>>912 mine, I still have more to post but I've been getting good feedback but I guess that's thanks to the autism I put behind my Kisaki LORAs pixiv.net/en/users/90601160

>>912 Haven't posted on it in a while because i'm lazy and censoring and tagging images takes up time I could prooompt and/or yell at google colab. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/87414620

>>918 nice stuff, I wish I knew how to do inpainting and photoshop editing to make my images look better, I spent too much time doing LORAs training to pick up on tips /hdg/ was posting

>>920 I don't think I've ever used inpainting on any of the images I posed to Pixiv, way too lazy for that.

>>925 yeah then I guess becoming a photoshop pro for editing would be better, hey at least according to current bs copyright laws us doing that would copyright protect our generated works at the moment.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/89220770 Some other anons I am sharing with zero permission: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/88379031 maidanon https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/5889068 monstermash anon https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/2282145 uh, elfanon? https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/6645242 https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/88073885 https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/2056198

>>937 a post like this would scare the shit out of me if it was made by some anti AI art nutjob but hey, thanks for the callout anon

Just post sfw daily of my wife, get the dopamine from the likes and fuck off. Wonder if i should make a nsfw pixiv just to see how it does since this one is mostly for fun. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/88386135

>>947 Oh goddamn, didn't realize how much you made of her (or that it was one person). Nice.

>>950 Im dedicated to the bit, also for every sfw image i gen there are like 100 nsfw as well not a saint by any means lol

>>951 kek, not like you aren't in good company. Pretty sure there were a lot of Nene correction last week.

Based64 is the model mix I made with defmix red, huh impressive with something with no sex LORAs or embeddings, it looks like there's a cock inside at least

>>955 whoops wrong thread

>>1038 To make a fanbox attractive just do your general service for 500 yen and then just make sure your description is both in EN and JP, use DeepL it's better than google and the Nips will at least get an idea for what service you are providing. For model sharing I recommend you move the service to patron or fiverr for gaijins, for the Nips make a message on your pixiv profile saying "message me if you want to know more about the AI models I use for my images" in Japanese using DeepL

>>1041 also do a twitter but no nsfw cunny there if you are a western user, the ethic faggots will hound you. Do gacha thots with big tits if you want attention there.

>>1041 I speak nip so I'm set there already. So like, same as what's outside the fanbox, just more? Thanks for the tips, I'll think about it.

>>1045 yeah, just make sure your services are nicer for the Nips cause they're the only reason we have this technology. You're free to do whatever you want with the western customers that want LORAs from you on sites you can provide services.

Guess I'll toss my hat in too. It's all Azur Lane shit, forewarned is forewarned. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/12371234

>>1074 >12371234 nice userid get lol

This is my OC's account, it's all sfw though, at least for now. She has a backstory and everything. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/89910413

I really need to get around to making a pixiv. Might take the advice of >>1041 and set up pixiv fanbox and a patreon as well, (Though loli is my home)

Would making multiple pixivs with monetization be ok if I wanted to separate my work between normal sfw/nsfw and then have a cunny only account?

>>1164 it would, not sure about payment methods but if you use different emails it should be fine. As for getting payed you might need different methods cause I feel like any service would get mad if the same guy is getting payed twice on their service.

>>1165 How does pixiv do payment processing? Do you have to connect a PayPal/Stripe or a bank account?

>>1166 pretty sure the reason why Fanbox even got to shit once idiots called out Loli was because creditcard companies were backing out >Fanbox only allows PayPal as a payment option for SFW artists, NSFW artists can only receive payments via credit card or one of their other (Japan-only I think) methods. PayPal isn't an option if you're marked as R-18

What's the big reason you all do pixiv? Dopamine from views or fanbox?

>>1176 I've never even heard of RECEIVING payments by credit card, seems jank. Guess they're not going to set up international ACH though.

>>1178 Started cause an anon asked to follow, you know the wholesome origins of pixiv. Now I am slightly addicted to the dopamine and thinking about GPU slush fund yes.

>>1178 wanted to do it to show off the potential of my LORAs and mixed models, but the dopamine rush from nips and AI supporters liking my shit cause it's cunny makes me feel great

Probably better to talk about this here so I'll link my post from the other thread >>1186 if anyone wants to give their thoughts. If using a lora/embed not made by you and you post content made with it also behind Fanbox/etc are you a faggot regardless of willingness to freely share the lora/embed while stating you didn't make it but "anon" from 4chan did? I'm not even sure on doing the later either because I'm certain I'll get shat on by some for not gatekeeping. And while I personally can just stop utilizing them if the maker of the lora/embed wants we should all know the reality that most people won't give a shit. Or even steal them and say they made them like that Chinese guy on github who got linked on /h/ today.

>>1196 Go ahead and use the LORAs, doesn't matter to me. Whatever we make with AI isn't copyright protected, and trying to become like the Koikatsu card makers that charge a 100 dollars just because someone leaked their card is worse. Just make sure you make good use of them, don't credit shit don't even call them LORAs on public sites that aren't AI based. We have to gatekeep this knowledge from artcels both from Japan and the West, if you can share the models do it, just make sure you do it to people who actually know how to do shit.

>>1196 Most work is based on NAI at this point too. Is it faggotry to use the leaked NAI model for LORA training? We certainly didn't make that, and most of us didn't make the programs that train the LORAs or even theorize the concept, so everyone mooches at one point in the pipeline.

>>1197 >>1198 Fair enough and I think the Koikatsu card analogy is quite fitting so much so I can see this going that way regardless sadly. I honestly just wanted to get more concise opinions on this because I got annoyed at someone personally singling me out on here and /h/ for doing this.

>>1196 IMO, the whole situation is a "who the fuck cares" deal to me. We're training on art that 95% of artists would absolutely not allow us to and already hate AI. Asking for permission from someone already doing that is weird in that regard. On top of that, it's not even difficult to provide the link to the makesomefuckingporn gitgud page, which is where every single LoRA ends up anyway. If someone is angry that they're making money off a LoRA they made, maybe they should have just it themselves, desu.

>>1196 You're going to and have heard many different opinions. The most upset anons will probably be on later to give you a piece of their minds. Personally, the fact you're even here means this is obviously not that secret a club, and I think the lockdown paranoia is silly. I would rather you credit anons, licensed FOSS style, and not give a shit about "blowback" from "artcels". Indeed it can be hard to credit anons or 4chan if they don't have pixiv. If and when I start monetizing I intend to clarify models and credit 他人 at the least. Hell, maybe that's what I'll be charging for - fully reproducible prompting info and LoRA citations, so others can wean themselves off me. The opposite of ~exclusive~ fanboxes. Think I'd be comfortable with that. I think some anons have suggested similar with selling LoRA training tips so I guess I might undercut them kek

>>1212 Crediting anons, yeah that can work as long as they have a Pixiv, you're going to have to know which anon it is by tracking down the original post that was posting the LORAs through archive digging but hey that's at least easier compared to what artcels want

>>1213 I mean I don't mind if anyone traces back shit to me cause I'm literally behind several proxies. Angry artists won't be getting any royalties from me, besides if I didn't need money for a 4090 I wouldn't even do services

>>1213 I am not familiar with what happened to koikatsu community. But I work in software and know much about what is going on in FOSS. Many people worked their ass off in the early internet building shit like Linux and OpenSSL as a hobby, academic research, or just philosophical dreams (muh Gentoo). Then the tech giants started forming and amassing profits, a lot of it built on Open Source. For years they relied on it without contributing anything back to the open source, although as far as I know they did obey licenses requiring citations. This caused a lot of bitterness among open source. The opinions varied as much as here - some felt the original spirit (SOVL) of the whole thing was being exploited, took their balls, and went home; some just did it for the joy of it and didn't care where it ended up; some saw and still see it as a way to get a foot in the door at one of these companies. Open source started withering, to the point we saw massive vulnerabilities like Heartbleed because OpenSSL was like one dude in his spare time securing half the internet. This last decade the companies were forced to start contributing back. I can't tell you (or the anon in question if that's not you) what to do, because different anons obviously want different things with their stuff. But you do have to recognize this kind of thing can be discouraging and could cause some to clam up. Would probably also make anons feel better if it was clear you do contribute back to the community, as the tech companies were compelled to do. Ignoring the whole issue of NAI... SD license does not require attribution for OUTPUTS, although derivatives are supposed to be distributed with copies of the license. But it also allows derivatives to add additional terms. Maybe anons can start adding attribution requirements. >>1214 I'm more worried about cunny trouble than artcel shit kek

>>1215 An addendum to my increasingly long-winded rant: A lot of the upset yesterday was probably the sea change /hdg/ has been facing the past couple months. It used to be a pretty self contained comfy place, people shared with the expectation (but no safeguards!) that it was contained to a small community of hobbyists. We are all still adjusting to this. I think everyone needs to take a step back and start setting expectations.

