>>4489 >But this is supposed to be the "bad" windows release right? 10 stuck so this one has to suck according to the prophecy. Depends if you count Win 8.1 as a separate release or not. It fixed a lot of Win 8's mistakes (starting with the start menu) just like how Win 7 fixed Vista's mistakes. Win 11 could be the "good" OS that fixes Win 10's retardation according to the "prophecy". >I hope they continue gutting their established UX and thus giving people less reasons to care about a product that basically feels less and less like the one they're used to, lowering the entry barrier of adopting a different one The old programs and interfaces aren't going anywhere. Just look at these screenshots. >the screensaver settings still has the same design it has had since XP, CTR monitor included >the installer introduced with Vista is still being used and has the same Win 7 theme used since Win 8 >the control panel they have been trying to kill for years got new icons >the computer management tool still has the same design and icons it had on Windows 9X >the remote desktop client that was added fuck knows how long ago still has Vista/7 icons and UI

>>4498 But that's not all! >the sound settings tool still has it's Win95 looks, icon included >all the programs that MS hasn't been able to remove or update were moved to a containment folder that only makes more obvious how they have failed multiple times to make things consistent (just look at that mix of XP, Vista, 7, 8 and 10 icons) >the explorer still uses the "ribbon" bar introduced with Vista (also still no tabs) But hey, at least MS is preinstalling more third party apps as UWP, gotta shove their latest attempt at updating the OS somewhere.

>>4501 >binbows watch https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yDzAAjzbV5g[Embed]

>>4480 >I really don't see how people will move from 10 to 11 A lot of my friends begrudgingly moved after they saw more and more newer video games drop support for Windows 7. After a while, the few that has a lot of disposable income and is stupid enough to drink Apple's kool-aid bought macbooks. The rest started asking if I can help them with Linux. They've turned their PC into Steam machines. If Microsoft hopes Windows 11 is going to be their savior like Windows 7, but it still came with the same spyware bullshit, the only data they will harvest out of their OS will be AAA vidya related.

>>4499 I notice the window corners are square in these screenshots rather than the rounded corners we've seen so far. So is that customizable out of the box? Also, is the classic Win32 Paint (mspaint.exe) still present or they turned it into UWP only? I remember recently reading some news about MS moving Paint to UWP.

>but it still came with the same spyware bullshit I think it's pretty safe to say that by now the spyware bullshit is more about helping spooks than it is about corporate control freaks, so the built in spyware shit isn't going anywhere, ever. Even if Microshit wanted to fight them on this (which is a huge stretch of the imagination) they would have received a fancy "national security lol you have to do everything we command you" letter and would be forced at gun point to do it.

first tor browser on win11

OH MY FUCKING YAWN.....

>>4517 I don't know why they can't just bring back the Windows Classic / Server 2003 theme.

>>4517 So, can window corners be configured to be squared or round, or is the round corners feature broken?

>>4527 Microsoft is never going back. It was hilarious when windows 10 was announced to bring back the start menu and everyone started furiously masturbating like apes "uu uu me can finally use computer!". They DO NOT care about you they HATE you, they DESPISE all their users and they will try to destroy you and defeat you at every turn, this is something one must understand. Considering how even many above average users seem to be unable to disable a lot of windows 10's nonsense. I'd say microsoft has already won, they have defeated their users, fucking owned them, windows users got check mated by microsoft so fucking hard they don't even fight anymore, get fucking pulverised idiots, so utterly destroyed and now Microsoft will do a victory lap with their new OS HAHA, NEW!? WHAT, MICROSOFT you replacing windows 10 budy? HUUUUUUUUUUH!? NANI DESUKAAAA UwU~? Surley not, as we all know like you said, windows 10 is NEVER being replaced, it's simply going to be updated forever, we all know this, in the year 2576 Microsoft is still going to be on top with windows 10. and I'm glad windows 11 is coming out, the buttons are nice and big and I can see myself touching all the nice social media icons with my big fat greasy fingers because touch screens are awesome, and if you don't have a touch screen uhhhhh uuu um bit embarrassing uhhh uuu YIKES umm uhhh maybe get a job idk hehe YIKES wow. YES I will buy another surface pad pro microsoft thank you, although it's weird because my surface pro function keys no longer work after windows 10 updated itself without my consent, that's weird because they're both microsoft products and windows 10 was designed for the surface so it's strange that an update broke it, but it's my fault and I'm a baby who wears diapers. I don't fucking want customisation FUCK OFF I want WINDOWS DEFAULT in my fucking asshole all day, retards. I want to select my OS' "accent colour" that's all I FUCKING need you fucking mongoloids. I like PURPLE and then some of the windows have a strip of purple in them, YOU DON"T EVEN KNOW. I want foggy glass transparency right fucking nooooow. BRIGHT SIMPLISTIC WHITE AND BLACK CONTRACT THAT CURES MY EYES OF SINS, you don't know nothing, FUCKING dumbass. If you don't have a microsoft account YOU are the fucking problem.

