>>17483
>The diaper was "partially exposed" when the father was in public, hence the risk of embarrasment.
The important thing here would be the intent. Accidental underwear peeks are a thing that happens sometimes, diapers or not. This line of reasoning could just as well be used to say incontinent people aren't fit to have children, which is very obviously a fucked up thing to say. If the judge truly cared for the well-being of the children, the right thing to do would be to prosecute anyone giving them grief over their father's diaper-wearing harshly to make it clear that it's not okay to harass people over it.
>The judge didn't push for 'conversion therapy'
One of the demands was for him to stop doing anything related to the fetish, even in private, with therapy to get rid of it being recommended (but the actual professional rightly called it out for the bullshit it was). So yeah, conversion therapy rhethoric right out of the bible belt.
>I thought this was obvious, but there are a lot more breakups or divorces caused by someone coming out as gay in a heterosexual relationship
For one, I have to wonder why they even got into a heterosexual relationship, and for two, they basically ended it on their own if they're not actually into their partner.
>trans
Well, yeah, if you demanded your partner to acknowledge you as a full-time baby and treat you accordingly, they'd be perfectly justified to leave you too. Your examples are of fundamental incompatibilities, whereas a reasonable ABDL just wants to be able to wear a diaper now and then without even necessarily involving their partner. It's only an issue if the partner decides to make it one because of their own vile nature. Also, LGBT is a lot more common and has a lot more incentive to come out of the closet nowadays, so apples and oranges, but not in the way you claim it is.
>This all sounds specific enough for me to suspect you've had a rough time with a relationship in the past.
Not really, I've just done my research on this stuff. I suggest branching out and reading about the experiences of others once in a while for a more nuanced worldview.
>However, is it more likely that "mainstream society has an irrational hatred for ABDLs" or is it simply that "people have turn-ons and turn-offs"?
The former, absolutely the former. Negative reactions to diapers are learned what with them being a manmade object, whereas humans have an innate biological aversion to excretion. Yet, people are more likely to react harshly to clean diapers than to urine. Thus, they have irrational hatred. (Incidentally, before you try to excuse it with "associations" or whatever: That is nothing but another word for prejudice. You would only be further proving my point.)
>Do I think (...) No.
Congratulations. People don't extend that courtesy towards us, and that's precisely where the issue lies. You gain nothing from downplaying it, and you are a self-defeating idiot for doing so.
>Do I think those people should be discrete in enjoying their fetish, and try to avoid exposing that fetish to others who do not share it? Very, very yes.
Funny how we agree there, no matter how much you try to paint a strawman.
>If I was dating someone who told me they liked collecting vomit, I wouldn't be bigoted nor would they be oppressed if I had doubts about our compatibility. If they hid their fetish from me until years later when they wanted to indulge openly and have a vomit collection on the bedroom shelf, I would probably look to end the relationship, even though I still care about them and wish them well because my strong turn off can't give them the validation that they obviously need.
A better comparison would be if they liked to wear panties at times and had some lying around. If that's cause enough to turn you into a screeching harpy and make you want to break up with them, then yes, you probably are a bigot. It's not a big deal, and a decent person would just shrug and let their partner enjoy things.
>I hope you can also accept that you can't change other people's turn offs.
Being turned off by diapers is learned behavior. Many ABDLs went from not being into them at all to loving them later on. In other words, yes, we absolutely can make people more open-minded by fighting back against the anti-diaper hate propaganda that society forces on people far more than we ever force our likes on them.
>Ironically, I'd say that the people who most seem to think that prejudice is 'irrational' and should be 'fought against' are black people, i.e. "we want to drink from the same fountains". So yeah, don't be like those shitheads by equating people being turned off by ABDL as some kind of oppression.
Two can play at false equivalences. That is how you sound, though, just so you know. Kind of a sign your side isn't looking very good.
>By the way, hateful friends pressuring someone to leave their partner has nothing to do with ABDL
It's got everything to do with it. Society reinforces hateful attitudes and pushes people who would otherwise be accepting into going along with their hatred, hence why society's attitude as a whole needs to be fought against.
>>18035
>you wont hear back from them
Bet you would've liked that, huh? Too bad.
>they actually believe to their core a fetish is a "lifestyle"
And there you go again, trying to force a strawman because you can't handle the facts. It's not working.
>people who have achieved a level they feel comfortable with and do not wish to change so much the status quo because they have grown enough to be happy and people just coming into the world with many earned rights but will seek to gain more and more because that is the human condition, striving for more.
I'm comfortable personally, but looking out for others and wanting society to improve for ABDLs is something any non-sociopath ABDL would want. It's a matter of having empathy.