>>1215 cunny shit will only get me nuked on twitter and patron, the nip sites are my safe haven and were they actually have good taste in Anime women, flat chests cunny or not was always a patrician choice. Yeah I can be more clear with the models and LORAs I specifically make/mix for people who know what they're doing on Patreon at least for the west (twitter would be a bad idea) The nips who know or are curious about running this stuff can just message me if they want my models cause they're the reason we even reached this point with training and stuff.

>>1216 Yea the yesterday fiasco really took me for a loop. I saw that it’s starting to bleed a little into /g/ this morning. I wouldn’t be that upset if I just knew a little bit more to have my work flow be efficient so I could pump out art, while training LoRAs, while having my fingers on the pulse of places like Pixiv or JP twitter for what stuff to make on top of what I like, and still have time for everything else on a regular consistent basis. I kind of just shut down or go into low effort autopilot when I feel absolutely overwhelmed and try not to ask for help on the general too often when I probably need to ask for help.

>>1218 If only the cryptobros had actually figured out a viable residuals and automated attribution system instead of 9000 metaverses...

>>1219 crypto bros and their counterparts really fucked up the image we have, some of us may be unethical to the eyes of normies and emotional artists but most of us live by FOSS and only do services if we need money to make our advancements with this technology a lot faster/better >>1218 I will always share my stuff and info with anons on 4chan or here, I can at least trust you guys to know what you are doing and how you can improve things, you don't even have to credit me if you know me from pixiv but to me it doesn't matter, cause I only know what I know because of /hdg/ anons. Like the Japanese people who message me about LORAs or mixes I will always give out info and mixes/LORAs to anons for free.

>>1220 but to my point I only share my shit here now cause it takes too much effort to switch to my phone to post stuff on 4chan cause of retarded rangebans and the schizo getting jannies on my ass if they character looks like a teenager

>>1220 I am seeing a lot of pro-Nip sentiment which is cool, but as someone who has some fluency some of the "Japanese" messages I receive raise eyebrows. It almost sounds like my own Japanese - passable but unclear if native. Didn't help one dude messaged me in English, Chinese, and Japanese to match my LoRA attribution clause and all three seemed fluent. Nothing stopping a westerner from messaging us using DeepL, and us replying using DeepL in a comedy of errors.

>>1219 As a ”real” crypto bro that’s been around since before this NFT casino Metaverse bullshit, I’m pretty pissed at the path these fuckers have taken crypto. This is not what it was supposed to be and I hate all these influencers. It’s also why I’m very suspect of people who suddenly jump on the AI/ML train and trying to blow up on YouTube because it gives me PTSD that someone is gonna go bonkers level bullshit and blow it up for the rest of us (again).

>>1223 I feel you anon, I do mean to call out cyrpto "bros". As a techie I think there is some powerful but specific use cases for crypto. It's all over now though.

>>1222 crypto would be great for the cunny anons, I would get into it too if it wasn't so rampant with fakers and influencerbros

>>1224 I knew who you were talking about, I'm just saying my piece for others like me who aren't happy with whats happened. In terms of the tech, I'm only sticking to BTC and XMR and watch everything else be a meme. There is a working atomic swap for BTC and XMR so you can swap them without an exchange and essentially laugh at the tax man. >>1225 As I said in one of the threads, if you can't pay in XMR, you can't get cunny from me. Nips get a pass because they gave us the good shit.

>>1226 do normies know about XMR? I can look into it if a real cryptobro is backing it

>>1227 Full blown normies no, crypto normies maybe. Monero is a privacy coin, doesn't display your transactions on the ledger, both who you sent to, who sent to you, or how much. Exchanges have been forced to ban it off their exchange because angry governments get ass mad that they can't spy on your transactions and essentially strong arm them with muh money laundering. Anyway I don't want to keep talking about crypto, just check it out and maybe we can discuss it later as possible money/payment processing for distributing cunny to people without fearing Patreon/Paypal/etc

>>1231 Gotcha, thanks anon sounds like something I can be invested in if Patreon gets on my ass even if I post sfw cunny.

what did he mean by this Seriously though is there any deeper meaning to some of these?

>>1239 the pixiv emojis are fun, I'm glad nihongo folk are giving some of our works reactions like these.

I am wishing for the day when this tech can understand specific concepts more so experienced artists can stop slapping my face with "yeah your robot doesn't know how to do specific shit and hands so I'm better than it." Really wants me to pick up art again and work together with my trained stuff to beat all those pretentious fags.

>get a LoRA training request >check their pixiv >drawn the same 2 characters for years >made a koikatsu >post fanfics on Pixiv >sell daki cases I... I kneel... On the other hand, not sure if I should really do this for a flat rate if it'll probably be part of their own business.

>>1266 What is your charging rate right now?

>>1281 That's the neat part, I don't have one! Still on the fence about this stuff.

I like the open information sharing that we have. Prompts, models, loras, catboxes being shared freely. I think it's fair to charge people who don't have the ability or inclination to learn to do this stuff themselves. But I hope that the open sharing continues. Profiting off of what was openly shared, without giving back somehow, is one hell of a dick move.

>>1315 Agree. I'll always share shit for free here. Couldn't do any of this without /hdg/. Normalfags are another story

>>1196 Personally I feel conflicted about people putting stuff generated using freely available LoRAs behind a paywall. Post all the the uncredited LoRA images you want or even claim them as your own, but keep them free. Making LoRAs for people to paywall behind a fanbox was definitely not on my list of things I had in mind when making them. But yeah, I ain't yo momma and I can't control who does what with anything. I'll continue uploading LoRAs for the time being, but that the more people do stuff like this, the more others are incentivized to hoard Loras because monetization always makes things piss-ugly. I echo >>1215 's sentiment from FOSS shriveling as a result of people's free contributions being commercialized. Do you want to accelerate the decline of Free Shit(TM)? That's up to you to decide. You are not the first, and you probably won't be the last to monetize free shit. So it's all downhill regardless of what you pick from this point on, it was only a matter of time in the first place. >>1315 >Profiting off of what was openly shared, without giving back somehow Some people define 'giving back' as sharing monetary profits, others don't care and just want more free LoRAs so it'll still be messy as hell.

>>1403 people who know shit or people who actually aided us with our advancements like the Japanese deserve FOSS in my eyes. The normies and average crowd of the west don't in my eyes.

>>1407 to many in my eyes in the statement, but whatever even so I still think the biggest thing we have to call out is people selling other anon's LORAs for ridiculous prices. Those are the true faggots.

