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Tor Discussion Anonymous 06/15/2020 (Mon) 04:52:53 No. 449
So, what's so bad about Tor? >it's a honeypot Not really, I have done extensive research into this and the only people caught on it were dumb fucks who made OpSec mistakes. Plus, the only people championing this point are schizos who use VPN services or set up their own VPN, or even just use their plain ISP-given IP address, all of which are way riskier than using Tor. If you're concerned about onion links being honeypots, then set up your own. It's one of the easiest things in the world to do. >it's slow Fair enough. >a lot of sites block it Yeah, and a lot of sites are fags anyways, a lot of sites are also using ReCatapha and require phone verification and use Cloudflare or AWS. Sites have been against privacy for a long time and are banning VPNs too. >it's operated by sjws&trannies Literally everything is now, including VPN services and ISPs, there is no escape unless you want to fully disconnect from the internet and live in a cabin in the woods, which considering people are still using this site, I don't see happening. Also, the directors are known privacy-advocates. >firefox Firefox is rapidly becoming a shit browser for privacy, yes, Chromium is worse, "Ungoogled" Chromium is still Chrome garbage, same with Brave, alternative Firefox builds are usually outdated, and Opera is blatantly spyware. Meanwhile, Tor usually strips out all the tracking that Firefox tries to push in new releases. >relays and nodes operated by governments Which is more of a reason to get more people using Tor so more people can set up nodes and relays aside from government interference. Not opening this to start an argument or a bash on how bad Tor is or just to simply praise Tor, I want a discussion, because most points about Tor being bad for privacy are easily debunked and usually only used by schizos and I want to ensure my personal privacy.
>>6499 >If Tor worked it would be illegal. tor isnt a wetback
>>6499 >>6502 >If Tor worked it would be illegal. I disagree. There's lots of things that impede "law" enforcement that are still legal. Guns are the first thing that comes to mind here in the US. Other things are cash, precious metals, Privacy coins, encryption, and P2P programs.
>>6514 >still legal for now
how do I get the client to allow bw runs on built circuits I keep getting [code] 513 Unacceptable option value: TestingTorNetwork may only be configured in combination with a non-default set of DirAuthority or both of AlternateDirAuthority and AlternateBridgeAuthority configured. [\code] its already running a through socks so this message doesnt tell me shit
>>6514 But Tor doesn't impede law enforcement, or it wouldn't be legal. Guns are different because confiscating those door to door gets you killed, Tor not being an impediment just means they ignore you using it because it doesn't do anything but contribute to your hacker LARP lifestyle.
>>6539 >But Tor doesn't impede law enforcement, Well, the word impede means to make something more difficult, which then bears the question, more difficult than what? Also, the NSA and CIA are not law enforcement. When referring to law enforcement I am assuming that in order to gain information on a suspect that they will go to one of the big tech companies, either physically or remotely, and request all the information that they have for a certain IP or IP range. The company will usually hand this information over without objection. So how is getting this same information about a TOR user easier than that? Are you suggesting that the FBI has cracked the encryption and is harvesting data from a gateway node? If so, please post a link because I am genuinely interested.
>>6539 >Tor not being an impediment just means they ignore you using it because it doesn't do anything but contribute to your hacker LARP lifestyle. Never mind, I think I >>6542 misunderstood what you posted
>>6539 >Guns are different because confiscating those door to door gets you killed I believe most gun owners that bothered to register their firearm would also comply with a door to door gun grab. the only ones willing to shoot a cop would be niggers, drug dealers and other felon types. cops are more likely to be killed by their covid vaccine than by a registered gunowner
>>6551 >gun owners that bothered to register their firearm Which states have gun registration laws, besides for a CCW? California perhaps?
>>6551 Based niggers and felons.
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>>5109 >I don't know how much snowflake is helping with speed but I've seen sometimes around 2 megabytes/second now. Helpful with uploading ChaosEsque. snowflake got it taken off of moddb tho. Also snowflake likes elliptic curve crypto: which cannot be trusted.
>it's operated by sjws&trannies Literally everything is now, including V SJWs and Trannies did NOT start ANY of these projects. Men did. Electrical Engineers and Hackers. Tor was started by Men in the Navy. Who were NOT SJWs: The Navy is the Traditional place for such men. So no: we don't have to accept it; nor should we. They took our world and then banned us from it.
