https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4E3biZepU4 …So… Is he right? Is all this really just SEGA's master plan?

>>10173 I think he's overthinking it

fast

On Halloween, Aaron said he would post hints in November about the December "gift". The gift turned out to be the movie poster. So what were the hints?

>>10176 >The gift turned out to be the movie poster Did he actually say that the gift was the poster? Because between how awful that was and that he got people hyped up for it, it's pretty cruel.

>>10178 He posted Thursday something that said "a tiny gift approaches" and then yesterday we got the movie poster

>>10173 Honestly, I doubt it. Even if it's some marketing ploy, SEGA would have to follow up on the movie with something huge. Between Forces disappointing fans, the current state of the movie, they need to do something to make people excited for the franchise again.

>>10179 and nothing notable in between those days and nothing about the candle holder, which is what some people saying the gift was

>>10176 This might be the hint. But it makes me wonder. Perhaps the movie poster silhouette isn't as it seems either. Or maybe it is. None of Aaron's hints/clues are ever good

>>10182 That's why we always gotta look at more clues.

>>10180 >Between Forces disappointing fans, the current state of the movie, they need to do something to make people excited for the franchise again. I'm tempted to say they aren't really going to do anything judging by the past several years (Lost World, the dry period afterwards, then the Boom shitshow, then Forces) and how they didn't really do anything in those cases except making things worse. I really wish they would just flip and deliver something the quality of Unleashed like they did when things were really bad back then. >>10181 I thought the candle holder was a crappy thing to hype up but I never thought it could end up being so much worse.

imagined being such a coked up (((hollywood executive))) faggot you make this dumb shit because you are so out of touch in reality and have been in all your degenerate sociopathic life. god i hope everyone involved in this dies a brutal death

>>10182 >they're fucking with silhouettes again Remember how that worked out the last time?

>>10183 https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=from%3Asonic_hedgehog%20since%3A2018-10-31%20until%3A2018-12-01&src=typd Nov 1 - UK/EU Sega Shop opens Nov 2 - Sonic and Pikachu in Smash trailer Nov 3 - shilling Sega Heroes Nov 6 - meme; SA2, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Labyrinth Nov 9 - Sonic Forces soundtrack on Spotify Nov 13 - SA2/Spyro image Nov 15 - TSR music, Rooftop Run Nov 16 - meme; Mania Adventures Nov 17 - shilling Sega Heroes Nov 19 - meme; ice cream bar Nov 21 - Metal Sonic (classic) comic Nov 22 - Thanksgiving, Modern Sonic and Chao Nov 23 - Black Friday sales Nov 28 - meme; Modern Sonic Nov 28 - meme; chili dogs Nov 29 - TSR music, Seaside Hill + Green Hill I can't think of anything that's related to the movie poster at all besides the chili dogs silhouette things. He did say he would be posting multiple hints but I just don't see it >>10186 Are we the first ones to see this?

>>10186 I got another question about this shit. What's with the lightning on the shoes? Is that the source of his speed? Imo, is this some retarded retake on the Sonic Bible or some shit? Where Sonic was normal hedgehog and got mutated into the speedster he is now thanks to the speed shoes Eggman gives Sonic before Eggman turns evil? It would explain the realistic looking face Sonic has in the poster.

>>10180 Anon, pls post source on this.

>>10190 Static electricity

Some translated tweets of Sonic staff's (or ex staff) reactions to the movie teaser. Ohshima: https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/1072553016140673024 Naka: https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/1072544818625155072 https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/1072544818625155072 Nakamura (kek): https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/1072544643114565633 Maekawa: https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/1072545232112226305 https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/1072545803342888960 Unleashed's character designer: https://twitter.com/SonicJPNews/status/1072551667286069249

>>10193 Amazing. Literally NO ONE likes this design, which has never happened before. One of them classifies Sonic as a "Fairy", which I guess in Japland sense, it just mean "Magical" and doesn't reflect real life comparisons. Another makes a narratively good point "Micky doesn't become a real mouse any time, does he?" likely referring to Roger Rabbit. I'm still on the side you don't have to use that movie as some Commandment or something written in stone for character design for the real world, unless you treat Sonic's cast as toon world characters. If you want Sonic to be like a construct of part of reality, Detective Pikachu for better or worse, is how you have to make the compromises without going full retard like taking a real life hedgehog and slap it onto a human midget.

>>10193 >Nakamura's tweet Kek. Also, I don't think I've ever seen the Sonic fandom so united in something. Fans of Classic, Adventure, Modern Sonic hate this, fans in the West hate this design, fans in the East hate this design, people who work on Sonic doesn't like this design, etc. It's honestly amazing.

It's so hard being a Sonic fan. I don't understand why this keeps happening. Is Sonic the most mishandled IP in history?

I've been holding onto the idea that the movie poster was just a joke or part of a genius marketing campaign. They release a fake design. People get outraged. It goes viral. People who've never had any interest in Sonic talk about it. People who like Sonic but don't keep up with Sonic news are talking about it. EVERYONE knows about the movie now. And then in a few days Aaron reveals that he was fooling us the entire time. But then >>10186 exists and now reality is finally sinking in

>>10190 >What's with the lightning on the shoes? Probably just "cool" special effects.

>>10186 I hate this. Being a Sonic fan will be absolute hell for at least 2 years because of this.

>>10193 I feel bad for all of them. >>10194 >Amazing. Literally NO ONE likes this design, which has never happened before. I've never seen such universal hate for something like this. Usually there's still a decent chunk that goes against the grain, but I actually haven't seen much people defending it. At best there's a couple holding out for a full reveal, but it's kinda crazy how many dislike it. What's sad is nothing will be done to fix it. No doubt they're too deep at this point to change it.

I really, really want to know who thought the movie design was a good idea, and why. I want to know who could have possibly looked at that thing and said "yeah, people will love this."

>>10202 I have to think most of the higher ups don't know anything about Sonic and assumed whatever they were doing was fine.

>>10198 I don't think they would be able to dispel all the bad press they got even if they came out with an actually acceptable design. It sounds like a really retarded marketing campaign to officially communicate a big feature of your product and give interviews about it and then go back on it. Honestly, this fits pretty well with the rest of the bits and pieces we knew of the movie so far. The only hope it gives me is that the negative reaction is so big it makes them consider cancelling it or not marketing it too much or releasing it on DVDs or some shit where they could just hide in under the carpet and never talk about it again. But their industry profits on creating poor products with popular names attached to them because the name alone grabs a lot of eyes and if the IP gets ruined maybe it'll grab a few more, so I'm not counting on it.

>>10204 They won't cancel it. Paramount already bought the rights for Sonic and they already paid Carrey and the other actors. God knows how much of the budget was spent on Carrey alone

>>10203 But it's not about not knowing anything about Sonic. I just can't understand how you can look at that thing and not be mortified.

>>10205 It's a shame, because, honestly, I think Carrey could be a fantastic Eggman with the right direction. But they wasted him on this shitty idea of a movie.

>>10186 http://www.tssznews.com/2018/12/11/sonic-movie-as-another-poster-appears-writer-suggests-that-people-please-relax/

>>10206 I dunno. Movie suits only see dollar signs probably around the IP and don't care what's actually done with it.

>>10208 >just relax Man has no idea how the Sonic fandom is.

>>10205 So many arguments over the years for being cheap fucks with the games and someone just comes and dumps money all over the place but accomplishes absolutely nothing and gives no one anything wanted. God dammit.

>>10207 I still don't get how there are Sonic fans who would find it acceptable (let alone fantastic) for Eggman to be an actual human in a Sonic movie.

>The poster isn't the "tiny gift" Oh god, what else could it be?

>>10213 I can't even imagine. He said he would hint at it in November and >>10188 doesn't have anything that looks like a clue. I guess it could be the cartoon but nothing that was posted seems to point towards that

>>10213 Well, at least it wasn't the poster and it's not related to the movie (and it's not the candle holder either). I'm guessing it's something bigger than new art given the kind of planning behind this with the clues and stuff… maybe some sort of video? Oh shit, what if it's Big's Big Fishing Adventure 2 finally releasing?

>>10213 Maybe a hint at that rumored cartoon?

>>10215 I hope it's not that. I'm tired of memeshit. It's also going to feel like a slap in the face. Like we just got this awful abomination of a movie design and then we'll get some stupid meme game that just makes fun of the franchise. Can't Sonic ever take itself even slightly seriously for once?

>>10196 At least Sonic has good content like fan games and comics/art Banjo and Conker are so fucking dead, people beg for the former to be put into Smash out of pitty and the latter to stay as dead as possible instead of doing shit like pic related. These two are considered outdated, meanwhile Sonic still has mass appeal, but no one competent is allowed to take 100% of control over Sonic and instead, retarded people are like Kishimoto and Tim Miller. It's sad.

>>10212 It's not like Sonic 06 happened before or anything. Once it exists prior, it's not that big of the deal to copers. Just look at the outrage over Sonic by comparison, because NO official design to date is as cancerous as Sonic's right now. EVERYTHING from Sonic 06 looks better than Movie Sonic. Just let that sink in.

holy shit what the fuck

>>10222 ✓ Recent example: Doom³ and DOOM (2016)

>>10225 What cute, untainted by Hollywood rats

>>10225 I want to say hi to Sonic

>>10229 I want to protect Sonic.

>>10230 I want to go play Sonic.

>>10225 How could they miss the mark so much with the movie? How do you go from something like this to someyhing like >>10223 ? >>10231 You disgust me.

what if he looked like this

lol @ the faggots coming at the woodwork to say "i never liked sannnic" it bothers me because everything i like even myself for the way i was born is shitted on, mocked, and picked apart at all the fucking time. how is sonic dead when it's still one of the most highest grossing video game franchise?

>>10229 >>10230 >>10231 I want to hug Sonic.

>>10122 Is this what sally made?

>>10249 Is this a autistic comic about Sonic telling us all not to worry because he's still around and keep smiling?

>>10250 Hell if I know what it's saying, but it's a nicely drawn Sonic.

>>10213 I hope they bring back the dead sega fourms

>>10252 It'll just get filled with bots again.

