vtubers are taking over

>>1039 those pics are from 12pm est, 1 pm est, and 2pm est by the way.

>>1039 >>1050 3pm. complete /vyt/ supremacy.

Predict the CCV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WFg2wq10rw

>>1783 4pm. site keeps dying do to high activity.

>>1976 180k

>>1976 390k

Dinopag will comment on gura graduation just to rub it to you guys

Gura's announcement art is the exact same as the /ggg/ holotower op btw

>>2243 HAPPY GRADUATION GURA SENPAI

/#/ is declining

>>1976 220k

>>1994 5pm

Numbergods I feel like shit

Will EN's numbers ever recover from Gura leaving? She is there only heavy hitter. The rest only get good numbers during events.

>>2529 It would be a new age for holoEN if she leaves

>>2529 if you don't count bots the numbers are already shit

Now i'm curious about when she let everyone know. Do you think all the Justice collabs were because they knew and wanted to get them in before she left?

Do you think Gura will be able to take down dubais (or at least one of them) before leaving?

>>2498 6pm

>>2746 What do you mean? Like a sekuhara case?

Numbers for the announcement? 200k at least I reckon.

why is /#/ so dead now

>>3188 /vt/ posters fear moderation, so they don't want to post on boards with non-sea jannies and mods.

Are the numberfags somewhere else?

Finally home...

is hololive done for the english side? is this worst than the selen?

>>3344 No, but HoloEN looks to be steadily getting weaker and the ceiling is getting lower.

>>3344 >is this worst than the selen? no. cover only loses what gura brought them when she leaves. the selen situation caused niji to not only lose selen's fans but they bled a lot of other viewers for how the situation was handled. unless gura goes scorched earth and calls cover a black company on stream it won't have as negative an impact on the company as the selen situation did.

>>3288 I thought it was well known that ennacuck made up a large percentage of the posts due to rampant samefagging

>>2906 7pm

I sort of accepted that this was coming and had been coming for a long time. My only wish was that I could have discovered EN during Myth debuts instead of right after Sana graduation.

>>3344 anon Selen situation single handlely killed all the goodwill that ppl had for Nijisanji, with the final blow of the blackscreen stream that didnt even let an excuse to be made for their shitters Gura was a long time coming stuff that ppl could see since 2023, most chumbuds already moved on and the remain will just move on with her as much of them never watched the other girlls must shit will stay the same, maybe just with a lower ceiling

>Hololive only grows stronger :3 So that was a FUCKING LIE

Id like to say that even as a former Kronie who dropped her due to the Homo saga, it was annoying how much you fags just kept on trying to just remove her from SNOT by going SNO or SNOrys, now only the T is left lol.

>22k waiting with 2:30 hours left this is gonna be fucking huge the graduation might pass Aqua's at this point

>>3863 You oshihened and somehow you're annoyed by that?

>>3904 Cause SNOT as a group was still great even if I disliked Kronii for what she did and making a madeup group of SNOrys when Irys doesn't really vibe well with them was retarded. Also she has gotten better now and realized her errors, so while im probably not gonna oshi back I might pop up for some streams.

>>3502 8pm

Here are this site's PPH for the last 5 days. Couldn't even get to 200 PPH sitewide before today. Today the max PPH was 1549.

>25k waiting Grim. This won't even hit 100k.

Damn it's pointless anyway since the site would go down but does make me wish I had made that catalog thread of that video yesterday about "gura has an announcement" from the clipper who uses ERB's face.

The 2 biggest EN vtubers are about to be indies.

Just noticed that Haachama's stream is gonna overlap with Gura's announcement as there's no way Mario Party will be done in 30 mins, wonder if she'll delay it considering CC and GG are part of the collab.

I wish we had waiting room numberfagging for Fauna and Mumei.

>>4095 Great effort post.

>>4409 >effort post Not really. You can get the graphs for every days post stats on the homepage.

my predictions is it will hit at least 100k but it won't pass 200k

>>4491 They have their own board here.

anyone else think that holoen is running out on its goodwill reserves?

>>4523 It's not even about goodwill. It's simply not even the same branch people knew and loved back in 2020 and 2021. It's something totally different at this point.

So do you fags still think its too soon for a new HoloEN gen?

>>4568 I think it doesn't matter either way. They're fine without a new gen. Not like anything will increase the branch's numbers.

30k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4568 if they put out a new gen now they will have worst numbers than even justice. So they are probably doing the same tactic they did with advent where no new gen for this year then a new gen for may 2026

>>4607 https://x.com/sensenzawa/status/1909994321031372921 also 90k likes and 6m views

>>4649 Yeah that spiked like 300k after plateauing.

haachama collab is overlapping the announcement

so her upcoming thing that she was excited about is probably the full color mv release then

>>4713 No. That one is completely abandoned. It's a song that's been worked on for like two years.

There is no way this is a graduation announcement. Mumei hasn't graduated yet

>>4568 you are saying it like if justice wasn't a massive numbers dissapointment, don't get me wrong i like CC and raora and don't care about gg but we can't deny none of them are big hitters at all.

>>4749 so the thing she was excited about that was upcoming is the graduation then?

>>4859 King retard.

>>4808 Cover needs to clear the queue for ENReco and the concert.

>>4607 >>4649 This is fukced up man. My oshi could never get this number. For all these years of streaming.

Let's migrate to holotower, it's more active

i like how every single griftuber is on the replies

>POV order is Kronii > Shiori > Biboo Wtf how?

>>4950 Why can't people like Gura?

>>4966 SNOT buff. No bots debuff.

Huh

>>4966 Some chumbuds are starting to move and they'll gravitate more to Kronii than Biboo.

>>5003 >Biboo Most chumbuds don't like her. Stop forcing this as a thing.

>>4966 chumkeks doesn't like those who stream too much

>>4491 In holotower numberfags are shot on sight. Good luck with that

>>4950 which one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3peOEALne4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3peOEALne4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3peOEALne4

>>5036 Pebkek...

You guys think Kronii might have a chance to a consistent 5 view streamer now once she absorbs the leftovers of chumbuds, hoomans and saplings?

40k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5190 Nothing is fixing her shit stream content.

>>5192 Predict the max waiting room before the stream starts

>>5206 150k.

so gura graduated without doing a 1on1 collab with biboo

>>5231 Bro this is still the announcement, there's gonna be like 2 weeks to 1 month before its actually over.

>>4568 >>4814 >>4635 they will be worse because Cover would rather hire homocollabers now more than CGDCT girls.

>>5206 300k

>>5263 Damn, gonna cry about it? If you dont like it, leave

>>5263 What do yo mean rather? When every gen has had them, and also CGDCT girls.

