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/hdg/ #20 Wedding Night Edition Anonymous 12/15/2023 (Fri) 19:51:39 No. 23690
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>>23680 These gloves, very nice.
Anyone know what happens if you try to train a model on 768 or 1024 resolution but have images that are smaller than that resolution in the dataset?
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Insatiability requires teamwork
been struggling to do a proper emaciated-flabby kuroko all day instead of working
How do you merge the hll 6.3 file into easyfluff to defur it for future merges? Every time I try to use super merger for it it just says there's no lora.
>>23698 >it just says there's no lora. you have to let go anon the accident was a year ago
>>23694 nothing happens - bucketing
>>23698 supermerger is broken, you can open an issue ticket regarding that on the extension's github page
>>23698 >>23701 aren't you supposed to downgrade to a specific version to get it working?
>>23702 apparently, you just have to see which version
>>23704 Very cute
>>23708 yepp that's sovlful
Finally got a version of Based68 I'm satisfied with, too many days and I just decided that I wouldn't deal with vpred at the moment until there's a NAI vpred model or hll6 vpred model I can use to make it work better with NAI model merging. This version of Based68 was done by making schizo nai hll6 lyco merges with some of the models I put into the mixing recipe to make sure that some of the decent artist knowledge was still in there, it's not as good as hll6 and easyfluff but it still gets very notable artists right (you might need to up the tag of artist to 1.2 to get a more concrete appearance of their style) https://files.catbox.moe/sizp9i.txt <- txt file filled with the artists https://gofile.io/d/nKxELQ <- model will do a public release after some personal and anon testing
>>23710 Where does the txt file go and is it needed? I assume as much since you've included.
>>23712 oh the text file is just an artist wild card extension, if you have that extension you just add it to that otherwise you can easily pull up the artist with the autotagger with this .csv file, you just have to add this to the autotag complete extension tag folder https://pixeldrain.com/u/HRpYWizR
>>23710 but artist tags work well and even without it, LORAs will still look good without having to use artist tags that are embedded in NAI hll6 fluff
>>23713 From my use case I'm getting some garbage but it's 100% user stuff, messed with cfg rescale and it cleans up the image a bit. Got a catbox or some tips for usage with this since it obviously handles differently then previous iterations.
>>23715 this one doesn't need a specific yaml or CFG rescale, it's still a base 1.x NAI merge
>>23716 Guess I'll try restarting it and see what it does. I've tried with loras, without and it's pretty fuzzy. Might just be an issue loading it since I just downloaded it and refreshed my list instead of restarting sd.
>>23717 I have to make sure on my part too, I'll restart because sometimes automatic111 will keep the supermerged model on even after saving it
>>23718 >Supermerger Yeah I was messing with it so that might be fucking me. I'll say though b68 seems to blend really well into other mixes I was messing with.
>>23719 the meta data is complicated because a lot of the merging recipe is using Easyanon's old lyco merge.bat script and just merging hll6 nai into the models I wanted to use to make sure all the merges still kept some of Hll6 nai's artist knowledge. It's a lot more weaker compared to the Easyfluff version so that's the downside of it but it looks really bad with NAI based models so meh, nothing much I could have done there.
>>23720 I'll fiddle some more with it since one of hte earlier b67's was my favorite of yours by a long mile since b64. Guess I'll bite the bullet and update to 1.7 too and just do a full upgrade, see how bricked I can go.
>>23721 Ganbare, looking forward to the stuff you anons share, gens and opinions I'll keep a close eye before I feel chill enough to release it outside of here.
>>23721 Ooh that b67 looks very good, is it the same that si uploaded on civitai? If not, I would like to have it please
Have local prompters all roped yet?
have you stopped being brown yet
have you stopped being a nigger yet
sorry double-post
in unrelated news i am once again banned from 4chan for racism. does anyone have any suggestions to avoid this in the future? being less racist is not an option.
>>23729 Stop being triggered by crap. The more You fuck around the more You find out
speaking of merging.bat scripts, easyanon if you're still here and working on the GUI is it possible that you'll be adding the lora/lyco merging option to it in the future?
>>23730 i practice a gentle, paternalistic form of racism. someone has to periodically remind non-westerners that the reason their countries suck is because they're full of people like them, and perhaps if they practiced being less like themselves their countries would improve.
>>23732 That one is local? Catbox anyways pls Also It's not like one hundred million copies of yourself would be better for your country as well... I mean... One hundred million weak and petty losers who jerks off to AI anime porn would be really bad
>>23733 the info's all right there, projecting brownie-kun, but here you go anyway: https://files.catbox.moe/9498xh.png
>>23732 >and perhaps if they practiced being less like themselves their countries would improve you're not wrong and those who post on 4cucks probably already know that anyway t. thirdie
I haven't been around for weeks, I don't understand why the sudden hate towards people who don't wanna use corporate controlled models tied to subscriptions.
>>23736 Neither do I but I also won't hate on people that are paying for NAIv3 either.
>>23736 >sudden hate it's just mutual trolling and a bit of schizophrenia.
>>23736 imagine being this fucking retarded. get off the internet if your IQ is too low to tell trolls apart
>>23729 you sound like a nigger and im not talking about race
>>23740 it was maybe funny first 2 times he posted it but now this is some "how do you do fellow racists" cringe
Based68 is out for everyone, I don't know why but it doesn't look as sharp as 67, it kinda has a Based64 vibe... well maybe my "Based64/7" model I merged is the reason for that.
>>23733 That doesn't look like local, don't give me hopes.
>>23744 >prompt guidance rescale 0.7 why touch this?
>>23745 Depending on prompt(especially artists) and cfg, without rescale the images can look kinda oversaturated, almost fried. 0.7 was probably too much for those though.
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Is hydrus import script anon here? I found two cases where the script crashes. One at line 567, when the webui meta doesn't have a negative, because negatives = None at line 460, which I fixed by changing it to negatives = "". Second is for nai at line 635, when the meta doesn't have "Generation time". This one is more complex for me to figure out, see pic.
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Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth
>>23748 need more shondo
>>23749 based
>>23747 Also noticed it's very slow compared to the old june version when checking images that have no data, like seconds vs hours slow.
>>23753 probably the last one
What's the best Dagasi lora out at the moment and the best checkpoint to use with it?
>>23753 I love vampy lewds Wish she got more art
>>23758 my wife chino
>>23760 Catbox for all of those please, localbro
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Slightly plump
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Colonizing cunny.
>>23765 >Born too late to explore the world and colonize cunny FUCK
>>23767 Mana transfer erotic
>>23749 based fishfucker ruto > garbage > mipha
Measure your shit right or you too could end up with a tiny bathtub.
>>23772 based bathing enjoyer
>>23772 >>23773 One week and one tape measure later
>>23771 How do you get them this brown without any big emphasis anyway? I checked a bunch of your gens and you don't seem to have anything out of the ordinary. Is it the zankuro lora? I had to do like (dark skin, dark-skinned female:1.5) and they still turned out pretty light skinned.
>>23776 Zankuro probably helps but I'm also using the kasshokuhada LoRA pretty often now, it gives them darker skin.
why did i check spoilers this css is confusing
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My schizo daughterwife
>>23778 Nice. I should have done more bathing gens...
>>23783 Mleiry Christinas
>Rediscovered controlnet >Have to stop myself so I don't spend all xmas fiddling with dumb shit Merry xmas bros
https://huggingface.co/JosefJilek/loliDiffusion/tree/main The loli diffusion guy seems to be up to v14 now and taught me about loli models I didn't know about like Rabbit https://civitai.com/models/121696/rabbit
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xmas merry
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Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas
anybody have the haguhagu_(rinjuu_circus) lora?
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>>23793 Thanks!
>>23793 you could land a plane on that 6head
Based68 version 2, no major updates just updated some of the models I used in the first version with the updated version. HLL anon has released a lot more hll6 models but they're all fluff compatible so it won't look as good with NAI models, so I'm still using the NAI version of HLL6 with the merges. https://huggingface.co/AnonymousM/Based-mixes/blob/main/Based68-V2.safetensors https://huggingface.co/AnonymousM/Based-mixes/blob/main/Based68-V2-Pruned.safetensors
wow Civitai really are Australian politicians when it comes to sfw/r-15 cunny, rumao well at least the huggingface link still exists
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Welcomed home
Regional prompter is very strong even for prompting concepts that the model isn't trained well for. That said, gawd damn it's a lot of work to get this one. NAIbros, how hard is it to make this pose for you?
>>23803 You can get it with the right tags, extra weight on cunnilingus and anilingus tags, plus some luck. Would be much easier to inpaint but the failed gens are also really good
>>23805 Cool, thanks for sharing! I'm getting decent results now but the promptwork is a bit nuts. Using controlnet on a good gen is a massive help
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>>23807 Update, I think I got the regional prompting required for this pose down >>23808 With strenuous regional prompting it could probably be done. Haven't really tried yet though
>>23811 Third one is pretty nice.
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>>23797 is there a specific way to use this model? because the images im getting are fried.
>>23814 one comment said it had a orange tint but nothing like that ruamo, don't use CFG rescale
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>>23813 I'm liking the soft shading pseudo-3d that nai does
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Potato wives best wives.
I'm addicted to prompting bestiality in fluff. It outputs really good quality, way better than any nai merge combined with all the bestiality loras. Human eyes on dogs are really annoying though. No one bothers to tag them properly, so it's near impossible to remove them with negative prompt. Nai merges, on the other hand, always produce realistically looking animals, but they output nothing but eldritch horrors when you ask for sex. The only one that's sort of good at it is the fresh Based68.
>>23818 plump
>>23818 you should do: mahira (granblue fantasy), {{{{{{fat mons}}}}}}
>>23819 I was pretty disappointed with the results when I tried to get it to gen human on feral female. What do your prompts look like?
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B68 v2 pretty nice but ef still does lolis better
>>23824 Cute, I have yet to give B68v2 a try but I'll do that next year.
>>23824 which is which? right does child bodies better but I prefer left as im not sick in the head/browsing TOR at the moment.
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>>23824 I like left more.
>>23822 It's usually a prompt consisting of 3 parts: 1) general human language description 2) styles 3) refining tags Example: [human female penetrated by a huge realistically depicted domestic dog animal from behind, realistic, [werewolf|dog], bestiality, perspective, fisheye lens, ::0.5] END (by butterchalk:1.2), (by pumpkinspicelatte),by smewed, END (human:1.1), (domestic dog:1.1), bestiality, female on feral, female,feral,penetration, knot, younger female, adult on young, anal, anal penetration, pussy, long hair, tears, balls, pussy juice, genital fluids, huge breasts, sagging breasts, all fours, When I need some unique artist, I add a lora (even nai-based) to the end of the prompt (3) and add the artist tag to (2) or use hll lora. It's gacha. After generating something I like, sometimes hires.fix does the job, sometimes it's fatster to switch to nai-based merge for img2img.
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Just here to say Happy new year y'all!
>>23830 >>23829 Happy new year!
>>23811 >>23817 stealing these, I'm a sucker for that fizrot-esque pseudo-3d
>>23811 > 3 Please tell me how you did it. It's amazing.
>>23833 Use the catbox extension, it's NAI >rurudo lion, {{artist:dino (dinoartforame)}}, artist:s16xue, [[artist:fizrotart]], [[[[artist:dorontabi]]]], solo, 1girl, standing, ass focus, bent over, leaning forward, arched back, elbow rest, looking back, :o, skin fang, lion ears, extra ears, lion tail, nude, cleft of venus, hair intakes, ahoge, long hair, yellow eyes, indoors
>>23834 >{{artist:dino (dinoartforame)}}, artist:s16xue, [[artist:fizrotart]], [[[[artist:dorontabi]]]] Unfortunately I'm getting pretty fried eyes with that, gonna have to import one of the images and copy the other settings
>>23836 >Maybe try enabling smea (and DPM++ SDE) or add @_@ in negs Done, done and done.
>>23839 cute
>>23841 I'm more impressed that 4chan wasn't already pre-blocked. If true, anon might be in the clear because their IT security sucks ass >t. ITfag
>>23841 yeah he sure would be typing that out if thats what was going on. dogshit bait fanfic
>>23841 reading through /v/ threads feels almost same to reading through twatter
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i have a problem and keep downloading full checkpoints instead of style loras
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based68 is based i tell you hwhat
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Is based68 one of those vpred models? I still don't know what they really are and what makes them special. Can I get a qrd?
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>>23850 i tried it too but didn't like it. i prefer the vibrant, sharp and flatter shaded look of based68. pic is fluff with similar workflow and artists. maybe a skill issue.
>>23852 I apply the color autofix with the CFG Rescale or whatever it is called after I have done all my inpainting and stuff. I just img2img with 0 denoise and tick that option.
>>23853 But I would pick B68v2 any day over fluff for 1girls though.
>>23851 Based68 is just a merge between Based64 and the Hll6.3 lyco LoRA. It does not use vpred at all.
>>23855 So the only thing it has over regular models is artist knowledge?
>>23856 it seems to be better at concepts and poses compared to other anime models from my experience. also with artist knowledge comes character knowledge so you don't necessarily need a seperate lora for some characters.
>>23857 I see. So I don't need anything extra to make it work and old loras also work?
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>>23843 he wrote those words to make you smile and you chose to be mad and gay instead
>>23860 I stopped myself, one of my fan's ball bearings seems to have decided to shit itself.
>>23858 Basically, yeah. Might want to have in hand the artist's names that the model (or the merge lyco) recognizes
I'm gonna start collecting artist datasets now that I got some more free time and file storage Any artists (preferable if they have lots of stuff not on boorus unless its past the NAI model cutoffs) that people would wanna see?
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>>23850 Cute cows, hope the pc is in working order again soon
>>23864 Well the fan is spinning now but making a lot of noise, I still have my warranty so I'm just gonna take it to the local store I bought it at.
Hey all, I haven't been around for a long while, been pretty busy with life, but I was able to work on the UI a bit this new years! It's only on dev right now, but I added support for lycoris's new OFT model type among a ton of other bug fixes. I also updated (remade) the installer so that it better supports the newer torch versions, so now anybody who installs my scripts will be using torch 2.1.2! A few small bug fixes have also been made, and I plan on pushing to main either later today or tomorrow. The next thing on my list is to get a new training page for full scale fine-tuning up and running, 1, and get the lora utils added, 2. >>23731 As for this, yes! I do still lurk occasionally, but am unfortunately not able to be around as often as I'd like. I do have plans for adding those, but you'll have to wait, as my time for devving the project has been cut into a 10th of what it was.
