Here's an archive for the Injustice news. Not even a trailer announcement proper. But saying that the blu-ray for Batman The Long Halloween will include a trailer for Injustice. https://archive.md/kNvHc

>>13110 >"Superman but evil" >being the newest cape trend Not THAT new, really. It's just seeing another resurgence. Superman is the best of the best, but people can't help but wonder what the kind of power in the wrong hands would be like. I found Brightburn interesting if only because of how fucking creepy the kid actor was through the whole thing and how it seemed to insinuate Brandon would have been just like Clark if the ship hadn't overwritten his mental software and made him a psychopath. But you're right, it's time to retire it for another 10 years or so.

>>13114 It's fine when it's a niche "what if" kind of idea but it's become way too oversaturated. Hell, Snyder has practically made it the mainstream idea of Superman now. Can't be a hero with actual moral virtues. No no he has to kill his enemies, including the innocent babies of his dying race, & possibly turn full evil puppet over the death of some ugly old bitch. I liked Brightburn too but I'm not gonna act like it isn't part of the problem.

>>13116 >Can't be a hero with actual moral virtues Nope. I wonder why?

>>13118 Ironic the jews greatest enemy is the jews.

>>13110 >>13114 >>13116 For all these people who like to create subversive stories, how about making one about a good Clark Kent raised by good parents who struggle in cynical world? Once he grows up, Clark would decide to become a Superman in hopes of making world a little brighter, to inspire and save people. The story would be focused on dangers of pessimism, working for better tomorrow, and half-full vs half-empty view of the world. Everything made today is just so cynical and bogged down by negativity. Something good and fun is needed for a change.

>>13126 >Once he grows up, Clark would decide to become a Superman in hopes of making world a little brighter, to inspire and save people.

>>13126 An actual hopeful superhero story played straight? Impossible in this modern age.

>>13126 Sounds boring and lame. How about superman but he's black so he gets racially profiled?

>>13132 >Sounds boring and lame. How about superman but he's black so he gets racially profiled? I know you're joking, but... <Daily reminder that black Superman is the most retarded premise ever invented. You can have him in white or light Asian; you absolutely cannot have him so full of melanin that he can't actually ABSORB SUNLIGHT, HIS POWER SOURCE. You can (but shouldn't) have black Batman, Plastic Man, Wonder Woman, etc. until the cows come home, but NOT Superman. And the sooner kike related is finally shown the door, the better.

One specific trope that I find irritating is the comics/cartoons marketing to only a family audience: little to no mature themes allowed (unless it agrees with (((our))) politics). It's likely the most ongoing trend for decades, and the fact that it still makes shekels, pandemic aside, means that it's still going on for years to come. It's likely the sole reason why there's little to no cartoon harems nor any animated films with a dark fantasy (that's not made in Japan). Animated war films, and cartoons with sexy fanservice (not the nostalgic kind) are a rarity partially due to this, and limited to only to maybe the arthouse fags. Sure, there's plenty of great things that have been found with children's cartoons and comics, but does it have to be only from such a limited, spergy demographic?

>>13140 It's a very western mindset. Cartoons are for children & must always appeal to children first. If it's made for adults then it's incredibly immature & made by the scum of the earth.

>>13110 Tropes that piss me off? Pics related. I'm sick to fucking death of men being portrayed as absolute retards and women portrayed as long-suffering intelligent goddesses.

>>13142 If women are so smart, why do their series keep failing hard & continue to kill the comic industry? Also you never hear from gay men saying all men are the worst. Really makes you think.

>>13141 I should've been clear that this sentiment has been that way for western animation more than comics. The Comics Code Authority might have fucked it all up, but there was some market of adults (or actually teens) that have an interest besides children (maybe even to this day). Animated works overall still have this due to the way TV's Standards & Practices and the film equivalent. The fact that most of the studios that produce it in major cities like California or New York (and often outsourced to Korea) also don't help due to their political beliefs. Even independent companies like Skybound Entertainment ape the Hollywood approach with Invincible, despite having a TV-MA rating. It doesn't help that fans of animation (and maybe animators) barely notice this (unless there's a minority getting the short end of the stick).