>>5003 >>4966 LOL, LMAO EVEN faggots think people just transfers their fave to another one just because

>>5531 🐴 BASED unicorns have no place here

>4chan died >Gura Graduate Is it unironically over for this hobby, bros?

dooby prophet warned you but you chose to close your eyes and ears

Not everyone obviously, we've had plenty of examples of certain Holos numbers increasing due to their proximity/similarity to another who graduated.

>>5783 its time to go back

Less than 10 minutes, is everyone really gonna overlap the announcement?

92k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5785 Then that is a Holodrone, not really a fan of an specific talent, lmao

>>5827 Ok Kson.

100k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>5850 DORYAAAAAAAAAAAA

Where are the hlgfags? They are no where to be found

>>5875 Holotower

115k DORYAAAAAAAA

gura breaking records, first graduation announcement to be overlapped

>>5915 I can't tell if they're intentionally being disrespectful or if they were so caught off guard that it's impossible to cancel at this point.

121k waiting room

one: Gura is Not fluent in japanese two:hololive is Japan-based. many of the people watching will be Japanese. explain why she doesn’t have a Japanese translation.

>>5933 nevermind I eat my words

Nerissa raided into Kronii rather than Gura

>>5965 no one outside of promyth can raid her

150k DORYAAAAAA

>>5933 The only one with excuse to not cancel is Haachama due to being of a different branch even if there's some HoloEN members part of the collab, be also more harder to coordinate a rescheduling, the REPO collab though could be rescheduled and they already had over an hour.

170k DORYAAAAAAAAA

>>5219 Right on the money

200k DOOOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

200k DORRRYYYAAA

>Scripted AIEEEEEEEEE

>reading off of some notes >sounding sad and like she was forced to do it fuck Cover

management DORYAAAAAAAAAAA

AHAHAHA THE SAME REASON AGAIN

>may 21 this explains why en5 is delayed

>>6089 >THE SAME REASON AGAIN It is the basic message

>holofags will still pretend everything is alright >holofags will still pretend hololive is the gold standard

>>6110 May 1st.

holotower crashed

>>6110 >21 Did she say the 21st? I thought she said the 1st.

rrats spreading on twitter is hololive sold its soul to shareholders

It's so over

yeah it's over. Hololive is officially the same fuck up as Anikara. IPO was a FUCKING MISTAKE

>>6121 Holofags will still say she wasn't relevant anyway

>>6128 >>6138 I misheard then

>>6148 >rrats

>disagreement with management LMAOOOOOOOO

>graduating because of disagreements with direction of the company and with management >"I still love singing and dancing and being an idol and don't want to leave" what did Gura mean by this?

uhhh isnt this fucking the same as faunas?

So same reason given as Fauna with no mention of health issues Looks like she's coming back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3peOEALne4 anyways WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK BROS

>>6194 Cover forcing as much sponsorships and deals on her that also led to all the traveling over the world.

>>6194 >what did Gura mean by this? It's pretty much that she was unable to renegotiate a new contract

>you were thinking I died >bitch surprise

NHHEEEERRRRR NOTHING IS WRONG WITH HOLO MANAGEMENT THO

HoloEN is over Long live to HoloEN 2.0

>2 weeks HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

239k DORYAAAAAAAAA

>>6194 You've never had an asshole boss that won't just let you do your job and instead demands you do lots of other shit unrelated to your job? Lucky.

>feeling really optimistic SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS SNO IS COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS

>>6148 The same shit they always say >muh shareholders >muh idolshit

the end of hololive is near you fags nothing can save this. EN5 you say? they will have worst numbers than justice Its really time to go back or be like me, become a jp enjoyer instead

>>6271 Cope, if it wasn't the shareholders explain why Gura's graduating then

>didn't cite any health issues as a factor Is it over for Hololive?

>>6287 >he thinks JP will still exist in two weeks when Gura was the only thing keeping Cover afloat just like how Mickey Mouse sustains Disney

>>6194 That is literally what Fauna said too, by the way. But hey, people shit on her anyway.

>optimistic for the future Oh fuck she is definitely reincarnating >>6270 Doesn't seem like O will be a part of it, but SN for sure

>>6291 How the fuck would I know why she's graduating? find someone else to generate baseless rrats for you

>graduation announcement >I'm really optimistic about the future, and I hope you are too I'm good with 10 streams a month if she can hack that.

And just like that Gura is gone like a fart in the wind

No health issues mentioned and she said she loves streaming. Add on the roommate posting and its looking possible she comes backl

>>6311 Bro if you're not being retarded people are about to shit on Gura for this too

>>6367 Only if chumbuds start running wild like saplings did. Don't start shit, won't get no shit.

I'm hopeful but we've already seen how streams went with sen in the past, maybe doob and nimi can keep her consistent

>>6440 doob can't keep herself consistent

>>6440 Depends if a lot of Gura's inactivity really was due to Cover pushing her to do lots of sponsored shit and traveling around.

https://x.com/sensenzawa/status/1909994321031372921 https://x.com/sensenzawa/status/1909994321031372921 https://x.com/sensenzawa/status/1909994321031372921

>>6440 Who cares what Sen was like before holo? She streamed consistently when she loved Hololive and loved what she was doing.

https://streamable.com/k7o5na https://streamable.com/k7o5na https://streamable.com/k7o5na A message for chumbuds

>>6477 What sponsored shit needed her to travel around anyway? It's not like she's been recording travel vlogs like other holos have.

>>6440 Why do you fuckers always compare things 5 YEARS IN THE PAST?! Like wtf, there's a fucking big difference now FRIENDS-WISE

here's a broken timeline of gura >she wanted to graduate sometime early 2023 or maybe around the uh oh tweet date >cover throws a curveball to her and offers her to be one of the main talents for a dodgers collab and also make a full size figure for her >it works to some degree and she decides to stay >then she got word of the aqua graduation, then the ame graduation, then the fauna graduation and the final nail in the coffin is the shion graduation and mind you she knew all this many months in advance >she then decides to finally leave and opt out of all future merch runs >then graduate

Either Fauna helped her with that speech or she essentially copied Fauna's homework because it was pretty much the same shit, except she emphasized on the stuff her community has done.

On one hand, losing /vt/ at this point mitigated the rampant shitposting that would have come, on the other hand though without /vt/, the narrative will be mostly controlled by the tweeters and youtubers.

>>6628 Default graduation message provided by cover

lmao imagine letting go of your biggest talents instead of letting them do whatever it is they want to do and just having them come back to do occasional VA work or concerts or some shit.

>>6647 maybe they really are controlled by shareholders now

>>6635 Oh shit, you're right. It's all fucked up, it's almost like they want to kill HoloEN without outright killing it.

>>6628 Like Fauna, she wants you to know this isn't a hard over in her internet journeys.

Remember that graduation queue? I didn't say who!

