I have never been able to get off to anything like that, the idea disgusts me tbh, too close to incest for my taste. My poor relationship with my mother is probably why I ended up with this fetish.

>>10390 I think the most common cause of the ABDL fetish in men at least is mommy issues. It's the case for me at least

>>10407 I always figured the leading cause was parental issues (I didn't have any parent issues or anything, but I'm willing to say I'm likely an outlier). With your comment, I'm really wondering if there is a discrepancy in the cause of abdl between mommy and daddy issues.

>>10407 >>10410 i dont think so tbh, based on the abdls ive spoken to the most common thing i hear is something to the effect of 'i've always had a fascination with diapers even from a very early age' idk i dont want to say people are born with fetishes or anything but it does seem like a lot of people develop them early, likely before any parental issues could develop

>>10390 This is the TLDR version of events. When I was a much younger woman and met my future husband he was an AB. At first I didn’t really understand it but over time I started to love babying him. We eventually had our first child, my son whom I love dearly. My husband passed away in a work related accident when our son was 3. My husband had many Adult Baby and Diaper Lover friends. It took me some time to grieve for my husband, but I was soon playing mommy to many of his friends. This was NEVER around my son and only done when he was at school! After 2 years I finally decided it was time to pack up my late husband's things. I’m a very sentimental person, and couldn’t find it in my heart to get rid of his stuff just yet. Most of it ended up in boxes in the garage. Just after my son turned 8 he started to ask questions about his dad. Not thinking I told him he was welcome to go though his dad's things in the garage. Imagine my surprise when he came in holding a diaper, pacifier, and onesies that belonged to him! I had completely forgotten about the adult baby stuff! I told some little white lie about it. Telling my son that like him daddy was a bedwetter. Like him, dad had sucked his thumb, and that’s why we had that stuff. OH BOY did that open a can of worms! Long story short a few days later I found myself diapering, dressing and cuddling on the couch with my son. NOT that I wasn’t ok with it, it’s just I’d REALLY tried to keep all the Adult Baby stuff out of his life. Anyway from about age 8 to 15 when he stopped wetting the bed every night was baby time. He also spent a few weekends a month as my little boy. At 15 it started to taper off, the last time I babied him was shortly after his 17th birthday. Not much was ever really said about it between us till he was 26. Over dinner one night he brought it all back up and asked if dad had a diaper fetish. I told him the truth about his dad and many of our friends being AB’s or DL’s. He expressed that he too was an AB and that the only reason he’d stopped wanting me to baby him was societal pressures to man up. Plus he found himself getting aroused by it all and thought that was weird. End of the story, he met a WONDERFUL girl, who was also a Little and they got married. I now have a few grandkids and I get to baby them, as they are babies! I also have a few Littles I play aunty to, but I’m not the spring chicken I used to be ; ). So yes there are those of us out there! If you have any questions feel free to ask. Be good little boys and girls and have a GREAT day!

>>10419 ...and everyone clapped.

>>10419 Yeah, I've never even met a woman who was willing to baby her husband. Calling bullshit on all of this.

>>10411 >>10407 >>10410 I’ve been in the AB/DL scene for 35ish years. The most common reason I’ve heard about why people became AB’s or DL’s, is they were put back in diapers for bed/pants wetting by understanding/not so understanding parents. >>10390 That said me and two of my siblings were diaper/baby punished for bed/pants wetting as kids. Of the three of us two, me and my youngest bio brother are both AB’s. The third brother (the middle kid) died in an accident at 19. But in comments from him and his girlfriend, I think he was possibly an AB or at least a DL. So yeah it has happened before for what it's worth. I have 3 other siblings, a sister, and two brothers. One, the youngest, was adopted, he's technically my cousin, six of us in total. (freaking Mormon!) Anyway none of them are into the AB/DL thing that I’m aware of. But none of them got diaper/baby punished as kids. >>10422 I call bullshit on your bullshit! My wife wasn't into the AB scene until she met me. She babies me and she enjoys it. She's been doing it for 19 years of our marriage. We have many age players in our circle of friends that have spouses that baby them. So yeah it totally happens, sorry you've not met the right person yet.

>>10422 >>10429 The thing that breaks it for me isn't really the husband being babied by the wife. That actually seems believable to me though I'll note that most women probably are going to see a guy as less of a man if he wants her to do stuff like babying or feminizing him, but the son finding his dead dad's fetish gear then being into it and bringing it up with his mom who then participates in the son's own ABDL stuff is bizarre, incestuous, and sounds like something out ABDL fiction more than a real thing that would happen. Who finds their parent's fetish stuff and isn't disturbed by it even if they too are into that fetish? I'd certainly be bothered a bit if I discovered one of my parents had a secret ABDL stash and I think most people would just try to ignore it or wouldn't mention they had found that to their parents.

