>>276 I think Smiley is Zuckerberg.

There was a great post here about 8ch subversion that disappeared. >>275 >ads in dreams I still have a WoW dream every 1.5 years or so, even though I haven't played since 2010. They're not presented as ads but just experiences of playing the game, except 1000x more wondrous and exciting. Like the feeling of wonder seeing the "outlands" or w/e that demon dimension from BC was called for the first time. They're 3rd person with other people playing and riding mounts and shit. Whenever I wake up from these I want to play so badly, but quickly remember how fucked the game is like that anon said. I wonder if they're ads, or if I'm visiting some sort of astral WoW, or if the psychologists who designed the game were actually way more sophisticated in their methods than anyone realizes. >>770 He's Zuckerberg's good timeline where he made /fringe/ instead of facebook

Folk magic. Possible inspiration for ritual design.

>>971 You probably dreaming about the game occasionally because it was just that fucking good, at least before the metagamers figured out how to take all the fun out of it and turn it into a social status simulator and drive out most people who aren't super casual; also, career raiders were a thing since wrath. As with so many things in this world lately, even vanilla classic was ruined by people being greedy for "good" parses and wanting to "not waste time". I suppose that it's a possibility that various spirits had guided the original devs outside of their awarenesses into making the game as great as it was. In fact, I'd imagine that such spirits guiding people into making great games was fairly common back then, but nowadays people just don't embrace high standards so often anymore, and civilization as a whole is being consumed by greed, so there ain't much room for them in the video game industry these days. Anyway, WoW & its predecessors had such a gigantic amount of loosh poured into it them I'd imagine that there's lots of custom WoW servers in the astral, and your unconciousness might just decide to dream in one of them every once in a while.

>>977 Higher res version

>>1681 Seeing this being reposted and recalling that event is such a weird thing. It was too painful so I repressed it in some way and never think of how he ended himself. That guy used to be a sort of symbol of limitless freedom to me. I'd visit his apartment with my friend when he wasn't home and play PlayStation. He had an advanced speaker set with surround and large bass which was unusual, playing games with these kinds of effects was just not possible anywhere else because no one else in my environment had this kind of set up. He'd order factory made pirate copies from China so he had lots of games. Some of them were in original with Japanese menus though, but that made it exotic. His apartment was filled with "loot" him and his friends had stolen when out driving. They made it a "game" to do things that weren't allowed, but not enough illegal for someone to stop them. Such as stealing the plastic ice-cream man, the flag from the gas station, a trash can from some franchise, marketing items placed outside on the streets or anywhere. He also had a set of traffic cones with blinking lights stolen from some construction site. One time he shot himself in the foot by mistake when "mindlessly" pulling the trigger while balancing the rifle on his foot while talking to someone. In retrospective this felt like he was testing if he would be able to pull the trigger on himself. This event also crashed the idea of this rebel attitude, but I didn't want to remember it that way, so I still don't really connect the two sides of his personality as I see them, even if it's not two sides but just the same personality. Maybe he had already made up his mind to kill himself and that was why he did all these things, it didn't matter because he was going to die anyway. Supposedly he left letters for people and said he was "lonely" as reason, but he had like 7 friends who visited him and hung out at his place almost every day of the week. There were always lots of cars outside. He also left a letter for a 14 year old "troubled" girl who was in love with him. Everyone knew this and it was enough for him feeling that he had to explain why he did it. So this feeling of being lonely was really just his imagination. He was 22 when he died.

