>>43676 I'd assume it's not just a problem with ABDL communities

Everything Absolutely everything has been flooded by brain dead ESLs. It's like the rest of the world finally got DSL or some shit. No one even tries any more. Also, this wasn't worth its own thread. Fuck you too.

I used to be a braindead ESL but I eventually learned by exposing myself to the language, trial and error and using google translate for everything I didn't knew. Just give them time, they'll learn eventually.

>>43686 Key issue here is being braindead or retarded. I survived the 1337 haX0r phase of the internet, poor English is just whatever. It's when they arrogantly carry on using entire phrases incorrectly, and then either try to argue that they're right or pretend they didn't say it at all. If you actually learned, then you're not braindead. I only barely speak a second language myself, and I certainly don't try to shout down those that speak it natively. The problem with hug boxes and safe spaces and the entire degenerative culture that surrounds that rot is that it basically absolves everyone of any incentive to improve, or even adhere to any form of a standard. I think it's just looks like it's a language issue because you're only seeing text. If we were in the same room as these retards, we would see their sloppy clothes, hygiene, body language, etc. The only way to fix it or to have a community without it is to first have a community with behavioral standards. Only problem is then these same retards see that as an invitation to call out every single typo. Which is missing the point entirely. The entire planet needs a paradigm shift to fix this issue. Good fucking luck.

>>43676 i've often wondered if having a diaper fetish makes you more retarded, for the same reasons you're posting about. i don't think i'm particularly dumb, most people tell me i'm pretty smart, but i'm naive and autistic in a lot of interpersonal situations so idk. the ESL thing is because of globalization. even shithole countries have internet access now. and the thing we all have in common across borders, is degenerate sexual interests.

It's been hard to make friends in the community bc everyone I meet is the type of freak to tell their parents and coworkers they're into diapers. I wish there was a group of normal pants pissers

>>43696 This, most of these people barely attempt to learn or change and talking to them is extremely draining (especially in fetish communities like these) because they don't know much besides asking you if you need them to be your CG or "do you wear diapers" and the most boring shit nobody cares about questions ever. Those tranny diaper discords on 4/lgbt/ were more tolerable than anything like the massive ABDL discords or the average disboard dead server or the ABDL chatovod. And? This is because those are well gatekept communities, and most of these retards get filtered out trying to get in because they don't know how to use imageboards. >>43705 If you post here that already means you're not retarded as the cattle on public ABDL discord/telegram/facebook retards so give yourself a good pat on the back buddy. >>43706 This. I just wanna talk about diaper kino and art and not the most dull boring shit everyone knows already. This place is one of the few good places remaining for that if you avoid the shitty threads.

its mostly in the name of being inclusive you get to just run your mouth with raw garbage spewing out. and the mods will tolerate instead of correct it. and suddely you attract an echo chamber of garbage spewers too. so now normal people are booted for saying "hey wait thats wrong" because you just created a bad vibe. and the owner happens to like that user, or youre the source of negativity for not coddling and reinforcing their garbage behavior and going against the grain. tldr - typical online cliqueing is rampant in ABDL

>>43676 Monolingual anglo baby seething over multilingual chads

fr fr

What 'communities' are you even talking about I've seen zero of the sort. Closest thing is that Carotte is french and has a couple french friends

>>43706 I've met a handful of cool people over the years but they're outweighed 10/1 by absolute basket cases. I imagine that the majority of people into ABDL are regular functional adults but that they don't even bother trying to find friends in these circles after seeing all the horror stories about groomers, doxxing, meet-ups, events, etc.

