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Onegezellig Thread. Anonymous 07/06/2021 (Tue) 07:32:06 No. 14858
A short German or dutch? indie cartoon made by studio massa. A slice of life cartoon about a Tomoko expy and her roommates Coco, a tech literate white African & Mymy Nip with grandiose aspiration that with a distain for anime and JP culture.
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Episodes 1 - 3.
>>14858 That's Dutch, I know because I can understand German and listening to that made me feel drunk. Which is essentially what Dutch as a language is.
>>14861 Also Germans can't draw.
>>14871 There's already a translation available on youtube on the Closed Captions provided by the creator.
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>>14869 Nein, Germans draw very well.
what?
>>14886 >what? What?
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>>14887 >>what? >What? In the butt.
>>14859 can subtitles be embedded in webms?
>>14889 They can but I have no idea how to do that but the function is there.
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>>14890 lets see if ffmpeg -i "Ongezellig (Deel 1 + 2).mp4" -i "Ongezellig (Deel 1 + 2)-English.srt" -c:v copy -c:a copy -c:s mov_text -metadata:s:s:0 language=eng -disposition:s:0 default movie-sub.mp4 works
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>>14892 nope, the player that we have can't into subtitles, im going to request that on /site/ also posting episode 3 using the same method for when the subtitle feature gets added
>>14888 <--- Heiled
>>14889 They can. But I don't really see why are you talking about subbing it since there's already a lot of fansubs of this thing out there. >>14858 Coco is boer and IIRC Maya is indonesian. The joke is that the sisters came from different ex dutch colonies. I wonder which other characters from ex dutch colonies would appear in future episodes but honestly I'm more worried about how slowly Masa produces the show. Like it's nothing complex, it mostly uses limited animation and slow pace but still they produces like one five minutes episode every six months or so.
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>>14986 I just want more at this point
>>14986 >The joke is that the sisters came from different ex dutch colonies Does that include the Ginger? since I remember reading about there being a fairly sizeable Dutch community around Nagasaki and those areas in Japan.
>>16571 Her birth certificate says she was born in Amsterdam. She's just a massive fucking weeaboo, much like the Dutch who traded with the nipponese.
>>16571 The dutch east indies company indeed had ports on Japan, but I think it's more similar to this >>16577 I wonder why he chose jokes about the dutch east indies company in specific, well, outside from he being a dutch, sounds like a very specific and obscure topic (that only very dedicated history autists would even start to understand) for a cartoon about slice of life of three sisters.
>>16606 I am willing to bet money he was an avid Dutch /his/ shitposter, on cuckchannel or a European imageboard.
>>16577 >birth certificate says she was born in Amsterdam Because in my dossier it says Nagasaki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsvg_WatcaE&t=37s Uploaded a clip and subs for en and nl
>>16760 can't upload text files here? [English] Ongezellig - Deel 3 [DownSub.com].srt https://pastebin.com/qBSpEwTZ [Dutch (auto-generated)] Ongezellig - Deel 3 [DownSub.com].srt https://pastebin.com/m86ceY14
Coco: "Okay guys! Statement one: 'smoking on the schoolyard should be forbidden.' MAYA!" Maya: "Y-YES?! Ah, uh... Well... I-If-If we s-simply make a spot exclusively for smokers t-then... Then smokers can sit together... T-That way the others won't be bothered by it etc... I-If they want to of course haha" Coco: "Okay! Mym-" Mymy: "Interesting point! Unfortunately, you're a Belgian." Sign: "Coco's debate club"
Dutch people are pretty cool.
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>>17488 The Dutch are scum.
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New Ongezellig leak, preview #3 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x846o96 Password: Massa I couldn't figure out how to download it from the site unfortunately.
>>17786 Animation has improved considerably
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>>17786 I've had downloaded, just put it on jdownloader 2.
Extended leak preview.
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Episode 4 of Ongezellig just came out today. Link: https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=YAMbQoArGSo
oh hey, I like these, and it came out yesterday apparently so thanks for the heads up
>>18459 Yes, I was waiting for this
>>18459 If I ever have a sexual emergency, I want Maya to be next to me.
>>14986 I think it is because there are a lot of Indonesian and South Asian people living in the Netherlands, and Maya represents them.
