fast

slow

3x faster

Is there a better bromance in the franchise right now than the one between Sonic & Pikachu?

>>8320 Give me a example I've never seen oversized quality, on model merch of characters that wasn't normie tier prices.

So hey, IDW Sonic #11 may come out next week. Pretty cool.

>>8318 I thought the shitty new comics weren't adapting the games outside of Forces.

>>8319 Forget Tails and forget Buddy, Pikachu is Sonic's new best friend.

>>8327 these are adorable

Sonic and Pikachu are two of my favorite things. I wish I knew how to draw so I could contribute something nice while it's still popular

>>8330 I used to like Pikachu and the Pokemon anime on TV a bunch when I was younger. Weird to see such a small moment cause a bunch of creative stuff, but I’m happy to see it.

>>8331 Same. Kind of a shame there's no likely crossover between the two that could happen, tho.

>>8334 Deservedly? Or randomly?

>>8335 For having a bubsy op

my pikachu/sonic crossover art

>>8337 kek

>>8337 Beautiful

>>8336 So deserved.

>>8327 Smaller animals traveling on top of Sonic's head is the cutest thing.

Found it.

>>8342 I think lots of fans share the feeling.

>>8334 So did they make a new one? This isn't news for that general, if that's all it was just make a new one and continue on. Why was it just bubsy? If it had Sonic in it it would have been fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpleoNarfAg >Sensible Chuckle.png

Would u play this

Would u play this

>>8347 >>8348 >Fleetway Amy No.

>>8347 >Sonic 3 & Amy Sure?

>>8349 >not liking fleetway amy Explain yourself cause shes sure as hell better than the game vers

>>8351 Her design is shit and her crossbow is stupid.

>>8352 at least she looks like a hedgehog and like she has more personality than "im a girl"

>>8353 >>8354 Hit a sore spot?

>>8355 Please stop instigating the Fleetwayfag. The mods already got on his case, the last thing you should do is go down with him.

>>8355 im allergic to garbage taste so yeah >>8356 you know all i do is respond to the rude tones other anons give here and get ruder, if the mods want to flag me for that then guess what's going happen?

>>8356 Not him & I don't even hate Fleetway, but yeah. Let's not go down this route here

kek

>>8356 I didn't know there was a Fleetway fag. I just thought some anon was getting pissing somebody dared to not like something he did.

>>8361 You were being a cheeky cunt in tone and I took an issue with that, is a problem? You're disrespectful.

>>8362 Anon, this is 8chan. If people being less than polite bothers you so much, you probably shouldn't be posting here.

>>8363 it doesnt bother me but its a problem if i get warned for responding to negative shit negatively

>>8367 Never noticed Shadow being in this pic, maybe I didn't see the full version before.

IDW covers

>>8370 Pretty cool covers.

>>8366 Based on this and all the classic games where Eggman outruns Sonic, Eggman really is the fastest thing alive.

>>8319 >>8326 >>8327 >>8329

>>8373 Well Tails, maybe if you'd stop being a pussy and FIGHT like you used to in the pass or your Mania counterpart, then you'd be respected again.

>>8370 >Left one Literally a better cover than Forces.

>>8370 they're nice

>>8373 So which was worse, Lost World Tails or Forces Tails?

>>8378 Lost World Tails at least had a spine and did something. Forces Tails cowered at any sign of personal danger and didn't do anything significant.

>>8372 What I find hilarious is that none of the games since the classics have even bothered to contradict that. There's never been a point in a story where he runs away, under his own foot power, and Sonic catches up with him.

>>8370 Solid covers

>>8382 these are precious

>>8372 With how literally some people take some things, I wonder if Iizuka has been asked about this at a con or something and what he replied.

>>8385 He'd probably just say Eggman keeps getting enough of a head start.

>>8384 我想你

>>8389 I don't feel so good…

>>8343 And I'm enjoying every single second of it.

I was sifting through old pixiv batch downloader folders that I've been meaning to do for years, and I found these. Enjoy.

>>8393 Neat

What’s a genre the franchise hasn’t done that you think would make a cool game?

>>8395 Real time strategy.

>>8395 Sonic rhythm game

>>8397 This could be pretty fun.

>>8397 Imagine having access to all Sonic songs for it. It'd be amazing.

>>8402 >Access to all Sonic >Dancing to the Sonic R OST, or the JP CD OST This is money, lads. How have we not gotten this yet?

Test

>>8407 Looking good. What you testing, anon?

>>8406 I swear there was gonna be Crush 40 DLC for Rock Band at some point, but it fell through.

>>8408 Trying to do something animation wise. What I want to do even I'm unsure of doing in the first place, but I was fucking around with shaders so I posted that. I hope this goes somewhere in the end unlike other uncompleted works.

>>8410 Ahh. Well hey, keep it up anon.

>>8410 Good luck with it, anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_RYk6-0Q54 IN UNREAL Pretty impressive

>>8413 Shit, that looks awesome. I heard GHPAnon is actually helping out the dude working on this, which is pretty cool

>>8414 Oh no wonder I get Bumper Engine vibes from this. I hope I get to understand unreal better than unity, I'd like to use one of these damn engines at some point.

>>8415 Same. Despite the ozcrash/oban drama, I am loving the amount of 3D fan projects popping up lately. Hopefully at least a few of them finish.

>>8417 You think Sonic prefers running through hot climates or cold ones? He never seems to worry about heat stroke or hypothermia, so I assume he has no problem with the actual weather conditions.

>>8418 If it ever gets too cold, he can just wear some clothes

>>8418 Sonic generates heat by running. The rush of air around him, while he runs, removes heat from his body. Therefore, Sonic always remains at the ideal temperature.

>>8420 …Fuck that make sense.

>>8419 >spoiler B-but t-t-thats forbidden

>>8419 As long as there's no pants.

>>8410 Make sure to post updates. It's always cool to see what people are up to.

>>8423 But what if he did wear pants?

>>8425 The friction of him running would cause them to light on fire, immolating his legs and possibly crippling him from every going fast again.

