Another study that found that women rated black faces as more attractive. >Here, however, it was found that, on average, the 100 Black male faces were perceived as more attractive than the 100 White male faces. This result is consistent with the findings of Lewis (2010) although the Black/White contrast was not explicitly reported in that article. One can conclude, therefore, that if one uses a set of faces that is representative of the populations then Black males are seen as more attractive than White males. The current findings that Black males are seen as stronger, more dominant and more masculine than White faces are consistent with Wade el al.’s findings. Unlike Wade at al’s findings, Black faces were perceived as being more socially competent than White faces but there was no robust difference for perceived warmth. Mixed-race faces, within this set, were not significantly different in their attractiveness from Black faces (unlike as reported in Lewis, 2010). Analysis of the mixed-race faces in isolation meant that any potential effect of hybrid vigor could be eliminated. In this way, they allowed for a correlational exploration of the relationship between race and attractiveness. The findings were that those male faces that were seen as being more Black were also seen as being more attractive https://sci-hub.se/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886910004617

Another study where black faces were rated as most masculine https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51708359_Racial_Stereotypes_and_Interracial_Attraction_Phenotypic_Prototypicality_and_Perceived_Attractiveness_of_Asians

Another study on facial masculinity and attractiveness. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225771571_Ain't_I_a_Woman_Towards_an_Intersectional_Approach_to_Person_Perception_and_Group-based_Harms

>>18688 Seems like a silly thing to post here, you can find a lot of studies that show the opposite Also a lot of really negative studies about black people and their performance in society What is this gonna prove?

>>18693 In society? This is about women wanting to get railed by black men

>>18718 Bruh, if women want to jump out of the window would you study their attraction to concrete floor?

>>18719 Yes. Are you retarded?

From this book on Anthropology. https://wellcomecollection.org/works/s296qvav/items?canvas=5&manifest=2 Mentions bbc several other times in the book, but this is the main part here.

>>18724 oh boy, this is going to be a fun read

Couple of other things. First, footnote from Richard Burton's 1001 nights where he talks about bbc, and how foreign women are tempted by it. Second, observation from a nurse and reputable quora poster. https://www.quora.com/profile/Michelle-Tag

Posted on another thread. Even slave owners knew Black men are sexually superior

>>18689 >The study had 10 women and 8 men participate real reliable study there

>>18752 This one >>18691 had 600 and found similar results. Cope more.

>>18753 It said "One hundred sixty-nine students". That's not a lot at all. This part is interesting in the study though: "The above studies demonstrated that perceivers held a strong association between “Blackness” and masculinity.....However, while both Black men and women were seen as more masculine than their White counterparts, this perception affected each group differently. Black men were seen as more attractive than White men, while Black women were rated as less attractive than White women. "

19th century New York had bbc brothels for women. Studies In The Psychology Of Sex Vol. 3 by Ellis, Havelock

>>18757 Black men taking longer to reach orgasm has been brought up multiple times in the images you've posted. It's not something I've ever really thought about, interesting.

>>18761 Yeah, In the anthropology books it mentions this is because of their blunted nervous system. The duller nervous system of blacks is brought up numerous times throughout the books and how it affects the men and women. It's why he says black women need bigger penises and longer sessions to be satisfied and why they don't respond to foreplay. Also why they survive traumatic events better. This is one of sever parts where it's mentioned. https://wellcomecollection.org/works/s296qvav/items?canvas=148&manifest=2&query=nervous

>>18771 I've also seen escorts mention blacks lasting longer as being one of several reasons why some don't take black clients, because they go the whole sessiona nd leave them sore, whereas other clients only last a portion of their time. https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/can-some-providers-explainblack-clients-dont-get-seen-615707?page=

>>18688 Reading whole books and studies because of a fetish kek I think even the sissies on the discord servers are less pathetic

>>18822 I'm honestly just glad there's still people reading books

http://www.heretical.com/smith/results.html "Girls really go for them in preference to white boys" Sometime in the second half of 1943 Life magazine showed pictures of black soldiers in London night clubs dancing with white girls. This was regarded as ‘material... calculating to unduly inflame racial prejudice both overseas and in UNITED STATES [sic].’ The result was a War Department censorship regulation prohibiting the passing for any purposes of amateur photographs ‘showing negro soldiers in poses of intimacy with white women or conveying “boy friend-girl friend” implications.’ On 7 March 1945 because of the ‘vigorous protest’ in Europe Eisenhower requested that this ban be lifted for such photographs intended for the soldiers’ personal use as opposed to those meant for publication. Despite all the prohibitions, white girls did go out with black soldiers, and these relationships had important repercussions. Arguably it was the most explosive aspect of the American presence, with four consequences all closely linked to each other. In the first place it was a major cause of the disturbances between black and white Americans, some of which resulted in deaths. Secondly, it affected British attitudes towards the blacks: most disliked the miscegenation they saw. Thirdly, females were largely blamed for ‘chasing’ the blacks and consequently British and white American opinions of British women were influenced. Lastly, there were several hundred illegitimate ‘brown babies’ born to English mothers, a problem which remained unsolved for some time in the post-war period. The disturbances at Leicester and Bristol indicated that sexual rivalry was a major reason, if not the major reason, for the clashes between black and white Americans, and this scenario was repeated in varying degrees up and down the country. Black women being few in number, all GIs were competing for the favours of a finite number of white women in Britain. That this would cause trouble was obvious at an early stage in the American presence. Professor Gilbert Murray, an Oxford don and a member of the BBC’s ‘Brains Trust,’ reported at the end of June 1942 that American whites were ‘taking a threatening attitude’ towards the blacks and were talking of ‘lynching any whom they find dancing with white girls.’ Murray went on to note that an ‘American colonel said in so many words that the great ambition of every one of these blacks was to rape a white woman!’ The words of the white soldiers themselves shed some light on the depth of feeling. From Northern Ireland a quartermaster corporal forecast trouble: It seems that several outfits of colored troops preceded us over here and have succeeded pretty well in salting away the local feminine pulchritude... the girls really go for them in preference to the white boys, a fact that irks the boys no end, especially those of the outfit that come from the north. No doubt there will be some bloodshed in the near future. Sheer gut response seems to have been the principal driving force of the white soldiers’ outrage. ‘I’ve seen nice looking English girls out with American Negro soldiers as black as the ace of spades,’ wrote a first lieutenant from Wellingborough. ‘I have not only seen the Negro boys dancing with white girls, but we have actually seen them standing in doorways kissing the girls goodnight.’ On occasions white vehemence went hand in hand with popular mythology in an attempt to rationalize why the blacks got on so well with the locals: ‘The lower classes of white girls... seem to prefer the coloured troops to white. “The good Lord was extra kind to the negro – so they say.”’ A member of a military police battalion in Liverpool did not mince words: ‘Honey you should see how the “old women” like to go around with negroes here. Perhaps they like to go around with them because they have immense Penises.’ British civilians were not immune to the rumours and reports of the sexual activity of the black GIs, especially in view of the likely principal stereotype about black people that was held in Britain at that time, namely that blacks were less sexually inhibited and capable of giving greater sexual satisfaction than white men. This attitude was typified by a civilian from Leamington Spa who felt in June 1944 that it was ‘horrible to see the white girls running round with the blacks but they do say once a black never a white, don’t they?’ A local fellow in Somerset was even blunter. His view, when he witnessed girls looking into a black GI camp, was that these maids ‘prick-mazed they be, prick-mazed.’ (pp. 197-199)

>>18822 nothing wrong with that honestly, people read and write entire books for worse reasons. >>18869 Even today where we have more accepting attitudes to interracial dating, white women overwhelmingly prefer white men. My theory on this is that the sentence about the white British women chasing the black soldiers is actually true. The type of women that would go out to a pub or club or any event to meet foreign soldiers are more likely to want to be with the men who are different from the men in their own country.

From a Czech anthropologist https://sci-hub.se/https://www.jstor.org/stable/658699

Not exactly nonfiction or academic, but interesting historical anecdote. Charlotte Bronte, Author of Jane Eyre wrote personal fanfiction that was basically BNWO tier fantasy of a white run colony being overthrown by native black revolution led by a broad chested, savage black man who ends up in the white queen's palace room. She called the vison a moment of ecstasy

From the Autobiography of Malcolm X

Black American troops cavorting with European women during WWII, as per >>18869

>>19243 damn is that why she never got married or had any kids?

>>19250 Or maybe the other way around?

>>18870 >The type of women that would go out to a pub or club or any event to meet foreign soldiers are more likely to want to be with the men who are different from the men in their own country This is undoubtedly true, those girls would have banged plenty of Brits while a chance to hook-up with a black guy would have been a much rarer occurrence. I imagine there was an element of social justice to it as well since American racism was a serious point of contention at the time. A lot of Euros found the segregation and general disdain towards blacks that America upheld to be disgusting and immoral, so laying a negro was a way to show how progressive you were by dunking on the racists. Remember that the British public are the ones who, despite having barely any blacks in the country, decided that blacks were men and brothers and that it was their moral duty to abolish slavery worldwide by force.

>>18688 Are these peer reviewed and published in a scientific journal by science?