Did you see how this guy got a warning before she even put up the frame?

https://cover-corp.com/en/news/category/corporate its all just graduations

>>6635 >no organized corposhill pushbacks against anything that makes Cover look bad >that is a BAD thing Retard

one more is coming btw. do we have a clue on who the red(?) one is?

>>6748 there's also defamations!

>>6750 It's sort of late for pushback. The changes already occurred and the girls who disagreed with it already graduated. Their strategy for preventing more graduations is to make sure to only hire the girls who are aligned with the new direction.

>>6848 As a concept Holotower is nice but apparently you get deleted if you so much as say "Advent gets favoritism" so it's kinda hard to take the site seriously when they're that fucking heavy handed

It’s pretty clear what’s happening, so I won’t repeat it. But here’s the main issue: Hololive English is part of a Japanese company, so it has to follow Japan’s strict copyright rules. This means the talents can’t always stream games or do things they used to do freely when they worked alone. For example, indie creators don’t need permission to stream games, but Hololive talents often do. Some groups, like VShojo, are more flexible, but Hololive’s rules can feel limiting. This is why more talents are quitting to work independently. Dokibird started this trend—after leaving, she could stream games she couldn’t before. Now others are following her. It’s not Hololive’s fault; it’s just how Japanese corporate rules work. But it seems like the time of Vtubers being tied to Japanese companies might be ending. More might join American-based groups or go solo. As for Gura, I hope she does well. But I wouldn’t be surprised if she shows up again soon, doing her own thing. Things are changing fast in the Vtuber world!

>>6748 You'd think they would've thrown in some happy fake news shit in there just to spruce things up.

>>6889 oh yeah the chinese rhythm game perms

>>6635 gura hacked 4chan for a reason. trust the plan. and if you doubt this, just take "sharty" and replace the "t" with a "k." this was all planned.

>>6848 It was made all the way back when to be stricter than /vt/

>>6848 >>6867 Yeah don't think that board will have much longevity, if its that much of a hugbox they should just go to reddit then if they want to shut down even minor complaints.

>>6924 Watch Nimi, she's spoken about how much freer she feels nowadays when it comes to choice of games for streaming.

>>6889 It's not just about game perms. Gura complains she can't just do dumb shitposts. She's just been complaining a lot in mengens about things she can't do over the past year.

>>6889 >indie creators don’t need permission to stream games That's where you are wrong bucko. You don't need permissions but you still need to comply with regulations and your stuff can be taken down more easily tok

ya I'm mostly done with vtubing, I might watch a couple of senzawa streams but with no concerts or events to look forward to there won't be much keeping me here

>>6943 ISREAL

No wonder Shiori is tyring to speedrun her 3 view status

>>6977 Yet not a single indie has been struck while Cover privates streams all the time

So what will happen to the chu poster?

https://x.com/moricalliope/status/1912335678618386628 Why does this sound like she didn't tell anyone

>>7032 I'll check out sen as well but it just won't feel the same anymore

>>7090 Because she likely didn't

holotower is slow as shit right now

that gap in pph

>"long time coming" >hard graduation, no affiliate >may first, only 2 weeks >disagreements with management, no mention of her health >"hope for the future" >mori replying with a kind of cold message I don't see how this is anything other than bad blood between her and management.

>>6867 Advent does get management favoritism but whenever someone brings it up it's used as a vehicle to shit on the girls even though it's not their fault and then people will reply with "well maybe x gens should stop being lazy whores" and it all goes downhill from there. Just like how HoloX being a management favorite was not their fault either and people usually bring that up to shit on either Gokisei or Council. If your goal is to prevent flame wars like Holotower it makes sense why they'd delete that.

>>6889 Dokibird dodnt start any shit trend, she got thrown out the door like a worthless savk of shit and, once out, enjoyed one of the few, very obvious, advantages of being an indie Its the same as saying >Sana started the no perms streams after leaving a jap corpor because she streamed genshin

>>7153 >Advent does get management favoritism Advent's favoritism is deserved since they work harder than the others. They have done more gen stuff than all other gens

How much will this impact hololive?

>>7152 She doesn't do good tweets for any graduation.

>>7153 For context, it was on /uuu/. Person said they didn't understand why the thread was still so obsessed with Hololive when it was just the Mori and Advent show, and Promise got treated like red headed step children.

You now remember when Gura tweeted about being mad about management after the dodgers collab last year. This may have been decided since then.

ID win again

>>7209 Only in merch terms (mostly Taiwan). Not in stream terms

>>7219 what did she say?

Brapped

of course 4chan dies at the same time as Gura. Only one of the biggest landmark events in the history of this niche and we scurry in the fucking dirt on alt sites.

>>7222 No streams = no popularity = no merch sold Gura leaving is the beginning of the end for hololive, more and more holos will feel emboldened to leave because they now know they have all the power and the fans will follow them.

>doki mint and pippa getting numbers Leechcore

>>7209 for jp not much at all if anything EN will be some amount but it might be due to the multiple graduations in a row rather than just gura

>>7219 Anon it's been FUCKING YEARS and Full Color never got released. Middle management has been a fucking blight on the EN side. Remember when she wanted to do a Queen cover but whoever was helping her get an arrangement said it'd cost tens of thousands of dollars? Gura's been getting fucked over for ages, and probably seeing many people collabing with IRL stars and her not being able to get what she wants over the years frustrated her.

Don't try to pretend you care about Gura when you haven't watched her for a year

>>7236 >Nijisanji >does everything to please the top performers >Hololive >exploits the top performers to give opportunities to low-tier JP/ID shitters and homostars Was it worth it?

>>7195 >they work harder than the others BIBOO works harder than the others. Nerissa and Fuwamoco basically do nothing now and Shiori has never really done anything at all.

>>7153 They get favoritism primarily due to FWMC also, they can literally, fluently communicate with management, are diehard idols, are physically there. Also it seems like they are the ones that are trying their hardest to keep gen-unity alive, through the Advent collabs and always shilling themselves along the rest of them during FWMC morning.

Gura is hololive to me Hope the other talents have a good time and i wont completely ignore some of the holojps i enjoyed (fbk, miko, subaru are good) if i come across their things as a recommendation but this is it for me guys I really think that hololive is the best environment for gura, but I'll wait to see how she comes back as an indie, if its the same I'll stay, if its a kson situation i won't be around anymore Don't mean to shitpost just wanted to vent my feelings out

>>7032 This is going to sound sort of corny but holo has engaged me in a really immersive way far more than any streamer or most static pieces of media have. All the story arcs like concerts, the girls meeting up irl, 3d, the community oc, etc. all made you feel like you were a part of something greater. When your oshi stepped on stage for the first time you were really invested not just because of the tech or the performance quality but because she was the person you invested into. Even if the girls start streaming again in a really competent and witty way alone it won't feel the same.