Do you have the time To listen to me whine About nothing and everything all at once? I am one of those Melodramatic fools Neurotic to the bone, no doubt about it Sometimes, I give myself the creeps Sometimes, my mind plays tricks on me It all keeps adding up I think I'm cracking up Am I just paranoid? Am I just stoned? And I went to a shrink To analyze my dreams She says it's lack of sex that's bringing me down And I went to a whore He said my life's a bore So quit my whining 'cause it's bringing her down Sometimes, I give myself the creeps Sometimes, my mind plays tricks on me It all keeps adding up I think I'm cracking up Am I just paranoid? Huh yeah, yeah, yeah (Ooh, ooh) Grasping to control So I better hold on Sometimes, I give myself the creeps Sometimes, my mind plays tricks on me It all keeps adding up I think I'm cracking up Am I just paranoid? Am I just stoned?

From the hundred's of ABDL's I've met at events and munches only 3 I've allowed to become Facebook friends and keep in contact with on a consistent basis. I'm pretty picky who I let into my circle of friends.

Don't worry abdl is becoming increasing trendy among mtf trannies so the fetish is gonna be gentrified with people who can speak english

Every community, fetish related or not, has non english speaking idiots. I think ABDL in general has even less of these people because cute, non-medial, diapers are, mostly, only available in english speaking countries. Also, you know how during summer it can be a pain to wear diapers, now imagine in hot countries. They are even less likely to have ABDL communities. That's all to say if you hate ESL people, you're mostly safe here.

>>43749 hi, i'm not a english speaker :)

>>43742 I love how it's half because they're cute and half just because we need to piss so much if we take spiro. Plus I'm not sure but like, I feel like something it does, similar to like how it makes it impossible to rlly get a full boner or makes it way less sensitive down there, genuinely makes it a bit harder to tell when you need to go? Cuz I'm not even on spiro any more but I still wear a ton because otherwise I'm literally racing to the bathroom most of the time.

>>43676 There are roughly 2 billion Indians in the world, and more of them get internet access every day. They're not segregated from our internet by their government the way the Chinese have been, and they have their own semi-retarded dialects of English thanks to their time as a colony. Almost everything about the way the internet has changed in the past ten years is downstream of this fact and nothing makes sense if you don't understand it.

>>45047 He is, though. Objectively. While he gets fat off of government payments, you have to jump through hoops and ration whatever weird barely-edible local specialty your country has to buy a single pack of ABUs. And that's if your father doesn't disown and ritually execute you first.

>>45047 >So lacking in self awareness that this anon is actually proving OP's point by being an obsessed autistic dipshit spamming the board

>>45062 Very "I was only pretending to be retarded" energy here.

Taking it all into perspective, from IRL and online, there's nothing about ABDLs' retardation that stands out from normal people's. It's frustrating to navigate the world today if you're the type to take advantage of infinite information. Most people prioritize Family and Fun, with plenty of infotainment on the side. Good for them

>be me >ESL >make mistakes from time to time but mostly pass as native (unless I have to speak) >go to youtube or any other braindead social media >read native english speakers >use "your" instead of "you're" all the time, along other grammatical horrors >tfw I'm better than them in their own language Imagine being in current year and not being bilingual. Lol, lmao even.

>>43760 MTF Trannies are just a convenient vehicle for it. Low level autism/aspergers is prevalent among them, with means both heightened sex drive and a much-heightened proclivity to sexual fetishism. There's many fetishes trendy among mtf transgenders, gender bender, feminization, puppy play, abdl, daddy dom shit, hypno and not only that I see them proudly display these fetishes on their public accounts while arguing about fucking politics LMAO. Far less ABDL in that case but so many openly into pup play and basing their whole personality around it. Kind of insane in a way to be talking shit about political opponents while being called pain slut pup on twitter It's kinda crazy really because ABDL has always been a kind of disgusting fetish full of the wrong kind of freaks, like the op says esl and generally retarded people. The influx of trannies means the iq level is gonna increase (mtf has 114iq average which is crazy high) and probably also the average attractiveness of people into the fetish is going to increase, most of the fetish trannies on twitter at least reach like twinkhon level of decently androgynous person with an alright face which compared with fat hairy dude is a massive upgrade to most people. In a way I'm surprised mtf has adopted abdl so prominently, compared to like pup play or hypno it's a really deviant fucked up fetish. There's going to be massive changes in the abdl community. If I was to rate positives and negatives of trannies colonizing ABDL +Troons are intelligent on average, way less ESL shit or weird baby talk on forums in non fetish situations +Probably will increase the average attractiveness of ABDLS overall +More people into ABDL -Trannies are obsessed with left wing cultural politics to an obscene degree and many can't but not cover their fetish account timelines with politics bullshit -Popularization of ABDL may lead to more abuse from normalfags, might become a topic youtubers talk about for example -ABDL community might become dominated by transgenders and their interests