>>19267 Published in Mankind Quarterly which is peer reviewed (albeit controversial). Funny that a journal associated with eugenics and "white supremacy" is publishing a study showing sexual superiority of blacks.

>>19243 Do you know where to read the fanfiction? Or at least can you tell me the name of the book in the images

>>19341 They got collected in a book published later https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Glass-Town-Angria-Gondal-ebook/dp/B005PUWTD6/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=tales+of+glass+town&qid=1587436574&sr=8-1 This is the article https://www.jstor.org/stable/3189621

>>18724 >>18771 The links got 404'd

>>19357 https://archive.org/details/untroddenfieldso00xjac

>>19358 Wait, did you read the entire book?

>>19360 Yes, bbc posting aside, there's tons of interesting stuff in it.

>>19361 Your devotion to this fetish is so strong that you read an anthropology book to see if there were any white women that lusted after black men 200 years ago. Or maybe you just wanted to read the book and the historical BMWF stuff was a bonus.

>>19362 I knew it had something about bmwf stuff, so I checked it out, bu then I looked through the table of contents, and there were so many other things that stood out a being something inteesting to read, I just sat down and started reading from the beggining. There is a lot of detailed stuff you will never find discussed in other books written since, like autistic examinations of different race genitals and the effects of anal sex. Also, observations about the down and dirty habits of people in that time period, sexual scandals that have been long forgotten about, and trivia like how many women used to fake their virginity. I posted some of what I mentioned.

>>19250 She died pregnant of TB a few months away from giving birth.

>>18721 You're stupid and mentally ill

>>18727 Jesus Christ, this lady preyed on a Democrat supporting boy.

>>19363 I won't lie, this is somewhat interesting.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40615-014-0049-8 Black men have much higher levels of testosterone than white males.

https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/does-africa-need-larger-condoms Race Realism

>>19747 And if any guys here want to chat about the BBC question from a race realist perspective feel free to add me on discord: racerealist_89843

New York By Gaslight, 1850 by George Foster https://archive.org/details/newyorkbygasligh0000fost/page/124/mode/2up?view=theater

Killers of the Dream by Lilian Smith. 1949. A Southern woman critiquing her own society. She seems to claim that Southern women felt sexually deprive and unhappy with segregation and had widespread understanding among each other about their fantasies with presumably black men. https://archive.org/details/killersofdream00smit/page/124/mode/2up?view=theater

The golden trade; or, A discovery of the river Gambra, and the golden trade of the Aethiopians. From Explorer Richard Jacobson, who travel along the Gambian river in 1620. HE talks about the size of burdensome members https://archive.org/details/goldentradeordis0000jobs/page/66/mode/2up Right is Race: The Reality Of Human Differences by Vincent Sarich & Frank Miele https://archive.org/details/VincentSarichFrankMieleRaceTheRealityOfHumanDifferences2004WestviewPress/page/n55/mode/2up?view=theater

>>20157 I'm not a blacked fag, but I'm honestly impressed by the research.

>>18724 The book can no longer be found through the link . What happened? Can we have the book's name?

>>20276 https://archive.org/details/untroddenfieldso00xjac This is another online version of it . Although the original was divided into two volumes, and this one is combined into one. Some parts from the original seem to be missing, not sure if it's what I posted though.

check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seEd0mnaMkg

>>20304 The focus here is more on the physical characteristics of blacks and women's attraction to them. Just posting population stats doesn't add much.

Hardly scientific, but an interesting tinder experiment from a guy comparing Black and White guys in Vancouver area. His black subject did a lot better, contrary to what a lot of other people claim. The article was originally posted on the ReturnofKings site, but that place shut down after Roosh went full trad. it is archived here https://manosphere.at/2017/11/26/my-tinder-experiment-confirms-that-girls-in-western-canada-prefer-black-men-over-white/

https://www.womens-health.com/boards/forum/sex-sexual-health/sex/53097-have-you-ever-had-sex-with-a-black-guy >I have been with a black man and there have been times when I've missed the sex. It was mind blowing! It certainly didnt hurt that he lived up to the stereotype of "black men have bigger penises". He was really big and knew how to use it. I liked the contrast of our bodies next to each other, and he had a way with me. I liked how dominant he could become and he knew what he wanted. >The hype is true. I've had several, and black men are just generally more well-endowed and the best performers (among men). Every white guy I've been with has ended up being submissive to me, but the black guys have challenged me, and I've actually gotten lost in the feeling of being 'taken' by them instead of always being the one in control. So if you're curious, by all means, do it. You won't be sorry >I know it's a stereotype (and probably racist) that black men have larger penises but in my experience with three back males in my life, they all were larger than average. Despite what some people say size does matter to me so the sex with two of them was great; the third, not so much. >I would agree with circus. my husband is black n very well endowed. I know latina women are curious about the "myth", too. My latina friends n cousins have asked me if it's true that black men are hung really big. I just giggle n point at my pregnant belly n they all start laughing. A couple of them asked me if what he does to me hurts or feels good, cuz they want to experience a black mans sex. I luv it, but I'm a size queen, my own personal preference. >The black man I experience in my earlier twenties was ebony black. I have to say it was one of the most incredible nights of my life. We both rather enjoyed watching ourselves in the mirror. The stark contrast between my white skin against his black skin was beautiful, and erotic. He was big, at least 11 inches, and uncircumcised. I enjoyed it immensely, but not all of him fit, and I like to have that pelvic contact.

So I recently found the blog of this woman called Jane Wood, who is some kind of pro white trad wife. Her blog is surprisingly old, and going back, there's quite a few discussions on there about white women and black men. The place seemed to draw quite a motley collection of commenters, and in some discussions on the subject, some old boomer women spilled the beans on what they're experiences were. Interesting to note that high school girls dating black football players was a popular thing almost 60 years ago in America according to one. The blog https://www.thinkinghousewife.com/

From a documentary about female sex tourists in the Caribbean.

>>20780 >back in France the men are afraid of commitment The sheer fucking irony of that statement when blacks have the highest rate of unmarried pregnancy and then abandoning the child.

>>20780 When women are getting that really good dick, they'll make up any rationale to justify what they're doing. They can't just sit in front of the camera and say it's all about sex for them, because they care too much about looking like a slut.

>>18727 source?

>>18822 that's based, though? intellectual fetish > gooning

Are we also allowed to post the vast majority of evidence that shows that women think white men are more attractive than black men? Or is this just a LARP thread where we cherry pick the evidence where black men do well?

>>20906 Well, I think everyone here has already seen the dating app data charts that get constantly posted in threads whenever bbc is talked about online, so there is no point just spamming them here again and taking up space in thread. But if people want to discuss those charts in greater detail and context than just their surface level results, than that is okay.

Nancy Cunard was an upperclass British heiress who rebelled against her family and ran in Artist circles in Europe. She was a muse to many famous artists of the 20's. She got big into antiracism and pro black activism and starting dating many black men. She eventually wrote the Negro Anthology, which was a large tome about black America. She also traveled to many black regions around the world and wrote essays on it. I've skimmed a bunch of her essays and one thing that stands out is her frequent tendency to contrast the stuffy, rigid, cold and inhibited aspects of the White civilized world; be it the architecture or the culture, with the primitive, physical and vital qualities of the black communities. She shows a clear preference for the less civilized, but more lively qualities of the blacks, and the reign of physicality of intellectual sterility. I might expand on this point at a later time and how it is relevant to women and black men today, and white men's confusion on the nature of it that you see so often in right wing circles. But the pages I'm posting photos of are the last two in her essay Black Man and White Ladyship. Which she wrote as an explanation on race to her mother that was outraged by her relationship. As you can see, she kind of balks at the suggestion that she should consider blacks inferior because of their low technological achievement, as she sees those things as nothing but trivialities that separate one from the vitality of living, and punctuates this preference for the vital by a clear indication of being partially influenced by lust when she plainly states that "nature has given him the best body among all the races". She seems to see the superiority of the black man's body as an argument in and of itself against white civilization. Very interesting stuff to get into with that.

>>20923 I had already noticed this phenomenon ( as I'm sure many others did) but it's interesting to see how far back it goes . The most clear manifestation of this rigid civility vs uncivilized liveliness is in how popular twerking is in northern and eastern Europe which is also spreading into east Asia As well as this fascination with all things getho

>>20923 Reminds me of the two Rothschild heiresses who abandoned their aristocrat husbands to be with trendy black musicians. Pannonica de Koenigswarter and Kate Emma Rothschild. Crazy that this happened more than once in same family, half a century apart.