>>1403 I don't think companies charging money was ever the problem, it was that when they made advancements in tech, they never open sourced it so that the cycle could continue. With a license like GPL, anyone can charge for someone's work, but they're also required to put the source back out into the open, preventing the "TiVoization" effect. Artists already make art with gimp and krita then sell it, and I dont see a lot of source file sharing in their community like ours. I'd be interested to see someone release their LORA with a copyleft license

>>1409 Since yesterday I've been thinking about how to create some kind of Lego building block-style collection of clauses anons could assemble into custom licenses. It wouldn't have to be too formal or legally watertight since I doubt things like THROUGH WALL NELSON SPITROAST CUM VOMIT is ever going to court (let alone court in another country). Anons who want 0% chance of being exploited should obviously just hoard, although posting outputs on /hdg/ using hoarded LoRA is just attention-whoring

>>1403 Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. Paywalling gens off a LoRA you didn't make feels scummy. Perhaps the ideal is that pixiv shit is posted for free while offering some kind of commission service, rather than paywalled shit. My idea of "giving back" is basically that there's some good faith effort to advance the common proompting scene in whatever way makes sense. But I know that's loosely defined. Random poachers posting on pixiv may not be the biggest issue though. Big companies are going to want to turn this into the equivalent of Photoshop or Google Docs or whatever. Time we spend trying to come up with licenses may ultimately mean nothing. Perhaps its best to enjoy these wild west days for what they are: a brief moment of hacker culture before the real commercialization happens.

>>1407 I'm probably uninformed, so genuine question here. Why would Japan earn special treatment? Stability released SD, NAI made the anime model, Automatic1111 seems English-speaking. Not sure where the Japanese fit in, other than being the birthplace of anime.

>>1424 SD-Scripts being made by a Japanese and the Japanese audience being one of the more open and supporting country for Anime AI art, and a lot of model mixes that we're using today being made by Japanese people. All those reasons are why I personally think the Japanese audience deserve that special treatment compared to the basic braindead western AI artist on twitter

>>1424 >other than being the birthplace of anime. I mean that's a big part of it too. Then there's >>1428 Part of the reason I opened the pixiv was to give back to them, and I frame most of my posts as shared research. If the Germans from CompVis want some porn from me under the table that's cool too though. NAI can eat shit though for taking open source data and trying to enclose it while throwing us danboorufags under the bus.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/90238029 Coming from the Koikatsu community makes me adverse to anyone monetizing AI content at all. The consensus here seems to be that commissions are OK and I can agree with that, though. Networks and models getting paywalled is where I would draw the line, though. Not only would it be incredibly scummy but also feed the AI art legal fires.

>>1507 >Networks and models getting paywalled is where I would draw the line, though. Completely agree. All the resources should be available (except to artcels, they should be gatekept until we have firm legal backing). However if someone is too lazy to set all this stuff up and learn 2 prompt gud then by all means charge them for customs

I'm thinking about starting a pixiv but I have a lot of autistic concerns since I've never really had an online presence before, hopefully someone can clear some things up for me: 1. Is it better to have a consistent style and theme across uploads? I imagine it would appear more "professional", but I like to prompt many different things, ranging from sfw to cunny to milf-y. I'm mostly worried that posting cunny might scare too many people away in case they followed for the other stuff. 2. Would it be a terrible idea to upload gens that are clearly influenced by a popular artist's style? I most likely wouldn't do it either way, I'm just wondering how jap people might react to something like this. 3. Should I be translating all my posts to Japanese with DeepL, or does it do a poor job and look cringy to someone who can speak the language? 4. If I eventually want to open a fanbox, can I post cunny on it? I remember reading a few months ago that loli content was getting restricted there but haven't followed it up 5. What about Patreon? Could I get in trouble for posting anything without gigantic breasts because it might be considered underage? What if I link to a LoRA that's trained on the style of a loli artist (since I've made a couple), could that be violating their terms of service? 6. I've seen people mention doing commissions, but I'm not sure how that would work. Do I just set a subsciption tier specifically for commissions where someone can request an X amount of works per month?

>>1525 1. The Japanese and Chinese on Pixiv love Cunny, you'll get a lot of positive feedback from them if you post cunny gacha character generated work overnight (like I did) However Twitter will not be so kind to you, never post NSFW cunny on twitter, SFW will be glossed over too you have to understand the meta of AI art Twitter is big tits or giving big tits to small tit Genshin girls. 2. Most character style LORAs are already influenced by that, doesn't matter styles are not copyrighted but it would be wiser to not let any form of over fitting make something look exactly the same as an artists style to avoid backlash you won't understand, all my posted works are done with a personal style LORAs made from mixing 9 artstyles and a personal model mix I made so all my works don't look similar to any existing AI or human work. 3. You are a Gajin, using DeepL is the best you could do to communicate with the Nips. Make sure you communicate really important stuff like sharing models in Japanese by using DeepL. 4. Cunny, 2D/Anime is legal on fanbox, however R18 fanboxes are only payed through credit card and not paypal 5.Patreon like twitter avoid cunny NSFW at all costs, it's better you link LORAs with SFW examples but if you plan on doing NSFW with a loli artists just give them a bit more meat on their chest, it's up to the audience you gathered from pixiv to decide if they're based enough to understand what you're actually giving them. 6. Fanbox is for illustration commissions, if you want to be commissioned to make LORAs for people I only did that through Fiverr. I don't have clear answers for most, especially financial gain from this cause I still feel conflicted from the responses regarding Patreon and pay walling models/LORAs through there. Morality shouldn't be something stopping a vocal lolicon like me that has already made countless LORAs but its mostly the legal trouble we can get into if artcels or some mole blows the whistle on us. I just might share works instead under my 1 dollar month tier and post a code to the model used for anyone actually "based" enough to understand it.

>>1428 >1. Is it better to have a consistent style and theme across uploads? I imagine it would appear more "professional", but I like to prompt many different things, ranging from sfw to cunny to milf-y. I'm mostly worried that posting cunny might scare too many people away in case they followed for the other stuff. Depends on your goals, if you just want to share what you like over time you'd probably find an audience with similarly diverse taste or who just look at the ones they like. >3. Should I be translating all my posts to Japanese with DeepL, or does it do a poor job and look cringy to someone who can speak the language? If you want to integrate in the Jap community maybe, but then again they can always DeepL/Google TL themselves. Someone post some examples for me to review?

>>1529 I just might as well only share my model mixes on patreon, LORAs will be secretly shared through the image file names using base64 code. It's up to the people from the West outside of here who know enough to get LORAs from me. Remember anons on this board will always get the LORAs I make for free and the info, or whatever nip messages me on pixiv

Yeah there is no way this absolutely isn't going to end up like the ass side of mmd model and koi card sharing.

>>1541 Yeah and I feel like I'm part of the problem, sorry anon

>>1543 you and others can go ahead and destroy my services with copyright claims once I start becoming like the Koikatsu/MMD creators that sell their stuff at ridiculous prices, I rather not become like them but time changes an anon.

>>1529 Thanks for the response, I know loli stuff isn't allowed on patreon and twitter, I was mostly wondering if I might get in trouble for linking to a loli artist LoRA that I might have used just to influence the style of a non-loli gen, in case I wanna provide all the parameters for my generations as a patreon-only thing or something. Also, what's different about credit card only payments, would I have to open a business bank account or something? I live in Europe if that matters in any way

>>1546 Never been payed through credit card, but here https://fanbox.pixiv.help/hc/en-us/articles/360003698754-What-are-the-supported-payment-methods-

>>1529 >R18 fanboxes are only payed through credit card and not paypal Not true unless I shouldn't be getting paid through paypal, because it lets me despite setting the fanbox as r18

>>1550 alright cool, good to know we have someone who has actually been paid kek

>>1550 Enforcement might not be rigorous. People shouldn't be able to pay you with Paypal at least: https://www.pixiv.help/hc/en-us/articles/900002309706-What-payment-methods-can-I-use- Additionally Paypal's own ToS prohibits it anyway so you are at risk of getting fucked if they catch on. https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/article/what-is-paypal%E2%80%99s-policy-on-transactions-that-involve-sexually-oriented-goods-and-services-help384 I recall eThots and patreons getting fucked before. Credit cards apparently have a blacklist system called MATCH too? Never heard of artists getting blacklisted but before this thread I hadn't even heard of receiving payment directly to credit card so.