>>45403 I wonder if the popularity of ABDL will make it to a point in which we have our own 50 shades of grey moment, and by that I mean theatres packed with women in their 40s and 50s watching some chad whipping what's basically an avatar of themselves. How would you replicate something like that but for the ABDL community? who can be the perfect baby? I think an androgynous small and feminized baby would be perfect for that role, and who fits that description better than a tranny, perhaps someone non-binary, a small one ideally who still retains some mannish features while being pretty distinctively feminine. And of course the caretaker would had to be a woman, ideally someone voluptuous who exudes motherhood from every pore of their body. I'm thinking the lady from mad men here, someone with that body and the corresponding attitude. What I'm trying to say with this is that we need more trannies in the community so the shitty fanfic based in a shitty book can be written and later adapted into a movie. We need that critical mass so that moment can happen and the public can finally accept that it's totally fine if you want to wear diaper and act like a toddler while someone more mature and capable takes charge. We need the trannies. They're going to save the ABDL community from stigma and ostracism. And maybe they will convince pampers from doing adult diapers from recreative purposes, but maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here.

>>45403 >>45404 >this level of obvious bait kys

>>45405 Anything with a daddy would be problematic by that point, even more than it would be today, so it would have to be a mommy. Now, md/lb could work but who wants to watch some grown ass man as the baby. You want someone who can capture better the fantasy of being an innocent and dependent baby, and for that you need someone at the very least androgynous.

>>45405 I am too new to chans, I almost fell for it, thanks anon

>>45402 Your English is actually really passable, so I’m taking a shot you’ll understand this. Don’t know what language you speak, but whatever it is your language will have slang terms, accents, or different figures of speech based on whatever region you’re from in your country, or older people will use language differently than younger people. Mastery of a language, what makes someone a native speaker, is when all that off rules shit is still happening, but it’s not hindering communication or understanding. A lot of ESL speak/write/understand English in a way that is completely illegible to native English speakers. From the native perspective it’s like ESL are speaking an entirely different language, but ESL are insistent they’re speaking English, so get very offended and pissed off when natives inform them they don’t understand English well enough to communicate with native speakers. For example, trying to talk to argue with Germans in English online is insufferable, because for some reason they always have a huge problem with understanding the point or thesis of anything they read (but still want to argue with you over basically anything). I’m not entirely sure how to describe it. Take the sentence “I got rained on today, good thing I brought my umbrella.” A fucking German would argue “you never said it was raining,” and genuinely believe that. They expect you to talk to them like “I would like you to know it was raining outside today. It was raining today outside. I was outside when it was raining. I got very wet from the rain, even though I brought an umbrella. Yes, I was using the umbrella, but I still got wet.” If you don’t talk to pajeets like that they won’t understand you at all, but Germans will actually fucking argue that’s how you should speak/write English. This isn’t how native English speakers speak English, nor is strict adherence to language rules how anyone speaks their own language. There’s a form of English as the ‘universal language’ that native English speakers don’t really speak, so if people are traveling in Asia or Europe who aren’t native speakers, and they ask each other “do you speak English?” “yes I do.” They’ll start speaking that form which is pretty useless and illegible to native English speakers, it’s not their accent that’s wrong, it’s that there’s an understanding issue, they can’t really throw sentences together and have them mean anything of substance. What I did right there for example, I said “pretty useless and illegible to native English speakers,” then I used “their” not to refer to native English speakers, but to refer to the other group in the sentence the people “speaking a form of English.” I can do that and have that sentence make sense to a native English speaker, but it’s the type of thing that confuses ESL (or children who can’t really read). Native English speakers write grammatically like shit, and follow none of the rules, because we can write like we speak. When we write like we speak it’s illegible to people who can’t really speak English. I can also switch between ESL and non native English speakers, and have that make sense to a native English speaker. I can use native or native English speaker, and while on a chan I might get called an autist for being all over the place it's still followable. Basically ESL communicate in English just as badly as Americans would communicate in whatever that ESL's person's first language is, but for some reason the cultural norm is you can't mention that ESL people are actually shit at English as spoken by native English speakers. As an additional point I think retardation, low iq, and stupidity is a huge issue in English speaking countries too, and there are a lot of native English speakers I wouldn't want to talk to either.