>>20977 You are also missing the Norwegian princess who relinquished her royal duties to join some black alternative medicine shaman in America https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/08/norwegian-princess-quits-royal-duties-work-shaman-fiance-martha-louise And the British aristocrat who ran away and had a baby with a convicted rapist from Florida https://www.insider.com/constance-marten-aristocrat-still-missing-newborn-and-rapist-partner-2023-1

This thread is making my total innocent southern belle friend’s decision to give up her marriage to birth a black baby make a lot more sense

The first quote comes from Charles White who was " was an English physician and a co-founder of the Manchester Royal Infirmary and the St Mary's Hospital for Lying in Women in 1790. White made contributions in the fields of orthopaedics, surgery, and obstetrics. He was a founding member of the Portico Library and of the Manchester Literary and Philosophical Society, where he was also Vice President for 23 years." He wrote this book An account of the regular gradation in man, and in different animals and vegetables - which discusses race and it relation to the animal world. https://archive.org/details/b24924507/page/60/mode/2up The second is from the Czech anthropologist Aleš Hrdlička. He immigrated to then U.S. and then traveled around the Americas studying different peoples in it. In one instance, he studied the physical differences between black and white children in America and published it in the American Anthropologist journal. This is part of what he found https://www.jstor.org/stable/658699?seq=4

>>21056 The Latin phrases in the first one are as follows: >To the length of twelve inches >In this case the penis is also much longer and wider >Much firmer and harder

The problem with right wing race realism is that it's more fiction than reality. If you're going to make the case that races are different from each other then it's perfectly reasonable for whites to have advantages ( intelligence, creativity, reason) and for negros to have advantages as well ( physical strength,size, virility). The thing is,there was a time where racists were perfectly okay with saying' niggers are just good at sex and nothing else' but eventually,they realized that wasn't as much of an insult as they hopped. So now,it's white men are better at everything.

>>21001 We need to see her bro and hear more about this

>>21063 This thread isn't the thread for that. Post it in some other greentext thread.

>>21060 And if insulting blacks is all the right wing racists can offer, then where's the superiority? The superior is obviously better. It does not need to tear down everything else to pretend.

>John Ogilby (also Ogelby, Oglivie; 17 November 1600 – 4 September 1676) was a Scottish translator, impresario, publisher and cartographer. He was probably at least a half-brother to James Ogilvy, 1st Earl of Airlie, though neither overtly acknowledged this. Ogilby's most-noted works include translations of the works of Virgil and Homer, and his version of the Fables of Aesop. From His book Africa which is stated as : The most extensive account of Africa published in English in the seventeenth century

>>20923 There's an attraction between stale, frigid cultures and African/Caribbean vibes . I got into the whole dancehall/dhq gyals from that thread posted a while ago and I got really into it . I got curious about it's presence in east Asia and while I expected maybe a few,I ended falling into this rabbit hole . There's an a wide network of dancehall clubs, especially in south Korean. It's both unexpected and makes perfect sense when you consider how lifeless south Korean society is .

>>20923 Imagine being this much of a coomer that you ratioanlise you fetish like this. Cringe.

Currently reading Sex and Race by J.A. Rogers, first published in 1940. The first of three volumes. I'll post what stands out to me. There's this page on Arab literature. And a second part on BMWF in Apartheid South Africa

>>21146 >My wife was frightened into having a black baby >The wife laughed Lol Why can't the man refrain from inviting needless redicule upon himself? Just keep the negro away from you for fuck sake

>>21165 >White*

>>18691 I read this study. I don't think you're completely wrong, but it's a weird study. In study 2 faces were obscured and the vast majority of participants in study 1 were male. Are there really no studies that just look at the matter of attractiveness specifically?

>>21167 I think that would be considered unseemly by academia unfortunately. These things always have to be tied into some perceived greater social issue that has to be rectified to be considered worthy of study, at least when race is involved.

>>21146 White women spreading syphilis to blacks is kinda funny. >>21169 True. I checked the studies and their citations and most of them are Asian authors complaining about Asian women being fetishized and Asian men being rated unattractive. I found a larger study called Racial Preferences in Dating (2008) from Fisman et al. with 400 participants. Didn't really present the data I was looking for, but it also stated Asian men were rated very low. Compared to the attractiveness ratings of Asian men, those of White men are kinda small. It's not really a massive preference in favor of black men or against white men. Men in general actually get rated pretty low, usually beneath the median on their scales.

it’s up to us to put forth the greatest and most definitive study on this phenomenon ourselves

Without wanting to dispute a lot of the stuff posted here, I wanted to add that blacks are more likely to lie on surveys than whites. So I tend to take their stories with a grain of salt.

>>21146 >Infanta Eulalia, Duchess of Galliera (María Eulalia Francisca de Asís Margarita Roberta Isabel Francisca de Paula Cristina María de la Piedad; 12 February 1864 – 8 March 1958), was the youngest and last surviving child of Queen Isabella II of Spain and Francisco, Duke of Cádiz, and the youngest sister of King Alfonso XII. She authored memoirs that were controversial for their critical perspective and allegations about the political policies of various Spanish and foreign governments. >In August 1925, Eulalia wrote Courts and Countries After The War In this book she talks about her travels and observation about the state of various countries in Europe. On the subject of Portugal, she pretty much states that the Portuguese women and English women expats in Lisbon are obsessed with bbc. https://archive.org/details/courtsandcountri011111mbp/page/n155/mode/2up?view=theater And on the subject of Iberia, another excerpt from Sex and Race on the right. About black men in 1930's Spain.

Apparently both Napoleon's sister, and his wife Josephine were coalburners. His sister Pauline married a very rich man solely for his money, but didn't have much regard for him, and cheated on him quite a bit Paul Barras, the French politician, who was the main leader of the French regime between 1795-1799, wrote his memoirs later that mentioned both of them He said about Pauline: >The princess went to take the waters of Greoulx. She accepted the kindly ministrations of her bather, M. Gravier, the proprietor of the baths. While passing through Aulps, on her way to Nice, her Highness was seriously ill. Her illness was ascribed to excesses of licentiousness committed by her not only in Europe and in San Domingo with the white men composing the army, but with the negroes, as she had been desirous of instituting a comparison between them. Her licentiousness had produced an incurable disease. Too weak to walk, she had to be carried about. https://archive.org/details/memoirsbarrasme06durugoog/page/220/mode/2up She was also know to have a large negro servant who "bathed" her every day. About Josephine he wrote the text posted to the right. *Beauharnais being her name before their marriage. And called the creole for being born in the Carribean https://archive.org/details/memoirsbarrasme03durugoog/page/64/mode/2up?view=theater

Some interesting things about German women and black occupation soldiers in the post ww1 Rhineland. Apparently they were thirsting after bbc like crazy. The first text is from General Henry T. Allen, who was commander of the American forces in Germany after the war, and wrote this in one of his reports to the secretary of state. https://archive.org/details/americanrepresen01unit/page/97/mode/1up?view=theater The second is from journalist Lilli Jannasch. She wrote an article in a German newspaper denouncing the allegations of atrocities against women by saying that most of the women feel a special allure for black men and are receptive to them, She also mentions some interesting old anecdotes about African tribesmen on exhibition in Germany getting whisked away by German women to have sex with. https://books.google.ca/books?id=zFkEAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false A third text comes from a French writer denouncing the same allegations in an article in the L'Intermédiaire des chercheurs et curieux Journal. What he wrote translates as: >Our good Africans," he says, "have violated only those German virgins who wished to be violated. Furthermore, I have noticed in the different countries of the world I have visited that a difference of race acts as a stimulus. . . Twenty-five years ago at Copenhagen the male element of a Negro village exhibited in the famous public garden of Tivoli obtained such a great success with the young girls of the town that when the troop was leaving Denmark, I saw with my own eyes a pretty large number of these blond Ophelias accompany them to the station with, all the marks of the most profound desolation at parting from the black Othellos of whom they had been the casual Desdemonas." https://archive.org/details/lintermdiaired85pariuoft/lintermdiaired85pariuoft/page/486/mode/2up

>>21660 Fucking lol 😂 White men really took it upon themselves to become the ultimate cockblocks

>>21660 >the black Othellos of whom they had been the casual Desdemonas I didn't know who Othello and Desdemona were until I did a bit of research. I'm surprised to see that Shakespeare wrote a love story between a dark skinned man(his race is debatable) and a white woman.

>>21660 The letters claiming that the women where fine with the black men has been disproved multiple times and was just a stunt by occupation forces to cover up the black terror on the Rhineland and make the “good guys” look less like assholes for releasing a bunch of feral niggers on the German population don’t believe everything you read

>>21673 Not necessarily doubting you, but do you have any info or sources about that?

>>21667 If you think that shit's wild, go and enjoy Titus Andronicus. Aaron is Black, has been portrayed by Black actors since the 1800s, and the whole play is so batshit insane that it was absent from the stage for some 300 years until the license of the Roaring 20s allowed it back.

>>21679 Sorry, that's 300 years absent from the ENGLISH stage.