>>13145 With comics, usually the worst of normalfags like parents just think "Oh they're obviously made for kids" without a second thought. Because no one actually reads comics beyond the niche audience. I guess I should say that in the past tense since no one reads capeshit comics anymore but grifters that just watch Amazon & HBO shows. Point is the common outlook of what comics are among the ignorant masses is the complete opposite of the shitty reality. If comics were actually made for kids, we'd actually get some good stuff. Stuff that actually embraces camp & isn't embarrassed by it.

>>13145 >The Comics Code Authority might have fucked it all up At least they kept all the Weimar out of it for a few decades.

>>13140 What really pisses me off about the "mature" cartoons is their cattle that always react like this: >Woah, it's time for your 0 year old children to get introduced to complex topics >lmao, look at the boomers complaining >TRANS RIGHTS >Adults are just children with bigger bodies >Grow up <Yikes, you edgelord! Go back to cuckchannel, asshole. >>13144 If women are so smart then why they're stuck at dead end jobs like Marvel and DC? >>13147 >Infantilize the IP well known for having mature topics, instead of coming up with something original. A fate worse than beating the dead horse.

>>13149 >mature topics Making something that's for kids doesn't necessarily mean removing dark elements. Besides, nothing matters in current comics. No matter how dark or "mature" they get. Death doesn't matter. History doesn't matter. Universes are rebooted, erased, retconned, or destroyed. It's not a battle of whether something should be made for mature audiences or not. It's just a fact that there's a better track record for media all ages can enjoy compared to the media made specifically for adults. Or are you going to tell me you want more Harley Quinn the series?

>>13110 When it comes to capeshit, I am tired of flying bricks and fights that are punching matches or energy beam spams. There are so many other interesting superpowers and inventive ways to use them, but so many writers use them in dull ways. It's also annoying that so many writers can't write a story that does not devolve into boring slog where problems are solved by punching. It applies mainly to Americans, but mangakas are not entirely guilt free either. Europeans tend to be the best at avoiding this pitfall. There is nothing wrong with fight scenes, but make them meaningful or interesting to look at. >>13145 >>13148 If old timers like Chuck Dixon and Darwyn Cooke are to be believed, CCA is only one part of the issue. Another component are cape fanboys who made their way into comic book companies and later on into management. DC and Marvel used to have more diverse portfolios, but fanboys started to direct all resources towards their favorite capes in 70s and 80s. They also worked towards squeezing other companies out of the market to make more room for capes. >>13144 >Also you never hear from gay men saying all men are the worst. Really makes you think. It's just fetishism of gay men that some women engage in. Wannabe fag-hags want female friends in a male body, to reap benefits of both without any downsides or expectations. Interestingly enough, people complaining about how minorities are misportrayed or certain groups fetishized, do not complain about how fag-hags and yaoishits portray gay men.

>>13160 American artists can't do fight scenes well because they don't have the same philosophy as mangaka. With manga, every action has motion to it shown through the drawings. You feel the weight behind every fight because the norm is to give you that sense of motion. With american capeshit it's just panel to panel with no inbetween motion to establish what's happening.

>>13161 > every action has motion to it shown through the drawings Anon, that's the basic fundamental for all drawing. Its not exclusive to Japan, capeshit is limited by page count and lazy/shit storyboarders.

>>13162 >>13163 Yes but we're talking comics here. American capeshit comics lack this kind of fundamental necessity in action.

>>13164 >American capeshit comics lack this There's been millions of issues made, go be a retard and cherry pick.

>>13165 I can't even begin to understand what you're saying. >>13167 Could just say cal-arts. Because this is every cal-arts show.

