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Tokusatsu General Thread Anonymous 09/14/2022 (Wed) 23:48:01 No. 1015
Since we have no /m/, this is the next best thing. Discuss all things tokusatsu past & present. The latest Kamen Rider entry, Kamen Rider Geats, has just started. Feel free to as how to get into the franchise as well as the best sub options available.
>>3914 The fact that Inoue and original cast were involved doesn't change the fact that the movie is shit. Again: what is the reason to bring back those movies, if they will get ruined (even if ruined by the original writers and directors)? I am not talking about the relationship between characters. I am talking about the lame "sex" scene that was hyped as the biggest thing ever by retarded fans since the info was leaked, and it ended up being just a embarrassing scene, comical in how bad it is, and with no actual sex scenes involved. Again, retarded fans were baited by fake advertisement and hyped the movie for free, like the idiots that they are. > Inoue wrote the damn thing So? That doesn't exempt it from criticism. He is not sacred to do anything he wants with the story. Even him, as writer and director, must follow rules. But since he doesn't, the movie ended up like that: pure cancer. And yes, I watched Inoue's shows. And he is a hack. Plain and simple. All of his shows and stories are shit. Precisely because of how inconsistent he is, and how he always ends things with sequel bait. THAT is my complaint: the movie was advertised as a CONCLUSION. Not another open ended story with sequel bait. The sooner Inoue dies, the better.
>>3916 >Again: what is the reason to bring back those movies, if they will get ruined (even if ruined by the original writers and directors)? >Anon doesn't get nostalgia baiting They've been doing this with the showa riders since the Heisei era, how are you surprised doing this in the Reiwa era isn't any different? Especially with how Faiz is seemingly popular with the nips. >I am talking about the lame "sex" scene that was hyped as the biggest thing ever by retarded fans since the info was leaked From what I looked up, this hype you claim was because of the controversy behind it(first draft was supposed to be human on orphnoch form which both Takumi and Mari's actors declined). So it seems more like genuine curiosity on what this trainwreck will look, like Inoue did with Hibiki rather than actual enthusiasm. >So? That doesn't exempt it from criticism. He is not sacred to do anything he wants with the story. Even him, as writer and director, must follow rules. But since he doesn't, the movie ended up like that: pure cancer. You've just missed the point, He's not exempt from criticism but because he has a track record you should have the very least expected the movie to be bad. From your ranting it's clear that you're the perfect audience from this kind of cancer because you barely do any research on who worked on the media you're consuming, complain in generalities then consume again even if the next piece of media is from the same team. Are you the same faggot claiming he has nip fans for sources but can't even name a single writer/director/producer besides Inoue?
>>3917 I am not surprised. I am complaining about it still happening. It must stop. My expectations were always low, due to being Inoue (THE worst director, writer and producer of all time in tokusatsu), but my complaints are directed towards the companies itself: those movies ALWAYS flop. Every single one of those "(insert years) later" flopped. so why still make them? The highest a movie ever earned was still the Decade All Riders movie, more than a decade ago. Since then, every celebratory movie, both in sentai and rider, have lowered it's earnings. so, what is the point? My guess is money laundering. Aside from that, what is even the point of making those cancers? Any media where you need to do research before enjoying it is automatically shit. The best thing about it is how everyone is simply moving away from it all, as the sales numbers are showing a lower than ever amount of earnings. The same team should be FORCED to change their ways, to make better media. And if they don't, then be fired and never hired again.
Ignoring the schizo edgelord again, I'm actually enjoying Gotchard. It finds it's stride after the 10th episode. Not that it was actually bad till then. It just didn't find a strong connection yet. I'm glad I gave it another chance.
>>3921 >muh schizo >muh edgy bad Found the plebbitor. No wonder you like shit.
Looking up more on the Faiz leaks, anon here is just embarrassing himself. Plebbit https://archive.md/DGYyw RetardEra https://archive.md/OoygI and even fucking Twatter knew Inoue was writing and Tasaki directing the damn movie months before the movie leak and this faggot kept ragging on how about the new writers and directors ruining the movie and it's not even a leak. I'm questioning how you even found this basket weaving site unless someone directed and paid you to be a faggot here. >>3921 They added a third writer on Rinne's rider debut so I would advise to expect some shared writing styles. It's Toshiki Inoue's daughter, Akiko Inoue https://friday.kodansha.co.jp/article/358094. How many episodes will she write? 2 so far and we'll just have to wait if there's more
>>3937 The only reason Inoue wouldn't be writing an anniversary movie of his most popular Kamen Rider series would be if he was busy doing something else. Don't know how someone could be surprised he's directing it.
>>3937 >>3939 The movie just proves that Inoue is shit.
So Core Medal of Resurrection & Paradise Regained are I guess going to be the trend of non-canon direct series sequel movies. Which would be fine if they just made it clear they're meant to be their own things. Toei at least made a supposed statement that it is ignoring the events of Kamen Rider 4 deliberately. So by that you can infer it's not canon. Would be nice though if a real genuine sub group would cover it then. Instead of being stuck with Flame's localization shitpost subs. He's a fucking plague on Kamen Rider subbing. >>4016 Different argument.