Psychological Science (vol 17, p 830) >Preferences for mates that possess genes dissimilar to one's own at the major histocompatibility complex (MHC), a polymorphic group of loci associated with the immune system, have been found in mice, birds, fish, and humans. These preferences may help individuals choose genetically compatible mates and may adaptively function to prevent inbreeding or to increase heterozygosity and thereby immunocompetence of offspring. MHC-dissimilar mate preferences may influence the psychology of sexual attraction. We investigated whether MHC similarity among romantically involved couples (N= 48) predicted aspects of their sexual relationship. All women in our sample normally ovulated, and alleles at three MHC loci were typed for each person. As the proportion of MHC alleles couples shared increased, women's sexual responsivity to their partners decreased, their number of extrapair sexual partners increased, and their attraction to men other than their primary partners increased, particularly during the fertile phase of their cycles. TLDR: Genetic dissimilarity is attractive to women and they're more likely to cheat on their partners if the more similiar they are. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10847-dont-pair-up-with-matching-genes/

Some quotes mentioned in Sex and Race Vol. 2 This time about Brazil. The first is from French Politician and Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau. After serving as minister of the interior, he took some time to travel South America and wrote a book about it. He mentions mixing of Portuguese women and black men here. https://archive.org/details/southamericatoda011092mbp/page/n349/mode/2up?view=theater The second is from American physician and founder of the American College of Surgeons Franklin H. Martin. He also wrote a book about South American travels and mentions German women and black men. https://archive.org/details/southamericafro01martgoog/page/n222/mode/2up?view=theater

Two accounts of Mixing in Mexico. Apparently blacks most disappeared there because the native women preferred them so much over anyone else. First is from American historian H. H. Bancroft's History of Mexico Volume Two https://archive.org/details/historyofmexico00bancroft/page/772/mode/2up?view=theater Second is From Alexander Von Humboldt. He was: " a German polymath, geographer, naturalist, explorer, and proponent of Romantic philosophy and science.[2] He was the younger brother of the Prussian minister, philosopher, and linguist Wilhelm von Humboldt (1767–1835).[3][4][5] Humboldt's quantitative work on botanical geography laid the foundation for the field of biogeography, while his advocacy of long-term systematic geophysical measurement pioneered modern geomagnetic and meteorological monitoring.[6][7] He traveled Mexico extensively in the early 1800's and wrote Political Essay on the Kingdom of New Spain in 1811 https://archive.org/details/b29350451_0001/page/162/mode/2up?view=theater

>>22009 i know sex and race wasn't meant to be erotica-as far as we know-but it's damn hot read anyway love how the negro is so deeply ingrained in white history

Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, the father of modern anthropology. A collection of his anthropological treatises were released in 1865 and contained this excerpt on bbc and women's sexual preference for negroes https://archive.org/details/anthropologicalt00blumuoft/page/248/mode/2up?view=theater Right is from Julien Joseph Virey, a French naturalist and anthropologist who wrote a work on women. In a part where he touches on female sexuality, it he mentions their penchant for black men. The quotes translates as such: >In Asia, in South America as in Africa, women often abandon themselves with passion to Negroes, because this type of man is usually more robust in love and more strongly constituted than whites. https://archive.org/details/b22028808/page/38/mode/2up?view=theater

US births by race of parents

>>22543 Unknown father being higher for white women than black women is surprising. Also interesting how race mixing for white women really picks up pace in the 80s and 90s.

>>22546 Keep in mind that unknown also includes unspecified, i.e. if the father just didn't put his race on the birth certificate for whatever reason. For me the most striking is just how much more prevalent the BMWF couples/births are compared to WMBF. For every 1 WMBF child, there are over 3 BMWF children.

>>22601 Well it's not striking really, when it's well known that most black women just don't find white men sexually appealing. A lot of white men don't find black women that attractive either, but men rarely get the opportunity to be picky. This is something that's been noted in posts already in this thread here >>18771 And another one I attached here

>>22546 Late 80's early 90's coincides with hip-hop and more specifically gangster rap appearing and being adopted by mainstream U.S. culture. >>22601 >the father just didn't put his race on the birth certificate for whatever reason That's because the father is long gone and the breeding sow just didn't put anything on the paper: 90%+ of biracial children born from black fathers are out-of-wedlock. That ratio of BMWF mutts is way higher than 3:1, these women are knowingly skipping BC to become baby mommas to virile bucks.

>>22602 Black women typically want white men and not vice versa, just watch this video and read the comments. https://youtu.be/9eDE8TyA7Ss Look at the “pasta and lobster” trend on TikTok Also, look at dating app statistics.

>>22627 No, that's wrong First of all, divestors are a tiny percentage of black women, and a lot of them end up getting over that identity when a black man they want ends up showing them attention. Also, that song you referenced is exactly the kind of situation that I quoted - they want a white guy because they want the status and perceived luxury that comes from dating a well of white guy, not because they find them the most sexually attractive. And the kinds of black women on sites like OKCupid were not representative at all of the normal black woman. Those old studies had a predominant demographic of educated, urban professionals who were looking for commitment and long term relationships. Nothing to do with sex.

>>22629 Anon speaks the truth. Back when OkCupid did those kinds of studies, it was a fairly niche site focused on long term relationships and popular mostly with big city university graduates. Messaging preferences there do not correspond with mating preferences across the demographic as a whole. But birth statistics don't lie, they are an official government source for the population as a whole, and they show who people actually like to breed with, rather than who they might like to settle down with in the end. And there is no mistake there - white women often breed with black men, but rarely in reverse.

>>22629 Status is about sexual attraction, do you think millions of women want to have sex with famous guys for any reason besides status? Leo DiCaprio is ugly and out of shape now and still has supermodels throwing themselves at him… >>22660 This is dumb IMO since most people having kids are extremely poor people, who cares if poor black men are having babies with pot white trash women? That does not make either of those groups desirable to average and above people

>>22660 Yes, a lot of people who cite those studies don't even bother to look further into them, they just see the results they wanted and see and ignore the fact that there's more context involved, like the specific demographics on the site. Also ignoring the fact that the founder of the site talks about it in the book he wrote and mentions this fact about how the black response rate outside the U.S. was almost equal to the white one. So there was some unique circumstances that skewed the U.S. results. And when you take into account the fact that black men make less money and have lower status positions overall compared to white guys, the fact that they got an almost equal response in these countries showed that there was some other strong source of attraction that overcame that penalty. https://www.docdroid.net/fFlC0Xd/christian-rudder-dataclysm-who-we-are-when-we-think-no-ones-looking-crown-publishers-2014-pdf

>>22661 >>22661 >Status is about sexual attraction, do you think millions of women want to have sex with famous guys for any reason besides status? Not really, that's some blue pilled boomer shit that dismisses the core of attraction. Status can increase attractiveness, but only to a point when weighted against physical qualities, and the type of status also matters. Having status for something like being known as the biggest badass, or dangerous, exciting person is sexy, but status of being a corporate manager with a high salary does not. That kind of status may make you more emotionally attractive to women, but not sexually though. Do you think Jeff Bezos' new wife actually gets wet thinking about him when she used to date athletes and fighters before him? And this status is especially not attractive to black women, who you are claiming are attracted to these well off white guys. Most black women would be way more attracted to the neighbourhood drug kingpin on their block than a rich white guy >Leo DiCaprio is ugly and out of shape now and still has supermodels throwing themselves at him… Read the quote here again >>22602 Because it tickles their vanity and ego to be the mistress of someone like that. It's about them, not him. Remember also Hugh Hefner who used to be surrounded by hot young women till he died, because he had money status, and connections. The women he was with did a good job of acting all lovey dovey and into him at the time, but as soon as he dropped they did tell-alls talking about how much they hated having to sleep with him and be around him.

>>22665 So what you think the core of attraction is about… what exactly? Almost every woman on earth wants to fuck Leo DiCaprio because he’s a famous actor Being a corporate middle manager is not “status” it just means you followed an extremely regular career path This just seems like a weird cope to say women actually want low status losers… for what reason???

>>22661 >who cares if poor black men are having babies with pot white trash women? I do :) Why arent poor white men having babies with ghetto trash black women in similar numbers, eh? You've got to admit there is something els going on there.

>>22677 >So what you think the core of attraction is about… what exactly? Physical indicators of strength, health and virility. Aggressive and confidant behaviour. Basically the qualities that were important in pre civilized history. >Almost every woman on earth wants to fuck Leo DiCaprio because he’s a famous actor Again, like I said, a lot of them probably don't want him, just the ego boost and benefits that come from being with him. No zoomer girl fantasizes about Dicaprio, I also never said wanted wanted low status men. I said that status can boost your attractiveness to a point, but it can't outweigh a large deficit in physical qualities as far as sexual attraction goes. You just somehow assumed that attractiveness equals low status according to me, and I don't know how you're doing that. Your entire argument at this point seems based on circular reasoning, straw manning and inability to infer things from what I said. I'm going to stop responding at this point. If you want to have the final word that is fine, but I hope that is the end of it. This thread is meant to be focused on posting information and texts from primary sources of info, not speculative arguments and theorizing based on what you feel. So hopefully everyone else gets back to that as well.