>>1552 >Please note that PayPal payments cannot be used for R-18 and R-18G requests at this time. Sounds it like it only applies to requests, which might be different than fanbox. In any case, would I most likely be fine if I only post loli stuff on pixiv but not on fanbox?

>>1554 my favorite loli artists are still safe making money on fanbox, you should be fine. The whole case about credit cards backing out was because of real CP, it was already said that posting anime loli on fanbox and profiting off of it is fine

>>1554 >>1556 Hm yeah I may be mixing it up, a lot was changing late last year and the boundaries aren't clear. To circle back to the original question though, taking your payment via PayPal is risky. Your loli artists probably take payment through Japanese ACH or konbini or whatever.

>>1558 guess I might take on that XMR suggestion

>>1558 Can I lose the funds in my PayPal account if it happens to get suspended for violating their terms?

>>1563 Yeah they freeze accounts all the time, not to mention very buyer-biased. You can google some stories from our distant cousins in NSFW art or even sex work (or ask ChatGPT???). Is it realistic that they'll catch on to bucketed payments from Pixiv? I dunno.

>>1565 Might be better to withdraw directly to a bank account then I guess.

>>1567 Would have to be Japanese, I think.

>>1558 >taking your payment via PayPal is risky How the fuck will they ever find out its porn related?

>>1569 people can report you

>>1570 Explain what they would report you for, no one knows what payment method you are choosing to "hey this guy is using paypal on r18, reported" And obviously no one pays you through fanbox actually even has access to your paypal that is purely done by pixiv to them in bulk and your username is not written anywhere on the statement.

>>1572 So we're perfectly fine? Then what are these stories about freezing accounts

>>1573 I'm assuming because paypal doesn't like it if they find out, but unless pixiv themselves rat out what you are doing directly to paypal there is no way for them to know. And pixiv themselves allow paypal payout on r18 fanboxes so...

>>1574 This worry many of us loli posters have with work we want to commission just because we're not in Japan or a country that isn't retarded annoys me about the fact how crypto got taken over by retards and influencers. Good to know about the info you just provided though, thank you anon.

>>1569 >>1572 That's where artcels could actually do damage, if they find and show paypal a connection between your Fanbox and the paypal account. Or perhaps report to pixiv. >your username is not written anywhere on the statement. This is important information though, thanks. Paypal would have to go out of their way to investigate - possible but unlikely at our scale.

>>1572 Oh, any idea how requests appear? It seems like they are deposited in a monthly batch payment, so Paypal can't immediately associate them with a particular R18 request at least: https://www.pixiv.help/hc/en-us/articles/900002294123-When-will-I-receive-my-profits-

>>1246 >Really wants me to pick up art again and work together with my trained stuff to beat all those pretentious fags. don't worry, artists doing exactly that are going to beat those fuckers anyway

>>1598 I know, there's a lot of smaller artists and those that aren't mentally ill or egotistical really support AI art. I can't wait to see what they can do, but I want to be apart of it eventually too.

>>1420 >>1515 >>1536 Newfag here, hello and thanks for all the insightful info! I've been thinking about growing a pixiv and opening for requests with the idea of sharing more NSFW outputs or extra outputs and doing "pick the next character" polls in patreon or something of the sorts. Would something like this be alright, since I'm not really trying to paywall specific LORAs? As some Anons mentioned before, one of the main reasons is cause I do want to get a 3090 or something more powerful to start contributing with LORAs myself and whatever else I can learn and give back to the community in any way I can. Everything I end up making will be posted in here for free since as long as there's 1 person that likes it, I'd be happy.

>>1698 IMO, nothing objectionable about paywalling straight generations from well-publicized models like NAI (kek) or AOM2, or models (LoRA, mixes) you made yourself, or models the maker is cool with being used commercially. You can decide on the order you do your own work however you'd like too. I don't think you have to release your own work to us in turn, but giving back at least a little's the right thing to do if you learned here or use anything, and anyway we all train on trad artists' data in the first place. I'm thinking if I take requests to make specific LoRA I might set similar sales guidelines that they have to be publicly released. Or maybe charge extra to not "leak", use that to do some "pro bono" work...? Still figuring it out myself.

>>1702 Yeah, my plan is to somehow make enough funds to get a decent GPU upgrade and afterwards start going down the LORA training rabbithole, making LORAs I'm interested in and also stuff the community wants. I'd be posting them all here once I'm satisfied with them since I want to keep the free to use idea alive and give back to all the glorious bastards that have contributed to any of this! Basically just want to make sure it's okay-ish and to eventually make the community happy.

I just uploaded on pixiv for the first time, should I be tagging posts with non-established characters as "Original"? It doesn't seem appropriate, but a lot of AI gens seem to be using it and it might help with visibility. Pixiv defines this tag as: "Original is a tag used to define works that are done, and created originally without taking any derivative elements from any existing works. For character creations that does not belong to anything else, the tag Original Character is used instead."

>>1721 Also what about this? Seems vague, and fuck if I know if a character looks underage Is it necessary to use it? Sounds like a shadowban filter

>>1704 What are you on, anyway? You don't necessarily have to wait for a 3090, LoRA is relatively low computation and there is colab and stuff. And financial advice, don't get yourself in trouble getting the funds for something like "content creation" or whatever it's called these days and depend on it to pay off. >>1721 >>1722 That might technically be true but everyone including myself uses Original so oh well. If it's a shadowban there are a lot of people in the shadows so meh. Just play it safe with that one.

>>1725 I'm on a regular 1080. The upgrade will help with my 3D modeling and texturing work as well, so it's okay, the upgrade isn't specifically only for AI.

>Blushing Well that's a basic-ass theme of the day.

>>1507 I also come from Koikatsu and this is the general consensus from the English-speaking community. Making a patreon so people can vote on polls for what to make is okay, and to an extent early access to things aswell. (see what Evann does), Commissioning character cards is also ok. but paywalling something that already exists is frowned upon. ALSO coming from the Koikatsu community- paywalled lora's will ALWAYS be leaked, just like Koikatsu cards. Paywalling loras and preventing them from being leaked will be much harder as compared to Koikatsu cards. Some Koikatsu paywallers who are extremely autistic make "personalized cards". This means that you have to sign up to their Patreon then request a card that already exists (and sometimes pay another fee). The paywaller will then do something like change a single letter in the metadata of the card and make a note as to which card corresponds to which Patron this way. The idea is that once a card is leaked, the paywaller can download the leaked card and look at the metadata, then kick the leaker off of their Patreon. Of course, not even that method works because people are very persistent in fucking over paywallers.

I probably won't be checking back on this thread often but I may as well post for anyone who's interested. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/8828307/artworks Iand my Mega if you want any of the LoRAs I use in my uploads. https://mega.nz/folder/2FlygZLC#ZsBLBv4Py3zLWHOejvF2EA

I'm a little late to the 8chan party, haven't checked this place since it was first made. These are where I post images: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/12267744 https://twitter.com/ElfDisseminator This is where I've uploaded my loras: https://mega.nz/folder/5vAAhCgA#nC9wdlcmN2Z08D2V4M9oQw

I had my sexual Uma works privated due to Cygames copyright, I looked it up and yeah seems like they do that even though it also seems arbitrary as there are plenty of old Uma works on Pixiv showing bobs and vagene. But then today I get a message stating it was a mistake (along with some other posts that were always fine?) and its fine, just "unprivate them yourself." Am I being baited to get banned or something lmao Because its evidentially clear Cygames have a problem with this and I have doubts pixiv is telling them to get bent.

>>2760 If pixiv themselves through the same channel that they informed you of them getting privated are now giving you the greenlight to republic them then you are probably ok.

