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Was the OT faith Jewish? Anonymous 04/30/2023 (Sun) 02:10:42 Id: 6bd067 No. 408 [Reply]
Prove it wasn't
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>>417 Actually yes, the shamanism and nature worship in Japan that existed before the Nihon Shoki and Kojiki were written were completely different things. As well, that bears no equivalency to the question at hand in this thread.
>>408 Jesus was Jewish. This is not a problem. People who think it is don't understand the Jewish problem. I say this as an active "anti-Semite".
>>426 What he's trying to say is that Rabbinic Judaism which arose after the destruction of Israel is different to Second Temple Judaism. The former is an enemy of Christ and misleads millions. The latter was fulfilled in Christ.

Anonymous 10/22/2023 (Sun) 04:20:00 Id: 8e60f3 No. 840 [Reply]
Feel free to take refuge here if anything ever happens (again?).
>>840 why did it go down?
>>866 You're saying this is a non-issue, when at the same time, it became one that you saw an opportunity for and not realizing that the wrongs that you make are just as much countable and some of which quite concerning. That might be why you are banned in a lot of places, prioritizing only the things that you feel are wrong of others but never anything from your side and completely disregarding others. Which do you think is the bigger mistake to make? Nothing is sacred on imageboards. People could just lie and operate under completely different motives. It wouldn't be worth anything to change the fact people are always going to say the N word. Or how a Christian board should be when the best you can do is simply letting people discuss it with others in good light, and just not let something posted bother you so much. That's probably the better thing you should have done instead of playing a small part in urging someone to believe they're doing something way worse than yourself. Whether you're trying to find honest good reasons here, it's still a bit of a disappointment to witness altogether. Not something that I'm going to continue with you or allow anymore said about it. Maybe with you understanding my disappointment, you'll follow my wishes and not post again. I'll be locking the thread, since it seems a better option.

I dont know anything about J*ws, inform me. Anonymous 01/24/2024 (Wed) 18:06:11 Id: c6ddff No. 856 [Reply]
I'm an orthodox catholic, but as many people now are, dont really go to church etc etc. I dont know anything about j*ws or their belief, all of their events etc. What i do respect is that their church or whatever is strong, with power to influence events and situations. I really wish it burns though.

First Love Anonymous 01/15/2024 (Mon) 15:44:49 Id: f25c93 No. 854 [Reply]
INTRODUCTION: The Book of Ephesians stands out as the only book of the biblical canon whose congregants are spoken to specifically by our Risen Lord Jesus Christ in the Book of Revelation. In Revelation chapter 2, verses 4 and part of 5, Jesus Christ says: “But I have [this] against you, that you have left your First Love. Therefore remember where you have fallen, repent and do the deeds you did at first;” The believers in Ephesus at that time have fallen from their spiritual heights. Jesus called them to repent- change their minds and turn back upwards toward Him and His love towards them! John, one of Jesus’ apostles while Jesus was on earth, was inspired to write this in 1st John chapter 4, verse 9: “In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son [to be] the propitiation for our sins.” Also, in verse 19: “We love, because He first loved us.”

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The truth of why Jesus told us to pay taxes Anonymous 12/03/2023 (Sun) 21:56:01 Id: 08245a No. 847 [Reply]
I don't understand why so many Christians think that Jesus wanted us to pay taxes... I think you've misunderstood what Jesus meant when he told us to give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give unto God what belongs to God. The reason we owe Caesar (government) a piece of our pie in the form of a tax is because we're using his currency... It's the same reason we pay miner fees to use Bitcoin for example. Jesus never told us we had to use Caesar's currency... He was only reiterating the eight commandment since he was in fact the one to first iterate it since he himself is one with his father in Heaven, but you can't steal from the dead either which is why you've gotta pay taxes if you're going to use a currency which is the property of the dead. The reason being is that Caesar is the Lord of the Dead or the Prince of Hell meaning he's got jurisdiction over it. Using his currency means entering his kingdom which means placing yourself under his authority.

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Israel Videos You Need To See!!! Anonymous 11/17/2023 (Fri) 23:30:07 Id: 9c039b No. 843 [Reply]

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List of evidence Anonymous 06/18/2023 (Sun) 19:32:41 Id: 253eb9 No. 718 [Reply]
This link contains one of the largest reference materials for the bible for archaeological, literary, etc. evidence I've seen: https://pastelink.net/2w1ne I think ya'll would benefit from it
This is super nice and convenient
>>718 Someone should highlight particular ones of higher note than others. That's a very very long list.
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This is very helpful God bless You brother.

