>>210 Would you provide a free link to one of John Kreiter's relevant works, or at least something about Soul Recovery?

>>212 No. I won’t do you the disservice of spoon feeding you. Get your shit together.

>>210 >>211 Well said >This is probably nothing new for most people reading this True but it's always good to repeat truth via different words. It just signals to others that they are not alone with these truths and makes them aware that this is something well known for others too who walk the path. Tho I never read Kreiter's books because I figured these out while working on my energy body. It was weird learning that my fetishes were about the desire to retain different types of energy work techniques and not exactly about the desire to wallow in filth like most fetishes make people behave >>213 While what he said was mean >>212 You need to learn to put effort into fixing yourself because getting spoonfed has a side effect that you will just save the book and not read it then move on with your life. Books are not the answer but working yourself is and even if you read a book you might not get it until enough energy builds up for an 'Eureka moment'. You will need to understand the desire to work on yourself and the desire to improve... the desire of understanding what it means to be >becoming whole or whole-er. And if your element (Akasha) is not working then use libgen soulseek or different search engines jeez. It's important to learn to develop other internet skills besides looking at porn.

Back to square one. I keep hurting myself. I don't have any major stressors and my only goal is to be healthier in my living. I don't want to fuck up again.

>>378 I thinkI should point out in this thread an often overlooked but crucial part of this. Otherwise, at best, the energy you retain will just stagnate. Learn to move energy effectively, and as soon as you have an erection, move the energy up your central channel. When you reach the top of your chest, move it over to your front and down into your dan tian. If you do this correctly, your erection will go away and your penis will “retract”, as the Chinese put it. You should be able to get an erection back right as soon as you stop, and repeat the operation over and over. You will notice that it gets more difficult as you go on, until all the lust is gone. Never use porn, and never ejaculate to a fantasy. As soon as you have an erection, your attention should be 100% focused on moving the energy. And you should keep summoning your erection back until you have relocated enough energy that it won’t come back to bother you anymore. Don’t let the energy go up to your head and of course don’t ejaculate. Although it is very easy to mess up at first. Read Robert Bruce’s new energy ways and Barber’s Visceral Experience.

>>969 bumpin cuz it needs bumpin. Fapalumpagus

>>969 Besides using these explicit energy moving techniques, one should be careful not to become stagnant in a more general sense. Not exercising, no social contact, and no danger, fulfilling aspirations or adventure will cause stagnation as well, and combined with no ejaculation or experiencing orgasms can get really bad. It can cause physical and psychological issues. This is another way of saying that energy that cannot be stores safey should be used productively. You know you’re doing so when you fill satisfaction. Nostalgia, irritability, frustration or feelings of despair are sure signs that you are not doing it right.

I think I figured out the "full body orgasm without cooming" that Mantak Chia talks about. Unfortunately I still lost some seed because my schlong touched my inner thighs when I was writhing around. However I could feel that I still retained much more than if I coomed the regular way. Then I did the same thing a few more times without losing any of the remaining seed. This experience showed me first-hand how sexual energy actually discharges in the body. Now I understand why women act hysterical, because they don't have a "wand" to direct the sexual energy.

This dude made a full blown personal blog over the past two years on 8kun/fringe. Just look in the catalog for top threads. Porn is godlike until cooming.

>>2347 That's not me and I doubt that guy has the self-control to do such a thing.

Dead air. This should be the main purpose of every man on earth. Coomers that stop busting nuts observe the change in their behavior. How they start chasing trash pussy just so they'll release. It's better to be a coomer that repented than a normie. Then you know. Everything is clear in front of you. You are hijacked by your hormones. You are not free until you are strong enough to say no to your monkey mind.

>>2752 I fap twice or thrice a week (not to porn), and think about sex exactly the amount of minutes it takes me to do it. I don't even see women as potential partners anymore. I just give my body what it is programmed to need, and that's it. I eat well. I exercise. I meditate. My magic is strong. My visions are strong. My mediumship is strong. My astral projection is strong.

>>131 >That's the whole point. Don't you hate it? Spending some sixty plus years having such regrets while stuck in decaying bodies? Tell me it's not a curse!

>>2801 Blindly doing it right when young is the ultimate test. That's where your true potential is exposed, only that you can't see it until later. You won't get a second chance at it, being reborn you again start with no memories, same game still.

