>>79371 I guess it depends on what you believe is good quality art. That's a highly subjective question and I'm going to go out on a limb and say you are probably in a minority that is extremely critical of AI art. Not a criticism, just an observation. Some would say it's already here. I wouldn't go quite that far. I've seen some decent stuff and I've made some decent stuff. I've also seen so real bad/lazy art. I've also made some that I wasn't completely happy with and just couldn't get it to work. I think we are at the beginning of quality art and it will continue to improve. You may not agree because your standards are higher, so it will take longer to satisfy folks like yourself, but I think you will be satisfied a lot sooner than you might think.

>>79371 Moore's law would suggest that good shit will come sooner rather than later, but I don't think we're going to hit a point where everything just moves to AI porn and we never look back. For one, it's going to regulated beyond belief. At least in the US, where a lot of these startups are based, the trend the past few years (which might be furthered under a conservative administration) is to reduce the ease of access to porongraphic stuff. There's little of that around AI now because it's such a new technology and the big names (openai) are playing it extremely safe with what they allow to be generated. I don't think it's reached the attention of many lawmakers or their supporters. Not seriously at least. As soon as some group that a politician wants to please gets on the news to complain and people start caring, culture will change and regulations will follow. Companies that are smart enough to become so large in the space are also smart enough to recongize this possibility, and are instead going to focus on selling or licensing their tech to companies in other industries. They're just more stable long-term right now. Easier than getting embroiled in potential obscenity law changes in the future. Porn's a huge industry and you bet they want to get in on it, but it'll be secondary to what they'll aim to do with their tech for some time. It's not that we someday won't have the technology to make that 20 minute video of Emma Watson gang tickled with perfect voice and laughter and visuals that look indistinguishable from real life, it's that we won't be given access to it.

>>79378 First, Moore's Law is not a law, so I'm skeptical on that point. Second, and more importantly, the latest AI out of China may have just upended the established model.The new AI is purportedly better, cheaper to use and open source. This could lead to lots of competition for closed source AI, held by US based companies. As far as a curtailing of porn. As a porn producer, I can say I saw more headaches under Obama and Biden than Trump. Yes, conservatives are often the moral prudes (at least in public), but liberal law makers created onerous legislation in a mad dash to "save the children." Pornhub, Clips4sale and the rest got good and scared and made my job 10 times harder with content restrictions and make work bullshit. Ai is here to stay. People like Musk, who ring the alarm bell and call for a moratorium are just running a con game, given that they are heavily involved in the commercial potentials of that technology. I don't think AI will destroy humanity. Certainly not in the way people tend to imagine.

>>79372 >I guess it depends on what you believe is good quality art. That's a highly subjective question ... Even more so for porn I would say. Most people are probably of the opinion, if I can jerk to it, it's good enough. >So will we ever be getting content that amounts to the quality of tickling artists or real videos of tickling? I think there will be a surely be a cap on quality by the fact that Tickling is a niche and content producers tend to appeal to the the most popular thing. If you are making money on "trash", then there is no incentive to improve it. Sure there will always be some autistic outlier that does it for the art, but that will always be the exception, not the rule.

>>79391 Again, it's all subjective. I do agree that the average person will be satisfied with AI videos, whether its are vanilla or porn. You'll have the minority "no fap to AI" crowd, but they are a minority. It's like people who prefer analog music over digital or practical effects over CGI. Yeah, they're vocal, but they're also a small minority in comparison to the overall population.

There is already *some* AI tickling art that is good, and the rare piece that is very good - though the latter I think often has had human intervention in Photoshop. I have no idea how even those pretty good images are being generated now - presumably through AI generators you have to pay for. I've experimented with a bunch of the big free AI generators, and the results are almost always crap. The images rarely follow the prompt, and they constantly have weird distorted feet and hands. Clearly better AI already exists than you get from the free image generators, which seem pretty much useless. AI will never replace human-made art. It will never have the flair and originality a good artist has. But it does have the potential to let those of us who can't draw imagine and make images... at some point.

