you saying they're.. not the baddies?

>>8504 > hololive became so loved in English-speaking countries Sorry Yagoo, but by now more of my favorites are indie than hololive. But have fun with the concerts and the VR games.

>>8616 They're definitely up to black company shit but at least they have the smallest amount of decency to take all the negativity away from the girls during their graduation

>>8606 Still way more thoughtful than Bae's "this is best for me" after Fauna's graduation.

So, if and when /vt/ comes back will there still be a /GGG/?

More said Ina is next

>>8646 4chan mods on irc already said restoration work in the progress and there is a provisory ETA of 2-3 weeks before 4chan comes back online

>>8702 The conspiracy is larger than you think. Why do they need the masses to be agitated? Whatever the end goal is, the masses are now agitated.

>>8702 >4chan back on may >senzawa comeback on may

>>8705 Don't they have to rewrite the entire codebase? How will they do that under 2 weeks?

>>8702 I can only imagine how bad /vt/ would be. It was flooded for a week when Shiori did a homo collab.

>>8724 Also DBDxFNAF chapter and dbd is gura's nolife game and she sang the fnaf song coincidence?

gura did this...

>>8724 May 4th. I belieb it.

Anyone here who's not a retard mind giving a summary?

>>8724 I see, so that's why senzawa hasn't posted yet. She wants /vt/ to be online for her redebut.

>>8744 GPT

>>8744 jeet power

>>8803 Then it'll he hacked within a minute of going online lmao

Mori saying things will finally calm down is nice but they way she talks ablut gura happiness make it sound or just tell me gura just had depression if the big kind.

>>8799 Of her graduation announcement? >trying to hold back tears >talked about how surprised her and Myth were that things blew up how they did back when they debuted >thanked her fans >blamed disagreements with management and the direction of the company >said she was looking forward to the future and she hoped everyone else was too

>>8799 >Anyone here who's not a retard you aint gonna find anyone here

>>8845 Thank you.

>>8839 No shit She is always drunk or on drugs for a reason

>>8744 They have to upgrade their stack. That doesn't mean rewriting their entire codebase, but it does mean updating parts of it and migrating their data. They also need to figure out whether they were pwned because of an outdated stack, or because their implementation had a security flaw.

>>8885 Now that the source is leaked exposing their vulnerabilities and swiss cheese ass code if they just patch things up temporarily they'll get hacked again. They need to take time and implement the backend from scratch. Frontend has better templates anyway.

>>8885 supposedly the guy did it by uploading a fake .pdf file that had sql injection code to give himself admin access. i didn't even know you could upload .pdf files

>>8980 Only on certain boards. We had them on /tg/ for example because that's the format game books come in.

>>8980 >that had sql injection code It's not sql injection. He uploaded a remote executable script masquerading as pdf.

>I just want everyone to be happy. Is there no way to stay in Hololive and still find happiness? All the sad announcements are really getting me down. Help me, people from the company! Nenechi...

>>9013 ah, my bad. I'm not a database engineer.

STIIIIIII- I mean YAGOOOOOOOOOO!

>>8980 A lot of more niche boards had support for things you wouldn't think about. /tg/ supporting PDFs and /p/ could display EXIF data of photos people took are two that I know of for sure. IIRC /wsg/ and /gif/ had slightly larger filesize limits beyond the audio support. Granted, a majority of imageboards out there that actually see codebase updates support a ton of things that 4chan doesn't, I have a lot of -1 to -4 appended to UNIX timestamps from when HW was running the original 8chan for example

>>8963 They should, but they won't because it'll take too much time. Realistically, they'll audit their code to look for more vulnerabilities (or pay someone else to do it) and try to patch anything they find.

Wat nou?

>>9177 uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>8724 Yeah, her next post will be >I may come back and she comes back on the I of May.