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The classmates don't appear for long, but we're getting bits of personality out of them. I gave them numbers to keep track of them. 4 sits next to Mymy. They get along. 5 is always reading a book. That seems to be her thing. 6 must be Kiki of the Piraten Club. I like her. Everyone noticed the stoner chick 8. 7 is her friend and gives her a ride home. 12 looks like an adult. He's dressed like a member of Kiki's club. I have to wonder if he's her dad or something silly like that. I don't know what 17 is supposed to be, but that hat is a reference to something. 18 looks like Fonzie from Happy Days.
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>>21965 Yeah, pretty much. I like that they're not just stick figures and we might see them doing something in the future. I'm not the only one who likes Kiki. Here's some fanart from BombsAhoy on Newgrounds.
Note that the pirate party is an actual political party in Europe.
>>22290 What's their MO?
>>22307 Copyright and patent law reform, freedom of information, greater right to internet privacy for citizens, freedom of speech, and net neutrality. The US Pirate Party, for example, has repeatedly called for the complete repeal of the DMCA and wants to limit copyright to just twenty years before a work enters the public domain.
>>22315 How well are they doing?
>>22316 They make up about 5% of the EU parliament, but that's MPs from several nation's pirate parties. In terms of individual nations, the most successful countries are the Czech Republic (22 seats), Iceland (10 seats), and Spain (6 seats) In the US the pirate party has won some local elections, and in states like Oregon they've even had members elected to the state legislature, but other than that they haven't had any national success due to the "winner take all" nature of American elections
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EPISODE 5 Is out today on daily motion! https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x87l831 Password: Massa Talk about a gut punch on Coco's parents.
>>22841 Thank you, I love the show. If only we didn't have to wait several months for less than five minutes each.
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>>21945 The stoner chick has the frisian flag motive on her leggins, I wonder if Massa is planning to do something with that. >12 looks like an adult He kinda reminds me Tooticky from Moomins.
>>22908 Im surprised they haven't gotten offers for a full series yet.
>>23425 Who would air it?
>>23446 Streaming service most defiantly.
>>14858 They officially posted the Deel 5 now https://youtu.be/J9j78BNAlBg >To be concluded It seems Deel 6 will be the last episode of the "pilot season", so it's up to Massa to pitch this project in a not distant future
>>24337 Any national streaming service or TV channel that would take it? I sure as fuck don't want any Amishitter hands touching this and I don't think Massa does either.
>>24380 How do European cartoons typically get a budget? The only Euro country that comes to mind that produces successful cartoons is France.
Test
>>24515 And?
>>24517 It failed.
>>21945 17 is a stereotypical Dutch outfit. Like Antje.
>>14859 3:08 Pearl Jam reference?
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>>24962 >3:08 Pearl Jam reference? Yep.
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>>24337 >To be concluded I wonder how they'll expand it if they do get picked up.
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Deel 6 is out
>>29638 About time.
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Well I guess it was fun while it lasted. The animation was interesting despite it being pretty damn short all together. Wished that Belgian Tomoko tried to come out of her shell at least a little.
This shit is suddenly recommended to my algorithm, is this the same case as with clone high?
they'll make more right.. right?
>>29674 They're trying for a streaming service so there might be some hope.
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The Deed Is Done >>>/v/722094 Season 2 when? >>14885 >Nein, Germans draw very well. Got any sexy schematics/diagrams of the Mauser C96? >>29650 >Well I guess it was fun while it lasted. The animation was interesting despite it being pretty damn short all together. Wished that Belgian Tomoko tried to come out of her shell at least a little. And end up with a Yuri harem BUT in the most boring way imaginable? Nah, things can always be worse anon.
>>18459 Damn, look at those roots
Upzellig
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>>18459 >Austim Denial Disorder
I watched this for the first time this week, it's so fucking good that I am gonna donate to their dutch patreon
>>14858 There's an English "dub" of Ongezellig generated with A.I. the voices match pretty well so far minus the A.I. stuttering. https://invidious.privacydev.net/watch?v=Vkgjl0WELko&t=59s
>>35829 >Dub It's shit
>>35850 It's AI generated, just like your post,.
>>35851 Good one, you got me good
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>>35902 >>35903 >>35904 Breddy cute Got any more?
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>>35906 They're from the past month, people have probably seen these older ones.
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'zelligbros massa just released this in his paywalled content collection what did he mean by this?