>>22694 >Physical indicators of strength, health and virility. Aggressive and confidant behaviour. Basically the qualities that were important in pre civilized history. pretty much. what most men are incapable of understanding(a pitfall of men's logical framework) is that what they believe women OUGHT to find attractive(what they need:stability;mild behavior;low aggressiveness;commitment...)is not what they DO find attractive(what they want:Physical indicators of strength, health and virility. Aggressive and confidant behaviour. Basically the qualities that were important in pre civilized history) of course,for most of human history,most men were too useful to ever come face to face with this reality,but in current modern society, attractiveness has outweighed the usefulness factor,so most men will have to either tune it out or accept that while their women might love them,they are not 'that guy' on the topic of black women and white men,i believe it's more than clear at this point. Black women can be and are often attracted to top notch white men but they aren't as attracted to the average white man as the average black man is to white women the black man is also the most(probably the only)sexually compatible with black women. and despite their complaints about the black men-him being lazy or unreliable-black women will still fuck and birth his children and will still stand by him in most social and political issues on the same note,here is an old comedy bit from Chris Rock on black women and white men (1:56) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOnyJYR9kWU

>>22685 Because the poor white man to ghetto slut ratio are way off like there will be one poor white man for every 30 ghetto slut so there’s nothing going on it’s just called white men not wanting to breed with trashy shit skins please stop being a retard and use your brain :)

>>22695 It’s the exact opposite Black women are attracted to even mediocre white guys White guys only date black women if they’re extremely top tier GO ASK black people about this and they will admit it

>>22694 No this isn’t what matters lol If this was the case bodybuilder manlets would be the most desired men in history Women either want pretty boys like (Timothee Chalamet, Chris Brown, etc.), bad boys, or powerful (successful/high status) men — Ideally a combination of these

>>22694 I never assumed any of that Look man there is no secret thing getting white women pussy wet for mediocre black guys lol Sure if they’re 6’4 and handsome then women of all races will like them, not because they are black Go ask black men and see if they think white men have it easier in dating GO ASK THEM YOURSELF

>>22705 wait, is it higher because they're too stupid to use condoms or because they fuck a lot?

>>22706 Pointing out a couple of anecdotes about two pretty boys that are popular is really the exception to the rule. The idea that they are preferred overall has been confirmed to be wrong in any study done on the subject. Roided bodies might be extreme, but generally, stronger being more attractive has been confirmed in multiple studies >Heterosexual male gym rats, rejoice! Women, when asked in a study to judge photos of men's bodies, rated the strongest men as the most attractive. Height and leanness were appealing attributes, too, but strength played an outsize role in the ratings of a man's torso, per a report published Tuesday in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B. >There was no nuance to these results, he said. Zero of the 160 women surveyed showed a statistical preference for weaker men. ZERO Preferred twinks. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/ Also, strength doesn't just mean muscles, it means a masculinized bone structure and face. And more masculine face also is more attractive to women than pretty ones as well. >While some women favoured feminised faces when assessing the photos of the men, almost all of them preferred those who they perceived to be physically strong as opposed to weak-looking. The results showed that the strongest men included in the image samples were also deemed the most attractive https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/women-stronger-men-attraction-looks-muscles-weak-study-dating-a8105976.html Go back and look at the studies at the beginning of the thread and see that black male faces were rated as both more masculine AND attractive by women. So clearly strength mogs prettyness. > powerful (successful/high status) men Napoleon was literally conquering Europe and his wife was cucking him and barely attracted to him at the same time. Please bring some actual fucking data, a study, an article, something that actually supports the shit you're saying in this thread or don't come back with your copes.

>>22713 You don’t even understand statistics or the methodology behind those studies dummy Explain me this if you’re so smart, what is a p value?

>>22713 You’re the one cherry-picking anecdotes from old books dumb fuck, you literally are just coping trying to say that overweight black guys are somehow gonna bang model looking white women just because they’re black It’s a fantasy, go out into real life and ask black men & women themselves :) Nobody cares if ghetto black men have kids with obese white women btw, so the birth rate of poor ugly undesirable people doesn’t matter GET IT?

>>22705 >GO ASK black people about this and they will admit it Meanwhile actual black people are talking about a "snowbunny crisis" https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snowbunny%20crisis

>>22871 >If it was race neutral it would be 13% Not necessarily because their immediate environment is not necessarily akin to average America all the time. It would be expected to be lower than 13% because their social circle is almost certainly much less than 13% black. It's still sufficient to say with confidence that they are probably not going out of their way to get knocked up by black men though, unless their de facto black exposure is below 3%

>>22805 No they aren’t not in real life lol Only on weird niche internet spaces You literally didn’t go out and ask you went to another internet source commonly used for trolling 😂

An essay on the Free negroes of North Carolina. The author had personal experience growing up there and recounts the large numbers of black male white female pairs in the area even during the antebellum era. https://archive.org/details/freenegroesofnor00dodg/page/28/mode/2up?view=theater

Another excerpt from Sex and Race. This is from anecdotes told by George Schuyler, a black American writer and journalist of the time. I usually like to post quotes that speak in general terms and about larger trends, but I feel like this anecdote he gives is really illustrative of the hidden nature of women's interest in black guys, both then and now.

>>23088 Maybe I don't understand the meaning of "low white women", but I'm pretty sure the author is saying that these women were of low quality. Again, maybe low is used differently in this context, but it's not impressive if the women look busted as hell.

>>23103 I doubt "low" would be used to mean ugly, it's much more likely to mean socioeconomic or even moral status.

>>23103 It means poor, landless, non slaveholding whites - the majority of whites in the old South, given that it was a very stratified society. Although the poor ones, were just the ones more likely to do it openly because they didn't have much face to lose. I've read a few quotes about how the wealthy class were just better a being secretive and making scandals and rumors disappear. I will look for those later.

>>23103 he's definitely not talking about their attractiveness. he's either saying they're not from wealthy well to do families, so they're just normal plebeians, or considering the rest of what he said, he might be like pic related it's completely possible that most of these women weren't attractive, but that's not the point he's making

>>20923 >She seems to see the superiority of the black man's body as an argument in and of itself against white civilization white men could invent anything, achieve anything, but they will never be in their sexual fantasies. all of white history was trying to overcome the fact that their women's pussies got wetter upon seeing black skin and features than their own. that was primary drive behind white civilization. but it simply isnt enough. they will never stop drooling over bbc, ever. basically white mans existence is just one big cope and prolonging the inevitable. all other races have the potential to be overrun by this plague, but they dont have the guilt.

>>23105 Most likely what he was talking about. Low whites were basically working alongside and interacting with blacks on the daily. Only the rich whites didn't have to interact with them constantly.

>>18688 >that attest to black sexual and physical prowess as a general phenomenon All the studies prove the contrary, you will kill your fetish by doing so (if you're into BNWO that said) Black men are the most virgin race in the United States and suffer from the biggest rejection rates, the data is not from ok cupid in 2003 but from 2023 and there's even Universities that corroborates that data I kinda predicted this a few years ago, blacks are suffering the most from interracial porn because their average penis is smaller than white males I'm neither black nor white so I'm the only one winning

>>21118 African and Caribbean countries don't even get the 1% of female tourism that Med countries get The biggest redpill that you withoids should swallow is that Meds are fucking your women at a 100000x rate than blacks are, but since you feel "superior" to blacks you stay quiet and act like it's not happening, because Meds are too "similar" to you for every tiktok praising blacks, there's 100 ones for just one Med country, for every average looking girl fucking blacks there's 100 top models from Scandinavia passed around by Giacomos and Martinis in America, Hispanics are fucking x5 times more white women than blacks, but again, you feel "superior" to blacks so you get off the humiliation "I'm lower than a black to these girls" so you don't care about the rest long story short, your women are getting fucked by others, that is correct, but it's not just blacks, because blacks are a minority when it comes to fucking white women and you should be mad at your southern brothers who are pumping them full of cum every summer

>>23233 No worries, I enjoy white women getting fucked by all kinds of shitskins, if someone were to make content that emphasizes this I can work with it

>>23232 Except for the fact that you're just completely making shit up or repeating what you heard other copers say and chose to believe with double checking Black men according to studies: less likely to be virgins than white men, in two separate studies here: https://contexts.org/blog/sexual-attitudes-among-college-students-similarities-between-white-black-latinx-and-asian-students/ and here: https://pismin.com/10.2307/3812310 Have more hookups in college than any other race, have more sex outside of relationships than any other race, any have the most sexual partners of any race by a large margin. Also lose their virginity on average 3 years earlier than white boys. About this weird great Med hope you have, let's consider some context. They get more tourism. No shit, because they are easier to travel to for Europeans, less legal headache, have more things to do and see than lying on the beach, and you can explore outside a small resort area without worrying about getting robbed. You think those aren't bigger factor's than pure sex appeal? Also, meds are better integrated, more culturally compatible and woman are not mate guarded from them the way blacks and white are. That is partly because unlike you're weird distinction between them and other Europeans they are already considered white, and people consider these couples wmwf. And contrary to popular narrative, they were always considered so by most people outside of a handful of Nordicist sperg theorists. You come into this thread like you're some kind of authority who's here to set things straight, but you have nothing but pure butthurt and emotion to argue against it.

>>23291 Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Look in the mirror, you moron. You want to talk about cope you are what you accuse him of and you don't even see it. Biggest hypocrite!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0262-5 This study is not race specific, yet the nature of the subject matter says a lot about the kind of black/white sexual relations that have been talked about before. According to this study, girls prefer violent boys as short term sexual partners when they are at their peak in fertility, and prefer less violent ones as long term relationship partners when they are off peak. And of course, the favourite fact of race realists is how much more violent and aggressive black men are. And I agree with that fact as well. But the problem is that they actually cite these facts to women thinking they are going to be a deterrent to women when in fact the effect is the opposite of that. Since so many of them are also adherents to evo psych redpills and what not, you'd think they would put two and two together, and realize what they are saying doesn't make sense, but when it comes to coping with bbc, it seems all previous dogmas get thrown out the window. It also speaks to the absence of interracial dating and marriage stats compared to the prevalence of interracial sex seen in society. It's pretty natural to assume that a lot of these girls are having short term sexual relationships with aggressive and high t black guys and then dating nicer and less violent white guys.