>>8426 As an additional note, this is why most of the fast characters don't wear pants. Blaze gets away with it, because she can control fire, and thus is able to keep her pants from burning.

>>8425 He probably would tear them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ctsbvzVkN0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkkgAnMLFHw So, funnily enough, Sonic now takes damage when in water in Smash Ultimate. >17:00

>>8430 Pretty sweet attention to detail, poor Sonic

>>8429 >sonic chronicles remaster why And they didn't even try with Tails's voice actress.

>>8432 Making custom sprites? >>8433 This dev seems to really love the game, likely his first.

>>8434 It's an old picture from someone else, but that's what he was doing, yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS3x5h9HLHU Welp, thanks Shadow. You triggered Samerai and now he's memed Sonic Mania

https://cytu.be/r/fast do you think this is up for grabs?

>>8437 >tfw no energetic catgirl presidential daughter gf who plays video games and likes to pilot giant robots

>>8441 Cute sleeping rat

>>8430 That's kinda cool.

>>8437 We need a new Sonic OVA.

>>8431 >poor Sonic Rat needs to learn to swim. He's 15, it's his own fault for not learning at this point!

>>8445 Fair point. He has to get rid of his fears one way or another, I suppose.

>>8446 With how many times he's had to either be in or run on water, it's amazing how stubborn he is to learn.

>>8447 Why does he need to when he can just jump infinitely in water in Colors?

>>8448 I guess he can do that.

>>8448 Peer pressure.

What's Sonic gonna do when he finishes exploring the world?

>>8453 Go to space? Alternative dimension? Time travel?

>>8453 >>8454 More storybook adventures.

>>8453 Travel to the human world and explore it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtgDdLqCZCg This hurts this isn't a plot point in the games, and any attempt at them was hampered thanks to making shitty quality games.

>>8458 Best bromance >>8453 >>8456 And once he's done traveling to the human world, he'll explore the Sol Dimension. Sonic knows how to keep himself busy.

>>8429 This actually looks pretty good.

>>8457 No it doesn't. That's a really dumb idea for a plot point. Metal is cool precisely because he isn't Sonic. He might be made in the image of Sonic, but his speed and strength are all his own. To make him a corrupted Sonic is to undermine his strength and accomplishments as an individual.

>>8461 He's just a robot, but whatever, I never said I wanted that to be canon, just exposition like that adds interest to the narrative of Sonic that isn't only exclusive to hardcore fanboys. And to interject, if he isn't Sonic, what's the point of Heroes? He's trying to prove his is the real one, confirming he's the opposite goes against Heroes' portrayal of him.

>>8462 Heroe's portrayal of him was shit, though.

>>8463 Guess that kills this discussion.

>>8458 Why is the rat acting like a dog and the hedgehog acting like a rat?

>>8464 I mean, Metal wanting, more than anything, to outdo Sonic is a great character trait. But turning him into a delusional retard isn't.

>>8465 The "hedgehog" is a rat.

What are some Sonic games you like that a lot of fans seem to hate, /sthg/?

>>8470 '06

>>8470 I’m not sure I have any that fall under ones that I like, but fans don’t.

>>8470 sonic adventure 1/2. They get a lot of hate nowadays

>>8472 Well, what games do you enjoy?

>>8475 The Classics, Adventures, Heroes, Unleashed, Generations, Mania. I don't think any of those really fall into disliked by fans outside of maybe Unleashed which has really gained a lot of fan support as time goes on.

>>8476 I've definitely seen Heroes get its fair share of hate, so I'd say that counts.

>>8470 What about games that you don't like that other fans love?

>>8480 I dislike Generations and hate Colors but most people seem to love them. I'll never understand the appeal

>>8481 Too cute.

>>8462 >He's trying to prove his is the real one Because Metal clearly had screws loose in that one. After gaining all of his powers plus that of his team mates' along with Chaos and Shadow's, his ego swelled up to unbelievable heights. He usurped Eggman and proclaimed himself an Overlord-the real question to me how is how exactly Eggman upgraded/lost control of his A.I. in the first place. His motive for it was that he was tired of getting his ass kicked during the fight with Team Super.. Between Adventure and Shadow, we never got to see Eggman's reaction to the fates of Gamma and Beta, the former of which was then used to make knock off copies in his base. Then Shadow falls to Earth and only briefly and vaguely says that a robot was used to save him. No mention or scene shown whether this was on the way back to Earth or if he found Shadow planted in the ground somewhere similar to how Sonic survived in Unleashed. Finally he makes a super powerful robot (Omega) only to keep him stuck doing guard duty as he moves on to mass producing Shadow Androids. Though, whether or not he made that call, or if it was Metal disguised is unknown. >>8470 Eh, I like Fighters, if that counts.

>>8470 Sonic Unleashed and Mania.

>>8480 That would be Shadow the Hedgehog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwZiJapGI-o Huh. Neat.

>>8488 kek

>>8487 They said games that fans love, anon.

>>8491 It'll always live on, in our hearts

>>8491 We’re always at Pumpkin Hill.

>>8495 Old meme is old

Forgot if this was asked before, but what are your hopes for the upcoming Sonic film? >>8495 Buncha damn bullies.

>play Sonic World >try to drift >memory access violation Great game.

>>8499 Oof, I feel for ya. I've never been able to really get into Sonic World because of just how janky it could be. I hope World DX plays better

>No Fap November >Rouge is the Sonic Channel character this month It can't be a coincidence, can it?

>>8501 I dunno what you're talking about, anon. Surely it's just a coincidence by Sonic Channel. Surely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2dxd2X9a1k I still hate Kirk Shadow…

>>8503 He's improved compared to his earlier performances, but yeah, he is still a pretty mediocre Shadow. I don't know if it's the voice direction they have for him or what, but it's not working for me.

>>8504 Part him, part direction. There were some times where he sounded alright, but others where the voice really doesn't work.

>>8498 Pepsi is better than Coke. Just like Sonic is better than Shadow.