So, what do we do with Promise and Myth now that they are down to 3 members each. Create Prometheus as Mori/Kiara/Ina/Bae/IRyS and move Kronii to justice? Or just keep 2 gens with 3 people and pretend nothing is wrong

>>9319 >Ina I have bad news about Ina

>>9319 Don't worry Ina and Kronii will be leaving soon enough too

>>9342 >>9330 Ok what did I miss with Ina now

>>9353 Ina said she doesn't like management in members and she said they keep asking her to collab with HOLOSTARS.

inaaaaaaaaaa

>>8771 Negligible

>>9353 Nothing. Ina and Kronii aren't going anywhere. Shiori probably is.

>>3021 I'll make one for my oshi when she streams. Should have had a members stream today, instead got a sponsored stream that got cancelled because of this. Where did it all go wrong?

>>9431 Unicuck cope we've heard getting spouted for months on halcyon.

>says something about positive in the future Is she going freelance or?

Welp, real talk; more than 1 guy probably offed himself and if she doesn't go indie the damage will be incalculable owari da...

I see holo corpo shills on youtube calling Hololive management "goated" for taking the blame. Trying to damage control the fact that all previous EN graduates stated they had disagreements with the company.

With Goob being gone cover need execute all the homos as an apology

>>9580 Noone cares about your failed has-been holocuck

>>9551 It was the most blatant "I'm going back to my PL, follow me please" ever. I doubt there'll actually be any increase in streams but at least there might be shitpost song uploads again.

>>9580 Problem is even if she does go back to her PL (which she's obviously planning on doing given her activity on Twitter and what she said at the end of the announcement) will chumbuds be happy with that? She was a pretty different person before Holo, not sure some chumbuds would be all that happy with that.

>>9586 So cover is the victim, I see

>>9684 >she will be exactly the same person even after five years King retard.

>>9698 There are definitely real losses felt. You can't replace someone like Gura.

>>9745 Yes you can. Biboo is right there.

>>9758 They are getting rid of the petite girls, she wont last long

>>9698 According to these people, hololive being the gods they are, are still looking out for their talents by taking the (hate???) and creating fake drama.

>>9758 I don't see how anyone that likes Gura can like Biboo other than just for fan art because they're both le heckin cunny.

>>9580 Imagine killing yourself over a vtuber

>>9758 Except they had two Guras and now they have one Gura. COVER investors will make less money now.

>>9758 Biboo is nothing like Gura

>>9845 Yeah, Biboo is better than gura in every way

>>9868 > holo vs holo shit

>>9895 Not your hugbox chumcuck, take a hike you fucking kike

>>9895 I dont intend for it to be Holo v Holo it's just a fact that Biboo and Gura are very different. Biboo is much more outgoing than Gura and more of a gamer but she can't really sing. Gura is more chill and doesnt finish games but she's a great singer.

Lowkey this website has better design than 4chan and looks more modern or rather cleaner...

>Gura leaving because of the disagreement with the management and company directions Will Kronii and Bae shit all over Gura, like they did with Fauna?

>>9586 >FWMC retweet fanart of them with Gura >no collabs Will it finally happen for the graduation tour?

>>9868 She can't sing for shit She has a 2020 Kiara-tier speaking voice She's not very interesting and I don't see her being anything as just "girl who streams a lot"

>>10074 seething chumcuck lmfao

>>2879 Same. I love Gura, but I fucking hate that guy. Hope he's absolutely miserable right now.

>>10025 kronii is the next one out

>4chan down >gura graduates WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!

>>10247 WAR WITH IRAN!

>>10247 THE AGE OF GLOBALISM IS OVER THE TIME OF THE INDIE HAS COME

>>10170 Gem cannot sing, and her voice is kiara tier, stop being retarded.

>>10247 My exact reaction when I first saw the announcement. What a fucking day it's been...

>>10314 ?? actual bot post kek

So insufferably smug pebbles will be the new chumbuds right? In before >new

>>9895 shitposters are all here if you werent already aware

>IDs are on How do I reply to myself 30 times now? Please respond.

>>10564 Why did I get the faggy color...

>>10556 The same way you did before. You were apparent then, you'll still be apparent now.

>>10583 Rude. At least flags are off.

>>1965 I KNEW IT HAD TO HAPPEN SOON, BUT DID IT REALLY HAVE TO BE WHEN 4CHAN IS DOWN?