>>10245 They were never longterm fans, aka, Boostkids or even worse, Boomkids. If you grew up from the 90s/2000s, you know this isn't anything new and just roll with the flow. >Spoiler You are beautiful anon, don't let the world dictate your life, ain't nobody got time for that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOgi_YfaNtE I'll be waiting for the inevitable Ultimate version

>>10249 I wish I knew what this said

>>10256 oh cool they based a lot of the animations of those from Sonic Battle

I hope they announce a new Modern Sonic game soon.

>>10259 i can't imagine it will happen any time soon. Sonic Team has to work on the next Mario&Sonic game which is all they care about anymore.

>>10260 Isn't that why they have two teams of developers? One for the Olympics games and whoever is left for Sonic games?

>>10260 That Sonic Team (Unleashed/Generations) is making the Olympic games. Kishitmoto Team (Colors/Lost World/Forces) is likely making the next mainline game. And if they aren't making a movie tie in at this point (thank fucking god), it's just going to be another mediocre can of worms game anyways. They need to make some Sonic Jam like 3D Sonic game for Taxman to try out, they need to get more and better 3D Sonic devs.

>>10262 I don't even want a game from Kishimoto team at this point. I'd rather just get nothing instead of continuing to ruin Modern Sonic even more than it's been

>>10249 How do the Japanese always seem to draw such great Sonics?

>>10264 >2nd pic I'm sorry, but what?

>>10269 Are there any Maria pics where she's sick and bedridden?

>>10254 >>10266 What if Eggman gave Sonic & Shadow toilet paper tubes? Would that distract them long enough for him to take over the world?

>>10274 Enough to get a good headstart for sure.

>>10265 >>10257 >>10250 https://twitter.com/aISQX1g46O8FmSC/status/1072993471923814400 Here's a translation.

>>10193 https://twitter.com/Yasuharah/status/1072766950948843520

>>10283 That's sweet.

>>10260 >>10261 >>10262 They're no separate teams for Sonic anymore. That ended with Lost World.

>>10286 So there's no more Olympic games then? Because there's no way SEGA is letting Kishimoto go anywhere near their 10 million selling prize possession.

>>10287 I'm pretty sure there is a separate team for the Olympics games, but it's not the old Unleashed/Generations team. It's a different internal SEGA team.

>>10288 I need some validation on that. I've always heard the team that makes the modern Olympic games (London and Rio) was the Unleashed/Gens team, but if it's not them, where the fuck are they? Did they quit? Because none of them worked on Lost World and Forces, which is mostly new staff.

>>10289 The only member I remember working on the Olympics game was Generations director. Who didn’t even work on the main version, he worked with Ohshima’s company on the 3DS version. Other than that we need to compare credits to find out for sure.

>>10283 >No needs to be sad. I can't not be

>>10289 So I went and looked up the Generations staff list on the Sonic wiki. I went and made a list of of people who worked on both Generations and Rio 2016. With those people I also went and looked if they worked on Lost World or Forces as well. >Katsuyuki Shigihara - Game Designer (Generations and 2016 Rio) >Yuji Yamaga - Lead Stage Artist (Generations)/Stage Artist (2016 Rio) >Takahiro Suzuki - Stage Artist (Generations and 2016 Rio)/Field Artist (Forces) >Tamotsu Kushibe - Lead Cutscene Artist (Generations)/Stage Artist (2016 Rio)/Cutscene Artist (Forces) >Yoshinari Amaike - Character Artist (Generations, 2016 Rio, and Forces) >Ryohei Yanase - Character Artist (Generations, 2016 Rio, and Forces) >Masashi Fukumitsu - Character Animator (Generations and 2016 Rio)/Cutscene Artist (Forces) >Kenji Odakura - Cutscene Artist (Generations)/Character Animator (2016 Rio) >Yasushi Ogino - Cutscene Artist (Generations)/Character Animator (2016 Rio)/Special Thanks (Forces) >Hiromasa Yoshida - Character Animator (Generations and 2016 Rio)/Cutscene Artist (Lost World)/Special Thanks (Forces) >Outa Sano - Programming Director (Generations)/Tools & Library Support (Lost World and 2016 Rio)/Programmer (2016 Rio)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Takahiro Nagata - System Programmer (Generations)/Tools & Library Programmer (2016 Rio)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Naoko Shimura - Gameplay Programmer (Generations)/Tools & Library Programmer (2016 Rio)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Koji Ogino - Lead System Programmer (Generations)/Graphics Programmer (Lost World)/Tools & Library Programmer (2016 Rio)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Takateru Ohyama - Gameplay Programmer (Generations)/Graphics Programmer (Lost World)/Tools & Library Programmer (2016 Rio)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Takashi Iizuka - Producer (Generations and Lost World)/Sonic Character Supervisor (2016 Rio)/Sonic Series Producer and Product Development VP of PD and Creative Services (Forces) >Yuji Uekawa - Sonic Character Supervisor (Generations, Lost World, 2016 Rio, and Forces) >Eitaro Toyoda - Sonic Character Supervisor (Generations and 2016 Rio)/Writer (Forces) >Sachiko Kawamura - Art Director (Generations and Lost World)/Project Support (Rio 2016)/Senior Art Director (Forces) >Naofumi Hataya - Remix Artist & Composer (Generations)/Additional Composer (Lost World and Forces)/Project Support and Composer (Rio 2016) >Kenichi Tokoi - Remix Artist & Composer (Generations)/Sound Producer and Composer (2016 Rio)/Additional Composer (Forces) >Tomoya Ohtani - Remix Artist & Composer (Generations)/Sound Director & Music Composer (Lost World)/Composer (Rio 2016)/Sound Director & Lead Music Composer (Forces) >Jun Senoue - Sound Director (Generations)/Special Thanks (Lost World)/Composer and Sound Director (Rio 2016)/Recording Coordinator and Muscian (Forces) >Takahito Eguchi - Musician (Generations)/Cut Scene Music Composer & Orchestrator (Lost World)/Arrancger (Rio 2016)/Cutscene Music Composer & Arranger (Forces) >Atsushi "Sushi" Kosugi (BEAT ON BEAT, inc.) - Recording Coordinator (Generations)/Recording Director (Rio 2016) >Dave Darlington - Recording Engineer (Generations)/Mix Engineer (Rio 2016) >Shigeo Sakurai - Recording Engineer (Generations, Lost World, Rio 2016, and Forces) I stopped once I got to recording artists and product testers and marketers of SEGA and such. There's some overlap there, but I figured the main devs would be what we want to see.

>>10295 And here's the 3DS Rio list. Also, I made a couple mistakes in the first post. Tamotsu Kushibe, Yoshinari Amaike, and Ryohei Yanase worked on Lost World as well. >Hiroshi Miyamoto - Director (Generations and Rio 2016) >Masashi Fukumitsu - Character Animator (Generations and 3DS & WiiU Rio 2016)/Cutscene Artist (Forces) >Hiromasa Yoshida - Character Animator (Generations and 3ds & WiiU Rio 2016)/Cutscene Artist (Lost World)/Special Thanks (Forces) >Yasushi Ogino - Cutscene Artist (Generations)/Character Animator (3DS & WiiU 2016 Rio)/Special Thanks (Forces) >Kazuhisa Shimonou - Special Thanks (Generations)/Character Animator (3DS Rio) >Yoshinari Amaike - Character Artist (Generations, Lost World, and 3DS & Wii U 2016 Rio, and Forces) >Ryohei Yanase - Character Artist (Generations, Lost World, 3DS & WiiU 2016 Rio, and Forces) >Masatoshi Yasumura - Stage Artist (Generations)/Field Artist (Lost World)/Concept Artist (3DS Rio) >Tamotsu Kushibe - Lead Cutscene Artist (Generations)/Stage Artist (2016 Rio)/Cutscene Artist (3DS Rio)/Cutscene Artist (Lost World and Forces) >Daizo Kinoshita - Stage Artist (Generations)/Field Artist (Lost World)/SFX Artist (3DS Rio) >Takashi Iizuka - Producer (Generations and Lost World)/Sonic Character Supervisor (3DS & WiiU 2016 Rio)/Sonic Series Producer and Product Development VP of PD and Creative Services (Forces) >Yuji Uekawa - Sonic Character Supervisor (Generations, Lost World, 3DS & WiiU 2016 Rio, and Forces) >Eitaro Toyoda - Sonic Character Supervisor (Generations and 3DS & WiiU 2016 Rio)/Writer (Forces) >Sachiko Kawamura - Art Director (Generations and Lost World)/Project Support (3DS & WiiU Rio 2016)/Senior Art Director (Forces) >Naofumi Hataya - Remix Artist & Composer (Generations)/Additional Composer (Lost World and Forces)/Project Support and Composer (3DS & Wii U Rio 2016) >Shinobu Yokota - Special Thanks (Generations and 3DS 2016 Rio)

>>10295 Interesting. Thanks for your time, anon. With a few things in mind here >Tamotsu Kushibe >Masashi Fukumitsu Was he on work for cutscenes in Unleashed? if so, that's going to make me wonder why does the animations now look so stiff and "soulless"? At least for me it does, compared to how it was in Unleashed. The other two wasn't used for LW and Forces so I'm banking these three must be where the talent is, considering how that one Rouge webm is nicely handled animation wise. What I don't understand is this one; >Naoko Shimura - Gameplay Programmer >Takateru Ohyama - Gameplay Programmer Considering both come from Generations, but later does Forces… And as of Retro stating otherwise, Forces is a engine port of LW, which might be a retooled engine port of Colors. So why would they use LW if the main game devs are from Generations? Did they also come from Unleashed? Imo, at this point my biggest confusion is, what happened to the engine used for Unleashed/ Generations, because Lost World isn't a "romhack" of Generations, right? I hope to god it's not, but considering what happened between SA2 and Heroes back in the day, I honestly wouldn't be surprised…

>>10297 Tamotsu Kushibe was the Lead Cutscene Artist for Unleashed, like I said in the post above he did also work on Lost World as a Cutscene Artist as well. A mistake on my part. Masashi Fukumitsu was a cutscene artist for Unleashed. >Naoko Shimura - Gameplay Programmer >Takateru Ohyama - Gameplay Programmer >Did they also come from Unleashed? Naoko Shimura did not work on Unleashed, though he did work on 06 (which I think is when he started). Takateru Ohyama worked on Unleashed as an Enemy Programmer and AI System Programmer. Do note that I am using the Sonic wiki to compare these, so if they make a mistake, it will cause me to as well. There's been a couple spelling mistakes which tripped me up a bit.

