i hate discussing political or social issues on a fucking diaper fetish forum for obvious reasons, but this is clearly going to blow over AT SOME POINT. i don't know when, but there's not going to be some kind of permanent 100+% price increase on diapers.

>>48770 >How fucked are we? We are not fucked. Prices will go up for a little while. If you are smart, stockpile now. Wait for this to pass. It will be resolved and Trump is doing what actually needs to be done and should have been done under Clinton.

>>48771 It's shocking to see "people" falling for the classic "trust me bro" scam.

>>48770 EEERRRMMM BYUT ORANGE MAN'S IN CHJERGE

Its likely that medical needs are not tariffed

>>48787 I live in Ireland and the US have been threatening to tariff our pharmaceutical exports so they would 100% tariff medical needs

>>48787 yeah thats not true at all I am glad northshore has at least started to onshore production, but it still doesn't matter because all of the inputs aren't made in the US at the requisite quality. It's a shame, and hopefully we can further build out our plastics industry in Texas, but this all takes time. >>48771 >>48773 I hope you guys are right but I've been dreading this scenario for years and sure enough here it is. The solution is a long term one, and unfortunately Trump isn't doing things correctly to incentivize and/or facilitate manufacturing. Shedding our manufacturing economy and allowing offshoring is what Trump wants to correct but that's going to take more than tariffs. Judging by what his admin seems to think, they slap on tariffs and markets will react by moving production to the US, which is not going to work without actual fucking policy to subsidize, and even then it would take years in an ideal scenario. Even worse our economy was already in an inflation prone near recession and this likely pushes us into stagflation which is the worst possible scenario for growing an economy. Even worse, congress isn't willing to pass legislation to help manufacturing, but instead renew tax cuts and hence cut spending which means less investment. Sure stock up now if you can, but even if I *could* buy 5 years of diapers, my house would be a fucking warehouse lol. all that said, I've seen try agains is slapping on a "$50 Trump tariff surcharge" for a case of diapers and afaict that is either a straight up scam, or they ship direct from the manufacturer. either way those were already a ripoff, a cute ripoff.

>>48795 hah I just saw this email, to supplement this post here is ABU's statement on the tariffs and how they are handing pricing https://news.abuniverse.com/navigating-the-storm-what-escalating-tariffs-mean-for-abu-and-our-community/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekend-waddles-tariff-update-april-2025

be come a european

Your worst nightmares are here as slowly youe vices will all be stripped from you and you will to become normal productive milk toast members of society. Bwhahahahaha Bwhahahahha.

Have fun becoming 9 to 5ers leftists and anons. I cannot think of a more fitting sinister punishment than normality being imposed upon you all.

>>48795 The guy from The Big Short who was portrayed by Steve Carrell said today that he thinks in Trumps big beautiful bill there will be a part of thre bill that says any company that builds a factory in the US 100% of the cost will be tax deductible. But he wasnt sure how robotics and AI will effect peoples jobs in these factories.

What's going to happen is that every single ABDL business is going to get fistfucked into operational costs they can not possibly bear the burden of. You're about to watch Trump crash the economy so hard it's going to make 2008 look like a blip. Most of this board and site voted for exactly what they're asking for. >>48773 >We are not fucked. Prices will go up for a little while. If you are smart, stockpile now. Wait for this to pass. It will be resolved and Trump is doing what actually needs to be done and should have been done under Clinton. >