>>1196 If I share a lora I made it's because I don't mind I guess. Little annoying to see someone profit off it but it's an opportunity I didn't take so I can only be blamed. I make more then I share as well so I got a few I won't ever share if I wanna be a pixiv fag like the KK dudes. I've been on the otherside of the KK thing with paywall cards so it's hypocritical of me to have that latter attitude but we're human.

God damn some of these artist style loras make superb results but I feel like I can't share them on pixiv because I'd need to ask the artist I think. Some artists have a very recognizable style. Can you guess the artists for each lora here?

What if I increase the lora weights?

3rd and 4th artist bonus round

>>3725 >I'd need to ask the artist I think If you want to do it out of some form of good will sure, but its not illegal to copy a style, at worst some Japanese dude might comment something passive aggressive.

>>3725 art styles are not copyrighted, you might get an angry comment or so but as long as if it doesn't look exactly like 1:1 or 80% like one of the artists posted works you are fine.

>>3789 >>3893 Welp, we'll see https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/105241530

>>4374 Do what you want as the other anon said there is no copyright for artstyles but I think you are sure maximizing the chances of someone getting butt blasted with that title and description.

>>4379 Then they can get fucked. There are hundreds of people posting shit that is clearly using artist LoRAs without even mentioning it, they can get mad at them. They can be bootybothered all they want but styles aren't copywriteable and if they didn't want people to enjoy their artstyle and want to emulate it then what the fuck are they doing posting it on the internet? They should have burned the art and buried the ashes in the backyard as soon as they finished drawing it, if that's the case. When did people forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?

5ch has threads specifically for Pixiv "AI artists" where users are sharing advice or just venting, thought it might be of interest to some of you, it was for me at least. There's at least one post I saw where someone mentions they feel guilty using LoRA models made by others in paid content and someone suggested paying back the LoRA creators, lol. https://find.5ch.net/search?q=AI%E7%B5%B5%E5%B8%AB%E3%81%AE%E9%9B%91%E8%AB%87

>>4571 >Nips discover the beauty of open-source software kek

Seeing more anons opening their request boxes and maybe I should just do the same thing and make some extra buck from people too fucking lazy to learn this shit. It still feels a bit wrong but the future is AI I guess.

>>4815 I sold out and opened a fanbox+requests since people were using my Loras in fanbox shit anyway. If anyone is gonna make monay off me right-click>saving images like a monkey it's gonna be me. At least I make some effort to inpaint the eyes and fix hands before posting, I see people shit out 40 fried images per post with blob eyes using my Loras and they don't even have a VAE enabled. Once I get enough money from this fanbox shit I'm going to buy a 3090/4090 and fuck around with 832px, or at least be able to do something else if I'm training at 512px. 8GB VRAM means my PC is unusable when training Loras, can't even gather the next dataset.

>>4571 Cool threads to read, thanks for sharing this. Some anon in there was making ~30k yen per month just from fanbox alone. Very impressive.

>>4834 Well I'm leaning towards it now, good luck with your fanbox and getting that 3090/4090.

I got that pixiv premium free trial to see analytics I'm surprised on people coming from facebook, Assuming this means someone is reposting my stuff but linking to the pixiv page.

>>4834 As one of the shitters who posts like 80 images and doesn't inpaint shit, well, in my defense I have a backlog of like 1000 images I want to post. If I committed even 2 minutes for each (super lowball btw), that's 2000 minutes or 33.3 fucking hours of tedious inpainting, and that's IF everything takes 2 minutes which it won't. But at least I use a VAE, and I do go through and only take images I think are at least aesthetic/interesting enough to be worth sharing. The other thing is that people seem to not care. I thoroughly inpainted 75% of the images in https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/105240646 to fix Ladica's dumb hands and tail to a passable standard. Hell, that one kissing pic took over an hour by itself. Anyways, substantially lower engagement than posts where I just put up 80 decent raw gens. >>4865 I want to do the free trial but I don't want to give any financials to pixiv - or at least I don't want my bank seeing any financials to pixiv. Is there a good way to pay anonymouslyish?

What are yall's process for censoring? I open things in irfanview, box over whatever is to be censored, Ctrl E (having set it to blur), enter, Ctrl S (having set it to not ask about overwrite). Takes about 10 seconds per image. Is there a faster way?

>>4815 I'm kind of hoping I don't get any requests for the generation Terms, it's either going to be too braindead or the customer too anal...

>upload page now has dark mode based >>4953 Drag every PNG into photoshop so they all open in a different tab, new layer, paint over the nono areas, select layer, delete layer, mosaic, save, ctrl + w, next image. I do it all using hotkeys so it takes a few seconds for each plus this way I don't have "box" censors.

>>1266 Looks like this jap trained it themselves after I gave them a couple tips, I'm proud. Or paid someone else...

>>4980 If you give a man a LoRA, he has a waifu for a day. If you teach a man to LoRA, he has waifus for the rest of his life.

>>5002 you give a man a lora he has one more 144 mb file he will likely never use and just barely enough time left to prompt some waifus before downloading the next unused lora if you teach a man to lora, he has 36 petabytes of epochs he will never test and no time left to enjoy prompting

>>5006 why do you have to be so brutally real

>>5006 fuck you for brutally describing me, I have so many saved epochs that I have that I never end up using beyond the testing phase

What does this emoji mean? It gives bad vibes to me.

>>5122 "fuck you and your ai art desu"

>>5123 Kek, probably. I snooped around a bit and noticed he never bookmarks R18 content but does ai work. I'm caring too much about this though it feels another user is a bot, dude posts either a "cute" emoji or the elephant shooting blood always less than a minute when I post. If he's not a bot thats pretty crazy but based.

Pixiv user DM'd me about making a request, deleted their entire account, then sent an anonymous request. I'm spooked.

>>5124 i've got one of those too, i figure it's a bookmark bot that leaves a comment to be polite

>>5139 I messaged some pixiv user I liked yesterday and was waiting for a reply. Today I'm checking my messages and notifications and the message I sent isn't in my message box or the chat with that person. But I know I sent it because I followed them and bookmarked their pictures to not seem rude. Is the site gaslighting me into making me think I never sent the message? Or did they read the message, deleted it and blocked me?

>>5159 There seems to be a two-step confirmation to sending messages. I encountered it myself when trying to message someone, it never got sent. Someone trying to message me also encountered the same issue. >Associated My pixiv, Follows, Bookmarks, and Messages will also be removed if access is blocked. Messages sent and received by the users will be deleted. The same restrictions apply not just to the blocked user, but also the user who set up the block. Please keep this in mind. If the person blocked you, you won't be able to message them anymore. You'll also lose all your bookmark/likes of their work. On a side note, some Indonesian faggot keeps making new accounts to spam INSHALLAH shit on my Atago posts as well as everybody else's. Weird motherfucker, this is the third time I've blocked him already.

>>5161 >There seems to be a two-step confirmation to sending messages. I encountered it myself when trying to message someone, it never got sent. Well that's shit because I don't know if it ever got sent and I don't want to message him with my request twice to not sound desperate in case the first one really did send. I guess I'll just have to live without it but I really wanted that lora.

>>5161 Why don't I get any of the fun bots ;_; >>5163 Why not just message again, saying "sorry not sure if the message made it". Not much to lose. As first anon points out if they really did block you you won't get through anyway.

wonder if I should drop my LORAs making service for the general public, it seems like 4chan hates people doing payed stuff with AI in general (I get paywalling LORAs no one asked you to make for more than 1 dollar being lame though desu)

>>5416 If you're making money out of your own effort and people are happy with your work then good for you. If you're bragging about how you're fleecing retards out of their money and how you're making mediocre loras and paywalling them for ludicrous prices then you deserve to be purged.

>>5422 not doing any of that so I'm good then, if normies or anyone that doesn't know shit wants to hire me for basic stuff I'll do it I don't promote my shit like the anon on /hdg/

>>5423 Yeah don't be obnoxious about it like that refu/g/ee. Preferably don't paywall it either, but what's really stupid is coming to the fount of open source knowledge and tools you used and asking for tree fiddy.