Morning, /sthg/! What's your favorite & least favorite Sonic theme?

>>8506 But that's wrong

>>8503 Same here. I really miss David Humphrey, he was a great Shadow. >>8508 >favorite Maybe the Zebrahead version of His World? >least favorite Not too big on Endless Possibility.

>>8508 Favorite: It Doesn't Matter SA1 version Least Favorite: Reach for the Stars if that counts

>>8508 >favorite Sonic Boom >least favorite It Doesn't Matter

Since the movie has finished filming and premieres in about 1 year, when can we expect a trailer? I'm just really starved for news.

It's been one year since Sonic Forces released.

>>8514 And the Sonic twitter will make no mention of it. That says it all.

>>8514 Can't believe it's been that long. I still haven't plated it.

>>8514 Reminder that we still have no sales numbers.

https://twitter.com/SumoDigitalLtd/status/1060177553078525952?s=19 H-huh

>>8519 That's a Yikes from me. So you're telling me SEGA literally can't afford to let Sumo have a decent amount of level designers work on your game, when this game was meant to come out next month? This shit is getting depressing, why is everything Sonic EXCEPT the Mario related project all getting budget cuts? Are they trying to repeat Sonic 06?

>>8519 Interesting, they must’ve really been set back more than we thought.

>>8519 >>8521 Why do they need more? The work for Sanic Racing should already be done and the designers freed up for new projects.

>>8525 But the game is set to be released in March of next year… If anything, this makes that change in release date more apparent…

>>8519 concern.jpg These sounds like rather core positions for games like TSR. Do you think TSR designers walked away?

>>8527 probably assigned to work on other projects. People keep saying Sumo is working on other games at the same time as TSR and they're understaffed

>>8528 >Tfw Team Sonic Racing is the 06 of the racing series

>>8529 Sumo wouldn't trash their reputation like that. They're smaller than Sega and couldn't survive something like that

>>8528 The people who worked on the previous Sonic Racing games are currently working on other projects, yeah. Not to mention, this project is also being worked on by a lot of newcomers. Truth be told, this delay may have saved this game from being an utter disaster. Or not, guess we'll see.

>>8531 Did we get any new Halloween Bump art?

>>8532 To my knowledge, nah. But we did get Bump/Bowsette art around September or early October.

Comfy Sonics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_-g8psfkD0

>>8535 >Debs Howard >Elfina Luk Well I've never seen them before, but I wish the two good luk

bumb

>>8537 Time for death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9z3bK1nQ_Y The only good thing half-decent about Colors.

>>8539 I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't like this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ME8ryPMJdE Incoming pic to this post

>>8541 It's weird seeing Crash and Sonic in the same place sometimes, but what's more interesting that I keep forgetting is how Crash is designed for the eastern audience.

Oh and btw, the video also has Iizuka state TSR takes place exclusively in the "Sonic Universe", so I guess the other games took place in the "Human World" if I'm not mistaken.

>>8543 But what about Rooftop Run? It's from Unleashed which has humans and it's also in TSR. This whole two worlds thing is so stupid

>>8544 It really is the dumbest thing.

>>8541 >In Team Sonic Racing, my favorite character to play is Shadow. I really like his car. After multiple conversations with the designers and multiple variations, we were able to come up with a design that I, as a car enthusiast, thought was cool. I think Iizuka still loves this franchise, but he's a little misguided and probably should have stayed a level designer. He doesn't seem like the right fit for the head of Sonic Team.

>>8546 Yeah, he's miles better than Kishimoto but it's not much of a big help when you're an obsessive Shadowfag. >>8544 Not to mention Big Boom Boo's house, which was the pyramid in SA2. I hope he meant Sonic universe as in not the crossover world of the All Star games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCS2AkHc1bw Now before people get miffy about this not being Sonic related, I just like to point out why I think Sonic fans like Sonic more than Mario at times, and this video to me shows why. Seeing characters like Peach have more than one emotion is just uncanny valley as fuck to me, and it made me realize, that's likely why Sonic and friends are so loved, their expressions and interactions allows people to just ignore the quality of Sonic's games, as long as the interactions are enjoyable. This is likely why people don't like Colors-Forces as much as past games in the series. So I hope they can change that for the better in future Sonic games.

>>8548 Yeah, basically. The characters are simple, but they have enough to them that I can't help but think about all sorts of interactions they can have with each other & it's part of the reason why I loved following the Archie/IDW comics & why I enjoyed the storytelling of SA1/SA2/Unleashed. Don't get me wrong, gameplay is absolutely important to me, but I'd be lying if I said that the characters haven't been a reason I've continued to follow Sonic.

you guys got some chao gardens?

>>8550 I got some Chao Gardens in SA1/2, but it's been quite some time since I've checked in on them.

Do you think the Classic/Modern divide was a mistake? Or was it necessary?

>>8552 I'd say it was both a mistake and unnecessary. It was fine as a one-time deal for Generations, but continuing it on with Forces was just retarded. Mania, as well, didn't need to be divided from the rest of the series as a "classic" game. It should have just been considered another Sonic game.

>>8552 It’s only a mistake to continue having them crossover like in Forces.

>>8552 It was a mistake. It worked in Generations where it seemed like Classic was just a younger version of Modern. Now it's two different characters and we have these separate branches and I'm always worried normies, especially clueless parents, are going to get confused and turned off from the series. Look at the Wii and Wii U. It's probably not that bad as that but still. The Classic/Modern split in the fanbase is also the worst it's ever been and there's no way both sides will be happy simultaneously. When one side gets more attention than the other, they panic and wonder if that side is being axed. It's awful.

>>8552 I think it's a great idea. Trying to appeal to fans of both styles at the same time was not going to make anyone happy pretty much ever. I think they're better separated, but that doesn't mean the execution is going to be great, as usual.

>>8551 Would a feature like in some other games where time still moves forward even if you're not actually playing in the Chao Garden at the moment work?