>>7231 Can't find the stupid tweet, it was along the lines of "coming back from Japan yada yada something bad happened and only gets me mad rememberig it"

NOOOOOO YOU MUST STAY LOYAL TO THE COMPANY YOU'RE NEVER ALLOWED TO QUIT HURRRRRRRRR

>>7248 >Gura leaving is the beginning of the end for hololive Dyrbi?

Anyway new peak for the shark!

>Hololive only grows stronger Is this still true?

>>7321 Dorya!

>>7308 Look at Cover's stock price, it's over.

>>7349 >IT'S ALL BOUT THE STOCK PRICES

>>7349 Stock angle cycle again?

>>7307 I do wonder why they lined up 3 graduations all in the same week

>215k avg ccv >58k vod views yeah... that doesn't look sus

Kek. Minto is getting buffed as well.

>>7377 >Nobody even mentioned Nerissa getting 11k natty on a random zatsu

There is absolutely nothing wrong with firing lazy employee who don't work

>>7389 will she finally get 10k this year?

>>7364 because they likely begged them to wait until fes was over. from now on i expect fes to be followed by a wave of graduations, because cover will try to get as many girls to wait as they can so there is no bad vibes going into fes.

>>7291 Same. This string of graduations since September has made me lose faith in the company. Gura was the final straw. If she's back to her old self, then great. If not, then I can see myself slowly losing interest in vtubing as a whole within a year or two.

>>7298 Yeah i completely agree. The only way that it'd feel the same is if they grouped up and collabed together and had group goals, but thats just not happening outside of a corpo environment, which the talents that've left wont work for anymore I see some people copkng about ame and fauna and gura joining together and im sure theyll collab a bit, but theres no way we'll get some like the holofes equivalent or even holoen concert Fuck its really fucking annoying that we didnt even get a month by the way, may 1st? Fuuuuck

>>7361 >>7362 Even if you don't want to look at stock prices it's clear that the general morale in hololive is now at rock bottom with all these graduations. Expect Korone and Marine to be next on the JP side and for the rest of holoEN to be out soon, forming their own indie agency. The world is changing and JP corpos are on their way out.

>>7364 Because they don't want the graduations killing the new gen that's probably going to debut next month in the crib.

>>7377 Was it only 215? I remember seeing higher a bit

>>7269 >Nijisanji >does everything to please the top performers They gave 3view Finana Home3D, but denied it to highest-earning NijiEN girl Pomu until she announced graduation

>>7439 If she did a month she'd have to deal with a birthday stream which she's clearly aoviding

When are we going to migrate to holotower /hlgg/?

>>7450 >Even if you don't want to look at stock prices it's clear that the general morale in hololive is now at rock bottom >forming their own indie agency >Indie agency You are the king of retards

>>7469 They don't want us, they hate our passion

>>7457 That was back when they were retarded and trying to run things like hololive. Now they learnt their lesson how many graduations are you seeing compared to Cover? Hm?

>>7451 Probably this, Gura's graduation being May 1st means there's EN5 coming sometime in May.

>>7453 >>7377

>>7135 /vt/ seems to have settled here and on holotower. Where are the other really active boards? /v/? /vg/? /a/?

>>7419 > This string of graduations since September has made me lose faith in the company Are you stupid, who gives a fuck about this >see myself slowly losing interest in vtubing as a whole within a year or two Oh yeah youre a shit poster then How do you fags manage to be so fucking obvious even over here? Let it make it clear to you fag, no one who gives a shit about gura is thinking about their "faith in the company" only if they can still find joy in the other talents > Corpo corpo corpo cover cover cover Guras fucking graduating you retard, respect the person that made the hobby you got into (no you dont know jp so shut the fuck up)

why the fuck ludwig watching gura announcement

>>7510 Does this podium?

>>7469 /#/ is delete on site there

>>7539 Leechnigger.

>>7539 he's trying to leech some numbers

>>7510 239k

biggest holoantis are celebrating on twitter

>>7459 Retard is in numbers but cant vount, point and laugh

>>7592 >if you don't simp for a company you must be a holoanti nice take sister

>>7561 >>7576 and he is complaining about idol culture and speculating about her contract and cover forcing her out...

>>7592 Why do you know who they are?

>no 15 minute wait before you can start posting >no one minute wait between post >less eye killing captcha I don't know if i can go back to 4chan anymore

>>7592 Of course, homomanagement had success

>>7469 Theres no point, they are right to delete the thread, would literally just be a worse /#/. Just wait for 4chan to come back, we might be getting ID's actually. >>7469

grim, thread is already full of shitposts

>>7195 >>7287 Oh I didn't mean to say the favoritism was undeserved since they're basically the only full EN gen left that still keeps up full gen stuff (Justice doesn't really feel like a full gen the way Advent does). But from the start they have had the most continuous support from management for various projects and promotions. In an ideal world all of EN would have had the same level of support, but in the end Hololive is a business and Cover is probably prioritizing based on future growth and ease of doing business (having more Japan-based members, etc).

>>7641 Not your hugbox holokek :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok5S744WN1Y mori stream

>>7638 >Just wait for 4chan to come back lol >we might be getting ID's actually LOL

I remember one cumbud shitting on Fauna for disagreeing with the management thing, i hope he neck himself today

were we right all along and it was because of the homos? everything went downhill for her since then

>>6791 It was Mori, allegedly.

>>7697 Probably way more the inflexibility of having to be in Japan.

>>7694 >I remember one cumbud Actually that was me a, a falseflagging phasecuck

>>7450 kek, what the fuck

I fucking hate the new yt layout

>>7450 >Even if you don't want to look at stock prices it's clear that the general morale in hololive is now at rock bottom with all these graduations. Sure >Expect Korone and Marine to be next on the JP side Hoeh?

>>7656 >Oh I didn't mean to say the favoritism was undeserved Favoritism can only be undeserved. If it's deserved, it's not favoritism.