>>10410 I had a very normal healthy childhood, so if that's the case I'm an odd one out too.

Man seems like most common reason for abdl scene is thinly veiled child abuse.

>>10476 What do you mean

>>10451 >I had a very normal healthy childhood, so if that's the case I'm an odd one out too. Same here. No parental issues/abuse and I still gravitate towards this sometimes

>>10407 Suspicion about my Mom being inappropriate with me when I was really really young. Parents divorced when I was 6. Dad disappeared when I was 8. When my dad left my Mom was really violent and emotionally neglectful. Since I cannot trust women enough to feel myself vulnerable around them and I am not attracted to men the ultimate fantasy is someone providing love, support and care trying to compensate what I did not have growing up, likely will settle for the occasional escort/dominatrix. Yup.

>>10390 I wouldn't be surprised if there are occurrences of this because of troons and parents actively pushing that on their children. Slippery slope and all. Or I could see a manipulative son forcing it on his mother. >Okay fine just let him wear diapers. >Alright I will buy him diapers so I don't have to deal with his tantrums. And then however far done the slope you think it could slip.

>>10407 This will probably remain the great unsolved mystery of my life. However, I do know the following: >In my early first years, both my parents were working busy jobs with odd hours and probably left me alone for long periods of time >I have a younger brother and younger sister who benefitted from my parents having more time and money on their hands by the time they came along. (Incidentally I have both AB and sissy fantasies) >My dad is stingy as hell but ESPECIALLY when it comes to consumables (like, say for example, diapers) >My dad has a cynical sense of humour and has a record of mocking and humiliating people to influence them So it's probably hidden somewhere in there.

>>46929 Your parents weren't around much to change your diapers and your dad let them get full to save money and made jokes about it at your expense. You are trying to bring back that full feeling you had from childhood and now you have a diaper fetish. Shit happens.

I think I hate my actual mom... I dont know if its abandonment issues or she did something to me when I was a kid or something but the appeal for me in ABDL is finding someone exactly NOT like my mom

>>46931 Thanks doc, the thought did cross my mind. However it may have also been something that happened to my younger siblings that somehow got my wires crossed between 'unconditional love' and 'getting mocked for being a dumb diaper baby'. Freud believed that sexual paraphernalias form between 3 and 5 years old so this checks out.

>>10476 it true

>>10419 >babying your kid from age 8 to 15 That doesn't sound healthy.

>>10390 If it happened it didn't end well. Child services getting involved and all of that I mean. Though I do remember that when I was a child I saw some kids around 5 or 6 y/o drinking from baby bottles a couple of times, enough to make an impression on me. It wouldn't be too out there that a mother with this very same mindset would try to baby her son in some other ways, especially if he's having nighttime accidents and therefore require diapers. Maybe she could add some baby clothing under the justification of being more comfortable for him, and then pacifiers so he can sleep more soundly and perhaps reduce his stress so he would have lower chances of wetting himself. As some anon mentioned it would be something of a slippery slope, starting slowly but then the mother finding out she's into it and the son being conditioned to like it unbeknownst to her mother, but making her feel like she's not doing anything wrong since he's comfortable with it. This situation would already be pretty rare, but it would be even more rarer if something like this went on without any outsider finding out and calling social services or at least confronting the mother or telling anyone else. It's a very precarious situation, so if it has actually happened it would require some single mother only child scenario to realistically work at least.

>>46945 It’s just larping, no problem. Anon is just practicing their creative writing.

>>10419 Honestly, I can believe this is real to an extent. Like another anon commented, I also saw some kids around 5 to 6 years old drinking from baby bottles and even using pacifiers. It's not that out there or not that uncommon, really. Hell, I "stopped" drinking from a baby bottle when I was 12.

>>46945 >>46949 I know this is a LARP, because women do not act like that it reeks of male fantasy, but goddamn it those weird ass boy moms online can so close to that territory. Also that anon has to be like a highly sheltered 23 max with no kids, because they're not old enough (or have been in the fetish long enough) to remember when people used to try to raid walgreens for shitty green colored adult diapers, because abdl fetish supplies did not exist. Just timeline wise it would downright impossible for her husband (or any spouse) to have had an abdl stack worth having, and to have an adult kid.

>>47011 Honestly parents these days trooning their kids out is less strange than letting them wear diapers.

Shit, its more strange for parents to troon kids than let them wear diapers. But its probably extremely uncommon.

>>47013 >troon You're the only loser using this term here. Do you say this garbage irl or are you just a garbage human being online? Don't answer that actually, I know the answer.