4chan should have IDs, it prevents so much schizo posting. Also, how do we blame Niji for Gura graduating?

>>10673 Fellow pinkbud

>>10673 Agreed. But knowing the intelligence of some posters, they'd still claim samefagging every time more than 1 person disagrees with them

>>10673 There are thread IDs on a lot of boards, the mods just refused to add them to /vt/. In the leaks it also showed that a significant amount of feedback submissions were anons from the board begging for IDs.

hmm

>>10721 Yeah, I thought that was interesting. Maybe there's a chance it could actually happen now once 4chan is back.

>>10721 >>10761 doubt

>>10673 there are ways to get around them, it's like bans, they may work on the simpler posters, but never will on the terminal schizophrenics, and they are the problem on most boards

Hell goes binted

who gives a fuck if this bitch graduates she doesnt stream anyway

Gura kinda introduced me to vtubing back then so it hurts a little...

HOLOLIVE AND GURA FINALLY FREE!!!

>>3154 I disagree. Senzawa posted "#1 Fan of Gawr Gura & " a while back on her bio. Everyone thought she was being goofy... but that blank after the & will be the link to her next life. She will make a new persona and use Senzawa to link her fans to it.

>>11056 but why even make a new persona?

>>11056 I like this rrat

can we expect more streams from senzawa?

>>11139 Because it's been fucking years, and as long as you properly direct everyone to your new persona, you won't lose anyone during the move. See what Fauna did.

>>11056 That makes a lot of sense, I don't see her using senzawa

>>11056 Man I looked at her bio earlier and I didn't notice that. You're smart as fuck dude. That's 100% intentional.

Fuck Hololive!

>>11056 I believe this rrat, I knew the & had to mean something

>>11139 My guess would be that she wants basically her version of Gura. She could go back to Senzawa but if I remember correctly it was 100% shitposting content and if the rumors of her alcoholism is true, she might not want to return to that persona due to bad associations with that. But idk could be any reason. Maybe she just wants something new.

Its kroniis fault the stupid bitch

so whos next now? my bet is on mori

>>11642 Kronii didn't do nothing to nobody

ENreco 2 still isnt out btw

>>11689 the only way i can see mori graduating is if she somehow massively fucks up her presentation with japans royal family. like showing up drunk or high as fuck and basically being forced to seppuku because otherwise mori has worked hard to get where she is now

>>11689 Doubtful. She has a weird situation where she has a music contract but it is linked to Cover's IP. She would be walking away from two golden gooses and one of her life goals of being a musician. Also there is a rrat that one of the reasons for the graduations in EN are that the talents are being forced to move to Japan and Mori already lives there.

This HAD to have been on purpose, right? The timing couldn't have been more perfect.

>>11778 >the talents are being forced to move to Japan That will be incredibly obvious if they all suddenly start moving to Japan. I can't see this being true. On the other hand they can't do fuck all except when they're in Japan (all of the recordings, studios, etc, are all in Japan) so I can see why they'd want that.

>>11056 Powerful rrat

>>11139 Fauna did the same thing and it worked out fine. Theres probably a lot of things she wants to change

>>11806 Yeah. I head someone mention it before. I have no idea if it is true but If it is, it would definitely be a factor. Japan's speech laws are more strict too, so they have more control over their talents if they live in Japan.

>>11806 Isn’t this already happening? Aren’t there more and more talents going to Japan? If this is the case, it was a truly retarded move on the part of management

>>11689 My bet on Ina she doesn't hololive and she got fucked over by management last time

>>11983 There are, yes, but not enough to lay claim to it somehow being forced. I'll believe it if they make Ceci, Gigi, Liz, Kiara, etc, move there though.

>>12060 I shall become ###’s boyfriend and force her to divulge what the disagreements were about for all the talents.

Moth_ball of Pleroma node shitposter.club brought up a valid point that COVCF could be more focused on music production than all else, and this is just a purge of vTubers uninterested in becoming musicians. Knowing that the company is registered as a "Motion Picture/Sound Recording" stock, that lines up.