>>48807 >What's going to happen is that every single ABDL business is going to >get fistfucked into operational costs they can not possibly bear the burden of. > >You're about to watch Trump crash the economy so hard it's going to make 2008 look like a blip. The smaller, poorly run companies may suffer. Especially so if their product is merely branded merch from China and there is no diversification. Northshore will probably be okay. The Supreme line is an EU import; and Megamax USA is US manufactured on shore; but the issue for them may be raw materials – as the options available in the USA for products meeting Northshore’s quality might be hard to source (maybe they can approach P&G and buy raw materials there?). Too bad ConfiDry failed – but if their factory is mothballed, they may have a good option to sell to a Northshore, Rearz, etc.; it would be a prime location to begin manufacturing. As to the 2008 economy, I find it laughable that you brought that up. While the crisis was very clearly a bipartisan effort, the proximal cause of the subprime failure began in the 1990’s with a young future senator working as an attorney and pushing banks to change their policies on lending to people without the ability to repay their loans (see: hXXps://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/fingerprints-of-obama-on-subprime-foreclosure-crisis/) There will be pain with the Trump plan, but it is a necessary pain. The government is morbidly obese, the US is itself tariffed around the world unfairly, our economy has never actually recovered from 2008 (we’ve merely patched the injuries – but never corrected them). Someone previously mentioned moving to Europe, which is a great place with excellent healthcare and jobs with good pay and long vacation times. Also, unrealistically low defense spending in relation to GDP’s – because the US foots the bill. In terms of global security and protecting the world from Chinese imperialism, I have no problem with that – but be fair in the taxes and tariffs on products imported from the US.

>>48809 >In terms of global security and protecting the world from Chinese imperialism, I have no problem with that – but be fair in the taxes and tariffs on products imported from the US. > Is that what you tell yourself every night as you fuck your Trump stuffie in the ass before bed?

>>48810 This is the first time ive ever seen a live post update on this board. This is a hot topic.

Dumb, ignorant MAGA morons seem to think factories and manufacturing just pop up overnight. They seem to think this rapid fire with zero planning tariff strategy is somehow going to result in anything other than the market chaos we're seeing now. >>48811 >This is a hot topic. It's a hot topic because MAGA mouthbreathers are so utterly devoid of IQ that they refuse to see that maybe Trump is WRONG about tariffs, has always been wrong about tariffs and will ALWAYS be wrong about tariffs. What is happening right now is what was always going to happen.

how big of a fucking retard do you have to be to be a right wing diaper fetishist

There is no need to fear; the soul is ultimate, and it will survive all of the hardships of the world. Matter too shall survive. What we call diapers are not actually diapers, but God, and they too shall be liberated from phenomenal existence.

>>48814 When you're right wing enough you hate conservatives more than you do liberals. Having a degenerate fetish is very aristocratic, Evola talks about this.

>>48814 >spend 2020-2024 "saving democracy" by having credit card companies pressure online sites into banning ABDL content Yeah gee I wonder...

>>48814 >how big of a fucking retard do you have to be to be a right wing diaper fetishist > MAGA morons that have fetishes/kinks live under the idea that they'll somehow be exempt from the right-wing morality police. Right-wingers have long had porn on their list of moral sins, they'll end up in the the Mike Pence camp of electric therapy in the end. Voting to fuck the economy because of an illiterate toddler's view of tariff math is just a bonus. >>48819 >>spend 2020-2024 "saving democracy" by having credit card companies pressure online sites into banning ABDL content > That's the credit card processors themselves trying to enforce morality they'll do it for both sides too.

>>48815 lately i've been into the idea of a diaper cult/religion, could be a lot of different things but one concept is taking the "unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven" bible verse completely literally. another option is the other definition of the word fetish: "an inanimate object worshiped for its supposed magical powers or because it is considered to be inhabited by a spirit." some kind of justification for diapers being magical/spiritual and climaxing in them as a way to connect to god. anyways, if i've learned anything from 9/11, the great recession, the pandemic, it's that if enough people that have a LOT of money get upset about something, levers are pulled somewhere that magically result in them not just losing everything.

>>48820 >>48814 >>48812 It's okay anon. The American Psychological Association will soon recognize Trump Derangement Syndrome TDS as a legitimate mental illness and you can get the help you need in the not so distant future. Take care of yourself.

China will need to dump their products in other countries, maybe that'll actually be better for non-americans.

>>48825 I think that that sort of idea can be interesting in fantasy, although I was completely sincere when I made that post. Basically, we should honor diapers because they are actually not diapers, but ultimate glory, in the same way that men are not men, but God. In the context of fantasy though, I have actually connected diaper cults to the idea of youth cults and AR magic. Also, I think that people are definitely sleeping on the anthropological definition of fetish and how it relates to paraphilias. In a very real sense, the diaper is a fetish that is imbued with a magnetic power, and I think that that can actually explain a great deal of the psychology of the exclusive paraphiliac.