>tfw Christmas is actually coming >>10297 >which might be a retooled engine port of Colors No, as far as I remember, Colors was its own thing given that it was only featured on the Wii. >because Lost World isn't a "romhack" of Generations, right? If I remember correctly, they stripped down the engine of Generations as much as possible for Lost World.

>>10299 did you make that tree, anon?

>>10300 No, it's from the Japanese Sonic Twitter.

>>10299 >If I remember correctly, they stripped down the engine of Generations as much as possible for Lost World. If this is true, we're totally fucked. Why in the FUCK do you nerf your only good modern gameplay engine just to make it work on the fucking Wii U? It's official, unless Taxman or someone like the devs of Utopia/Islands gets hired to make something solid for Sonic Team, there's no WAY any game at this point will be as good as anything after Unleashed up to Generations. Fuck me.

https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1072758113906909184 So yeah if there was any doubt about the other poster being fake, there you go.

>>10303 I hate this so much. I wish this was all just a really elaborate prank

>>10302 It was likely faster to strip the engine than to make one from scratch or find a third party solution like Unity, especially considering Lost World's gameplay was meant to be Mario-esque. That said, why was the original engine not considered for use when Forces began development?

>>10305 I took that other anon's post as if what happened was they nerfed the original Generation engine and now they are stuck with Lost World's engine now. It would go back to why did they even make Lost World in the first place; moving on from the Boost gameplay for something else.

>>10297 I got bored and looked up the complete history of all the "Gameplay Programmers" and "Hedgehog Engine Programmers" for Forces. They are in separate categories under Zenzy Made by Masaki Miyashita in Forces's credits. Here's what I found. Gameplay Programmers >Generations There are no Gameplay Programmers for Forces who worked on Generations. >Lost World There is one Gameplay Programmer for Forces that worked on Lost World. >Kentarou Tomii - Programmer (06 and Unleashed)/Village Programmer (Unleashed)/Enemy Programmer (Colors)/Lead Programmer (Runners)/Gameplay Programmer (Lost World and Forces) >Misc There are seven Gameplay Programmers for Forces from Sonic games that didn't work on Lost World and Generations >Takefumi Nakayama - Programmer (Rio 2016)/Gameplay Programmer (Forces) >Naoto Ogawa - Object Programmer (Sonic Unleashed)/Enemy Programmer and Audio Programmer (Sonic Colors)/Gameplay Programmer (Forces) >Kentaro Oyama - Programmer (Sochi 2014)/Gameplay Programmer (Forces) >Hiroshi Arai - Programmer (Runners)/Character Animator (Rio 2016)/Gameplay Programmer (Forces) >Tetsu Umezawa - Programmer (Runners)/Gameplay Programmer (Forces) >Yuzou Hirata - Programmer (London 2012, Sochi 2014, and Runners)/Gameplay Programmer (Forces) >Hiroaki Yanagisawa - Programmer (London 2012, Sochi 2014, Runners)/Gameplay Programmer (Forces) Hedgehog Engine Programmers >Generations There are five Hedgehog Engine Programmers for Forces who worked on Generations. >Outa Sano - Senior Programmer (Shadow the Hedgehog)/Boss Programmer (Unleashed)/Programming Director (Generations)/Tools/Library Supports (Lost World)/Programmer (Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Koji Ogino - Programmer (Adventure, Adventure 2, 06)/Graphics Engine Programmer (Unleashed)/Lead System Programmer (Generations)/Graphics Programmers (Lost World)/Programmer and Tools & Library Programmer (Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Takahiro Nagata - System Programmer (Unleashed and Generations)/Programmer and Tools & Library Programmer (Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Takateru Ohyama - Programmer (06)/Enemy Programmer (Unleashed)/Gameplay Programmer (Generations)/Programmer and Tools & Library Programmer (Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016)/Graphics Programmers (Lost World)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Naoko Shimura - Programmer (06)/Level Programmer (Black Knight)/Game Programmer (Colors)/Gameplay Programmer (Generations)/Programmer and Tools & Library Programmer (Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Lost World There are three Hedgehog Engine Programmers for Forces who worked on Lost World, but not Generations. >Yoshitaka Kawabata - Graphic Engine Programmer (Adventure)/Program Support Chao Main (Adventure 2 Battle)/Chief Programmer (06)/Tool / Library Support (Secret Rings)/Lead Programmer (Colors)/Programmer (All Olympic games and Lost World)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Takahiro Sekiguchi - Programmer (Sonic Gems Collection)/Menu Programmer (Secret Rings and Colors)/Technical Programmer (Black Knight)/System Programmer (Lost World)/Tools & Library Programmer (Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Hiroshi Inokuma - Gameplay Programmer (Lost World)/Tools & Library Programmers (Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Misc There are six Hedgehog Engine Programmers for Forces from Sonic games other than Lost World and Generations >Motoyoshi Sato - Enemy Programmer and Boss Enemy Programmer (Shadow the Hedgehog)/Boss Programmer (Sonic Unleashed)/Programmer (London 2012 and Sochi 2014)/Tools & Library Programmer (Rio 2016)/(Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Keiichi Noda - Programmer or Tools & Library Programmer (All Mario & Sonic Olympic Games)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Naoko Shimura - Programmer (06)/Level Programmer (Sonic & The Black Knight)/Game Programmer (Sonic Colors)/Programmer or Tools & Library Programmer (Sochi 2014 and Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Mitsuki Kagawa - Programmer or Tools & Library Programmer (Mario and Sonic Olympic Games 2012, 2014, 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Fumihiro Narita - Tools & Library Programmers (Mario and Sonic Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) Shigeki Kaneko - Programmer and Tools & Library Programmer (Mario and Sonic Rio 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces) >Takashi Kuboki - Development Support Programmers (Sonic Unleashed)/Programmer (Mario and Sonic Olympic Games 2010, 2012, 2016)/Hedgehog Engine Programmer (Forces)

>>10306 >why would they make LW in the first trying to appeal to nintendo/mario users? Nonetheless, it's sad that Odyssey is essentially Mario Adventure while Sonic Team still can't get their shit straight after 06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75W7JVH0GY Ok, this legit got me smiling. This is like seeing the Mania trailers all over again. It's so cutely animated.

>>10309 That was really well done and really cute too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KTHO0E76kE How to fix the new Sonic redesign:

>>10314 This honestly looks nothing like the first poster. So either the first poster was promotional art and isn't actuate, or this isn't. If this is how he looks in the movie, it's better than what we all thought it would be based on the first one. However, it's still not that great regardless though.

>>10314 I still don't like it, but it's not as bad as I thought it'd be. Still, I really don't think Sonic looks good when you try to make him "real" looking to fit in. >>10316 That teaser poster is legit hideous, but if this is real then they should've just shown it in the first place. I still don't think it'd be amazingly received, but the backlash wouldn't be anywhere near as great as it was the past few days. Also Sonic looks incredibly small.

>>10317 See I've been seeing this a bit after seeing this posted on halfchan after seeing it here, and other than the two other images making Sonic's leg seem very human proportioned, keep in mind Sonic's considered height by SEGA was always around 3-3.3ft in size for Sonic. The thing about it is, it's like them making Classic Sonic proportion wise with Modern aesthetic.

>>10314 >>10316 >>10317 I see some are saying the cop is Chris Pratt and not James Marsden in the pic, but I don't know actors so I don't know if that's the case or not. But the logo is also different, so I'm thinking it's either fake or a mock-up poster from around when they started looking for actors.

>>10314 I hate it but it's not as bad as long-legged hobo Sonic. But this attitude is what I'm afraid of. It's still bad. Don't give it a pass because it's not as bad. It's still ugly. This is probably what they want. If this is the real design, they probably released that first poster to make people overreact so when the real one is revealed they think it's better than it actually is.

https://youtu.be/8tltAglVC3o

>>10323 If you don't think this is the tightest shit, then get out of my face.

>>10323 What is Sand Road based on?

>>10314 Babby's first Sonic redesign. >>10320 I sure as hell wouldn't. It's still an awful design but since it doesn't have proportions so close to humans it doesn't fall so deep into the uncanny valley, so it wouldn't be so shockingly offensive to people at first sight >>10316 >>10317 The first two images we got are the official and current ones. First one was from the teaser and second one (the one showing Sonic on top of a bridge) leaked from a movie theater, but is confirmed legit. That design was also confirmed by people that saw the full teaser at that Brazilian comic convention, where it was originally shown. This new picture is another leak but it's material from a year ago apparently. So we're seemingly still getting Gollum Sonic.

>>10326 So, why, is my question? Did Tim Miller really think >>10314 was "too Pixar looking" going off from his previous statements? WTF is this man's problem, how did he think the final result was acceptable?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kSlU3l3SQA

>>10325 The Sand Hill that Tails boarded through to get to Froggy in Sonic Adventure. That was a little unexpected but welcome after the Sandopolis Zone remix. Also reminds me when Sonic made a quip about the opening level in Forced "looking like Sand Hill" albeit coincidentally.

do you guys want to talk about the 'tiny gift' and potential clues from Aaron? I made a big effort post on 4/sthg/ but no one seems to care. I want to talk about it but if people are tired of it I'll go somewhere a little more autistic like reddit

>>10332 Go ahead, m8

>>10331 Remember the time people honestly thought TSR was only going to have Unleashed and Colors levels? Good times.

>>10332 I made a big effort post on 4/sthg/ but no one seems to care >I made a big effort post on 4/sthg/ There's your first problem. I might not care all to heavily about these kinds of things, but I'll participate in what you have in mind anon.