>>36059 Average soyjak.pedo user
Ever since I saw this, I've watched it regularly. I wish there was more. It's so refreshing compared to American and Japanese animation. I wish eurofags had a real animation industry and Massa's teaching job falls through so he can make Onegezellig full time like he said he would. >>22316 The Pirate Party doesn't do well compared to other parties, but it's vocal enough to be common knowledge, hence the Pirate Club having posters everywhere but no tassels taken. >>36059 I hope it means another season, but it's probably Massa shitposting.
>>36219 Europeans have a real animation industry.
>>36222 Nigga where?
>>36223 France mostly
>>29650 >Belgian Tomoko tried to come out of her shell at least a little It was only the first episode, despite the different EDs. I expect her to make her first friend at the end of the season if a full season is ever made.
>>36223 Half of their industry is located in france, I suggest you to check the cartoln forum to know what they are doing; which is a annual investment event: https://www.cartoon-media.eu/forum/ There's also a similar event but for animated movies. I'm currently watching Vikingskool on FraceTV and it's pretty good. That being said, I highly doubt Massa could get investment from there, at least without watering down a lot of show's humor. IIRC, the whole project's point was to develop a pilot to show to potential inverstors so he might try that some day
>>36240 >>36254 Vikingskool isn't fully French. It's co-produced with Irish studio Cartoon Saloon. They have an industry sure but not an actively successful one outside of France. Because most movies & shows don't get official english translations. Sometimes they do but it's only dubs. It's the same with Mexico.
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Update: Coco lost to Ty Lee by one vote in round 2 of Ms. /co/ Brutal
>>36493 Those things are all rigged anyway. They do nothing to curb spam votes.
Has Massa posted any more illustrations of the Onegezelligs? >>29655 Massa said in an interview that Onegezellig is a passion project that spiraled out of control due to work but would be made consistently using donations, which he would also live off of, if he ever lost his job. Unfortunately, the payment platform he uses is Dutch. This is intentional because his target audience is Dutch and the site allows the use of iDeal, an almost universal payment service in the Netherlands, while Patreon does not due to its niche nature outside of the nation and international banking problems (because iDeal taps directly into ones bank account rather than a proxy carrying personal information like a card and was recently acquired by an extension of the EB, which itself is an extension of the EU, to handle basically all banking and transactions within the Union sometime in the future). Since he works in public broadcasting, he'll never be out of a job unless there are mass layoffs or someone forces his firing through a scandal or targeted campaign or he quits due to wage stagnation or some other force. He could hitch himself to some European streaming service, but the options for that are pretty slim and have their own problems. Onegezellig is a hard sell to streaming services because it's animated, low budget, culture-specific, and not meant for children. He might be able to get it on one of the nation's four streaming services, but those streaming services are only available in the Netherlands.
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>>22841 But also hinted the great replacement happening at South Africa, ape escape. >>36493 She should throw out the opposite voters from a window as a revengeful act.
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>>36521 I'm glad he stayed off patreon and isn't pandering to Amerisharts.
>>36493 She defected from South Africa and still got replaced. >>36588 Having the girls make references to Hitler really caught me off guard, specially with that thick Dutch accent.
>>36573 I think this might have been something shitposted about somewhere else, but I wonder if Coco's parents really were killed by niggers. She's from South Africa, and it wouldn't be abnormal for them to have been farmers. This must be a landmine for Massa because he would have to address it eventually in a real series due to the importance of their absence to the character. Of course, he could dodge this by having Mymy say the first syllable of "zwartjoekel" (an extremely Dutch and dated way of saying "nigger" rather than the modern and more American neger and nikker) before Coco interrupts her with another reason. >>36588 I'm glad he isn't too.
Someone broadcast part of Deel 1 in Times Square. https://inv.vern.cc/watch?v=zPio6_ObPW8
>>36644 >Tell the truth <Through a visual gag It could work, Coco obliviously debunking Mymy that her parents had a falling out with some black folks and the fact that it looked like an anti-white crime was just a mere coincidence. Alluding to South Africans being a lost cause
I wonder how much it would cost to have an ad for Ongezellig at the Shibuya Scramble or Akihabara.
New Amsterdam's Times Square had another Ongezellig ad from the same guy. The next one will be the 16th of November if things go right, and Deel 7 is rumored to be in production.
>>36828 Deel 7 will be exclusively funded by soyjak.party!