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Christianity fellow goy 03/20/2021 (Sat) 23:41:23 Id: 000000 No. 21 [Reply]
If you look at the genealogies in the Holy Bible, you find that they are defined through the father; but (((their))) genealogies are through the mother, as were the genealogies of the (((canaanites))), who worshipped moloch/baal/satan, so it is fairly obvious that (((they))) are not the descendants of the children of Jacob/Israel/Whites, but of their worst enemies, children of edomites/esau/reptilians.
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>>96 No citations, I see; however, even if you are correct, it was the DOCTRINE of the Pharisees and Sadducees that was evil, not their race. >"How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees." Matthew 16:11-12 KJV Israel's national transgressions are littered throughout the OT, from Israel himself (Jacob, who deceived his father to steal the birthright) onward. Their purity of race had nothing to do with their holiness or wickedness. Intermarriage may have provided additional temptation/opportunity for wickedness, but before any intermarriage occured, Jacob's sons wickedly deceived and slew the men of Shechem's city (Genesis 34) and sold their innocent brother Joseph into slavery after considering fratricide (Genesis 37)... and this is only the first two generations. >>237 Keep your healthy skepticism about this topic. It draws more crazy theories than anything else, maybe even more than Daniel & Revelation. >>288 >they became modern jews. The purest racial descendants of the ancient Biblical Canaanites are alive today, in modern Lebanon: (disable javascript to view the whole article) https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/dna-from-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews tl;dr: Modern Lebanese are 90%+ Canaanite, Jews and Arabs are 50%+ Canaanite.
>>21 Modern Jews are the mongrlized descendents of Judah of the Bible. Their story begins with Esau, the race mixer twin brother of Jacob, the father of the 12 tribes of Israel. He had a quarrel with Jacob, Jacob fled and in the meantime Esau took canaanites as wifes >1This is the account of Esau (that is, Edom). 2Esau took his wives from the daughters of Canaan: Adah daughter of Elon the Hittite, Oholibamah daughter of Anah and granddaughter of Zibeon the Hivite, 3and Basemath daughter of Ishmael and sister of Nebaioth These and their descendents are the known as the Edomites. Among the Edomites there are the Amelek >12Additionally, Timna, a concubine of Esau’s son Eliphaz, gave birth to Amalek. These are the grandsons of Esau’s wife Adah. which later became the enemy of Israel and are seen as their eternal nemesis. This is who they are, but how did they become known as the Jews, the descendents of Judah and Israel? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom >The Edomites first established a kingdom ("Edom") in the southern area of modern-day Jordan and later migrated into the southern parts of the Kingdom of Judah ("Idumea", or modern-day southern Israel/Negev) when Judah was first weakened and then destroyed by the Babylonians, in the 6th century BC. The original ones were conquered by Babylon and carried away. The Edomites settled there and took things over, and after the original Judahites returned they fought and eventually >They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 BC), who forcibly converted them, among others, to Judaism Notethat "Judaism" isnt here the modern Judaism. Somewhere in the meantime the Pharisee were founded whichs tradition is based on the oral law which became the talmud and very likely was influenced by babylonian teachings the Judahites brought back and is the foundation of modern Judaism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees >The Pharisees preserved the Pharisaical oral law in the form of the satanic bible known as Talmud.
The jews call Europeans esau and amalek and wish to blot out the name of Europe. This is the source of black washing history. This is the source of shitskin migration to white lands. Anti-whitism is encoded into their religion. The anti-white agenda is nothing other than judaism. "wokeism" is nothing other than tikkun olam judaism. Feminism in white countries is tikkun olam and therefore judaism. The androgyny agenda is kabbalistic and therefore judaism. Reminder to all non-jewish, non-Euro gened people as well. Jews are not stopping at white people. Ultimately ALL non- jews are esau/amalek. They only target white people first, primarily, because they are butt hurt about the romans destroying their stupid temple. They will destroy the cultures and genotype and pheno-type of ALL peoples if they are not stopped. Reminder that COMMUNISM is jewish, and so cambodia's khmer rouge was jewish. Vietnam war was jewish. China's one child policy was jewish. Nuking japan was jewish. The transatlantic slave trade was jewish. Ect. TKD. Kikeeeeee...