>>4038 I find it hilarious that Inoue might be getting more work if they intend to to follow the trend of having the original show writers work on the anniversary movies with Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto and Kiva (Den-O being a sole exception since it's a Yasuko Kobayashi work) 20th for the next 5 years. >Faiz I just find it retarded to name the Faiz one Paradise Regained when Paradise Lost exists not to mention Paradise Lost having a better grimdark setting than the tv series.
>>4041 >I just find it retarded to name the Faiz one Paradise Regained when Paradise Lost exists That's the point. Paradise Lost is "What if the heroes lost & humanity suffered?". While Paradise Regained is "What happened after the ending years later?". Arguably also playing into how phone technology has advanced.
>>4045 But Regained wasn't a sequel to Lost but to the tv series is what I'm getting at and with a title like that, I was expecting a follow up to Lost's story. >Core Medal of Resurrection Missed this one, all I know from it is that Eiji dies and it turned me off from watching. Based on the poster did Eiji exchange his life for Ankh or give him his body, finally granting his desire?
>>4049 Read anon. I'm not saying it's a sequel to Lost. It's a sequel to the series. There's no where they could've gone with making a sequel to Lost. Though if this movie's also a non-canon other timeline movie then it doesn't really matter as a series sequel either. Eiji dies in the beginning. A need Greeed took over his body & can't be separated or else Eiji will die die for real. At the end, Ankh takes over his body so they can beat him. Then Eiji dies surrounded by his friends & just happy he was able to save lives.
>>4051 >There's no where they could've gone with making a sequel to Lost >Smart Brain being a one world government due to them converting most of humanity into orphnochs It's a common set up so there's something there to work on but I have to partially agree since part of the appeal of Regained was having the old cast and staff back and Lost wiped out most of the cast. >OOO I assume killing Eiji twice is a twist for those who've kept up with OOO since they've been killing Ankh on every crossover movie. It's predictable but they better revive Eiji for the 20th.
>>4056 Japanese productions are declining in quality and becoming just like American comic books: nothing is permanent and nothing is conclusive anymore. Any loss or death is undone whenever iut is convenient for the writers and producers of whatever new movie (stand alone, crossover or celebratory) comes out next. No matter if it takes 1, 10 or 20+ years, at some point, everything that was set and done in one show will be undone in the future by some idiot That is why I don't care anymore about any of the extra content or expanded universe (prequels, sequels and side stories) of any tokusatsu show. They all suck. And they suck exactly because the ones inolved in their production always retcon and change what was done before, just to sell toys or to create a convenient excuse to bring back some popular actor. The movies and specials make the shows worse.
>>4189 >create a convenient excuse to bring back some popular actor Can you cite an example? If anyting, TOEI is either incompetent or lazy to bring popular actors back. >The movies and specials make the shows worse. Depends, Paradise Lost is what Faiz should've been, God Speed Love is a better origin for Kabuto. Some of the series also end up in a situation where the Rider has to continue to be a Rider(Blade, W, Ex-Aid) or just outright shit(Faiz and Hibiki) that there's a demand for an epilogue or something conclusive.
>>4192 Example? All crossover and celebratory movies from the past decade. From heroes to villains and "final bosses" all coming back in one way or another. And that cancer that is Outsiders. >Depends Not, it doesn't. After Decade, the movies simply ruin the show's lore in one way or another, by undoing some key plot point. and that is done AGAIN years later, in t he case of celebratory movies, having the plot and key points ruined even further.
>>4189 You're complaining about having the very same actors from the show come back to do a movie related to the show? >>4227 Some of these shows ruin their own lore, Ghost being the biggest contender in the Neo-Heisei era. Let's not forget some of these movies are written by the show writers themselves.
As expected, Toei is now pushing alcohol to children. Since that law was approved last year, the one that allows minors to consume alcohol now in Japan, I was predicting that children's shows would start pushing aslcohol at some point. And here it is. This week's Boom Boongerr had a in-your-face alcohol advertisement for children, with the so called 'heroes" all gathered in a bar/nightclub, each drinking different types of cocktails and shown to be enjoying it. Expect way more decadence like that in future shows.
>>4229 >You're complaining about having the very same actors from the show come back to do a movie related to the show? I'm complaining about the anniversary movies existing in the first place. The plot is always shit. The actors are old. The directors and writers don't care about making a good story. Those movies should not exist. See if you understand this simple concept, retard: those movies are all shit and it would be better if they were never made. >Let's not forget some of these movies are written by the show writers themselves. Anonymous 06/23/2024 (Sun) 05:46:28 No. 4240 And that doesn't change the fact that they are shit. Who cares if it is the same guy writing, when the writing is shit? "The origi9nal creator approved this/did this" is no excuse to allow them to be shit.
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>>4240 >He doesn't remember Kamen Rider G >>4241 >"The origi9nal creator approved this/did this" is no excuse to allow them to be shit. Yes, when the source material is shit and if we go by your previous post that the movies are shit since they change the lore then any media made being made besides the show is shit regardless of change.