>>13110 Sometimes the evil Supes are well thought out. Sometimes they're not. To me, it all depends on where they're trying to go with their "evil Superman" fan characters. >>13140 Gone are the days of kid's cartoons pushing the bar/winking at adults in the room with their subtle adult humor. It's all got to be watered down and chock full of morals like promoting equality, the LGBT narrative, and all that other nonsense to shove down the viewer's throat. >>13151 I'm thinking anon is referring to adult animated cartoons, which are somewhat like that. >>13151

>>13110 I cant stand the deconstructed shit either. In fact I can't even consider watching that sort of thing given the One Punch Man exist which perfectly deconstructs capeshit AND shonen and then immediately reconstructs it and distills it back down to something great. >>13114 If you think about it Brightburn is just Dragonball if Goku hadn't fallen on his head.

>>13151 >Or are you going to tell me you want more Harley Quinn the series? I was having a good day until you mentioned that VB knockoff riddled with STD, thanks.

>>13116 >No no he has to kill his enemies, including the innocent babies of his dying race, That doesn't happen. He has the DNA of his dying race and refuses to terraform earth and conquer it so he can reseed it with that DNA. Very different from killing babies.

>>13285 The babies were literally growing in the machine as he destroys it.

>>13288 >The babies were literally growing in the machine as he destroys it. So you're saying that the 80's Predator has more respect for innocent life than Snyder Superman does? Fucking wonderful. I hope Discovery puts DC in the media oubliette. At least movie/tv DC anyway.

>>13289 All Discovery is going to do is have the heroes and villains fighting and shouting amongst themselves. Workplace conflict will be the theme for it all.

>>13289 Yep. Paul Blart 1 & 2 does more to show how Blart is not a killer than Zack Snyder does for Superman.

>>13171 >uppity black gets punished for stepping to a human I fully endorse this version of Superiorman

>>13171 >wall-eyed on the cover gr8 start

>>13110 >Development and progress on the characters. <Next clip. >It all resets and pretend that never happened. <Writers are still flexing they're Harvard's graduates. Can you guess the show's name?

>>13364 Futurama?

>>13110 I don't mind if others do these kind of stories. I do mind that they're doing it with movie Superman - the version of the character that gets the most exposure. In 10 years, normies will probably think this is what Superman's character is like (if they don't already).

>>13569 Normies already do. There's way too fucking many normalnigger snyder cultists on twitter that worship the ground he walks on.

>>13570 >Normies Its normalfag ya fucking retard.

>>13573 Shut up faggot.

>>13576 Don't use Cuckchan talk if you don't want to be bullied.

>>13570 >>13573 >>13576 >>13592

>>13364 >the show will eventually reach 40 seasons ngl that's impressive.

>>13114 >People can't help but wonder what the kind of power in the wrong hands would be like. General Zod. These people just write these stories because they think it makes them smart.

>>13110 Many comic editorials fell into victimhood for this: >Continuity shits itself into an incoherent mess >Writer gains a fragile ego because of his league of yes-men once he struck gold <Goes full on Chris Chan mocking anyone who questions his retarded logic <Questions why comics will never be real literature >>13140 Only lewd stuff is allowed as long the trannies get their hands on it and come out with the most disgusting shit that only cater to their terminal online kind.

>>13594 Gainax died for this >>40166 When the majority of episodes is just slop for the consumers just to keep their mouths shut.

>>40167 >People can't help but wonder what the kind of power in the wrong hands would be like. >General Zod. And by my count, we have at least four versions of General Zod in the mainstream DCU, as well as four Ultramans, and four Bizarros. Plus all the other Phantom Zone criminals, and the occasional villain who is a Daxamite or some other alien that just has extremely similar powers to Superman. Or stories where a guy like Parasite steals Superman's powers. Plus other alt-universe Supermans like Overman. I'm sure I'm forgetting plenty of other examples. When they just have Superman and call him Superman but make him evil, and don't even make a reference to Ultraman, it tells me they're just casuals who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. And yes, I know about The Justice Lords, and that version was pretty good, but Injustice and the other stories OP is complaining about are not that. They're just for idiots who think they're doing an original concept even though it was first done in like 1963, if not earlier. Hell, Siegel and Schuster's original Superman was a villain, before they ever came up with Clark Kent. But he was at least different enough that, fine, I won't count it. But that's me being generous.