>>23866 Oh, and, I'm not sure if anybody noticed or cares, but I also released all of the character lora that I've created over the last few months onto civitai a little bit ago, check them out if you want: https://civitai.com/user/derriandistro/models
>>23863 U mean for what model?
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Here I go training loras again
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>>23872 Wonder if the bathtub stuff will work. Are you prompting using the e621 tags, the booru tags or a mix?
>>23873 A mix of both, I'm currently working on something else but I'll give the bathtub a try when I'm done.
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>>23874 It has a decent understanding out of the box imo
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UOHG, toasted cunny is best cunny
>>23875 Yeah that's good, I can work with this for sure.
>>23859 What kind of artist combo gives this
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>>23872 based68 does tubs consistently but it also wants the whole tub to fit into the image lol
>>23880 I was gonna try both but coolio.
>>23879 oh right doing a composite in photoshop obliterates the metadata iirc it was just fizrot with a little bit of murakami suigun for nicer bondage
>>23849 Did you inpaint faces on the third one? The left looks like ishikei, the middle is ke-ta and idk which is the right one >>23871 Catbox for 2?
any models to recommend? i got based68 but no matter the version i use i get fried images
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>>23883 Sure >>23884 For me it was an issue with my vae. Afterwards I got based68 to work just fine. Easyfluff with hll6 is also pretty good. For that one you'll need some extra stuff cause it's a vpred model and you can use mix of e621 and booru tags
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>>23883 no inpainting for that one. i genned a base 3girl image for cn lineart and use that to align regional prompter with different artist tags. 3rd one is mignon. running the "final" image through img2img with cn tile at lowish control weight and lowish denoise strength can refine the image without necessarily needing to use masked inpainting. seems to cost some saturation, though.
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Succubi are also hot
>>23890 That's true and I don't gen that enough.
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>>23885 Thanks, anyway, got some experimental versions of that 40hara lora, if you would like to test the FR or nai version, probably overkill by now, since ef+hll is already can do that style pretty well, at least on a7 version >>23887 Interesting workflow, but did i remember incorrectly or regional prompter wasn't working with hires.fix part? > running the "final" image through img2img with cn tile at lowish control weight and lowish denoise strength can refine the image without necessarily needing to use masked inpainting. The refined image looks pretty nice, i'm interested about what values were you using for that, could you push a catbox example, so i could figure out the technical part of this myself?
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>>23892 it's gone. https://files.catbox.moe/p5wog9.png i'm generally using 0.25 control weight and 0.5 ending step without a preprocessor. i haven't noticed anything wonky with regional prompter with hires. fix.
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>>23893 I think i confused regional prompter with another extension with similar functionality. Trying with preprocessor and without gives me the same image, dunno why, but overall refining is pretty nice still. > Processor Res: 64, Threshold A: 64, Threshold B: 64 Cant find this settings in the cn menu, is this something important?
>>23894 nah, i only changed weight and end step
Anyone know if there's a lora of this princess connect character? I found one on pixai but pixai sucks fucking ass and downloads are disabled anyway
>>23892 No worries. I'm always down to test some versions of 40hara loras. Ef+hll can do the style pretty well, but it doesn't know characters like Chitose automatically. I still mix in the 40hara lora from civit to get the maid outfit correct
>>23892 Forgot to say, nice chitose. Also, were can one find an updated list of the hll supported artists? I know the new version can be found here https://huggingface.co/CluelessC/hll-test , but I can't easily find a list of artists
Can I somehow extract this hidden information of yours from already downloaded images? Dear creator of the catbox script, can you make another one so that i can run it in a folder with images and output the result to a file, please?
The Kirin armor LoRA works with ef+hll, it's so fucking over for me.
Just got back into proompting after taking a break for half a year. What's the new state of the art for local models. I see mentions of ef+hll here, what is that? Has there been any new tricks to Lora/Locon training?
>>23904 ef+hll is Easyfluff + that hololive/vtuber lyco/lora. You use hll to defurry Easyfluff, it also let's you prompt artist styles that's in hll by using "by artist". I will be using ef+hll for actual sex and b68v2 for 1girls. Here's a guide on how to get started, ignore the comfyui shilling: https://rentry.org/5exa3
>>23904 What did you use for Fu xuan and Hanabi? Can yo share if possible? >>23905 Dude it's insane how much comfy shilling there is these days. The one AI site I use for free genning these days added a workflow mode and it's literally just a comfyUI interface.
>>23906 Yeah and the more shilling I see the less likely I am to ever giving it a try.
>>23907 as a free user, I can't really be picky since I don't have my own GPU to gen on I haven't messed around with the workflow mode but it's probably the closest i'll get to local genning now that colab is fucking dead It's just such a shame comfy is so much worse than A111
>>23899 >>23900 > Forgot to say, nice chitose. Ty, sorry for late response, here the FR version of 40hara which not that great actually, but anyway https://files.catbox.moe/wit1jh.safetensors And this one is i think the best shot of all the tries for 40hara dataset, was trained on nai, but should work with ef+hll still https://files.catbox.moe/7suthr.safetensors Since links for tags and artists from another anon are dead already i'll reupload them too https://files.catbox.moe/58105m.csv https://files.catbox.moe/cmg3nw.txt
Isn't there a map tagging that basically has the Tag equivalences from danbooru to e621? Cuz the e621 tagger is not that great actually
>>23896 Can I request for someone that actually knows loras to try making a lora of this character? I made an attempt but it's basically only usable at 0.3 since the picture and the quality of it get fucked if I go higher Here's the images used https://imgur.com/a/9t5eG6M https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=quria_%28princess_connect%21%29+&z=5
why does 4ch hdg hate local now
>>23912 like 60% of the shitposting in any recurring thread comes from the same small group of people running from one end to the other like they're trying to rock a boat over
>>23913 It's just so dumb I miss the /hdg/ that felt more like bros helping each other and finding ways to improve their gens over the >Just buy a NAI sub, are you poor or something??
>>23914 >he thinks it's about owning poorfags and not a quality/effort ratio do localoids really?
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>>23916 pretty good inas
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>>23914 everything good is always fading
>>23905 Thanks bro, I'll check it out >>23906 My homebrew Loras. They're not the best quality. I had to do a lot of inpainting on the Hanabi image in particular. Here's a few more
>>23919 Hanabi looks good, I'm surprised you actually managed to get the mask right since sd always hates on masks.
>>23909 Thank you anon, I'll give them a shot soon >>23914 I think plenty of us are still here to just share gens and help each other improve. Ignore the bait, stay positive, share some good gens
>>23912 Most of it is just a stupid bait but retards with "lol nai actually sucks just inpaint bro are you a shill??" are genuinely annoying.
>>23911 If your fine with normal nai based models I'm fine with giving it a try
>>23923 Sounds great, please do.
>>23893 Is there really a point to that if you're not upscaling or style transferring? Or do you mean you do this in multiple steps little by little after hires fix, so it adjusts to the new res better in less drastic way?
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>>23925 it just works. even if you use cn tile and high denoise for the final upscale, passing that output through img2img again at same res, random seed, low control weight and low denoising strength, it gets improved. imo. if i used hires. fix, it would go something like this: >hires. fix to 1280x1024 >upscale with img2img to 1600x1280 with or without cn tile >pass it through img2img with low denoise and low cn weight >maybe pass it through img2img with low denoise and low cn weight again >inpaint final touches
>>23869 what model? sir...
>>23927 it's nai
>>23926 Great stuff, that pussy peek is really nice.
>>23928 It's over...
>>23930 not if you have 25 bucks /s
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>>23930 sorry dude
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>>23924 It's done, took a bit because I was at work, and the number of images meant testing was more important than usual, works fairly well, can do nudity, didn't test much more than just being nude though https://civitai.com/models/258865
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>>23933 some more nudity, sfw examples are on the civit page
>>23934 >>23933 wow this looks amazing, thank you so much.
>>23935 no problem! The fact that you gave it a try yourself was the main reason why I wanted to try and do something nice for somebody. (that and obviously, more cunny is good) Either way, hope you enjoy using it. It's not often that I make characters with only like 20 or so images, so it was a fun change of pace for me.
Wtf NAI why you pasting a dick in my completely non-lewd image
>>23708 Has anyone been able to get Wagashi's style working well? I've tried but it always seems to mess up faces a little
>>23939 shit i didn't mean to reply to that
>>23931 the audacity of genning anime cunny on something tied to your credit card...
>>23941 There are ways to pay indirectly (for additional fees). They really aren't gonna blackmail you or call anyway but you can take basic precautions if you are feeling paranoid. I love the cunny it makes so I just can't resist.
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>>23941 >the audacity of genning anime cunny on something tied to your credit card... what are they gonna do, arrest me? lol imagine living in the cucknited states of jewmerica
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>>23941 >>23941 >>23943 third worlders inventing reasons to compliment themselves again
>>23942 How do you pay for NAI without a cc?
Looking at the openmodeldb site (apparently where upscalers wiki moved) and it seems like there's quite a few new models. I've been using lollypop for regular upscaling for as long as I can remember, are any new ones much better?
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>>23946 visa gift cards work
Found this model hat seems kinda nice https://tensor.art/models/632563024143657288 The author disabled downloads but I managed to grab V2 while it was available here if anyone that knows more about models wants to check it out since idk if it's actually good or not, I just gen casually. https://mega.nz/file/C7QUwYKD#OQmc1ZUU4vp7DYAELaTMAhe-jxGVmIj5E5FVOT-0Wdg
Anyone know how to set up Sagemaker without having to bind it to my real person? I want to set it up but I don't want to give them my full data
>>23955 heard it's very good but the creator is a bit schizo, especially for style he doesn't want artist tags at all and prefers descriptions of the style instead
>>23893 >"PuffyPussyv2: 8cec737fcb1c" Where can I find this? Can you share please?
>>23955 Spat out rainbows for a while, but after I changed the vae to something sdxl compatible, it's workable. Seems to be pretty good at anatomy and composition, but the style is all over the place if you don't specify anything, and figuring out exactly what to describe feels like it's going to be a pain. Also takes a good while to generate on my outdated gpu, but I'm pleasantly surprised I can run it in the first place. And I noticed my colors looked washed out. Does it need the cfg rescale too, like the furfag model?
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>>23958 it's not really needed and you can usually get away with just (pussy, cleft of venus, innie pussy:1.1) or something like that and have clitoris, spread pussy in the negs. based68 seemed to struggle somewhat for whatever reason. https://files.catbox.moe/8gjfim.safetensors first one is without, second with and last is only the final upscale with it (i do this). i tried to make it as light as possible but you can still see some style and eye change. i didn't crop the heads out from all images so maybe i'll try that.
>>23945 mald
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Why do the furries get all the nice free models
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>>23963 Animagine 3 and Pony Diffusion v6 just came out and both are intentionally gimped by pruning artist tags
>>23955 >Any explicit content involving underage characters has been filtered out. Useless garbage
>>23955 Only the two-faced furrfags are able to train a model full of the most vomit-inducing zoophilia, while also taking the moral high ground by purging it of cunny.
Animagine could be good if it's ever finished
>>23966 That's the thing with furries, they have MOTIVATION and money but they're way more schizo than us. Meanwhile Anime fans don't have the money with all the autism they contain
Does NAIv3 know Masuda's style? I noticed his page was taken down from danbooru
>>23969 doesn't seem to
>do you think anyone's noticed?
>>23966 I've seen people denounce those who like anime cunny as literally hitler then turn around to masturbate to guro and yaoi shota so im not surprised anymore by these things
fiz-rot deleted his pixiv, misskey, and baraag pour one out for a real one
>>23967 >>23964 Do you gen on sdxl locally or do you use some service for it?
>>23972 it's just a way to feel better about yourself >Well yeah I masturbate to gay guro knot scat vore, but at least I'm not like THOSE disgusting cunnyfags!
>>23965 Ah, no wonder I felt like I was having trouble getting flat chests. Into the trash it goes.
>>23972 funnily enough cunny is the only normal one out of them all. at least assuming its not single digits.
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>>23974 Local, SDXL works fine in A1111. If anything I get less vram errors genning at high res with SDXL than SD1.5
>>23978 Very nice and very impressive Do you use any loras for these? And what card do you have?
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>>23979 I haven't even checked if there's any SDXL loras worth using, just been seeing what pony and animagine can do. I have a 3060Ti
>>23964 Picked up animagine after seeing this and been trying to prompt nahida covering privates I'm amazed at how perfectly it gets her without loras
>>23975 yeah it is sort of funny how people feel better when they can shit on a group >Well yeah I masturbate to guro of pregnant dogs being fucked by lions but at least i'm not like those disgusting cunnytard losers ew My take is to just be and let be. It'd be so much better if people worked together rather than against each other and intentionally neuter their models just to spite a group of people.
>>23981 >>23978 >>23964 damn, these look good. my 10GB VRAM card can only do up to 700x1050 before it craps out and it looks way too blurry at that resolution. Should I just pull the trigger on a 4090 or should I wait for the 5090 that's coming out in a year?
>>23983 just stack 3090s
>>23981 >>23983 >my 10GB VRAM card can only do up to 700x1050 before it craps out and it looks way too blurry at that resolution. That's weird. Even with medvram/tiled vae?
>>23980 >>23978 which model is best for nsfw?
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>>23986 Pony is way more versatile. It doesn't know characters or styles like NAI does but it doesn't have the advantage of loras like EF does. I still have yet to see everything it can and can't do Animagine almost feels like it's halfway between SD1.5 and SDXL but exceeds at genning vtubers and gacha characters. Styles barely work and a lot of tags just straight up don't work because of the limited training data
>>23987 Do you use the sdxl vae or a diff one?
Invoke got a pretty nice overhaul ngl
>>23982 >My take is to just be and let be My take is to double, triple, quadruple, quintuple, dodecuple down until you've absolutely broken them in multiple ways (having the """audacity""" to go against them breaks their ego, cunny sickens them, eventually outnumbering them destroys their morale, etc) You never, ever give retards even a single inch.
>>23966 Their shills are just as two-faced, just in different ways.