AI tickling art is already starting to get a little better, these are currently the best loras for tickling that I've seen output good results: For Upper body tickling: https://civitai.com/models/473784?modelVersionId=527006 For feet tickling: https://civitai.com/models/685782/feet-tickling-in-stocks Now, the creater of the feet tickling lora's page is full of thousands of tickling images, and you can see them improve overtime. Unfortunately their tickle art just features fat furries. but it's really interesting because to certain people, the art's quality appears good enough quality to jerk to. And that means that we're insanely close to having a super high quality tickling lora. (and don't forget the checkpoint matters as well.) Creaters page: https://civitai.com/user/HelloSir54/posts (you have to make an account to see his newer content)

>>79371 Depends on what you mean by good. Generative AI more or less operates on the principle of monkey see monkey do. It's always going to look samey and have mistakes with continuity no matter what, if that's your deal breaker. It's inevitable that we'll have actual intelligent AI someday. (AGI) Once a machine can develop an internal understanding of the world, it could create art on par with (or better than) a human mind. But nothing we have right now comes even remotely close to this, so you'll have to wait until 2100. Beggars can't be choosers. Personally though, I think you should stop going into AI with the expectation that it's a magic crystal ball that can do anything flawlessly. AI generators can at least produce a pretty decent approximation of what you're looking for most of the time. That's a lot better than nothing.

it will literally never be good and you're fucking retarded for even wanting it to be

>>79400 t. seething artist

Why anyone thinks ai will ever be good enough when it's all programmed by flawed humans. The only difference is humans hide their flaws WAY better than the ai ever could.

>>79398 And this is why it's all highly subjective. To one person, those loras look good. To me, it's boring lifeless, and generic. But most human art is also boring, lifeless, and generic too so that's not necessarily a critique of AI art. In that sense, you could really reframe the question as "When does humanity start producing the good stuff?" Oh wait, we've been asking that for a long time now.

>>79371 Soon, anon. Soon. AI has recently hit the famous "wall", the theoretical (or practical) barrier that slows down or halts progress in artificial intelligences. Everyone knows that by now. I'm pretty sure that barrier came for image generators too. However, as humans have always done before, we are aaalways finding ways. Pic related is an image generated by NovelAI's latest model. (It is paid, yes, but worth supporting if you ask me) No photoshop, no editing, no inpainting. Raw from the generator. Now, granted, it did take me 10 or more "generate" button presses before getting that. It's not SUPER creative either, but if you ask me, it's WAY better than what we had last year. Or... earlier (Clearly) And was super easy and quick too! Which is what matters. Most stuff you see on pixiv that are AI generated have a lot of editing or inpainting applied in order to look passable. But it looks like we won't be needing that anymore as time goes by. Prompt was: "{{tickling}}, disembodied hand, bondage, {{armpit play, armpit tickling}}, {hands touching armpits}, laughing, tears" Character prompt was: "girl, lana (pokemon)" Signs point that it's only going to improve from here. Fingers crossed, I'm just as excited.

>>81632 Feet are shaded wrong, among other shading, shadows don't match, obvious photoshop of poorly done mspaint... Boy get that shit out of here.

>>81566 Soon.(TM) Said every silidumb valley techfuck...

At this point, its good enough for ai standards, newer and smarter versions of checkpoints usually come out every 2 weeks, the next big checkpoint; like illustrious/noobai, usually comes out every 2-5 months.

>>81632 I see the point made, however this clearly has manual work done to the tickling tools, so it doesn't count as fully AI. >>81633 Anon, you're telling me that you don't wanna fap to these feet because SHADOWS DON'T MATCH? Lmao. The lengths that people go just to hate on AI for no reason. >>81634 That is true, they do say that. Although they are mostly just hype farming. The real truth is that, "soon" means "in the next few years, humanity will evolve this technology steadily", and not "WE WILL ACHIEVE AGI IN THE NEXT 3 MONTHS GIVE US YOUR MONEY" And people need to realize that. >>81643 It's just a waiting game at this point. It's already pretty good, and I just don't see a world we don't have great quality AI art in 1 or 2 years. Also, 5 years ago, art like this would've been considered peak. People have just gotten so used to AI art, that they consider it bad.

I dunno, is this good?

>>81673 holy crap this is good

>>81673 What platform are you using? Given the changing positions of the chains, its still images strung together? I use Hailuo and make videos, but I have a hell of a time getting tickling to work. Either the AI has issues or the platform's dev have programed restrictions for certain kinds of physical interaction.Looks good.

