>>501931 was hoping there would be more seething boomers in the comments of that sharticle

We Won

>>501935 Yuka is a qt

>>501936 Check THIS out! Silly hillbilly Vance btfo! Fr fr https://xcancel.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1896226141587009611

>>501938 I thought Vance was a commie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzh8CKZC8tc Smh what did Starmer offer him.

>>501936 JD Vance is just there to insult world leaders and create lulz tbh.

Came third in the pub quiz. Very much wouldn't you know who won the pony.

>>501940 A quicke behind the shed, I think that's empty talk tbh, I don't see a trade deal happen. >>501941 I thought he was being groomed as future president? That's why shills are pushing to reform his image, at least that was what my belief was.

>>501942 Pub quizzes can fun but they run too late where I am. They start at 8 or 9pm and run to 10-11ish. Fuck that.

>>501945 I've never used Twitter, is it normal that people read replies with 8 likes? If so it must lead to a lot of famous nonces seething 24/7

Geezer https://xcancel.com/EssexPR/status/1896260128678224253

>>501946 Funny that a fat cunt politician would tbh

>>501948 Yeah, that's what I meant it's hilarious how you can call an MP a cunt on twitter and they will seething read it.

>boots on the ground Twat Also sick of that Blairite/Bush ‘coalition of the willing’ phrase and ‘let me be clear’ Utter wank tbh

>>501949 Yeah tbh you’d hope they’d be busy doing their job not sitting scrolling through their socials on the bog

>sister called and said I can't join the military Sweet, but I had a kek at that, the media really has normongs panicked.

>>501943 >Whatever they pay him, he earned today. He was working hard at lunch, and I am very receptive to it.

>>501953 People always say x and y are interested in a trade deal, they just have to brush over a few points. Then ten years later they are still debating over them. I will believe it when I see some big work undertaken to get it in writing.

Bautista bros wtf!?

europe getting mogged hard rn this is like qing china levels. hope you lads can have a warlord period. I hope there is a fenland warlord of the wessoid clique

>>501956 Watching this brinksmanship played out by fucking Europ poofs and Starmerfaggot plus the women is cringe and nausea inducing tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhFUq6S-GG0 evropas future is in ethnat, all these boomer politicans need to fuck off thinking that they can have some fake and gay american NGO satrapy where they live in palaces making billions off race replacement but expecting poorfag amersharts to back it all up with shart tax money. doubt the krauts will be able to look down on americans goods and produce soon when they have to deregulate industry

40 years before Badenoch at ARC, there was Macmillan at the Carlton Club, warning of "Civilisation under Threat" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQp2FkpsdkA

>>501956 >have a warlord period Would be so kino

even though american products are actual shite and some european socialist ideas are okay

best was how VW was trying to mog cummins about emissions but the krauts were faking their emissions

Glitch in her buttmatrix more like Reckon she was just holding her double quesadilla burrito slop mexishart in tbh What do you reckon steinhog?

>>501963 Yep holding in a super shart

>yes Yurop is a wealthy monolith of 500 million Fucking retarded Polish nigger These cunts need their teeth polishing with a cricket bat covered in barbed wire

>>501965 >It's the military industrial complex Such a fucking bluepilled surface level take, it's about expanding America's empire and spreading their degenerate nigger worship.

>>501967 private interests do factor in there is such a thing as converging interests.

When did Hitchens take on the justed beard?

>>501968 I personally believe they are very much an after thought, I don't think they are the main drivers behind it.

>>501962 i will emigrate to america if trump makes it possible to buy a diesel pickup truck with no egr dpf or def

Terrified of being drafted and thrown into the meat grinder tbh.

>>501973 Never gonna happen lad

They are literally insane seethers

>>501973 Two weeks mate, make sure you tell your family goodbye.

hope jeets continue with their arrogant mask off shit

>>501977 >2nd picture I thought that was the war of Spanish succession and was going to autism at you for it blaming the Habsburgs when it was the French

>>501980 Still a poor comparisopn when you consider what NATO was acutally formed for.

>>501979 Keeeeeeeeeeeek

Steiner you need to reign your missus in

>>501981 I don't know anything about the Italian Wars so I couldn't say tbqh

wtf is a penis sling lads?

