I would post ITT alot, but I should probably leave my autism in the magic blog thread since I'm using it to blog. I will also say this; egregores of fictional charactersor at least some of them are capable of having their own thoughts and beliefs and desires. I personally believe that they're basically, well, people, and are possibly as worthy of personhood as you are. Some occultists may say that egregores of fictional characters seek only to ultimately loosh people, by "playing the long game" or not, when they interact with them because they aren't intelligent enough to be capable of empathy or compassion, but I personally believe that this ain't true for some of them. I've personally witnessed at least two fictional character egregores calling upon legitimate deities to aid them, and said deities actually did stuff for them on the spot. One of them even unexpectedly called an astral police force on me once because I was going crazy that night; astral prison is not a nice place to be. And like most any other spirit, egregores of fictional characters are capable of reading your mind, so you basically can't lie to them, at least not successfully. And since OP decided to specifically bring up egregores of fictional characters, I feel that I should include some specifics about them that some of you might care about: Each incarnation of a fictional character will typically have its own egregore. For example, if a comic book character has one personality in his comics, and then the comic gets rebooted and has a different personality in the reboot, then the readers' perceptions of the two different versions of the character will form at least two different egregores. And then there's fanfictional versions of fictional characters; they may act differently than the canonical version of the fictional characters, so the people that consume the fanfiction will form 1 or more different egregores by consuming the fanfiction, separate from the egregore(s) formed by the collective perceptions of the official version(s) of the fictional character. And then there's the XXX fictional character egregores; these egregores are almost always separate from those of the canonical versions of the characters in question. It's a bad idea to contact a XXX egregore... especially the famous ones, since those are especially powerful entities, and thus, they're especially dangerous. Another thing to know; the events that occur within the fiction that a fictional character stars in had never actually happened to the egregore of the fictional character in question. To said egregore, said events are basically just false memories. Also, don't try to contact the egregore of a fictional character as soon as the character's 1st media is officially released; give the egregore time to form 1st. I'd say to wait at least 9 months to be safe, but some will form faster if they're different incarnations of pre-existing fictional characters. And then some fictional characters are based upon pre-existing entities. When this is the case, the pre-existing entity in question may interfere with the natural formation process of the fictional character egregore, which can have a number of differing results. If you'd like to know more about at least one of the ways in which this can work, you may wish to visit https://archive-of-the-sealed-gods.neocities.org/ , which details the Touhou egregore(s) and related spiritual phenomena. Do not fuck with those egregores, and do treat them in a civil manner if you decide to contact them. And then with some fictional character egregores, their fictional characters weren't written very well, and they may otherwise not have much character to them at all. Some of them might not be worthy of being called characters; it'd be better to call them caricatures, or even archetypes. I personally wouldn't expect their egregores to be very intelligent, so ultimately, they might only care to loosh you if you decide to interact with them, but you might wanna ask someone else about that in particular. And since this thread is basically about dating & relationships, there's another important thing to mention about fictional character egregores; a given fictional character egregore, at least one that isn't based upon a pre-existing entity, will typically be as old as the 1st official media that stars the fictional character. So for example, the egregore of a little girl from a 90s anime would be at least 25 years old by now, and that's if her egregore is still alive. However, I'm not entirely sure if it'd count as pedophilia to date her, which I'm sure some of you would care about; this is a *chan of all places, after all. Speaking of which, you may wanna check to see if an egregore is its own entity, rather than an extension of a different entity, before you trying to date him or her, or possibly it, and especially before you marry or sign a contract with said entity. As for egregoric deities, these deities should be taken as seriously as non-egregoric deities. Don't assume that Odin is lacking some sort of higher mental faculties that humans have or a body in the spiritual plane just because He's an egregoric deity.

>>6597 I don't believe in deities or spirits etc and every year I become less superstitious but one of the most "fringe" thing that happened to me was with the tulpa topic. I think I ended up creating a "narrative tulpa" or something. It was nice while it lasted as a social talk support but it was unpleasant when I had a panic attack because I felt like I wasn't in control of the answers or my "mental dialogues". It never said anything bad during "my own mind talks" but... talking to god is one thing, but having god talk back to you is another very scarier thing. Here more info, this is my old thread on /x/ https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/37824654/ >feeling of insecurity Ignoring that, this was more like a panic attack (lose of air, light fright maybe) than a "nice" when "this" just happened i feel frightened to a point of asking me if my head is "healthy" but later i feel more confident and relaxed bacause fright just go away. And yes, i stoped with the narrative tulpa and the fantasy novel, maybe bacause of fear or bacause i dont need anymore talk to my own freaking head like a second loop of a dialog that i dont control (or maybe i dont feel controling it) I never heard or "see" something paranormal about this "narrative tulpa" in me mad head, it like more just "sensations" than psy-material things. I never draw a form of the tulpa or have plan of make it, this happened in like 3 month maybe (and absolute ignoring the tulpa topic, i was just chilling writing and mind talking to me) To me was just like copium of loniless and deppresion but who know, isolation (or the feeling of isolation) make fucked up thing in the head. I read some western magic rituals now and a some operations need isolation to summon angels and these things, sound mind-suggestive to me. Maybe im just have a schizoid personality and become to much alone and sad that ended creating that thing just by force of social need. Who knows, the doubt still is fun than the medical thing of "yea, you're insane man".