Via feetgen.com

>>79371 Image stuff is meh, but text-based content, especially interactive stories are getting there. I've spent the last few days re-enacting my favorite TMF stories as interactive stories on Perchance, and Brother in Christ, is my dick sore. It's definitely not perfect. If I tried to sell any of those texts off as a work of art of my own, it would be an illogical mess full of redundancy. But as a stream of small reactive story bits, and sticking to the concepts I had in mind, it's pretty awesome. I have zero effort in ignoring the redundant bits, and if I don't like it, it's rewritten with alternative interpretations of my prompt with a single click. I already take it over anything from writing.com or chyoa.com.

>>81691 do you mind sharing your custom list ? the tickling option is only making hands vaguely holding the feet with thumbs resting on the soles for me

>>81655 Oh sorry, I just think art should be created by artist who know how to art. Not some beep bop robot that couldn't make a finger paint turkey if it's circuits depended on it.

>>81757 >created by artist who know how to art The robots sound smarter than you do.

>>81706 Post your stories plz!

>>81760 Samefag here, sorry Man, they are really not worthy to be called stories. They would need a ton of editing at the bare minimum. But I really do recommend trying Perchance's text adventure/rpg features for setting up an interactive story for yourself. Tons of options, based on the selected mode. If you want tickling based combat, baseline tickling or raunchier stuff, it can handle it all.

>>81757 Oh, let me guess: Is it because the thought "this was made by a real person" actually turns you on and contributes to your pleasure during masturbation? Or just because you like being a bitch about cool robots who make instant porn? I'm gonna take a wild guess that it's not the first option.

& since we posting the AI images that are actually good, here's one via NovelAI

>>81566 >>81673 >>81691 >>81773

I don't think you guys understand the disappointment of seeing a good pic and going "oh, thats a good pic, I'd like to see more from this artist" only to find out there is no artist. I'm not upset at AI art because its not good enough or that it's made out of uncredited labor or whatever. I disdain it for its simple lack of humanity. nothing more, nothing less. Who can I thank for this work? who do I encourage to make more? some crayon eating 'prompter'? While you all coom into the void I long to coom for my fellow man. Does that make me a luddite?

>>81779 No it doesn't. But here's the thing... Either you're missing the point or you're finding a point in something that should be better pointless if you're even in this board it's because you're attracted to tickling. "Respect to artist, Humanity, Encouraging Art" This is all very noble, beautiful, utopian, ooh! It might go a long way in the real world, for real art. But not here. People mostly encourage and praise tickle artists because it gets them hard. They do it because it's porn. It gets them going. Caroo? WTFeather? Any other artist? If it was just about art, they wouldn't have half the fanbase they have. If you praise tickling art for any reason other than that, then you do you. But just keep in mind, that this is a fetish board, not art college. Anyone here can talk about supporting artists, respecting creativity, and encouraging expression all they want, but in the end, the driving force here isn’t some noble pursuit of artistic excellence. It’s desire. It’s fetish. That’s why people show up, why they post, why they pay. And that's why, while some do, most don't care if a robot can pump this content better and faster than the average artist. This is why I understand people being mad about AI art being supported out in the real world, but in the porn underworlds of the internet? Stupid. If you’re here thinking you’re part of some greater artistic movement, you might be in the wrong place. Because at the end of the day, most people here don’t care about art. They care about getting off.

>>81780 I still care, morpheus find a point in the pointless and you will never want for meaning.

>>81780 Yes, you are right to a degree. There are many people that don't care at all about how the sausage is made. As long as the magic computer box keeps making image number 572 of princess peaches' feet in something resembling stocks then reward circuits in monkey brain will go brrr. Fetish porn can be seen as such a disposable luxury akin to junk food that AI is probably ideal for these types of people. It can now be produced en mass, like conveyer belt grey slop indistinguishable from each other but containing just the right amount of fat, sugar and salt to keep you coming back for more. Fine. Congratulations. You guys have found your infinite pleasure button. Get in the Skinner's box and start cranking it like the rest of them. But I still think there is a significant amount of people, even viewing this board right now - the so called tickle fetish 'underworld', that still prefer to know that their degenerate kink material was made, rather than manufactured, by human hands. Call it human weakness, relatability, shared experience, 'artistic integrity' (lol) or whatever feel good excuse you can come up with. People are still human and require that human connection with art, even smut art. Even pleasure seeking coomers have a soul somewhere underneath the layers of crusted semen stains. Just appreciate both views exist. The person that enjoys the pencil tickle doodles of their super niche OC from the part time artist and the person that enjoys the AI prompts of latex Samus 917 getting her toes drilled.

