Is there an alternative link for that mega? If there isn't, what are some good books on the magical properties of food and on which ones are best for your body? My limited understanding on the matter is that "heavy" foods like red meats, fried food, junk food, soda, etc. ground you and retard your spiritual development, while fruits, vegetables and white meats are not only healthier for you but also make you "airy" and more energetic. I figure there's truth to most of it, but I'm not so sure about red meats. Are red meats that bad?

>>86 If you mean the library, there's this one https://mega.nz/folder/F1ljEABD#OWO3WZ7vNIoMO4I1ILlj5A

>>92 I think he means "Blake K's Greenpilled Fitness & Nutrition Library" from the 8kun thread, which is entirely empty save for one pdf.

I need to figure out a new strategy for losing body fat to unearth all the muscle I've grown. Fasting just doesn't feel right any more with a 'normal' BMI.

>>147 After trying all kinds of methods for "cutting" I can only say this: reduce calories by eating less of whatever is calorie intense. Meaning no drinks with sugar, less or no butter, or anything with fat. If you get a craving for sweets or food, make an oatmeal with some jam and milk, or something that will fill you up without having too many calories. Then just keep this up.

I got heavily into Neville Goddard. They guy taught to the uninitiated, but his techniques are equally if not more useful for the adept, and they scale with one’s development. Anyway, I went the opposite route of what intuition would dictate for most people. I started viscerally imagining myself doing exercise with perfect form while in the shower. Looking at myself in the mirror and seeing a fit, lean man. Eventually, this led me to the gym, like many times before. But this time, while in the trance of cardio, I imagined myself as a lean athlete as I ran. I felt myself as a perfect. Nothing further from the truth. I never surpassed my performance of other times I’ve trained in the gym for a few weeks. In fact, I only went once a week, and never broke any weight records I set myself ten years ago when I seriously tried to become a gym meat head. But this time, some synchronistic things happened. My fattest friend became a /fit/ nutjob and lost more than half his weight. I got into deparasitation protocols, which changed my diet and urges. People started telling me I looked much leaner, more fit. I look at myself in the mirror and I do indeed look much better for some reason. I weight the same. I eat whatever I want to eat. I think getting rid of parasites was the thing that did it. But I didn’t plan that. All I did was visualize and feel. Shape your energy, and let it work itself out.

>>158 howd you get rid of your parasites? and you say it got rid of urges?

>>161 I used extracts of cloves, wormwood and black walnut hull and oregano. It got rid of my urges to binge eat. In fact, I'm still surprised at how I often stop eating before I've finished the plate and save it for later. This used to be unthinkable. I did get rid of some parasites (the most common kind), but I suspect I need to do it again soon because I didn't get all of them.

Any good resources on diet according to Chinese medicine? I remember /fringe/ talking about it in the olden days.

>>475 >Any good resources on diet according to Chinese medicine? I too am looking for a comprehensive guide especially for meridians. Diets are usually about elemental balances and they are labelled as a pseudoscience so finding a proper and serious translation or a proper guide is hard. Sometimes I feel an urge to browse the web for them but I either find half baked articles or oversimplified diagrams. Nothing really groundbreaking. Then realize it's better to meditate on the issue instead of wading through trash on the web for a minor inspiration. >I remember /fringe/ talking about it in the olden days. It was mentioned but I am not sure if we had proper sources there. Was not really interested in dietary practices back then. I was too much about the Mind over Matter perspective and did not have the lifestyle to be able to apply a dietary routine in the olde days. I remember some anons had success with it but I am not sure if they are still here nowadays.

>>490 It would be cool if there was a Chinese equivalent of /fringe/ and we could make contact and trade knowledge. Although if something like that ever existed in the Sinosphere I doubt it survived 2020 even to the small degree that we did. Sometimes I wonder if I should drop all the westoid stuff and start learning Classical Chinese while I'm still young.

>>490 Claudia Focks Atlas of Acupuncture for the meridians. As for diet, you need to study TCM theory first and then you can use something like chinesenutrition.org to understand and decide what you need at any given point, since Chinese Medicine is all about detecting imbalances and restoring them. meandqi.com is a good general resource, too. The Web That Has No Weaver: Understanding Chinese Medicine can teach you the concepts you need to know. But if you don’t take actual classes for a certification, it’s difficult to grasp. You’d need to read a lot of case studies. And then there’s going beyond the mundane stuff and combining TCM theory with Taoism for actual esoteric shit. After studying TCM myself I realized most books about Taoism are bullshit. Jason Read Chinese magic books seem pretty legit from what I know about TCM theory and magick, but I haven’t done any of the spells.