>>13110 I think the concept of a "trope" in itself needs to fucking die. Ever since normalfags and REddit midwits learned that word the quality of media discourse went from rock bottom to fast tunneling to the planet's core.

>>13142 Ironically that could be considered an outdated trope since it was rooted on gender segregated schools: >Men were being taught on rough experiences >Women were being taught on trivial shit Apparently knowing how to cook, sew and laundry is rocket science while building houses, plumbing or electricity is plain hillbilly caveman acknowledge. There's the fact that women manipulate emotionally to get what they want, apparently that's considered worthy of a chess-master.

>>40175 They used to just be called cliches but I blame TVTropes for fagging up the discourse.

You have talk the exact same shit for like 3 years

>>40181 It's like the entertainment geniuses stagnate into mediocrity and refuse to improve, always go for the easy path and gain their rock bottom redditors to defend their pretentious hour and half commercials.

>>40193 This it's not going to stop or change, not anymore

>I have evidence that will prove I was framed & who the guilty parties are! I won't make any copies whatsoever or share it with the public, I will instead haul the only physical copy with me to show to someone who is my friend but thinks I am guilty, to prove to them I am innocent! >Oh shit they brought their allies along & now my only copy of this evidence was destroyed before anyone could see it! It's a cheap manner to artificially extend the story.

>>13364 >character backstories set in certain era >series lasts & lasts but characters never age >has to backpedal & retcon backstories to a later era to make up for it Or just >series goes on for a long time but no one ages

>>40249 >>13364 >Simpsons has gone on for so long that Homer has been retconned into being born at the time Bart would have been when the series first aired. >Grandpa Simpson went from being a WW1 vet to a WW2 vet, to now almost replacing Skinner as the Vietnam vet. >Skinner might get retconned into being a fucking Gulf War or even 2003 Iraq war vet What happens when you don't let shows die.

>>40270 >>40249 They could have dealt with this by just making Springfield permanently 1990s in a sort of Brigadoon fashion with the world around them going on as usual. Like that would be the easiest way to deal with this kind of situation in general. Where's there's change from outside that leaks in in bits but the foundation is static in time. Why does no one ever do this?

>>40295 >Why does no one ever do this? A few reasons I can think of. It restricts the writers in what they can make an episode about. Due to the show eternally taking place in the 1990's, they cannot make any references or direct simularities to events, people, content that has been made since 2000. So any "recent" jokes about Batman would be in regards to the Batnipples instead of Baneposting. Only two Jurassic Park movies exist. There never was a nigger president. The WTC towers never fell. The only game console that can connect to the internet is the Sega Dreamcast. VHS tapes were still in widespread use. You get the idea. It doesn't matter if Springfield is the only place that exists in the 1990's because that still requires an entirely different mindset compared to literally everywhere else. They probably could keep up the charade for the first decade of the Aughts, but you'd end up getting farther and farther removed from the original material to where writing about the 1990's in the 2010's would feel almost alien. Not to mention that you then encounter the problem of not trying to repeat the same story that you already did years ago. Another reason is that people tend to have some sort of "pride" over living in the 2020's compared to 30 years ago despite the fact that very little has quite honestly changed. Drop someone from the 1990's into the 2020's and they wouldn't be that impressed with modern tech. Yes, we have toys like the smartphone, but they would just see it as the natural evolution of the PDA. Yes, you can instantly buy something from anywhere in the world and have it shipped directly to your front door, but Apple was already heavily advertising the internet and e-commerce with the iMac back in 1998. Yes, they would be blown away by how amazingly "real" computers can generate graphics, but they still lack the quality of practical effects and video games are an even more of a hollow shell. So the one hand is that you have people who have increasingly little attachement to the original work as people eternally change, and the other is a spiralling depression that society really hasn't evolved over the past 30 years.