>>81791 I think for a lot of people the end result matters. Sure it's nice to know an artist put 10 hours into a piece and really put a lot of effort in, but if an AI were to make an exact replica (as an example) would you really care? Would you care if the new kandemrem pieces were all AI generated (but looked the exact same)? I think the big issue that people have with AI is that it still looks *off* given people an uncanny vibe instead of it being made with a computer instead of "soul".

>>81794 (Kandemrem pieces DO look all the same though)

>>81791 >implying it was impossible to make mass-produced, soulless art before AI The average person doesn't care about the metaphysical properties of whether the porn they're fapping to was produced with kosher drawing tools or not. They care about the end result. AI is simply another method that happens to have a lot of weaknesses. You can walk and chew gum at the same time, it's not that deep.

>>81796 Not to speak of the crap many artists sell off as content, (and by "sell" I do mean making quite the money) a.k.a. 200 copies of the same image with minimal changes, no narrative, no progression, just a flying feather layer swapped to a flying hand layer amd shit like that. Now I'm not a fan of AI slop, talentless guys with the 'tism bumrushed the generators way too early and swarmed every community with cringe inducing vile shit, but even I admit that the tech keeps improving and half assed, scammy, low-effort artists have a reason to fear replacement. Kusujinn doesn't have to be afraid. Or Bad-Pierrot. Or people with maybe less realistic but unique and well distinguishable style like Bandito or Bombers And we lost some good warriors to the AI slop, GhostOS is truely just a ghost of what Scavenger was, this is unfortunate development. But frankly, if Satur1n, or what's their name these days, wtfeather and such are replaced by AI images that do the exact fking same thing they do, I think that's fair game. Agriculture and the military always needs new hands, boys and girls, if you want to make a living. How can human made art survive in such circumstances? 1: staying unique and intimate. AI can't surprise me. It will give me what I want and exactly that. It will always reflect my requests, nothing more, nothing less. 2: standing out with something. AI tires my eyes with the abundance of the same thing. Be a beacon that attracts and calms my eyes. 3: responsibility of the community. Make house rules to flag AI, warn about AI, hide AI behind filters, isolate AI to protect personal aspect which I still think to be more important. If we give in to brainrot, we fail as a species. Talented artists working hard and people looking to connect with them should never be drowned in an abundance of ai wank material generated during a gooning session by a brainrotted coomer. And this shall be a fundamental right.

>>81791 >>81804 I think that we can all agree on at least one thing, and that is, when the replacement does start happening, it will be survival of the fittest. No such thing as fundamental right, Mr Founding Father. I agree that, to a certain extent, some artists may be irreplaceable, and I appreciate that "human uniqueness" in their art, that you all talk so much about. But AI is still gonna win me over in all aspects, be it by speed or quality. If not right now, then eventually. The main argument here against AI seems the "requirement of human connection", and "uniqueness", and "being surprised" (which is something that some say AI will never be able to do to us, but more on that in a bit). Ironically, the same arguments used for the same discussion on non-porn art. What is there to say about it? Well. Like I said in a previous post, if you're here with an inner need for art that touches you, instead of just you touching your penis, then good on you buddy. All those points are HIGHLY subjective, and I understand if you need human connection on your porn (sorta? personally I don't care but I can understand why you might). But see, as generated images, maybe videos, even, as they improve with time, with years, people will start asking (and this far into it, they are already are asking) if they can live with the fact that no hands drew the girl crying of tickling laughter in some stationary restraints that they're seeing, and it is actually the magic of a machine designed to fulfill human wishes. I can, indeed live with that. And I would very much like to be able to order 5 images of Nanachi's armpits getting absolutely obliterated by tickling hands while she hopelessly thrashes around in a bondage device, and get EXACTLY that, either for free, or for a low price, and in less than a minute. Be honest, anyway. Who wouldn't? We saw in this board how advanced shit is. Let's give it a few more years and see if people that care about humanity change their minds. If they don't it's fine too, point is, some have already changed theirs. If you think AI is never gonna be able to surprise us, I'm happy to tell you that it's literally just because AI technology is so recent that companies are still gatekeeping it hard enough that nothing both cool and NSFW related gets done with them. (Except NovelAI story generator, god bless NovelAI) When that does happen, THEN, you should probably welcome our new robot overlords. Companies will at some point start realizing it, and will capitalize on 90% of people here (some already managing, see FeetGen and NovelAI) because by then real artists, while the good ones won't inherently be replaced, they will be forced to share space with robots that are just as decent albeit way faster. In simpler terms, it's really just a matter 2 things: Time, and personal taste. For now though... I think we can all enjoy some robot-generated image of a cutie being tickled to oblivion if it looks good enough, no?