>>37259 >she will never make you beg for your life for every time your bring up the massacres at South Africa >she will never make out with you right after she tried to throw you out of the window a few moments early >she will never burst into tears on your shoulder while reminiscing the apartheid era >she will never cuddle with you because you don't look like a threatening ape thus making her feel protected <you will never watch together the downfall of Africa as a whole from a safe distance <you will never impregnate her and outnumber (((them)))
>>37299 This anon is right.
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tranny janny deleted a remoralization post anyways >>37299 you're gonna make it or something like that
>>36906 underrated
>>37308 You were deleted because you posted wojak cancer.
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>>37308 Well shit, I guess the greentext listing would still make sense if you screencap it and edit it replying to other posts.

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Posting my fanart here cuz it´s the only ongezeliing tread that i´ve found
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>>37323 You sound like an outraged soccer mom.
>>37326 >gem Back to the sharty.
>>37320 I like your art, anon.
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>>37466 Here you have more, then.
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Fuck it, just uploading full image and some extra
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This popped in my head while i was in the shower and couldn't getting it out of my mind so heres it, i hoped you all like the art and sorry for any broken english Maya would be the quiet grandmother who gives you valuable life advice and tells you hour-long stories about her crazy youth adventures with the other two. Coco would be the nana who gives you money behind your parents' backs and defends you from them when you screw up. And then Mymmy would be the "Stop crying, get tough you bitch" and "This niggers are ruining the country" tipe grandma. common guys, we shall keep the thread alive!
>>37965 >Old Mymy let her hair go back to its natural black but still keeps the blue color contacts. Ha, that's a nice touch.
>be Massa >successful animator with a position in government broadcasting >animations are influential enough to become memes in home country >make cartoon pilot to show to studios >only host it on obscure Dutch crowdfunding platform because Patreon doesn't accept Dutch e-commerce processor >say series won't continue unless you lose government job >release a few short comics and illustrations on obscure Dutch crowdfunding platform >see series gain explosive popularity after two years >so explosive that multiple people pay for ads for it in Times Square >don't make any merch for it despite making merch for other animation >don't restart crowdfunding >don't start an animation studio >don't ape the model of more successful online animation series >don't make a comic book >don't make a webcomic >begin radio silence >announce your already snail pace for content related to the cartoon is slowing down >say cartoon isn't a failed pilot but a "successful short film" >cite burnout and lack of funding for all of this Why is he like this?
>>14858 Has this series been fully subbed officially yet? Or at the very least is there somewhere I can download/torrent a decent fansub? Or is my only option to learn Dutch at this point? >>14892 >>14893 Can we upload MOV's or MKV's? >>38613 >Patreon doesn't accept Dutch e-commerce processor Oh neat, yet another reason to despise their existence.
>>38648 There are closed caption subs on the youtube videos.
>>38648 >Or at the very least is there somewhere I can download/torrent a decent fansub? You can download the original videos and their subtitle files from Youtube through a downloader.
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>>38613 >>begin radio silence even though this started since 2018 if you weren't a paypig i personally had tried to pay with an american card on multiple occasions but it wouldn't let me it got to the point where massa literally refused to let people pay him
>>38705 by the way, he 100% could have made his funding goal if he allowed internationals a platform without a language and financial barrier to pay him i would have been COMPLETELY fine with the show remaining dutch and continuing like that forever, that's why i like it, i don't want it to become english or whatever or force him to cater to his non dutch fans i guess this is all just god tier gatekeeping
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>>38613 <Finally achieved everyone's dream >Has no time to expand and nurture his short cartoon I guess it's time for the fans to come out with their own.
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>>38613 He's not American, and doesn't want to run something cool he made into the ground.
