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Meta thread Anonymous Board volunteer 04/18/2025 (Fri) 02:16:30 Id: 4b0f48 No. 6894
Keep all drama and board discussion ITT, please. My apologies for the silence, things has been very busy since the migration, I hope you guys are having a fun time here. As a little bit of context, this board started as an archive for /v/ AI threads (mainly Stable Diffusion) those threads are still in the catalog, so feel free to check them. But now we want to turn it into a proper community dedicated to Ai discussion.
Some important things >We need rules, anything specific besides the basic? >ID, yay or nay? I think IDs trend to be a very divisive subject among anons, I personally think they are fine, specially for helping them to self moderate, but I want to hear your thoughts. >The soul Calibur Tournament Here on 8moe we have a dedicated board named >>/icup/ where we organize tournaments like FIFA with our modded mascots and watch them compete live. This time we are organizing a Soul Calibur tournament, for that we need a mascot that represents the board, so I listen to your suggestions.
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/aicg/ refugee here, thanks for having us. >IDs I think there are tradeoffs but they're better to have than not, at least until things settle. They force people to behave themselves, and evading them makes bad actors painfully obvious. Could always remove them later. >Mascot Dorothy Haze, hands down. Though Jenny would also be a good choice since she has cultural significance on /aicg/, too.
also what this guy said >>6902 >rules just use the global ones, I can't think of anything outside of those you would need to enforce
>>6896 if you intend to continue hosting /aicg/ here, then IDs are an absolute must. we're a thread plagued by samefagging schizos due to /g/'s total lack of moderation, and while IDs don't make it impossible for them to perform their antics, they do add another layer of resistance. i understand that they can be divisive, but the people driven away by having IDs here are, for the most part, the kinds of people you don't want to have around in the first place. having them is better for us, and better for you or any other unfortunate soul who has to moderate the thread.
>>6902 >Dorothy Haze, hands down. Though Jenny would also be a good choice The Soul Calibur organizer accepts one or two chracters >>6877 so both can be nominated. >>6903 >just use the global ones Sure, I'm keeping global rules only. >>6906 Yay Ids then. Also if anyone is interested in making banners they are 1MB in size maximum and 300x100. A custom CSS can be added too.
Does this board have IDs? Some posts do and some don't. I'm thinking of making a /trash/sdg/ bunker thread since the sharty is spamming loli on /trash/sdg/ (along with spamming real CP on /b/.)
>>6912 >Does this board have IDs? Some posts do and some don't. IDs aren't retroactive, so all the posts that had been made before turning on IDs won't have them. >he sharty is spamming loli on /trash/sdg/ (along with spamming real CP on /b/.) Please report it globally and global vols will look into it. The site is very resilient against spam, so don't worry. You can make a thread regardless.
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I got my answer!
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>>6913 TY janny-sama. I did not expect such a fast response. More smut for you sirs.
>>6896 >ID, yay or nay? Both, both would be good. IDs are good for serious discussion but kill funposting. No IDs are great for funposting and board culture, but make it harder to have serious discussion. I think ideally there would be two AI boards, one casual and one more serious. Like the /g/aicg/ and /vg/aicg/ split. I posted in both. But this only works if there's the population. So until then, probably better to have IDs on since funposters have plenty of offsite threadsplits they can use, whereas moe is well positioned for serious discussion unless a mass of people all of a sudden start posting on lain.
>>6896 >We need rules, anything specific besides the basic? Apart from the global rules, what did you have in mind? >ID, yay or nay? IDs are fine. 4chan AI threads were pretty notorious for being cancer as any sane person would testify. >we need a mascot Jenny like the other anon said. Also (sorry for the newfagging) do you know when threads reach bumplimit or whatever the equivalent here is?
>>6896 IDs are fine and I support them. I think some anons who came from 4chan, mainly aicg ones, don't want IDs because they like doing the same repetitive, braindead posting they did back in 4chan. The "botmaker for X feel?" or "I did X, lads" or whatever else retarded crap. IDs help identify the fags who do that. Plus, ID doesn't encourage avatarfagging, unlike what some believe. Avatarfagging needs a proper name that the avatarfag in question influences. An avatarfag wants to be identified based on, for example, the constant posting of a specific character, like let's say Peachfag. What aspiring avatarfag would want to be identified as "21fg8cfag"? It just doesn't work.