>>48789 Are you the only other abdl enjoyer in Ireland? I've never seen anyone else from here even online.

Honestly just wait out the storm, only sperg out when diapers are at insane prices, there's not much you can do other than let your anger out on others. stock up and ration the more expensive ones before prices finally hit and resort to using cheaper ones which sucks but to be realistic it's your only option.

>>48841 >Honestly just wait out the storm, only sperg out when diapers are at insane prices, there's not much you can do other than let your anger out on others. stock up and ration the more expensive ones before prices finally hit and resort to using cheaper ones which sucks but to be realistic it's your only option. > Agreed. That's why I'm making sure all of the MAGA morons on this board understand THEY VOTED FOR THIS. As far as I'm concerned, they don't get to complain about diaper prices one bit since it's what they supported.

>>48814 >how big of a fucking retard do you have to be to be a right wing diaper fetishist What kind of a fucking retard does one have to be to not realize that individual peculiarities and eccentricities do not necessarily translate to ones political proclivities? My sexual and pseudosexual particularities would lend to the notion that I am bi or gay with a paraphilic interest in diapers; it does not mean I am so stupid as to fall into the trap of identity politics instead of thinking for myself. An intense campaign of disinformation, the clear use of the law as a weapon, the repeated and egregious instances of hypocrisy from the media and propagandists in the Democrat party are so remarkable that even my liberal mind cannot ignore them. The far left has abandoned common sense and logic; eschewed honesty outright and refused to work toward compromise or common ground - instead pushing a narrative that the right are all fascists and Nazi bigots (while simultaneously calling for the destruction of Israel and harassment of people of Jewish faith - an irony lost on idiots such as you). I'm not part of the MAGA crowd, but I readily gave my vote to Trump because I am tired of the hypocracy on the left. You refused to admit or call out the Biden administration on the fact that Biden is literally non compos mentis - his 2020 campaign was run from a basement, but you believed the media machine and even discounted the fact that his son's laptop had damning information on it. You pretend to be anti-establishment yet are out protesting because the establishment is currently under attack from a political outsider who threatens to disrupt the political power the Democrat party has stolen over the years. You pretend to be anti-racist and loudly accuse the right of being racist while your talking heads in the media and political hacks whine because their cheap labor is being deported (the left hasn't been this angry since the right took away their slaves). So, what kind of idiot are you? As for me, it's late and I'm tired. I'm going to go and suck some dick before bed. Unlike you, I'll readily admit my sexual perversions and not shout them at others as an insult.

>>48845 > >I'm not part of the MAGA crowd, but I readily gave my vote to Trump You're MAGA, you just refuse to admit it to yourself that you're a piece of shit.

>>48845 Ignore the troons. They can go back to Reddit to jerk themselves off about how smart they are about everything.

Still don't get how people point out how democrats support the establishment whilst simultaneously backing the other party of the establishment. Did everyone post 2014 not want to seem like they were affiliated with "le meme position" centrism?

>>48848 Yeah the republicunts love to tell themselves they hate the elites ..... While supporting a different group of elites. Just look at how the Trumpoids talk about Elon. Peak fatherless behavior. They all need a strong daddy to tell them what to think because they can't form thoughts on their own. Unfortunately we're all going to suffer for their choices while they gaslight themselves into thinking it's for the greater good while their surrogate father figures strip the govt structure for cash and run away laughing.

>>48846 I wish you faggots were right about MAGA and they would hunt you cunt down and hang you at the stake.

>>48852 Unfortunately we're on a fetish board. Maybe this has been lost on you but you would be hanging right next to the faggots and trannies.

>>48853 Nigger take your shit to reddit. I like my nation like I like my diapers, white.

>>48854 I realize this is difficult to accept but to your compatriots you are a degenerate who deserves to die. Sorry to break this to you now I understand how distressing this is for you. Denial is more than just a river in Egypt.

>>48854 >Nigger take your shit to reddit. >I like my nation like I like my diapers, white. Peak based... I legit lol'd.