>>38707 >has no time Massa does have time. In Update 130, he shills his iceberg series, which he already has merch for. In order of mention, his reasons for quitting are: >burnout from a demanding job and labor-intensive leisure >8 years passing since he thought of the pilot for Ongezellig and now >16 months passing since he started pitching the pilot >Ongezellig having a niche audience >fears of the wait for Ongezellig the Series turning into something like the wait for Half-Life 3 >inability for Ongezellig to reach its target crowdfunding goal, regardless of inflation >demographics among viewership moving to people who are less likely to fund it >Russians being a booming demographic but unable to donate due to sanctions >fraudsters using donations to Ongezellig as a cashback scheme and how this hasn't been a problem with iDEAL, the obscure Dutch ecommerce processor >lack of growth with the Dutch, the real target audience >the first part of the Iceberg series reaching more than double the initial 48 hour views of the first Ongezellig upload >the Iceberg series selling merch >a series being too ambitious He doesn't mention what the demographics for the first iceberg episode were or how the upload of Ongezellig obviously wouldn't have the same draw as an iceberg video because it's longer than anything he released prior to it yet incomplete or how Ongezellig, by nature of being a cartoon, will naturally attract a younger audience. If he privated the separate Deels, put them into a playlist on his channel, and edited them into a single Deel after the release of Deel 6, engagement would have been higher, and it would be easier for potential future fans to watch the pilot.
>>38705 >it got to the point where massa literally refused to let people pay him So what your saying is he does it for free? >>38651 >>38653 Oh I'll just do that then thanks, in fact I can get the subtitles through Invidious even so I don't even need to go to Google YT directly. >>38706 Could have even just asked for people to ship fucking gift cards in envelopes and paid said animators in gift cards. Anything would be better than nothing.
>>38720 Rathee have what we have now than some mediocre series honestly. It will be remembered for being a neat cute little cartoon.
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>>38720 >gift cards in envelopes Would Mymy's card be like: >My love to you is bigger than whatever happened at Treblinka Coco's be like: >I guess things don't go south in your home country Leaving Maya's with some awkward gibberish.
>>38720 kek >>38728 i guess its true, everything has its golden era and then goes downhill. >>38733 maya's gibberish would be so cute and heart melting
>>38733 This is two steps removed from what the anon you're replying to posted, but this post made me think of what the sisters would do on Valentine's Day and the cards they would give. >Mymy She initially says Valentine's Day is a materialistic American holiday to increase flower sales. At the end of the day, she gives a store bought Captain Koek card, the kind elementary schoolers in America give to each other, with a stroopwafel. She drags you out to put a lock on a bridge together, a Dutch Valentine's tradition. >Coco She pins your name on a heart on her sleeve, a South African Valentine's tradition. At the start of the day, she gives a handmade card with a Springbok on its cover and a poem on the back. It's not a book-type card. >Maya Around mid-day, you find a store-bought book-type card with a cheesy line and an interior covered in crossed out attempts, ranging from anime references to implications of sex, in your desk since she ran out of ink in her permanent marker before giving it and didn't have time to buy a new one before the school day. She runs away when confronted and spends the night watching Sims she made of the two of you woohoo.
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Here's a DeepL translation of the script of Maya's Sweet 16. I don't know if this has been made before. Given the series's popularity, it may have been. I think is the only entry Massa ever made in the Ongezellig comic series. Page 2: From: noreply@ To: mayadebae@mail.com CONGRATULATIONS Today 00:00 Dear {Customer First Name}. Super-duper-congratulations for the birthday of our favorite customer... YOU! Birthdays are of course super [...] but did you know that you can make them even more [...] make it with one of our super [...] offers? Page 4: Look who's celebrating her birthday. Page 5: That plain girl? I can't even remember her name. Isn't she Coco and Mymy's sister? Remember that time she had to join our small group because she couldn't find a partner? Don't remind me. Wait, is she even having a party? She probably doesn't have anyone to invite. That's what you get for not making friends. Are we supposed to congratulate her? Why should we? She should first show interest in people other than herself. Why does she always make things so awkward? Forget about her, she's just an aso (slang for anti-social). I stay away from her all the time, too. It's her own fault, right?
[Expand Post] Page 6: Now what's she doing? I don't think she likes the attention. Then she should have played hooky today. MAYBE SHE SHOULD GO HOME. THERE SHE COULD PRETEND THERE'S SOMETHING WORTH CELEBRATING. Page 9: Ready Mymy? Long may you- Page 10: Sorry girls, no party today. Maya is sick. Page 11: Sick, on her birthday?! But we even got her a stroopwaffel cake... She threw up horribly last night, so she doesn't have an appetite. Maya needs to sleep now, so go get ready for school. Don't forget to sign her out at the front desk. Page 12: Hey sis, I just wanted to say- Page 13: Happy Birthday.