>>508 I don’t know if you realize how much of a lightning in a bottle /fringe/ was. At most there were ten, maybe a little more, like fifteen or twenty people who gathered online for a few short years coming and going and contributing to the initiation of a few others, and leaving a lot of good info scattered among the various imageboards it spanned. At least there are the archives. But that lightning is long gone.

>>512 You get the most useful post of /fringe/ award from me. >After studying TCM myself I realized most books about Taoism are bullshit Oh yeah that is well known in Tao >Those who speak of the dao do not know the dao not to mention when talking about the internal view of organs and meridians even they state once your internal view develops you will see things that are not in any books and might be completely different from the diagrams. Truth is I am mostly figuring out what meridian does what but the way they form around the body can get weird. Like I thought I have some energetic problem in the right side of my neck while channeling and doing other energy works then it turned out I had a large energy block in my ears and those acupuncture points resonate with other body parts. Those books and diagrams will be a good reference when I am looking for a missing piece for myself. I just figured out some days ago that the shape of my organs is "wrong" and cause problems. Some energy circuits were inflamed and other minor problems. >>508 >It would be cool if there was a Chinese equivalent of /fringe/ and we could make contact and trade knowledge I think we would get scammers instead of shitposters not to mention even more autistic arguments about different practices. Oh an fanatic arguments about cult personas. >Sometimes I wonder if I should drop all the westoid stuff and start learning Classical Chinese while I'm still young There was a time when I thought about this but with Sanskrit. >>513 >But that lightning is long gone. Do not pretend lightning cannot strike twice. We just need to get a little inspiration going here and there.

Fasting is also very good, but you probably won't be lifting or running 10 miles on a fast. Trust me I've tried lol. But holy shit does fasting work for me, it's one of those things that is underappriciated because it's mainstream and few really have the guts to go a couple days witout eating I suspect. It's almost incompatible with modern life, unless you have 100 days of calories stored which you shouldn't. Working a job on a fast is next to impossible for most people, once that glycogen runs out you're hitting a metabolic wall until autophagy and ketosis kick in. Doing a fast rn actually, last year has been too busy for me to just not eat for a few days. >>508 Was trying to get that Yi AI language model working for reasons like this, so much chinese stuff is just never translated right or considered important by western scholars. Would love to ask an AI trained on both english and chinese texts about things like TCM, could offer new insights in a more organic way than dr phd's interpretation or google translate. Not super high priority for me atm though, shouldn't be super hard. >>513 8 years later and l'm stopping by here, not like I have lots to discuss though. Not sure if another fringe is needed, you can make your own path with those archives. But I do miss the feeling of studying the occult for the first time, maybe that's the lightning. Happens to everyone who spends too much time in a field lol.

>>515 My post crashed my browser. Oh well, maybe I wasn’t supposed to say all that. You can find Yi on openrouter.

>>514 >not to mention when talking about the internal view of organs and meridians even they state once your internal view develops you will see things that are not in any books and might be completely different from the diagrams. One thing I learned while getting my certification is that Chinese medicine degenerated a long time ago. It used to be that it incorporated animistic elements. Without them, the whole thing collapses very quickly. Teachers contradict each other, meridians and acupuncture points change places depending on who you're talking to, Chinese teachers are intent on implying at every turn how Westerners are fools, and Western teachers are obsessed with making the system look "scientific" and rooted in materialist notions of electromagnetism, neurology, endocrinology and anatomy. As soon as they removed animism from underneath, the whole thing came crashing down, and that was centuries ago. Reading Jason Read you can get a glimpse into what it was supposed to look like, but his books are very practical, so you only get those in the introductions and such. It is scary to realize how long ago these things actually degenerated. I was looking into TIbetan practices earlier, looking at the rituals themselves and reading what the "ancient texts" say these rituals do. With just a little experience in energy manipulation and curiosity you can see there's a huge disconnect there. It really looks like there's a huge veil there. >Do not pretend lightning cannot strike twice It's a massively different world right now. We could discuss a lot about this. But I suppose you're right.