>>1695 >This event also crashed the idea of this rebel attitude Suicides are a weird act of "rebellion". You rebel against your body against your will to live and against society that expects you to live >Maybe he had already made up his mind to kill himself Those who are successful at the first try usually are. If they are unsure somehow they survive the first try. My family "was" full of suicidal fucks and their success rate depended how sure they were in their "desire". For me it's different because I have this mentality to live just for an another day so I can say FUCK YOU to anyone who dares to make me feel suicidal but I had to realize that I have a great desire for pain and death and I have to slowly let it leave my system. Like the desire to slowly being ground to dust appeared from the direction of my flesh recently. I attributed it to some karmic element in my body deciding that it can change forms but when it enters my mind I think I want my entire being to experience it. >said he was "lonely" as reason Suicidal people either try to find an "excuse" and even manage to blame it on others or he was really lonely. Like he was lonely around of others because they were unable to stimulate him in a way as they count as "company". Not sure about this one. The suicides I have around are usually because extreme depression alcoholism and a weird mix of stubbornness and never loneliness. >>1681 And the worse your attachments are the more painful the hell realm will be that will "cleanse" your spirit. But at that level the ghosts don't care. Some experience the afterlife as a moment feeling like centuries while for some it's a mere moment that lasts for centuries. Never truly manage to understand them. Usually they have a guiding feeling towards a "way forward" and don't care about anything else. But every ghost is different. Snapping out suicidal people can be troublesome. I remember a way that was practiced in the segment of the country where my grandma lived with extremely high suicide rates. There was a railroad where trains were connecting and going backwards in a curved railway. Because of that the train operator never knew what is behind the long train carts and he had no way stopping before crushing someone. The suicidal person just sat there waiting for their death as the train slowly crushed them. Because of them there were always long holdups for the trains as cops had to investigate and clean up the place so the train company had enough and put 2 large security guard on the back of the train. Whenever a suicidal person appeared they dragged him away and beat the living shit out of him. The suicidal person was awaiting death but he just got beat up instead. This somehow snapped out most of the suicidals as this "shock" made their suicidal energies go away. Sometimes you have to make the lives of these people not just "worse" but "different" that they have no choice but to snap out of their "uncomfort zone". But it's hard to make conclusions how you can prevent suicides. To make a suicide successful at the first start you need an extremely strong and determined mind into the wrong direction. Those people that have access to that level of willpower or a weird sense of "suicidal whimsy" have ways to make their lives better at will but somehow are blind to it or I don't know. The problem is just that you cannot save people that died inside long ago. I hate suicides so much it's unreal.

>>1700 >The suicidal person was awaiting death but he just got beat up instead. This somehow snapped out most of the suicidals as this "shock" made their suicidal energies go away. Sometimes you have to make the lives of these people not just "worse" but "different" that they have no choice but to snap out of their "uncomfort zone". This was the basis of one of the plot threads of The Sopranos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdvjMbCawkk

>>1700 >a moment feeling like centuries while for some it's a mere moment that lasts for centuries that makes me think; will you perceive time going faster if your awareness is faded out most of the time, while you're perceive time as being slower by increasing your awareness in some manner that mundane people can't?

>>1700 If you think “making their lives better” would make them nlt want to kill themselves you are very far removed from their mindset. The impulse to kill yourself comes from trying to escape an extreme discomfort that has become a part of yourself. The feeling is something like wanting to escape yourself. Utterly impossible. But like a crazed horse that is in pain, jumping off a cliff is the only thing that makes sense at this point. I believe this type of impulse is caused by parasitic spirits (maybe that are feeling the same way), and it’s extremely painful to exist in that state. In an attempt to escape that torment, those spirits would drag you to join them. A beating would exorcise them for sure. I have experienced this and have been closer to doing it than I care to admit. Until I realized that consciously managing my “vibration” and preventing it from dipping too low completely cuts that out. There’s probably some low level shit where I leave. No, I know there is. My upstairs neighbors used to beat up their children and I picked up on it the moment I moved in.