>>23990 eye for eye leaves the world blind someone will always find a way to out-autism you so it'd be better if people could just work together or tolerate each other most of these retards think they're so above it all then they turn around and say the cringiest shit or fap to actually sick shit but "it's ok at least im not a lolifag" I find it's better to simply ignore them since fighting or even arguing with them is a waste of time and effort and look for more reasonable people instead of attempting to argue with the weeby trans faggot that self-identifies as a genderfluid dinosaur and thinks anyone that sexualizes lolis deserves death
>>23992 >someone will always find a way to out-autism you hahahahahahahahahahahaah No. >I find it's better to simply ignore them since fighting or even arguing with them is a waste of time and effort and look for more reasonable people instead of attempting to argue with the weeby trans faggot that self-identifies as a genderfluid dinosaur and thinks anyone that sexualizes lolis deserves death You can do both at once. The mold will keep spreading if you don't take care of it fast enough.
>>23992 >bro just don't bro leave them alone bro
>not posting loli porn is a communist plot you know what, i support this. ganbare, retard crusader-kun.
What's the best non-xl model right now?
>>23996 quite literally still b64 or b68
amazing how horsefuckers can actually prompt two ponies fucking each other and try to take the moral high ground over anyone
>>23890 catbox for the last pls?
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any tips n trix to get b68 output more saturated pictures? i like everything else about it but it often has this washed out gray look after upscaling/inpainting. prompting high saturation with low saturation neg kinda helps but not really. is it inherent to the model or it is just my artist combo?
surprised these sdxl models know who shuro is given that she came out very recently like last month
was animagine trained on only gacha characters?? how come it knows bailu and shuro but has no idea who is nobeta or elaina
>>24002 This is a list of all the characters it knows apparently https://files.catbox.moe/kg90td.txt
>>24003 >only vtubers and gacha this is so funny
>>24004 lol I fucking hate zoomoids more with each passing day
Animagine seems to do both loli and sex well No catbox because I made these with collab diffusers which doesnt save gen info but I found it bretty easy to use It wont go smaller to like anya but its mighty usable Whats not easy is dealing with the yakuza at my door
>>24006 >Whats not easy is dealing with the yakuza at my door it's not funny unless you actually post it on pixiv
>>24004 it seems to know plenty of other characters like touhou/pokemon, it's just like any other anime model where it's heavily weighted towards chars who have the most images...
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>>24005 Gachas are fun the communities will make you descend into madness
>>24009 okay yeah nevermind this is garbage. it looked promising but it also has no artist tags, instead lynn went through an aesthetic tuning round with a completely synthetic dataset for some fucking reason???? it's also pretty bad at NSFW even though it can do loli. pony on the other hand seems much better at nsfw and characters but it also has artist tags pruned and loli is filtered out.... I'm resigning to the fact we're never going to get a public XL anime model that doesn't have dumb caveats so it's back to waiting for a better architecture to pop up I guess.
>>24011 animagine seems 'usable' like it's downright retarded and borderline unusable if you arent prompting a popular gacha char but usable if you are I havent managed to get pony to do one good looking pic so the learning curve feels like too much
>>24015 Check the rest of the comments. Uploader fucked up and forgot to upload the model at first.
>>24016 Can you cook up some sample pics to see what it looks like?
>>24014 downloading this but it seems to be nonsense based on the images referencing a different checkpoint name
>>24017 Finally finished downloading so I'll see what I can do. My computer is potato so it might take a while. >>24018 I've found it's pretty typical that people's "internal" names for their loras are different than what they publish them as, sometimes even the filename doesn't match up with what they name it on CivitAI so I don't think you can necessarily take the fact that the name is different on the generated image as proof that it's a different checkpoint.
>>24014 The model at least replicates the example images but the claim of 10M steps of artist tag training is absolute bullshit, it doesn't recognize anything. Genitals are fucked up and the style looks like shit. Likely a garbage rebranding of kohakuxl. >>24014 Fuck you for getting me excited about a v3 leak.
>>24020 >The model at least replicates the example images but the claim of 10M steps of artist tag training is absolute bullshit
>>24020 Kek, where did I imply that this was a v3 leak? I meant grab it because the uploader wasn't subtle about it being trained on cunny, one of the preview pics is literally two lolis in underwear which is sure to get it deleted eventually.
>>24022 if someone was going to leak then they def wouldnt do so on civitai of all places
>>24023 It's exactly what the chinks would do. Call it something else and dump it somewhere.
surely someone will make a sdxl model that doesnt suck ass someday
https://civitai.com/models/65214/age-slider would it be possible to train a lora like this for sdxl? it was pretty useful before people trained proper models designed for smaller chars and I never used it again
>>24020 yeah, all right. assuming chink numbers work like they do in japanese, I'll accept that the 100M was an honest mistake. Have you tried any artists other than the ones mentioned in the description?
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>>24014 Best I could get. Not the greatest model by any means. I guess we'll have to keep hoping and coping for a leak. Sorry to any anons whose hopes I got up.
>>24028 can you share some cumfy workflows? most of the online sites shill it hardcore and I cannot be bothered to make my own
>>23989 they finally tidied shit up
going back to my roots with sex machine stuff after spending too long wrangling xl models
yo Based anon here, I'm motivated thanks to Biboo, Based69 will be out soon but I will be doing personal requests for the sake of making money to gachi on her. Take care lolibros
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>>23999 Late, but here you go. As you can see it required some inpainting
>>24032 I didn't understand this post
>>24034 Biboo: Koseki Bijou Gachi: Gachikoi, to superchat and donate to her
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>>24032 >M O T I V A T E D
her main thread is pretty bad I scared off a schizo to ban me because I brought up chumfeds and "people watching" :D
>>24036 you have her LORA? I want to make one but I need to image collect with hydrus
>>24037 I know who it is tho, it's some fucker with a watame avatar, I can try to shadowban them youtube and google are pretty schizo with a lot of things (i'm trying to nuke some taiwanesefag that gifts subs but in ARS)
>>24038 Nope that was animagine 3. And this is NAI. There's an older one on civitai but at that point you may as well use EF+HLL or B68
>>24033 thanks
>>24040 ok thanks buddy, also shit I really have to weed this schizo out. What a brown skin faggot now I'm glad I'm a FeeD
>>24042 ok weeded em out jesus Fauna and Watame really makes brownskin pagpag faggots into monsters hhuh
>>23852 catbox? That's a really nice detailed pussy
>>24045 what the fuck is this schizophrenia? you fuckers belong in a trannycord server
>>24047 Lol this guy has been around for more than 10 years, he thinks he's smart but his posting stye is so obvious that I'm not even surprised, the fan this fucker is attacking is a vet, he's attacking him because he sends money and messages to Biboo's chat despite being a wholesome dude. Anyways sorry board owner, I just find it really pathetic that a dude can ruin threads and boards for more than 10 years just because they get jealous of former Gura fans sending money to "muh new Gura'
>>24047 also it might be /here/ shit but idk if you're him, that schizo isn't stupid so if it is you behave yourself, this place doesn't take your shit chameleon schizo
What do you guys think about Based68? I just don't like the orange tint, it makes kfl8.vae look like shit
>>24050 sepia neg fixes most of the yellow
>>24051 Really? Thanks, I was wondering what else I can do to fix it because I feel like using an old hardcore nsfw model fucks you over with that more AOM2 look or orange tint, Based66 was really the best
>>24049 >>24048 >>24047 >>24045 guys please keep the vtuber autism outside....
>>24053 lol no worries, I got the fucker he shouldn't be coming here anymore :D
While I cook autism for wholesome autism do you guys have any new updates? Been gone since I released Based69, not happy with it I just want HLL anon to release another NAI based finetune.
Anyone can identify wich loras this artist called Lativi uses? I can tell just by looking at it that one of the loras is the Soichiro Yamamoto artstyle, the one who made the loli ninja anime Kunoichi Tsubaki no Mune. But I'm a bit lost on the other ones, can anyone help me? I really want to replicate this style Artis page on atf: https://booru.allthefallen.moe/posts?tags=lativi_%28ai_generator%29&z=1
>>24056 Looks like atte nanakusa
https://showlab.github.io/X-Adapter/ >X-Adapter, a universal upgrader to enable the pretrained plug-and-play modules (e.g., ControlNet, LoRA) to work directly with the upgraded text-to-image diffusion model (e.g., SD-XL) without further retraining. Waiting to try this out when the code is ready (if ever).
fucking hell the vtuber community is a cesspit, no wonder why I liked generating Biboo on the Based models, alright lads I'm motivated thanks to her, expect Based69 in a week
Looking at pixiv pic metadata pays off sometimes, really cute style mix.
>>24060 uoooooohhhh, also glad to be back here, I can't believe you guys are more calm and collected than 4chan
>>24061 Very uoooooohhhh indeed. Welcome back. This place is usually more chill than 4chan, yes.
>>24062 Yeah off topic you can delete it board owner because the faggot is keeping his eyes on me thinking I'm some vet gachi, nah that cringe fucker motivated me along with Biboo, it's so tiring looking at Jarkata schizo posts man, you guys are better.
>>24063 I miss Zaion, I'll be keeping an eye on her roomate just in case any Nijischizos want to attack her
>>24063 Pretty sure he only ever deletes 3dpd shit.
>>24065 the rules here are pretty lax like dont post shit against global sitewide rules that would anger global mods and you're golden You should still leave the vtuber drama/autism outside though....
>>24066 >You should still leave the vtuber drama/autism outside though.... I didn't understand any of that vtuber autism so yeah I agree.
>>24067 yeah no worries, it's venting, just all vets that fought for us to have the freedom to post our cunny here deserve rest
>>24068 no I'll just spam cunny here whenever I'm bored
>>24070 cute girl stuck in shitty game
>>24072 they gave her huge tits, luna teri at least, there's still Komugi tho (almost every Yukarin voice character that's a loli has big tits in the later part of the story..)
>>24056 This looks like mix of a bunch of artists or something like Rabbit https://civitai.com/models/121696/rabbit with maybe a couple loras on top. I'm seeing healthyman/yamamoto souichirou/dorontabi/ for overall style, tianliang duohe fangdongye/lakilolom for the eyes, and maybe a bit of bee (deadflow)/wagashi (dagashiya). I could be way off though
>>24073 eh its only been honkai I see that absolutely loathes their loli chars idk who hates them more, their fanbase or or hoyo themselves
How are the cucked sites treating loli models? Civitai decided to nuke my Based69 preview images due to "underage" >>24075 it's more like a commie china thing, you heard about em getting rid of dailies right? That's why I stopped playing and came back to AI a lot more.
>>24076 Huggingface seems ok with models, even loli ones. Most other sites will throw a hissy fit over loli. Civitai especially has ALWAYS been pissy about "underage looking characters" >it's more like a commie china thing, you heard about em getting rid of dailies right? Nah they went back on that almost immediately. Fired the lawmaker that did so and reversed course by approving 100+ backlogged games in a desperate attempt to damage control because tencent and netease lost 70 billion in shares from the news Honkai seems to hate loli in general anyway. Genshin adds some token lolis here and there as a dripfeed but is obsessed with making them all supports and Blue Archive seems like the last bastion of loli stuff with how every other game is all hags and big tits these days
>>23950 On the topic of loli, i've been using this model I found for the sole reason that it gens cute small girls pretty easily but idk if it's actually good
>>24077 Yeah that makes sense, also shit I saved a vet... man this place and some vtuber fans are good despite the schizos... mmm TeriKiana :D
>>24081 Goblin Slayer S2 was only bad because like the movie the priest kid got bigger breasts :(
>>24058 First lora I'm trying out is the age related ones on animagine to gen cute lolis
post more cunny
>>24084 yeah one sec, youtube is so stupid it hasn't gotten the schizo that shits up here too, I wonder if it's because he's a user from 2013... anyways CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY
also I know you're the one making the low quality bait posts, I'll make sure you are banned from your shit hole, leave the vet pebble alone and leave us cunny chads alone UOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH
Also don't think you can scare me by calling me, I've had actual pedos try to scare me with that from the darknet, you're not cool
bro chill the fuck out already holy shit
>>24090 Nah he's been here for too long, also I'm done
>>24090 Also I know it's you, stop being so obvious you're not smart at all, enjoy your time being a schizo while I compile a report and post cunny
>>24095 >Also I know it's you, No idea who's chasing you in your mind but relax, breathe, go for a walk. Just please remember this is a board for anime porn and AI, not vtuber autism and the majority of people posting have no idea what you're talking about. If you want to fight whoever then go do it on /vt/ and not here.
>>24099 I know sorry, vtuber autism he's just here I put in a report, ban him ok? thx
Miyu sex
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NAIkeklmfaolmaomyassoff-bros, how to erase all metadata from NAI pics?
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I need to organize with hydrus then I can find which pictures I actually like
>>24108 thanks buddy
Is there a way in NAIv3 to make the character's features to stop bleeding so much onto eachother?
>>24105 >>24106 Would be nice if you posted a couple images at once instead of one by one. Makes it less spammy
>>24104 why not do it the old fashioned way and strip it manually
>>24111 hmm maybe you should get a life jarkata schum :D
who could have thought that the basedmix guy is a legit schizo
>>24114 vtubers do that to you
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what le schizophrenia is happening here?
>>24113 Based69 XL when. Love your models.
Do I suck at proompting or is easyfluff+hll unable to generate footjobs?
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>>24120 haven't ever prompted them much, it does seem a bit hard, but then again I may suck at prompting too
>>24121 >REAK instead of BREAK I do suck at prompting. This fucking error will follow me for a while since I made that for a batch and then the contamination spread
>>24123 This one's good but the model got confused where to put the small penis tag. Not like I mind.
>>24119 How do you even work with XL?
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Sloppy bj
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Love shower, what she deserves Lmfao I got banned for 3 days on 4cuck for posting illya cunny
>>24127 >Lmfao I got banned for 3 days on 4cuck for posting illya cunny All I got for Kuro were warnings. Guess they finally got fed up with the increased cunnyposting
Well I took care of the freelancer : D
>>24127 Is this local? Catbox?
Love when prompts give me Evangelical horrors
>>24132 It's NAIv3.
Trying to learn how to openpose How do I fiddle with this so it listens more to my propmt and loras?
>>24136 >removing NAI meta for pics you upload here Faggot.
Does anyone have some good artist suggestions that work with hll?