>>6918 > I think ideally there would be two AI boards, one casual and one more serious. Like the /g/aicg/ and /vg/aicg/ split. >probably better to have IDs on since funposters have plenty of offsite That's what I have in mind for /ais/, something more serious and techie compared to other AI related generals on other boards. >>6922 >what did you have in mind? Keep all the board drama here, no avatarfagging/namefagging and some light quality control (no threads that are just one line, for instance) >do you know when threads reach bumplimit or whatever the equivalent here is? Just checked the settings and they are by default, 600 posts in other words. After that the thread gets autosaged and it cannot be bumped further. >>6924 I also think avatarfagging should be discouraged on anon communities, so I'm glad we are on the same frequency here.
>>6924 I'll point out as counterargument why lack of IDs can be legitimately useful: >Allows botmakies to keep their logs and conversations separate from their identities >Makes log posters feel more anonymous, encouraging people to post weirder (and thus more interesting) logs >Reduces fear of asking for help or asking stupid but important questions >Reduces circlejerkery since it's harder to identify thread personalities (and therefore suffer offtopic discussion on said thread personalities) if you don't have IDs to correlate them I still favor IDs, but they're far from an unalloyed good. Case in point: I am now a thread personality.
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>>6918 >>6922 >>6924 >>6929 >>6930 >4 IDs dogpile the thread within 15 minutes when I mention making a general on /ais/ (mentioned on /trash/sdg) >>6913 Hello Janny-sama, welcome to being discord raided by the sharty! This level of butthurt means you should keep ID's on and not even bother reading their paragraphs of "intellectual" cope about allowing raiders.
>>6918 >Like the /g/aicg/ and /vg/aicg/ split >/vg/aicg >/g/aicg >"serious" I guess in a perfect world hahaha
>>6894 A suggestion overall when it comes to moderating, is to keep an eye on aicg here. On 4chan's /g/, that general is notorious for being very "autistic", to say the least, a /v/ colony in /g/ and later /vg/. It has or had very persistant posters who would shit up the general with their obsessive shitposting, as it still happening here, with the same kind of braindead posts. Doing things like baiting others, dramafagging, spitefagging, samefagging, or overall just trying to control the general was common back then. I'm also an aicg anon, but I want the general to be better like it was in 2023, so that's why I am suggesting curbing the worst offenders before it gets worse.
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>>6934 Yeah... >
>>6935 agreeing with this. if you have to be heavy-handed at the outset, that's fine. things got bad quick on /g/ because the jannies just didn't care and left the thread to rot.
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>>6913 The simple fact is IDs tie 1 IP to a series of posts. The small amount of anonymity between posts is not worth allowing people to spam, which you can see happening right now. It increases the number of VPNs they need from 1 to 10+, which means spending money, which is why everyone is arguing against thread IDs right now. >>6939 >>6938 >>6935 >>6934 Hello sharty raiders. This thread had 6 posts all day. Then you coordinate on discord and there are 8 posts within 30 minutes (excluding me). Your raid is obvious. You're making shit up that shouldn't be listened to, raiders.
>>6940 My dear schizo nigger, I'm not sure you're aware, but most of us are coming from the link to this post made on the /aicg/ here.
Having a separate thread for /aicg/ users to ask about or discuss access methods like proxies or such might be nice since we basically have a full AI board now.
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>>6941 Then please provide the link, because I didn't link it. I mentioned the board. Raider faggots :^)
how do you filter a post's message but keep the fuzzy boobies? asking for a friend
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>talk about making /trash/sdg bunker thread on /ais >suddenly tons of people show up to muddy the waters on IDs being bad >>6941 >>6948 That was posted 1 hour and 2 minutes ago, but you guys only show up when I mention this board on /trash/sdg? More Sharty raider lies!
>>6935 >>6939 I noticed most activity right now is coming from that general, it would be cool if anons started branching and made more specific threads. I'll keep an eye on it, but I also expect anons to help us reporting the troublemakers. >>6949 I think you can't do it. Either you filter the whole post or none of it.
>>6952 >I noticed most activity right now is coming from that general Yeah, even back on 4chan I think we were consistently the most active general on /g/. Probably not on /vg/ though.
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>>6940 I was in aicg before you, nigger. You can continue your baseless accusations, doesn't change the fact I am trying to better the general now that we have a chance instead of supporting the faggotry there. Pic related, an old but still good example of the kind of faggotry that could happen there. Sturdy used to raid aicg occasionally back in the day, and BRanon here is/was a prime member.