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Here's a DeepL translation of the script of the sisters' Friend Journals. I know there are others, but I don't have them on hand. These are books you get in primary school and pass around to the people in your class so your classmates can tell you about themselves. They're really just fodder for housewives. Coco's makes it clear that she is afraid of death and can't let go of her parents. Name: maya schoppenboer Age: 8 Birthday: september 21st Hair Color: black Eye Color: green My Hobbies: computer My Sports: none I'm good at: computer What I'm not so good at: paying attention Things I like: computer Things I don't like: school My idol: light from death note This is my favorite: Color: red Animal: cats Food: pepernoten Game: sims Vacation Destination: home My biggest wish: to not have to go to school anymore What I want to be later on: i don't know Name: MYMY SCHOPPENBOER Age: 8 Birthday: MARCH 3RD Hair Color: BLACK Eye Color: BROWN My Hobbies: SCOUTING AND THE ACCORDION My Sports: KORFBALL (Dutch Basketball) I'm good at: BEING GOOD AT THINGS What I'm not so good at: (blank) Things I like: THE FUNNY PAPERS Things I don't like: ORIENTAL CARTOONS My idol: CAPTAIN KOEK This is my favorite: Color: ORANGE Animal: DOGS Food: STROOPWAFELS Game: RISK Vacation Destination: THE KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS My biggest wish: TO BECOME VERY FAMOUS, BUT BEING INFAMOUS WOULD ALSO BE GOOD What I want to be later on: QUEEN OR OTHERWISE THE PRIME MINISTER AND HAVE 6 CHILDREN Name: Coco Schoppenboer-Potgieter Age: 8 Birthday: December 16 Hair color: Blond
[Expand Post]Eye Color: Brown My Hobbies: Drawing and Drumming My Sports: Rugby I am good at: I don't want to brag What I'm not so good at: Computers What I like: Maya and Mymy! What I don't like: Wasting time My idol: Christiaan Barnard (South African surgeon who performed the first human-to-human heart transplant) This is my favorite: Color: Yellow Animal: Turritopsis dohrnii (the immortal jellyfish) Food: Homemade bobotie (South African dish) Game: Goose board (old board game) Vacation country: South Africa My biggest wish: To cure all diseases and stop all war and violence What I want to be later on: Very, very, very, very, very old
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DeepL translations of some of the oneshot comics and a oneshot comic I thought was weird, Maya's Stream. Maya is streaming a personal best speedrun for fifty woohoos in the Sims 4, but the layout and her expression give the impression that her goals are tied to a vibrator like a Chaturbate stream. That must be the joke. As Maths B and D aren't present in the Student Files image, I'll give an explanation of the Dutch maths system. Dutch maths is ranked D>B>A>C. A is basic math with a focus on probability and statistics also covering basic algebra and basic calculus. B is advanced math with a focus on advanced algebra and advanced calculus. C is "cultural" math with an intense focus on word problems which covers the same topics as A but without the depth. It's math for losers, underachievers, and the mentally disabled. D is an extracurricular subject that takes the material of A and B and unifies them. It has B as a prerequisite but cannot be taken if you've already taken A. Additionally, "sixes culture" is a Dutch-exclusive term for the student culture of underachievers. A 6 is the minimum grade required to pass a subject in the Dutch school system. Clown Mymy: SOCIETY Are there any questions? Yeah, no, that literally wasn't even a presentation, you just put on a clown suit. Yeah, so what? Mymy's Nightmare: Hey (Flemish), you're finally awake! The Red Devils are playing soon! Stroopwafel? Well, I'd prefer a luikse (Belgian waffle), dude! Would it be alright if I spoke French? (French) Maya's Order: I would like a small fry (Flemish) please... YOU MEAN FRIES (Dutch)? Y-Yes, sorry... w-with Hela Curry (German spiced ketchup) WE ONLY HAVE HEINZ Oh... er, n-nevermind (no sauce) then Student Files: Maya Schoppenboer Track: Culture and Society Birthplace: Baarle-Nassau (North Brabant, Netherlands) Summary: Textbook example of sixes culture, has been passing exams by a hair's breadth for four years. Gives a very unmotivated and uninterested impression and is severely behind on career exploration. Possibly autistic. Subjects: 6 Dutch 7 English 5 French 5 Social Studies 6 Cultural and Arts Education 5 Physical Education 6 Fine Arts 4 Mathematics C 6 History 6 Geography 4 Strength 4 Agility 3 Endurance 7 Intelligence 5 Wisdom 0 Charisma