>>4240 Now you're just sounding like a pearl clutching american mom. Japan doesn't have the same censor practices as america. They can get away with showing alcohol in kid's media.
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>>4240 I assume this is the episode? I can clearly hear them call the drinks juice.
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New Rider is out in a few weeks, Gavv. The theme is snacks. >Producer is Naomi Takebe (Kiva, OOO, Gaim and Geats) >Director is Teruaki Sugihara (all Reiwa riders, got his start with Kyuranger) >Head Writer is Junko Komura (secondary writer for Wizard and Drive, more known as the head super sentai writer for Zyougher, LuPat and Zenkaiger. Another toku of note from her is Bima-X which is an Indonesian toku) They got most of the team from Geats but with Komura instead of Takahashi for the head writer. Seeing it's Komura, expect family themes and likely interesting looking but boring main villain.
>>4286 I expect the show to be as lighthearted as Gotchard especially considering the state of high tension in the world right now.
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>>4298 They started with harvesting people to make their candy so it's off to a good start.
>>4300 If they make it definitive people can die then it may be a little darker, surprisingly. Maybe it will be more like Ex-Aid where it's softer theme contrasts with the mostly serious tone.
>>4256 And that is wrong. At least I can be happy knowing that the alcohol industry is dying over there, as people choose a healthy life. To the point that the government now needs to push alcohol into a children's show. May the alcohol industry die all over the world. >>4253 G was a parody for an adult variety show, barely remembered and barely mentioned outside Zi-O's cameo. >any media being made besides the show is shit regardless of change. Yes. >>42A58 And it is still alcohol, with the typical "it is just juice, dad and mom", to avoid being attacked by the parents' association.
>>4286 Great actionm scenes. Shit premise for his powers. At least I'm glad that children are avoiding processed sugar junk in Japan, to the point that the companies producing the poison need to sponsor a tokusatsu show to desperately try to sell the poison again. Hopefully, parents realize the scheme and take their kids away from this show. >>4298 Which will make it a boring show. The way they make "lighthearted" shows is not good, in the current era. They avoid everything that make a show good, and it becomes just a bland borefest (like Gotchard was). >>4300 I find it funny that a company owned by the Yakuza, who sell drugs to people all the time, is making a show with the subtle anti-drug message, while at the same time promoting poison/sugaryprocessed sugar junk. It makes me wonder if the drugs are selling so poorly in Japan that the Yakuza are shifting towards trying to make children addicted to junk food instead of adults addicted to drugs.
>>4302 >>4303 >I can be happy knowing that the alcohol industry is dying over there >I'm glad that children are avoiding processed sugar junk in Japan That's all well and good anon but can you at least show to the board your evidence of this? If you're that faggot above claiming his source is a bunch of fans from a Japanese imageboard please archive the thread. >And it is still alcohol, with the typical "it is just juice, dad and mom" How is tomato juice an alcoholic drink? >The way they make "lighthearted" shows is not good, in the current era So what's a good lighthearted show for you anon?
>>4304 Don't bother. He's an insincere shitposter who thinks the answer to everything is being edgy. Either he's shitposting for his "character" bit or he's genuinely just stuck in a 14 year old's mentality of being edgy for the sake of it.
>>4306 It's not even that, I'm just annoyed on how low effort it is despite "watching" every rider and sentai. He didn't know the bar scene from Kamen Rider Faiz with actual alcohol, the worm doctor episode of Kamen Rider Kabuto with the oden stall owner serving sake (or Daisuke's debut episode, the mixer is likely serving beer), the Gekiranger drunken fist episode with Retsu or even the Dairanger drunken fist pose (or the episode with the tofu monster drinking sake) or any other show that had the villain with a bottle of wine. There's not even a mention of Kamen Rider the Diner https://paselabo.pasela.co.jp/rider/gm_food/ that serves both alcoholic and non-alcoholic cocktails based on a Rider and that diner has been existing for more than a decade and yet somehow selling alcohol is a current year issue. Even his rant with Gavv being anti-drug is late. W (which Gavv seems to borrow the transformation item from) and even fucking Fourze, with the school administration forcing highschool kids to use the switches (which are addicting by the way) so they could find the select few to complete the Horoscopes, have done it.
>>4323 Almost like he's a complete poser, anon.
Man, this week's Gavv had two deliciously hot children. I'm loving how producers are finally reintroducing cute/hot girls of child age in the shows since Gotchard. May those lucky producers have those kids on their beds all day.
>>4304 They say that it is tomato to avoid the parents association from filling a complaint to the government. It is clearly alcohol, and the show is trying to sell alcohol to children. Plain and simple. >So what's a good lighthearted show for you anon? 90s shows. Both tokusatsu and anime. You have shows with lighthearted characters like Megaranger, Jetman and Dairanger and still a lot of serious tones to the stories in those shows. Older shows were good, even when aimed at children. Newer shows are all dumb aimed at dumb children and dumb manchildren/"adults".


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