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>>6952 These are the raiders, janny-sama. They came here because I mentioned this board on /trash/sdg/ then asked you about IDs. ID's make raiding harder. /trash/sdg/ is currently at 831 posts, aka the fastest thread in this site's history, excluding gamergate. >>6953 Complete lie. 4chan's sdg wasn't fast. 2 threads a day, tops. Suddenly it's 4x as fast after it loses half it's users? You are a raider.
We're very sorry for being hyperactive fags who apparently trigger the latent schizophrenia in people.
>>6956 IT KEEPS HAPPENING
>>6949 >fuzzy The most offensive thing about schizo-san is that his gens don't even look properly fuzzy. Most of them have that horrible SD shading that makes them incongruously look like latex inflatables.
>>6958 shitty gens are pretty typical for /sdg/ posters, so it tracks. i guess you can't escape shit taste even here.
>thread explodes in activity over IDs to muddy the water >dies again kek Let's look at the data, that last 2 sdg threads on April 14th, 2025. https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/74564107/#74564107 https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/74553563/#74553563 352+211=563 posts in a day /trash/sdg/ is currently sitting at 836 after 2 days, with the majority of spam happening today. This is after losing at least half the users. b, pol, v, are not half as active as they were on 4chan. https://8chan.moe/trash/res/34.html#q5487 It's obvious you're raiding, especially because you shit your pants when I bring up an /ais/sdg splinter thread due to having IDs.
>>6962 >no boobies filtered
also crosspost properly, you newfag >>>/trash/5487
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Reminder the people spamming philosophical debates are the same ones spamming loli, blacked, and real CP. If you're paid to spam 4chan, and 4chan goes down, then your new duty is spamming altchans. Notice everyone raiding with philosophical debate hasn't posted any OC. Same people who took my workflow on 4ch to spam blacked here.
>workflow Holy shit it's all coming together. >>6930 >Allows botmakies to keep their logs and conversations separate from their identities Honestly, it should be fine as long as IDs aren't kept between threads. I've noticed the ID I have here and on /aicg/ aren't the same, you could tell which botmakers were and weren't on a thread at the time through the anchor anyways. What would be exceptional would be an option to hide the ID. Do it while submitting a bot? Understandable. Do it while making an offhand comment? People are aware of the odds of you just being a threadshitter, and wouldn't be much different from seeing a bunch of new IDs prop up at once.
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>>6930 >>6974 Both these posts are completely meaningless. IDs hurt samefags and spammers. You want to make filtering harder. 4chan had no ID boards so they are easier to spam. Same as them having a 4mb file limit + no sound. They don't want discussion. They want spam. You guys are debating nothing so you can spam.
I'm starting suspect ce6b66 is attempting to prove the opposite of his point; that IDs don't stop people from being obnoxious faggots and derailing threads. Got me hook line and sinker. Janny-sama, now's the time. Do you have the conviction? The conviction to ban?
>>6982 If you click on the (/) you can hide all posts from an ID. If everyone in a thread does this for troublemakers instead of responding to them, it becomes much better in the interim.
>>6929 >600 posts Thanks. Some threads in the catalog are also locked. Is that automatic? I'm just trying to figure out when a new general thread would be made, since it seems like they wouldn't be frequently created. Even checking the fast boards like /vyt/ it seems threads are made way less often given their post count. >Keep all the board drama here, no avatarfagging/namefagging and some light quality control (no threads that are just one line, for instance) That seems fair. Only question about that is how much counts as namefagging? Constantly using the "Name" field is an obvious case, but many anons from /aicg/ share their stuff with others and have profile names they're known by. That's always been standard for /aicg/ as a symptom of sharing bots. So if someone posts a link to something they've made, and it has their profile name in the link, how far would that count?
>>6988 You also end up with people "avatarfagging" by having specific bots they use often, or specific themes they use, or even just the same user persona and not cycling it out for every screenshot. Same as having a specific artist mix or prompt one uses often because they enjoy that type of image. It's sort of an issue of the nature of sharing content, you're going to be identifiable if you want to do anything beyond briefly summarize what you're looking at... which is boring.
>>6992 Yeah, stuff like that is what I'm thinking of. Some people interpret it more strictly and I'm wondering what the case is when there are profile names involved, especially since it's compounded with IDs like >>6930 mentioned.