>>10333 >>10335 okay here's some extreme autism and straw grasping firstly just to show that this isn't all totally worthless, Aaron confirmed on his twitter the other day that the 'gift' is not the movie poster. He also said it's coming soon. So we have that image of Sonic in Sonic Mania losing all of his rings. We see the "a tiny gift approaches" text and some other random hidden objects. My thoughts: tiny gift -> tiny chao garden horn = chao can play with trumpets in the sonic advance 1 tiny chao garden, they also play trumpets in SA2's chao gardens if they know how keys -> you need chao keys to go to chao world in SA2 flower = I'm not sure about this one hint orb = metaphor for the image being a hint, or maybe Tikal is the hint orb in SA1 and she's related to chao I counted the rings and I got 83. SA2 - 3 Chao garden with a maximum of 8 chao each. I'm not sure where the horn is from. I've never seen it before. I'm not even sure it's from the games. It could just be a royalty free commercial use stock image or something but leads me to believe he chose that specifically rather just picking a random circular gold colored object from the games. Not to mention if he specifically wanted a horn, he could have used the trumpet sprite from Sonic Advance or the trumpet model from SA2 but that would have been too obvious. I'm probably overthinking this. Continuing on… Aaron said one or two hints would be posted in November. I've posted all of the Novemeber tweets before and nothing in particular sticks out except that there were barely any Mania memes and SA2 got mentioned much much more often than usual. Thanksgiving had a picture of Sonic with Dark/Hero Chao which is notable because these were barely mentioned for years outside of Japan. Neutral Chao get mentioned but rarely the other two. There was a picture with the dragon tiny animal you can give your Chao in SA2 There was another meme tweet about Sonic games teaching us love, patience, and pain. SA2 was the first image posted so it's the one about love. Taking care of helpless little creatures like pets is a way to teach someone about love. Aaron's wording in one tweet made it sounds like hints were posted prior to the Halloween Pumpkin Hill video A week before Halloween he posted a picture of Dark/Hero/Neutral chao as pumpkins. Also posted a bingo card with timestamps that led to the "tiny gift" thing in the Pumpkin Hill video which started all of this. September and prior is almost entirely all Mania related memes with the occasional post making fun of something from SA1/SA2, shilling ecelebs, the Sonic ice cream bar, Arby's, Spyro, etc. and I haven't gone through those yet because I don't think I'm going to find anything. Another thing of note is that they started making Chao merchandise again this year. We got a neutral chao plush and a dark chao plush. The dark chao is especially notable because dark chao haven't received merchandise in something like 17 years. It was one single plush and it might have even been a prototype and not officially released. We also got neutral chao figures. Remember, it's been a long time since Chao were relevant in this series. This can't possibly be a coincidence can it? I know we have Chao in TSR but we also have Silver, Blaze, and Big and out of those only Silver is getting merchandise this year. Isn't it strange for the irrelevant virtual pets to get toys and plushies but not the two giant talking animal characters? guys if you cannot tell I think the gift is a chao garden app. I know Aaron said it's not game related but so much points to it. Maybe by game he meant not a mainline game. It has to be related to Chao in some way. guys. you ugys. chao

>>10336 Honestly, that's actually pretty plausible. I remember Aaron quite some time ago talking about how if people wanted stuff like the Chao to return, then buy the merchandise & show there's an audience for it. Between the amount of merch that's been made for them, the whole "4 Chao in TSR" thing, all the Chao stuff that's been posted lately, etc. I imagine we're definitely getting something huge regarding them & a Chao Garden mobile app sounds pretty appropriate. Would be pretty cool, honestly.

>>10336 Well imo, I don't mind the idea it would be some kind of Chao mini game app, since many Chao fans been begging for that or the return of it to the Sonic games for many years now, so personally, it would be a great idea to capitalize it for the holidays and give something for the Chao fans for many years of waiting. My original devils advocate would be they couldn't make it happen because they don't have the original team members for it, but maybe it being an app version means it's simple but hopefully, accurate to the SA1/2 versions in some way. Here;s hoping anon

>>10336 I was also thinking that maybe it could be related to the cartoon. A cartoon would be big but an announcement for a cartoon that probably won't be out until the middle of next year at the earliest is fairly tiny. Perhaps it's based on SA/SA2 or just the general time period, sort of like how that 'handbook' released early this year talked about the characters as if Sonic Heroes was just released recently. I don't think it even mentioned Wisps, Zavok, Classic Sonic from Generations, etc. When you think about SA1/SA2 and things that are exclusive to those games only, the first thing that probably comes to mind is the Chao garden. Maybe they wanted to keep hinting at these two games without making it too obvious. I still think a Chao Garden app is more likely though, especially after the "tiny gift approaches" image. Plus, after the success of Mania Adventures, I doubt they will want to use 'serious' games like SA/SA2 as the setting since they don't lend themselves silliness/slapstick like MA or sitcom dynamics like the Boom cartoon

>>10323 That's a banger for sure. It's really cool to see Tee Lopes continue to be apart of more Sonic stuff and he goes really well with Jun.

Why do Americans have such a problem with regular mickey mouse / felix the cat JP classic sonic? why did they wanna disneyfy him so much?

>>10343 American here, old out of date farts that grew up in the Realism era keep doing this shit. Actual fans of Sonic don't want this garbage, regardless of race. Same goes for the Pokemon movie.

>>10306 >now they are stuck with Lost World's engine now They made a new engine for Forces. >why did they even make Lost World in the first place Don't we all want to know… >>10305 >That said, why was the original engine not considered for use when Forces began development? I have no idea. specially since I haven't seen anything that made me think the new engine was worth the 3 or 4 years of development it took, and even more considering the original engine manages to provide pretty good graphics even to this day. Maybe one of the graphicsfags we used to have lying around could elaborate on the new features that were added in the new engine (and those that were discontinued, if any) and whether they were worth it or not.

Hoshino can still drawn pretty good.

>>10347 I really like that Metal.

>>10336 >chao garden app I won't deny he's done a lot of Chao mentions, probably more than it would be reasonable if it wasn't something Chao related, but I think something as big as that would need a different kind of treatment. They would probably announce that they were working on it, tease it for months to get more attention, and only then release it. Though they could still do that since they did do that announcement of an announcement thing before… >>10337 >I remember Aaron quite some time ago talking about how if people wanted stuff like the Chao to return, then buy the merchandise & show there's an audience for it. I remember that stunt he pulled encouraging people to cheer "at the right moment" in the first SXSW panel. >>10339 >an announcement for a cartoon that probably won't be out until the middle of next year at the earliest is fairly tiny Given the closeness to TSR's release date, what are the chances the cartoon is going to be based on TSR?

>>10346 >They made a new engine for Forces. Sonic Retro hackers said Forces is a retooled Lost World Engine. Literally half of the content from LW is in Forces as a result. >specially since I haven't seen anything that made me think the new engine was worth the 3 or 4 years of development it took, …Reminder to everyine, the HE2 (Hedgehog Engine) is a GRAPHICS ENGINE ONLY. Nothing to do with the gameplay part of the game outside of working with it to not lag the game to hell when rendering out the lighting at top speeds. The HE2 is indeed a remade HE1 from Unleashed, but even then, that was originally started and used for Mario and Sonic Rio Olympic games first, and just finished development for Forces.

>>10350 >Given the closeness to TSR's release date, what are the chances the cartoon is going to be based on TSR? that'd be nice I guess. But a racing game doesn't seem like great source material. Like what can you do with that besides just show the characters driving? It's either all slapstick or all action. Feels like it would get boring fast, especially if it's handled the way the TSR comic was

>Nearly 150 posts in 2 days Well, the movie was good for something, I suppose

>>10355 Yeah, that part was nice I have to admit, it was fun.

>>10355 So the cat is at least partly out of the bag now between the teases and leaks and all. When do you think we'll get more shit news?

>>10357 In all honesty, I expect more news to come out relatively soon. We're very likely gonna get something huge within the Spring or the Summer

>>10348 What would happen if someone kicked Thunderbolt like a ball?

I don't understand why they wanted to make him into a chipmunk. The fixes this person made are so simple but it makes such a huge difference. It's legitimately good. The old design doesn't even have the back quills. It's literally a chipmunk. I know this probably isn't the final design but seriously it looks like the movie poster design doesn't have them either

>>10360 Silly anon, Real Hedgehogs don't have elongated noses and "Pixar" eyes.

>>10359 It'd be the last thing you'd do for sure.

there's a rumor of a Colors remake: https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/442852948 it's probably fake but I figured I'd post it anyway. How would you feel if it turned out to be real? Personally I'd be pretty angry. I didn't like Colors at all. I can't stand the level design and the physics in the 2D sections which are like 70% of the game.

>>10363 Feels pointless to remake it. A port? Sure, though I absolutely want an Unleashed port more, but a remake would be a waste of time. If they want to remake a game at this point, it'd be one of the Adventures or maybe Heroes.

>How would you feel if it turned out to be real? If it scrapped all the 2D sections, used the HE engine and was made by the Unleashed/Generations/not Kistimoto Team then by all means, go ahead. I mean the story cancer is fucked regardless, so just make the game actually 3D 90% percent of the time, then I'll accept it. Still rather have Unleashed, but whatever.

>>10364 it does feel pointless but I could totally see it happening. Current Sonic Team doesn't know how to do anything but Boost so Adventure 1/2/Heroes are out of the question. Nostalgia pandering is in and Colors is the getting old. They could do Unleashed but that's not going to happen. Kishimoto also seems to like reminding everyone Colors was his game. So, a port/remake of Colors totally makes sense, unfortunately

>>10367 It certainly the ineptitude I would expect from SEGA and Sonic Team, but I have to hope the next game isn't a remake or god forbid a movie tie-in.

Looks like the Shadow milestone happened on 4/sthg/ going by the Booru. Glad to see they didn't fuck themselves over with shitpost drawings, but that's all I know about the actual state of the thread that day. Hope they enjoyed themselves, they've been crying for it for months.

https://twitter.com/indigorush101/status/1072893780641099776 https://twitter.com/t_rothlisberger/status/1072723690620682240

Which one is the least cancerous? 4 basically would have been what I'd tell Tim to do instead of muh actuate hedgehog face. Basically take Knuckles's eyes if you can't take the monoeye design.