>>4537 >Considering how even many above average users seem to be unable to disable a lot of windows 10's nonsense How can you permanently disable something that constantly keeps reseting itself to the default configuration on a weekly basis? <Muh LTSC While that does solve the privacy and updates issue, that doesn't resolve the broader issues with Windows 10 that initially left a bad taste in people's mouths.

>>4538 That's right you can't do nothing, windows users got fucking outplayed by Microsoft, they're not even on the same plane anymore, this is your punishment for complaining about 8, all Microshit wanted to do was make a sharp stylish new tablet interface for the world and you mocked them, now you will suffer. Anyone who thought Microsoft lacked talent got shut up when windows 10 came out, never before has such ingenuous auto update spyware been programmed by a team of elite office coders. Now with Windows 11 you will see their true power.

Someone did a benchmark with this leak and for some reason MOTHER FUCKING TEAM FORTRESS 2 had a minimum fps increase of 100. what do you think may be responsible for this? tf2 is historically a very cpu and filesystem tied game so i'm wondering if they changed one of the following: 1) cpu scheduler (doubtful, NT would probably shit itself if this changed) 2) filesystem (doubtful microshit is perminately attached to ntfs) 3) pre-caching (possible) or 4) compositing (i doubt it'd be responsible for a 100fps increase on a exe compiled for winXP but it might, you never know.) every other game benchmarked didn't have nearly as much of a fps increase as tf2 did, and i'd reckon most would run the same on win10 if you just disabled some of the bloat of win10 (I.E use windows AME or just fucking install linux).

kk

whats with the ugly plasma rice

>>4537 The Windows 10 "start menu" is just the Windows 8 start screen in a vertical list form. It was ridiculous how the drones drooled over it and worse, they think it's actually a good start menu, when it's exactly the same fucking start screen they bashed so much on Windows 8 only on a different dressing. >>4550 I'd say it's probably the scheduler and better memory management (Since Windows Vista the memory management is so shit that even tiny third-party software made by only one person like ISLC can do a much better job at it). If W11 indeed has better gaming performance all across the board and not only on TF2, even if only a 10% ~ 20% increase on average, it's a great thing. Because since a couple of years ago W10 is becoming a worse gaming OS with every new cumulative update, thanks to performance problems that have been piling up and the Windows incompetent street shitting devs that replaced all white devs can't fix. I think it'll be good enough if gaming performance just returns to W10 1809/1903 levels.

>>4550 I just went to check and there are already a few YT videos with gaming benchmarks and comparisons against W10. On most games W11 is giving 5% to 20% more average fps, depending on the game. However the 1% minimum fps remains the same or in some games slight worse.

So Microshlomo finally announced Windows 11 after an alpha build got leaked, and aside from the new half-assed redesign and increased system requirements novelties include a redesigned app store (with apparent support for android apps), Microsoft Teams preinstalled because fuck you, more GAYMER stuff like automatic HDR that looks like shit, and the widgets that nobody used in Windows Vista but that Applel is making trend again. Thoughts?

>>4599 >Thoughts? Who cares as long as it runs Steam and my gook cartoon games. I run things that matter to me on separate machines. Apps? Everyone in my country makes it for Jewgle-approved tracking devices. Programming? Go ahead and drink their newest kool-aid for the n-th time, see how you like it. WSL2? Why not program on a real UNIX box instead of Microsoft's bastardized version of it. If you have time to sperg about the latest stupid shit GTK or Qt pulled, go contribute to GNUStep. Shitposting? Get a separate Linux box for that. SBCs are cheap and powerful these days. The newest memeberry pi starts from 2GB of RAM, goes up to 8, enough to run multiple electron apps.

>>4599 Forgot to add, the Home edition will require an online connection and a Microshill account in order to finish the initial setup: https://archive.is/wip/mQYDd >Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use.

Who cares! I don't care about windows 10 forcing updates on me in such a weirdly super aggressive way, clearly there's no ulterior motives there, I mean I can just delay them anyways hehe... Oh who cares if I need a microsoft account in windows 11. hehe. Gosh you care? Who cares if I need to be always online in windows 12, you complain about everything. Who cares if I need a lifelong personal identification number to use windows 13. Just shut up already.

So, looks like Win11 won't work on CPUs older than 8th gen Intel (Coffee Lake) and Zen2. Fucking absurd. People are speculating that MS's excuse will be the relatively recent industry scam to accelerate obsolence of perfectly good old cpus - the unveiling of the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities.