>>12131 Doesn't Gura like singing though?

why are people about gura graduating? they dont know shes going indie?

>>3820 Blackrock ruins everything it touches. That's the idea, actually.

>>12166 >why are people (mad?) that their [football player] is leaving their team? Don't they know he will still play football?

>>11703 She wishes she looked like this

>>11056 >>11340 >>11259 Good theory but what I assumed was the & is kept blank but its because it links her youtube channel directly under so shes not directly alluding to her being gura.

>>6397 Do your reps, retard-kun.

Gura is more of a symbol than an actual streamer, I doubt she will be missed, like what's there to miss?

She just wants to return to her shitposting roots

>>1965 >>10247 we're diverging timelines again, Jerry

is it over bros?

>>12142 I haven't been following Gura much, mostly just taken in fan-made works. However, COVCF stock's peak at the moment is the $20/share on 02 July 2023 that followed the company's IPO.

>>12566 I hope.

i see her PL twitter unfollowed someone. it was 137 yesterday, anyone schizo snapshot the list?

>>5161 Good opinion

Welp, she drained chumcucks membership money and was a lazy whore that didn’t made anything for 3 years, but anyway her leaving is a symbol of Hololive losing Mandate of Heavens

Myth? busted Promise? broken Advent? golden

Wait a janny turned on ID's??? The first part fo the thread didn't have any? What happened?

>>13119 Golden as in urine.

>>13233 Please drink more water, your kidneys will thank you.

>>12131 I'm probably remembering wrong, but didn't Fauna say something similar? Like, she thinks there is a place for someone who wants to do more streaming and gaming instead of singing and dancing?

>>12131 That hololive is moving to a more idoling direction is clear. The problem is they are very inefficient about it. Remember how Mumei had to call her friends to finish "it's not a phase" in time before Fauna left? And how we are still waiting on that Gura song whose name I forgot.

first Shion, now Gura... I do not like this cunny eradication and I am afraid...

>>12769 It was always 136. The new addition being notMumei.

>>13313 We can build more...better, stronger...

>>13333 These numbers don't lie.

>>13333 checked maybe there is hope after all...

>>13325 You can just say Shachimu

T-thanks Lumi...

It was around this time last year that holo drones were going off about graduation queue in Niji. Well, turns out you were right, there is a graduation queue after all kek.

>>6281 no idea what hololive actually doing, but my zoomie sister already thinks it's "creepy and controlling behavior" when her company asks her to be in the office like once a month because she got too used to just sitting at home and playing with her cats while being on the clock

>>13700 sounds like your sister is lazy. i've met lazy males that have the same thought process

>>7568 Freeza force

>>13935 obviously. my point was more that by now, I don't really take people's complaints about their employer serious anymore if they keep it vague, because I have heard too many complaints that were retarded

>>6281 The fact that they use the exact same wording (especially the Japanese ones) implies that it's just a script they read aloud, probably written together with the company. Which means the reasons might be completely different in the case of each one of them. Though it's also rather obvious that they have been talking about it behind the scenes and decided to do it together.

>>14091 I believe Gura and Mumei might have quit together. But Fauna? no way, her graduation feels different from the others.

is this new direction really worth it?

>>14288 Depends on where on the scale between streamer and idol your idea of vtubing is. If you want your oshi to play games and stream? Definitely not. If you want your oshi to do voice packs, and merch, and be in collabs, and wear cute dreses and sing&dance? yes. maybe. hopefully.

>All things end, /vt/ >Even us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWnSvgsuxI

Senzawa and Dooby can finally marry now

>>13141 There's a meta thread where the board owner is asking for suggestions, quite a few anons asked for IDs and a few minutes later he added them.