>>6982 This >>6984 I'm going to moderate this board, but 9/10 I'm expecting anons to just don't feed the troll. Report, hide and move on. >>6988 >>6992 I you are sharing something to the board I think it's fine, but if you are using an identifier just for the sake of it then I could be a little more strict. I'll try to be as flexible as possible with the ruling.
>>6992 You do have a point regarding botmaking, though I would argue that those are just people wanting to contribute to the hobby and end up being known for that, different from avatarfags who are attentionwhores and do nothing but make anything better and just want to be annoying and feed their ego Case in point: the koishifag in /vg/'s aicg general would constantly post with koishi from Touhou, and even try forcing threads with her in the OP.
>>7005 Koishifag was a different guy from the guy who'd try forcing her in the OP, he tried it with other random common bots too to be annoying and discourage people from posting about them, just that only one really stuck as the actual troll's avatar.
>>7006 I see. Thanks for correcting me. Sometimes it's hard keeping track of all the "special people" of aicg.
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>>6997 TY janny-sama. Avatarfagging is different from IDs. Spam will be easier for users to detect instead of debate. More reports, less arguing. >>7005 >botmaking Why would you allow bots?
>>7022 Ah, that's just a term used in aicg meaning chatbots. You know, for roleplaying with text-based AI, which is the whole point of aicg. Botmaking is creating specific cards containing metadata and a pic, of an OC character or already existing one, that you wrote, for roleplaying.
/aicg/-Anon here. I personally hate IDs. Yes, there was a lot of SPAM in the 4chan threads, but I think this could be effectively mitigated with some moderation, and it was quite obvious who did what anyway in many cases. I'd call myself a good poster, I put a lot of love into the general in over two years, but I really dislike having 'a face' and having different strings of interaction tied to each other. That's why I post on image boards and not on reddit or discord; on chans, typically, I am not forced to be someone and maintain an image, even if it's just thread karma in this case.
>>7050 BO here. I neglected to use IDs because this was mainly an archival board not too long ago. Generally most boards keep IDs on to prevent IP-hopping faggots from manufacturing ideas, since at the very least we can point out suspicious (1) and done posts. I agree that ID can put a damper on the whole anonymous faces part of posting on imageboards, but seeing as they only stick with you for a single thread I think it's a good compromise for moderators and posters. There's also the issues of the site not having a proper "follow" option to see what you or another poster has said unless IDs are enabled.
>>6934 /g/aicg did become the place for serious discussion while /vg/aicg was the shitposting garbage dump before the site went down. >>6894 I hope avatarfags like >>6523 >>6360 and their fanclubs are dealt swiftly and are not allowed to fester.
Just a heads up to BO, the 4chan AI thread schizo has already arrived. Currently he's: b826df a31e2c 5e4243 Sometimes rotates IPs to dodge IDs, sometimes he's lazy. You can pretty quickly ID him from the long, rambly blogposts arguing in bad faith about thread culture (which no longer matters because 4ch is fucking dead lmao). He also loves to latch on to specific posters with an external identity and try to defame them until he gets bored and moves to the next one.
Wasn't gonna acknowledge him coming back because he does it for attention, but might be worth disabling TOR posting if possible to keep said poster mildly at bay when he's having a meltie.
>avatarfags and their fanclubs This touched a nerve, didn't it? Avatarfags don't belong in an anonymous imageboard.
>>7172 People would likely take you way more seriously if you did anything but sperg out over who's who and weren't just here to derail.
>>7175 I don't know in what way your crying is supposed to convince anyone that avatarfagging should be allowed. It doesn't belong in 4chan and neither here.
>>7176 you're bald
>dude just wanted to archive /v/ threads and now you're going to make him mod /aicg/, get into ethical arguments and learn to recognize each individual thread schizo on sight Evil.
>>7055 TY BO. The small compromise in per-thread anonymity is completely worth making it harder for the spammers (that obviously just showed up.) Plus people can still change their IP if they really really care for some reason. >>7170 What the fuck are you talking about. You guys raided the meta thread because you don't want IDs. I mentioned a splinter thread on /trash/, asked BO if IDs are enabled, and now you guys are dogpiling the thread with irrelevant discussion and lies. I hope the BO can see how obvious your sharty raid is. Thread went from 10 posts to 60 in a day and it's all useless debate and lying about me.
>>7208 That's literally you raider faggot starting shit. I mentioned this board once and YOU RAIDERS are the one stirring up shit. I can't wait until feds throw you sharty niggers in jail RICO style for hacking 4chan.