Nip asked me if I would open a skeb, what's the practical difference with pixiv requests? Apparently they are very against communication between the commissioner and commissioned, anything else?

>>5833 ive never been on the artist side of either service, but ive used both as a requester off the top of my head pixiv gives the artist a smaller window to accept (and finish i think) requests, i think pixiv requests have to be completed in a flat 90 days or something skeb has much longer acceptance/completion requirements and also shows people stats like completion rate, average completion time etc i guess skeb might be preferable to artists because it usually gives them more time to accept/finish something, otherwise they're more or less the same

I requested a manual payout from fanbox for the first time, but I haven't received the payment or any confirmation email from either pixiv or paypal despite the transfer supposedly going through. Is this normal? It wouldn't surprise me if the transfer needs multiple days to show up on paypal, but not receiving any confirmation is making me a bit nervous

>>6427 Same here, actually. No funds received on my end either. Hopefully we'll find out in a few days.

>>6427 >>6441 The first time takes a day or so

>>6441 >>6512 Yep just received it, took about 8 hours

>most pixiv twitter fags not wiping their metadata >means they didn't do photoshop edits lazyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>fulfill first request >nervous I didn't meet their expectations >message from requester >Please give her huge honkers Well shit nigga, that's all you had to say. (Not actually easy to inpaint onto clothing though)

well fuck me Japanese man on twitter posting useful shit https://github.com/alemelis/sd-webui-ar

>LORAs autist >Promptlet so I don't have the skill to make my LORAs look amazing the absolute pain

>>6818 Where is that ladder from coomer to mathematician.

Whats a paywall site that allows both loli and uncensored? With Fanbox and Patreon you get one or the other.

>>7073 no loli on patreon uncensored is good to go loli is allowed on fanbox, no uncensored allowed sorry couldn't have been much help anon, uncensored and loli seems more plasuiable if you are using crypto to get paid

>>7110 You mention crypto but I'll add what I would like to post for payment is not that skeevy, lets say non realistic (so no uncanny realistic looking facial features) pics of the average Pokemon Trainer. I know a ton of people post those already on Patreon but I feel they may be toing the line here and could be slapped at any moment anyway.

Okay so how exactly do you send a message on pixiv? I'm going to try again and I don't want this shitty platform to eat the message again

>4chin anon making 1k a month I’ve only made 20 bucks so far pain but hey my greatest achievement was teaching a nippon man how to use the webui and LORAs for free

>>7122 I've sold shit online and the real trick is to have the luck to find an idiot willing to pony up the cash. It's not about quality, quantity and sometimes it's not even about the price because I could be struggling to sell for $20 while people I know sold easily for $100. It's all about having the luck (or smarts) to reel in the customers and get them to pay up.

Pixiv analytics tells me 5% of people this week were linked to one of my images via Youtube. I have infinite questions.

>>6780 i usually do edits and then sd upscale after

Am I allowed to make a Fanbox plan where I let subs make a request per month via messages, or does that violate some policy? I received an R-18 commission from a message but the guy can't pay through pixiv requests since he's not in Japan. I considered PayPal but they don't seem to allow transactions for NSFW stuff, and I'd rather not get my account suspended. Unless it's easy to hide what the transaction is actually about I guess.

>>7508 you can do nsfw requests outside of japan you literally just have to set your language to japanese on pixiv and it works idk about the message thing for fanbox though, on the pixiv site itself its against the rules to talk about ongoing requests in messages but you're only getting caught if the other guy reports you

>>7556 Do I have to change the language or the guy making the request? Either way, he ended up paying me through Paypal after I sent an invoice without mentioning anything NSFW, which honestly is preferable since their fee is lower. I just hope it's not easy for someone to try to refund the money after I completed the request >its against the rules to talk about ongoing requests in messages but you're only getting caught if the other guy reports you That's retarded, why is that even a thing. It's common to want to ask for clarifications on a request

>>7591 as far as i know only the requester has to switch languages but ive never received requests so idk if it works the same way as the receiver

i guess skeb is banning AI? judging by nalgami's recent tweets https://twitter.com/nalgami

Perusing Kakure Eria's fanbox stuff on sadpanda (sorry bro...), I noticed a lot of his stuff seems to be uncensored. What's up with that, he should be big enough to have caught Pixiv's attention? >>7613 I created terms for and received an R18 request while Pixiv UI was in English no problem. >>7591 >That's retarded, why is that even a thing I think it's actually meant to protect the artists and save pixiv moderation hassle. A lot of the guidelines basically prevent requestors from getting super anal, requesting endless corrections, etc. The artist's delivery is supposed to be final and caveat emptor.

>>7261 The ones I'm really curious about are when there's one from some random persons fanbox

>>7844 Hopefully citing your work?

>>7944 thats probably it the only other reason i can think of is someone accusing me of img2imging someone elses art but i dont do that

Damn randanon you found a good customer

>>8287 Inpainting that shit takes like 6 hours since there are 6 characters per request, it's not as great as it looks lol If only I could draw better...

>>8475 On top of that, I gather+train the loras myself so that's another hour per character that I don't have.

>>8475 >>8476 Heh, true. I didn't pay much notice to the requested characters. Hour per character is still pretty quick though, I take hours on LoRA. Would like those im@s girls when you're done by the way...

>>8549 Still just slightly above minimum wage, if you factor in the time spent making loras+testing loras+inpainting, probably get more money flipping burgers topkek Yeah, I'll share the IM loras when I'm done.

Anyone else get shit like this lmao

>>8586 Is that an actual pixiv request Is this weird motherfucker actually paying money for this

>>8591 No though I also don't have pixiv requests on. Reminds me of Spiderman & Elsa kind of shit

>>8586 I haven't gotten anything that weird yet luckily

>>8597 turn them on. >>8586 jfc even for 10k yen I'd refuse this

>>8586 Clearly your fault for attracting such a viewership, fucking lol

I'm about to create a pixiv to post my prompts, I have a few questions. Do I have to censor vagina and penis? Is loli allowed in fanbox? Fanbox allows uncensored stuff?

>>9130 yes you have to censor penises/vagina or you get a ban, im not sure about the other two questions but I know realistic loli is NOT allowed because it scares off card payment companies

>>9130 >Is loli allowed in fanbox? It was banned for a bit but anons here said they rolled that back. I haven't tested this boundary myself, cannot sustain a fanbox with current energy or following. >Fanbox allows uncensored stuff? Definitely NOT. And Patreon allows censored but not loli, so the inverse.

>>9297 *Patreon allows uncensored

What do you guys post on fanboxes? I mostly treat it as a dump for extras or below quality gens for people that wanna support. I've had like 2-3 dudes nope out right after subbing though, is that normal? I still feel like Patreon is somehow better cause all these successful accs are on Patreon, am I schizo?

how the fuck do you check for (You)s on this shit site, it doesnt let me ctrl F them

>>9443 Works for me. Although it forgets which posts were yours relatively quickly, if that's the problem you're encountering.

>>9297 Not sure if they can still do this but iirc you can get around the censored stuff on fanbox by providing PSD files of your censored piece so the recipient can just dencensor it and export it uncensored. I noticed in kemono leaks that two artists did this with their fanbox work but forgot if that was before/after pixiv's attempted purge.

What are the rules for providing links to uncensored? I mean FFS pixiv literally has full twitter integration and twitter allows uncensored so I assume it's allowed on some level. But is there like, a degree of separation needed? Like, you can't like directly to uncensored, but you can link to a page that has links to uncensored?

>>9614 If you're linking it in your pixiv post it seems to be ok. If you're linking it in your fanbox (paid service where pixiv takes a cut) they will clap your ass if they find out regardless of it being a link.