[Expand Post]Mymy Schoppenboer Track: Economics and Society Birthplace: Nagasaki (Japan) Summary: I hate this kid so much. A raging megalomaniac with a Napoleon complex stretching from here to Tokyo. Weak to bottles. Subjects: 9 Dutch 6 English 5 French 8 Social Studies 7 Cultural and Arts Education 7 Physical Education 8 Economics 6 Mathematics A 6 History 7 Geography 3 Strength 7 Agility 4 Endurance 8 Intelligence 2 Wisdom 5 Charisma Cleo Venetiaan Track: Culture and Society Birthplace: Willemstad (Curacao) Summary Wants to be a professional musician. Good luck with that, lmao. Subjects: 7 Dutch 9 English 6 German 6 Social Studies 8 Cultural and Arts Education 6 Physical Education 9 Music 6 Mathematics C 7 History 6 Geography 6 Strength 6 Agility 6 Endurance 6 Intelligence 6 Wisdom 6 Charisma
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>Official comics Fuck yes
>>38867 As far as I know, what I've posted is it for official comics with dialogue except for Coco's Allergy (oneshot that shows how Maya lost her cat because Coco was allergic) and Maya's Conversation (multi-page comic about Maya having an awkward conversation her male counterpart on the bus, which forms the basis for the boy in her fantasies, but it's officially translated into English). Here's a MEGA with most of the official stuff. https://mega.nz/folder/vjgQCZLa#EllbJ7g2Kp2FGfCSJYdSjA
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>>38836 >March 3 It's Mymy's birthday today. Here's fanart I found from the booru.
>>38881 happy birthday to the orange cutie
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>>39030 ....the shiniest most glittering tanzanite that i dare say no other can compare
>>39080 No, it's fucking vantablack niggerstone from the most vile depths of hell
>>39084 calm
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>>39084 It was the shiniest gemerald that ever fell from aryanheaven. Nothing will ever come close to the sparkle it had.
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>>39084 >vantablack niggerstone from the most vile depths of hell you say?
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>>39662 >That ending 10/10
A24, slowburn, surrealist, spine-tingling, horrific news: massa is possibly dying from turbo-AIDS
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>>39668 >massa is possibly dying from turbo-AIDS I hope he will be fine, I would love a second season episode.
>>39670 The Soyteen shit gave him cancer.
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>>39668 >stops making Ongezellig >4/20 arrives >spirit of Hitler curses him with a genetic disease >still shills the iceberg
>>39682 He was ok with it
>>39696 Exactly!
>>39660 It's pitch-black niggercoal. tried to watch it and couldn't make it past 5 seconds it was so fucking awful
>>39668 He should sell to someone trust worthy before he croaks.
>>40051 Copyright is utter cancer, he should just abandon it or get buried with it.
>>40052 There's always public domain.
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>>40078 Schrodinger's copyright that is, if Youtube keeps on deleting any reupload of Steam Willie Boat despite becoming public domain something similar will happen to Onegezelling when the creator kicks the bucket and transforms into a legal state puppetered by his lawyers.
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I'm going to miss it...
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>>40156 Many days of the week, I think about Ongezellig.