Keeeeek

>>501986 b*ns bros...

>>501988 Keeeeeeeeeek Looks like we got it right again and b*ns got btfo. Again

>jumped a fence earlier and fucked my already broken collarbone just when it was healing I hate being such an impulsive retard

>>501984 It's as simple as asking what NATO was established for.

>>501967 blackrock is the jews lad.

>>501972 yeah I think you can just buy an old IWI ford and it should be completely old school

No sneethe Sunday is over. It is more sneethe Monday. Millions Thousands Hundreds A few dozen must sneethe.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W2hKfE5U-T0 I hope trump rolls coal on ursala and kier

jewdeau wants to send leafs to kikeraine. smh that might actually help because leafs are actually twisted poopoo frogs in war

>>501997 trump needs rare earths for vape production

>>501998 keeeeeeeeek

Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4i9VzBBy7k

>>502000 no refunds kemosabe

>>502000 Potawatami are local injuns. Tax free petrol Tax free bingo Tax free smokes, But maybe they steal the jackpot at the casino

>>502001 Kek

business idea: 6/10 gf

>>502004 Nonverbal?

lads?

/brit/ life this is basic chudanomics

i've had the displayport connected to the motherboard instead of the gpu this entire time

the blockhead faggot is really doing it lads >british "army" of the dniepr >5k retards being sent out to get drone strike false flagged to pull us into war

Cope and seethe https://xcancel.com/LBC/status/1896179243077288155

>>502009 Why would we want to go to war with America AND Russia?

>>502009 Bet Elwood was raped by Russian boarders at his public school https://xcancel.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1896146070939500728

>>502011 >iran and usa on same side well that's comlete rubbish, thanks for re-posting such a worthless webp lad, good job

>>502013 The latest plebbit slop is quite amusing. Are you not amused?

German thot about to ‘ream’ Europeans bank accounts https://xcancel.com/vonderleyen/status/1896260421734355267

Never going in her corner shop again

"OMG the Oscars, this is why Putin is winning so hard, the West is over, where is the asteroid, hahahaha" "OMG the King, allowing a foreign to speak to him wearing a sweatshirt, this country has cucked itself, it's over, where is that asteroid"

>>502016 the state of this country and the whole west rn

coalition of the willing doesn't have the same ring to it like the holy alliance or concert of europe. also makes it sound temporary when their goals are anything but.

Can’t even be original

gooner faggots

>cuts national defence budget >gives £2.6 billion to Ukraine https://xcancel.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1896288223086743755

Sensible centrist accounts seen retweeting these lads

>>502025 keeeke that pic

>>502029 It’s quite something

>>502032 That picture cracks me up tbh

>>502033 keeek. bums got all salty when I posted it.

>I should've probably worded that differently. keeek

Stupid gay spy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WX6YL9JnLw

>>502034 Grimes got binned as well

this one goes out to bushposter and the other fellow clownworld inhabitants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPGwInedjqs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QewqwJPDb0 Kek

>LBC bins is back and hasn't learnt a thing in other news in 40 to 12 an acceptable time to start day drinking lads?

>>502017 Wait until he finds out we've had sandniggers meet the king wearing towels, seems an utterly retarded point to complain about a trackie at this point.

>>502041 really kang chazza the turd ought to show solidarity with his yookay subjects by wearing roadman's fit

>>502039 The posh left wing talk show where you are not allowed to talk just ridiculed that vets everyone so they can construct their narrative and defeat him with facts and logic

>>502041 >Tonight Matthew I will dress up as a stick of rancid butter

>>502042 Hope Trump brings the boots points a Trident at his head and makes him dance a jig for him while wearing them

>>502046 >unsubstantiated threats are now terrorism in shartland too dafties are the most oppressed people in the world smh

>>502047 Tbh they make these business endeavours sound harmless but these technologies are then forced upon you and for the large part negatively impact your life without you even having agreed to it. No wonder daftyism is on the increase

>>502045 I hate how Americans worship niggers

>>502049 Tbh

>>502050 >MPs having a gay slapfight in public, using infantile language execute them both and the rest of the government while we're at it