Am gonna post a classic image probably everyone knows already to respect the theme of this thread first >>1704 >will you perceive time going faster Hard to explain because you will perceive things completely differently once you are not one with your flesh and mortal senses. Not to mention "perceiving time". How you "perceive time"? Like without clocks or the sun and moon moving how do you know time is passing? The leaves of the tree falling faster? Time is relative as hell. You don't notice how fast time goes when you are in a "flowstate" like playing vidya or enjoying the company of others while minutes feel like hours once you have to listen to a long and boring lecture or do some menial task. >if your awareness is faded out most of the time Even your current awareness is somewhat "faded out" as a person with incomplete awakening. You don't notice many things that happens in your environment. It's like not seeing the face of every person in a crowd or the cars in the traffic but if there is only a single person/car you notice everything about them. For the ghosts the people and events around them are like "passerbys" or an extremely important event that they live out detail by detail but in a narrow scope of existence. Once you die the way you perceive things changes completely depending on your enlightenment level and your attachments. It's hard to say how they experience it. Some get nabbed by an egregore while some will have to walk their personal journey until they reach a new realm of existence or ignite the flames of reincarnation. >while you're perceive time as being slower by increasing your awareness It becomes automatic. Like how you perceive things differently in life and death situations. Now that will be completely different because it will be a "death" situation and you will have to decide if you want to remain dead (the decision is not always conscious sometimes they just know it's time to go because the energy runs out/calls them) or walk the extremely painful path of rebirth. Most are not even know they are dead while some have a attachment or task that they have to finish before "finding peace"/departing while some are even weirder... Necromancy is really not my strong suit. I am only dealing with my neighbor spirits. I let graves be graves and don't talk with the ghosts there. I remember being in the grave and asking my guide why are the spirits not saying anything >They can sense your mortal troubles and not willing to disturb you with their pain The fact that even the dead feels sorry for me didn't really make my day better. Didn't really realize how I am a factory of unpleasant mortal energies before that. I have to flick a switch in my mind to "hear them". They talk but they are unwilling to penetrate my aura of suffering. >>1706 >If you think “making their lives better” would make them nlt want to kill themselves you are very far removed from their mindset I meant they have ways to change their lives they are just not seeing it and unable to grasp the opportunities. It's a trap of the routines/habits that they are unwilling to break. For that their lives usually have to get worse so their survival instinct propels them to gtfo or find a purpose other ways. Modern humans have such a subdued survival instinct it's ridiculous. >trying to escape an extreme discomfort that has become a part of yourself I know. Sometimes you make them even more uncomfortable but the goal is not to make their "whole being" uncomfortable but the part of themselves that houses and generates the "suicidal energies". You have to literally attack that part mentally energetically verbally or physically even and flush out the energies of their system. I could tell stories about this but I don't want to explain the retarded madness my family went through. My problem is that the more stubborn and complex the problems of other people have the harder it becomes to remove these parasites permanently. First you have to check their thinking processes and their willpower and dedication and how much they are willing to "act" upon the whispers of the parasites. Like I realized long ago that my mother doesn't have the willpower to kill herself while my father hated the mess people caused with their suicides in the family but in the end he let go of himself so much he literally died almost like a "passive suicide" with his unhealthy lifestyle. For decades there were no suicides in my family but I am still mad I was unable to save my dad from his lifestyle. Noticed how my grandparents started to behave similarly because grandpa also had suicidal urges before and dad almost beat the shit out of him when he joked with suicide so I had to make sure to watch how their mind works and remind them they have "things to do" because they can employ such a defeatist mindset that I had to yell at them from time to time so they don't let themselves trip and die. Took me some years but managed to make them come to their senses. >But like a crazed horse that is in pain I work with animals. I know how the "animal mind" decides to "die". Wild animals when they are in an extreme sickness they become "Peaceful" and wander towards humans. While healthy animals that were not hand fed by humans usually have a natural aversion towards the "apex predators". If you have ways to notice how the "conscious" and the "animal mind" operates in a person you know there is something