>>2801 >>2802 Wonder what it means to live "right" in your youth. If I awakened my potential earlier I would have ended up either in the psych ward or in prison from the madness it made me go through... There is a reason why the Kabbalah is only meant to be studied when you are older. When the flame or recklessness of youth and the expectations of society is not distracting you from truly understanding what you are meant to do. When people talk about "wasting their youth" they either mean they indulged in constant hedonism and went nowhere or that they did the opposite studied and worked hard and didn't have a chance to "enjoy their youth". Had to realize current society hard wired people to deny what their genetics requires them to do and breaking those societal norms to "truly live" is not as easy as it sounds. And let's not talk about the necessities the soul and spirit requires to blossom it's potential. It's a maze of mirrors and illusions and once you get branded as a schizo or mentally ill in any way in your youth it's real hard treadmill to get out of it. Society does their best to ruin you then declares how it "saved you". Very few have chance to earn the luck to do things right from the get go. And when that happens then it's "meant to be". I read somewhere how being born a genius and having the chance to capitalize on it is a rare gift. It said how lucky Mozart was to not just being born a musical genius but having the upbringing too that allowed him to blossom it well. Then he died young and ended up in a mass grave... Jesus also died when he was 33 years old so did Alexander the Great. What it means to "waste" your youth I wonder. Youth is just a short period of life if you live it well. Age is just a number it didn't exist before the invention of calendars. Your true energies shouldn't depend on them too much. Shame there are no proper coming of age rituals nowadays. We just have the <your 18-21 now son you can do cigs booze and porn legally An absolute bummer. At least people stopped annoying me how they know everything better than me because they are older. Most annoying shit I had to put up with in my first 25 years. Had to realize that my suspicion was right. No one truly knew shit they just hid behind their "authority" that their age gave them. Old people and people in their prime shape and rule the world. It is always a sign of societal collapse when they blame the young for everything. It just shows how they have no idea how things work at all. They never grew up they just got older. Maturity and wisdom doesn't come with age alone. But try to be mature and wise as a child. The world will laugh at you for not being like the "other kids". And let's not talk about how the energies of the other side take a toll on still developing bodies. Young psychics have weird ailments constantly for a reason. If you are not under a tutelage of a true master you will suffer a lot in the sea of mundanity until you have a proper hold upon your power. I had to witness the traumas of my childhood that put limiters and shackles on my psyche to keep me safe from al the energies I was subjected to as the glimpses of awakening appeared. We cannot comprehend the retardation and the brainwashing we are going through in the first 20-40 years of our life just by "being normal" until awakening. Awakening is a natural process and it's ridiculous how much we sabotage it without realizing.

>>2804 I'm well aware you're not traditionally allowed to study kabbalah unless you are a 40+ year old man or yoga until you are 12. These things have reasons for them in terms of life experiences caused by merely aging and the body growing. Jesus was said to be a genius in his single digit age already, supposedly knowing the contents of scriptures only old people would have normally read. Those who make rocket launch careers and start as the head of a major business at 22 had similar progress, sold their first shoes when they were 5, invested in crypto at 11 and so on. These things come with your inborn fate and you can't "gain" them from any life advice given by others. Good sportsmen in olympic sports need a smooth progress from a very early age and they may peak in their late teens. The would not be able to control their environment at that age. "Wasted" youth would be to have some smaller but still real "blessing" like this and not making use of it. Some people are "found", some are not, but may still have a talent which they could harness if they started very early.

>>2804 >If I awakened my potential earlier I would have ended up either in the psych ward or in prison from the madness it made me go through... It turns out real potential is strong enough that they can't do that to you, however.

When I was ~8 my grandma told me >at Easter if you go outside you can see the sun jump this from what I've read later comes from some creative mistranslation of a bible passage (or not?), but I went outside, stared at the sun and it jumped. I went back inside and told her I saw it happen. No one listened to me. (Yes, this was back when you could actually look directly at the sun for several seconds and not get blinded by it, like they say on /x/. It's strange to imagine today, when it's impossible to even look in its general direction. The sun when I was little, was a round, orange/yellow quite murky glowing disc, its sharp round edges fully visible to the naked eye.) How would I, at that age have known, with the scientific frame of reference, what this really signified?

