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diabetes thread /fit/izen 09/09/2023 (Sat) 23:20:24 Id: eb4d0d No. 165
Is there anyway to reverse diabetes? either type1 or type 2. Are there any resources to help diabetics with lifting, diet and cardio?
If you got the auto-immune one where your body is eating up your Islets of Langerhans or whatever I think you're kind of up shit creek without a paddle. There is probably some experimental procedure out there where they use mRNA or some other vehicle to carry a gene modifying payload that will make your endangered cells display the right antigen tag to call off your white blood cells but damned if I know if that even exists. If you've got the one that comes from being a lazy fatass that eats too much and doesn't exercise enough then if you start eating better (ie foods with low glycemic index in reasonable amounts) and working out to lose the weight you can sometimes get it to where it can be managed with diet alone. You're still going to want to carry emergency insulin and a quick source of sugar just in case but you won't need to be constantly pricking yourself. A lot of times with the acquired kind it is a case of insulin insensitivity with your body getting so big you can't produce enough insulin to cover it so losing the weight helps a lot.
>>165 Ya its called google
>>165 You can be a type 2 diabetic and reverse it completely by just cutting out shit. Basically start no-carb, then slowley add vegatables, and limit starchy foods, and fruit to under 50g of carbs. I personally have experience this. Type 1 diabetics can live off the meds, but I don't expect anybody to have the discipline for this. Though if you did, you would have to just cut out carbs to about under 50g a day, of unproccessed complex carbs, from fiber rich plants. No bread, no candy, no high starch foods, stuff like that.
>>165 As others have said, Type 2 can be if it's brought on by weight gain and truckloads of sugar consumption. If that's the case, just lose the weight fatass. Cut out sugar. Consider keto. Lots of diabetics I know do keto. Hit the gym. Track your calories. If you can get down to a normal weight then you'll probably be fine.
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>>186 >Type 1 diabetics can live off the meds I guess you mean type 2 because type 1 is the kind where the pancreas cannot produce insulin so they need to use exogenous insulin. And regarding the type 2 variant it is theoretically possible to reverse the periphereal insulin resistance by reducing the high intake of carbs, getting into ideal body weight and increasing physical activity.
>>733 Low carb works for both. What happens to the insulin need when you don't carbs at all?
>>738 Surely it helps the keep an eye in both types of diabetes but the fundamental difference between those two is that type 1 is basically an insulin deficiency due the destruction of beta cells in the pancreas (those produce the insulin) while type two is more related with the resistance of insulin in the tissues of the body. Besides that, you shouldn't eliminate carbs completely out of your diet since they are the main source that the body use for energy. What you should do is to limited the consumption of refined carbs and choice those with low glycemic index and high nutritious values.
>>165 Tomato soup and nothing else for atleast 30 days.
>>186 this KETO Study #1: Keto (No Control) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1325029/ In 2005, researchers gathered 28 overweight patients with type 2 diabetes and placed them on a ketogenic diet with fewer than 20 g of carbs per day. Seven patients dropped out; 21 completed the 16 week study. Those who completed it had great results: Body weight dropped by 6.6%, almost 20 pounds. HbA1c dropped by 16%. Triglycerides dropped by 42%. Ten patients reduced their medications. Seven dropped them entirely. In only 16 weeks. Study #2: Low-Glycemic vs. Keto (Patients Who Were Obese and Had Type 2 Diabetes) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19099589 In another study, researchers directly compared keto to low-glycemic/carb. They took 84 obese patients with type 2 diabetes, randomly assigned them to either a ketogenic diet or a low-glycemic diet, and tracked their progress over 24 months. What happened? Low-calorie group: 16% reduction in fasting glucose 6.9 kg bodyweight loss 0.5 reduction in HbA1c Keto group: 20% reduction in fasting glucose 11.1 kg bodyweight loss 1.5 reduction in HbA1c Study #3: Low-Calorie vs. Keto (Patients Who Were Obese) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22673594 Another study compared keto to low-calorie in obese patients, about a third of whom had diabetes. This time, the patients got to choose the diet that most appealed to them. So, it wasn’t random, but it was closer to how diets work in the real world. Both groups improved markers of glucose control and metabolic health, but the keto group saw greater improvements on every single marker measured: Blood lipids Body weight Waist circumference HbA1c Blood glucose Uric acid Urea Creatinine
>>165 >Ching chang i have diabetes >give me kiss >give me your yummy yummy sugar >oh yes sticky
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I am 32 years old living in Sweden and have type-1 diabetes since I was 19. For the past 2 years I have tried out intermittent fasting (16:8 and 23:1) and prolonged fasting (24-72h) in combination with keto diet (periodically with keto and periodically more "normal" food.) January 2018 i decided to go all in with 1 meal per day. Gradually I could remove more and more insuline which I think may be my insuline resistance going away. I feel better. My doctor is happy with my results. I lost 25kg in 5 months. 100kg -> 75kg. I still weight 75kg a year later. 2 years ago I injected 75-85 units of insuline per day and was overweight. Now I inject 20-35 units per day. All my blood work is a lot better. Previously I have tried a lot of things. lots of cardio. lots of gym training and different diets. But the KEY for me was to reduce the amount of meals. If I went for 3 or 4 meals per day I still had to inject a big amount of insuline in total for that day. If I eat the same amount of food but during a short window of hours per day I can reduce the total insuline that day by ~50%.
>>173 Taking advice from sponsored Google results (6 to 11 servings of bread per day, avoid red meat, etc) will give you diabetes. Fuck yourself.
>>746 whoa!!! so you are suggesting that 1large meal > several small meals? WTF, I used to do that… one large meal, and now Im used to 3-4 small meals a day; fuck this shit.
>>165 https://youtu.be/YpllomiDMX0 6 part series by Dr Jason Fung TL:DW low carb, intermittent fasting
>>748 There's some downsides. If you have carbs, you can overload your body and cause an insulin spike. If you're doing a single big meal, be sure to eat the carbs last and try to look for something that has a lower insulin response. Brown rice, pasta, etc, is going to be better than white bread or even a potato. There is another downside, which is protein intake. If you're lifting, getting protein 2-3 times per day is better than a single large spike. Your body can only absorb so much in a period of time. I'd at least recommend having a protein bar or something as a mid-day snack if your protein requirements demand it.


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