>>8552 I think it's nessary. As much as it could have been seen as "Sonic Advance 4" for Mania, the point is people like how Sonic looked and behaved before the Modern shift, and I think pandering to that is completely justifed, as LONG as the Modern side is just as good. NSMB is a prime example of what NOT to do, because if it was more like Mario Maker for the start, it would have been better recieved longterm. 2D Mario doesn't really hold a cord to the point of 3D Mario, and having 2D represent the classic era makes the point having it 2D make more sense since every 2D Mario game before NSMB looked like sprite based games. Here's another example, Sonic 4. Even with Classic Sonic models, Classic Sonic is a 90s product and is remembered better in 2D. Modern works better for 3D, that's the point of his redesign. The entire problem that people don't realize is that 2D Classic and 3D Modern doesn't matter if either project is just low quality garbage, which both eras have, but 3D had it longer, hence all the bias against it. Both being their own things would work perfectly fine, however, the way SEGA op'd to handle it is just retarded and made things worse, like, how they handle Sonic anyways since the 90s. The best way they could have deal with this is just say >Every Classic Sonic game takes place before Sonic Adventure 1 And that would just be enough for it to not cause mass confusion like it does now. If it doesn't fit with the establish timeline Adventure forward had, just call it non canon, like we did just fine with Sonic the Fighters or Knuckles' Chaotix.

>>8555 >When one side gets more attention than the other, they panic and wonder if that side is being axed. It's awful. The only reason that's an argument is A: You're talking about the only place that shitposting started from; 4/sthg/, and B: BOTH eras need quality controlled games, and only one side really shines over the other, which ISN'T because it's before the Adventure era. If Modern Sonic was Unleashed quality with better ideas and Classic stayed Mania styled, no one has any right to bitch.

>>8559 >but 3D had it longer, hence all the bias against it. 3D has never had a game that could be considered fantastic, either. I'm not as hard on the 3D titles as a lot of people, but, until Colors, each and every one had at least a few heavy flaws, and Colors always stayed a middling "good", never really getting "great". Generations almost had it, but ended up botching things with a lot of stage environment picks, the absolute mess of a final boss, and being as long as Sonic 2, not counting the extra challenges. The classic gameplay, ironically, also ended up bogging it down, somewhat. Meanwhile, S2, 3, and &K are all light on obvious flaws, while being pretty good in every general facet. You're also forgetting that all the lowest points of the series, game-wise, have been 3D or heavily attributed to modern Sonic. Classic had some stinkers, but none as awful as the likes of '06.

>>8561 Colors is not good. The level design and physics are on par with Sonic 4. People only like it because it wasn't Sonic 06 or the Werehog.

>>8561 This just cements my point that having the era's split is only as bad as it gets because one side is being favored over the other, and just giving Modern Sonic classic gameplay isn't going to make it suddenly better if the point of 3D Sonic's design was tailored for 3D gameplay. Like you said, Modern Sonic's highest point was Adventure 2's 89 metascore, compared to 3-4 2D entries being 90s+ and besides Mania, these are scores nearly 20 years ago. Then you wonder why so many non Sonic fans shit all over the series, being stuck in 80s hell then shoved ever further in the depths of it with 50s scores isn't going to paint Sonic a good image anywhere you go. Have a average of upper 80s and 90s is the only way today's gamer market would stop shitposting about games being shit just because it's not "prefect" despite no game ever got 100 literally everywhere and by everyone on the planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhhNCbpHWHQ

>>8567 Fucking awesome. I'm really, really hoping this project sees completion one day.

>>8552 Unnecessary. Classic Sonic and the original Sonic concepts were fine the way they were and struck a good chord in a lot of people. Sega has forgotten a lot of what they build Sonic's image upon and it makes it the confused, directionless mess it is today. But besides that, what I'm getting to saying is, Classic and Modern should not be a split and they shouldn't be different universes to begin with. There are a lot of things amazing with the Classic iteration of Sonic, and a lot of things that are good with the Modern iteration of Sonic. If you ask me, the Adventure reboot was nonsense, getting rid of half the original cast, and re-working the frame structure of the cast and setting to nearly unrecognizable levels when people LOVED it the way it was was bullshit. Classic & Modern should be a thing at the same time, with the Classic aesthetics, tone, setting, ect taking the dominant force.

this will end it

If you were in charge of a Sonic comics or cartoons series how would you write the following characters: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Honey, Tiara, Blaze, Sticks, Rouge, Shadow, Omega, Mighty, Ray, Fang, Bean, Bark, Big, Cream, the Freedom Fighters, Manic, Sonia

>>8576 Depends, I can use any setting I want? If so, I'd probably make something similar to Post-SGW Archie. >>8552 I can get the logic behind it, in that there's so many fans who likes Sonic for different reasons & SEGA wants to appeal to them, but all the same, it's not something that really needed to happen. There's definitely still a place for the Classic tone, setting, aesthetic, etc. in the series & there's still a place for the Modern tone, setting, aesthetic for the franchise. Like >>8559 they could've just set games like Mania as taking place before Sonic Adventure & any title that may contradict the Modern games can just be considered "non-canon," if canon still matters to SEGA.

>>8575 nerd hog Also, Sonic Forces OST now on Spotify https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1060958628931264512?s=19

>>8578 whaaaaa the Sonic Twitter actually said something about Forces? wow

>>8577 yes

>>8578 I should give my Forces vinyl another listen.

>>8581 Did you buy it because you liked Forces' soundtrack that much or just because of collecting?

>>8579 Only because he had too. Gotta shill to keep papa SEGA happy.

>>8584 I love these Sonics. I love this one more tho

>>8582 Probably more on the side of collecting. I think it's cool to have Sonic soundtracks on vinyl, hence why I got the Mania and SA1&2 vinyls as well.

I replayed SA2B and Sonic Mania last month and I enjoyed SA2B more. Can we still be friends

>>8588 I enjoyed Mania more but I like both games, so yeah. But what did you think of the two titles?

>>8588 That depends on why you enjoyed it more.