>>7217 >You guys raided the meta thread because you don't want IDs. Sorry, what? I wanted IDs. I'm glad we have them. I also have nothing to do with other altchans.
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>>6955 I don't know why you're doing this but you're lying and a faggot /sdg/ was going really fast nearly 3 threads a day https://desuarchive.org/trash/search/subject/%2Fsdg%2F%20-%20Stable%20Diffusion%20General/ >04/13 3 threads >04/12 3 threads >04/11 2 threads >04/09 4 threads /sdg/ is very active and so are the anons, and many of the anons who post there are either indifferent or like cunny they just never posted it because they would get jannie'd Do not listen to this anon, he doesn't represent /sdg/ and has been an active shitposter in it for months, he simply hates us and I don't know why
>>6997 As long as you're watching and willing to swing the hammer when a schizo gets a bunch of reports dumped on him, we can't ask for more.
>>7267 What did I lie about? Can you explain why 8/trash/sdg moves as fast 4/trash/sdg? Why isn't 8/pol/ or 8/v/ moving as fast as 4chan? You're raiding! >>7268 >1pbid shartytranny raider begging mods to let them abuse reports when someone calls them out as raiding Sorry for shitting up your /meta/ thread BO. I offhandedly mentioned possibly making a /sdg/ on /ais/ and they came here to spam useless debate about IDs, beg you to let them abuse reports, and blame me for their spam. (((reaching maximum judaism levels)))
How do you hide 1pbtid posts? Asking for a friend...
>>6894 So the textgen schizo is already sharting all over the place (sorry we never managed to housebreak him). If you guys don't want to make it easy and kick us out I'm willing to throw myself to the meat grinder and volunteer. Let me know who to contact or whatever.
board owner, can you enable [code] tags?
ids are great, but I've already found myself tongue tied since I already have a shitposting history in the thread and am afraid I'm not going to be taken seriously now, or vice versa. have to refrain quite a bit and no doubt everyone else is too. and not to mention, the same people still have schizoid freakouts like you can see itt and others.
>>8259 > since I already have a shitposting history in the thread and am afraid I'm not going to be taken seriously now, or vice versa There's an easy solution and an obvious part you should cut out here. Baka.
>>8259 >have to refrain quite a bit and no doubt everyone else is too. I... fail to see the issue here? Like in what fucking world is feeling obliged to shitpost LESS a bad thing?
>>6894 looks like the cancer has fully metastasized in /aicg/ once again, despite my hope that the new site would curtail it. we're back to 80% of the thread treating it like /b/ and the other 20% treating it like /soc/. i understand that you're not able to sit in and moderate the thread 24/7, but seeing as that's what's required to combat the rampant shitposting, off-topic spam, and namefag circlejerking, i have to recommend you kick it off the board. if you want a serious community, you can't have /aicg/ around.
>>8362 Shitposting is funposting. Nothing made me smile like the makie posts back in the day. Sure, there can be too much of it, but completely removing it is just as bad.
>>8419 >nothing made me smile like [/b/-tier threadshitting garbage] you're part of the problem
>>8410 >>8410 >you should either moderate the thread seriously up to my standards or force people out Bro is already pulling out the false dichotomy smh.
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>>8454 >you're part of the problem (1)-san, you don't know me. I contributed tons of OC.
>>8456 yes. there's no reason a shitpost off-topic circlejerk thread should be allowed here just because it wears the skin of an AI thread. /v/ has /vb/ for that kind of posting, the same principle applies. if mod-kun isn't able or willing to put in the effort to enforce actual on-topic posting, which is perfectly understandable given the level of autism /aicg/ is on, he should just remove the thread entirely and wash his hands of the problem.
>>8410 >if you want a serious community, you can't have /aicg/ around. Truly feels like 2024 all over again. Soon we'll be "Don't bake a new one" posting.
I know it's early in the board's life, but can we eventually get some sort of techy CSS? Might post my own later.
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>>8564 Sorry I misread his post, didn't have my coffee yet. 0043ff is right about IDs. /aicg/ is on topic for AI though.
did we killed the BO
>>8342 you completely ignored half of my post
>>8410 It's mostly the same schizos from back home. With the exception of those very few, most aicg anons want to actually talk about bots. Maybe if someone volunteers, then they could remove the worst parts and make aicg better.


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