>>48854 Not going to lie, liking only clean diapers reminds me of the r/ABDL regulars who are straight and only have infantilism as a side dish

>>48858 They start out white at the very least.

>>48851 "Yeah the republicunts love to tell themselves they hate the elites" You have the Democrats and Republicans confused. Before getting into the main argument, you think you're using cleaver portmanteaus and therefore sound smart; but in reality, you sound like a retard who is choking on the shit they scooped out of their diaper. Second, Republicans, by and large, don't really care if someone is wealthy and successful. We celebrate their successes, not cry about fairness because it wasn't us. "Eat the Rich" is a left-wing concept... >>48853 "Maybe this has been lost on you but ..." As to those noting that having this conversation from a conservative perspective on an ABDL board is unusual, perhaps get your head out of your ass and quit pushing identity-based perspectives on politics. There are LGBTQ Republicans and Conservatives; there are many straight Right wingers who engage in some rather non-vanilla practices. Ones sexual predispositions need to be divorced from their political identity. It is a big confusion that the Right is anti-Trans or anti-LGBTQ. The truth is, there are as many legitimate anti-Trans people on the Left as their are on the Right - bias doesn't serve either side. There are things we don't like... Pushing children towards an LGBTQ identity - instead of letting them find their way (enforcing a biased outcome). Pushing early surgeries or therapies that will have lifelong repercussions whilst knowing that a high percentage of individuals have significant identity perception changes between the onset of puberty and late adolescence / early adulthood. Forcing girls and women to change with "trans" individuals when many of those individuals exhibit predatory behaviors indicative of pathological behavior (and arresting the father of a girl who was raped by such a predator). While the data to show this point is limited - either by suppression or by failure to perform the research, I have a strong suspicion that a large number of crossdressers are claiming to be trans to gain access to innocent girls and women; and those girls and women are now being looped into fetishistic fantasy play without consent. One discussion around diaper wearing is that one should never have purposeful public exposures of their diapers - that this type of behavior is unacceptable and brings shame on the AB/DL community as a whole; but we should just accept crossdressers getting their jollies? I'm not talking about those who are trans; there is a difference between those who are actually trans and those who are essentially wearing woman-face and prancing around in public like jackasses. So y'all keep talking about the Right, and MAGA, and Trump, and all those topics - but the spotlight is on you, not us. We know the truth. We know you're just pushing a bullshit narrative; and the more you push, the more the rest of the world knows it, too...

>>48860 Tldr

>>48860 I actually think we could meet in the middle and be friends irl and I'm not really the kind of blue haired lefty that you're imagining, the same way you're not crazy a Trump dude or whatever. The way we spaces are maintained today online and IRL both is predicated on hostility. It's just the best way to maintain people's attention. To tell you the truth, I do consider myself on the left but I can't stand the optics of the modern left and most of the millennial and younger people involved. It's nice to imagine we have the answers but in the end we're all dumbass diaper babies that's why we're here.

>>48864 >I actually think we could meet in the middle and be friends irl My closest friends run along the political spectrum from far left to moderate right. I have no doubt that you and I could get along quite well; though if the conversation turned political, I expect it could become intense; but if you and I are reasonable adults, at some point we quit the politics and move to something more amicable. Friends, families, co-workers, and even strangers have existed in such a manner for many centuries. The biggest issue I have with the "progressive left" is their intense and explicit divisiveness. To the point that some pundits have encouraged their followers to sever relationships with family and/or friends if those individuals are Republican or conservative. This "drink the Progressive KoolAid or fuck off" stance is so damn harmful and frustrating. The cancelling of people simply because they felt a person with a conservative view point had a valid point on a topic of interest is anathema to a good, neighborly society. My conservative friends would never even think to break off our friendships because I believe in marriage equality or equal rights for the LGBTQ community - and frankly, the vast majority of them believe the same. That's just one example, but I find there are more similarities in view points than I find differences. So I agree... We could probably be friends and get along fine.