>>24139 Stop crying I got the prompt from this one: https://files.catbox.moe/8v50rd.png But I got bad news, it seems they updated or changed the model and even trying same settings and seed I cannot get the same results, specially old gens
becomes more human as soon as I give it an expression lel >>24140 If you have the tag autocomplete file you can check for all your favorites I find myself going with mixes that often involve asutora, shpo, or cinomoon (by shinomu \(cinomoon\), by ohisashiburi, by shpo:0.8) (by ohisashiburi, by nonco:0.8), by shpo by asutora, (by shpo:0.8) (by asanagi, by shinomu \(cinomoon\), by asura \(asurauser\):0.8) by bluefield, by shinomu \(cinomoon\) by asutora, (by shpo:0.8), by kairunoburogu by asutora, by nyantcha, by shpo by ikr \(artist\), by shpo These in particular are '(by ohisashiburi, by nonco:0.8), by shpo' with a NAI wada lora at 0.6 that mainly affects the eyes
What happened with the Gayshit page?
Any tips for cunny prompting with the pony model? Everything I try gets freakishly long legs Or alternatively, has anyone tried a lora for it?
>>24145 Very nice anon >pouring onto self Gotta experiment with this now.
Apparently the secret cheat code for loli was adding by aaaa \(quad-a\) and suddenly we're very small
>>24154 The rentry made me think it was something else since I don't usually pay attention to artists but the girls it gens are younger than SD 1.5 models trained on loli which is quite funny
Bros im finally getting the hang of pony...
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Don't mind Meido's wife I don't know how she got here
>>24152 It's getting a lot of use from what I'm seeing. Nice combo.
Has there been any advancements in local or should i just renew NovelAI?
>>24163 Pony needs more loli artist loras
Feel like my gens with pony aren't as good as everyone elses but i'm still trying to figure out this dumb model
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>>24162 >>24163 Wait, people actually make generate NSFW (loli) images on NovelAI? Thought everyone (with a strong enough GPU) was using some kind of local system disconnected from the Internet. Also, doesn't NAI ban lolis from getting generated?
>>24169 >Wait, people actually make generate NSFW (loli) images on NovelAI? Yeah >Thought everyone (with a strong enough GPU) was using some kind of local system disconnected from the Internet Nah >Also, doesn't NAI ban lolis from getting generated? Absolutely not
>>24163 what is the pony model missing, exactly?
>>24142 BASED kirliafucker
>>24170 More questions then. How many actually bother to subscribe to NovelAI as opposed to setting up a local system of sorts? Is it better then Stable Diffusion and the like in regards to this thread's content? Finally, is NAI as secure/encrypted as they claim, since they no longer ban lolis (I swear lots were freaking about about them doing just that a year ago)? Basically weighing the worth between shiny new 8GB VRAM GPU and giving NovelAI a spin. Note that I never used this stuff at all so shit like prompts and LORAs are greek to me.
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>>24173 >How many actually bother to subscribe to NovelAI as opposed to setting up a local system of sorts? Enough for it to still be profitable, especially with how good V3 is compared to V1 - it's a small miracle they survived the leak without going down. >Is it better then Stable Diffusion and the like in regards to this thread's content? It's still Stable Diffusion, it's a finetuned SDXL model (something that people scoffed at for months and months until NAI actually did it right) >Finally, is NAI as secure/encrypted as they claim, since they no longer ban lolis (I swear lots were freaking about about them doing just that a year ago) They've NEVER banned lolis and there's no way to track what you generate, they don't store anything on their servers at least for the image generation side, not sure about the text gen side. As for the security the company was born just to prevent another AI Dungeon fiasco from happening again - ironically they care(d) more about their customers' security than their own (I'm sure you've heard about the V1 leak)
>>24173 >>24174 Also >8GB VRAM Absolute bare minimum (6 is a miserable experience so NO, I dont consider it the bare minimum) to prompt with XL models at acceptable speeds, I'd imagine that LoRAs are only gonna increase the requirements. What shiny new GPU are you trying to get that still has 8GB? Don't get AMDs, they're near useless for SD unless you get something like an XTX.
>>24176 meant to upload this one too, fuck
>>24174 >>24175 >Enough for it to still be profitable, especially with how good V3 is compared to V1 - it's a small miracle they survived the leak without going down. So the local model is two versions behind. Assuming no restrictions are in place of the V3 model, that would make it superior. >It's still Stable Diffusion, it's a finetuned SDXL model (something that people scoffed at for months and months until NAI actually did it right) Not exactly a yes or no so I'm assuming it all depends on how experienced the user is. I'm especially curious about the specialized locals like >>23786. >>24175 >Absolute bare minimum (6 is a miserable experience so NO, I dont consider it the bare minimum) to prompt with XL models at acceptable speeds, I'd imagine that LoRAs are only gonna increase the requirements. What shiny new GPU are you trying to get that still has 8GB? Don't get AMDs, they're near useless for SD unless you get something like an XTX. If need be, I'll splurge for a 12GB VRAM model. Something in the RTX-3000 range, so obviously Nvidia. Heard nothing but problems with AMD. And for the record, my current GPU has a measly 2GB. God knows if even that can handle NovelAI stuff provided I cave in and subscribe to their scroll tier.
>>24178 >So the local model is two versions behind It's more complicated than that, all three models run on different architectures (but V1 and V2 are similar enough) and I can't tell you any more because frankly I never really looked that deep into it. Point is, local is gonna play catch-up forever (though another leak would be nice) All of this started because V1 got leaked in what people still think is a 0-day on Github (no it's not lol), if it wasn't for that there probably wouldn't be a local scene because the only anime-focused effort was (comparatively) lightyears behind. >Not exactly a yes or no so I'm assuming it all depends on how experienced the user is. Not exactly, all the prompt engineering in the world won't save you from the limitations of the current local models/finetunes. You can get half-way there with enough effort but that means having to unfuck furry-focused models (and dealing with all the side-effects of that) and hoping you have enough VRAM to stack the LoRAs you need. >If need be, I'll splurge for a 12GB VRAM model. Something in the RTX-3000 range The best bang for your buck cards are used 3090s NON-Tis, preferably EVGAs. They have the same capabilities as 4090 when it comes to SD (but they're not as fast, obviously) >my current GPU has a measly 2GB. God knows if even that can handle NovelAI stuff provided I cave in and subscribe to their scroll tier. You don't need a GPU at all for that, it's all in the cloud. The only downside is that you'd better save shit and not close the tab mid-generation because nothing is saved on their servers, once you close the tab it's all gone. Also don't subscribe to the scroll tier, subscribe to the opus tier, that's the one with the free generations at up to 2048 combined pixels (scroll still costs credits to generate)
>>24179 So to wrap it in a nutshell, locals are free long term and are capable enough but require a pricey upfront cost in the form of a VRAM heavy GPU and technologically speaking, will always be behind. NovelAI (and whatever competitors that exist) demands a subscription but cloud magic takes the GPU out of the equation and is the most flexible in regards to artstyles...I think? Checked the NovelAI tag on Pixiv and the results proved varied enough. Thing is, due to a whole other project (way off topic and long story) I may as well get the GPU even if I go all in on NovelAI. Local shop within transit distance has a fair amount, including a MSI NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2x Overclocked Dual Fan 12GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 for $299. Seems to be slowly but steadily selling out so I best make up my mind fast. The store has no EVGA cards. A shame, as my current GPU is EVGA. May also need to get a PSU while I'm at it, just in case. Finally, I do wonder if gift cards and throwaway emails work. Probably won't resort to that but just in case. Not like it's my cloud I'd be genning on and there's no telling what'll happen in the future. Nevertheless, thank you very much for your patience.
>>24180 >So to wrap it in a nutshell, locals are free long term and are capable enough but require a pricey upfront cost in the form of a VRAM heavy GPU and technologically speaking, will always be behind Yes. Emphasis on the "enough" part of "capable enough" because the amount of "effort" required to get comparable results is (comparatively) quite high between LoRAs (which are not as fast and easy to train as on older architectures) required to reintroduce characters and artists (in layman's terms anyway), the resources needed for inference (actually generating the picture) and whatever might poison the finetune you want to use (for example the pony model """people""" are shilling is a quarter anime, a quarter furry, a quarter pony and a quarter comic or something like that) plus natural language and tags combining when you don't want them to. A lot more shit can go wrong due to the nature of these models, right now we don't have anything close to V3 that's anime-only, only the pony model can get halfway there for nsfw stuff. There's also a furry model for an older architecture but you need to unfuck it really hard and it still produces uncanny valley shit. I'm not trying to discourage you and I'll fully admit that after trying V3 and seeing the alternatives I'm fucking glad I don't have to deal with that shit. >NovelAI (and whatever competitors that exist) demands a subscription but cloud magic takes the GPU out of the equation and is the most flexible in regards to artstyles...I think? NAI has quite a few artists baked-in but keep in mind that the dataset is from September 2023 or so and artists with less than at the very, very, very least 50 pics won't really work. You can add more artists on local, that's what LoRAs are for but with the new architecture the training requirements and time more are higher than before. >on pixiv It's mostly garbage there to be honest >3060 12gb You'll be fine but it's gonna be slow(er than NAI). If you also need a new PSU you might as well buy into NAI to be brutally honest. I'm not quite sure about the generation times on ponyxl + LoRAs, one of the UIs you can use is a bit faster and noticeably lighter than the others but it's also node-based, you could probably get away with that but people started steering away from it. >Finally, I do wonder if gift cards and throwaway emails work. Probably won't resort to that but just in case. Not like it's my cloud I'd be genning on and there's no telling what'll happen in the future. Nevertheless, thank you very much for your patience. Throwaway emails? Sure. Gift cards? I'm not sure, their payment processor only accepts paypal or credit cards. You can however ask a friend to buy you a gift key. As for the privacy concerns nothing is stored on their servers, they take a "the less we know the better" approach because again, the AI Dungeon fiasco was a shitshow. The Opus tier gives you 10K credits (important: they REFILL each month, they do NOT stack), if you want you can buy a gift key (pretty sure there are resellers out there) and try it out, once the subscription runs out you can use those 10K to keep generating images until they run out, at the default settings those are about 500 images
>>24181 Your hate for horsefucker model is just irrational. Not everyone is willing/able to use a $25/month cloud service. I haven't even used it myself as I am NAIfag (for now) but there are plenty of pretty good results posted. Who fucking cares if it was made by some ponytard if it suits your needs? You can rename it to kemonodiffusion for your personal use if ponies trigger you THAT much. I mean, what else do localfags have now? EF(which is also a fucking knot model) which seems to be worse than pony and aomslop that is just extremely outdated now?
>>24182 Cry me a river.
@24183 kek
>>24180 >3060 just save up for 40xx I think. SDXL is huge already and next year we'll probably need even more compute.
>>24185 yeah or just get a used 3090, the market will probably be flooded by them as soon as next gen cards drop.
>>24186 They went up in price again and the guy has 300, maybe 350/380 bucks if he needs a new PSU. A used 3090 is at least double that without accounting for the PSU
>>24187 Make that $400-$500, if it comes down to it. The PSU in question has 200W above the supposed requirement of the 3060, just in case. It's too much of a hassle to open my current PC to check how many W its current PSU is but considering the power requirements of my current GPU, probably not that high and I barley changed anything in a decade. Also, I'm getting these in an actual store. Wary of ordering parts online and upside is that I get it ASAP. I'll give NAI a spin next month after the usual IRL expenses are paid for. $25 is too much on top of fanbox/fantia even with the low yen so I might just pay for the month and hope whatever I tell it to make impresses me.
>>24187 yeah my bad didn't read the higher reply chain >>24188 yeah for sure a 3060 is the best price to energy performance when it comes to budget AI cards atm, NAI rn is a decent paid alternative despite its monthly fee for anyone with insufficient hardware.
In case anyone is interested, I added category colors and aliases to the hll6 tag autocomplete csv from here >>23713 by merging the default danbooru.csv and e621.csv into it. Artist tags should now have proper colors as well as normal tags shouldn't be orange anymore. Aliases should offer the proper tag to use. There are some conflicts, because the hll6 dataset used multiple forms of the same tags I guess, but at least it offers you a choice with counts. There are some tags that weren't present in the defaults, so I gave them the default light blue color. https://files.catbox.moe/tp8kld.csv
>>24180 >>24181 If you want to see the difference between local and nai, you can download the catbox script in the op. With it, if you right click the box icon next to the filename or a catbox link, it will show you the metadata, and local and nai are formatted differently. The box icon is also green for files that were uploaded through the script (filenames start with "catbox_") and for non-catboxed files it thinks are from nai (which store metadata in the alpha layer, which isn't lost on upload), but you can try it for any file.
>>24188 A year of NAI is cheaper than the upfront cost of the 3060 alone and you can use it anywhere without needing to keep your main machine running all day. I don't get how 25 bucks on top of the monthly expenses are too much but paying 500 bucks upfront is completely fine.
>>24195 With the 3060 you can do more than just gen images though. After a year you'd also still own that 3060 so that's worth something
>>24196 That's true but it sounds like he wants a new GPU just for stable diffusion and that it's not a small hit to his finances. At that point he might as well sub.
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>>24159 You're not wrong
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>>24197 That's a fair point. >>24188 My recommendation would be to sub for a month and see if you like the whole stable diffusion thing. Lurk around in the meantime and see what local and NAI gens get posted here or on other boards. This way you're not down a big investment and you get to see what's best for you
>>24199 I like how you alternated them, that's oddly satisfying
>wasted 750? anals trying to remember the recommended values for enhancing >just lucked out I'm ever so slightly upset. What were they again? I've been using 0.5/0.1 and it works alright-ish in most cases. Definitely don't turn the strength any lower than 0.45 (though honestly that's still too low) or bad shit happens. Noise at 0.1 is also the absolute max I'd use, any higher and it starts filling the image with confetti. Anyway, I just remembered the thread is wedding-themed.
>>24201 (this one was 0.5/0.03, I THINK 0.03 is the value people used to recommend)
The crossover no one asked for.
>>24195 >>24196 >>24197 >>24199 Subscribing is inevitable, but as I said there's another project that'll require my current (and old) GPU to be repurposed for another build soon-ish (sometime within Q1, but it hinges on a chronically sold out case that I can't substitute for due to its unique shape and size), so I'm taking the opportunity to upgrade. I likely won't leap straight into using locals, just in case. If NAI really impresses me I may as well stick to just that.