Any of you lads make a Civitai for your LORAs? I did just to get some more exposure but honestly I gotta learn the controlnet stuff so my fanbox shit is actually worth the price

>>9517 >>9614 In theory they will follow links, and the help even says explicitly that your PSD must not become uncensored simply by turning off layers. But all that said, I asked this about Kakure Eria's fanbox earlier and am still confused... >>7722

Anyone else getting stressed out over his gens and quality more since starting pixiv/fanbox? Ever since I did a commission and actually fixed all the hands and shading etc it stopped being the same.

>>9638 That person posts their works how? If there is enough of a barrier perhaps they stop giving a shit to check, or perhaps its luck / turning a blind eye for big money makers since a portion goes to their pockets.

>>9658 Sadpanda rip links to: https://haku3490.fanbox.cc Looks to be censored in the thumbnails, so I'm not sure of the provenance of the uncensored files in the sadpanda gallery. Apparently they have a discord, are they using that for distribution lmao

>>7591 how did this go for you? any guide on this, never really used patreon and I just got messaged by someone asking for request prices so I expect it might be the same case, since I've requests open.

>>9741 never really used paypal*

>>9741 I made an invoice for the agreed payment amount and sent it to the guy via email in paypal. I assume it makes it harder to do a refund scam that way, and since you're the one who types the service description you can avoid any mention of NSFW stuff since it goes against paypal's policy. I followed this random twitter guide I found: https://twitter.com/commodorebeeps/status/1385677425770643458?lang=en although it's fairly outdated and the invoice interface is much more simplified now. I couldn't find a way to change the type of goods and ended up receiving the customer's home address along with the payment, not sure if there is a way to prevent that

Is there a good way to bypass Pixiv rules regarding the no communication about commissions part? It's such a hassle, do people set up discords for it or something?

How has business been going for you guys? Me? Pixiv numbers are good but no cash is flowing in, maybe it's just bots but I might have to learn how to do the controlnet video AI animations so I can have a tiktok or youtube shorts to get more eyes on my works

>>10125 Are you posting on Twitter as well? Seems to be important to get ur stuff out there. I've 2 people on fanbox but idk if they'll stick yet

>>10126 Yeah Twitter is hard, I'm not using bot tags enough or something because I know I'm not ghost banned. I just post my SFW stuff on twitter because I know what the cunny nsfw stuff I post safely on fanbox and pixiv would do

>>10127 >bot tags dunno whats that. I've had a few posts randomly implode a bit and get like 5x retweets than the rest, otherwise its just a very slow grind. You should latch onto some existing series if ur not doing that already, original stuff wont be going too far

>>10128 Yeah more genshin and vtubers would be a good idea, I'll keep an eye out on whats trending

Anyone know how to safely provide uncensored versions of fanbox images? Someone asked me for one in DMs and I don't wanna get blammed by the pixiv cops while fulfilling his request. >>10120 So far a few people have just been communicating with me in DMs before sending the request, since they wanted some clarification about what I was capable of doing. No further messages after I accepted the request tho. Like another person said, I think it's mostly to protect the creator from endless revisions as opposed to being against you. >>10125 >>10126 Fanbox going okae. A pretty penny for my troubles. Commissions-wise the amount of time I spend inpainting shit, removing wack stuff and fixing weird AI fingers makes it below minimum wage. Good thing I mostly do this for fun. I don't post to twitter because I'm banned from there and haven't been able to create new accounts. Doing popular gacha games will probably pull the views, I post whatever the fuck I want but that happens to coincide with Azur Lane so yeaaah. If you're just posting random generated girls, pixiv is already inundated with them. If you're not doing accurate lora-generated franchise characters, without really high quality stuff+inpainting nobody will bother subbing because there's already 10 other people doing the same thing.

>>10120 They don't actually enforce it. >>10128 My Focalors gens (supposedly the next Genshin archon) have insane views compared to my other stuff despite the actual art quality being shoddy as hell from overfitting to the leaked concept art. I swear it must've been linked on NGA or something. >>10125 Might shutter the business permanently after taking the one commission honestly, wasn't too fun. Nip asked for bigger boobs (which I did deliver, boobs are easy enough to inpaint) and never said thanks, feels like I failed him. Pay was shit, getting my annual bonus (far more than a certain LoRA raider and on par with that ballsy uma musume patreon) put that in perspective. I think LoRA training is probably a bust as a market, the Japs caught up quickly and there doesn't seem to be demand for that narrow market segment (know enough to generate, don't know enough to train) anymore. I don't even get the random training advice questions anymore. Maybe I really should just do a fanbox, get paid to do what I'm already doing in theory. About to hit 2k followers, don't know if it would be cringe. Some ethotish guides I read suggest you should start patreon etc. around 10k followers for a stable base but maybe it doesn't matter. >>10183 all sounds valid. I would add marketing is probably another differentiator in a saturating market. Logistical question, you can't pause fanbox/patreon if you go on vacation or something right? Heading to Japan soon so that would be a long time without posts.

>>10187 >patreon at 10k I dont think theres any need to wait, im below 1k with a fanbox and had a few people try out a sub. >vacation I think for fanbox you can just inform them that there will be no posts for a while or outright remove sub option? I remember the guide talking about informing mostly. >>10183 I've had 2 anon requests possibly from the same guy, so far only finished one but I got a fan letter where he said he liked it - I was mostly worried about people disliking it thinking I wouldnt mind doing a slight revision but maybe im just retarded for worrying about that, considering it takes so fucking long to inpaint etc.

>>10192 Guess I'll think about it more. >You don't have to use FANBOX all by yourself. You can team up with other creators, and use FANBOX to create something together. I wonder how fun/cancerous an /hdg/ box would be

>>10219 It'd probably be pretty successful but imagine having to split the money between everyone and the bitching you'd have cause someone made more pictures that month than someone else. It'd be hell.

>>10226 Oh absolutely.

>>10192 >I was mostly worried about people disliking it Yeah, I know that feel. This same guy has commissioned me 4 times total now but I still get concerned about whether I'm doing a good enough job when I fulfilled the request the last three times. Still working on the fourth one.

Every so often someone posts a comment to tag the images as AI or such, why is the ai-generated tag that gets added automatically when you upload and tick the thing not good enough for these people?

>>3725 Catbox and Annie lora please

How do you tag your work on pixiv anyway? It's such a spaghetti that it decides to split 1 tag into 3 by itself.

>>11415 i just find the japanese tags i want and copy and paste them into the tag field

>>11416 How do you find it though on moonrune?

>>11423 Find the equivalent tag on danbooru, look at the wiki page, see if any of those japanese tags are actually legit or just translations. Sometimes they have like 10 images, indicating it's not really used. Tagging culture on pixiv is different and kind of stupid anyway

>>11425 I just want to tag the fanart and character name in moonrune at least at least. But I agree the system is kinda stupid

>>11432 if you just start searching for the character in the search bar it should bring up their japanese tag which you can click to autocomplete, then it's likely artwork with the character will have related tags you can copy and paste

>>11338 Here, have a bunch https://files.catbox.moe/a7r63w.zip The Annie LoRA / Embed if used are on civitai (I made the embed myself). The artist LoRAs are from all over I'm afraid, lot from /hdg/. You can check the gitgud or civitai.

>>11423 learn japanese or just look at images with the tags you want

How long does it take for pixiv to re-active a post? They took down my last post because of "lack of censorship", it feels like it was a bot because the post gone in seconds. I was posting everyday so they broke my streak.

>>11528 When pixiv does that, they just set it to private. You can literally just go in the edit post and set it back to public (just add a little bit of censoring and reply to their bot saying you did, I've never had any more trouble).

>>11529 I was using the link they provided to me through in my messages, and there was no option to set it back to public there. Guess I'll delete and reupload the image because I think it won't have the same impact if I just set it to public again.