>>40249 >>has to backpedal & retcon backstories to a later era to make up for it The smart thing to do is just not acknowledge it and let the audience just roll with it. If I watch The Simpsons and I see that Bart was a baby when the finale of MASH was airing, I can understand that Bart is ten years old and the episode took place (with its framing device) in 1993, so when they flashed back to ten years ago it was 1983. An episode from a year later takes place in 1994, and I can accept that characters haven't aged a year just because a year has passed for me. This isn't hard to grasp, and it takes a very particular form of autism to be autistic enough to be bothered by it but not autistic enough to not be able to figure it out. Also, I find it funny that people bring it up in reference to The Simpsons. I get it, because The Simpsons is popular, but it's also a show where the story doesn't matter very much. You don't have to worry about the fact that Grampa fought in WWI, then WWII, then WWII but he was only a baby who lied about his age, because it's just occasional jokes now and then. It would be a lot worse if it was a show that expected you to follow continuity. Like they did the episode in like 2009 where they flash back to the '90s, before Bart was born, and yes it's silly, but I don't see why people had to get up in arms about it. Good episode? No. But it's not hard to wrap your head around what they were doing. On the other hand, you have comics where characters have backstories intricately tied with WWII, and they do expect you to actually appreciate that and think about it a lot. I appreciate that by the '90s they did actually start killing off a lot of the Justice Society and All-Star Squadron guys (really this started in the '70s and '80s), even if mostly the less popular ones. But then they tried to pull magic sci-fi shit to keep the popular ones alive. Then they had Alan Scott come out of the closet when he was literally 100 years old, in-universe. So yeah, would have been better to let him die back with Madame Fatale or whatever. Also it's even more fucked since they wanted others like Superman and Batman to still be young, but then that's a whole thing particular to DC being retarded. >>40270 >>Simpsons has gone on for so long that Homer has been retconned into being born at the time Bart would have been when the series first aired. If Bart was 10 when the first Simpsons short aired in 1987, then he'd be born in 1977. Homer's age has actually increased over time, he has technically aged, but he's always been in his 30s. Let's say he's 40 now (I haven't watched in over ten years, so maybe he's aged more, not that I want to count the new episodes). That would mean he was born in 1984. Current Homer was born at least 7 years after original Bart. >>40295 Nobody does that because it's too autistic. You think it's simpler, but it's not. The simplest thing is to just not acknowledge it, or if you do ever acknowledge it, only rarely and jokingly. When you're dealing with a sitcom, especially a cartoon one that rarely relies on continuity, that makes sense. Drawing attention to small details, even in attempts to fix them, can often make things worse than just ignoring them. To go back to my Justice Society example, what's really simpler? Alan Scott being de-aged by his magic ring, and by being trapped in alternate dimensions for millennia, and by fighting time travellers like Per Degaton, all to try to keep it "making sense" that he fought in WWII, or is it simpler just to have Superman, who started fighting crime "about 15 years ago" relative to whenever the current story takes place? Drawing attention to it makes it a lot more confusing in most cases. I am precisely the type of person to get autistic over details like this, but the fact that I'm autistic enough to understand them is why I understand why you shouldn't always acknowledge them. Actually, I just remembered the best example, Sonic the Hedgehog comics. Why is Sonic an anthropomorphic animal if Robotnik and others are humans? The games just don't acknowledge it. It's a cartoon, and in this cartoon, some people are animals. The comics did acknowledge it. They said that the games take place in the far distant future, and in our near-future, nuclear war wipes out humanity, then out of the new primordial ooze, anthropomorphic animals like Sonic evolved, and so did cartoony-looking humans like Robotnik, and the realistic-looking humans (actually anime-looking) from some other Sonic games were descendants of survivors who hid under a mountain for millions of years. Now is that really better than just not acknowledging it at all, and trusting your audience to understand that it's a cartoon? I personally don't think so.

>>40299 >>40299 >Only two Jurassic Park movies exist. >There never was a nigger president. >The WTC towers never fell. >The only game console that can connect to the internet is the Sega Dreamcast. >VHS tapes were still in widespread use. God how I want to go back.