I've seized your mother's means of reproduction

>>2635
>seizing means of production
You can tell yourself that all you want but jerking off still isn't going to get you anywhere.

I thought posting gay porn here was banned

>means of productions
No such thing, only private property.

And then what?
You wouldn't actually benefit individually. It's not like you would be able to work less or receive more goods.
You wouldn't even be able to manage the means of production as everyone else already owns it. You would get a simple vote. That's it.

You people are retarded, I swear.

Freedom is the absence of government. Law and order in a free country means that you'll go to jail for theft or murder. Law and order in a police state means that everything is illegal and the government controls you. American soldiers died fighting Nazis and Commies. Now Americans have become Nazis and Commies. Nazis and Commies think that they only possible solution to any problem is force, but Libertarians think problems can be fixed by persuasion. Nazis and Commies think anyone who insults their dictator must be executed, but Libertarians ask what's wrong with free speech? Nazis and Commies lose their minds when someone wears saggy pants, but if there is no victim, there's no crime. Nazis scream solar panels must be illegal and Commies say solar panels must be mandatory. Nazis say going to church must be mandatory and Commies say churches must be closed. Libertarians say live and let live.

>>4702 This is mostly correct, you are missing one key component of freedom which is INDIVIDUALISM Collectivism is what brings tyranny. The words "Good of the many" is what tyrants are born from. Wrongdoings can be committed only against individuals, not against groups. You cannot wrong a country as a group, you can wrong them as a collection of individuals. It is the individual people that suffer, not some generalised group. Individualism is the basis of liberty and property is the basis of individualism. You cannot consider yourself as an individual if you do not own yourself. Communism, National Socialism, Fascism and any leftist philosophy is CANCEROUS because it is collectivist. It believes that people should work for any other goal than their own, it operates on fear and primitive instinct, while also trying to surpress it. It comes from lack of understanding as yourself and inability to see oneself as anything else than a part of a group. It comes from narcissism and psychological turmoil, from fear against reality and a refusal to say "yes" to life. It comes from a refusal to accept oneself as the one creator of meaning. In short, all collectivism comes from misery and a refusal to try and improve your own life, a hatred towards life and a romantic idea of trying to create a perfect world instead of accepting it as it is and working with it to improve it. It is childishness in its highest form.

Good point. Maybe the real reason the economy has collapsed is because the government has placed everyone under house arrest.