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>Are you REALLY sure it's just "better memes/better branding?"
Yes, I REALLY am super-duper sure about everything I say, unless I state otherwise, however... that's not what I said. It's not "just" better memes/branding. It's never "just" anything in life, "just" is a really subtle word, but when people like you insert it in your "so you're saying that..." sentences, it changes the whole meaning of what I'm supposed to be arguing about. Don't try to manipulate me with that shit, I'm not the nigsocs you're used to arguing with.
>If this is the case
Regardless if it's the case...
>you would then have to agree than 2008 was a renaissance of libertarians because they had better/more memes
I don't have to agree with jack shit, I don't know everything, and I don't know why 2008 was the most based and redpilled year in the history of mankind. But if you asked me if memes played a significant part in it, I would say absolutely fucking yes.
>I'm also still not satisfied with your response
I can't fit a whole science into a short, convenient response, you either research this shit and you're already on the same page, or you're not. We're not "just" talking about bald friends and pepe frogs here, we're talking about the very nature of ideas. Back in 2008, the internet was still in pre-modern times, it wasn't us having good memes, or more specifically - good methods of spreading ideas, it was everyone else having it equally shitty as us, we were all confined to being literal or ironic until more advanced forms of memery were discovered. 2008 memes were fucking primitive, you'd be ashamed to post them now, it was equivalent to cave paintings, even just recently I posted a few of those shitty memes in the content thread and an anon rightfully shamed me for it, those memes are considered lame and "facebook-tier" today in comparison to more advanced forms of irony, but they served their purpose on the market of ideas back then when we fought the enemy on more/less equal grounds.
By now, the meme war has changed, our enemies exist on an entirely different plane of existence, literally everyone on the internet besides normalfags posts on no less than 3 layers of irony while we're still posting on 0 or 1, being totally literal or ironic at best. We should consider ourselves blessed, the internet has killed post-modernism, especially in places where the free market of ideas are strongest (imageboards), but we're not using this miracle to our advantage - the neetsocs and leftists are. I don't know if we're ashamed to be unserious or something, God forbid we embarrass ourselves in front of strangers on the internet, but unless we master the art and science of post-irony, we're NOT going to fucking achieve ANYTHING, neither on the internet with dank maymays, nor in irl arguments and discussions. Seriousness does have it's place, that's what post-irony is about, it's about bringing seriousness back into world where truth doesn't matter anymore, but if we're always serious by default, we're going to continue being cringed at for lecturing people with boring dad talk, boring boomer memes, and a boring-sounding ideology that doesn't seem relevant to people with today's problems.