>>10371 3 or 4.

>>10371 4 would be a good choice, but it's still going to look like shit on that body.

>>10369 >artist with a digital tablet + good art program come out the woodwork for the shadow milestone just prove my point most of the drawfags in the sonic fandom are modernfags

>>10371 4 is okay. Honestly I'd rather 1 happen. Just go all in and make it barely resemble Sonic so little kids who go to the movie don't grow up hating him because of it.

>>10363 I really doubt they would remake it. What would be the reason behind it, what would they do different that they can't do with their current codebase and other content (textures, sound, etc)? As for a port, the game has been perfectly emulatable for years, so I would much rather they focused on something else.

>>10378 the reason would be this >>10367 . Current Sonic Team loves nostalgia pandering and Kishimoto loves reminding you he made Colors and never misses a chance to shoves his wisps in your face. Might as well just remake his best game > the game has been perfectly emulatable for years it's probably aimed at normies who don't know how to emulate games beyond Pokemon on their phones. They see a game they played 8 years ago for sale again but with shiny new graphics and they buy it. Simple as that

>>10379 > Current Sonic Team loves nostalgia pandering and Kishimoto loves reminding you he made Colors and never misses a chance to shoves his wisps in your face. Might as well just remake his best game Would be hilarious if it ended up worse than the original considering Forces. >They see a game they played 8 years ago for sale again but with shiny new graphics and they buy it. Simple as that Sad, but true. Then again, the same thing could be said about Mania, but as a Classicfag, the point of that game isn't because it's 90s graphics, we want Sonic to play like how he got famous for again. And regarding that for the Colors rumor, I'd choice Unleashed over than since it's the best boost game at doing its job in that department.

>>10379 They could do most of those things by porting it, without incurring in the cost of making the whole game again, which wouldn't see the same kind of sales of an actual new game. Knowing Sonic Team and how cheap they are they would probably just port it wrap it in an emulator and say that they remade it from the ground up, though.

So what Sonic games would you like to see a remake of?

>>10383 I think it'd be really cool if they remade one of the Classics (1,2,3&K, CD), but it's all in 3D.

>>10383 Advance would benefit from widescreen, updated graphics, and a soundtrack not being tailored for the GBA Adventure 1/2 would greatly benefit from graphical updates, bug fixes, etc.

>>10383 The Adventure games need one. Heroes at this point maybe as well. A remastering more than anything, with better fleshed out mechanics. S3K is something many want, but at this point because of how complicated it is to get it done at this point, I'd just want the fans to remake it themselves with Mania, which seems to already have started last I heard.

>>10366 Cute. His chao should take advantage of him more often.

Ian wrote an article about the Sonic movie teaser reveal. https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/2018/12/14/leave-those-legs-alone-there-is-no-true-sonic/

>>10371 I'd say 3. 4's muzzle is too small, plus his eyes are shaped more like Shadow's than Sonic's. >4 basically would have been what I'd tell Tim to do instead I would tell him to pack his bags and go look for a job elsewhere. >>10375 This is not that bad of an idea. Maybe it would be better for it to be completely fucked so that it is as detached from the franchise as possible rather than creating something that's still awful but has some acceptance in the fanbase and is just serious enough to be recognized as part of it in the future.

>>10389 >I would tell him to pack his bags and go look for a job elsewhere. Well sure, if I had more power over him to tell him to fuck off, but when you're dealing with the devil, the only thing you can do is make a compromise at a price. Cuphead told me this.

>>10370 I feel like the reactions from the Sonics would all be different in this pic. Classic would probably be the most like "What the fuck," Modern would be the most accepting, and Boom would just be snickering cause Movie Sonic is getting the same reaction from the fans as Boom Sonic did.

>>10391 Classic is based on Mania Sonic which is hybrid'd Classic Sonic from Generations. Classic Sonic from Genesis era would do what you said, especially OVA Sonic. Modern honestly might given his laid back nature though.

What would your life be like if you weren't a Sonic fan, /fast/?

>>10393 Realistically, I think I would've ended up a huge Pokemon fan instead.

>>10393 Probably a lot happier and more productive.

>>10393 I'd probably end up a cringy, spergy Nintendrone. I blame most of my Nintendo fever to Sonic jumping ship to Nintendo to begin with.

Sonic Unleashed 2 confirmed. :^)

>>10393 I wouldnt like video games period and I wont be a nerd.. so a normalfag

>>10397 Fuck, I thought it was a life sized cream statue.

>>10393 Were you looking for self-deprecating joke replies?

>>10400 Actually no. I'm curious to know where a lot of fans would be if they weren't fans of our blue rat.

Tiny announcement when

>>10402 It's a gift, so probably Christmas?

>>10404 I love her

>>10405 I know that feel.

okay guys I thought of something potentially horrible. So you know how it seems like the tiny gift might possibly be Chao related as stated here: >>10336 ? And you know how we're getting a new Sonic cartoon? And you know how well received Mania Adventures was with its cutesyness and slapstick? And you know how ridiculously popular the Minions movie was and the Rabbids cartoon on Nickelodeon is What if the new cartoon is like these but with Chao?

>>10393 I'd probably been on some other fandom, like Fallout. only reason why I came back to Sonic was because I feel that I'm not socially productive enough IRL, but since the Sonic fandom is so large and (I'm sorry to admit it) autistic there are plenty of things I can say, and I won't be alone on that opinion or ridiculed for it due to there being much worse people of a larger quantity. oh yeah I also came back, because the games are fun too :^)

>>10407 No one is buying a show about Chao.

>>10407 The Chao don't talk for one. And as a Raymanfag, the Rabbits appeal was to be completely obnoxious as all fuck. Chao don't fill the role of that at all. Unless, it was about Omochao. But when was the last time they even referenced it? Generations? Basically that's not happening. You're likely to have Wisps fill that role before Chao.

>>10410 Omochao and 3 other Chao are racers in Team Sonic Racing

>>10411 Ok? Other than the Omochao that I forgot, there's no demand for Chao Minions. Stop the paranoia, that shit erks me. The cartoon is likely 100% Mania the Series or Modern Sonic Adventures.

>>10393 I'd probably be significantly less furry, probably not have a fetish for autistic girls or browse deviantart, and maybe have less interest in level editing and 3d games in general. Last part because my first Sonic experience was being too retarded to play Sonic R and exploring the levels instead of racing.

What music genres would /sthg/ want to see more of in future Sonic games?

>>10415 Jazz,Rock,Hip Hop, Electronica, and Trap

>>10415 Drum & Bass, rock, industrial.

>>10415 Techno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q96aeSuzXpE >>10415 My ideal direction is a mixing of Classic/Adventure1-2/Unleashed of music handling. >Music theme is based on level, not on character >But music is characterized by certain character playing the level (e.g, Sonic has high energy/fast pace music, something like video related; Shadow's have anime synthesis, Knuckles with hip hop, Rouge with smooth jazz ala Mania's Stardust Speedway Act 2, etc) >When going fast (not just boosting, just going at high speeds in general), music synthesis out like it normally does when boost, just not as washed out as much though That's what I want. It would pander to everything I like from each era and adds variety, but characteristics that match the character best.

>>10415 Ska, Ska punk

>>10412 >Stop the paranoia I say there's no gift at all. It's just another plot from corporations to distract people from more important matters like the impending robopocalypse!

>>10417 >Trap But that's not a music genre, anon >>10415 I loved the Sonic CD soundtrack, not exactly sure how you'd classify it.

Here's that face reveal you ordered.

>>10427 That's awful looking.

>>10427 This is terrible

>>10427 I assume that's someone's (unofficial) rendition of the how he'd look but you can never be too sure these days. I don't know why someone would waste their time drawing something like that or even signing it, though. It is something unofficial, RIGHT?

>>10427 What's with the Omelete? So was it all just a fan art conception? Or is this actually from the art team from the movie? I'm confused.

>>10431 Omelete is the company that did the CCXP even in Brazil, which is where the Sonic movie teaser was shown which also happened to show Sonic's full design. The person who drew this art is an artist who works for Omelete and also apparently wasn't even at the event. But Omelete posted it on their Instagram anyway for some reason. It's confusing. I am guessing some of the staff workers there told the artist what the design looked like. Perhaps they feel the drawing was accurate enough to post on their Instagram account.

>>10432 Well if that's offical, the only major thing I hate his the Silver-like quill things on his head… Because frankly, this thing wasn't going to look anything else but shit, but if anyone can't say "we dodged a bullet" and didn't expect the hyper realistic hedgehog face everyone was sure was going to happen, you're being a little too baseless. I'd take that face over having 100% real hedgehog face. That's something at least. And besides the weird "gloves"? This design has only hit 92% shit to me now. It's better than that one fan recreation at had the "Rocket from Guardian of the Galaxy" looking face, that one freaks me out the most.

>>10434 That is a pretty old Bump.

>>10435 Yeah, it's from 5 days after she was created, or possibly less. Good times.

>>10435 Have an alt.

>>10434 >>10437 cute deer

>>10427 >>10429 >>10430 When are you going to sacrifice your first born child for our lord Ken Penders

g'mornin' /fast/

>>10440 Morning anon.

>>10440 Good morning!

So what are your thoughts on TSR, given everything we've seen so far?

>>10443 Thanks to all the new content released after they've delayed it, it's looking a bit better now then it did early on. But there's still a lot they should show off to ensure the extra time given was used properly, to make the game look more interesting gameplay wise than it (currently) looks like. The only great thing so far is the music, which shouldn't be a deciding factor despite how garbage the music quality has been for the past few games besides Mania.