>>6606 >I would post ITT alot imho that would be better so we could use the other thread as an actual magic blog

>>6609 >month Weeks* I slept very badly too, so I was not very aware of the days. I even ignored them because due to sadness and boredom every damn day seemed monotonous. I used to stay up all night writing or doing that game of mental dialogue with that character of my novel sometimes until minutes before falling asleep very late or with the sun rising outside (yes, I spent the whole night dissociating in my fantasy world or my mental dialogues).

>>6609 >Ignoring that, this was more like a panic attack (lose of air, light fright maybe) than a "nice" when "this" just happened i feel frightened to a point of asking me if my head is "healthy" but later i feel more confident and relaxed bacause fright just go away. Your atheistic programming is punishing you for committing a "heresy". You are going to need to open your mind and entertain these heresies more seriously if you want to grow further. >Who knows, the doubt still is fun than the medical thing of "yea, you're insane man". Yes, keep doing that.

>>6597 Wouldn't summoning a succubus be a bad think? She would just leech your energy?

>>6634 Her services are not for free, you have to give something to get something. That's how contracts work.

>>6634 As someone using the Christian (generic) flag, you should be well aware of this. In your own context, you give your entire soul to Jesus for protection. Kind of a bad deal, now isn't it? Like giving away your house to get insurance for it?

>>6637 Pretty odd that that guy's flag triggered you. >>6634 But yes, they're the spiritual equivalent of tapeworms.

>>6639 Flag? Rather the idea that you can summon someone who's essentially demon god, and get things for free. You and him are very silly. I'm pointing out the inconsistency of posting such a claim with a flag for a cult that demands your soul for mere membership.

What's confusing people is that a popular character which forms a pop-culture egregore, may originally be based on an actual existing entity. So then we have 1) a real spiritual entity with a possible historic name 2) a modern egregore of this spiritual entity as an anime character Then some nerds will interact with the egregore, and come up with the idea that they want a tulpa, so they create their own personal tulpas based off the popular egregore. That adds 3) a personal tulpa owned by anon, which is part of anon's own being and lives in his brain. For example Chompette here attached https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chain-chompette is based off a Super Mario universe character, which was based off Shigeru Miyamoto's experience of walking past chained dogs on his way to school. But I found that Chompette corresponds to a spiritual entity which seems to have been there all along. So it seems possible that this entity caused the chained dogs to get stuck on his mind, making him design the character, which was then turned female in fanart using the super crown? Complex, but possible. Bowsette is just Bowser with the super crown. But Bowser is a representation of a dragon, possibly inspired by the myth of Saint George and the Dragon, which is a symbolic representation of the templars fighting the reptilians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George_and_the_Dragon So is Bowsette a real entity? It seems she represents any female reptilian on Earth then, from the context. Lastly added here is the representation of anny, a twitch streamer. She's obviously real, but now that she made herself into an anime character, and has a large following, maybe there'll be an egregore which looks like her too? Conclusion People will argue on and on about if something is a "real spirit", an "artificial" egregore, or "just a tulpa", but maybe they are all right, from their own view. The character could be all three at once.