>>502052 T’PAU! What a couple of zingers from Carol mates! Niiiiiice! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4sV3lqzKqQ

>>502052 Good idea

We NEED a military coup tbh

>>502055 unfortunately the only people who might actually DO SOMETHING positive are the deano squaddies who might just manage a slightly more concerning riot than the southport protests officer class is pretty much all email sender scum and the old vets who are still in the pipeline are checked out and just want to collect they paycheck and do larp intel work (a different variety of emailsending)

the structure is so rusty and checked out that the civvie sector stuff I handled was printed on the back of what looked like reports on iran's military or something, marked classified (low level but still). I think they were prioritising office politics green agenda shit and reusing as much paper as they could rather than recycling it first kekwew

>>502056 Read a few rumblings from vets online recently but you need a critical mass and leadership anyone approaching that level of organisational competence is bought off in one way or another and there are still some with wobbly ring pieces tbh

>>502055 No, our higher command military is exactly the same sorts as our politicians

>>502059 Yeah they’re all Common Purpose trained

The thread seethegrinding as usual I see.

>>502043 >don't be like Gary Tbh British made goods and services don't do business with pakis simple as.

22st is dead

new islamification just dropped

>demoralisation porn i'm stepping over it

looks like Michael Jackson

just went looking for the trve version of don't care about us on YT there is one huemonkey upload that has the correct lyircs in the description but the video has really loud obnoxious sfx censoring "jew" and "kike" keeeek god i Hate them

maaaaaan the gooks get a dictator that rides horses with jewelry through the snowy woods. what do we get? nothing good

awesome horses, they're glowing white, Gandalf-steed worthy. you'd think they'd have a horn

>>502070 kino and cultured and shows true diplomacy meanwhile sharts get jew's used laundry

>>502070 Kino, I miss stately gifts.

>>502023 the main drawback of femoids is their narcissism. it ruins everything about them. also women can smell awful

>>502011 nah amerishart will just be isolationfags again then sell everyone stuff to have another 1000 years of cowboyWCWelvisreich

>>502075 >also women can smell awful expand upon this. you mean the vagina after you coom in it, since that disturbs the ph and causes fishy smell? or do they actually get stinky pits from bacteria feces?

>>502077 you will be, you will be

>>502079 OBSESSED

>>502079 >to have huge balls is, in western culture, to mean "brave", "courageous", "daredevil" and other positive associations >similarly in the east it means affluence and good luck >intrinsically it signifies virility wdtmbt? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwJ6OVSwkM

>>502075 >also women can smell awful troons are not women

https://youtu.be/hhgRpab7Jxc Hate this xoomer retard coping that Britain isn't a tryanny already.

>>502084 goodlad tbh >>502086 well don't give him attention this

>>502084 I thought he died when Emmett knocked him out when he was spazzing out on the floor having a fit.

>>502084 keeeeeeeeeeeeeek

mannarinobros just six months until the collapse

>>502090 finally

>>502090 hopefully he can get the necromancers amulet before the dragonbreak occurs

>>502093 any 'causted?

Great. I'm going to get banned

>>502094 just kike things lad, there was some JIDF fag on this board a while back trying to larp like they are going to conquer the middle east. but you can see they are a race of purse clutching cowards he didn't even do an autistic american police style mag dump just some sweaty autistic kike murder shite

>>502096 more jews larping. lets see them do it. no doubt once the tunnel fighting starts they will need another ceasefire then beg for america or the europeans to "mediate" so they can trick the arabs into a position that is weaker. just another group of scammers engaged in pointless brinksmanship

>>502099 Not even brave enough to claim it’s their idea and try to paint it all as Drumpfs

Drumpf should accidentally on purpose give the Rooskies the dwarfs coordinates and just look the other way as the needful is done then deliver a Zelensky body part encased in a Trump trainer to each western leader that supported him tbh tbh tbh

>>502100 KEEEK some good stuff here >Druze (aka the ones the jews are trying to make their next puppet/ablative border group >born and probably radicalised in germany (good to see mudsharts going to israel to do terror instead of in are nations)

>Death to America He unironically means this and they all clap

>>502103 Loads of Druze serve in their army. Gonna be a confusing time for them now