>>10443 I don't really like racing games so I can't really comment on its gameplay or anything like that. I only ever played the first Sonic Riders game. I like the part of the soundtrack. Jun and Crush 40's work sound good. I dislike the music Hyper Potions did. It just sounds really generic and their songs sound too similar. I'm not a storyfag but I was really interested in the story mode until we got screenshots showing the cutscenes would just be static text/images on backgrounds like in Free Riders. Having some good cutscenes and character interactions would have been nice since we haven't seen most of these characters do anything of note in years. I feel like this is going to get a lot the actual storyfags angry

>>10443 I feel they're going to fuck it up. They're once again trying to force the teamplay angle and I don't think they're going to make it work, or at least make it work well enough for it to be worth it. They're messing with the core gameplay to inject this into the game no less, so it has a real chance of fucking everything up, and it doesn't look like the game is going to be much more than that. It seems a lot of people love the music, and it's not awful by any means, but outside of one tune I think, I haven't been particularly wowed by it. I also remember thinking the stages were rather empty and too simple, but it's a racing game so I don't know how far they could or should go in making them more elaborate.

>>10443 It's just kinda there for me. The team aspect doesn't interest me in the slightest, I have a feeling it'll be dead online, and really I'm just not looking for a kart racer right now. I've said quite a few times across /sthg/'s that TSR feels like something that should've come during the off-time between Lost World and Forces.

Do you think the team part of the game will carter to the audience it's made for, kids? That's what Iizuka said was the sole reason it's there for. I've seen people defend that aspect about Heroes, which is 15 years old. Will it be defended a decade later from now for those that played this game at the age of 10? Or do you think kids in the age of online multiple would care moreso for the hardcore local multiplayer of say, CTRR?

>>10468 I don't know how the team aspect itself will go over, when I was young I preferred competing with friends more than teaming up in games, but that was just me.

>>10468 they'll probably like CTR more but I don't think they will hate the team mechanics of TSR either.

https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1074375349960630273?s=19 So uhh, I guess Sonic Team as we know it is gone?

>>10471 Interesting and kinda saddening if that is truly the case.

>>10471 >Kishitmoto might be gone from Sonic forever >Taxman might be in head control of Sonic Team IS THIS THE HAPPENING TIMELINE?! IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT IS!

>>10471 cue the 'sonic is dead/?! oh no!?!' videos from every gaming related eceleb for the next two weeks

https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1074375440171761664 https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1074377128270024706 https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1074377701576855554 https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1074381421844799488 https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1074404791768506369 https://twitter.com/Tracker_TD/status/1074380444991414272

>>10474 And I hope people can call them out for being retarded when that near literally confirms Taxman Team owns the series now, since Sonic moved to America for quite some time now. And whoever Japs worked with him for Mania Plus actually saying they loved reliving the days of that Sonic style, we might honest to god get rid of the cancerous members that just shit out bad ideas and garbage talent.

So what is being worked on now and by whom? Is there an internal team working on 3D Sonic right now? Did all Sonic Team devs disperse into the other SEGA teams? Or are they labeled something different? And the most important question… what about Puyo Puyo?

>>10476 Well, this doesn't actually confirm that Taxman's Team runs the franchise now. IIRC, there's already members of the Mania Team who's moved on & are looking for new work, which makes me wonder who's gonna be the people working on Sonic games going forward. I mean, there's a very real chance that this is just the usual ST mainstays. are moving to the US, or there's gonna be some new internal studio in the US that works on Sonic.

>>10476 >Taxman Team owns the series now I'm not sure about that.

>>10471 I have a feeling this isn't going to result in any net change. I'm going to wait for more comprehensive and official information before analyzing this, for now it's too vague to make any conclusions. But it would be funny if Aaron just went "surprise! Sonic Team is gone and the franchise is no more! Hope you like your tiny gift you shits", kek. >>10476 >Taxman Team owns the series now How? He's just a contractor.

>>10471 >>10475 Also here are archives of both pages of that thread. http://archive.is/8UD9t http://archive.is/9dndP

Honestly, can I ask, why is this mentality of "Sonic Team only makes Sonic games" when A: That was never the case as early as the 90s, and B: we JUST got a game not fucking made by Sonic Team with the past year and a half? Losing the """""original""""" Sonic Team means nothing, and means we are likely getting new blood all throughout, hopefully with new fucking directors for a change. Imo nearly none of the directors for Sonic for the past 2 decades ultimately made the series better for itself after the 90s.

>>10480 >He's just a contractor. Same thing goes for Sakurai, and well, that doesn't stop him from making more Smash games and still be director for them.

>>10480 I'd appreciate some clarity on this situation either from Aaron or Iizuka. I wonder if someone can get that out of them.

>>10484 I doubt it. They're generally so damn secretive. I'm surprised that someone that has a position in the company actually came out and made comments on something like this.

>>10484 what if this is the decemmebr announcement aaron was hinting at

https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/1074413667133714432 Tiny gift should be dropping next week.

>>10488 Hurry up meme man

>>10488 Please be some good news. We kinda really need it.

GO FAST

So: >Sonic Team as we know it may or may not have collapsed >Mania Team are already moving on to other stuff (at least for now) >Movie is looking like a massive trainwreck >Tiny gift coming next/this week Man, we are in for some interesting times with this series, huh?

>>10495 I wouldn't really call them interesting… They're probably going to be pretty boring. Besides the chance of other Sega staff unofficially giving information about what happened with Sonic Team, where/when could we get some information about it, and when's the next investor report coming out?

>>10495 Only artists from Mania left. And I think one level designer. Those can be replaced. Tax and Stealth are the main men, plus some Jap assistance. The movie since day one never going to matter, it was going to be shit by proxy of being a video game movie for a mascot not many care about much anymore. And since the cartoon is still "happening", the only thing that's mostly in the dark is Modern Sonic. Boom is dead, the movie is likely going to make Modern Sonic even worse off now, leaving Classic unscaved. Maybe if SEGA wasn't retarded and never made Boom era happen to coincide with the movie being made (hence the blue armed Sonic again), things wouldn't have gone into deep shit again, again, for Modern Sonic. Should have just made Gens 2.

>>10497 IIRC, Whitehead's already off working on Freedom Planet 2, whenever that comes out.

>>10498 I think I remember that being announced before Mania was announced at the Anniversary Party, so if he worked on FP2 and Mania at the same time maybe he could work on both FP2 and whatever comes after Mania too.

>>10498 He was just commissioned for the programming, which shouldn't take as much time away from other work once you have a good network.

>>10499 >>10500 And reminder, Taxman was director for Mania, not main programmer, that was Stealth.

Would you say that S3&K was easier for new players than Sonic 1 and 2? >>10501 He was? I thought those positions were taken by Sega staff, like that Asian chick that was in some videos/interviews.

>>10495 The Sonic Team stuff is interesting, but it could also just turn out to be nothing. In the event Sonic Team (at least the current group) is gone, I really want to know who is getting their hands on Modern Sonic next. I assume Iizuka (and Hoshino) are still the guys in charge regardless. I don't think there is any issue with Mania Team, they'll come back when needed and they can probably afford to replace a few pieces in the event some can't come back. Really, I just hope SEGA doesn't rush them again. The movie just kinda makes me sad at what could've been on top of Sonic getting laughed at more and more. It's hard to love Sonic. I have no expectations regarding the gift. I still like Aaron, but I know not to get excited for stuff he hypes up most of the time.

>>10502 S3&K had a save system so it was easier by default. When you game over you can go right back to where you left off and keep practicing. I think it's also generally more forgivable than S1/2. There's nothing as difficult as Scrap Brain and Metropolis

>>10502 >He was? Iirc, it said so in Mania's credits. It's blank in >>10289 but that could have been outdated info.

>>10495 hopefully among all of this chaos is Kishimoto getting fired or being moved somewhere else

>>10506 post yfw Kishimoto directs Mania 2

>>10507 If Iizuka and Hoshino leave, he probably becomes head of Sonic.

>>10508 He's been direction Sonic since (technically) Secret Rings. Isn't he basically the head of Sonic anyways?

>>10507 I think I might leave the franchise for good if that happens. He needs to go. If he gets more power things will probably get worse. Or just even more stagnant.

>>10494 If Sonic screws up while rolling, he will face plant into the ground extremely hard.

https://sharkrobot.com/products/chaos-gauntlet Just found this, it looks cool

>>10508 >mfw this actually makes sense >>10509 I think he's a core Sonic Team member but definitely not the head of the team. >>10511 He's fallen from space right on his face before, I'm sure that would be nothing for him.

Thanks to a Playstation feature disclosing the amount of people that earned certain trophies, 4/sthg/'s been doing some calculating and has found that Mania has around 525,000 players and Forces has around 600,000 players on PS4.

>>10519 from the Steam player count leak we know Mania and Forces had around 170k and 35k respectively back in July. So the totals are really close. We still don't know Xbone or Switch sales but I can't imagine they'd be too different from the PS4's. The Switch might just have more of both since it's for kids and kids are into Sonic. It's possible that both games might actually break 2 million. I don't know how to feel. I guess it's good that Sonic's not close to dying like a lot of people thought but Forces selling well despite being mediocre is kind of worrying since it will send the wrong message to Sega. Same with Mania, but for a different reason. I don't want them to think nostalgia pandering = cash cow, instant 1 million sales

>>10520 Mania was constantly in the top downloads on the eshop, IIRC. I think it likely did the best there. Forces probably performed admirably on Switch too.

>>10521 I wonder what the physical sales for the switch are like. Forces had a holiday release and I imagine most parents would rather get a physical copy for their kids to open up on Christmas day instead of just buying it digitally. But that might not even matter. Everyone keeps saying kids don't actually care about Sonic anymore so who knows

>>10522 Hard to say, I wish SEGA would just give us the figures.

>>10519 >Mania has around 525,000 players and Forces has around 600,000 players on PS4 That sounds too high and too even taking into account the previous figures we got from Steam. I guess the totals could make sense if we assume the games didn't do too well on PC and XBone but did well on Switch so that we arrive at an 1.3 to 1.5 million figure, but that still leaves me wondering about the high Forces sales.

>>10497 >only artists left Were they sprite / pixel artists? I imagine it would be pretty hard to replace them

>>10525 I imagine the PS4 and Switch probably did near equally well. They're the most popular consoles right now, no? For what it's worth, SteamSpy seems to say both Mania and Forces are in the 100,000 to 200,000 range, but I have no clue if their numbers/estimates are any good anymore.