wrong there by instinct when it happens. It's all about reading people but if you have a connection with your inner animal you know by instinct that something is wrong and you know you just need to "lead them or beat them to shape". >caused by parasitic spirits (maybe that are feeling the same way), and it’s extremely painful to exist in that state. In an attempt to escape that torment, those spirits would drag you to join them. Well yeah... some of them might do that but... there is the other type. The one that wants to feed on the leftover energies of your empty corpse and those who seek a little "enjoyment" from it. Tricksters and malicious exploiters have their ways but their energy is rarely higher than the spirits that want to "die with you" so once you awaken and achieve your own higher energy inner forge you can cleanse them by default. >A beating would exorcise them for sure. Yeah... this is one of my problem. I know these beings "hate pain" but they hate different kind of pain and energies thus removing them takes effort. I noticed a weird parasite and asked Shiva about it. He tried to touch it to see how it burns and told me >It's using your lifeforce to shield itself you need to realize a deeper understanding about your personal energies to banish it Getting rid of minor parasites can take time because every disease every thought you share with mundanes contains them and some are "one" with your flesh already because they are "ancestral" like genetic diseases. To remove them you have to understand what makes the human body "pristine" and once you reach that they will die because they have no "sustaining energy" anymore. Figured out how I can control everything and everyone that is using my life force in any way but some of them have such a minor control that it's hard to even notice them until you literally make them "out of control". They pretend to be part of you so well. You have to notice how they live and enter in the body and figure out the antidotes intuitively and upgrade the energetic immune system of your subconscious with it. It's ridiculous how much parasites modern society houses and breeds like it's nothing. >consciously managing my “vibration” and preventing it from dipping too low completely cuts that out Yupp that's the way. But I realized I can let my vibration go down and when that happens stay silent and STARE INTO THE EYES OF THOSE WHO WHISPER and because I know their face and smell I know how to remove them. It's important to do this or they stay dormant or even worse. They jump onto the next person around you. If you want to stay on earth get an incarnation pass. Parasites have no rights to exist and removing them is a duty of anyone who have the ability to do so. But this is a complicated topic. Noticed some half conscious beings degenerated so much they became "parasitic" and once cleansing them they could be made into other purposes because all they care about is to "Have a home" and a stable energy circulation and once you grant them a place in the ecosystem they become the most loyal and useful beings ever. You can even make them to prey on other parasites if they are too feral for anything more nuanced. Immune system spirits so to speak. But most of them doesn't have an "conscious" level for that so it's better to vaporize them asap. Realized long ago that sometimes it's better to shoot first and ask questions later. Higher beings are immune to low level attacks and might even comment on it while lower level beings need to be reminded where they are. >There’s probably some low level shit where I leave I think you meant live so I will interpret it that way. Cleanse the place either energetically or use some sort of astral body or magical flaming sword mechanism to find and beat the living shit out of them. Do not tolerate them. It will either make your neighbors more steady and amicable once you are through or if they are too "one with the parasites" they will flee in fear. Seen it happen many times. You can remind these beings the reason why they should be "good" or die trying. Some of them learn quite quick when they notice a dominant force. Ofc some of them have a purpose and you can demand an explanation first before reaping them. Quite annoying when I decide that something is a "worthy foe" and start to summon and strap in my forces and energies into a quickfire way and decide it's time to take things seriously and let my higher energies enter my mind for proper guidance so I don't lose my psyche for that absolute destruction born energies that I am planning to unleash and suddenly all forces vanish before I am even able to bring out the big guns. It's like how even my animals know that they did something bad and stop doing it once I glare at them. The lower levels of Samsara operate by similar rulesets and mentalities. Shame the real power lies in the higher planes of existence and no matter what your "accomplishments" are on this layer of existence they are just mere building blocks or footsteps towards the higher understanding and I am reminded every day that I cannot waste my time on these party tricks. The inner godspark and the inner demon evolves side by side and you have to notice what they are making you do and it's important to never turn yourself into your worst enemy. Shadow work 101.

old /fringe/ liked this book Also: >/fringe/ Meditations Superthread >https://archive.is/lQE5j