>>7697 Yeah, i mean she literally stopped streaming as soon as they came out and holofes was over that year and never returned the same way Getting fucked by management over projects fifteen hundred times was a heavy contributor for sure but, watching them have no fucking clue about what they are doing, clearly sinking the branch with such a retarded take on homos, and finally getting some things right after messing them up for years but only for the homos is rightfully blood boiling

>>7592 >complaining to cover about recent high-tier graduations already branded as Holo-antis LOL, LMAO EVEN

>>7450 you're absolutely shitposting but if korone left I would be done, I really like gura and biboo but the announcement made me realize I only actually care about the dogod

>>7781 what a faggot

>>7781 Tch

>>7794 >Lumping Gura with a bunch of worthless shitters that were only ever popular BECAUSE of gura herself Coughing baby vs atomic bomb

>>7788 a fuckin tourist i see

>>7811 senzawa was a low 3view shitter

>>7697 Yes

>>7833 False. She breached 1k with Spongebob.

dooby just needs one more star shard to come home

>>7833 And gura had 114k on a karaoke so what? Gura was the only actual gem in the rough out of all of en vtubing the one actual case of just needing to get some initial eyes on her streams to get popular without being the cope that it is for everyone else You could give the same opportunities (exact same model and debut time) and no one else english speaking would be the phenomenon she was, someone so special that even with the ridiculous fuck ups that cover did and the hamstringing of her potential she still stood out as much as she did

/#/ is the biggest unicucks general with a major anti-male sentiment in 4chan. Now even the biggest hololive alt-chan refuses to accept your kind. It is in this very moment that you realize Holofans see your kind as the same as nijiniggers. They never liked your kind sharing the same board as them. How does it feel to know that you're nothing but trash in everyone's eyes?

More homos

If you still dont know what the fuck this is.. Just like Nimi, she gonna re-debut, and she'll be a fish Since Dudul tweeted the same, it means he will be responsible for her intro/debut video

>>7794 >dookie silhouette Fuck off.

>>7902 > trash in everyone's eyes Ive seen the content you call good (or "unhinged") this is a compliment

>>7914 >dookie silhoutte? where is it? I got that image from the dooby general

>>7902 i post on both

Iofi won

>>7910 Change of direction confirmed

>>7129 Probably cause the mods deletes the posts criticizing Cover or even banned them.

graduation? don't worry my friends, ENHolostars4 will be announced in may

>>7910 Pfft.

So just Ame and Chloe took the affiliate option.

Kind of makes me feel better about being lazy on getting holocins in holoearth >Enreco2 without 2 scarlet wands Rip

Whatever the "direction of the company" is, I'm not staying for it. Gura is the last straw. >why don't you go to [insert shit corpo] inste- Fuck off.

CONGRATS MARINE ON BECOMING THE MOST SUBSCRIBED HOLOLIVE TALENT IN THE WORLD YOU'RE THE NUMBER ONE NOW WE HAVE GREAT EXPECTATION FOR YOU

>>8015 she wouldn't take it today

>>8070 >doesn't stream Whoa, I wonder where I've seen this before. Surely it'll be different.

>>7813 are you saying I'm a tourist because of the choice of who I like?

>>8049 Ill wait for a girl that is active to quit, to care.

>>7779 The favoritism I'm talking about started from debut, the treatment just continued from that point. When people complain they're usually talking about the past when Myth and Promise were complete and more motivated instead of of their current half-dead states. My take has always been that Advent should never be left to suffer like Myth and Councilrys did so it's good that they get strong management support, but I can see how other people can see that as unfair. In the end it's a touchy topic that gets a lot of people pissed off for various reasons which is why I'm not surprised it got nuked.

>>8036 I remember IRyS saying that EnReco2 will be 1.5 months because EnReco1

>>8096 If Marine went, not even the "NOT MY OSHI" retards would be able to cope anymore.

>>8049 I just want to timeskip irl to better times

>>7794 >>7882 >>8052 Gura will stream even less than she did in holo, Mumei will never stream again, Dooby is already burnt out, Nimi never collabs with anybody, and there are no indie avengers! This is the real world, and you need to wake up!

>>8159 why? its not their oshi

Holostars is new direction

>>8159 Why? Marine is an accomplished idol that has nothing else going for her, and shes old.

>>8239 i need to make her my wife

>>8238 I still think it's insane how they debuted a third holostars gen after dumb & dumber got terminated and the whole branch was declining from an already shit position

>>8125 Fauna...

>>8277 blame ollie, she really wants a homo whose content being horny to hologirls on his rm as a holostars

>>7912 >>8195 >Nimi never collabs with anybody Nimi has no friends

When the fuck is mori starting her stream

>>8306 >we might get to the point there'll be more HomoEN members than HoloEN members

https://streamable.com/2udyad >hololive is cooking something big >I heard a lot of people saying 2025 will be the downfall of vtuber but I feel with the many many ambitious big project that hololive has, I think we'll thrive >I have no worries for the future anymore. I'm just worried about what content I have to give out to actually keep up with hololive's hype because hololive is crazy >We're cooking so much, you guys have no idea was she lying when she said this?

>>7910 Thank God management could convince someone to not graduate

>>8277 Cover's desire to maximize everything in their hands is the card that's actually killing them faster than the competence. They want to have all the possible audiences, while failing to realize why they don't work.

>>8238 /#/ already back to seething about homos I see

>>8352 From her perspective it wasn't a lie.

>>8352 >h-hololive only grows s-stronger...

mori didn't know the announcement was today

>>8360 Homos are the core of everything bad in hololive.

>nobody knew it was going to be today >yet some random twitter fag did management is so fucking dogshit it's unreal

>>8360 blaming homos when everything when downhill is good because its the truth

>>8376 >>8390 and not management?

When will /#/ apologize to her?

>>8376 >>8390 enjoy losing sleep over your boogeyman and being miserable, then

>>8400 Get lost

Dubois?

>>8399 well yes also them, they created and encourage the homos

>>8400 Never

>>8399 Management support dubais so yes

>>8399 the only reason homos exist is because of management, not popularity or any stats, so yes blaming homos is like blaming management

>>8400 Finally the grifting clique is going to be complete

so when are Mumei and Gura are gonna collab? theyre both graduating so it just makes sense

koseki and shark collab will break this thread

>>8431 do you not watch streams? they already have a room review planned

>>8399 Girls get insufficient support from management because they are too busy fellating the homos.

Mori once again emphasising the INDIVIDUALITY of the talents

>>8402 the only one who is mad over people blaming homos is you anon.... i can feel your holo vs holo or general holo shitpost from you

>>8444 >watch streams? we dont do that here

>>8463 Is she really going not my oshi, not my problem?

which current holo is the best for chumbud refugees?

>April 26 - Shion >April 28 - Mumei >May 1 - Gura thats fuckin 3 graduation streams in a SINGLE WEEK even niji didnt do that, fuck GGWP Cover

>>8494 >chumbud refugees LOL, LMAO EVEN we'll just wait for her reincarnation

mori is wishing for gura's happiness whatever that may be

>>8507 GRIM

>>8531 >senzawa >ever streaming LOL LMAO EVEN

I'm genuinely perplexed that there's a holo that CHOSE to graduate. Like bitch, you have the EASIEST job in the fucking world with higher salary than doctors and you still LEAVE on your own? You have million of fans that love you unconditionally and you chose to BETRAY them? Indies would LITERALLY KILL to have your job and you just THROW IT AWAY LIKE NOTHING? WHY? What the fuck is wrong with women???