>>10525 > taking into account the previous figures we got from Steam. I imagine most people with consoles are usually younger kids. Their parents aren't going to buy their 10 year old a $1k gaming computer after all. Kids are more likely to buy a game because it has a character they like in it. Adults, not so much. They'll look at reviews and such. That explains why no one bought Forces on Steam but it has such high PS4 sales. I don't think 600k is unrealistic when you remember Sonic's primary demographic is still young kids, not middle aged memers like 4chan will tell you. And for the PS4, ~94,000 people alone got one of Forces' achievements. This number came directly from Sony's servers so that has to be right. 15.8% of all players with Forces got that achievement, which also comes straight from Sony. So the final 600k has to be close to the actual number.

And iirc, reminder than Mania was stated haft a year ago to have already sold ~1.2 million copies, before Plus was annouced, which said sells came from the Switch. And regarding how sells works, it's all about revenue from product cost. Mario Odyessy making Forces' profits would have been a massive flop. For something as small as Mania, it's honestly not bad at all, which is why its sell numbers got revealed so early. This is also calulated by companies within the FIRST year. Any sells afterwards barely count stock wise. It's very likely Forces by this point has reached a million or more. But Mania beat it out faster, and likely, either is still higher or has leveled out with Forces give or take thanks to a 3D game commonly has more demand than a 2D one.

>>10524 So… this is the final clue for the gift in theory?

>>10534 cringe

>>10534 I hate Americans that can't handle criticism. Just like I do for Japs. At least Japs try to please people's expectations to the best of their ability.

>>10534 >https://twitter.com/TruckStopSantaC/status/1074857633868341249 Ha. So they're going to try to meme this into being watched? Do you think Aaron is behind this?

>>10538 Apparently, Aaron isn't running the account. Now, as for what inspired this account to be made, I dunno.

>>10539 >yfw this is why Gene left his position at Sega

>>10534 It’s gonna be a long and annoying year.

>>10542 > long and annoying Just like Sonic's legs, am I right?! #SonicMovie

>>10534 ok you guys, this is epic

here's something everyone probably knows but I only just realized the other day. If you've ever seen Sonic Adventure marketing materials and the old wallpapers, you might know these lines >I'll never look back, I've got no regrets >'Cause time doesn't wait for me >I choose to go my own way which never seemed to ever show up anywhere else. Well in the official Sonic Adventure character manual there are these images that have the characters with some cheesy quotes. For Tails, Amy, and Knuckles the quotes are taken from their theme music. For Sonic's it's not. This makes me think It Doesn't Matter's lyrics used to be very different. I also remember seeing on the Crush 40 twitter about It Doesn't Matter. I think that was the very first song recorded for Sega specifically as Crush 40. So I guess it went through several iterations of lyrics. neat right. If there's a demo version for this song like there is for Open Your Heart or Sonic Heroes, I want to hear it so badly

>>10546 >My duty is to guard the Master Emerald The fuck? Where did that line come from?

>>10547 I didn't even notice that. The other lines are the same. I guess it's an older version of the song too. Or maybe "my duty is guard thr Master Emerald" sounds more succinct than "my duty is to save the flower from evil deterioration "

What are some things you'd change about Sonic's game style? Do you want a Sonic game to be always be about constant speed? Or do you want momentum back as a form of pacing yourself and using the environment to dictate how you progress through the game? What about art style? What direction was your preferred visually? (I'm not addressing story direction here, just visual tones.) I'd want a game that really allows me to take any path I'm willing to take just to get to the goal instead of just being hallways. It doesn't really matter how fast I do it, as long as it's responsive and flows well with the controls. And as long as the artstyle doesn't feel like a ripoff of too darks/comedy silliness that doesn't contrast to Sonic's design, I'd be fine with anything. I think a war tone could have worked but not when you make the game visually look like Colors/Lost World/Heroes/etc.

>>10549 Unleashed’s art design needs to make a comeback. The main art director is still with the team, I know she can do it. I don’t really have a great idea of what I would want from a gameplay perspective outside of wanting it to be full 3D and at least a little more open than the hallways we get in most 3D Sonic’s.

>>10550 That is a good question. What would be a "full" 3D Sonic game? We all have to realize here that to this today, no Modern Sonic game really was as 3D as most well known 3D games like Mario or Rayman. The over use of automation, 2D sections and very tight and linear level design doesn't exactly open up Sonic for the sake of his gameplay direction, which personally isn't the fault of say, SA1/2 at the time of learning the ropes, but I honestly wished Heroes forward really figured this out instead of diving deeper into the handicaps to get by with the jump into "3D" Sonic, only to end up where we are today, not much better than where we started. I for one think a mythos to Sonic's style should keep in mind how going fast opens up parts of levels that normally can't be accessed as easily (but still doable otherwise) without going fast. I still think using speed to climb vertically would be better for gameplay over just going vast distances, would usually has been the problem with Boosting because it makes for very expensive level designing and usually, very short levels.

https://twitter.com/t_rothlisberger/status/1074924888694116354 lol

>>10552 Damn, I'm so hungry now.

Tumblr deleted my blog because it somehow got flagged as explicit Lol.

>>10546 >demo version for this song like there is for Open Your Heart or Sonic Heroes Are those on Youtube? Post em. I'd definitely be okay with retroactively getting more Adventure tunes, even if it's just alternate versions.

>>10557 Oof. Sorry to hear that, anon.

There's a Sonic Humble Bundle for those on PC who want some Sonic games. https://www.humblebundle.com/games/sonic-bundle

>>10560 I'm sure this will pump up those PC numbers for Mania and Forces.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=Xddu4wUWUhE >>10558 The Sonic Heroes one I know was included with Mega Collection Plus. I recall hearing the demo for Open Your Heart before, I think in a video of it being announced in Japan 20 years ago.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=PQ7Qj2xygj8 >>10558 Here's Open Your Heart.

>4chan will be temporarily down for maintenance from 7PM to 11PM EST. Welp, guess I'm stuck here. Hi /fast/! Do anything Sonic related today?

>>10563 Didn't Senoue say there were a ton of versions of Open Your Heart before we got the final version in Adventure?

>>10565 I've been thinking about playing some Sonic games lately, but I'm playing some other games that I don't want to get interrupted. So for Sonic related stuff, I'm just sticking to listening to Sonic music right now.

>>10567 Cool. What kind of Sonic music are you listening to?

So…Rouge is not canon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC9wtpcVm3M >>10569 This was the last one. >>10570 Everything and nothing is canon.

>tfw caved and got that sonic humble bundle really looking forward to seeing how SHIT forces is once I get my new grafx card.

>>10572 It's more just disappointing than straight up shit.

>>10572 It's not horrible…just really barebones and underwhelming. I finished it and never replayed it, I just don't have the urge to.

>>10519 How the fuck is Forces higher than Mania?

>>10571 Huh, I've never heard this before. It's a You Can Do Anything remix, right?

>>10575 Not sure. Pretty sure Mania sold better than Forces on Steam and the Switch, though.

>>10575 younger kids who aren't old enough to own phones or computer to read reviews on, people who went into the game totally blind, people who never cared for 2D Sonic, etc.

>>10575 My guess is that it's the first mainline Modern Sonic game on a non-Nintendo console since Generations, so I imagine anyone who isn't on Nintendo or PC was a bit starved for some Sonic. >>10576 I think so. They were remixed by the composers of CD.

>>10578 I pre-ordered it on the PS4. I had never played a 3D boost game before, and the hype kind of blinded me to some of the obvious problems that were shown off in the pre-release gameplay footage.

>>10575 Forces marketed its game more towards younger audiences (children & whatnot), whereas Mania was something that was more geared for the hardcore, older sections of the Sonic fanbase. It also being the first Modern title on current-gen consoles probably helped it, too. Honestly I'm just glad sales for the franchise isn't as dire as it seemed before, given that both games seemingly did well financially.

>>10581 It's a bit of a double-edged sword. Obviously we want Sonic to succeed to show it's still worth continuing to make games, but mediocre games doing well financially doesn't exactly motivate SEGA or Sonic Team to do better.

>>10565 Well, shit. Let's see how they fuck up this time.

>>10572 >new grafx card I doubt a new graphics card is really necessary to play Forces, unless your current one stopped working or something.

>>10582 On one hand I'm glad there's still interest in Modern Sonic and it's still selling alright, but on the other hand it making a profit means that SEGA doesn't need to improve anything, like you said. I just don't know how to feel about it. I'm torn.

>>10573 >>10574 I considering those descriptions as shit to me. Not him but if my expectations are Unleashed (Boost)/Generations(Boost) and Mania by comparison, I think that classifies Forces as bad. Mario fans wasn't soft on Sunshine, so neither should we.

>>10584 my current card is a 6570 lmao. If I remember right it couldn't even play Generations well.

I want to thaw that frozen fish

>>10568 >centermouth

>>10586 I mean, there are plenty of people calling it worse than '06. Maybe now that Sonic is a SoA IP, it'll be easier for important people like Iizuka and Nakamura to know what fans think of it…?

So, the tiny gift Aaron talked about is gonna be revealed on Thursday. Any guesses? >>10585 >>10582 Yeah, it's basically a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. My only hope is that whatever weird restructuring is going on at SEGA benefits the franchise.

fast

>>10519 Imagine how much more Forces would have sold if it was actually amazing or at least a 7+/10. It would probably be at least double that. I hope that's the lesson Sega takes away from this.

>>10585 For now, I'm just gonna take it as good news that Sonic is selling since I think we kinda need it right now. >>10586 That's fair enough and I do think fans in general aren't soft on it much. Many people are calling for Kishimoto to get kicked off Sonic, so that's a start. I don't think it should be lumped in with the worst of the worst, though.

>>10591 I'm thinking merch. It's about that time where toy companies start putting out catalogs for the new year.

>>10568 >>10589 I missed when the series didn't rely on that 2D effect and ultimately made the expressions look so phony. It shouldn't be hard to model a face that can stretch around for all 3 perspectives.

>>10592 You don't always have to go fast. Sometimes it's good to just take it slow, y'know?

>>10590 If they're still in charge I doubt they'll change the way they gather feedback.