>>23291 >whitoid sperging Here are the REAL data, from 2023, pic rel, not something from 2008 when Blacks weren't addicted to NBA, CoD, and interracial porn that prevented them for approaching their own women Here's more studies: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ >47% of Black adults report being single, higher than the share among other racial and ethnic groups. https://mashable.com/article/racism-online-dating >Asian, Latina, and white straight women all refuse messages from Black men -2021 https://www.ucpress.edu/blog/54733/dating-while-black-online-but-invisible/ >Black men and women daters were particularly discriminated compared to other minority daters. White straight women are twice as likely to respond to White men compared to Black men. -2022 https://www.inverse.com/culture/36379-tinder-black-women-asian-men-racism >“Black and Latin men faced ‘similar discrimination,’ while white men had ratings “most high among women of all races.” https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2021/07/no-blacks-no-asians-no-indians-sexual-racism-on-new-zealand-s-dating-scene-and-how-apps-are-making-it-worse.amp.html >For ethnic minority men in western countries, it usually manifests itself in feeling undesirable - and Asian men are among the worst-affected. https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/21/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet/ >Meeting online has become the most popular way U.S. couples connect, Stanford sociologist finds https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/college-aged-adults-are-now-the-most-likely-online-daters/462384/ >College-Aged Adults Are Now the Most Likely Online Daters >About 99% of the 550 young sexual minority Black men who participated in a recent survey reported encountering racialized sexual discrimination while searching for intimate partners online. RSD, also called sexual racism, often manifests as website users expressing preferences for partners of certain races, ethnicities, physical attributes or stereotypical behaviors in their profiles. Accordingly, men of color say that other users often ignore their messages, reject them because of their race or ethnicity and engage in hate speech such as racial slurs. https://news.illinois.edu/view/6367/884300641 >Racist objectification on dating apps harms the mental health of the young Black men who use those apps, according to research from the University of Illinois I don't know why you whitoids can't enjoy this fetish normally like others people do, people fuck, get over it, you always have to go the extreme route and make this all about yourself while ignoring facts, he is 1000% right, the average spic is going to get laid x100 more than the average nigger, the average med is going to get laid x10000 more, but you don't care about that at all because it's the nigger who gets you off "because he's an animal" it's also the nigger who records everything he does, but don't worry, everyone but you is fucking your women, but it's not niggers doing it, those are the minority of minorities, think of poopjeets because they're rejected as much as of 2023 >About this weird great Med hope you have I don't care about any of you, see, you are mentally ill cumskins who just think the entire world revolves around them, your women go en masse to their countries to get fucked, entire girl groups go there every summer, even bachelor parties, stop the cope my guy, they go to Erasmus only in these countries, what for? Can you guess? Why they don't go to cheap nigger islands or do Erasmus in America or even France? Why all the maps of the most attractive males are always pointing out at Italy with a 90% rate? By the way that's why cumskins hate each other so much, you just envy them for being much more attractive than the rest of you while also being as historically relevant as you kek, so you call them all sorts of names but they're busy fucking your women in real life rather than reading you and I can assure you that the Italians who visit 4 or 8chan are both the incels type like you Whitoids literally wish they were some Jamal dindu still virgin at 24 who plays NBA2k and smokes weed all day after a 4h of gooning session to IR porn, meanwhile here I am wishing I was some fully tatted Buitoni with a dark tan in some touristic shithole

>>23461 were answers about their own country excluded in that last pic? Like, no country in Europe thought their own men were the most attractive?

>>23291 >Black men according to studies: less likely to be virgins than white men, in two separate studies here: https://contexts.org/blog/sexual-attitudes-among-college-students-similarities-between-white-black-latinx-and-asian-students/ and here: https://pismin.com/10.2307/3812310 >Have more hookups in college than any other race, have more sex outside of relationships than any other race, any have the most sexual partners of any race by a large margin. >Also lose their virginity on average 3 years earlier than white boys. Who says they arent mostly fucking black women tho? Since black women also have low inhibition just like them.

>>23461 >47% of Black adults report being single, higher than the share among other racial and ethnic groups. That's out of choice, not because they aren't able to get one. Black men are notorious for not committing to a relationship or settling down. Do you remember the stat that 97% odf white women with half black babies are single moms? Those women would have wanted those men to stay with them and have a relationship, but the black men would rather be free. Also refer back to the graphs I posted in that you're responding to. Black men have sex outside of relationships at a much higher rate than other men, so they don't feel the need to be in one. Finally look at what black women say about the subject. Here's a black woman from lipstick alley talking about how black men stay single so they can play the field. NOT because they're incels, lmao. I posted it above. >Whole bunch of dating app stats Like I've said many times, women are interested in black men for short term sex, not dating. This is reflected in how they choose men on dating apps. And before you bring up Tinder - contrary to what men online often assume, most women on Tinder are there with the goal to meet a man to date. There have been studies done on this. Refer to above. Only 5% of people on Tinder were there for casual hookups, which is the main thing where a woman would seek a black man. Women were even less likely to use it for that then men. Most people aren't even there with the intention of meeting someone IRL it seems, just popularity and ego boost https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/close-encounters/201706/is-tinder-really-hookup-app Another article >However, the researchers found that using Tinder to find love outweighed the motivation to use it for casual sex. Nevertheless, some respondents reported that Tinder leads to casual sex, with 18 percent reporting a one-night stand as the result of a Tinder match. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/love-digitally/201610/the-surprising-truth-about-why-people-use-tinder >Most attractive men map These countries are well known in popular consciousness in Europe and have been memed as such for a long time. They are attractive as well, but most people can't even name a black, or African country, nor do they have romantic memes about the places or the men there. It's a silly comparison. > the average spic is going to get laid x100 more than the average nigger, the average med is going to get laid x10000 more This is pure delusion. Spics get laid more? Yeah maybe because of them fucking their extended family members that live in the same house as them, but no woman goes out of their way to find a Mestizo manlet. Also, all the qualities you think make meds and Latinos more attractive than nordics are found in even greater degree and frequency in black men, yet you somehow think women are least attracted to them. Makes absolutely no sense intuitively. As for your weird resentment against whites, yet calling yourself med, I have to assume you're not Southern European, as they would not have this sense of anger and separateness from other Europeans, but some Levantine or Maghrebi brownoid who feels the need to overcompensate for your fragile ego by taking vicarious credit from Italians, Greeks. Your probably also butthurt that your women jump on bbc as soon as they land on European territory as they are famed to do. Which is another contradiction. If Meds are the top tier in desirability and blacks are at the bottom, then how come so many Med Beurettes prefer black men that it leads to damn near racial conflict between blacks and Maghrebis in France? >Paris is burning, and it's all Kim Kardashian's fault. OK, that's an overstatement, but the city's suburbs have been torn apart lately because of Arab French girls who happen to date black guys and the Arab French bigots who slut-shame them for doing so. >Since we are dealing with teenagers, the full extent of the issue is displayed on social media: Scrolling through Facemook—a sort of Facebook within Facebook, with more than 70,000 members—I stumbled upon countless offensive posts by groups with names such as "Anti beurette à khel" ("No to Arab girls dating black guys") and "Les beurettes utilisent l’Islam pour justifier leurs débauches" (Arab girls use Islam to justify their debauchery). https://www.vice.com/en/article/kwp78y/french-muslim-teenagers-facemook-kardashian Yeah, definitely sounds like these guys are 1000x more likely to get laid than blacks, lol.

>>23469 No because in that same study black women were less likely than white women or Latina to have ever had sex, had the least number of hookups, and less likely than either to have had sex outside of the relationship. So the opposite dynamic of their men. SO black men have to be making up the difference with other women. Also, another study here shows the difference between black women's willingness to have sex with white guys compared to white women's willingness to have sex with black men. Black women do not show low inhibition or high willingness to have sex with white men. > Over half of the white men report no intercourse associated with interracial dating. This "never" category shrinks to a mere nine per cent in the case of the blacks. https://sci-hub.yncjkj.com/10.2307/23027123 Posted above

>>18731 Source?

From Sex and Race vol. 2. White women back in the day using the cover of religion to flock to black preachers. Added the entire section for interesting context on how Christianity in American facilitated race mixing from it's early days.

>>23683 The Negro, a Menace to American Civilization

From Ten years on a Georgia Plantation by Frances Butler Leigh. She was a plantation mistress who wrote an account of her experiences after the war. She mentions travelling to England in 1870 with a black servant and how much the English maids preferred him to a white man. https://archive.org/details/tenyearsongeorgi01leig/page/190/mode/1up?view=theater

Here's something tangentially related to the topic of this thread that I've been wondering: is there any research or data on how to induce the BBC/BNWO fetish in white boys? As a /pol/lack who's been converted by BBC spam on /pol/ that's like the hottest thing for me.