Windows 11 removed or deprecated features: >Taskbar < The bottom position is the only location for the taskbar going forward. < Applications may no longer customize taskbar areas < People is removed. < Some icons may no longer appear in the System Tray. >Start Menu < Named groups and application folders are no longer supported. < Layout is not resizable, currently. < Live Tiles are no longer available. < Pinned apps and sites won't be migrated. >Tablet Mode is removed (new functionality is added for keyboard attach and detach postures) >Touch Keyboard won't dock or undock anymore on screen sizes 18 inches and larger. >Timeline feature is removed. >Wallet is removed. >Cortana is no longer included in the first boot experienced or pinned to the taskbar. >Desktop wallpapers are not synced anymore when using a Microsoft account. >Internet Explorer is disabled. IE Mode in Edge is available to fill the gap. >Math Input Panel is removed. Math Recognizer will install on demand. >News and Interests has evolved into Windows Widgets. >Quick Status removed from the lockscreen and from settings. >S Mode is exclusive to Windows 11 Home Edition. >Snipping Tool continues to be available but functionality has been replaced with the Snip & >Sketch tool functionality.3D Viewer, OneNote for Windows 10, Paint 3D and Skype won't be installed anymore on new systems. They remain available when systems are upgraded. Source: https://www.ghacks.net/2021/06/25/these-are-the-deprecated-and-removed-features-of-windows-11/ (https://archive.is/BEQI0)

>>4615 I don't know why so many people prefer the modern taskbar, taskbar was perfected in XP.

>>4614 Good, more cheap used hardware for me.

>>4615 >Desktop wallpapers are not synced anymore when using a Microsoft account. Why was this a feature anyone needed in the first place?

>>4614 Meltdown and Spectre weren't scams, they were a glowie op

>>4599 >Thoughts? Why didn't the video show anyone actually doing any work on their computers?

>satya nutella was elected to replace ballmer and faggots everywhere creamed themselves because "finally a modern leader" >because all he knows is phones, he treats everything like phones >first thing he dies is fuck over everything good about the interface, breaking with a long legacy of additive changes >live tiles because phones >test team eliminated, the consumer is the tester now >produces shit overpriced Surface hardware that is a loss leader and will never make money >produces windows store because windows is a phone now >starts push to make win32 apps legacy >telemetry out the ass >.NET team cut loose and free to do whatever they want, except now they're completely divorced from the OS roadmap and never shall the two come together again >office rewritten in javascript >office in the browser for some reason >everything needs an account online >emphasis on onedrive, something which no-one ever wanted >lync UH I MEAN TEAMS bafflingly now poised to replace skype because who the fuck knows, and because enterprise communication software is totally a good substitute for chat >half of his bad ideas have failed already, leaving a long trail of tech debt detritus to clean up I don't think microsoft could have walked into any more rakes then they did. The only thing they could have done worse, maybe, is fuck with the .NET team, who thankfully have pretty good judgement. We would have been so much better off with Ballmer in charge, in spite of the fact that he was a corporate 80's dinosaur.

>>4659 Might be, but they sure have been convenient for hardware manufacturers as well. Moore's Law is deprecated, nowadays 10 year old hardware is still perfectly fine for less demanding tasks. So hardware manufacturers needed to come up with something new to force consumers into upgrading sooner. I won't be surprised if new vulnerabilities that affect current gen and all previous gen chips start being "discovered" every few years. It's a good way to ease PC platform users into accepting the Android model where hardware becomes forcibly obsolete after 3 years.

>>4729 Normalniggers only creamed over Nutella because he is an H1B brown pajeet. Pajeets are probably the worst choice anyone could pick to run a large company - even a tranny nigger midget would probably be less damaging. Like all manlet pajeets in a position of power, Nadella is a megalomaniac who always wanted to turn Windows into "his" OS and Microsoft into "his" company. Like every pajeet, he is extremely stubborn and will never, ever admit to having made a mistake. If pajeets are in a sinking ship, they'd rather sink and drown with the ship, in case abandoning the ship would carry the implication that they've made a mistake. That's why they always stick with any bad decisions made regarding Windows 10's design even if there's backlash and no one likes it. Saying all of this from experience by the way. I have worked with and interacted daily with pajeets in an IT company that hired a few of them because they fell for the "indians are smart and good with tech" meme. >half of his bad ideas have failed already, leaving a long trail of tech debt detritus to clean up Well he's a street shitter, of course he leaves a trail of shit wherever he goes. You bet I miss Ballmer every day.

>>4729 All of this but it true, but you forgot to mention Microshafts market share increased by like a billion dollars last year.

>>4729 >starts push to make win32 apps legacy This has been happening from Ballmer's era. It's only recently that they quietly backed down, started giving more attention to their C++ compiler, and the Win32 documentation section of MSDN. >.NET team cut loose and free to do whatever they want, except now they're completely divorced from the OS roadmap and never shall the two come together again .NET can go suck a dick. >>4735 >You bet I miss Ballmer every day. At least he's too stupid to follow Google's business model.