>>47014 You are not losing any rights in the United States. You are not welcome in childrens bathrooms or childrens sports. I dont care about you. But some men will murder you if you try and trick them into thinking you are actually the opposite sex. I am not one of them because it is 100% obvious you are not biologically what you say you are. I dont hate you I have figured out exactly what you are. You are not welcome near children. Sorry.

>>47016 >actual weirdo justification for being garbage The world would be better without you. Deep down you know this. That's why you lash out at others who are different than you with different world views because you cannot handle being looked at like a weirdo. You need to think of yourself as normal, because otherwise you'd kill yourself. I've met many like you, and every one of you is a waste of time, energy, and resources. You'd choose yourself and your ideologies before you choose to listen others. You'd choose to hate instead of open your door in times of need. You'd choose to ignore instead of understand. I wouldn't let you near my children if you paid me a million dollars. Look around you. This board is very LGBGQ+ friendly as well as furry/fetish friendly. You are not welcome here. Get lost. >i dont care about you >uses the word troon in a sentence with as much hateful energy as possible on an internet message board Ok bro. You're trash. I'd discard you as such with no hesitation, just know that.

Why does EVERY thread devolve into faggots arguing with each other? You are discussing trans people on a board where people jack off to pooping in baby diapers. Both of you need to kill yourselves.

Mutiliator!

You deserve the mockery and the scorn you lousy child abusing perverted Sodomite sex offender!

You're just proof that rainbow perverts will say and do anything to justify your sexual crimes and sexual misconduct! You will go to any and all lengths to justify your nihilism, your hedonism, and the destruction of yourself and everyone around you!

Damn all fetishists! Damn all sexual deviants! Damn all boozers! Damn all furries! Damn all drunks! Damn all dope fiends! Damn all shitlibs! Damn all hedonistic bastards! Damn all anarchists! Damn all commies! Damn all pinkos! Damn all globalists! Damn all bronies! Damn nihilists and finally damn you!

>>47025 https://youtu.be/PAAUKmyxwWQ?si=s2sE7YZ2Yc7zAa8o

>>47019 Seethe, cope, dilate, and kill yourself troon. You will never be a woman, and your man name will be on your grave forever.

>>47020 ABDLs don't typically go around self-identifying as babies and enforcing that society validate their delusions. Once you get unwilling participants involved in your degeneracy, you lose support. The other guy may be profoundly retarded, but let's not pretend that the two concepts are equivalent.

>>47033 >ABDLs don't typically go around self-identifying as babies and enforcing that society validate their delusions I wonder how society would react to that. Maybe when they're done beating the trannies they will go for us.

>>47045 >go for us nice fearmongering but your logic falls apart really quickly when you consider that it takes common sense to realize not everyone will go outside dressed with ABDL clothes exposing this shit to unwilling strangers

>>47032 >troon How does it feel to be the only loser on this board that actually unironically uses that word? Must feel pretty lonely. Do me a favor, when you inevitably kill yourself because you realize how much your worldview is flawed and your life has been one big waste of hateful energy can you record it? I want to wank off to it. Fucking loser. I'm not a "troon" or whatever bro, but I'll tell you this, I'd rather be one of them than one of you any day. You're a disgrace, a pile of garbage, and I'd sooner see you tortured alive for months on end than give you any sort of sign of respect. Like look at you, you're the ONLY one here, the ONLY one here that uses this word. No one else. Do you ever look in a mirror and recite the shit you say? I bet you'd cringe just listening to yourself. No one here is a bigger loser than you.

>>47020 I like to bait him because he's a retard that thinks using that word makes him cool. I'm not actually an ally or whatever, but every time I see that fucking word I cringe harder than when I remember shit I said when I was 10. Dude's unironically a loser, and he needs to be made aware of that.

>>47050 You are a troon and you will kill yourself soon.

>>47052 You are a loser and you will kill yourself soon.

Rot in hell pervert!

Go choke on a cactus child groomer!

>>47047 >not everyone will go outside dressed with ABDL clothes exposing this shit to unwilling strangers For now.

>>47014 >>47019 >>47049 >>47050 Go back to Reddit.

Can you guys just hate fuck already? Stop rping in every thread, it’s tiresome.

I ain't rping. The schmuck making excuses genital mutilation is vomit inducing and I sincerely loathe that user. I would not touch that walking tumor with a pole as it would contaminate and ruin a perfectly good pole.