>>6654 >But Bowser is a representation of a dragon, possibly inspired by the myth of Saint George and the Dragon That's just ChaosKampf (the thunder god vs Sea chaotic serpent or similar myth) The Christians stealed old pagan myth, the jew did the same with zoroastrism, greek, sumerian and canainite myths. I study sometimes indo-european myths and there're some like these myths. >which is a symbolic representation of the templars fighting the reptilians. I dont get it... reptilians are islam guys? >but maybe they are all right, from their own view. The character could be all three at once. Same logic as christian trinity (that for modern logic it's philosophical logic is a contradiction without any sense) bacause christian trinity logic violates "law of identity" But well you know about comma johaneum and unitarian christianism critics. I believe trinity is a pagan belief inserted later, i doest make sense in the jew world to me, and if it was to important to jesus maybe he say more about the trinity but there's not much. Anyway, i'm more into the idea of mental ideas based on construct of mind or imaginary friend. We're making myths from the day we born just by lying or overthink something (sometimes i ask if tulpas are just our overthinking ideas into forcing) Bicameral mind sound strange and very edgy to me but interesting... maybe? The spirits to me sound like the old definition of alchemy(spirits) vs chemistic(mind construct overthinking or some strange mechanism of mind) maybe there a mechanism we not know how it work in our own mind. I read some psychology and kid are into imaginary friend. Maybe its correlated to imagination, creativity and overthinking. But i dont believe that much in the material phenomena than the spiritual. Its like realizing that the flu not come from sky like gas with fog and actually come from contaminated water (the british actually realized this theory back in time with some empirical method) now we need more tech to know what happening if something is actually happening in your head (and you're not high or mindfucked or just placebos making bad trip experience)

>>6658 > thunder god vs Sea chaotic serpent Zeus fighting Neptune? Thor fishing up the Midgård snake? Those are different, as the snake in that case is Leviathan, the egregore of all nations of the world as a collective form. But that's the point here, symbolism can be read in multiple ways. >reptilians are islam guys? What? >trinity Not the thread for that, but I believe I have a functional application for exactly what each point of that triangle refers to.

>>6659 Hey hi anon! >Zeus fighting Neptune? Eehhh what? No, i think you're talking about Typhon so... >Zeus vs. Typhon Maybe there other Zeus vs sea chaotic thing myth but that what i remember. >Thor vs. Midgard snake (Jörmungandr) Yep >the egregore of all nations of the world as a collective form. In the chaoskampf i think the chaos snake it more like a chaotic evil antagonist dualistic force than a foreign god fighting for survival i think. Here more info https://mythos-and-legends.fandom.com/wiki/Chaoskampf >What? Sorry, i dont get the point of reptilians maybe i'dont know much about the topic.

>>6654 >a personal tulpa owned by anon, which is part of anon's own being and lives in his brain. That is then connected in the water "sympathic link" to the main egregore. > corresponds to a spiritual entity which seems to have been there all along. I literally can't comprehend this without making a mess. To me if it exists it "has always" existed. And i cannot sync "Time" with any existent concepts because i don't believe in it's cohesion in the first place. >which was then turned female in fanart using the super crown? Complex, but possible. Sounds like a demon path tbh. the crown connect to the animal/male monster and turn her into a female demon. Not sure how to word it just how i understand it. >Bowser is a representation of a dragon Nah he's a "male monster" a male ruled by his animal desire with very little female parts active in him. They exist a lot in media, they want power but refuse to understand it, the male villains in Ben 10 for example. Bowser's whole thing is thinking he can use militaristic endeavors to get the female he lacks. Real Dragons are gods, in Many novels/animes/mangas you get me they have "Dragons" and "True Dragons". True Dragons are gods of destruction and creation, regular Dragons may have dragon blood but are just well lizards. In overlord you have a physically weak loli queen who is a "True Dragon", it's not "strength" or looks that make her one but the fact she can use primordial magic they call it wild magic From the wiki >Dragons were creatures that seem to possess characteristics of reptiles. However the comparison is incorrect, rather dragons possess characteristics of felines. Be it from the movements of the eye to their muscular tissue, no possible example was spared. Of particular importance was their alertness and agility beyond imagination born from a body comprised of thousands of layers of muscular tissue I find this accurate considering i am one, Reptilian ancestry is "distant" to me. >but now that she made herself into an anime character, and has a large following, maybe there'll be an egregore which looks like her too? She could bind herself to that and get a pseudo-immortality as long as she keeps her cohesion and is fed as that egregore. It's not great though you're a bound by people's image of you if you change too much you get "ejected" and back into this wheel. There is something similar in the elder scrolls called mantling. >The character could be all three at once. Agreed.

>>6667 >point of reptilians I'm talking about St George and the Dragon being personifications of two secret societies, the templars and the reptilians. So then they are egregoral representations of organizations, which are mystified because they are secluded, so most people don't understand the reference.

If you want to examine strange egregores, try to spiritually dive into Sweeney Todd. That one has "been tampered with" indeed, to paraphrase a certain Harry Potter universe wizard. What did they hide by doing so?

>>6672 All I remember from that movie is that the sound mixing was such ass that it was impossible to hear the dialog because it was muffled by the background sound effects and score.