Can we do WW3 instead this gay tariff already

>>4080 >e reformed alongside copyright law The last thing we need is to remove copyright laws

>>6666 >t.Satan

>>12166 Because there's nothing to suggest she's going to stream more as an indie. It's not like Fauna or Aqua, where they clearly wanted to stream more than do corpo idol things.

i still find it funny that False talked about there being a graduation queue for Nijis but more holos have left at this point

>>14288 Shareholders own Cover now, if Number doesnt go up, the girls must go

>>14091 We don't have to guess, Mori flat out said it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCdC5AdPbyU&t=174s >What I will say is it's never one thing, I can say that with confidence. >Every single person has different experiences with the company, with Holo in general. >And none of the—maybe some reasons are the same, I know that I don't know. >But in general it's never one thing, is what I have heard and what I understand. >"Disagreements with management" is a bit of a catch-all, encompasses all reasons that someone may not want to stay anymore.

>>15014 >I know i dont know

>>15023 negligible

>>15081 It already stopped bleeding, yeah, and it didn't even go a lot below the level it dipped to when Mumei happened.

Correction: it hasn't even dipped below that.

>>15117 guaranteed itll go up again once some new gen gets announced

>>15243 New gen doesn't have gura

>>15117 t. fair valuation master

>>15014 Mori is EN suisei, she will say anything to defend cover

>>5764 *rapes and beheads you*

>>6664 Yeah, for a while it seemed that hololive would basically be the king of chuubas but now it seems like the vtuber bubble is popping as big corps hit the wall that is trying to keep their idols AND shareholders happy. Ig the only good vtuber corps left are fucking Phase Connect and maybe Vshojo.

>>15419 based

>>15421 There is no universe where this is true btw…

>>15014 >"Disagreements with management" is a bit of a catch-all, encompasses all reasons that someone may not want to stay anymore. Holy fuck what is this damage control. They have all been very clear, they don't like the company direction. Mori calls this a "catch-all" as if all these talents stubbed their toe or something and decided to leave. They don't like the company leadership anymore. Every time you see a talent graduate they give the same exact reasons, yet you have this drivel about "oh I have no idea what all these people are talking about, we love the company". Suisei on stream, talked about her discussions with Aqua and had personally asked her why she was quitting. Suisei never revealed Aqua's personal reasons, but stated that she agreed that Aqua had no other course of action than to leave Hololive because her qualms would never have been remedied. How many times do we have to go through this "I don't know why they leave, it's all different reasons". We may be retarded, but not retarded enough to see the GLARING issues at hand.

>>15470 "to not see" I meant

>>15419 >>15425 This is why IDs are a good thing.

>>15289 They have Biboo

>>15575 Biboo will never be on the same level as Gura in her peak.

>>15584 Consistency > Spikes She'll be a more proftable idol for them in the long run do how consistent she is for them. Not to mention I'd wager alot of chumbuds have already moved to her during guras absence

>>15425 >>15419 and just like that im sold on the idea of IDs

>>6087 SEX WITH L*L*

>>6349 No fucking way....

streamers fuck off we're idol corp now

>>15702 I can't believe Hololive turned into jewcorp...

>>15775 Nihon has fallen...

>>15775 how is coni doing these days?

It felt a bit surreal doing my usual morning routine, opening an incognito browser, scrolling Google News headlines, and seeing Gura and Cover mentioned there.

>>15775 idolcorp spawned a few good eggs. The worst part about the corp are the /jidf/ generals.

>>15601 Consistent botting you mean

So can we kill all the homos and homos collaber in en now? Cover I will forgive you for everything if you do this as an apology

>>15419 >>15425

>>9431 Advent fully embraced the idoling + they all were a bunch of shitters before holo. Shiori is not going back to buy cheap clothes from cheap shops now that she can go to the far east and buy actual quality stuff.

what the hell happened, is she having another kid or what?

>>16985 She said that she was burnt out over her two "cats"

>sticky >graduation >not even 1,000 posts sasuga /vt/

>>17221 this is /vyt/ not /vt/ If you want the actual doomposting it's at holotower

>>15775 It's been that way for a while. >the reason I left is because disagreements with management Clearly this just has to do with money. Hololive either wasn't giving her a fair cut of the profits or wanted an unfair cut of the profits. The fact that they just let her go is proof they are fucking morons

>>17363 Letting gura go is like letting the Assassin's Creed IP go. I mean. Yes that happened but you get my point. There's no way they wouldn't have just rewritten the contract

>>17391 >There's no way they wouldn't have just rewritten the contract Why didn't they then? Clearly upper management had an ego to maintain. No retards it wasn't you who made Gura into being popular, it was the person behind the avatar that did

>>17244 What's holotower?