>>23943 try bbc posting on the hr board good amount of cuck posting already the last i seen but mods might have started cleanings things up

>>23993 I'm sorry but this has already been posted in the thread. And this >>23994 >>23995 Is not a study or literary text that this thread is asking for. We're trying to keep the quality and discourse here above the level of the usual internet fetish crowd. Could someone delete these posts?

>>23996 >I'm sorry but this has already been posted in the thread. Didn't read the book myself, only came across that interesting snippet while browsing an antique books website.The link to that book in this thread also doesn't work so I wasn't aware it was from the same book. As for the other two my bad.

>Black Men The epitome of what a real men is: manly, strong, muscular and confident. All of them have been blessed with a +8in penis that they really know how to use it, incredible stamina , they can last hours and hours without losing their erection so any black man you choose don't worry I assure you'll be pleased. >Arab Men Average sized penis but what makes them stand out is their dominance over women, after all their lifestyle means subjugating women in their society so doing it in bed pice of cake for them isn't it?, just don't marry one and you'll be fine. >Indian The creators of the kamasutra so they must've something in them right? Yes it's true but what makes them a little unappealing is their poor hygiene. >Latino Tricky one 'cause latino is not a race but a mix of them, stick with dark skinned such as mulatto, their black ancestry gives them some perks of the black genetics. Avoid mestizo, amerindians or white latinos. >White Men Most of them are nice guys, good providers and give you social status, the kind of guy you'd take home to your parents. If you marry one just don't expect much from your sex life, divorce him and get a good deal and child support, or screw a black man on the side, the best of both. >East Asian The least masculine of all, small penis that almost resemble a clit. But the majority are kinky so a least foreplay will be fun, if you're getting penetrated get help from a dildo. Page 85 Translated from 2009 ‘’El Arte del Cuchiplancheo’’ by Penelope Menchaca. (‘’The Art of Get a Dicking’’)

Notes on Nationalism by George Orwell

>>24012 I found the book on internet archive, and there is nothing like that on the page cited, and any key word searches for those terms in Spanish turns up nothing. Someone probably made these quotes up. This is why I asked to post screencaps from the primary source and link to the text itself when possible. There are a bunch of juicy quotes that I've found over my searching that I would have liked to have added in this thread, but I chose not to because I couldn't verify them and didn't want to post possible fabrications. https://archive.org/details/elartedelcuchipl0000menc/page/84/mode/2up?view=theater

no studies about penis size posted? trying to convince my gf here

>>24032 The first post in the thread had stuff about penis size in the study. Didn't you look. Part of the reason the researchers did this study is because they found a lot of the previous ones too limited and unsatisfying in the way people went about them.

>>23461 >meanwhile here I am wishing I was some fully tatted Buitoni with a dark tan in some touristic shithole I was hanging out with some friends yesterday, including a few girls. The topic of what men they thought were attractive came up and it was as you said. 3 of them said Spanish, the other 2 Italian. The trashier ones wanted some muscular guy with tattoos, but they all wanted him to be (a little bit) tanned and have dark hair. Other races weren't even mentioned. I'm from Denmark for context.

>Franz Ignaz Pruner (8 March 1808 – 29 September 1882); known as Pruner Bey during his stay in Egypt, was a German physician, ophthalmologist and anthropologist who was a native of Pfreimd, Oberpfalz. >While in Egypt he was appointed by viceroy Mehmed Ali (1769-1849) as chair of anatomy and physiology at the medical school in Abuzabel, near Cairo. This institution had recently been established in 1825 by French physician Antoine Clot (1793-1868). In 1832 he returned to Europe and studied with Francesco Flarer (1791–1859) in Pavia. Soon afterwards he returned to Cairo as director of a military hospital. Subsequently, he served as a professor of ophthalmology as well as director of the hospital at Kasr al Aini. In 1839 he became a physician to Egyptian royalty, and was given the title of bey. In 1860 he returned to Europe, eventually settling in Paris, where he performed anthropological research In 1860 he gave a lecture on anthropological comparisons between Germans and Negros in which he mentions their large size. It's recorded in this book here https://archive.org/details/lecturesonmanhi00huntgoog/page/184/mode/2up?view=theater

>>24011 it's rather fascinating how white women seem to lack the 'civilized traits' that white men often project on them. left to their own devices,they rapidly deteriorate into the most trashy females you could imagine. their speech,their cloths,their behavior. it's like the ghetto is default mode.

>>23089 Adding on to this theme. a part from Navigating Interracial Borders by Erica Chito Childs - a book I'll be posting more from in the future. A quote that talks again about how hidden yet ubiquitous at the same time BMWF relations may be. There is really no way of knowing how many white women share this type of anecdote, but it seems to be more than most people would like to believe.

Slave owners in the past commented on how hung blacks were and their physiques. From https://sci-hub.se/https://muse.jhu.edu/article/448992

>>24450 More from Navigating Interracial Borders. These parts discussing relationships on college campuses. Image 1 mentions how there were few actual relationships, but more hookups, which is something often reiterated about bmwf relations. Image 2 is interesting because it attests to something frequently mentioned, which is how secretive these relationships are, and hidden from white people's view, yet black people are more aware of them going on. Images 3 and 4 are eye opening in regard to how thirsty white women seem to be for black men in this context in ways white people never really see. In these bmwf relationships, it seems like the usual idea that men are the ones that simp is completely reversed and women do whatever to get bbc. Also how these relationships are mostly based around sex yet these women are fine with that fact. Keep in mind this book was published in 2005, so I don't know the way things have changed in that time.

>>25052 > mentions how there were few actual relationships, but more hookups, which is something often reiterated about bmwf relations. white men often use this as an 'argument' against IR,claiming it's a proof white women aren't actually attracted to blacks. the question is,is white women giving their best years to niggers and then settling for less attractive white provider types really the victory they think it is? > attests to something frequently mentioned, which is how secretive these relationships are, and hidden from white people's view, yet black people are more aware of them this seems to have always been the case. even back in plantation times,the slaves-men and women-would often actively conceal the relations between black slaves and white women,often mistresses,to protect their own. perhaps in modern times,it translates to a desire to score victories against the 'opposing camp'. > eye opening in regard to how thirsty white women seem to be for black men you can also take note of this in how white women are always the ones pursuing,the ones qualifying,and the ones 'leaning in' rather than the reverse often observed with white men where you can see them mate guarding the women. >so I don't know the way things have changed in that time. > Also how these relationships are mostly based around sex yet these women are fine with that fact. this might have been a revolutionary statement in 2005,but it's mostly accepted as fact in red pill circles now.it's just not viewed from a racial lens to avoid conflict and unsavory discussions. there's no need to speculate when you consider the relaxing of shackles around IR relationships,social media,dating apps,the escalating popularity of IR and cuckold porn...ect

Middle aged black women reported greater sexual satisfaction than white women. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1557393/

>>25218 well,there must be a reason why black women continue to stand by black men in all issues despite continuously criticizing them and berating them for being inadequate husbands,fathers,and providers

>>23461 >Which COUNTRY has the most attractive men tf do you expect them to answer? Zanzibar? People say "black men" i.e. sub-saharan african men, that's a ton of different countries. of course that's not going to be represented. And yes, at the end of the day, most women prefer to date within their own race, but if even 30% of WW prefer black men that's still millions and millions of white wives and daughters getting BLACKED across the world. Cope.

How does it feel that both penis size statistics AND IQ statistics are true? It's like we got evolutionarily defeated by a stronger, more violent race.

>>25256 I don't really care about the "racial superiority" angle. I just think bmwf is hot, and it's exciting that their dicks (seem to?) tend to be bigger. Like no one would deny jews have bigger noses or asians have slanted eyes, I don't know why people cope so hard about black guys having bigger dicks, lol. Just enjoy it, I say.

>>25259 they're dumb and violent but still superior because of their bodies

>>25259 don't know why people cope so much. At the same time imagine if there was a true working technology to increase penis size. It would be over for this fetish and black men basically overnight.

>>25259 On average black cocks are obviously bigger. Stereotypes are basically all true but us white guys like to cope when it comes to BBC

>>25268 I don't think this is true. BBC cuckolding would still be desired. It isn't just the size of black cocks but the way black men fuck too. They seem to last longer, have a better stroke game etc. they just know how to fuck our women. They are built for sex. Also the color contrast is hot too. Every other white guy I have talked to this stuff about has agreed that we like seeing darker black guys fuck our women not light-skinned/mixed guys etc. Darker skin is coded as more masculine. The combination of African masculinity and white femininity is sexual dynamite. No wonder us white men love it. Bigger, better, blacker is what our women deserve

>>25287 the way white losers are going exctinct by pure biomass of imported lazy retarded thugs with massive cocks is so poetic and grotesque. your people will be bent beyond recognition and humiliated shoving their faces into unwashed african assholes, cumming handsfree while watching beatdowns, witness their culture and history get blackwashed and be unable to speak or express themselves JUST because you have a small dick. think about that for a moment. nature is punishing you for having a small dick. black men are gods.

>>25288 the seethe is both hilarious and hot, i need to get bred by a drug dealer and walk around paris as the only cute whiteboi in a sea of virile kings with 8 children per family

This isn't the thread for BNWO goonposting. Let's keep discussion intellectual and tethered to the non fiction content and studies posted in the thread.