>>8507 anykara mogged

>>8540 >imagine comparing her situation 5 year before to now what a retard

>>8560 Have you seen a common theme between all the graduates/affiliates? THEY ARE ALL LAZY WHORES

>>8560 And they leave and still get paid more than doctors because their fans love them. It's not that deep.

>>8560 Talent freedom THOUGH

>>8507 Big things getting announced in May. They just need to get over the hurdle as soon as possible. You'll see.

>>8560 This is a botted copypasta at this point.

>>8582 it was a good 24 hours before the schizos bot came to this thread

>>8560 >perplexed

>It's good they can leave >there are some places that will hold on tooth and nail to their talents Why did Mori say it like it's a bad thing some agencies aren't like Cover and will make concessions to keep their talents

>>8575 >inb4 ANOTHER graduation

mori talking about holo antis

>>8575 lmao, as if enreco2 or new gen can pacify the situation if you think about it, announcing new gen is gonna is a negative.. thats like cover is saying they're replaceable employees anyway

nijinigs mori is making fun us.....

>>8575 >big things I really have no idea what they believe could be done at this point to recoup the losses

>2023 >14 >2025 >14

>>8679 DON'T WORRY MORE BOIS INCOMING

>>8643 >getting paid to defend your workplace and dismiss valid concerns is a good thing

its like Mori reading helmite post exact 1 on 1 about holo antis and phase/homos falseflaggers

>>8627 >we're almost at a rate of a graduation a month >this is a good thing Come on. That's fine if you're a favela slum pit like Nijisanji that pulls in any homeless dreg it finds, but each holomem is supposed to be precious.

>defending grifters who use hololive success to funnel to their rm Sasuga holoanti general

>>8674 https://streamable.com/2udyad >hololive is cooking something big >I heard a lot of people saying 2025 will be the downfall of vtuber but I feel with the many many ambitious big project that hololive has, I think we'll thrive >I have no worries for the future anymore. I'm just worried about what content I have to give out to actually keep up with hololive's hype because hololive is crazy >We're cooking so much, you guys have no idea

>>8695 At least Niji makes more effort to keep their talents. When was the last time a NijiEN graduated?

>>8689 qrd?

mori reassuring that she wont leave and if she does then it means she's joining staff or something around that

Can I get uuuuuh EN5?

wow 3/3 predictions right fauna mumei then gura who's next? i'm hoping kiara irys and kronii in that order

>>8725 mori calling out falseflaggers, something that helmite been preaching for years but reddit and twitter people too dumb to understand

>>8679 Only members that live in or spend more time in Japan than their home country >Kronii >Shiori >CC >GG >ERB

>>8714 they keep them so tightly that they have to commit sodoku to escape lmao

>>8796 Proof? We already know that Holo has a graduation queue, what about Niji?

>>8507 wait wtf this actually means en5 is coming if they're rushing it

>>8760 kiara and irys have no plans of leaving, kronii is the only one left at risk

>>8725 >there are chumbuds that are going to be upset and angry >but there are also going to be people stirring the pot, saying things like "holo is dead, holo is over" >if you see stuff like that then check their accounts and they're almost always not a holofan, call them out

>>8796 >making their livers happier so they don't leave is a BAD THING maybe Cover should take some notes on how to keep their top performers instead of just splurging on homos

is this karma

mori hinting on en5

>>8015 they are the only ones that got fleeced into that shit

>Graduate useless whores that don't stream or contribute to Hololive >Debut hard working talents that love making content How hard is it to understand Cover's motives?

>>8826 The past few months have been nothing but karma for all the shit talking and company bootlicking.

this is why we need our own board

Biboo's birthday...

>>8811 She should say who they are fans of

>>8841 Pippa streams consistently and has been streaming for a long time. I'm sure a big enough cash lump sum can convinced Doki and Minto to join as well.

>>8869 It's not her birthday. She's double dipping.

>>8841 Isnt hard to accept new gens being workaholics but i think would be better to have them be aya me 2.0 for the community. Howevee mori talking about gura happines pretty much just hints at gura being just ultra depressed. Hope she finds peace

>>8876 Nijisanji

>>8892 Lazy =/= Depressed Mori is just blatantly lying for pity

based on mori's wording. It seems like en5 is not happening this year but we'll see

who's in en5?

>>8913 If you cant read a person by their tone of voice, I dunno what to tell you. She was very genuine here.

>>8913 ? one of the most common outcomes of depression is to stop doing things you usually do and become lazy

>MOST INFLUEN- >banned on sight from holotower RUMAO

>>8811 She is not wrong that shitposters will fan the flames but are we going to pretend HoloEN didn't lose around half of it's heavy hitters? And who the fuck knows how many fans along the way too, some may support another holo but who knows what the ratio for that will be.

>Ame >Fauna >Mumei >Gura >All white and streamed infrequently Coincidence?

>>8944 the fact you came out of your way to post here means we're at least very influential to you

>>7910 >Outlasted Gura Kek, Leader confirmed the supreme blue chuuba

>>8806 Graduation queue is when you stagger graduations like nijien did 1 per month every month for almost a year when it everyone knew (some of them publicly said it) they were graduating Hololive once you want out you are out, case in point: 3 graduations in one week

>>8962 Cant say he outlasted her until he hits 5 years fag

>>8934 https://x.com/fennryn/status/1889756616234283424 feb 13, 2025 - ? https://x.com/MatsuiMuga/status/1887558282220355918 February 16, 2025 - ? https://x.com/milkyqueen_idol/status/1895309422546849854 feb 28, 2025 - ? >>96522769 >>96502710 kfel/Crunchyroll-hime - maybe wildcard but no hiatus/grad announcement https://x.com/Nekoreen_CH/status/189661058487305465 march 14, 2025 - ? https://x.com/KEMOVP_staff/status/1910694328231747803 coyote end of may - ?

>>8926 Then what's their master plan?

>>8974 Crashing the branch With no survivor!

>>8966 >once you want out you are out Clearly not because many of them wanted out before the fes but Cover forced them to wait a few months

Nothing will fucking change because she was barely streaming anyway. If you think otherwise you are delusional.

>>8876 She did when she mentioned corpos that hold on to their talents to the nail without letting them graduate despite them wanting out

>>8955 Bae streams infrequently.

mori wants a strong fps player for en5

So gura actually hate Advent right?

>>9011 Bae is Asian

>>8978 kek

>ctrl+f "dorya" >barely any results >nothing about the CCV peak or VOD views since the stream ended Is this because the usual retards aren't here en masse yet or has this really nuked the psyche of the thread?

>>9001 You sound like you're trying to convince yourself more than us.

>>9028 all things considered it's been a pretty good day for vtuber enjoyers.