>>8589 they're both good >>8590 it was more fun

I guess I just have bad taste in games

>>8591 Well, that's respectable. Taste in vidya's subjective anyways, so I'm not gonna attack anyone or liking something

>>8591 But why did you find it more fun?

Which do you prefer?

>>8595 The second one >>7844 Here's a picture of it

>>8596 Is it a fun pinball machine?

>>8597 I'm not necessarily a fan of pinball unless its spinball, but my friend enjoys it

>>8599 Why is Sonic painting with honey?

>>8600 Artistic expresion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmk9EswAO_A >3:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpcXB3ZYn7c

>>8604 What is Knuckles gonna do with Bump?

>>8605 Teach her to box.

>>8605 hump and pump that rump

Who's the most underrated Sonic character?

>>8610 What is Metal complaining about?

>>8595 Huh, how lazy of them to reuse the picture. As for which one I prefer… I don't know, both are great. I want to say second because the colors aren't so saturated, but in general I like more the first style.

>>8614 Wait, the left came first? I thought that was fan art. But then again, it weirdly looks reminiscent for some reason.

What are our thoughts on the Sonic Storybook Series?

>>8616 Secret Rings' gameplay is pretty bad. You get abilities and upgrades and can change the way Sonic handles but it takes so long to get to a point where he actually feels fun to control. And even then, the game's still not very fun to play. Black Knight starts off with Sonic controlling easily like this but again, it's just not that fun. Honestly, the gameplay isn't horrible but it's just not that fun to play. It's like Forces to me. It's not bad. Just mediocre and not fun. Everything else about Black Knight is great though. The setting, story, the music, etc. even the voice acting too. I like to pretend it's a movie instead of a game. It's much more enjoyable that way.

>>8616 Secret Rings has absolutely shit controls, but the setting and music are pretty damn good. The story had potential, but it was executed pretty poorly. Black Knight, on the other hand, can be pretty fun, as well as having great music, a fun setting, and a pretty good story by Sonic standards. It also did multiple playable characters very well, something 3D Sonics tended to struggle with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJn2bfjB8yc I officially prefer the Jun Senoue version of Roof Top Run

>>8595 I don't like the pose or expression she's conveying, looks like an anime character

>>8620 You mean the japanese cartoon character looks like a japanese cartoon character? You have wonderful powers of observation.

>>8621 You do know Sonic and co are heavily based on western designs and western cartoons, right? It looks hideously stupid when they behave too much like 2010s anime.

>>8622 Never in my life have I seen such an avid anti weeaboo. Just ignore it plz if it triggers you, it's just a drawing.

>>8615 Oh wait, given the filename that might be possible! I thought it was Adventure artwork because of the coloring.

>>8624 It does look like an Adventure-era pic, but it's probably just fanart. If so, that's a pretty solid recreation of the SA style.

>>8626 I am really looking forward to what type of Christmas fanart people will make this year. Just something about Sonic Christmas stuff I really love

>>8623 I'm not an anti weeaboo, I just don't like it for Sonic – grow up.

>>8622 You do know Sonic and co still have their roots in Japanese character design and cartoons, especially after Adventure, right? Sonic has been anime as fuck since the late 90s, even earlier if you ask certain people.

>>8630 >2010s anime >2010s anime >2010s anime What you posted is a trope from 80s-90s anime, it's perfectly fine. 2010's anime is less mainstream than those for a reason. >Japanese character design and cartoons, It's 80% western though.

>>8631 It's like 40% western, at most. Japan came up with the original design, then argued with SoA until they came up with a compromise to help appeal to a western audience. Even then, SoA modified the design for in all the franchise's western media, changing the spines into a mohawk configuration, among other slight details. And the western compromise only really applies to Sonic. The mecha design is incredibly Japanese, for instance.

>>8632 >It's like 40% western, at most. No, it's not. 80%. >Japan came up with the original design Just because Japan came up with the original design doesn't mean the design philosophy and cues its based on isn't Western as fuck. Are Felix the Cat and the other cartoon animals Sonic resembles aren't Western because the Japanese decided to get "inspired" by it now? >then argued with SoA until they came up with a compromise to help appeal to a western audience. Even then, SoA modified the design for in all the franchise's western media, changing the spines into a mohawk configuration, among other slight details. And the western compromise only really applies to Sonic kek what does that have to do with anything, what stylistic choices were made to edit individual traits of the character =/= the whole design and the entire concept of "funny animals" and shape and aspects its composed of, which is western. Mohawk SoA Sonic was influenced by 1980s/1990s disney shit while early Japanese sonic resembles 1920s-1950s cartoons with some 90s anime inclinations and influences here and there. If you studied animation history you would know this.

>>8633 If Sonic is 80% because the design is inspired by old western animation, then Astro Boy is also 80% western, by that logic.

>>8634 >inspired No, it's a straight up lift. >then Astro boy is also 80% western Yes? It's almost like.. that's how designs and stylistic choices work.. wow. Totally Spies and the puffy Amu show is a strongly Japanese style despite being Western creations too, fyi.

>>8635 Okay, you seem very ignorant of one key fact. Japanese cartoons stem from western ones. Both modern day western cartoons and modern day Japanese cartoons share the same origin. After Japan lost WW2 and the U.S. occupied it, they saw our cartoons and decided they were pretty neat, so they started making their own. So, while Sonic's design was based on art styles from cartoons like Felix and Mickey, that still puts him closer to old Japanese animation than to western animation of the late 80s and early 90s. You can even see this in the DiC cartoons, where the game Sonic characters have distinctly different design principles from the characters original to the cartoons, when the game characters aren't radically changed, like Eggman. To say Sonic is 80% western is to say a Big Mac is 80% German.