>>529 You posted an old fringe image and fringe is going through a revival process. The energies are going a little haywire. We just had some anons having problems with the merchant the reptoid and now a new thread about the greys. Several energies are congregating and reconnecting. >maybe I wasn’t supposed to say all that Do you still fear the consequences of your words? Fear the weakness of your browser instead. Also 8chan got an upgrade so some scripts might cause problems. >>530 >is that Chinese medicine degenerated a long time ago Yeah I noticed this too. >It used to be that it incorporated animistic elements Yes the human genetics consider many elements and movements that animals express better than the average human and it holds quite the strong energy work and conceptual mastery. Even I had to reconnect to many animal aspects. Be their earthly or cosmic animal aspects. >Without them, the whole thing collapses very quickly Yeah this is why looking at ancients portraits and diagrams were more helpful than the modern "pseudoscience conforming" retardations. >Teachers contradict each other, meridians and acupuncture points change places depending on who you're talking to This was my worst realization. Once I started to see my inner energy flows I opened the old chakra and other images that I knew I have seen a dozen of times while surfing the web and I realized all of them are different a little and most of them are copypasted without 90% of the authors understanding what they just drew. Especially after going into the third eye and the crown chakra with the thousand petals. Not to mention the chakra models usually leave out the legs and the hands which are almost as important as the spine and the brain itself once your higher chakras need a proper foundation (or they mix up the elements the mudras do). Made me realize the 7 chakra model is only good for a certain practice and beyond that it limits you. Had to look at ancient paintings from many eastern cultures and they literally "came alive" as I looked at them because the incredible amount of energy the monks poured into it. Realized if you are "unable to see it" then it's impossible to explain this with the current (((scientific))) view everyone boxes their mind in. Add the worst part with these acupuncture changes. All of them might be true because overall the whole body is connected and different mental states and ways the body is positioned connects the meridians differently. And let's not mention how this entire art or science developed before the onset of modernism where people lived a more natural down to earth life. Which means what worked in the past might not work nowadays. >Chinese teachers are intent on implying at every turn how Westerners are fools, and Western teachers are obsessed with making the system look "scientific" and rooted in materialist notions of electromagnetism, neurology, endocrinology and anatomy. yeah even my guides warned me about this. As I managed to see and circulate energies I had to look up anatomy because I realized I don't know where are my kidneys how is my liver and entrails are positioned and it was all good at the start but once I started to understand how the pancreas and other things handle energy and I wanted to sync it up with anatomical diagrams my guides asked me. >Do you truly want to base your understanding on faulty understanding or you want to see it truly how it is by yourself I had to slowly accept that while what I am seeing is somewhat explored the "true depth" of the human body is not uncovered especially in the mainstream. I still look at these diagrams time to time but only when I am absolutely confused and need a little grounding because what is up down back and forward as I move the energies can get jumbled up. Especially the brain. Things that are behind my eyes and above my ears I don't even know sometimes where is the energy moving at anymore. There was a point where I had to imagine the energy is moving like a meter away from my head just to make a proper circuit otherwise it felt I will burst a vein in my head. Trying to frankenstein the eastern and western understanding is extremely dangerous because they are talking about the same thing but the applying the wrong perspective can ruin the whole process. >It really looks like there's a huge veil there. Yeah especially if the translators don't know what is the text is about. This is why books are only good within sects and well established traditions and the presence of guru is important otherwise there is 90% chance for becoming a misinformation factory. >It's a massively different world right now. I never like to admit this but yes. Things changed no matter how I look at it. >We could discuss a lot about this Maybe we will.

>>537 In my lost post I reminisced about the fringebot on discord and I said nowadays we could fine tune a llama with the data from the archives, or feed it in rag style. That would be something.

>>540 >In my lost post I reminisced about the fringebot on discord Yeah I missed out on discord because I consider it the blight of the internet. >nowadays we could fine tune a llama with the data from the archives You might have truly angered the spirit of fringe with that. How did fringebot even function there? >That would be something. I cannot deny that.

>>541 >You might have truly angered the spirit of fringe with that I don’t know about that. Fringebot was really connected to the egregore and its responses were pretty synchronistic most of the time. >How did fringebot even function there? It was a markov chain like bot. In order to “train” it, you take all the posts, and store the references of posts that quoted a post as a response to it. When it’s time for the bot to respond, you use edit distance comparison to find a post in the database that most resembles the user input, then choose one of its replies at random. It replied with whole posts or whole sentences. It’s naive, but before LLMs this technique was really fun to play with, and you could use any imageboard as your corpus.

>>544 It used some other techniques based on probabilities and randomization to make the response better, but I forget what it was. It was connected directly to the fringebay database, so it had real time access to the posts. It was really neat.

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