>>8997 >Clearly not because many of them wanted out before the fes but Cover forced them to wait a few months Absolute retard, again this isnt nijisanji people leave when they want Both gura and mumei wanted to participate in holofes so they stayed in Shion wanted to graduate and wanted her fans to know itd be her last performance so she literally announced her graduation on the week of hololive Fauna and ame didnt care to do a performance in holofes so they left before it with no issues

>>9001 Nothing ever happens

>>9016 gura only hates homos and your organs

>>9043 quite a bit has happened today in fact

>>9035 Ame/Dooby is proof She's still a lazy whore even after coming back

>>8955 >Fauna >Streamed infrequently

>>8944 Kek

Compared to this place holotower seems like a reddit/discord circlejerk.

In the end it's just Diamond Dogs.

>>9028 our core confirmed just 12-15 people, the rest are tourists like >>8962 and shitposters like >>8997

>>9074 Because it kind of is? You can't really say anything negative without being deleted, even if you're not being a schizo about it.

Is there an option to turn flags on in this site?

>Shion had to make her announcement before Fes because three people had to go at the same time Grim.

This general should be banned. It belongs on holotower. Reported.

>>9001 Chumbud here Nothing will change because gura still loves the people in hololive as she always has and has always done her best to protect and cheer for them even if outsiders have no idea about it. She's also never been much of a social butterfly or intertwined her content with another person very heavily so unless you oshi her people arent going to leave other oshis And thats a good thing. I really liked the time she was in hololive, i think management fumbled it super hard and wished it was better but i dont care to wish for the other talents to suffer from this. To me gura is hololive (or hololive is gura) so im done with it, but wish the rest of you the best

so who's next? ina?

>>9116 Management didn't fumble anything Gura just didn't like streaming

>>9130 man mori did say that falseflaggers and shitstirrers were going to be obvious but this is too much isnt it?

Beat Aqua.

>>9152 En DaiDaiDaisenpai buff, doesnt count

>>9152 Good God almighty, imagine the graduation numbers.......

>>9129 Realistically it stops with Gura. The closest would be Kiara if her getting actual medical treatment doesn't help her. But as of now, at least on the EN side, everyone should be sticking around. Both Mumei and Gura were the obvious elephants in the room for a while now.

>>9152 Gura is the only one that mattered in EN so it doesn't count

>>9180 gonna crash youtube servers

>>9180 It's not going to be a 3D live so not as high as you are expecting.

>>9116 5 out of the 20 girls in the branch graduated, with the majority of them in such a little time, it is just not normal or natural or whatever you guys want to believe, it didn't happen with no at the 5 year mark,it didn't happen with ID, something definitely changed

>>9198 Knowing how everything that gura does goes it wouldnt be suprising in the least That or the start of ww3 Seriously her track record is completely fucked everytime i look back at her things some thing completely out of her control happens from random ass aqua sushi streams to covid start to vt dying on the day of her graduation etc etc, seriously fighting against god

>>9210 >It's not going to be a 3D live She mentioned nothing about what she was doing for her graduation. For all you know, it might be a 3D live that was recorded 2 years ago.

Why didn't Nimi tweet anything comforting?

>>9015 It's so fucking over

>>9222 ID girls cant afford to quit SEAtard.

>>9222 Who cares? Nothing ever happens until it does For chumbuds this was it but chumbuds notoriously love just gura and at best tolerate other talents This leaves a jole for sure but other talents wont suffer in their day-to-day activities

>>9256 Too busy flirting with Namie

Rrat: The new era of Indie Vtubing is upon us!

>>9256 Because despite all the people going >SHE CANCELLED BECAUSE OF GURA There seems to be something that's actually taking up her time.

Zoom zoom

>>9315 duh, cuz they chitchatting on discord

Reminder she did not do this for Fauna then wondered why people were upset

>>9336 And now these fuckers cant even say "Its gonna be okay <3", lmao

>>9336 BASED I LOVE BAE

This just reminder me that the shit with Aster still isn't finished. What's taking them so long. Did they hire the world's slowest detectives?

>>9405 Can this faggot go back to laundering money with failed businesses instead of forcing his way into leeching off trendy vtuber topics.

More pressure on marine... great...

>>9450 What pressure? She's been gone a month.

>>9457 ANOTHER BILLION

Does 4chan-xt work here?

Another one for the 1m VOD pile soon.

>>9457 how can he even afford this, is he just permanently in debt to cover?

>>9474 pressure of my dick in her pussy

>>9503 Ao-kun...

>Chumkeks claim Cover would never allow Gura to graduate >Chumkeks claim losing Gura would absolutely destroy hololive How are they coping now?

>>9198 >hololive only grow stronger

Why does she edge me so?

>>9553 Weird autocorrect there changing falseflaggers to chumkeks but i got you Beware of chinese malware when you go watch tranny porn next time

>>9028 /#/ is only worth posting in at full power

>>9028 Its rhe thread's patron saint, we do apologize if we drop the doryaing for a bit Save it for the last stream

>>9553 Its yet another chunk of EN viewers gone, only for the remainder to recover it slowly over time. The only branch including holostars that didn't have the older members sabotage everything over and over at this point was JP.

>2 hours 50 minutes Alright I can go to sleep now. Good night.

>>9619 Good night Also i hate how slow verification was, it was hard stuck at below 70k for close to an hour

>>9619 DORYAAAAAAAAA

>>9619 1M DORYAAAAAAAAAA

>>9619 DORYYYYA >hits 1M in under 3 hours AQUAKEKS YOUR RESPONSE?

why do all cuckposters only us ai?

>>8494 >which current holo is the best for chumbud refugees? Nerissa

>>8494 Shiori

>>8494 >Chumbuds >Ever picking anything outside of gura Have you not interacted with them at all these past 5 years? They isolate themselves from other fanbases everywhere because they literally believe with every bone in their body that gura is superior in every way to everyone else in vtubimg to them this is the same as saying >My lord ive heard you liked caviar so i prepared this plate of pagpag. I even shit on top of it myself!

>>8494 Any holostars

>>9650 gura will go back to male collabing just like before

>>9668 Just try to pick someone from justice, they have about 2 years left minimum in the contracts.

>>9665 Nobody draws cuck shit of vtubers and if they do it's garbage

>>9716 Yeah im sure gura will make some time for homos in the next 2 weeks before graduating kek

>>9490 (me) nope, it doesn't seem to do anything after adding an include line and refreshing.

>>9727 the post was talking about without gura so obviously after the 2 weeks

>>9727 yea, since we in a refugee camp. senzawa was basically an accessory for 3view male streamers to sexually harass repeatedly, and she still played games with the same people offstream for the last few years

<82 UIDs So all the numberfags have pretty much moved here?

>>9784 It's all me using proxies

>>9756 Just like shiori

>>9767 Thank God they did, we can't afford to lose another big talent like him.