The whole thing about "public stuff" in relation to identities and fetishes and all of that is that society already went too far with establishing marriage as a legal institution. If one is already considering fetishes and unusual practices to be inherently erotic regardless of etiology, then there is really no way that one can claim that overt romantic relationships in public is acceptable (up to and including any actions in the public sphere that acknowledge one's partner as their husband/wife). Defenses of marriage in the law really depend on a special pleading for sexual or romantic attraction as being somehow fundamental to the human condition, instead of seeing it as something added on that requires the scrutiny of one's peers to be accepted. If someone wants to let it be known that they are married in public, by necessity they are involving others in their dynamic.

Conservatives as a whole, want the country to be in their view of Christianity which means: No LGBTQIA: Because that's sinful No Kink: Because that's sinful No Violent movies or video games: Because that's sinful No music that's not Christian: Because that's sinful. The conservatives were the no fun party long before the left started screaming about pronouns. Conservatives are regressive and it shows in this current tariff situation. They'd rather costs go up for everyone immediately rather than actually slowly ramp things up. Conservatives as a whole are why the left got power in the first place, people got tired of the Christians bitching about everything being evil and satanic. I was hopeful the left would crush the right so maybe Christians learned to shut the fuck up and stop shoving their morality onto others, but instead we're about to get a regime so oppressive to freedom of expression that it's going to make the left look like the free speech party. Fuck off with this "Let's just be friends" bullshit. You deserve to be canceled from every kink space.

>>48837 I'm an exclusive paraphiliac and I completely agree. I felt an "attraction" to diapers from a very young age that I can't explain as anything other than magnetic. Like they called out to me from the changing table. I couldn't stop thinking about them once I was aware of them.

Wrong. The left is completely without any merit or redeeming factors. The left has always been wrong. You have nothing of value to contribute!

The only thing the leftist does is sell illicit addictive drugs and burn down buildings. Leftists are all destructive nihilists without any center or control over their lesser impulses. Leftists deserve no say in any matters and are unfit to vote and are unfit any important position.

>>48892 >Wrong. The left is completely without any merit or redeeming factors. The left has always been wrong. You have nothing of value to contribute! > The Left is the only reason you have ABDL diapers to wear in shame and despair as you masturbate to porn that wouldn't be allowed if the right had it's way. Even if you look at ABDL history as far back as the 80's when it was DPF running the show, it was always a LEFTIST movement. Right-wing morality was always more of a curse on society than the left. The right wrote the template the left uses. Cry harder.

>>48890 >Conservatives as a whole, want the country to be in their view of Christianity which means: Not even close to the truth. Perhaps the far right has their factions, and though these factions may be loud and vocal, they're small and ultimately have little sway (the far right and far left are essentially the same, though with different ideals). >The conservatives were the no fun party long before the left started screaming about pronouns. For the old school conservatives, this is true, but you are failing to recognize the new conservatives. The Millennial and Gen Z conservatives who don't care about your gender ideology or sexual identity one way or the other. Many of the voices in that space are themselves openly gay. >Conservatives are regressive and it shows in this current tariff situation. They'd rather costs go up for everyone immediately rather than actually slowly ramp things up. Then blame the likes of Bush, Obama, Trump I, and Biden... The time for subtlety past by us years ago. >I was hopeful the left would crush the right so maybe Christians learned to shut the fuck up and stop shoving their morality onto others, but instead we're about to get a regime so oppressive to freedom of expression that it's going to make the left look like the free speech party. The Left has been openly pushing for censorship of free speech. The leftists in the media have been caught red handed squashing stories that did not fit their narrative. If one dares go against that narrative, the left quickly cancels and disavows those individuals rather than discuss. Don't sit here and play the role of the free thinker - your side has been using 1984 as a 'how to' guide, complete with newspeak and revisionist history. >Fuck off with this "Let's just be friends" bullshit. You deserve to be canceled from every kink space. I would enjoy the opportunity to have a witful, educated discussion with you on these topics, but you lack wit and are not educated, so I guess that hope is as fleeting as an early morning mist. You proved, in this last statement alone, why the progressive left is finished. Your quickness to categorize all conservatives as deplorable or garbage, similarly to your party's leadership, is the downfall of the Left. This is a core reason why the Democrat Party has floundered. Go on, keep maligning your political foes. You bring nothing of value to the discussion; these opinions and positions are the emperors new clothes - and now that this is widely known, your opinions will continue to fall on deaf ears. Me and boyfriend, both of us deciding on tiedye Megamax diapers under our coveralls, are going out for breakfast - meeting my conservative family for some Cracker Barrel goodness after they get out of church. See, they don't disapprove, hate, condemn, or have any negative feelings towards the relationship between me and him - they welcome our love for each other into the family...