acts 17:16 Anonymous 12/22/2022 (Thu) 00:54:25 Id: 7d59c5 No. 205 [Reply]
https://biblehub.com/kjv/acts/17.htm >and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; >And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: The second quote makes the first quote in the past, as if an ethnostate is only in olden times, i believe this weakens the idea that God wants an ethnostate.
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>>210 because God decided everything that ever will happen in the past.
>>205 > And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent I believe The Lord is making a point that the gospel is no longer limited to one nation (the Israelites), but is now to be read by all nations. Ethnostates are neither condoned nor condemned by God. The Lord only demands that you treat the foreigner as yourself.
>>569 >The Lord only demands that you treat the foreigner as yourself. So he condemns ethnostates then.

GREAT FALLS IN THE FALL! Anonymous 09/01/2023 (Fri) 04:36:05 Id: fec201 No. 818 [Reply]
The tables are turning against those who devised evil and destruction upon the people whom they should be serving. The very wicked devices they made against the people will now be used against them-- and the evil, demonic forces they have served. = An encouraging Psalm 91: Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler And from the perilous pestilence. He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield and buckler. You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, Nor of the arrow that flies by day, Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness, Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday. === A thousand may fall at your side, And ten thousand at your right hand;

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Anonymous 08/18/2023 (Fri) 17:34:31 Id: 96676e No. 784 [Reply]
Is it true that the ancient Hebrew used in job for Satan's name is not a proper name but a title? It starts at 3:13 - https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4-AwpkMuW4s
Yes, I believe it means something akin to the accuser, doubter, some title that means something akin to "one who stands against God". Which is essentially just a description of him in Job. I forgot the exact phrase. The later attribution of the Satan in Job to the Satan in the New Testament was only done by Jesus or later Jews. Like how the snake in the garden is seen as Satan, though not explicitly mentioned.

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Anonymous 08/20/2023 (Sun) 01:42:06 Id: c6cb8b No. 803 [Reply]
Sooooo... I've been told I'm spiritually detached, but religious is the way of thinking in the future, any of you can come up anything against the reasoning women willing and able to go through with abortion has psychopathic traits, and it is good thing, to the point there would be so many more criminals around social order couldn't be maintained the only thing I can think of is it will hasten God's judgment if outlawed, and that might be a good thing too
>>803 >the reasoning women willing and able to go through with abortion has psychopathic traits I think each woman will receive judgement after life >that might be a good thing too Final judgement will come but at is time, sooner or later
Speaking of psychopathic traits. Or that cluster of behavioral and or moral problems in general. I've always wondered if such people can truly go against who they are, or just destined to fall. Sure, some will genuinely work hard to seek change because they can. But what about the implications behind those that seem so... inherently evil, yet want to show God they're not, even though they will just do terrible things completely on a whim their whole life?

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Anonymous 08/14/2023 (Mon) 05:07:14 Id: 6dfabc No. 771 [Reply]
>>525 Someone isn't reading the Bible. Isaiah 11 11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. You liars who keep lying about the identity of the missing tribes of Israel is why God ill save them themself and send our self rightouness sabbath breaking 10 commandmetn hating liars into hell
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See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. Even though he sought the blessing with tears, he could not change what he had done.

Nancy's detransitioning Anonymous 06/18/2023 (Sun) 21:23:53 Id: c25218 No. 719 [Reply]
Nancy is no longer a trans woman, because evil leftist commies rejected her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6dHCDKzabw It seems transgender communities express undue obsession with political causes instead of well-being of their mentally ill members.