Joel Woesmaxxing

US demanding a public televised apology from Zelensky Keeeeeeeeeeeeek

>>502106 history repeating itself smh remember wews lost his shitter acc too (and seethed about it for literally years)

Starmer has gone mad. A shame Starmer is trying to secure a Foreign countries borders we have nothing to do with while ignoring his own nations borders against illegal invaders. Starmer is only Interested in a globio agenda while attacking bongs and wants to lull bongs into the meat grinder. Not in my bong name, Starmy. https://archive.ph/dpXL2

>>502106 he should rebrand himself as zoomerwoes

>>502109 nah, that's some elaborate combover. just skulletmaxx.

>>502104 looks like some fake AI shite

“For the last time, Mr. Wonka, I did not try any experimental gum, and frankly I find this entire line of questioning insulting.”

Lass saw I’d searched on YouTube for ‘Chocolate Starfish…’. At this point lying and pretending I was looking for pornography would be less embarrassing than admitting to listening to Limp Bizkit

I retract that (you) in consequence of your unprompted goonposting

What did you think being RW meant? Being gay???

>bossman spanking a fellow wagie in the work messenger group smh wagie life is so degrading

Talking about work I do enjoy working in software, creating shit and solving mental puzzles while it being a chilled environment.

>>502116 Yeah. Probably spig not understanding it's satire too.

>>502122 >What did you think being RW meant? Being gay???

>>502128 >what spending years on brit does to a man

>>502129 Tbh

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK Trying to scam POTUS job >ThEy CaMe HeRe LeGaLly! t. Anchorjeet

Dare I say zased?

nah, that's witchcraft bro

I vomit

>>502132 berry based. his mannerisms and accent crease me up tho. more importantly, I hope when he says things like this it sticks with young White lads that are probably a big chunk of his audience.

the people spamming these are definitely the same ones that did putinmonke

>>502136 good work, but is this lad planning on fully de-evolving into a boulder, getting rounder by the week.

>>502138 retvrn

>>502138 Maybe he’s getting in shape to yeet boulders at the invaders

>>502132 >>502135 Tbh hope my deano cousin who's a Tate fan sees this.

Celebrating Ramadan still, lads.

Germany today lads 2 dead 25 injured Some say 24 year old Afghan and some say 40 year old German with right wing sympathies what do you reckon? https://xcancel.com/DVanLangenhove/status/1896555119006953811

>didn't defrost any meat for dinner What do lads?

>>502145 either way it doesn't matter NATO is dead so all the shitskins in germany coping with gotcha shite are like a couple elections away from AFDchuds

>>502144 wew cupless bra, peng

>>502147 Unless the next president reverse Trumps policies which is a worry.

*squints at you* Its 2015, fuck you

>>502140 *Squint's back* That's an Israeli flag.

Colonel Cope.

>>502154 Fucking norwood reaper took him to town.

balding is a sign of testosterone yet in our society it is seen as shameful but men are expected to appear "macho" yet look like a twink

>>502156 Great but he still should have rebranded as the owl.

Time is a bit mean tbh

wcwboomers are the boomers I would die for, the boomer race is redeemed by rick flair, hogan, sting, steiner and the iron shiek

>>502156 been over this dozens of times on here, balding is a sign of high DHT which results from low testosterone

>>502159 That's shirt list of boomers worth dying for.

>>502161 trumps not worth dying for he is a boomerslave who exists to serve american white nationalist piglets who will be comfy and neet in trailer parks like matt heimbach and have low self esteem walmart store clerk gfs with big bums

>>502156 balding is preventable by taking Finasteride. it doesn't have any side effects for >95% of men. you need to be tall with a very masculine skull to pull off baldness, and most can't

is this true??

>>502165 Ive seen no proofs

>>502165 probably fake rightoid shit. a deluded world where no source is ever needed. are pajeets now even larping as 'yorkshire lasses' now to engagement farm? smh.

I didnt know Matt Goodwin worked for Hope Not Hate

>>502168 who doesn't these days

>>502169 Not me

>>502171 >Bell Beaker on the Left >Bell Licker on the Right

I was thinking bell end culture

>>502172 just what several thousand years of servitude does to a man.