>>81804 A fundamental right for who? It's already insanely easy to ignore AI art and other "brainrot" if you really don't want to see it.

>>81768 Maybe i'm not some trilobite that consumes detritus shoveled out some soulless corporate machine that insist on charging me to use imagination and creativity. Go fuck yourself, or should I say go get your Iphone to fuck yourself.

>>81813 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_I6kj9fTc

Personally, feetgen feels kinda revolutionary and it's most likely only gonna improve over time. Can't say much about NovelAi as I have not used it once. However, as fat as chatbots go, I feel like there wasn't that much development over the last months. The only ones improving seem to be spicychat.ai with their news model. That costs money though.

>>81813 Sure, you can enjoy the benefits of the ever improving AI. Sure, you can go "That'll do". It's easier for smut anyway. As for me, I always liked the personal aspect of it. I like discussing stuff like that with living breathing human beings. Like you. I'd probably be more serviced by talking to an AI, but I'd never completely switch people like you for it. I talked to and met interesting people and even had live sessions within the community. It was a rare occasion and even if she wasn't a tall slender Elven princess with ridiculously ticklish size 10s whom I could generate by the dozens for smut thanks to AI, I'd have never got there if I was talking to chatbots instead of finding one of her stories and sending her a praising message. I don't even remember half of the smut I generated yesterday as an experiment. I do remember those sessions. It has always been a little bit more than consuming content to me. Don't get me wrong, if that's as far as you're concerned, you do you, I can easily understand why you're hopeful that you'll be able to make do with nothing but AI one day. As for me, surrounding myself with AI -while it's getting better for just a wank- it just feels kinda lonely. Even more so than having a fetish regularly does. Am I really going to start praising people over writing a prompt? What will happen to our beloved hate/cringe threads? Where will be the drama when mediocrity becomes the new low? And the new peak as well? What will we discuss? Are we supposed to stop chatting with each other only because AI writes a better smut and won't be much to discuss or many to discuss with anyway? I may be an old man yelling at clouds, but I really hope that the community will be able to protect itself from the effects that take the human element out of something like tickling. Without that, I see a very lonely, very sad future for the people who are supposed to be the tickling community. I don't want to say one day that I liked talking to and meeting people before AI made dead internet more than just a conspiracy theory.

>>81828 As far as roleplay is concerned, I do think that on average AI is wayyy better than humans are. A lot of the people in the community are 1 line andy's who barely put in any effort. There are exceptions of course, but I found them a lot more rare than the 1 liners. The community will still be a thing, and I doubt every artist will just quit on the spot for it. We can still hate on artists like Moekeki who is putting his shitty AI stuff behind a paywall now. We can see wtfeather go from same image handdrawn to same image AI generated. I do think you are old man yelling at clouds to since I doubt it's going to be as bad as you think, because people will seek others who are interested in it. I also doubt that AI can't just exist alongside the normal artists and people. I like that there is the option for both. Wanna put in no effort or something instant? use AI want something more personal? hit up an artist or make a rp request in a discord server.

>>81833 >trying to find RP partners on fucking discord of all places Well there's your problem. Discord is just barely better than deviantart in terms of overall literacy. Go lurk on f-list or something if you really want to find a serious roleplay partner. But yeah, for what it's worth, AI does tend to be pretty good in terms of playing out various scenarios like that.