>>17429 haven't you wondered where the holofags are? >https://holotower.org Careful though, they're a lot more triggerhappy when it comes to banning people

>>7968 >What is that time when chumbuds barged into Fubuki's stream and bragged about how Gura reached 1million subs first.

>giving someone that wasnt providing content consistently money because they believed she was safe and will always be the first priority because of "mascot" status hope some fans learned a valuable lesson

>>17391 >Letting gura go There is no debate when an employee does not want to work. You just part ways as nicely as possible and move on. She would have a breakdown on stage if she was kept there against her will.

EN is collapsing like a house of cards huh? Can't wait to see who's next in the queue. My money's on the Korean women

>>18342 >mfw it turns out the rrats about nimi and dotovu moving in together were real after all.

>>15403 >>15470 She's not even the only one that has said it. Kiara has said it too in her recent stream

>>15961 ask /tingles/

>>21721 >I wouldn't give specifics because I want to avoid escalating into a battle with the company yep that's about what I expected.

>>7616 guys, get in before it's gone, free dolphin porn

>>22247 Thanks anon

>it’s actually happening This is it, the end. Kurolive killed their golden goose.

>>17244 it's at reddit* r/vyt is filled to the brim with cover bootlickers, quite funny.

how many posts does it take for a thread to lock?

>>23249 2000.

ALL MY OSHIS ARE GONE

As someone who never even heard her voice, sorry for your lost but, doesn't really cause she barely stream anyway.

very nice

test

am i crazy or did this thread go from 1000 posts down to 500?

>Bitch that barely streams twice a year wont stream anymore Oh no-!

test

she could not stand being with out her wife now can be together <3

this is all mori's fault btw

>>7061 >Gura very rarely streams in her current life >Surely she will pick up a persistent work ethic after she becomes unemployed No. That's not how it works. She may have episodes of daily/ weekly uploads, but she will inevitably fall into hiatuses again.

>>6833 I exclusively care about JP nigger

This was a longtime coming but damn if it still doesnt hurt. I miss the carefree days of shitposting about a funni gura stream on 2020 /hlgg/

Guys... its over... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRg5Jjeql80

>>28220 >out of nowhere

>>27224 She'll most likely just continue the "Does one stream every 8 months while retards throw money at her" trend once the bullshit theatrics end and she realizes she threw away a massive source of income

>>28563 oh groomeranon made it

I dont get it. Why are you all pissing yourselves over this? She is just going to stream on her personal VT account as an indie. She's not fucking dead

>>23902 Same I think I'm cursed. My holooshi list in order was Gura>Mumei>Fauna and even outside of hololive the only girl I liked was Roca Rourin and she literally got hit by a truck in December and barely survived. I think after May 1st I'll be done with hololive for good the only people left in it that I like even a little are Irys (mostly for karaoke) and CC but I'm not really super invested in her and I at this point I don't think I should try.

>>7378 Do you get still hard tho?

>>28220 >out of nowhere lol

>>28835 >She is just going to stream on her personal VT account as an indie. Its just not the same as chumbies are so use to Gura and will find her 'Senzawa' model foreign.

>Gura quits >4chan quits THEY ARE

>>11139 Senzawa's vtuber model is based on Kuina Natsukawa from Hinako Note. She probably wants to make a new character that's more original to avoid legal issues, and it would also give her a chance to remove any baggage from her previous content and start fresh.

vtuber agencies are 100% predatory organizations that should not exist. A relic of japanese idol culture

What this graduation taught us is that doomposters have been confirmed right for at least a year. Both Mumei and Gura were called from a long time to be soon graduating for very valid reasons and yet chumbuds and schizos were melting about it. Not that I'm glad they were proven right but we have to agree that most of the predictions about who would leave for obvious reasons weren't farfetch.