>>2807 >The sun when I was little, was a round, orange/yellow quite murky glowing disc, its sharp round edges fully visible to the naked eye. I'm curious, since I've heard others say the same thing. What's the cause of this phenomenon?

>>2807 >>2808 I figured out that the eyes have a "setting" that allows it for sungazing. It's not exactly the eyes itself but how the eye meridians operate. If you make the meridians take in the energies above and below the eye it's good if you make them go through/pierce the center of your iris then it burns it out. Practiced sungazing in my early psychic years but got bored of it then some years ago I had to sit down under a tree and gaze at the sun for hours to ground myself. Some weird energetic structure was breaking apart around me and tried to gaslight me that the world is "Breaking apart". After that I noticed the 8 layers of the sun and how it is a different but the same object on many layers at once and how we connect to it. >>2806 >turns out real potential is strong enough that they can't do that to you Jesus went on the cross by his "Own will". It's not always "they" that make you do it. Sometimes the potential brings you to places where they can blossom the best. Control and Fate gains a new definition. The gravity that held your life together changes and new things will gravitate towards you or maybe you are gravitating towards it? Who knows what karma grants to those that interact with it.

>>2807 That’s interesting. I believe you. But when I was little (30+ years ago) I remember vividly that I dared myself look at it for one full second, and it was as difficult as it is today.

>>2808 >What's the cause of this phenomenon? The boring (and contradictive, when it comes from modern "science" as always) is that the air in the 90s was filled with particles from heavy industry burning coal, old cars etc, which created a screen that filtered away the harmful light of the sun (and also reduced global warming, another way to tell "climate science" is bunk). After new environmental legislation was imposed, factories installed "end of pipe" filtering, car engines burn their fuel better which leaves less particles in their emission, and electric cars are increasing in number. This has caused the air to clear of all smog, which is making the sun much brighter than it was since the entire industrial revolution began some 200 years ago. This is the real cause of global warming, the smog particle screen that blocked the sun has been removed. It will only get worse the more clean energy is being pushed. But whatever. I have my own understanding of what lies behind it, and it's currently too esoteric even for Fringe.

>>2810 >>2811 During last winter I was doing ritual magic sessions out in the forest at night at a 4 road crossing at repeated occasions. After one of these, when I got back home I noticed my physical perception of light had changed. A strong light bulb in my room which I wasn't able to look at directly before, was now easy to look at, it wasn't blinding. The effect on the sun the next day was the same. It's still blinding, but I can now look briefly at it and see its round shape, where earlier in the past few years (when it has gotten increasingly worse, just like /x/ says) I wasn't able to look anywhere near the sun. It used to be a strong "mess" of light coming at me so strongly I would feel blinded looking within 45 degrees of its location in the sky. Not so anymore. I don't know what caused this, but it feels like all light sources appear "contained" to me after this one session.

>>2814 If that's any hint, I was working with the bible and kabbalah at the time.

Jannies, purge this thread. Clearly, people don't have an interest in renouncing lust since they're talking about the sun fucking jumping. The absolute state of /fringe

I RENOUNCE MY LUST FOR THE NEXT 10 MINUTES. I SWEAR ON MY FRINGE I WILL NOT WANK TO THE HOTTEST PORN ON THE INTERWEBZ NOR WILL I ENTER COOMBAIT THREADS NOR WILL I OPEN THAT FISHY LINK THAT WAS POSTED NOR WILL I LOOK UP SOURCE FOR THAT DEFINITELY PORN CROPPED IMAGE. I SWEAR I WILL NOT TOUCH ME PEEPEE FOR THE NEXT 10 MINUTES >>3452 Happy now faggot? Hope you are elated of the fact how unmolested my crotch will be in the next 10 minutes and how everyone is aware of it now in this thread now. Bet you dream of untouched penises at night.