>>24204 >that'll require my current (and old) GPU to be repurposed for another build Both in the same setup? That can't end well On another note, if you want you can just sub every other month, just sub once, cancel and use the 10k credits to generate during the following month (though it's just 500 pics at the default settings)
>>24205 Fine, I'll risk going off topic. I'm building a media server. NAS. Both, really. I have some spare parts from my first ever PC build dating back to a decade ago and the only things I need are a small/not-tower ATX case (the one I'm gunning for is seemingly always sold out, which is especially frustrating), PSU, GPU, SSD, and of course at least two gigantic HDDs. The plan is to use the still operating GTX 950 GPU and 650W PSU for this other machine after I get their replacements. I have an old 250GB SSD lying around that I can wipe and install Linux or something. All that remains after that is the case. The leftover motherboard is ATX (and AM3+/DDR3) and I need the case to be small and out of the way, so a tower like the one for my main PC is out of the question. As it's clear that I'm miserly and finicky with money, I'm not dropping over half a grand for a microATX motherboard and matching case and CPU and RAM (again, I'm limited to AM3+ and DDR3). tl;dr I'm getting the new GPU no matter what but it hinges on another project wholly unrelated to AI (unless some autists have a separate machine just for that not unlike what enthusiast streamers do).
>>24207 Anon... My media server for the longest time was an HP DC7700 I got from my old middle school's recycling bin like 10+ years ago and I only just replaced it with my Thinkpad X230. I don't get why you need to overcomplicate things this badly for a simple media server when a headless Thinkpad or used/new but inexpensive NUC could do it just fine. But seriously, having two dedicated GPUs in the same system will do jack and shit, I think you can do it on Linux with some janky setup if they aren't from the same vendor but why would you do that? >at least two gigantic HDDs I bought two 8TB 72000 RPM Ironwolf drives and they weren't cheap at all. My advice is to reevaluate what you're doing because it sounds like you're falling into the same sunken cost fallacy hole I did back when I wanted to build an full-size arcade cabinet out of my spare 1070 ITX. In the end I got everything but the PSU before realizing how stupid I was and just sold everything. Just don't, sell the spare parts, get a headless laptop and if you want it to be even cheaper get a cheap DAS instead of a NAS like I did.
>>24207 >>24208 (me) "I just need the case, PSU, GPU, SSD and drives" means you need half of a system plus probably a shorter cooler or back to the shitty intel/amd stock cooler if you're going for a super-small build, it just doesn't make any sense. Just sell the spare parts, they should net you enough to buy a modern low/mid-tier NUC and you can use the rest of the money for the drives. If it's gonna be a media server you can probably cheapen out on the SSD as well, doesn't need to be big since you want the vast majority of your files on the HDDs, get something like NAS/surveillance drives and instead of a more expensive NAS enclosure get a DAS like the cheap QNAP TR-002 I got
>>24208 >>24209 >having two dedicated GPUs in the same system I was certain I was clear on this. That's not what I'm aiming for. Of course each machine will just have on GPU. The one in my main PC right now has the 950. THAT is what I aim to move to the media server/NAS once I get the new GPU to put in my main PC. Don't think laptops were designed for 24/7 use anyway, despite the battery acting as a psuedo UPS. NUCs are tiny, where do I put the storage, much less expand? Apologies for being stubborn but if the spares I have still work, I'm saving my money and repurposing them. Besides, don't know the first thing about selling them. eBay? Too wary on timely payment, much less shipping anything at all. Many of my dealings are through physical storefronts. More assurance that way.
>>24210 >Don't think laptops were designed for 24/7 use anyway Literally doesn't matter >NUCs are tiny, where do I put the storage In a DAS which is gonna be smaller than any ITX build you could make, already said it twice. >Apologies for being stubborn but if the spares I have still work, I'm saving my money and repurposing them. But that's the thing, you're NOT saving money, you're investing a significant amount just to repurpose the old parts, it's literally a sunken cost cope.
>>24211 >In a DAS which is gonna be smaller than any ITX build you could make, already said it twice. Didn't even know what a DAS is (because Installgentoo* didn't speak of it). Basically a Synology or the aforementioned QNAP? *basically using https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Home_server and sometimes /g/ as guidance
>>24212 A DAS is basically a NAS without network capabilities, you're supposed to attach it to another machine or to a NAS to expand it. They're cheaper than a NAS and make more sense for media servers. A NAS is something you can use standalone, maybe it's even better in your case but it's not exactly a computer you can use for normal tasks.
>>24212 >installing gentoo >installing gentoo for a home server ishygddt also that wiki reads like a tranny's power fantasy/larp
>>24214 that's a guide from /g/ what did you expect also I don't think they actually suggest installing gentoo on a home server, it's just a meme
why aren't bird girls real
>>24216 this plane of existence is one of pain and suffering, that's why we can't have nice things.
>>24217 ok but what about croc girls then
>>24222 UOOOOOHHHH I thought about doing Gura after Shoebill but then I just switched to Arknights and forgor
>>24224 UOOOOOOH OUR (FLESH)LIGHT
>>24222 >>24224 side note, I wonder if I can get those style mixes to work on V3 even half as well
>>24226 I don't see why they wouldn't, the main reason I'm throwing so many artists in there is because they're a lot weaker as opposed to NAI where it's more finicky because prompt order matters more. Although they're supposedly pruned or just not trained for as long but still seem to work ok if you just add a bunch.
>>24227 I can't wrap my head around V3 style mixing, most of the time I just throw shit at a wall to see what sticks because some artists overpower the entire mix even when I place them right at the end of a 70+ tokens prompt and de-emphasizing them does jack and shit (well de-emphasizing in general seems to do jack and shit on V3, prompt ordering works 10 times better)
I wanted to make Vermeil but NAI decided that she should have TWO prosthetic arms. All the time.
man that one anon has negative iq
>>24233 does pony actually know suzuran or are you using a lora
Has anyone managed to get nobeta on pony? or is there a lora for it?
Anything new on the local side of things?
>ywn Why do I do this to myself?
>>15183 does anyone have a working link for this one? I reinstalled everything and lost it, it's been one of my favorites.
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pony + controlnet is wild bros
>>24235 It knows Suzuran pretty well you just have to prompt for most of her features >>24236 Nope doesn't work and don't think there's a lora. Doesn't work on animagine either
>>24230 Cool style, catbox for the second one?
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>>24245 Sure but I have no idea what I'm doing with this model tbh. https://files.catbox.moe/9pacel.png
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>>24237 Pony xl >>24239 Dont know if its exactly that lora but found one here https://mega.nz/folder/2FlygZLC#ZsBLBv4Py3zLWHOejvF2EA/folder/rYtVGQbS
>>24118 really nice
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I can't stop genning loli wow characters on pony
>>24255 based
>>24255 Loli NE pls?
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>>24257 I find it immensely amusing that the guy who made pony apparently went out of his way to pointlessly degrade the model by filtering out loli tagged content, even though obviously this is pointless because... well... as you can see...
>>24258 Nice. >went out of his way to pointlessly degrade the model by filtering out loli tagged content probably didn't try too hard and only claimed this because he's afraid of redditor outrage or something, dunno
>>24238 >>24246 why is this birdy so hot
>>24266 Have you tried "anal tail"?
>>24267 I don't think there's a model where anal tail works how it's supposed to
>>24268 How's this? I was able to get it to work every time before I added the LWA tag, for some reason adding that made it inconsistent but I kinda had to add it, akko doesn't look right without it
>>24253 It doesn't seem to be the same but so far the results are pretty good, it's not 100% what I'm looking for but it does the job. Thank you!
>>24269 Hmm maybe I didn't try it with NAI as I don't remember it working that well
Did I do something wrong? I inpainted a couple times on every iteration and the image turned into mush, was I not supposed to do that? Still came out alright-ish
>>24275 gotta enable this
>>24276 >Still came out alright-ish it was off fuck me i might as well start over
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Asking here as well, can you get even remotely consistent anal beads on V3 WITHOUT inpainting? I have no fucking idea why it's struggling with it os much. Sometimes I get anal tails (negged), most of the time i git pearl thongs (negged), sometimes I get no beads at all and when I do get them they're TINY and to add insult to injury the asshole isn't even drawn. Oh and sometimes I get a single bead or just a buttplug. Surely I'm just fucking retarded and I'm doing something wrong, right? I just want huge beads getting pushed out of a sweaty soon-to-be gaping hole goddammit. These are the only good results I got so far even though the one on the left still looks like the beads were just pasted on, I want to see the hole grip them like in the second pic.
>>24279 (with good results I mean an actual string of beads and not just 1-3)
I hope someone makes some sort of age slider lora for ponyfucker XL like how the SD models got one because man its so tiring tardwrangling pony into doing so
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Gentlemen. {{fine fabric emphasis}}
>>24278 >>24282 pretty solid
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>>24285 That one crucial splash of color really makes it
>>24286 can you get this effect on demand?
>>24287 "Spot color" should be the tag for it, but it's not always consistent.
>>24288 Was somewhat gacha at first but if I specify the eye color I can get it almost every time, thanks.
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>>24285 I am now using AI to make porn for crossover game of thrones/youjo senki fanfiction and nobody can stop me.
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Marriage is so beautiful and pure! https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/115635918
>>24294 based
In case rentry anon hangs out here and doesn't mind listing western art styles: Pokachu LoRA for Pony XL https://files.catbox.moe/odzynn.safetensors
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>>24299 Quick kawaii uguu inpaint to fit the board rules. See >>/delicious/41646 for proper previews.
>>23690 Anyone have a replacement for the gitgud repository for loras? I really want some loli artist's loras.
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Not sure if you still check here ez-script anon I keep getting this nonsense fucking error trying to do batches. I can run the same dataset and I swear depending on order on the list it will work or won't for starting a lora training. Only error I seem to get is this >511 in loads >778 in load line >866 in load value >ValueError: Reserve Escape sequence used
>>24303 https://gitgud.io/GautierElla/makesomefuckingporn I'm more interested in seeing if people have started making cunny artist loras for pony XL Seeing a lot of artist styles and concept loras start to pop up on civitai so it gives me hope
Everything I prompt always ends up super degenerate Don't let me cook bros
Really liking this autismmix thing Very easy to prompt good stuff vs having to wrangle pony
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8bit training and gradient checkpointing do wonders I can train with a higher batch size than I did on SD1.5, albeit 4x slower
>>24311 Those are some nice onaholes, anon. Are you going to share your lora?
>>24312 Sure https://mega.nz/file/bV4RBTxT#yFgQXq2pK_SMltzrnbvs34c0Q09Er3OYdRXaxqfZwCI Both the lora and ponyxl are far from stable so be ready for gacha
I wonder how the anon who made the tianliang duohe fangdongye lora for ponyxl did it, that one works so well against all odds
>>24313 Kuro...
>>24316 is very erotic
>>24314 I remember this Lora Are you going to remake your stuff for XL?
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Playing around with autismmix and I don't think this is it, it does prompt fine without the boilerplate I see everyone using but the lack of styles is a dealbreaker after using so much easyfluff, I really don't want to re-train like 30 style LoRAs to be able to use it the way I want. It's surprisingly bad at furry stuff too despite being based on pony, and still has that weird wiggly trademark XL quality which I imagine is probably due to poor training in the base models and lack of styles to guide the linework.
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>>24319 An additional note: what the FUCK is this dataset? I can prompt Nahida just fine, which yeah sure makes sense. Try to prompt Seija Kijin (5600 images on danbooru), get a generic black-haired anime girl. Try to prompt Shoebill (2000 images on danbooru), get mostly-accurate Shoebill. As I was typing this I was informed that there's an XL model which has Touhou pruned out of spite for the Touhou AI discord, which might be pony because I can't even prompt Ran (20k images on danbooru, 5 times the amount of Nahida)????
>>24320 You have my attention, hello.
>>24320 >mostly-accurate Shoebill. eeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... slight exaggeration.
>>24320 >Try to prompt Seija Kijin (5600 images on danbooru), get a generic black-haired anime girl. Try to prompt Shoebill (2000 images on danbooru), get mostly-accurate Shoebill. This is a pony thing yeah It doesn't matter if a char has 20k pics or 2k, it matters if they didnt prune out that char or not. Also, apparently the maker of pony turned the pruned stuff into hashes and has a huge master list with all of them so you can prompt characters/styles that should have been removed with the correct hash to call them Personally, I like Autismmix a lot more for casual lazy prompting but base pony is better if you want to put time and effort into wrangling pony for better stuff.
>>24307 that's part of the fun >>24323 >Also, apparently the maker of pony turned the pruned stuff into hashes and has a huge master list with all of them so you can prompt characters/styles that should have been removed with the correct hash to call them what is the benefit of that? just muh sekret klubbing?
>>24324 >what is the benefit of that? just muh sekret klubbing? who knows? some anon in /h/ said the data is there, you just have to know how to call it. And you'd have to be haxxorman or the owner of pony to have that knowledge
>>24323 >also, apparently the maker of pony turned the pruned stuff into hashes and has a huge master list with all of them so you can prompt characters/styles that should have been removed with the correct hash to call them There's faggottry, there's furfaggottry, there's ponyfaggottry, there's monumental faggottry and then there's THAT kind of faggottry. I have no idea what to call that but I can't fucking imagine using that model, let alone shilling it.
>>24325 Want to bet it's the tag turned into b64?
>>24326 You don't shill shit, things are there to be used. I'll use pony and autismmix but if something better comes out then I'll drop that and use it. I never swore loyalty to any of these people so whatever benefits me is what i'll use.
>>24329 Is this NAI or Local?
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>>24318 Not until someone figured out how to train the double text encoder of SDXL, in any case most character / concept loras on SD1.5 is pointless now because of how expressive SDXL models are
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>>24332 For example not a single SD1.5 model understands stomach bulge while pony handles it with ease
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Someone managed to save this Lora that somehow was deleted from Civitai? Also how good of a checkpoint is Pony Diffusion, is there a previous version but without the loli stuff purged? So far I'm pretty satisfied with both Meinahentai and Hassaku
>>24331 >no one got the joke
>>24335 pony doesn't actually have loli purged it seems to have been intentionally misleading, at least autismmix does loli and shota just fine
Can someone recommend me an anime model that works well with bestiality related Loras?
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>>24323 >apparently the maker of pony turned the pruned stuff into hashes and has a huge master list with all of them so you can prompt characters/styles that should have been removed with the correct hash to call them care to elaborate on how you learned this? if true and the creator didn't salt the hashes we can run the tags through the same algo and discover what the hashes are
>>24341 Forgot to add, read the entire post chain thing.
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>>24333 easyfluff an SD 1.5 model and be able to make a stomach bulge easily
Why the fuck are cosplays so hard to do on NAI?