>>9756 >the same people offstream for the last few years Orrly?!!! Since were in a refugee camp post some proof then and i mean some actual proof of her playing games in the last 2 years with a male

JPcuck status?

>>8944 Sounds like we're too based for them, they really would rather give /pcg/ a home there should indicate something is up.

>MEMEMEME Why is she like this?

>>9840 holy fuck every leech is coming out to take a piece of the pie

>>9840 fucking leeches EVERYWHERE

>>9840 >(((assmongold))) He smells blood in the water

>>9864 >>9866 >calling chadtone and basedmongold leeches SEA sister discord raids have never been more obvious

>>9848 Someone has to do damage control

>>9866 >>9864 Its gura what did you expect it was always going to be like this Even if she said she was graduating because she got hit by a truck and couldnt move anymore they'd argue that it was because hololive is oppressive or the money is bad, even though shes more than happy with the money she has

>>9874 >defending fleshies

>>9874 you could have fooled someone with asmon but the other guy is a fucking nobody shiiter

>>9874 3dpd deserve to die Fleshies should not exist

>>9840 Surprising asmon responded like that, seems like one of the least retarded ones. He doesnt know shit about holo though I guess.

>>9848 >why is a gokishit >acting like a shit I don't know, you ask me?

>>9874 We need flag here

>>9840 I'm looking forward to Suisei's next sololive thanks for asking

>>9840 they say that but 98% of vtubers would give an arm and a leg to join Hololive.

>>9906 Anyone who is a part of or owns a prominent organization is coming out in full force hoping that they will be able to recruit her.

>>9840 Literally none of this has to do with money. Gura never talks about money.

>>9971 they say that because they see a chance to make money not because they give a shit or will remember this in a week, don't get it twisted

>>9987 >Ms gawr gura that pulls out of every mech she can and that could print a trillion dollars with a new dinogura plush Clearly leaving for financial reason!!!!

>>9971 Not anymore, hololive is ending, everyone can see the cracks in the walls. Only people who would join now would be the desperate and untalented, same way Niji manages to still recruit dregs.

>>9840 IT'S OVER

>>9874 Bold of you to assume SEAs (at least IDbros, like 3 or 4 of them) are already here.

>>10012 100% of vtubers out there would join hololive in a split second even if the conteact was 10x shittier then it is now If they say otherwise they are lying If you velieve otherwise you are retarded Its simple calculus >Would you sign a year of your life away for 1m+ dollars after cuts and even if you leave afterwards a 3k+ ccv? The answer is yes Always yes

>>6889 >Implying game perm is the only big issue

>>9906 4chan being down right now is a very good opportunity for them to control the narrative. As shitty as the site could be and of course falseflaggers/trolls rad rampant, every anon was of equal merit to their post being seen by everyone. Even when there were discord raids trying to spin things by downplaying someone's post, it would still attract attention from the (you)s or just number of replies. Meanwhile with twitter? Get ratiod or whatever, or you don't have enough followers so people will dismiss your point even if you have receipts. Reddit? Get downvoted to oblivion the minute you post meaning a lot of people wouldn't see your comment. Youtube? Dislikes will bury you and maybe your comment will get eaten due to using certain words that triggers the bots.

>>10036 >for 1m+ dollars I was going to quote homos as a counter argument but no you're right

>>10012 >hololive is ending No need to be that dramatic. Sure this is a hefty reputational hit, but comparing a Hololive contract with fucking Nijisanji? Come on.

>>9971 But shiori and ERB got in

>>10069 See >>10026, it's over, there's no way for Cover to spin the narrative. Everyone is starting to see Cover and Yagoo for what it really is.

Still 0 graduation.

>>10049 Impossible to know, Nerissa says they have enough freedom, unless Gura wants to do react content or something like that, I can only think it's about money split.

>>10029 >>10089

>>10089 Kobo.

>>10092 Gura cant do shitposts, her songs and projects get canceled or heavily cut and her managers make fun of her for asking for games Thats it, any money cope is retarded and game perms are just a tiny part of the issue

100k by holos in 2025 1. Holo new year afterparty (hololive/01-01) 2. Pekomama Collab (Pekora/01-01) 3. Mikorone part 1 (Miko/02-01) 4. Mikorone part 2 (Korone/03-01) 5. Ceres Fauna graduation (Fauna/03-01) 6. Gomaku tourney draft (Miko/04-01) 7. Gomoku tourney part 1 (Miko/05-01) 8. 4th gen live (hololive/05-01) 9. Gomoku tourney part 2 (Miko/05-01) 10. Janken tourney (Pekora/11-01) 11. Pekora Bday 3D Live (Pekora/12-01) 12. New years games festival (Towa/13-01) 13. HoloX anniversary Live (hololive/19-01) 14. Sakamata Chloe graduation live (Chloe/26-01) 15. Peko Vs Marine clubhouse game 51 (Pekora/02-02) 16. Holo typing speed contest (Miko/01-03) 17. Oozora Subaru anniversary 3D Live (Subaru/02-03) 18. Sakura Miko Bday Live (Miko/05-03) 19. Murasaki Shion graduation announcement (Shion/06-03) 20. Color Rise Harmony 1st Stage (hololive/08-03) 21. Color Rise Harmony 2nd Stage (hololive/08-03) 22. Color Rise Harmony 3rd Stage (hololive/09-03) 23. Nanashi Mumei graduation announcement (Mumei/28-03) 24. REGLOSS mini UNREAL 3D Live (hololive DEV_IS/30-03) 25. Sakura Miko 2D Live debut (Miko/01-04) 26. Inugami Korone Anniversary 3D Live (Korone/13-04) 27. Gawr Gura graduation announcement (Gura/16-04) # of 100k streams last year: 58

>>10072 and? a counter argument would be people who refused to join, not people who joined.

>>10165 >Refused to join People saying they dont want to join publicly is different than refusing to join

>>10157 How would it feel that half of the money you are making is being used to pay the salary of people whose job it is to tell you that they just can't sign off on your project?

>>10157 But she can. She just doesn't want to. See CC for example.

>>10088 I'm for Yagoo getting a fire lit under his ass after the past 8 months, but people venting on X isn't "everyone". If we come back in a week and there are several million view tweets and videos where the prevailing sentiment is that Hololive is over and Yagoo/other talents have to address it publicly, then yeah I'll agree with you.

>>10148 She already said several months ago that she won't graduate voluntarily. Only via termination. For now. I couldn't find the English subtitles clip, though. Only this screenshot.

>>10157 Can gura do this

>>10157 Let's see when she comes back as Indie, before Holo it was the same song and dance, will be the same song and dance again. Just like Kson, all that freedom made her 10 times worse.

I actually feel bad for ERB. Imagine having your birthday the day before the start of nearly back to back graduations kek