>>22544 this is quite possibly the most jarring one here, the fact that my gf could have a higher chance of getting pregnant with a black man over me due to genetic differences is pretty insane. I guess it's superior sperm count and penis.

>>24360 Its fairly obvious that women are subhuman. I truly believe that even a group of black men would create a better civilization than any race of women. In fact, I believe women are the cause of men and civilization degrading. This fetish I think has way too many guys who worship women, hence why there is shit like "she choose him over you". No shit, a dog chooses to shit on a rug versus going outside without proper training.

>>18757 from the second volume of the same book: 37] Rev. J.H. Weeks, _Journal Anthropological Institute_, 1909, p. 449. I am informed by a medical correspondent in the United States that inversion is extremely prevalent among American negroes. "I have good reason to believe," he writes, "that it is far more prevalent among them than among the white people of any nation. If inversion is to be regarded as a penalty of 'civilization' this is remarkable. Perhaps, however, the Negro, _relatively to his capacity_, is more highly civilized than we are; at any rate his civilization has been thrust upon him, and not acquired through the long throes of evolution. Colored inverts desire white men as a rule, but are not averse to men of their own race. I believe that 10 per cent, of Negroes in the United States are sexually inverted."

Interesting stuff about strength I had never seen before. I often heard from white guys that blacks were faster but whites were stronger, but it looks like that isn't true under further examination. One study show that blacks, when adjusted for income, have more grip strength than whites. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5072478/#:~:text=In%20adjusted%20models%2C%20African%20American,28.3kg%3B%20P%3C. And another shows that black police recruits began with much higher bench presses than whites, and ended with higher ones as well even after training. https://digitalcommons.wku.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1604&context=ijes

>>26343 this is amazing are there any specific research tools that you use to target these kinds of finding?

>>26343 And yet the o lympics don't seem to reflect it. Seems odd.

>>26346 Could be a bunch of reasons for that, for example, whites could have more outliers while blax are stronger on average. If you look at world records throughout the years for various strength exercises (squat, deadlift, benchpress), you will find some blacks in there, though it's mostly white. The current raw benchpress record is held by a Julius Maddox. Ray Orlando Williams held the heaviest squat for a while. Mark Henry held the deadlift record for a bit.

does anyone know the name of this painting i once found on some right wing blog,but has since almost disappeared entirely it depicts a black man playing the clarinet (i think it(s a clarinet) while sitting on the broken head of a Greek statue (i guess it's supposed to represent the west) while a naked white woman dance to the music

>>26360 the greek statue might have also been a broken column as well,i'm not sure

>>26353 >>26346 Most likely blacks simply aren't interested in it when there are other more exciting higher profile sports they can be apart of instead. It's like tennis. They are no black male tennis champions, but that's mostly because there's hardly any black men into tennis. But when a black woman like Serena Williams shows up in the sport she dominated - and you would expect a black guy who took it seriously to do the same.

I'm glad I collected as many of these screenshots as I did before Internet Archive went down. But it's going to be hard to find any new material though.

>>26364 That goes both ways though. Why would white men, who can just get a well paying job and a wife, go into combat sports or athletic pursuits that statistically don't pay off just to get brain damage at the ripe old age of 21?

I've been thinking about sexual dynamics lately, and I get the sense that white and chink guys reason themselves out of getting pussy. They assume they must be seeing something that's not there, that it's inappropriate to approach a girl or that they need to respect women or whatever. Meanwhile other brown people, blacks, arabs, pajeets and spics immediately jump on the opportunity when they are presented with pussy, even to the point of raping women. This is probably partially genetic, with white people have better inhibition, but it's also exacerbated by social factors like the MeToo stuff.

>>27332 Blacks lack the social anxeity that comes from the tendency to overthink and overanalyse. the same traits that whites pride themselves in being 'unique' in are actually what's curbing their reproductive and sexual strategy

>>27344 They don't just lack the social anxiety, they straight up lack the intelligence in a lot of instances. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of blacks have afantasia and their thoughts and actions are the same thing. And it really does curb your reproductive success for sure. Even within race, having a high IQ will make you more likely to be a virgin.

>>27345 essentially yes. blacks will spot ten hot girls. Approch 8,get shut down by 4 and get to fuck 2. a white guy would overthink asking one. in some cases he will score,in others he won't an asian guy,unless really good looking or well-off,would completly avoid approching women outside his race all together

>>27349 Yeah, white guy will try, possibly get rejected and then wait years before trying again. There's low IQ white guys who just don't care, talking about averages here ofc. I think Asian guys are extremely passive, doubt they'd approach even their own girls, unless they're friends or it's on a dating app or something. People overstate looks sometimes, the fact that a lot of guys are extremely passive and just dont approach girls is a big part of why they're virgins.

>>27350 This is absolutely the truth. Speaking from experience here. Black and some Hispanic guys are just more aggressive about letting women know what they want and eventually it works. White guys try once and give up.

>>27351 Yeah, sad state of affairs. I think that's why stuff like MeToo is bad, makes white men hyper aware of the potential risks and makes them feel discouraged from even trying. Ironically sometimes women will complain about "men" catcalling and it's blacks or jeets doing it lol

>>27345 >>27344 I have to admit there's nothing hotter than a hung guy with low intelligence and impulsive behaviour

>>27637 OP here. Reread the first post. I said high quality literature and content here, not low brow twitter goon posting with tiktok videos as your source.

>>27640 >OP here i doubt it,since op hasn't been posting anything for a while,only for 'you' to appear right after i made my post. Convenient as for your complaint.I haven't seen you police any previous porn,or irrelevant post.I'm not sure how much what i posted ruffled your feathers,but for the sake of this thread,i hope you keep your policing to yourself,before i flood this thread with the shittiest tiktoks you've ever seen

>>27648 I am the OP. I just haven't posted anyhting for a while because I am too busy reading other subjects tight now to focus on finding this kind of stuff. And I have policed posts before like here >>24015 when someone was posting made up content. I try to keep the standards high here because everywhere else is infested with the same kind of homogenous internet crap.

>>27649 Is that a joke? This thread is homogenous internet crap. The fact that black men / white female couples ARE outbred by the most uneducated white men / white female couples hints at what's actually going on. The numerous 1900s and older material that's being selectively quoted too is hilarious. The Indians and Mexicans in this thread who think they are Black/Spanish/Greek lol. The shitskins in this thread unironically complaining about racism when they spend their whole day looking for crap to selectively quote to make themselves feel better about their inadequacy. Almost 90% of the comments here are fetish roleplaying by forever online shitskins under the guise of "speaking from experience". What's most jarring are the studies that seem to completely conflict with objective reality. Like the grip strength study. This casts everything else into doubt. It's not hard to understand though. If you had a grudge against brushing teeth you could post every single study against brushing teeth... That's basically what you guys are doing.

>>27919 This 100% Too many cum guzzling cucks and low iq racist blacks on here spreading absolute trash.

>>27919 >>27926 Stage 1. Denial. Coping crackers. Stage 5. Acceptance. Crackers realizing the truth of the superiority of the BBC from the countless studies researched thoroughly and submitted by white intellects. By denying the power of BBC they deny the achievements of white intellects. Truly the dilemma of a coping crackercel in denial.

>>19494 >Black men have much higher levels of testosterone than white males. Whites from babies to teens according to your source have far more testosterone than blacks which I suspect is responsible for the higher incidence of homosexuality amongst blacks and thus the out of control aids epidemic in Africa. https://lgbtfunders.org/resources/issues/people-of-color/ Many studies have come to the conclusion that prenatal and early postnatal testosterone is a significant contributor to the resulting adult sexual orientation. Testosterone is a developmental hormone switch... That paper you cited is claiming that the more rapid change in testosterone levels in black men could explain their higher chances of developing prostate cancer... It wasn't coming to any other conclusion. This study claims that It's actually Mexicans that have a higher serum testosterone and that blacks and Mexicans have higher serum Estrogen than whites. That being another theory for higher Prostate cancer rates in blacks compared to whites. https://sci-hub.ru/10.1210/jc.2007-0028 "Serum Estrogen, But Not Testosterone, Levels Differ between Black and White Men in a Nationally Representative Sample of Americans"

>>27947 You're a homosexual autistic shitskin virgin addicted to cuck porn. Join your community - https://lgbtfunders.org/resources/issues/people-of-color/

From the book Taboo Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports and Why We Are Afraid to Talk About It By Jon Entine. Nothing ground-breaking, just more confirmation on black athletic ability that people generally know about.

>>20333 I've tried Tyronefishing and unfortunately they I got much less matches than when Chadfishing. The matches I did get were typically either full blown mudsharks or random girls that wanted to flirt with a black guy out of curiosity, but I'd say the ratio would be like 1:20 for the white Chad profiles I've used.

>>25288 Overall their stroke game isn't that good, maybe some have good stroke game, but for the most part the average street BBC tend to just grab and drill as hard as they can until they bust. That's not necessarily a bad thing though. Maybe experienced bulls that are used to servicing white wives have better stroke game though.

>>28261 The conversation in this thread is supposed to centre around literature or research studies. Stop having a casual opinion based discussion please.