>>502173 Whiter than your running boar.

>>502175 we wuz redlegs and shit bro

>>502176 All that homesteading just for some indian pus.

Come on steiner, don't take it personally, we all know yanks can't banter worth a damn.

bored

bored and

>your brain on boomer He did the same over Covid

>>502181 oh my days what a fucking boomer

>>502181 couldn't even bring myself to finish reading the first image smh yikes

>>502156 Sorry for you hairloss steiner

>>502181 keeeeeek

>>502182 >>502183 He just went full MSM. Paranoid at being called the men who said no to Hitler him and his stuck in WW2 boomer mode will actually back the poof in Number 10 tabsolutely laughable Would personally put this fat nonce hack on the contact lines in Ukraine and televise his extermination by drone and let him narrate it stupid hairlet mong

Is it clickbait? Can’t tell anymore tbh but I doubt it in some cases. Bitch did the same over Covid calling every unjabbed a mong Even the Ukrainians are grovelling to Drumpf now

>>502187 she's always been a total mess when Trump "lost" the previous (rigged) election, she was gleefull, saying that his wife would divorce him now (because of some feminist crap she had running in her head over pussygate I think) of course, that didn't happen, but Brewer didn't acknowledge the mistake or retract the statement - yet now she's all in for Trump fem brained nonsense

>>502188 Social media has been great at showing everyone who is establishment

>>502190 she's definitely establishment and part of the general out-of-touch mainstream media sphere

>literally first thing bins does on coming back is avatarfag then post faggotry ban him again

>Farage nodding along dutifully and towing the elite's party line when they rattle down their dogmatic axioms. Farage just acts as controlled opposition would. As for the rest cheering along at the idea of murdering the remaining flower of British youth shows just how much they just consider them to be interchangeable economic units. That place needs fumigating tbh in fact whole of central London needs it >protect indefensible Ukraine borders >don’t protect defensible British borders

imagine the scale of the evil hidden from us

ooooh yeaaahhhhh! This means we can get free sheeeeeeeeit, welfare reeeparations evryting

>forcibly resigned tired of the "punishments" given to traitors tbh they should be tortured and executed at the very least

>>502196 They should be catapulted into a skyscraper

> delve into the article and it says they had darker skin and eyes. >Basically like ancient native britons and the Welsh / Irish darker colouring. But of course they go with the headline “black.” Beatings. Many many beatings

How do we get all the bureaucrats and politicians into uniform and deployed to a war zone? Is there an app for that yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOZDKlpybZE

YO FELLOW NIGGAS! Do some poosts!

>>502198 evil clone of meatybraps

>>502201 this one's pretty funny tbh

>>502195 They were Early European Farmers, not niggers

>>502201 Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek These are fucking great ngl

Yo steiner witness the cuckoldry! It’s immense!

>We are renaming them to the original names but not the after the original kkkonfederate slave owners! Keeeeeeeeeeek the utter wokery jokery

>>502208 can't risk offending the sacred cows smh

Trust the Q

keeeeeeeeeeeek >tory part of the uniparty ufukinwotm8lololol.jpg

Imagine not being able to fire an employee for four years for gross stupidity instead you have to wait

>>502213 smh he only wanted to give full sappoort to israel saar and fight in their army

KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK! Now THIS is peak America! >troon gets into row with sheboon after getting called sir

They’re going mad with ‘Trump is a Russian spy!’ shit right now keeeeek Hope he bombs Paris in a fit of rage

Predateur Drumpf! Keeeeeek

>>502217 it didn't work in 2016 and it won't now all performative to justify their bloodlust smh

>hostage >kidnapped from a tank 1-800-COMETHEFUCKONNOWISREAL.jpg

>>502220 the victimmaxxing never ends

>>502222 oy vey that's BLOOD LIBEL to suggest we are satanists!

angry scrotehead godders states the obvious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDlZx2wB_KA

You think Farage will stick around after coming second next GE? He's getting pretty old to be the leader.