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Anyone can identify wich model or settings does Asterass uses for his generations? I don't think it's the Loras themselves
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>>24343 Furry models are truly something else, I remember been troubled by wrinkled skin my lora generated for months, now all I have to do is put "wrinkled skin" in negative
>>24305 Sorry, I spent the weekend staring at a code editor, so I didn't notice earlier, that looks like toml loading bullshit. I swear the actual toml loading and saving is so fucking broken, and it's literally not because of something I do. Like the actual toml module is just broken. So I'll have to look through all of the toml code and see what I can do. As for a stopgap solution, it seems like toml has a set of characters it hates, namely, , ' " and \ I have no idea why the slash is a problem but it seems to be sometimes. Sorry I can't provide more help, but this is related to the package itself, so I'll need to just fuck with it. Note: the reason why I was staring at a code editor is because I am planning something big for the UI. It probably won't affect much for most people, but I'm working in converting the UI to a server/client system for use on Google colab and other situations like that.
For some reason I really struggle with getting anything decent with the ponyfaggot model but that autismmix seems to work at least.
>>24351 Now that we have autismmix, people are allowed to say out loud that pony looked really sloppy most of the time, especially without loras. Autismo is good though.
>>24352 Not a single image that I genned with pony really impressed me, but that could just be a skill issue on my side.
>>24354 Those Azusa pics are fucking great.
>>24354 I guess I got filtered...
>>24354 I think autism gets rid of some of the artifacting that pony has and makes the images cleaner the pics are very hot but they are visibly jpeg'd/noisy
>>24357 That's a good point the artifacting is a little annoying, I'll give it a try and make a few comparisons
>>24348 artist?
As I thought it's ok but homogenizes the style >>24359 That's feral lemma
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I've gotten training time down from 4 hours to 1 hour on fp8, gradient checkpointing, 1024px so I guess I'll try training a few loras. Starting with s16xue
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s16xue pony lora https://files.catbox.moe/vzx1wd.7z damn it's 40MB for a 8 dim unet-only lora, this shit was 6MB on 1.5
I think I'd have fun prompting in Autismmix. It clearly has benefits over Fluff + HLL. But I've been so spoiled by the amount of artists HLL knows. I really don't want to go back to the style lora meta for some reason
>ComfyUI dev seething in /g/ over WebUI-Forge being faster than comfy Local is healing
>>24363 I've been dipping my toes in sdxl because of pony/autism but pony is an absolute fucking trainwreck of a model and I really hope it doesn't stick around because I don't want to retrain 20 style loras and figure out how to train characters without them instantly frying. EasyFluff was truly peak, I could train anime styles on it and mix them with the built in styles and HLL provided insane extensibility. None of the public SDXL models have had the brain power put into them that Lodestones put into Fluffyrock.
>>24361 How's the result? My impression is lora trained with fp8_base breaks down the moment you put it through highres fix > 0.45
>>24366 One step forwards and two steps back. I'll keep twiddling my thumbs until a good XL replacement for HLL comes out. Does anyone know how one could contribute to making something like that happen?
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random sdxl tests with lora training on pony and genning on autism
>>24362 looks like a mix between s16xue and dokomon rather than just s16xue alone
>>24368 what's hll precious?
>>24371 also is local almost at parity with nai3? haven't been keeping up with this stuff gotta be honest
>>24372 depending on your preferences, one could say pony is better, especially considering its local and extendable. I still like nai a lot though
>>24372 >>24373 Both pony and nai3 are trainwrecks though I would say pony is the bigger trainwreck because while they're both overfit, pony has the needless metatagging and hashed artists/character tokens. Regardless, pony can still do anything that NAI3 can especially since its local so you can train on it. I really just hope we get a more efficient open source architecture that takes off because SDXL is so fuckin cursed compared to 1.5.
>>24376 at least you finally accept that 1.5 is a dinosaur
>>24371 Are you asking what HLL is or why I like using it? It's a way to take the fur out of the furry model and is imo the best SD1.5 has to offer for anime. It knows a ton of artists too. https://huggingface.co/CluelessC/hll-test/tree/main >>24372 Pony is pretty good at understanding concepts and can do way more complex stuff than 1.5. I'd say it shows that a properly trained SDXL model would make local > NAI3
>>24377 oh absolutely, we could do so much better with other architectures but every successor model we've seen has had major incompetence or retarded caveats. one of these nibbas with money to spend on compute needs to go to lodestone and ask "what would you do if you were gonna train an sdxl anime model" because they have no clue what they're doing
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>>24367 For a first try it's decent, but s16xue is a really easy artist to train. SDXL generally seems to need at least double the steps I'm used to training for. I've been trying to get something decent from other artists to little success so far. Prodigy doesn't want to work correctly either likely because of fp8 or unet-only.
>>24380 hi yes prodigy will work on xl but you have to disable min_snr_gamma, however I found that it wouldn't adapt fast enough by default to fully learn the dataset so i just switched back to adamw8bit since there's no point using an adaptive optimizer if you have to autistically adjust the settings and sacrifice other improvements
the v3-induced coping has reached a new high, jesus christ why are fosstards like this
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>>24381 Agreed, it always seems to come back to adamw8bit. I think I've finally got something decent, going to try some other datasets
>>24372 absolutely not lol
>>24384 "absolutely not" is a bit of an overstatement, pony is jank as fuck but it's a totally servicable XL model if you can work around it. sure it's not as convenient as NAI but it's far more flexible since the checkpoint is actually available to train on. >>24382 what's wrong with having more options?
>>24380 >>24383 What lora is this
>>24386 It's an attempt at a musouzuki lora https://files.catbox.moe/hnkako.7z I feel like it could be improved but it's taking forever to iterate on training settings
>>24387 Nice, I've been wanting one of this guy for like forever. If you improve it then please do post it
we need a new leak, local is dead compared to nai3, pony is shit and animagine lacks training
>>24389 >>24382 stop your pathetic false flag schizo
The state of local makes me wonder if there's any interest in pooling some buckaroos for sharing a NAI sub, current exchange rate murders my wallet too much to consider doing it solo. Got to try NAI out some time ago and its flexibility of styles/characters/concepts/outfits is pretty nice. Biggest thing for me was not having to deal with frying induced by stacking loras when trying to any combo of style/outfit/character/pose. I'm just a little burnt out from baking conceptual/character loras and having them fry the image when I stack more than 3 at once.
>>24391 Not really, local is finally at the starting point where it can start to trade blows with NAI. Loras are starting to come out, people are working on model mixes (Autismmix), A111-Forge means waiting times are a lot nicer and things are looking fine. Either share results and trade notes with others on how to make better loras or give it like 6~8 months for SDXL to start catching up to where 1.5 was.
>>24387 I have a feeling this is going to be one of my most used loras for a while
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https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/rgZXjBDK zankuro LoCON for pony, images generated on autismmix. Already working on porting more styles and characters. I also just bought a 3090 for more vram, so I guess I'm committed to the bit.
>>24394 Cute >>24395 Based, thanks.
>>24395 Awesome, thank you anon
>>24294 did your pixiv get purged?
>>24390 meds
>>24392 >pony and its merges shit the bed at random, all it takes is 1 token to either break the entire prompt or break the style >dataset is limited and there's an obvious 'snapping' issue that V1-based models didn't have >lora baking takes longer than 1.5 >made by a schizo who hates touhou, forcing you to use loras for fucking TOUHOUS >boomerpropting >poisoned by comics, pony and furry material calling it sub-sub-optimal would be a compliment
>>24402 please take your meds onegai
>>24403 get fucked
ah I saw the pony mix, huh I guess that's a based 70 thing because I'm not sure if easy anon's Lyco merging script from the popup days will work with XL models. I hope they're still around, would love if you can update that me on the progress with the GUI and the other options the popup version had.
anyone mind sharing the autismmix, I rather merge it into HLL anon's models over the ponymix it seems like it would blend more
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>>24407 https://civitai.com/models/288584/autismmix-sdxl autismmix is already a pony mix with unknown loras merged in, then there's autism confetti which is the same thing but merged with a different xl checkpoint
>>24406 XL model would be great if you can swing it 1.5 looks so outdated now that XL exists SDXL in general just needs more mixes and more loras so it can catch up to 1.5 and become the default since 1.5 only wins in variety right now.
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Alright, I saw that an anon from hdg trained a 40hara lora some time ago, so I'm on the SDXL train now. Bless that anon, Choo choo.
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Slow progress but progress nonetheless
>>23743 local is great with ponyv6, you just need to use loras and be a bit of an autist with your prompting
>>24408 is autismmix better than pony if I'm never going to gen furry stuff anyways?
>>24408 thanks anon
>>24402 I don't care about any of this but I just think pony is a huge downgrade from NAI visually. inb4 the"just use loras bro skill issue" line, I don't think I've seen a single pony output that is actually nice to look at, it looks like aislop with fucked up linework, color banding and jpeg noise all over the place. Of course NAI wasn't perfect but it could at least look clean with certain artist tags and if you're willing to fiddle with cfg. Pony's great to jerk off to though, its smut capabilities are very good I wish nai was as good with concepts. It's really apparent how limited danbooru is and expanded dataset would be the best improvement for next nai models.
>>24414 yeah because autismmix is specifically intended to be more for anime than furry
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oddly, it feels like most of my style loras on XL are coming out underbaked but it feels like the line between underbaking and overbaking is even more fine than it was on SD 1.5. getting a better GPU today so i'll finally be able to test faster, though. anyways, have a macci.
>>24405 a9 feels like shit compared to a8, the gens are blurrier and more washed out.
>>24420 really depends in some ways it's SOTA, and for some styles I'm still on 5b
>>24420 >>24421 makes sense, I rather work with the pony autism mix for new Based models but for now I'll save it until I understand how merging for XL models work
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>>24402 you can get pony to stick with a style relatively easily with some autism and it's significantly more versatile because it took from a broader array of sources, comparing it to 7th or nai is like a night and day difference to me; although maybe that's because I'm mostly using it for rather particular and niche stuff I couldn't get elsewhere (pics related and thus spoiled since this isn't the d thread). Either way you just need to be willing to prompt for your style after the initial prompt with language about the lighting, level of detail, etc. I've barely touched loras with this yet, although I'll probably start working on that since all of the artists I like either never had loras made or the ones that exist lean underbaked.
>>24425 man why is /d/ always /d/icks nothing against it because everyone has their kinks but I thought /d/ would have more varied fetishes outside of just dicks
>>24426 hard agree. futa needs its own dedicated board
>>24426 tentacles are /d/ too despite being a stable of hentai there should be a futa thread but the concept of entire fetish-focused boards is absolutely fucking retarded and does nothing but divide people that and vanillafags should grow a pair of balls
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What settings do you use to train a Lora for clothing? Should I tag each part of the whole attire? Sorry I'm new at this and using the Lora Trainer guide
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Is there any way to make the SDXLlora for Animagine-XL work on the Confetti Comrade Mix? I want 2girls to perform extreme sexual acts.
>>24430 >idolmaster that's just kaai yuki
>>24431 >I want 2girls to perform extreme sexual acts. based
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Anyone using IP-Adapter for style/detail transfer? I tested various adapters for SDXL from here: https://huggingface.co/h94/IP-Adapter/tree/main/sdxl_models Face one seems, obviously, for faces. "Plus" one looks amazing but it seems aggressively censored against NSFW. Instead of "seeing" pussies or nipples it hallucinates something completely made-up.
Anyone knows wich lora/s are beign used in these pics? I really like the faces and how innocent they look
>>24430 Hi, can I have catbox of this one please? Looks really cute
>>24436 looks like XL and since pony is pretty recent for people to be pumping out content like that it's probably NAIv3
>>24436 >>24439 Use this https://novelai.net/inspect or stealthpng info extension for a1111. https://github.com/ashen-sensored/sd_webui_stealth_pnginfo A lot of NAI pixiv uploaders don't bother pruning their png info, just like this one. It's a mess of a prompt though.
>>24441 Hands are still better than my attempts. Tell me your secrets.
>>24442 Hand quality on NAI almost fully depends on your artist tags tbh, no big secret there. All artist tags are in png info, just copy the prompt+settings and fiddle with that. If there's shit like extra or missing digits, just use inpaint, should usually correct itself with 1-3 attempts. If you really like certain artist combo, but it tends to produce shit hands, I usually tried to inpaint the hand with just fkey as an artist prompt.
>>24440 are you using any loras for this style
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https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/vo5TkQKQ opossummachine for pony, i've tried to retain this like 3 times and i can't get it to adhere closer to the style so i'm deeming it good enough(tm). it should kinda recognize macci but you have to prompt her traits as well.
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>>24445 >>24446 >Another style lora SDXL grows stronger every day thanks anon
>>24448 oh theres metadata so I assumed it was local rip
>>24443 Based, I have these images saved. >>24445 >>24446 Thanks and I will now also gen some bathing cuties.
>>24443 >png info No idea what that is but I dragged the second of your pics to NAI and found the prompts that way. Even then, it took three generations to get breast sucking and it still isn't up to par. Interesting that artist tags play a role in finger (un)fuckery. I mainly don't bother aside from the last two pics related. Not that it always works but NAI does rely solely on Danbooru.
This seems to be a concept that pony has a hard time with but NAI can pull it off fine after some prompt wrangling
>>24450 Nice >>24451 >it took three generations to get breast sucking and it still isn't up to par 3 gens isn't even that bad, probably took me even more rerolls + inpaint for that one (don't remember now). For some stuff you pretty gotta expect that you have to do a bit of seed hunting >but NAI does rely solely on Danbooru. Yeah it does which makes it feel pretty limited at times
It occurred to me that I said "last two pics related" only to forget one somehow. May as well share more. >>24453 Yeah it does which makes it feel pretty limited at times And a bit stupid. Just a bit. Lana here shouldn't be wearing a thing underneath as per negating the swimsuit tags but NAI insists on giving her God knows what. It took emphasizing hip bones and throwing in bubukka for good measure but even then it fails to be consistent without the latter. Maybe.
>>24453 >Yeah it does which makes it feel pretty limited at times I think it might be faster to improve Danbooru by uploading/retagging than trying to convince the NAI team to use other sources For some reason most shit gets uploaded to sancuck these days
>>24455 fewer restrictions -> more uploaders
>>24455 I thought the cutoff for NAI's internal training was Summer 2023. Doubt fresh tags on new and old pics would help.
>>24457 for v3, sure. they're training their own image model from scratch next.
>>24410 Nice to know that you liked that, I'm lurking here too sometimes. That was the first attempt on pony xl and mistakenly I took the dataset version from fluff, but anyway the result becomes much more superior, than anything before on 1.5. I even think that it was a smart mistake by now, lol
>>24458 ETA November 2024? I understand V3 was released on that month last year. And no, I don't know why NAI thinks pics related are Mayl. I know prompt merging is a thing but I definitely wasn't going for that yet.