>>47083 No. Does that anger you? You mad? >>47100 You speak like a 16 year old with 0 life experience. That's why I poke you. You have no idea who these people are, what they deal with on a daily basis. And you have the audacity to ridicule them with judgement as though you have all the answers. You're pathetic, immature, and a degenerate fuck. I'd punch you in the face with ZERO hesitation. You'd cry bitch and moan like the faggot you are. 1000%. I'm a straight white male, and frankly part of me agrees with you. There's always been a part of me that has never truly understood why people choose to be the opposite gender. But does it effect me? Does it really effect my life? Not really bro. The fact that you can sit here and talk about it with such anger says to me that it effects you. Which, in effect means it controls a part of your life and your world view. You learn later on in life that frankly you're better off in life just letting people be who they want to be and worrying about your damn self. You wanna meme, poke the bear, whatever bro. Whatever disdain for me trust that I have twice as much for you. You are a joke. And the funny thing is outside of this little niche club here you know that. You look around and see people with the flags, the stickers, the shirts, etcetc and you seethe. You look at pride parade and punch a wall don't you? You're pathetic, and I feel sorry for you. At least, I would if you weren't such a fucking bitch. Grow up.

>>47095 I'm intentionally replying to people to bait them into focusing on me instead of the actual board/content itself. These people are so dumb that they will still do it even if I admit I'm just poking the bear. Watch this dude reply to me and see. It's all apart of the plan man.

>>47107 Seems like an odd board to rage bait on, but who am I to kink shame.

You admit you're a pervert and only exist to cause trouble. You're the problem. You deserve the hate and scorn. You deserve the mockery because at its very core fetishism and lgtbq and sexual deviance is indefensible, repugant, and degenerate. It isn't pride or socially acceptable which that is by your people. It is a immoral disease and destructive social contagion.

>>47127 You perverts don't have pride you hubris and nihilism because you are all self destructive hedonists.

>>47049 >>47050 >low traffic board >2 replies within 2 minutes of each other both malding >putting the fag in samefag >the his in hysteria keep seething troon

>>10390 With how off topic this thread got, it's fair to say this is more of a witch hunt thread than something that could be in relation to the thread itslelf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2x1yP2cpE8 Here's a best of the worst video where RLM covers a 1973 film called, "The Baby". The premise provides an insight into the idea of being ABDL 24/7, and the ramifications of mental corruption in the pursuit of forced dependency. >Maybe being regressed forcefully is a bad thing or something?

>>47132 AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDSSSSSSSS

>>47129 The fact that you're getting trolled into thinking someone is me is actually hilarious to me. I haven't been able to post for 2 days because admin disabled new bypasses for a bit because we got into a spitting match in private. Even he realizes he can't do that 24/7 though because there would be a huge hit on traffic. Not even mad tbh. Continue please.

I refuse to believe it hasn't happened at least once in the history of the world. To be a fly on the wall in that particular house would certainly be interesting.

Unfortunately I think the reality is that looking after babies is considered to be a fairly traumatic and difficult time for most mothers they would rather not repeat. This is an inconvenient part of the ABDL fantasy, and also why it tends to disgust normies on quite a visceral level.

>>47889 I've always assumed it was because babyhood is this sacred thing that it shouldn't be tarnished by adults, so pretending to be a baby for any reason, specially sexual gratification, is considered disgusting.

>>47890 I guess it's open to interpretation. My understanding: our amygdala tells us babies are sacred and cute, because if it didn't, nobody would want to look after them and thus raise a new generation of humans. Take away the cuteness and you have something like a mentally retarded adult - something that naturally fills people with disgust and pity. When it's just someone "pretending" to be retarded, there's no pity, only disgust.

>>47889 I'm not so sure. I mean yeah, as a general rule, having to clean up bodily fluids is disgusting, but it's not traumatizing. Most people just see it as gross and inconvenient. Some people are really blasé about it. A lot of mothers love the baby years. For some people it's their favorite period of raising children. Like >>47907 said it's mostly just because our brains tell us babies are cute. And everything associated with them is cute as well. Including diapers and having to change diapers. IDK though for some women that same mentality seems to go beyond children as well, maybe something gets a little crossed when it comes to female psychology like this. There's a few examples I can think of of women who also extend that same idea of diapers being 'cute' to caring for adults as well. It sorta leads to this weird thing where certain women won't be ABDL, and it's completely non-sexual for them, but they still have a weird fascination for diapers. Whether it's associated with babies or adults. I can think of two female youtubers who review diapers and baby products but also talk about adult diapers and ABDL products, despite claiming to not be into it, they just have a fasciantion with diapers as products. Also, if you've ever been to Diaper Depot in Atlanta, the woman who used to run the shop (Helen I think?) had that same mentality. She had a caring personality and thought diapers were fascinating, but very adamantly claimed she wasn't ABDL. However, she occasionally wore diapers herself just to see how they performed as products.

>>48015 She was probably into diapers but didn't wanted to be associated with the bunch that shit and piss them to cum.

Only if my mother wasn't suck a asshole cunt, I'd let her do this. But since she has her head stuck up her ass FUCK NO.