>>451 >same reason why most of the relays and nodes are still government operated. Everyone wants speed. No one would use it if it wasn't fast. In the beginning mostly hackers and the Navy operated the nodes.
>>470 >>If that isn't enough, TOR traffic can be blocked by ISPs using DPI. which is blatant propaganda. Then the sjw faggots the govt hired better fix the fucking code. The ofbjproxy is supposed to circumvent that problem.
>>6401 > >>4349 >pro-loli Sauce on FOSS being Pro-loli, boss? >"The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of Democrat activismography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness." > >RMS on June 28th, 2003 https://stallman.org/archives/2003-mar-jun.html > >-------------------------- > >"I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing. " > >RMS on June 5th, 2006) https://stallman.org/archives/2006-mar-jun.html#05%20June%202006%20(Dutch%20paedophiles%20form%20political%20party > >-------------------------- > >" There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children. > >Granted, children may not dare say no to an older relative, or may not realize they could say no; in that case, even if they do not overtly object, the relationship may still feel imposed to them. That's not willing participation, it's imposed participation, a different issue. " > >RMS on Jan 4th, 2013) https://stallman.org/archives/2013-jan-apr.html#04_January_2013_(Pedophilia
Given the fact that ISP's can see you connecting to the network and that the government probably performs deep packet inspection on some users, what is the best way to obfuscate connections to the networks? this is my current setup: >Tunnel VNC through SSH to VPS in another country. >Use Tor Browser via the VNC viewer from that VPS. Ofcource the cloud provider knows who owns the server but im thinking that because its in a differenct jurisdiction my traffic will look legit.
Is there anything like Neocities for Tor? Are there any good Onion-only webrings?
>>6851 Interesting. The traffic coming directly from you will not look like Tor traffic.
>>6851 >>7080 You can use bridges to hide the fact that you are using tor.
There are a lot of sites that already exist that I kind of wish they had an onion link to access them. Or, more generally, it'd be nice to have a lot more 'normal' onion-sites. E.g., news sites (that aren't just crypto and drug news), informational sites (like, idk, a darkweb wikipedia about...normal human history instead of just where to get drugs), stuff like that.
>>7412 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/researchers-use-gpu-fingerprinting-to-track-users-online/ Webgl probably should be disabled if you need javascript on to unbreak a website but I don't think it does anything if you're browsing with javascript off as recommended. There's the possibility of having multiple sessions linked together into a single profile if you regularly change your settings to something nobody else uses and that becomes detectable, although whether that profile can be linked to a real world identity is a separate problem. http://darkzzx4avcsuofgfez5zq75cqc4mprjvfqywo45dfcaxrwqg6qrlfid.onion/post/study-using-stylometry-to-detect-a-vendors-alternate-profiles/ And of course there's other soft methods to take into account.
>>7413 >Webgl probably should be disabled if you need javascript on For sure https://thehackernews.com/2022/01/your-graphics-card-fingerprint-can-be.html >settings to something nobody else uses Guess we should spread the link in >>7412 more often
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Tor marks all my posts with (You) unless I use new identity every post. And at some point I'll use the clearnet version because of how slow Tor is, so it would be pretty easy to determine which posts are mine. Does Tor have any point?
tfw i use opera to buy firecrackers kek
Not a reply since 2022? Damn! Anyway, bumping for a curated list (if possible) of working .onion links, most of the sites I used to visit, like the imperial library of trantor, are dead.
>>12380 This still works. I last checked an hour ago. zqktlwiuavvvqqt4ybvgvi7tyo4hjl5xgfuvpdf6otjiycgwqbym2qad.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
what if we started putting our own cube-sats and use it as exit node from tor ?
>>449 >it's a honeypot do people genuinely think this?
>>450 because people who unironically say things like "SJWs" and "trannies" are incompetent
Has anyone else had issues with Tor Browser for the past few weeks? Both Flatpak desktop and Android mobile have broken for me. >>14011 ^
>>14011 Tor isn't just the codebase, it's also the huge network of nodes that form the backbone of its anonymization and are also a significant attack vector for deanonymization. The entire architecture is built around expensive to maintain entry nodes and legally risky exit nodes. An intelligence service can operate many instances of both.
>>449 bruh, it's well known that nsa controls almost all the exit-nodes, if not all of them. tor is as secure as a wet fucking sieve.
>>450 what would be the point? What would you put in your fork? >it's the exact same project but I'm not a tranny


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