>>24460 eta who fucking knows but they've been doing a lot of very long training runs the past four months https://wandb.ai/novelai
>>24461 That reminds me, I finally got a shiny new GPU. What does training entail and how long does it take?
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Posting images on /h one by one is such a drag
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>>24463 Bonus of my favorite maid >>24459 Happy accident I suppose. The results speak for themselves. Thanks again anon!
>>24459 Hold on, I'm not very smart with this stuff. >I took the dataset version from fluff Does this mean that the tags the XL lora was trained on also includes e621? Also, if you don't mind. What's the difference between the standard lora and the rank32 version?
>>24465 It means that the e621 tags was the only included, but it still works fine with booru tags, without destroying TE completely, like how it can be with prodigy on some datasets with booru tagging >Also, if you don't mind. What's the difference between the standard lora and the rank32 version? Just size of the loras, since there is completely no quality drop on this rank, just like it was on 1.5, should save some vram too
>>24466 Cool, I prompt using mostly e621 tags on Pony anyways. Thanks for the explanations
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hair over eyes == pure sexo
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ojousama footjob session
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i'm going to fucking put a hole in the wall, pony has such a hard time learning character details. these outfits were learned faster and more accurately on 1.5 models at 768x!
>>24471 pony loras look really rough so far man
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>>24472 styles are fine imo even if they come out a little underbaked sometimes, but the sweet spot for learning characters is so frustratingly small compared to 1.5. my first test was fine but this one is just shitting the bed and I can't figure out why. some of the results are fine but it'll be like 1/8 coming out right.
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anyways have another pony style while i continue to bash my head in trying to get this shinobu lora to turn out the way I want https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/Ppx23BqT
Jesus, Webui Forge really is some impressive stuff but I still think most of the stuff I gen with pony and autismmix is fucking shit.
>>24475 >illyasviel this guy is just the savior of local, isn't he
>>24474 thank you
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>>24471 I dunno I just finished my first attempt at a character lora and it seems much better than sd1.5
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>>24478 i finally got it up to snuff but it required some alpha scaling fuckery and careful tag curation. even now i'm not 100% happy because the white dress is hit or miss with the pink back flap, but everything else is good enough that I can't be fucked. care to share your lora and/or config? https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/3ohCGSYK
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Not having to inpaint the headdress for it to be accurate is really nice
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>>24479 It's basically the same settings I've been using for 1.5 loras apart from double the steps (3200 instead of 1600) and using fp8. 8 dim, 8 alpha. 1e-3 unet lr, 1e-4 te lr. adamw8bit, linear scheduler. Cache latents disabled, random crop, shuffle captions. Then the optional stuff which is gradient checkpointing, min snr gamma, and network dropout. I'm still trying to get prodigy to work and I want to try different text encoder learning rates just to see if it changes anything. https://litter.catbox.moe/xwrjw8.safetensors
>>24475 >but I still think most of the stuff I gen with pony and autismmix is fucking shit. Same. Feels like style lora mixing really doesn't work that well, but might be a skill issue.
>>24482 shinobuautismanon here, I lot of the style loras I see people pumped out for pony in the first few days of adoption feel really low quality. I think it will get better. SDXL is weird, and bakers are going to have to experiment to get results instead of SD 1.5 "wow it vaguely looks like the artist close enough".
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>>24483 To add, a lot of the style loras I downloaded from catboxes were absolute dogshit trained for not nearly enough steps on like 50 images. I don't think Pony will be a long term solution, but with better trained LoRAs it's absolutely fine.
>>24476 Yes >>24480 Very nice. >>24482 >might be a skill issue maybe, I'm gonna have to experiment some more but with Forge and faster gen times that's gonna be easier.
>>24485 >Forge and faster gen times that's gonna be easier. forge has been a blessing. the gen times are very nice and the cumrag drama is surprisingly entertaining
Does anyone knows the name of that one japanese Loli artist who had a dude with a black helmet with spikes and red glowing eyes? I can't find him. I wanna train a Style LoRA of him
>>24485 >>24486 I need to get into that forge stuff. Is it basically a1111 but with faster gen times?
>>24489 Nvm, I found the github page and am just reading that instead
>>24489 Pretty much but some of the extensions need to be ported for it. I've heard that the nai3 extension doesn't work for it for example but haven't checked it yet. Some extensions work fine.
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It seems I've been beaten to the punch on a fiz-rot lora for pony oh well https://files.catbox.moe/dlopre.7z
>>24493 is this local?
>>24428 dividing the gay bros away so they don't drown out the rest of /d/ is the idea....
>>24502 No, you can check it here. If there's a word "artist" in prompt, it's almost certainly NAI, I don't think there's any local model where it works.
>>24504 >No, you can check it here. https://novelai.net/inspect
>>24487 being based, that's what it's doing
>>24503 >dividing the gay bros fujoshits get a yaoi board and that's it, everything else bar truly niche shit like scat and guro (the latter should put you on a list) should stay on the general /h/ board including futa and yuri
>>24507 >including futa no. while I don't mind futa by itself, they'd consume the whole board
>>24508 this is why you get a thread per fetish, not a board per fetish
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two sides to the same maids
>>24504 >I don't think there's any local model where it works. Wasn't ponyxl using it?
>>24511 pony uses "by" iirc
I'm trying to generate pictures with python on colab because I do not have a GPU good enough for SDXL but images tend to come out samey a lot of the time Is there any way I could implement some sort of simple "wildcards" system as a python script?
>>24513 that's not really telling us anything anon what colab notebook and model are you using?
>>24515 doesn't this colab shit itself with more than 75 tokens on sdxl?
>>24516 use BREAK
>>24517 I'm not even sure this syntax works there. But I'll try it some more I guess.
>>24518 A lot of things work its just wrestling diffusers and python most of the time which has a decent learning curve I just want to figure out how to add some simple wildcards but idk someone who knows enough AI and python to help so I thought this place would be my best bet
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FEET
>>24520 very nice
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>>24520 Yeah this is based.
>>24522 UOHHHH FEET ぺろぺろぺろぺろぺろ
Can I get a reminder about the scope of the Ufotable finetune? Asking for a friend
>>24524 with that I mean how many screencaps (and from how many/which sources) the guy said he ended up using the last time he showed up
>>24525 >>24524 I think it was something like 300k but I'm not entirely sure about that
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I tried to merge "confetti Comrade Mix" with Lora for "Animagine-XL", but it didn't work. I just want 2 loli girls to fuck each other with Animagine-XL style pictures.
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it's so fucking annoying to get sdxl to learn styles thoroughly but I may just be acoustic. old on the left > two epochs of new on the right. new was run with higher LR over more steps and yet it feels off. or at least, some parts of it do, while other parts feel better.
>>24528 never mind I have Figured It Out expect improvements 8 hours when i get home
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SDXL seems better at learning things that don't have a large portion in a dataset. I used to have to increase repeats on specific characters just to get anything recognizable
>>24532 PORFOREVER SDXL LORA? LET'S FUCKING GOOOOO
I feel physically sick when visiting the 4cuck thread lately
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>>24534 its utter chaos, just constant back and forth falseflagging tribalism retardation. i just go there to post loli to try to derail the thread and see if anyone is talking about lora training then dip. i'm pretty sure it's only going to get worse as the gap closes between local and proprietary as well.
>>24534 Shits bad but I no longer care. >>24535 >i just go there to post loli to try to derail the thread based
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>>24535 Single schizo repeating the same phrases over and over gets real old.
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Pony score tags are fucking with me
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I'M A PEDO YESSSSS HAHAHAHAHAAH I LOVE THIS I REALLY DO Cunny gives me UNLIMITED POWER GOD BLESS THE CUNNY
>>24541 i typically just use score_9, score_8_up on autismmix_pony, adds a bit of stability without affecting the image too much.
>>24535 It's going to get so much worse, there's gonna be a chasm between local and V4.
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Post your waifu(s) as harem girls or in another fun costume for valentine's day
>>24544 i hear v4 is a from-scratch model on a non-SD architecture so maybe it will be a wakeup call to the hobbyist trainers with money to switch to something that doesn't take a million years and dollars to train. both pixart and cascade seem like interesting alternatives to SD but nobody wants to make the jump because all the tools would need to be rebuilt. i also think we are reaching the diminishing returns point of pure text prompting imagegen, so unless v4 is trained in a way to understand subject composition (which even dall-e 3 can barely do) then the amazement factor is going to be substantially lower than naiv1 -> naiv3
>>24546 >cascade seems like the better option vs pixart, i know some sperg on here was absolutely obsessed with good text as a must-have for a new architecture
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this-! the taste of a guilty man!
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https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/rgZXjBDK updated zankuro and opossummachine i have struck upon settings that give extremely accurate results
>>24528 I can see that double belly buttons on pic1 of your examples, have you tested how often does that happens? I've had to go through whole dataset to clean this shit not to appear after, and still it breaks sometimes, seems like really huge problem for pony, and datasets should be as clean as possible on this part or I dont know, what res pics was in your dataset? >>24549 So how adding conv does affects the speed? Should be really better with them, cant say that 8+1 that I have tried earlier gives best results, but 16+8 seems very reasonable
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>>24549 Looks like a nice improvement, I'll have to take a look at the training settings. I may as well also upload what I've updated so far https://mega.nz/folder/2FlygZLC#ZsBLBv4Py3zLWHOejvF2EA/folder/WFtxTDKJ So far it's fiz-rot, porverever, and musouzuki
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>>24551 ran some of my test pinups through the porforever lora, for the most part it is excellent as expected, though digitan seems to have some bleed, likely associated with blue eyes?
>>24552 Could be, I was mostly testing to make sure I could prompt the character details properly and it's tricky to get a good balance. I uploaded another version in the Extras folder with less digitan repeats
>>24553 god bless I'm mostly after the style for mixing once I get more of my own loras trained
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Huh well s16xue works
>>24534 what'd i miss
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are sports good for you
>>24555 looks scuffed as fuck to be honest
does this place get newfags anymore? the link used to be in the gayshit repo but now it's gone, how would one discover this hdg
>>24559 https://gitgud.io/GautierElla/makesomefuckingporn the repo is still up idk why no one bothered to check for a new link and just assumed it was dead
>>24560 there's a wayback link for the gayshit as well but fewer people visit it. the one you posted is very old btw, looks like an frok from april
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>>24561 There's a fork from Sep 2023 on gitgud https://gitgud.io/schwabischesbauernbrot/makesomefuckingporn It's invisible to most people because picrel as banner image, you have to log in to gitgud
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>>24549 Thanks, much better than the old one
>>24549 How did you generate the captions? It looks unconventional
>>24564 They are wd14swinv2 captions merged with e621 captions from thessalo's tagger (I have a wrapper for it in the mega in the fluffyrock folders) then imported into hydrus to dedupe and manually remove e621 species tags. This should increase the effectiveness of LoRAs on a wider range of prompting since pony is trained on mixed captions, with no apparent downsides due to the larger token space of SDXL. Also, I have been workshopping with some collaborators and it seems that even though these trials came out looking very well they're actually OVERBAKED now. With the settings I provided, 1000-1200 steps should work best for most datasets rather than the 1600-2000 that my outputs are. I will probably retrain with lower step counts and 0.1-0.3 network dropout to get my final "good" settings for SDXL training.
>>24562 Maybe the message from nijiEN would have been better if she looked like this
pony is so bad at watersports compared to fluffyrock, probably the only concept that's lacking to the point of bothering me besides the glaring one of it not knowing the :3 tag
sumata is inconsistent but when it comes out right holy fuck
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>>24558 The style or the lora?
>>24572 seriously what's up with pony that causes pictures to have those weird broken chunks
>>24574 huh?
Well I'm dumb and had comfyui configured wrong when testing my loras. Thankfully this means they're actually better than I thought they were
>>24573 the lora, it looks pretty overfit
the world is over it's been nice posting with all of you
>>24567 >not knowing the :3 tag Looks like its working as a weight, which should be a bug
>>24565 e621 male, duo, clothing, mammal, human, underwear, female, not furry, panties, oral, young, humanoid, blonde hair, hair, clothed, male/female, butt, sex, interspecies, blush, size difference, simple background, white background, pink clothing, pink underwear, larger male, smaller female, pink panties, feet, bodily fluids wd14 1girl, underwear, panties, 1boy, blonde hair, short hair, print panties, hetero, blush, loli, katyusha (girls und panzer), ass, barefoot, strawberry print, strawberry panties, food print, flat chest, feet, soles, clothes lift, ass grab, white background, sitting wtf e621 taggers are just so much better
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>>24580 is that thessalo vs swinv2? I think they both have their strengths, good e621 taggers are nice because e621 has the relational tags (stuff like larger/smaller male/female), but I still have to go and delete most of the species tags because they're useless for prompting anime. Ideally i'd just set up aliases and blacklists in hydrus to automate the cleanup for me but I'm so lazy that it wraps around into doing it manually.
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>>24581 very nice, more prompts to yoink
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jack-o' pose and other miscellaneous memery
>>24583 yeah, that's hot.
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trying to get suspended missionary but god blessed me with the fabled handstand missionary instead
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>>24586 You should add password to the dataset, mega is not cunny friendly
https://github.com/showlab/X-Adapter https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1asw2kj/xadapter_has_been_released/ X-Adapter has just been released. It makes 1.5 Loras work with SDXL, no A1111 extension yet. can anyone try it out?
>>24591 pretty sure it's not implemented anywhere yet.
>>24589 ended up just deleting it since it was posted for one anon on /h/ and i assume they got it already
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>>24591 lmao
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using unaesthetic as a quality tag works pretty well pretty often
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>>24559 I lurk but feel too inadequate to share anything. Too basic compared to all the artist/style mixings and other stuff. Most I do is see how many layers I can get NAI to remove and maybe fake screencaps.
>>24599 just post man nobody cares that much >hey this one is kind of nice should i post it yes
>>24600 Either I'm not a prompt wizard or NAI can't get properly sized swords right. Also doesn't know what an angel leotard is, likely due to the low tags.
>>24598 Is this NAIv3 -> local inpaint?