>>8637 I wonder what grade he got for it

>>8636 >Japanese cartoons stem from western ones. Yes, I know that. >Both modern day western cartoons and modern day Japanese cartoons share the same origin. Yes. >After Japan lost WW2 and the U.S. occupied it, they saw our cartoons and decided they were pretty neat, so they started making their own. Yes. >So, while Sonic's design was based on art styles from cartoons like Felix and Mickey, that still puts him closer to old Japanese animation than to western animation of the late 80s and early 90s Because old Japanese animation was very derivative of Western animation at the time, and MOST 80s and 90s Western animation was a victim of "Disneyizing" which made the style more uniform and imo, ugly. Basically you're just proving my point. My man, if someone steals your idea and uses it, it's not suddenly their idea. It's still the other person you stole it from idea. I don't get your logic. >You can even see this in the DiC cartoons, where the game Sonic characters have distinctly different design principles from the characters original to the cartoons, when the game characters aren't radically changed, like Eggman ..Because it's Disney. Yo, Disney is not the only style for Western animation and there have been several styles, Japanese animation was derivative of the early styles before Disney became the dominant one. Why do you people think Early Western animation and style somehow doesn't count?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKLSpdJPEaA Fucking epic as fuck

>>8641 >everyone is here >except the ones that we're holding off to make into dlc

So, did anyone here attend the Sonic FanJam convention? I know one anon from 4/sthg/ did & got some really cool shit, but I wonder if you guys went.

>>8643 It's on the other side of the continent for me.

>>8643 Didn't even know there was a convention going on. I think someone here said they were going, but I dunno if they went or are still here.

Looking at the booru, I'm digging the amount of new Bumps & Sages being made. Mostly NSFW, but there's some neat new SFW ones too. >>8645 Yeah, it was done in GA & had a lot of the Archie/IDW people attending. Pretty cool if someone from here went.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQZQ9XWjHIs How does one make Forces worse than it is? Re add in the stages it was modded from in the first place.

>>8647 Why would anyone do this?

>>8640 Goddamn it. If this is a pun…

>>8649 It's Sonic, working at Sonic!

>>8649 >>8650 It only makes sense that Sonic works at place that serves fast food.

It is time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BGuQmiD84w

>>8654 Damn, this looks really sweet.

>>8641 Those CGIs need more work.

Just sharing something from something I'm working on. Enjoy.

>>8659 That's a really good looking Sonic, anon.

>>8659 I like it, even though I'm generally more of a fan of more on model Sonics. Thanks for sharing anon. What's that thing you're working on? I'm curious now.

>>8660 Good stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra7oCfJGcG8 A: As much as I hate ShTH, I think this makes far more sense than Sand Hill zone. But of course, it's because it was half ass DLC to pander to Shadowfags instead of effort is why we got such trash in the first place. B: I actually starting to like this Rouge's voice, but only here. When she sounds like a pornstar thot like in Generations and at the ending of Forces, it's cancer. When she sounds like a normal woman, it's nice hearing her. It's not SA2 good though, but it's something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx90TMgFv94 I never knew there were vocals for this song. This really gives me Devil May Cry vibes from this now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1roy4o4tqQM So with is as a comparison, how badly will Sonic look? I don't know if this is bad for Sonic or good.

>>8665 Jesus Christ, how horrifying

>>8665 honestly I thought the trailer was pretty good. The CGI is kind of hit or miss though. The Pokemon that don't have fur look great. The furry ones not so much. They just look off especially since in the games they're never rendered with fur. They're just solid objects. I really want to like Pikachu but it just looks weird. Whether or not Sonic will look better or worse probably all comes down to what they're doing with his proportions and fur. Will he be fluffy/fuzzy like Pikachu? Or will they go for thin/fine fur kind of like a thin fleece blanket? Or will they just avoid fur altogether like in the Wreck It Ralph movie? Thin/no fur would probably be best. As for proportions, they mentioned wanting him to look more realistic. They might make him more childish looking or hedgehog-like and that could really ruin things.

>>8667 > Or will they go for thin/fine fur kind of like a thin fleece blanket? Like Unleashed? Then yes, please do this Honestly I actually find Pikachu cute somehow, but the other examples based on your post I feel the same honestly.

>>8668 I think Pikachu looks great when his mouth is open and he's moving around. The only thing that really bothers me is the mouth when it's closed. It just looks really weird. Like it's TOO realistic and it's trying to be an animal mouth and a human mouth at the same time.

>>8669 Yeah, I think I get what you mean

>>8670 what a strange cartoon

do we need a new thread

>>8672 We hit the bump limit, but we're still at the top of the board. I guess you can make a new thread, if you want.

>>8672 >>8674 I honestly don't get why we don't wait until the image limit is hit. This board doesn't move fast enough for the general to die before that.

>>8665 Oh no. Oh god who thought this was okay. WHY

>>8668 >Like Unleashed? I don't remember Unleashed Sonic having any kind of fur. Do you mean that texture they started using that's kind of like wood grain?

>>8677 It was more like a sheen coat like horse mane instead of fur, and god damn I wished it just could look that this in games instead of what you're describing, which they've started doing with Colors onward.

>>8678 Comparison

>>8678 The Unleashed design is still a high-tier look for Modern Sonic.

>>8678 Definitely not as awkward as >>8679 but it doesn't look much like anything to me. >>8680 Absolutely!

>>8680 >High tier It's Elder God tier. Literally nothing has topped it to this day, and god I wished they just accepted they fucked up with the HE2 and just recreate the HE1 more accurately for modern tech, because it was the most SOUL in 3D Sonic since SA2 just doing what it could on Saturn hardware.

>>8684 >Saturation of colors: Gone >Ambient Occlusion shadows: Gone It's the little details that make Generations look worse than Unleashed but not as noticeable to most people not paying attention. If you saw Unleashed real time and Generations real time next to each other on the same stages, you'd see that slight difference that just makes the work put into Unleashed feel disrespectful.

>>8685 *disrepected

>>8685 >>8684 >>8683 I can understand why SEGA might've felt like the HE needed to be updated, but it's very odd that the HE2 took 3 years to develop & Forces still looks behind Unleashed & even Generations. Even the most recent M&S game (which used a proto-HE 2) has some moe detail to it than parts of Forces, so I dunno if it's the people working on it or what.