>>11528 >>11530 not the other anon but i had the same thing happen to me a while ago, should be right here when you go to edit a post >I think it won't have the same impact if I just set it to public again this is probably true anyway though, im pretty sure i got niggered out of getting a spot on the rankings because of the one time i didnt censor it

>>11530 It does feel like setting a post private->public doesn't engage as much. Non-premium pixiv users are stuck in chronological order results aren't they? Maybe when you set it back to public it's still stuck where it would have been, now with 50 newer images ahead in the follow list or whatever. So you miss out on the views from when it was brand new.

>>11551 >rankings >with AI yeah right

>write in your profile you don't take requests but still get comments and private messages with "hey I like your stuff could I suggest x" or "I'll pay you for x" >even worse yet someone supporting you through fanbox does it Maddening. Not only because they don't read but because some of them probably do with how they word their message. Worst of all I think I'm too much of a softie so it annoys me further denying or ignoring them.

>>11630 there are separate rankings for AI images

>>11645 should rename it to Genshit Shitpact ranking instead

>>11651 yeah thats pretty true

I don't really understand this composable lora. Will it allows me to make 1 character embrace the other with that without using Controlnet? The UI option were too simple that I just doubt it'll be that easy.

>>11753 Given that the characters' "hitboxes" could be thought to "intersect", that is not an easy problem for latent couple+composable LoRA to solve with just divisions and not masking. Probably still need inpainting afterward.

leaving my links here https://twitter.com/HornyDiffusion https://www.pixiv.net/users/92352461

Apparently fanbox is still cracking down on loli >From skeb thread https://cedar.fanbox.cc/posts/5534907 https://deathfactory.fanbox.cc/posts/5533947 No more loli, incest, and rape on fanbox

>>12235 the 2nd guy mentions he had it link to uncensored content so maybe its that?

>>12235 and you guys almost had me convinced to start

>I fapped a lot to [pixiv post], thank you Ahh, just like the good ol days of scanlating porn, feels good man.

Pixiv is going through with their ban on indecent stuff, a lot more artists are getting messages from pixiv about flagged NSFW artworks. You guys are going to need to post stuff on other sites now.

So I'm wondering, what are other sites that are fine with hosting lewd loli shit?

>>12692 rule34.xxx accepts ai gens but I heavily doubt they let loli on there, ATFbooru does allow it though, in fact it encourages it

Post SFW versions on pixiv, paywall the NSFW on a friendly place

>>12685 pixiv or fanbox? pixiv removing nsfw would be the end of the site on the spot.

>>12722 it has to be fanbox but pixiv requests was included as well along with booth

>>12685 Source? Are they just banning lolis?

>>12768 You have to follow japans censorship laws to upload to pixiv, I.E. put black bars over the genitals. They don't give a fuck about loli

Been getting business for making LORAs for other people, mostly has been normies or coomers but I guess it makes sense those people would hire someone else to bake LORAs for them

Are you guys still doing the pixiv/social media game? I decided I finally have some time and experience to just spam my art outside of the chans.

yes

Should I just tweet my pixiv uploads or what do I do to shill my shit?

You guys remember that shit about 'do not discuss requests in DMs' rule? Holy fuck I see why they added it now. Had this nightmare of a requester who kept adding on things he wanted in DMs and just piled on more and more things which would have led me to reject the request in the first place. Went along with some of it because I got dragged with the flow and felt like I was overcharging for AI shit anyway, but goddamn it was annoying as hell. The amount of fucking inpaint I had to do. Never doing this DM thing again.

here's my linku bros. I'll probably be light on loli fair warning, especially on twitter https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/93496936 https://twitter.com/airis_pict

>>15917 Here. 非公開でフォロー

>>8586 Wish I could if there's any trained model on that stuff lol (especially pokephilia)

Inkcels have influenced pixiv to the point that using style LORAs may be banned in the future, it's over https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=9522

>>16090 idc about styles I just wanna know if I'll be able to keep genning characters in their OG artstyle

>>16090 There's no way to prove they are or aren't using an artist style lora (unless it is just brutally obvious but most cases won't be), they would either have to force AI uploads to also include all the information related to the generated image including what LoRA and model were used to be allowed to post them, or they would just have to accept all takedown requests put forward by artists without question just even if they were only suspicious.

>>16099 its immediately fucking obvious if you're using an artist style lora unless you go out of your way to make it look different, at which point there is no problem

>>16100 nah you can just lower the strength on it and get something of a mid-way and at that point i wouldn't call it obvious. "that looks kinda like my art but it's a bit wrong"

>>16100 >>16101 you can also get a lot of mileage out of mixing artist loras, along with low strength. I imagine the main issue that's been getting out of hand is the daily rankings page has quite of few entries that are blatantly ripping off compositions as well as art style.

>>16105 even better, run the txt2img through img2img on another artstyle.

how much do you guys take per commission and how much effort do you put into fixing things up?

>>16090 it's getting really old watching retards who aren't familiar with the chinese fail to blame the chinese. i guarantee you this was triggered by hundreds of bugmen trying to sell artist loras they baked and directly tagging the artists in the advertisements, just like the "loli ban" was triggered by chinese selling access to actual cp over pixiv and using gens for advertisements and plausible deniability.

>>16090 cant see this anywhere anymore, did they back outta it?

>>16195 It's still there for me. >>16105 AI generations shouldn't be included in daily art rankings, or should have an entirely seperate daily ranking. Even deviantart, despite being so deep in AI's pocket it'll never see the light of day again, hasn't gone so far as to start awarding daily deviations to AI pieces. (They may eventually, but right now they're showing restraint. Both deviantart and Pixiv have it set up that you are not allowed to actually block AI images from appearing, you can only reduce the number you see, which is no doubt an intentional method of gradually forcing acceptance.)

>>16090 Seems its over https://www.fanbox.cc/@official-en/posts/5934381

>>16324 yeah it's over, I just got a few paying customers for fanbox too, damn

So fanbox is dead which means no loli art at least on a safe site, only other sites I can think of is Gumroad but not sure if Loli is safe there.

Patreon is kill too

>>16384 at least wait till they say anything concrete. >>16341 subscribestar?

>>16384 I'm afraid the timing of the Patreon post is probably a very good hint at where this is going.

>>16512 At this rate I’m only making my money from Fiverr commissions but the garbage waiting time for funds to pass through is such a garbage thing to deal with

>>16530 I've never heard of anyone doing commissions through Fiverr. Have people actually gone for that for you?

>>16538 Yeah it’s usually newfags or redditors that don’t want to bake their own LORAs, usually goes well the only shit that sucks is that Fiverr takes a cut and then makes you wait more than a week for your money to be deposited

Apparently I jumped into the ship way too late, I was waiting for my followers count to grow up before opening a fanbox or some shit. Does anybody here use subscribestar or some alternatives? I need to at least try to make some bucks so I can afford a good GPU and stop using cloud shit, it's just matter of time until the free machines shut down just like g**gle did.

it's fucking over https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/13wr880/pixiv_restricts_the_use_of_ai_new_rules/

>>17325 They came down much harder than I expected.

>>17325 If they don't go overboard with enforcing the style rule, the changes are good.

>>17330 yeah i'm curious about that. say if you're using a dragon ball character lora, how close is too close to the original style? will you just not be able to do fanart at all? if you can't do on model goku, or photoreal goku, is a goku that looks like a pixar character fine or is that stealing from pixar?

Hi hdg bros this is my pixiv https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/94794342

>>17325 >>17333 keep me posted if anyone gets banned for this. I think it *should* be fine to post characters in their OG style, well, I hope it is at least.

>>17393 >>17340 Fucking garbage.

>>17397 kill yourself nigger faggot

anyone uploading works when using artists/style LORAs getting hit by Pixiv's new rules yet?

>>17503 theres dudes that have fanbox with photoreal smolis...

pixiv users

>>17960 I'm almost certain that it's a shitpost

https://twitter.com/skbjijii https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/96264320 Just starting out, I plan to do lots of loli (as well as non-loli too).