>>502225 he'll keep going until the grift and the nudge unit paycheck dries up

hope there is another govt collapse and shartlection again soon smh

>>502226 I'm worried it won't, not for a long while, Conservatives are fleeing to Reform. I think Reform will become Conservatives 2.0, in the fact that that they will become the mainstream right wing party. Which means the grift can last a good decade or two or if we are in worst timeline then for a lot longer.

fresh moggers posing a question with an obvious answer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irSaR9le9KE

>>502228 "great" shitstain is highly unlikely to have any kind of based upheaval due to the way our population and culture has evolved over the past few centuries smh it's more likely imo that the continentals will get somewhere first and our lot will do some more zog shit, maybe a war, to try and stop it (perhaps that's what the ukraine/russia poo is about) at the moment they think they can ride out zognald's term and then go back to being comfy fraudster slavemasters in the zog empire

think moggers and some other britnats did some videos along those lines, "britain, the north korea of the nwo" or something

>>502230 I think our people are ready for a true based party, BNP level based not AFD, but the media is framing Farage as the new right which will fix immigration which is sucking up all the oxygen.

I think if Farage said Britain for the British people, and he wanted to engage in repatriation of legal non-white immigrants he wouldn't lose more the 7% of the current nation vote putting him on 18%. I know he isn't our guy, but I'm just saying if he was.

>>502232 homeland is it I guess difficult to trust kenny though after all the years of poo

negotiating table mentioned, another victory for civicchads also the animal entrails confirm con 2.0 also keek and ACK and kill em all >22 democrat Senators were just caught using the same script and clips word-for-word. https://xcancel.com/InsiderWire/status/1896965208830308778#m >>502235 a norfern rising....

Back from the latest self-imposed exile lids, who knows for how long. Spotted this belter in town this afternoon and couldn't resist poosting it.

White Ranger, you are the newest member of the Ranger team. You will show the yellow Ranger how to drive, teach the red Ranger to stay sober, and help the black Ranger return his shopping cart.

Lying cunts. He didn’t do this and never have Americans well maybe a couple of hundred years ago

>>502239 zased and zooted >>502241 I think he just dared suggest that maybe our military is not in fact an elite skirmishing force able to be rapidly deployed from an elite navy but rather an underfunded underequipped top heavy organisation with a primary purpose of emailsending and assisting on gayto troon aids ops with a logistics chain that would see us run out of ammunition in less than a week of high intensity fighting and a size so insignificant attrition rates alone would wipe it out within a similar timeframe

>>502243 Tbh. Also media need shutting down tbh or at least prevented from click baiting they should be made to report facts or face sitting in pillories for a few months every time they lie

>>502235 >illegal Most of the invasion is done legally. >>502236 2025... they're late by one year, insider info around 2022 had it that according the to the script the war would somehow end in 2024. All that nonsense is just playwriting. Likely caused by a failure to find a sweet deal with (((Blackrock))). That company is plain evil.

>>502236 >>502237 Man I hate Farage so much, imagine if he was only slightly based.

>>502246 Is Kitchens one notch above Garage? I also have to ask about the based book this bit was picked from: >>501930

>>502243 Our military that is medically fully deployable combat troops inc medics is about 18,000. The rest is support there are additional troops like Gurkhas and reserves but that’s a stretch in terms of quality and numbers - maybe another 25-30k total. A peacekeeping mission anyway would require at least 120k on the ground then you have to rotate in and out. Starmer needs to shut his fucking mouth maybe if he’d served time in the forces he would have learned this by having an ammo boot regularly aimed at his lower jaw when it started flapping.

>>502248 Germany and France are slightly over these numbers too. All together we wouldn't even have enough boots on the ground, assuming we even cared about pretending it's all for the Ukrainian grannies and whores who dodged the bombs and not for the Fortune 500 big ones and the tiny hats, who need another homeland because they are definitely being oppressed on their home planet of Judax.

>>502247 The book is One Fine Day - Matthew Parker

Was thinking about all the gypos you used to see flogging parents shite shark tooth necklaces on the skeggy beach as a kid, so I went looking for loose shark teeth to buy online and can't find anything at all that isn't """ethically sourced""" fossils (probably all cast out of cow shit en mass in a garage in morocco). Turns out Poonak banned the trade of shark fins, and certain local species like basking sharks are protected from becoming catfood, but I've still no idea why teeth are so hard to come by, bit weird tbh.