Anonymous 01/05/2023 (Thu) 08:04:31 Id: a39dc1 No. 239 [Reply]
Help me debunk this. >Blomberg starts in on the question of gospel authorship: It's important to acknowledge that strictly speaking, the gospels are anonymous. But the uniform testimony of the early church was that Matthew, also known as Levi, the tax-collector and one of the twelve disciples, was the author of the first gospel in the New Testament; that John Mark, a companion of Peter, was the author of the gospel we call Mark; and that Luke, known as Paul's 'beloved physician,' wrote both the gospel of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles . . . There are no known competitors for [authorship of] these three gospels ... Apparently, it was just not in dispute.7 >Blomberg imagines that the whole delegation was polled, and that no one had any other guesses as to who wrote these gospels. But we don't have everyone's opinions. We are lucky to have what fragments we do that survived the efforts of Orthodox censors and heresiologists to stamp out all 'heretical' opinions. However, we do know of a few differing opinions because Tertullian, Justin Martyr, and others had to take the trouble to (try to) refute them. Marcion knew our Gospel of Luke in a shorter form, which he considered to be the original, and he did not identify it as the work of Luke. He may have imagined that Paul wrote that version. Also, though Blomberg does not see fit to mention it, Papias sought to account for apparent Marcionite elements in the Gospel of John by suggesting Marcion had worked as John's secretary and scribe and added his own ideas to the text, which it was somehow too late for John to root out.8 Similarly, some understood the gospel to be Gnostic (rightly, I think) and credited it to Cerinthus. Blomberg reasons that, had the gospel authorship ascriptions been artificial, better names would have been chosen. >[T]hese were unlikely characters ... Mark and Luke weren't even among the twelve disciples. Matthew was, but as a former hated tax collector, he would have been among the most infamous character next to Judas Iscariot, who betrayed Jesus! Contrast this with what happened when the fanciful apocryphal gospels were written much later. People chose the names of well-known and exemplary figures to be their fictitious authors - Philip, Peter, Mary, James. Those names carried a lot more weight than the names of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. So to answer your question, there would not have been any reason to attribute authorship to these three less respected people if it weren't true.9 In fact, apocryphal (which only means 'not on the official list' for whatever reason) gospels are attributed to such luminaries as Bartholomew, Judas Iscariot, the prostitute Mary Magdalene, doubting Thomas, the heretical Basilides, the even more heretical Valentinus, Nicodemus, and the replacement Matthias. They didn't always go for the star names. > As for the names to whom the canonical gospels were ascribed, it is quite easy to provide an alternate and more natural explanation as to why we have two apostolic names and two sub-apostolic names, though we can bet neither Blomberg nor Strobel will like it very much. First, the initially anonymous gospel we call Matthew was clearly the early church's favorite, and sometimes it circulated without any individual's name, as in its redacted Hebrew and Aramaic versions known to the Church Fathers as the Gospel according to the Hebrews, the Gospel according to the Nazoreans, and the Gospel according to the Ebionites. There are more copies of Matthew that survive in manuscript than any of the other gospels, which means it was used more, much more. The reason for its popularity was its utility: it is framed as a new Christian Pentateuch, organizing Jesus' teaching into five great blocks of teaching, more or less topically. It had been written for the Jewish Christian missionaries of Antioch (in view under the characters of the eleven in Matthew 28, receiving the Great Commission) to use as a church manual. And it served that purpose very well. If your goal was to "disciple the nations," this was the book to use. My guess is that some editor tagged the gospel ' Matthew' based on a pun on the Greek word for 'disciple,' especially prominent in this gospel (e.g., 13:51-52; 28: 19): mathetes. Mark. and Luke are not organized so conveniently. If you have chosen Matthew as your standard, then Luke and Mark are going to suffer by comparison (though no one could deny their great value). And in the early days, before they were considered inspired scriptures, people felt they could make value judgments and rank the gospels. Matthew was the first tier, all by itself. Mark and Luke were placed on the second tier - 'deuterocanonical gospels' so to speak. And that is why these sub­ apostolic names were chosen for them (likely by Poly carp ).10 It is a way of damning them with only faint praise, but not damning them too severely at that. Insofar as they vary from Matthew, they are not quite apostolic. What about the very different John? (Blomberg admits it is quite different; it just doesn't mean anything to him. >They're all eyewitness reporting anyway!)11 It is so different from the others, one would expect it to be named for someone even farther from the apostles. And so it was. The opponents of the Gospel of John, who recognized its largely Gnostic character, claimed it was the work of the heretic Cerinthus. As Bultmann showed, the text has undergone quite a bit of refitting in order to build in some sacramental theology as well as traditionally futuristic eschatology.12 Gnostics rejected both, and so did 'John' originally, though such passages are now diluted by added material. Polycarp (or someone like him) dubbed the newly sanitized gospel John, intending the apostolic name as a counterblast against the charge that the book was heretical and thus should remain outside the canon. This is exactly the same sort of overcompensation we see in the same time period among Jews who debated the canonicity of the racy Song of Solomon (Song of Songs, Canticles, etc.). The book does not mention God. It seems to embody old liturgies of Tammuz and Ishtar, and it is sexually explicit. Thus some pious rabbis thought it had no business being considered scripture. The response was to declare it an allegory of the divine love for Israel and to make it especially sacred: "The whole Torah is Holy, but The Song of Songs is the Holy of Holies" (Rabbi Akiba). So you think it is profane, do you? Well, in that case: it's especially holy! In the same way a gospel suspected to be Cerinthian becomes a second fully apostolic gospel. Blomberg is as captive to the scribal traditions of his community as the ancient rabbis were when they named Moses as the author of the Pentateuch and the Book of Job: And interestingly, John is the only gospel about which there is some question about authorship . . . The name of the author isn't in doubt- it's certainly John . . . The question is whether it was John the apostle or a different John.13 It's certainly John? Blomberg's exegesis is narrowly sectarian and insular, almost as if we were reading Mormon or Jehovah's Witness scholarship. To anyone even vaguely familiar with modem New Testament scholarship Blomberg's claims are startlingly off-base. If you take a poll of Sunday School teachers and fundamentalist Bible Institute faculty, you will no doubt come up with such a conclusion. But among real scholars, conservative and liberal, the authorship question, as with the closely-related question ofthe identity ofthis gospel's 'Beloved Disciple' character, is wide open. And as for this business about John the son of Zebedee versus another John, this is all derived from Eusebius' remarks on the famous Papias passage, just below, in which Eusebius imagined he saw mention of two different Johns, the apostle John and the Elder John.
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>>389 >Because they were written by different people with different viewpoints? That is something to notice about unbelievers' attacks on the bible it's damned if you do damned if you don't, if the gospels are similar to each other then that apparently means they're just copying from each other and there's no eyewitness testimony, and if they're different from each other then that means they're just editing each other and there's no eyewitness testimony
>>393 What's also annoying is the assumption that absolutely no one, in the past two millennia, ever questioned if the text in the Bible is genuine. Hell, that was part of the point behind Constantine demanding fifty Bibles, and the Council of Laodicea. In the former, he wanted to distribute Christ's genuine gospel for the people to read and learn. And, the latter was even the bishops of the time doubting if what they read was genuine and taking it upon themselves, for several decades, to read through all of the different texts proclaiming to be the the words of Christ and his disciples. Trying to find the originals, the copies, the condensed, and the forgeries/heretical fakes. And, definitively declare which books are canon and which are not. Was the processes absolutely perfect? No, as evidenced by the schisms that happened with the Eastern churches, and later bishops questioning the decisions made. However, that's ironically the Bible's strength. People were always able to question the authenticity of what was written, and able to take it upon themselves to discover if what was written was the genuine article (Even more so today given how widely and easily available the manuscripts are).