I think a good chunk of it isn't even ESL at this point but Zoomers and older Gen Alpha kids that are so used to autocorrect and typing on phones that their spelling, grammar, and physical keyboard typing skills are all shit even in their first language. Then combine that with mental health and social problems that started with Millennials and got worse with Zoomers and Gen Alpha that are now even more terminally online.

>>45403 Diaper trannies best trannies. Imho the rest of ABDL fetishists are complete retards besides the actual girls and them. They're actually extremely fun to talk to anywhere compared to talking to the average thisvid diaper video commenter or some random discord nigger in a ABDL server.

>>45538 I have no problems understanding native english, mostly because I've learned most of my english here, as in in halfchan or other internet communities, or watching media were there's lots of that native english. Anyways, that has nothing to do with you fucking apes using "your" as "you're", there's no excuse to be that retarded. Though I have to admit spanish speakers have the same problem with words like "o sea" being written as "osea", the first one meaning something along the lines of "I mean" and the second one being the conjugation of the verb "osear", which means to scare birds or some shit. So yeah, there's a lot of that retardation here too, but that's not because they're speaking in some native code gringos nunca entenderán la complejidad del español shit, that's just them being retards. I write in the way you just described in both languages and I've never needed to butcher words to do so. Also, use some fucking paragraphs you monster, reading that shit was an ordeal.

I haven't noticed it in this community, but I've noticed it in general. A barrage of incoherent babble masquerading as English. My grammar and punctuation are embarrassingly bad. I do what I can to at least seem coherent. The shit I've seen these days that pass as cohesive English makes me look like goddamn Cormac McCarthy. If a dumbass with learning disabilities like me can put in the effort why can't these other braindead retards do so? >>43706 For the better part of ten years I've been horrified to learn people in this fetish volitionary tell "outsiders" specifically their parents and friends they like this stuff. People these days are far too eager to overshare. >>45543 Agreed.

I'm assuming people just like to type with one hand and with their dick on the other. There's no way otherwise all of these low effort ass sentences are getting through.

>>46621 Like I said mtfs have crazy high average IQ, 114. As long as you can get past the ideological obsessions they have yeah you might be right

>>43676 Almost as if English is the lingua franca and the only way for these very niche fetish communities to connect. You are very smart, anon. Did you know that the majority of the western world is in fact not US-American nor british?

>>43676 >be retard >be born on earth >life is good, mommy takes care of you >get older >fail at everything >mommy and daddy are constantly mad/disappointed with you It makes sense that literal retards would gravitate to this fetish since baby hood is the only time they met expectations and weren't constantly failing

>>45543 >>46641 Unsurprisingly there's actually some research backing this up that outsourcing one's mental skills to stuff like autocorrect and LLM does atrophy one's thinking ability. There's some real concern we're turning into a form of Idiocracy but caused much faster by social trend of outsourcing brainpower to technology instead of lack of selective pressure turning future people into hereditary idiots. "Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtDWDWY_7Bc