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>>24603 it's a bit complicated, NAIv3 is still overall the best anime model for SDXL but pony does have some nice benefits. it's trained on a more diverse dataset than just danbooru so you can prompt more fringe content. danbooru mixed with e621 kinda gives you the best of both worlds for prompting OC since you can access concepts which are only heavily tagged on one or the other. obviously the biggest advantage of local over NAI is that if you want to prompt something you can just train a lora instead of being SoL.
>>24602 NAI's actually pretty good with weapons, although I haven't tried short sword tag in particular. Maybe move it closer to beginning of the prompt
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sexo
>>24604 no inpainting, just using the sd upscale script to upscale with nai without paying anals
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>>24612 trained with config in this mega >>24549, WD14 + e621 tags, fp8_base, the result is much better than I expected The only problem is the sweet spot of training steps seems to be very narrow, I did 50 epochs and anything beside the 30th epoch is either an underbake or an overbake
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>>24613 very nice work anon >The only problem is the sweet spot of training steps seems to be very narrow every time i bring this up on /h/ someone goes "nuh uh" and posts the most under/overbaked shit I have ever seen, it's very funny. sdxl is a far more temperamental model than 1.5, probably because the unet is so goddamn big. quick and dirty/prodigy bakes are generally okayish but getting any semblance of accuracy is a pain in the ass
any news about x-adapter?
>>24615 checked g and so far I only see some half-assed cumrag diffusers implementation
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>>24615 i wouldn't bother with xadapter, some people have posted gens of it working on /h/ but they are very jank considering you are adapting a NN extension generally trained on a much lower resolution to a NN with 4 times as many parameters which is going to result in massive fucking jank. just retrain your LoRAs for XL, its worth the effort.
>>24617 >some people have posted gens of it working on /h/ ctrl+f'd "adapter" and couldn't find any gens there were also claims of controlnet working with x-adapter which could be interesting too
>>24618 it was the anon posting their sybian saddle concept lora, scroll through the thread til you see em. same anon was also going on a schizo ramble about how sd 1.5 was so much better than xl because they were upset that the extreme jank of xadapter didnt make their lora work very well.
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Things start to get weird when you don't include a character or source_anime and have sketch in negs. Strange how this happens with some loras and not others
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Uoh no!
>>24619 that anon is an actual fucking retard so I wouldn't even consider him I still don't have any hopes for x-adapter though
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New Rentry for my pony loras with preview images https://rentry.org/cawt333g I think the characters I picked are a decent variety, these are a few I was also considering
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>>24623 based and pilled, I should make a new /hdg/ lora compilation rentry or some shit because the one that they're using on /h/ right now with the loose catboxed loras is fucking awful
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been a while since I had any time at all to gen, I trained this gachigachi lora last night, definitely not cooked enough though, will probably bake it again later.
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some random gens while I was mucking about with 4th tail
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Vampire hunting is not just a job, it's a way of life.
So now that pixiv is fucked, where do we post cunny? Just here?
>>24632 what happened now just the ongoing gaijin purge?
>>24633 Not gaijin really, mostly ai posting accounts (but not exclusively), japs are hit as well from what I saw. It's automated system, the reasons are not explained and it's permanent so I don't really see any reason to bother now
>>24510 which Prompt or Lora do you use for that head back pose that doesnt mess up the head completely >>24611 catbox for first pic please?
>>24635 >catbox for first pic please? nta but it has stealthpng embedded
>>24625 cute
nai added style transfer seems to function as expected but i don't have any non-artist tagged pictures to test with lol
>>24638 >>24639 seems like reference controlnet tbh I expected full-package controlnet by now, so that's a bit disappointing
>>24641 yeah i was thinking sdxl controlnet models were all non-commercial but that doesn't seem to be true. hopefully it's because they're focusing on getting their own image model out and not the turk chasing himself down fruitless rabbit holes again.
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I think I managed to get a style that I actually like, more mixing and testing will be done though.
>>24643 no one's every truly gone... good to know i'm not the only one who slippery sloped into watersports because i wanted to see if AI could do it
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was messing around with this model for a small bit, got a fair bit of nice stuff, but it seems to be fairly inconsistent style wise, but I got some really nice stuff so I call it good enough https://civitai.com/models/315596/pony-diffusion-for-anime
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>>24646 I also, just because I had a bit of time, tried to train gachigachi on it to see what would happen, it's definitely undercooked overall, but looks fairly close. first 2 are prompts from the training data, last 2 are prompts I ran just to test with, and yes, of course, where there is gachigachi there is pissing.
accidentally pointed infinite image browsing at my downloads folder and found out it will try to index subfolders including videos and databases go on without me, i'll catch up in a few years
>>24645 I have slippery sloped into worse things but my lust for choco cunny can never be sated...
>>24635 >head back pose that doesnt mess up the head In these images the relevant tags I used are: front view head back jackhammer position / reverse jackhammer position >>24643 Cute style, hot watersports
>>24641 I am pretty sure this is IPAdapter https://huggingface.co/h94/IP-Adapter This is NOT a controlnet, this is a bit different thing. Publicly available one is not able to transfer most NSFW details or poses.
A quick experiment to see if it's worth using NAI to clean up small datasets
Cropping or letterboxing is also better than upscaling to avoid blurring, but it will always slightly change the original
>>24654 are you using overlay original image? it shouldn't alter unmasked areas.
how much inpainting are you guys having to do on local compared to 8 months ago? that's about how long it's been since i got fed up with spending 80% of the time inpainting and quit
>>24657 you can get great results without inpainting unless you want hands to look absolutely perfect the leap from old models to pony/nai is incredible.
>>24657 I've actually been doing more inpainting now because it's so easy. Before I would never inpaint and just accept what I got before you would have to reroll so many times to get something decent
>All this without a lora I love autismmix I would have never been able to do this on SD1.5
>>24659 >inpainting is easy nice joke. if i gotta spend most of my time cutting out masks and shit, no thanks.
>>24659 nai's infill is indeed very easy but with pony you still gotta do a bit of work to get a good inpaint result. the model's obviously much smarter than 1.5shit though
>>24657 Easier than SD1.5, on SD1.5 for each 1024 x 1024 image I have to do two rounds of gacha, first inpaint at low res then cross my fingers and hope highres fix doesn't fuck it up
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I love you cunnyfrens!!!
Has anyone noticed a decrease in quality on NAI? I noticed I've been getting awful hands and I'm not quite sure when that started happening.
>>24669 >went back over some old gens How old? Before 75 token fix?
>>24670 that's a good point, mid-december and early january. but they're both short prompts, would they be affected by the fix even if they weren't affected by the problem?
>>24668 YES LAD THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN
dammit wish I had more spare money to get a new laptop, pony stuff is starting to look amazing lately. inb4 get a proper pc
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>>24679 you can always rent an instance at vast.ai or runpod
>>24681 I was considering paperspace but those might work too
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>>24680 Based, it's a crime that I haven't genned her yet.
>>24667 >>24669 It's been happening all too often for me as well. Unsubscribed for the time being. Local is slowly looking appealing if only due to its seeming ability to gen characters that ought to be tagged more on Danbooru but aren't. Half-dressing some characters gave mixed results too.
>>24685 do you really see the decrease in quality when reusing identical seed and a recent prompt? I was planning to resub because I'm too much of a gpulet for local currently, but it's hard to believe they would just straight up decrease quality like that
so, i haven't used local in a while now but I recently got SD forge and I want to take advantage of that speed improvement. Can anyone give me the basic rundown on what everyone is using these days? I've only heard vague things about pony/autism and I wouldn't know where the vast majority of loras for it are.
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>>24687 pony is an sdxl finetune trained on equal amounts of furry and anime art so it has shallower understanding of characters but much broader understanding of concepts, autism is pony merged with some anime style loras to alleviate some of the base style biases, you can find it here: https://civitai.com/models/288584/autismmix-sdxl (I actually recommend the confetti merge which has a little bit of another sdxl anime finetune mixed in) /h/ has a lora compilation here: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff naturally the loose catbox loras in there are very hit or miss quality, the stuff people have posted in this thread is generally pretty good. also, here's a style lora for nanatsuta, I also have some training info in my mega for pony that may be helpful: https://mega.nz/folder/OoYWzR6L#psN69wnC2ljJ9OQS2FDHoQ/folder/D4oxDJyT
>>24688 thanks anon, i've heard that SDXL models are more intensive on GPUs, I have a 2060 so I'm wondering if i'll be fine
>>24689 You can probably get away with slow gen times on --medvram but it's gonna be a struggle. SDXL is what finally pushed me over the edge for upgrading from an 8GB card to a used 3090.
>>24686 A bit hard to tell as I haven't used it as often as I thought I would, mainly because gen addiction is real. Last week's session points to most likely. Not that it always happens but I was told this shit was meant to go away. At least for NAI.
>>24690 >You can probably get away with slow gen times on --medvram but it's gonna be a struggle You don't need to use vram flags for forge, it just works without them. >>24691 >A bit hard to tell as I haven't used it as often as I thought I would, mainly because gen addiction is real. Last week's session points to most likely. Not that it always happens but I was told this shit was meant to go away. At least for NAI. I think it would make sense to compare same seed+prompt gens (after the token fix) and see if there's any quality reduction. anything else is most likely bad luck. Tried on one gen from late January and the pics look identical. The hash change is from the metadata (generation speed)
>>24623 The link for "Furryrock" in that rentry is missing a letter, so it's not working.
>>24693 Thanks, I caught that earlier but forgot to press save
>>24694 any plans to retrain the tsukushi lora on pony? I'm curious to see how much better it is with the increased fidelity.
Another warning for posting a One Piece character >>24695 I'll give it a go, shouldn't take too long to re-tag and re-train
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>>24695 Haven't really tested it but it seems to have turned out pretty well https://rentry.org/cawt333g#tsukushi-akihito
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>>24699 okay yeah that's already way better than the sd 1.5 versions you made. narehate countershading bleeds through sometimes but that's nothing that can't be patched up with the right negatives. spoiler for shotacon. guess i should probably re-train nanachi for pony, might work exceptionally well with the mixed tag space...
bros she's doing the handsign the korean feminists have infiltrated my local install its over
>>24700 That would be great if you do end up retraining Nanachi. I haven't had the best results so far with character loras on pony but I was thinking I'll probably try Faputa since I've got manual tagging for danbooru and e621. I'll just have to find a better way to combine them
>>24696 Do you still do a quality pass for the tags or did ai tagging get good enough for it not to matter?
>>24703 It's been good enough for styles because even if they're not completely accurate it doesn't really matter. Auto tags are better than none and it's better than pulling them from a booru in a most cases. Accurate tags do matter for character details or concepts and auto taggers aren't super consistent. They're a good starting point and again better than no tags but you will see a noticeable improvement with manually removing incorrect tags, making sure the same tags are consistent and present across your dataset, and adding more tags if you think they are important. The whole pruning inherent character details is also dumb but that's a separate issue.
>>24704 Do you also try to limit the number of tags? I remember back then you had to set up a token limit, and I don't really know what happens if your tags exceed that. Do they just get cut off? Will that degrade the quality? >The whole pruning inherent character details is also dumb but that's a separate issue. Huh really? I did that and was pretty satisfied with not having to tag obvious stuff like cat ears or eye/hair color. But then I only ever trained one lora. Also I autistically tagged every outfit detail and that didn't turn out very good as there would be conflicts with other outfits that shared the same tags and I would have to tag absolutely everything to get the outfit look somewhat close to what it's supposed to look like. Making up custom tags for the outfits also didn't do anything. Speaking of custom tags, do you still train with a custom trigger word for characters? With my lora it turned out to be pretty useless, and I think the gens looked better if I didn't use it. Maybe because every image in the dataset had 1girl, so that turned out to be my trigger word.
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>>23690 haven't trained since around the middle of last year and noticed SDXL wasn't a meme anymore. been using kohya sd with a powershell script but it's probably outdated by now. is adam8bit still the way to go?
>>24707 yeah adamw8bit is still good for sdxl. some people use prodigy but i feel it tends to undertrain. train on base pony and make sure your scripts are fully updated. a few anons have shared training settings in this thread that are quite good, poke around the MEGA links and see what looks best to you.
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>>24707 >>24708 trying to train a lora on pony using an updated powershell script. keep getting this runtime error, which doesn't occur when training on fluffyrock or other sdxl models. any ideas?
>>24711 nvm was retarded and forgot fluffyrock wasn't sdxl based
no XL loras of Alphonse(White Datura) or As109?
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>>24713 There's an as109 lora for pony on civitai, in my experience it requires adetailer face to function
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>>24713 I've been working on a Alphonse Lora but I haven't gotten to look how I like yet. It either doesn't look like his work when I go for lower steps or it fucks up the hands when I go higher.
>>24715 >or it fucks up the hands when I go higher Happens even on based68 if you use the built in tag without mixing it with another artist lol.
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>Banned from Pixiv over near official looking Pokemon pictures. I flew too close to the sun. Didn't realize it wasn't obvious that... well, it's not official considering the content. No warning, nothing. Just instantly fucked over.
>NAI sub is finally done Probably for the best. I became addicted to that shit.
>>24722 how does it work? most i can manage is fumbling around with extremely low weights so it doesnt screw up the actual image.
>>24724 it pulls color palette and art details strongly and poses less so but it can be easily overridden by artist styles. i'm currently thinking of it as a third leg - style/subject/vibe transfer, and you can use any two to bridge over the third. might be good for pulling specific periods of an artist's drawing rather than fucking around with year: or costumes that don't have a tag, or characters that pull an official art style too hard. oh shit i might finally be able to recreate that creepy photo-edited silent hill 3 heather porn style
>>24725 >might be good for pulling specific periods of an artist's drawing rather than fucking around with year That's exactly what I've been using it for. Also if there's a style that doesn't quite work or look right with emphasis, just use vibe transfer and set the reference strength to around 0.2-0.3
>>24725 er style/subject/theme, and you can use vibe transfer to paper over one that isn't really working anyway i just started playing with it again and it feels like there's potential here, think it's gonna involve a lot of twiddling quality tags >>24726 good to know
>>24729 Where do I start?
bread time
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>>24730 I guess you can give pony a try first like I did, but I wasn't really able to gen anything I like with it. Well I also had to play around with autismmix for some time to get results that I actually like.
>>24732 Original cup poster. I tried using pretty much every pony mix, but I just can't get results I like. Maybe I need to fiddle around more.
>>24733 The style tag combinations here https://github.com/Siberpone/pd-styles/blob/main/styles-pd-v6.csv + style LoRAs is what made me happy with my autismmix gens.
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New bread >>24735 >>24735


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