I ain't no lefitst, I hate both choices that we're forced to pick from in American politics. >>48896 >The Left has been openly pushing for censorship of free speech. The party in power will always do that. Right and Left are equally guilty of censorship. Obama defended Fox News existing, whereas Trump is threatening to pull broadcast licenses. I wonder, which party is doing the censoring again? >Me and boyfriend, both of us deciding on tiedye Megamax diapers under our coveralls, are going out for breakfast - meeting my conservative family for some Cracker Barrel goodness after they get out of church. See, they don't disapprove, hate, condemn, or have any negative feelings towards the relationship between me and him - they welcome our love for each other into the family... They'd still throw you off a rooftop if Trump told them to. The conservative right are just as much sheep as the left. Which you'll see more and more of as Project 2025 becomes more and more of a reality.

Here's the thing dumbass leftists have no morality at all. You are nihilists and are worthless.

>>48899 >Here's the thing dumbass leftists have no morality at all. You are nihilists and are worthless. > Talking about me having "no morality at all" on a board that allows a thread posting about dumpster diving used diapers from actual children and allowed a thread about fucking child-sized dolls is the most pathetic of all. If there's anyone that's worthless here, it's you!

>>48899 literally the only thing modern conservative ideology does is make whichever this week's scapegoat's life worse

>>48891 Yeah, I completely get that. I honestly think that current explanations for sexual attraction and the like actually suffer from a pretty big poverty of theory. I think the most common idea is conditioning at an early age, but even traditional ideas of sexual instincts sort of fall flat when you think about what they actually entail (e.g., how can a developing brain actually comprehend complex reproductive behaviors between men and women when the organism has not actually been born yet?). Situations like the one you describe really make me think that the scientific consensus don't know as much about how attraction and fetishes work as much as it claims to.

Your ilk are responsible for that. You are a nihilist as are all leftists. Leftists have no value.

Wrong. Leftists are all destructive nihilists. Scapegoating is your ilk making excuses for the bad behavior. You project your nihilism onto others and make every excuse to justify your bad behavior.

>>48904 >Wrong. Leftists are all destructive nihilists. Scapegoating is your ilk making excuses for the bad behavior. You project your nihilism onto others and make every excuse to justify your bad behavior. > Let's be honest, you're only posting here because literally everywhere else banned you for being a toxic piece of shit. You're rationalizing and making excuses for why you're always going to be alone masturbating to used diapers.

No that disgusting board is you and your leftwing minion's work. You will not put words in my mouth and you will not project your nihilism onto me. The left is to blame and will shoulder the responsibility for every act of treachery it has ever committed.

Hope that the tariffs don't encourage the protected status of Native American sacred sites to be rescinded

I think you retards overestimate how much China wants to let their countries economy crash, there is plenty of Chinese insider sources of canceled overseas orders and their docks completely devoid of workers with shipping containers stacked 7 high. If they just come to the table to unfuck themselves none of you would be worrying about the increased cost. I'm more willing to bet you'll eat it for about a year since all the dropshippers from the ABDL market depend on one factory that probably won't be manufacturing for awhile and the pricing will most likely get better over time. There does need to be some extra incentive for restarting manufacturing, but this is all much needed long term garbage that shouldn't have needed to happen. China is currently economically not a 3rd world country and doesn't need the benefits that 3rd world economies get to advance. If they don't put up they'll go back to it and non-government associated reporters are already showing images of empty streets/malls and even the Beijing airport at peak hours of the day showing that people are gone from there. Maybe just suck off Kimberly Clark to get into the abdl market since they have a bunch of you buying into those goodnites xxl