>>8687 I'm pretty sure it's the people working on it, especially whoever's in charge of art direction. Forces probably could be a really beautiful game but they decided to make everything overly cartoony looking and use lots of neon and bold colors. None of these things would be a problem if they were used well. And somehow despite working on the lighting engine for 3 years, some of the cutscenes don't render shadows for any of the characters like the cutscene with Sonic and Shadow. It's baffling

>>8688 >they decided to make everything overly cartoony looking and use lots of neon and bold colors. That actually reminded of a interview done for Forces where someone (I forgot who, I wanna say Iizuka or Nakamura) mentioned that Forces was supposed to have a look that "combines the more detailed look of Generations with the cartoony look of Lost World," which probably explains a lot. LW's art direction wasn't the worst thing ever, but that game's visuals was not something that was really fitting of the tone Forces was seemingly going for.

>>8691 Sonic characters & Pocky makes for some cute art.

>>8692 Would you share Pocky with Sonic?

>>8688 Forces honestly looked horrible. It was so clearly rushed, and the art direction certainly didn't help. The next Sonic game will most likely be in either 2019 or 2021 (they commented that they've already started working on it) and hopefully Sonic Team will have had the time to make proper use of the HE2. Maybe we'll finally get a game that looks as good as Unleashed.

>>8693 Absolutely. Also, for some reason there's a giant Sonic statue sitting on top of a building in China.

>>8695 I've always loved how big and accurate that statue is. Most other Sonic statues aren't anywhere near this accurate, not even the ones that Sega uses in conventions.

>>8695 I want it

>>8697 I want to hug it

>>8695 Stupid lucky China Iizuka did say they wanted the China audience with Forces, so I guess they didn't mind Forces all too much. Hopefully we all get a better game to wow them even more over Sonic than whatever Forces may have did.

>>8699 I think that statue is pretty old, nothing to do with Forces. Also, the least I'd want is the Chinese coming close and influencing the franchise.

>>8700 I don't know enough about the tastes of Chinese fans to know the pros and cons of SEGA throwing them more bones. What makes you think it'd be a bad thing?

>>8701 Chinese fans will attract the attention of Chinese companies and goverment, and I remember reading some awful shit about their plans for entertainment. Tencent comes to mind.

>>8701 >What makes you think it'd be a bad thing? Have you seen China's influence on the industry? Have you seen their playerbase? There's a reason every big AAA publisher wants the Chinese audience, and there's a reason every single game that's opened its servers to China has subsequently had players begging to have the Chinese cordoned off to their own servers.

>>8700 It's inevitable. China's middle class is growing like crazy and a lot of people have tons of disposable income there now. Not everyone of course but definitely more than ever. >>8701 it's a bad not just because of what >>8702 said but because their tastes are a lot different than the West. I'm generalizing and stereotyping but a lot of people there value spectacle over substance. They're happy to shell out money for things that look nice, have a fancy brand name attached, are made by a foreign company, etc. even if the product is bad. I'm aware people in other countries do this too (see Apple fanboys, etc.) but it seems even more commonplace in China and they have that massive growing middle class which makes it somewhat of a problem.

>>8705 >I'm generalizing and stereotyping but a lot of people there value spectacle over substance. >In the good timeline, this could mean Unleashed tier graphics with Night of the Werehog tier passion and quality control, with Utopia/Islands based gameplay for the rest of the world wanting good gameplay more than anything >In the bad timeline, this just means we'd get Sonic 06 tier cancer just so the CGI moments look like Final Fantasy ripoffs Why do I know we are heading into the latter timeline based on that news? China is notorious for literal stealing of others IPs, and not because they care about the gameplay. If they don't care about gameplay, why would SEGA?

>>8706 Wait, how do we even know China is going to get involved in this franchise or influence it in any way?

>>8707 Nice try China.

>>8707 not that anon but we don't. I do think it's worth talking about though. Gaming is getting huge in China and developers want to make money on that. It makes sense for Sega to want to as well. Japan also doesn't like Sonic that much. The sales in the US and Europe since after Generations have only been okay. The next few games won't have the incredible hype Mania did and might not sell as well. The movie, which Sega said was their "plan for revitalizing the franchise," might also bomb. If this all happens, I could see Sega trying to win over the Chinese audience. Gaming there is growing. People have lots of disposable income. There aren't too many cutesy mascot games for Sonic to compete with thanks to console sales being banned until 2015 and Nintendo screwing up with the Switch there.

>>8709 It's a very smart idea now that you explained it, but at the same time, it's SEGA. The worse thing that could come from this is if the Chinese liking Sonic in a way that everyone else doesn't prefer him, it's not like this problem hasn't gone away or anything. If only we knew if the Chinese liked Mania or at least games like Unleashed/Gens, then we'd know where to go from here.

>>8709 >Gaming there is growing. And it's going to stop once China starts deducting good person points for playing video games too much.

>>8711 But what if the games have pro-governement/culture/"moral" propaganda in them? What if they receive good person points instead

>>8707 Anons are mainly guessing, but many forms of entertainment have been trying to make inroads in China from big industries like movies, to niche industries like wrestling. It's probably only a matter of time before SEGA tries their hand at trying to garner a Chinese fanbase for their games & it would be interesting to see if they can get a Chinese Sonic fanbase. I wonder what type of Sonic they would even like.

>>8714 A Sonic that supports the government!

>>8714 Would Chinese fans be allowed to make their own OC?

>>8716 Did Forces release in China?

It's time to sleep /sthg. Go to bed.

>>8718 Night, anon

>>8718 >>8719 Sleep tight, hoggos.

Morning, ./sthg/

>>8721 Morning anon. Damn, I need to grab me some coffee now.

Have you ever held or touched a real hedgehog, /fast/?

>>8723 Don't think I've ever seen one in person.

>>8723 Sadly no, but they look like cute creatures. I wish there was more Sonic/real hedgehog pics

>>8723 Nope, but I kinda want to.