>>3462 phew. Challenge completed. >>3452 Forgot to mention this to you my flagless complainomancer friend that YOU ALSO FORGOT TO RENOUNCE YOUR LUST IN THE RENOUNCE YOUR LUST THREAD. Maybe we should make a renouncing pointless complaining on fringe thread and create tutorials for effortpost maxing. Now excuse me but I have some astral acrobatics I am scheduled with my astral wives and astral wife accessories. They are very educational acrobatic movements about the nature of existence but sadly they involve my crotch and my crotch accessories so I will have to delay my next renouncing of energies that the non initiated would consider as lust

Aw fuck yesterday's astral acrobatics went too well. I am in a constant state of full body orgasm and I will have to use it to deepen the relaxed state of my body to remove knots and karmic blocks. Wanted to write a longpost how making a "Pledge" creates a dualistic thinking that makes you even more obsessed with sexuality and ever since nofappers and MGTOWers became a thing I consider it way too lame to announce how you are not going to touch your peepee but man... I cannot force myself to indulge in such a low energy posting now. I can feel my insides melting in a good way.

>>3607 is this really what kohlchan users think is attractive?

I will pledge the next 3 minutes! >>3607 >>3640 Guys you have to mention how you are not touching your penis for an extended amount of time or some flagless retard will complain that he cannot indulge in his chastity fetish while visiting this thread.

>>3607 >>3640 >kohlchan users No, this is Bing's representation of a loli succubus. KC users have a variety of preferences, non of which is AI generated. >>3643 >not touching your penis This is the "renouncing lust" thread right? I gave up lust long ago, I only do this for tantra.

>>3640 The window where >KC finds it attractive >I find it attractive >it can be posted here is very narrow, but let me try. Renounce this.

>>3646 Those are pixels on the screen, giving into that is only going to hurt you, and sank any chances you might have with real thing, so yeah i would renounce this if they were right here right now though...

>>3643 You’re being rather passive-aggressive. I have a problem with that too, but I’ve been working on it. Also, I pledge until the end of tomorrow to not go to an XXX site on a computer or phone, provided that I remain alive in this body for that long, anyway. I’ll probably go far longer than that, but I have this issue with making promises since they tend to put alotta stress on me, so often I’ll just say “I don’t even have to promise to do it”, and then it’s easier than if I actually promise since it ain’t binding. Also some recent times when I have made promises, pressure made me break them. I think I’ve had this issue since the 3rd or 4th grade maybe.

>>3669 >You’re being rather passive-aggressive It's part of the process of reviving fringe. The main energies of fringe was lethargy and passivity then slowly it came to life but the old energies are still inactive. While the stagnant energy is slowly evolving into proper energies that slowly turn into creative informal and effort posting activities the looming negativity is still here. You can call those energies "rage and ridicule". They are better than lethargy and stagnation but they are not productive either. Sadly you cannot always overwrite a negative energy with a positive energy but only with energies with similar vibration. These flagless complainers act upon those stagnating energies as they try to make a "comeback" but they cannot use it for anything productive besides complaining. It's annoying but if the energies don't have enough momentum you cannot expect wonders from them. For them to evolve they require positive interaction but in some cases they might appear rather harsh or stupid. >but I’ve been working on it. Good to hear! >but I have this issue with making promises since they tend to put alotta stress on me Everyone has that. When you do that you start "arm wrestling with yourself" it just creates tension. Tension has value ofc but you need to know how to relax too. >when I have made promises, pressure made me break them When I make a promise I am too hard on myself and I had to learn to relax and not torture myself towards "meaningless goals". There were energetic activations on my path that required me to release stagnating energies but that doesn't mean wasting energies is beneficial. Nofapping for nofap's sake is meaningless and harmful. You will have to realize what you are striving towards while doing it. Making these pledges has 1 benefit tho. Training willpower. If you always break your promises it means you cultivated a force of "anti-willpower" and you have no control over your shadow. The shadow requires to be understood then integrated so does the light then they need to be transcended. I think I will respect this thread by making a pledge for a week for not masturbating and using the energies for energy work instead. Sometimes I have to do it for grounding or to learn about deeper mechanisms of the abdominal muscles like learning how energy can travel with similar movements like sperm and cum does before cumming during cumming and how they require to be guided towards the higher meridians not to mention internal bloodflows that are similar to the mechanisms of the erection. Hope this will serve as a energetic restarting process for this place. See you guys in a week.

>>3679 >See you guys in a week. Challenge accomplished. My energies stagnate too much if I am not igniting my sexuality for some reason. I will have to solve that. >>3452 Still awaiting your pledge