>>31823 doomposters are always right

>>31823 because as far as dopamine soaked brain is concerned, everything is daijoubu just redpill yourself from your oshi, if the content alone isn't enough to keep you interested then she probably wasn't your oshi to begin with

>>31823 Oh I think Mumei has the same grievances with Hololive all the others. She just has a convenient excuse to not have to regurgitate the "disagreements with management" line. I'm sure she would have eventually had to graduate either way, but this situation gave her a convenient out. We won't get any official statements about what the disagreement was until years down the line, but that doesn't matter. We'll be able to see why all those girls left by simply watching how Holo changes as a company.

>>31048 Im still amazed that the fact that she worked with one of the most viral and popular pornstar to make a song doesnt get brought up more often. I got a feeling she proably regrets that one.

>>31089 >I sign up to play the role of Superman in a movie, thus I should own the character of Superman

so is she having a graduation stream?

>>32775 Hopefully. Because considering the amount of streams she had, it's possible she probably won't have a graduation stream.

>>31823 You can "predict" that any vtuber will graduate and sooner or later you will be correct. No one does this in perpetuity, and they'll stop or shift identities for a whole bunch of reasons, most of which you'll never know.

>>32421 an agency is something you hire to help manage your affairs. That's how it works with regular streamers, they hire an agency to promote them, or help manage them. But ultimately the streamer is in charge. It's only in the world of vtubers that the agency can boss you around, fire you, take your identity....etc

>>31089 Nobody is forcing vtubers to sign up to them though?? If you don't want to put in the work and meet what's expected of you, don't apply.

>>33653 Don't be surprised when they quit then

>>33746 It's still a business at the end of the day and their job is to make money. Vtubers are contractual employees and it they fail to meet what's expected of them, why should a company keep them around? The idol business is huge in Japan and it really shouldn't come as a big surprise that Cover wanted vtubers to take part in that?

>>32391 Reminder that this wouldve been the norm back on /vt/

>>7990 Mods??? Remove this AIslop.

>>31048 There's also the fact that seeing how unapologetically refers to gura in her alt to make sure there's not even a shadow of a doubt she can losslessly vacuum her fans into her alt, that she will get a new model with a shark/fishgirl loli theme to hammer in the notion d that "nuh huh gura's not over you can keep consuming over here"

>>33833 >why should a company keep them around? Being a Holo vtuber isn't like a regular idol job. And because it's highly public facing, whenever a talent leaves, it's terrible optics. Honestly, Cover should just have them sign a special contract with no significant obligations, so they can still sell merch. It's a win-win for both sides.

>>32775 Hopefully. Because considering the amount of streams she had, it's possible she probably won't have a graduation stream.

>>34054 0-hour contracts are considered predatory in several countries, and are effectively banned ontop of that, active contract means active NDA, NCA and all the other goodies which are just pain-in-the-ass-extra-hoops-to-jump if you apply for jobs elsewhere, so there has to be a financial benefit for staying in

Hololive is over for me. They threw Gura under the bus. What they did to her was disgusting. There's no forgiveness! May Hololive sink!

>>35637 >What they did to her was disgusting Make her a world famous millionaire who doesn't need to work again ever? That was awful

>>34548 She's not even on a collab rush like the others tend to be

Sometimes, sometimes You don't say goodbye once You say goodbye over and over And over again Over and over and over again

>>26573 explain

>>36138 God damn, Gura's design was so perfect. I can't explain why but it was pure sex

>Gura graduation >Already school shooting ...

>>36448 >perpetrated by the least insane unicorn

>>36419 Its not overdesigned

>>28563 Dear god this freak got in

I can't believe Gura was the real Gura killer afterall

>>6821 sell out

>>1965 Now Hololive is left with only whores and homos... Did they finally achieve it?

Was a Tako/Chumbud in the early days but moved to JP. I wish Gura only the best and I hope she recovers from the anxiety she had from being top dog.

>>42670 Yeah

>>7801 More like SNOT Literally only Kronii is left