>>81833 I feel like this is just a small facet of a far greater problem People are spurning human interaction and aspects of the human experience in favor of machines that will just tell them what they want to hear and show them what they want to see

>>81836 Agreed, and part of the problem is real connections take work and energy. You have to put yourself out there risking rejection, failed relationships, and worse yet, outright hate. The payoff is far greater, but it's much easier to settle for a shadow of the human experience.

>>81836 >>81837 Why you guys so negative? Pixels are Pixels no matter where they came from. Also Would you guys prefer to live in a fake but perfect world or in a imperfect but real world? I prefer the fake one.

Does anyone have good prompts for feetgen? I dunno where to start and don't wanna pay for credits

>>81839 A world that is fake will never be "perfect", and you are fooling yourself if you think settling for a shadow merely imitating the real thing will lead you to a fulfilling existence.

>>81843 If something imitating the real thing is exactly like the real thing, then is there even any difference, and what are the implications of that? That's a known paradox anon. A known one we all know the answer to. If you feel like its' the same thing, then it will never matter.

>>81844 yes anon, we may very well be brains in jars but how many jars deep do you wanna go?

>>81844 Men who do nothing but dream, should just stay in their dreams forever!

You lot sure like to overthink things.

>>81836 Exactly, why would I put in effort for something I might not enjoy when AI can give me a quick nut? The real people are still there for when I do desire it, but that can't satisfy my needs in that exact moment. There can be balance, it's not one or the other.

>>81849 THIS All this mumbo jumbo about what is fake and what has the touch of humanity or not when it's just LITERALLY THIS >>81845 Let me tell you a secret, anon. Both the predicament in question and the "brain in jars" one, only make a difference if you think about them.

idk man, i can fap to this

>>81868 I mean I could too, but tbh the longer you look at these the more empty they feel. I'd rather fap to something made by an artist that has passion you can feel through their work. I don't have all the time in the world to consume porn, so when I do I want it to be good. Satisfying.

>>81890 Nta but you can only say that if you're aware that the drawing you're looking at is Ai or not. Right now I can agree that it's not good enough because even if it looks good, all it takes is for you to spot one mistake, a weird finger, weird background, weird lighting, etc. Whatever gives it away that it's Ai generated for you go quickly lose interest in the image and go look for something else. That's just for now though, give it a year or two more and we'll be no different from those Twitter people that get into argument with artists because nobody can tell if an art piece is using AI or not.

if you're not a footfag, ai is pretty much already there on the tickling, and if you are, it's getting there. you guys just need to actually follow the ai tickling people with custom models they train themselves and start looking into that instead of hoping bing will let you make the pictures or some shit.

>>81921 who is the artist for the fourth?

>>81926 It's this guy right here.

>>81921 This still has that shitty plastic feel inherent to AI porn. Feels like it was made in an assembly line. There's no style to it, no love. Why tf would anyone ever fap to something made by a machine when you have real Humans sharing your kinks and putting out good stuff? I won't ever understand what's so appealing about this crap. It's gray slop. It can technically sate the hunger (I guess) but you could go for a nice steak with a glass of wine and have a way better time instead.

>>81934 I kind of understand your point, and agree actually. So while I support AI porn, I definitely agree with you. I would have a way better time fapping to an artist's work, at least with the current state of AI. I think the whole point is that the person fapping feels in the freedom of coming up with their own images quickly, images that follow their exact instructions, whereas if you're not an artist all you could do is hope someone made what you wanted or pay a lot for a commission. Don't get me wrong, I would way better prefer a steak with a glass of wine. But This is much cheaper and faster, and at some point in the future it might even have the same taste.

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>>81768 Actually it is the first one for me. I'm not gatekeeping or shitting on AI smut, but it's hotter when the scenario I'm jacking it to is something a real person came up with

Just wanted to mention since nobody has - Flux is making decent tickling images, at least for my taste :)

>>82046 >Just wanted to mention since nobody has - Flux is making decent tickling images, at least for my taste :) Care to share your prompts? :)

Did Feetgen stop giving free 50 coins for new accounts? I wanted to try it out, and it's asking to purchase coins.