>>8723 yes. One of my friends used to own one. She was cute and felt prickly

When and how did you discover 4/sthg/ and when did you start coming here?

>>8728 When it was created and posted in a /v/ thread. Was there from the beginning. This place has had many iterations, but I’ve browsed here for however long it’s been up, even though it didn’t have much activity for a long time.

>>8728 Since it started, and since there were too many shitposters and raging autists for me to bear.

>>8728 I have to admit, I have only been to this /sthg/ for the past few months and have never seen the 4/sthg/. Before 8chan became a thing I had kind of taken a break from imageboards, with the last time I was really into them was on 7chan back when 7track was a thing (so I am used to the slow pace, though last I looked at 7chan it was a graveyard) I do know that for a while there was another Sonic board here, /sth/ I think, that I am pretty sure is now gone. Did anyone here ever go to it?

>>8728 I started using 4/sthg/ around 2016, but I came to /fast/ around 2017. I mostly lurked though & only started posting frequently shortly before the creation of this /sthg/. >>8731 I know of /sth/ but yeah, it's basically dead. The board is up but no one has posted there in ages.

>>8731 I did. It had some activity at some point, but I never understood how that happened since this place was better known but was dead at the time. I always found that kind of suspicious. They had a mascot named Edgehog (>>1525) and I think the BO must have been a drawfag of some sort since someone was doing a bunch of pics of him. Eventually it died because of slow.

>>8731 Yeah, I went to /sth/. I thought the little mascot they had was cute. Was a shame it died too.

>>8731 >have never seen the 4/sthg/. What do you think of Bump and Sage and who is best mascot? This is important.

>>8733 Looking at it, it seems like the original BO doesn't even own /sth/ anymore. Someone took it over in June '17 & the board is still dead.

>>8728 >When and how did you discover 4/sthg/ Mania threads on 4/v/ >and when did you start coming here? One month ago, after all the shitposters killed it.

>>8737 From what I remember, TC took over /sth/ as well as here.

>>8739 Huh. I knew TC came here, but didn't know he claimed the board. Interesting.

>>8733 I actually knew of /sth/ before /fast/ because I think Edgehog was both a drawfag and the BO and he would shill the board in Sonic threads and drawthreads on /v/ (maybe also on /co/ in Sonic comic threads). I remember searching for Sonic in the board list and being surprised there was more than 1 Sonic board on the site and at the time /sth/ was faster and I thought this board was dead. I was hoping for something a bit faster so I didn't really go to it, but it's kind of a shame because I liked Edgehog's art and I don't know if he moved on to another site or just stopped drawing. >>8735 Bump & Sage are top tier! I am the one who drew that goth Bump here a few generals ago. (end of September beginning of October) and I did a sketch of Bump and Sage with ice cream. I should draw Sage again. Bump is a qt, but with so many characters in the Sonic series having really bright optimistic personalities, I really enjoy the more pessismistic/antagonistic attitude of Sage. Couldn't pick a favorite. I looked through the booru and saw there is also a Bait the Beta, but I have never seen her posted here. >>8737 I am surprised someone took it over. More surprised it still exists as I thought it was dead before Infinity.next was finally put in the ground and was lost in a migration that pruned a lot of unclaimed boards.

>>8741 It seems like /sth/ did die, as almost all of the posts on that board are from 2017 & none from before last year. Thinking about it, I also remember there being an /sthg/ on this chan's /vg/ that's been going for about 4 years now.

Do you guys like /fast/?

>>8743 It's a pretty comfy board, yeah. It's a pretty great place to just sit & chill while talking about Sonic.

>>8743 Yes, it's nice. I like that we have new posts regularly and that it hasn't completely died off, even if it's pretty slow overall. Would like it to be a bit faster, though, specially when I'm bored at work.

>>8741 >Bump & Sage are top tier! >I am the one who drew that goth Bump here a few generals ago You're okay.

>>8741 Bait was kind of born as a joke if I remember correctly. There was a huge shitstorm when she was created since a lot of people thought two OCs were more than enough, so she's not here nor there.

>>8728 Early 2017 when I finally decided to check out 4chan. Went on /vg/, searched up "Sonic" and there it was. I first started posting here in late 2017, but I only visited this place once a month or so since it was so slow. I've been checking /fast/ once a day now that it's picked up. I still spend the majority of my time posting on 4/sthg/ though, as I like the format of 4ch more and the place is much faster.

>>8728 I discovered 4/sthg/ shortly after I made >>1518, and I still barely visit that place And I discovered /fast/ shortly before I made >>992, or at least I think so

>>8743 Yeah! Part of me wishes it could be a bit faster, but at the same time how much is there to talk about at the moment? It really is a double edge sword when it comes to growing the community though. It was cool to win the attention-hungry games, but at the same time I was surprised how many people came and replied to absolutely ancient threads and less surprised by how many just shitposted. Is there anyone here now who found out about the board through the attention games link like a week ago? >>8747 Thanks. I have been meaning to draw more, so I may try putting more stuff in the drawthread. I tried drawing Cream with the oekaki feature in the drawthread earlier. >>8748 I just figured I didn't see her here because we don't have enough posters to be worth bait posting I still might try drawing her though.

>>8751 Yeah, it's hard to make this place go faster when there isn't that much going on right now. I hope we can keep this place going long enough to get some substantial news to discuss.

>>8753 I imagine we will. The year's almost over & 2019 will likely be a newsworthy year for the series.

>>8754 Let's hope so. And let's hope it's good news too.

>>8755 Well, the movie is probably gonna put a damper on things, but I still hope for the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYVWvu-jCGg Is he right? >That Classic Sonic at 1:15 I'm actually mad looking at that.

>>8758 This is fine because it's not lanky looking.

>>8759 Not that anon, but I can see what you mean. I don't now why, but the proportions in the video was pretty off-putting to me, but the pics anon posted fits pretty well.

>>8728 4/sthg/? 2016 after getting into Sonic again. Came here after 4/sthg/ got worse.

New thread >>8763 >>8763 >>8763