>>10593 Agreed. I also hope they learn that whatever comes next regarding a new Mania/Classic game should have a physical release from the git go.

>>10579 Damn, I forgot Lost World was Wii U exclusive. >>10580 >I pre-ordered

>>10601 That Nintendo exclusivity deal looks awful in hindsight.

>>10602 Unless Nintendo paid them a lot of money, it was just straight up idiotic. Even with Switch selling much, much better it would've been idiotic.

>>10519 It'd be fun if Nintendo did one of their screw ups and revealed sales data too. Having Steam and PS4 done it, it's their turn now.

https://www.twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/1075153706767642624 who excited

>>10605 my guess is that tomorrow will reveal that Thursday is their holiday special stream announcing the return of weekly Thursday streams

>>10604 It'd be fun to know how everything is selling on each platform.

>>10605 My expectations are gonna be low, but I'll still hope for something nice.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=H5d42w4ZcY4 >>10580 >I had never played a 3D boost game before Never had a 7th Gen console? >>10581 >>10593 Mania probably should have sprung for a physical edition in the first place, on the upside we got an artbook and additional content out of it. The latter especially wouldn't have been possible to be included from the start given how it was delayed twice. I'd hate to think what state the game would be in if they just pushed it out in its intended Spring release date. Makes me curious as to just how far in development Team Sonic Racing is. I'm still pissed that both games ended up having Denuvo despite being cracked, even for Plus. Really did a number on their potential PC sales until the recent Humble Bundle, maybe.. Going to be a downer that TSR will likely share the same fate. >>10601 >pre-ordering anything embed related >>10602 Really does

>>10605 So it's merch. Maybe it's more chao merch.

>>10610 how can you tell it's merch?

>>10605 >>10608 This. I'm sorry to be a downer but I get the feeling this is going to be overhyped and end up disappointing, specially given the context we're going through.

>>10354 >>10269 Some cute Rouge in there

>>10609 How old is he now? Because yum

>>10613 >that slight blush on both of their cheeks cute!

>>10609 The amount of extra physical stuff that they made for Mania is incredible that it all got okayed, but an actual physical release didn't until Plus happened. Don't get me wrong, though, I loved the Vinyl and Collector's Edition I got for it. Those were 100% worth it for me.

>>10614 i'm calling the po po

>>10611 What else could it be if it's not game related or from the movie? Music? Maybe, but people have been guessing it's Chao related or SA2 related based on all the adventure references.

>>10618 Can't be music, they just dropped a track for the new racing game recently like nothing.

>>10618 Big's Fishing Adventure 3. All the Adventure references make sense. It's not really a game. It's something Aaron has been working on for awhile. It makes sense

Will you be his Valentine next year? :^) >>10607 Wish SteamSpy wasn't neutered, or vgchartz was actually reliable. >>10605 Woo.

>>10622 I want to eat bread that has a face

>>10623 What if it was Sonic's face?

>>10624 that's even better

>>10622 >no 7eleven deal

>>10549 I don't really have a problem with either speedy gameplay or momentum based gameplay as long as it's done sensibly, so I don't want a running corridor like in the boost games and I wouldn't want a painfully slow experience or one where it'd be overly difficult to get going either. Regarding art style, I'd like something like Unleashed, but I'd want places that feel a bit more belonging in fantasy. Apotos did a goob enough job, but I think you could go further. I'm reminded of this place I saw the other day that I wanted to post here but forgot. Looks like it'd go really well with Sonic! In terms of art style at least. >I'd want a game that really allows me to take any path I'm willing to take just to get to the goal instead of just being hallways. This would have been awesome.

>>10628 That does look like it'd be a really fun level to run through.

>>10622 Is there another promotion happening right now?

>raisins At least that's there

>>10630 I think it's from Joypolis.

>>10631 I still can't believe that promotion happened.

>>10628 Looks really nice anon. They need to look up this shit online, although going on trips to these places would always be a better experience to feel the culture instead of just copying it, though, would obviously take chucks of money to do so.

>>10631 Need more owls

>>10634 What's the outfit based on?

Blaze is, dare I say, a hot tamale

>>10638 Is Blaze a good cook?

>>10639 Only with live food

>>10641 Hmm, interesting.

Teen Rouge or midlife crisis Rouge?

>>10644 Which one is which?

>>10633 >>10631 I'm still mad we didn't get any Hooters outfit dlc or any Forces themed outfits in the game

Sonic.

>>10633 And it actually went well.

>>10648 >kicking the table That ouchmouse is gonna get fired

>>10637 I don't think it's based on anything in particular, artist just wanted to draw gothic Bump.

>>10646 That would've been amazing.

>>10647 I love Sonic. He looks so cool.

>>10653 The Sonic fan community has so many good artists.

>>10644 Any Rouge

>>10583 >over two hours late Typical.

>>10657 Shouldn't be surprised.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeuTAdc6Lkg I missed the days of sprite making. Dat Blaze and Amy at :42, I never seen them before. Is he making a mod with more modern characters?

>>10663 I haven't paid much attention to the Mania mod scene. How much stuff is there for Mania?

>>10664 Well there's quite a lot of stuff, ranging from pallet/character swaps, to mods of characters with unique gameplay additions, to even full stage mods that can stretch to be game spanning. I heard there are attempts to remake S3K in Mania and already started doing Sonic 2 as well, in the Mania format.

>>10665 3&K in Mania could make up for the fact we likely will never get a remaster like the other Classic games.

Sage's hard claw

Is anyone here into arts and crafts? Or are you just consumers when it comes to content relating to Sonic? I feel like being an artist but can't use that art for games makes me feel sad since I have to spend more time getting myself known and stuck with commissions to pay for my needs. Anyone else has that issue with life? Can't spent time with what you want and have to spent it doing errands instead?

>>10668 I'm just a consumer, I don't got any artistic talent. >Can't spent time with what you want and have to spent it doing errands instead? That's pretty common in life in general. Just put work in place of errands.

>>10668 I get what you're saying, anon. Even if you feel like you're not gonna use your art for games, you shouldn't let that deter you from trying your best to follow your passion for art & attempting to get your name/brand out there.

>>10668 >Is anyone here into arts and crafts? I'm pretty sub-par at art. pic related, it's my magnum opus plus I can't draw anything other than mobians

Night /sthg/

Good morning /sthg/ >>10672 Night anon.

>>10668 Yeah. Ultimately, all you can do is try to find time to squeeze in to do that thing you really want to do >>10671 >spoiler That's only a bad thing if you want to be a serious artist. If you're fine with being really good at that then keep on truckin'

>>10668 Yeah, I draw Sonics.

>>10668 I have no art skill but I wish I did. I am learning how to etch glass and do things with vinyl but none of that matters if I'm not artistic enough to come up with my own designs

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1075461622137643008 mania adventures part 6 tomorrow

>>10679 I guess Aaron really did forget to post clues in October/November. Nothing hinted at this.

>>10679 Literally none of this was hinted. I mean I liked Mania Adventures & all, but there's not really much to get excited about here.

>>10679 Well, that’s neat. A Christmas special. I bet Amy shows up.

>>10679 I guess this means the next cartoon will be based on Mania Adventures' formula too.

>>10684 Are you sure this isn’t the next cartoon itself?

>>10685 I doubt they would make a full cartoon just about Mania. That would be dumb since the game is over a year old. It would make more sense to make it about Classic Sonic in general. Or the other Sonic.

>>10686 No, I mean what if there is no next cartoon series and that the rumors were just for this cartoon Christmas special.

>>10687 then I sob

So, is there anything else besides MA P6?

>>10689 Team Sonic Racing in half a year. The movie next year. The new cartoon which might not actually be coming or if it does it just Mania Adventures. The next IDW Sonic comic unless it was delayed again. Other than that, no.

>>10679 I just remembered I hadn't yet seen part 5. Do you think this will be longer than the previous individual parts?

>>10691 Why didn't to watch the finale?

>>10691 I would hope it's a bit longer than usual

>>10692 I just forgot about it. They're neat animations but nothing really I'd die to see, so I must have missed the release and since it was the last one, people probably didn't talk about them that much anymore and I wasn't reminded.

Slow.

>>10697 As is life on /fast/

>>10697 Slow news day And I was tired most of the day

You get the chance to choose one Sonic character for a spinoff. Who do you choose & what type of game would it be?

>>10701 Amy Rose - Beat Em up ala Viewtiful Joe/Streets of Rage.

>>10701 Cream in a 3d platformer similar to banjo kazooie though if she got a spin off, I'd probably get annoyed by her voice

>>10701 Eggman strategy game.

Since we are asking about things, what level theme is your favorite that's been done in the series so far? And what new ones would you want to see?

>>10701 A pretty exaggerated fighting game with Shadow.

>>10705 Love the looks of Collision Chaos Present and Stardust Speedway Bad Future the most. Throw out a mention to Press Garden from Mania too. >And what new ones would you want to see? Someone on 4/sthg/ a good time back made like a little concept for a Vermont/Canada like fall forest level that I really enjoyed. Also would love to see Modern Sonic run around a giant shopping mall. Like one of the huge ones.

Are there any Sonic things that you regret doing? Like, anything you've bought __06? that you later wished you didn't, or something you might have done online or offline regarding Sonic you wish you could take back, etc.

>>10708 Honestly? Not archiving some of the crazy fanfics I used to read back around 2008-2010. So much crazy stories from that time are lost forever & that kinda sucks

>>10708 I wished I've never supported Colors knowing how the future ended up being thanks to Kishimoto

>>10709 I imagine you did, but just in case, have you checked the internet archive? It's surprising how much stuff they were able to archive.

What Sonic music do you listen to most?

>>10712 Mostly stuff from the SA1-SA2 OST, or the CD JP soundtrack

>>10712 Really, a lot over the years, from Classic to Modern. Some of the recent titles like Lost World and Forces not so much, but there's like one or 2 I like from there. I mostly favor 2-3K (Mania/Tee Lopes -ifed versions moreso) and the Adventure-Unleashed stuff the most.

>>10712 Probably CD's the most. Also, I enjoy a good bit of Crush 40.