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I'm not a Christian Anonymous 05/01/2023 (Mon) 15:09:54 Id: b5f550 No. 427 [Reply]
Nor do I have any other religious form of belief. I can't bring myself to have religious faith, Neither does my wife. We tried, though. Before we met, we tried very ahrd to believe. I was a christian for most of my life, she gave up ab about 12. So, that's how it is. Some people tells me that I should ask God for faith, or for signs, or something else that will help me believe, but I hope you see why that makes no semse, right?
I had little faith, what helped me was having a spiritual experience with God, i went to a Christian retreat and there i went to church three times a day and had pastors praying over me, and i was full of the Holy Sprit. There are other ways to be full of the Holy Spirit like singing the Psalms over and over until you feel the presence of the Holy Spirit.
>>428 I've done all those things already, except going to church three times a day. As I said, I really, really tried. When I lost my faith and my belief in God I wasn't happy about it, and I really felt like I was failing and needed to become a Christian again and be even stronger in the faith than before, so I tried everything you just said, except I don't go to church as much as you did. I went a lot, though. Nothing really happened.
>>430 How many times did you sing the Psalms? Because i have to sing a lot to feel the presence of the Holy Spirt. I would say join some assembly of Christians (not just a church) and participate in their ministry activities, there you will see God "speak" to them in their lives, some bizarre coincidences might come to you from God, like it did with me. It could also be that your sin has separated you slightly from God or you have opened doors to spirits that are not of God, do you watch porn? Also reading the Bible is how you will understand everything you need to know about God.

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