>>40156 I posted this video on Youtube, may I be banned or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX54r37CLNA
Happy Birthday Maya! It's officially over! As the most dedicated autist here, it's time to do some more translations! Lets start with the most interesting portions, the beginning and the end! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gHgqMcvsyQoNR6v6EfwnLezJkYHtLBjEe80frn4l7Hg/edit#heading=h.faszunuig56w >Studio Massa's Official Public Ongezellig Spoiler Document To celebrate Maya's ?? birthday, a final compilation of all information regarding Ongezellig to which you are owed. >Questions About the Future Despite the fact that, in my opinion, the official conclusion pretty clearly drew an end to the story, there is apparently still ambiguity about Ongezellig's nonexistant future. I have to go into this subject with some rigour than I'd like to to dispel all doubts. >Is Ongezellig over? Yes. >Is Ongezellig really really really over? Yes. >Is Ongezellig over in forms other than animation? Yes. >Why is Ongeellig Over? Burnout required less work for me. Slumped after seven years of a single project. Limited chances for a successful pitch (and too labor intensive for such a niche audience). Not convinced the target support goal could be reached and maintained. Sufficient (and sometimes greater) financial support, reach, and enjoyment of history cartoons and their audience. In the end, it was better to pull the plug in a timely way than keep people strung along forever. I expect the same treatment when I have dementia. Furthermore, Ongezellig is over because of a sum of these reasons. Singling out any one of them is a case of tunnel vision. >Why the greater support from the history cartoon audience? I am an adult Dutchman and make videos in Dutch on Dutch subjects, regardless of whether they are history cartoons or Ongezellig. My viewers are mostly adult Dutch persons, though a large portion of my international audience are far younger and from every corner of the Earth. Besides the obvious language, cultural, and generational barriers, Onvezellig is often interacted with in a way that conflicts with the tastes of thirty-year-old Dutch retards (he uses the term "cheeshead" here, which is derogatory when used by others, typically used to refer to all Dutchmen by Belgians but specifically by people from the Southern Netherlands (where Maya is from) to refer to Hollanders, but when used by the Dutch in reference to themselves, such as in this case, it's jocular. "Boomers" would be the Woolsey-tier choice for this.). So the author is alien to his public and visa versa, which reminds me of why Doe Maar stopped in 1984. "The band had difficulty coping with their success and felt a growing distance from their increasingly younger audience, who often responsded to them in an overly rabid manner." Ergo, it is not a personal attack when I say that I generally -though there are many individual exceptions- have more of an affinity with the audience of my history cartoons. >But I read online [lie]. Dutch readers can skip this because this is exclusively an English phenomenon. Official information is often thrown around haphazardly, poorly translated, or misinterpreted. Then gaps are filled by outsiders who sometimes make illogical conjectures that seem more like wishful thinking than the truth. (This next section is written in English.) To prevent mistranslation this part is in verified English. Like Abraham Lincoln said: not everything you read on the internet is true. This document is the official word of the creator and anything that’s not in here was probably made up by some rando for whatever reason. >Can't your target financial goal be reached with [suggestion]? One can only guess. Even with all the suggestions I see, I personally don't think so. Living off crowdfunding is only for the biggest successes, and Ongezellig is simply not that, especially considering how much labor the "success" of Ongezellig required. Returning to the topic of tunnel vision, even if the target could be achieved and maintained, I'd still be in a slump and burned out. If the prospects had been more favorable, I could have overcome these things, but in this situation, it's unwise to put my career on the line. >Would you be willing to sell the rights to Ongezellig? (gif from a Dutch cartoon saying "Haha, NO!") No worries, they will be free 70 years after my death. >Could someone else continue Ongezellig? (same gif from a Dutch cartoon saying "Haha, NO!") It's not like you could finish the Diary of Anne Frank. (Jesus Christ, Massa.) Bringing the dead back to life only creates zombies. A little fanart here and there is fine, but taking inspiration from Ongezellig for your own work is far better. >What's next for Studio Massa? Hobby projects concerning Dutch history with no ambition of a fulltime YouTube career, and eventually death.
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>>41277 Maya's email in that one comic was real, by the way. I'll translate the mailing list messages from that after this. MAYA Maya Schoppenboer was born on September 21st in North Brabant as her parents' only biological child. Her father, Ravi, is half-North Brabanter and half-Hindustani Surinamese. Her mother, Soei, is half-Moluccan and half-Chinese-Indonesian. The reasons for Maya's behavior are: >AD(H)Ders are generally at a disadvantage when it comes to socialization. >Trauma from the loss of her cat, Noga, whom she had to give up because of Coco's allergy. (Guess this makes the comics canon.) >Overshadowed by her more talented adopted sisters, and suspicions of them being adopted to compensate for her. >Unfortunately, very few people near her with similar interests. Inspirations for Maya >An old character from a lousy comic I drew as a teenager >My own experiences at the same age (from him: you eventually grow out of it) >Schoppenboer is derived from the Afrikaans word for the Grim Reaper because it sounds cool. >(left: the predecessors of Coco and Maya, right: concept art of Maya's parents) Misconceptions about Maya >Maya is based on Tomoko from Watamote Half true: Maya is based on an old character of mine and adapted for Ongezellig with fairly standard tropes for this kind of character, such as the hair over her eyes. Social retardation, sitting alone at recess, and escapism via cartoons, oriental or otherwise, are based on my own experiences and those of many others in the same situation. What Watamote did inspire is confidence that this is an interesting enought subject to base an animation on. >Maya is an Indo(nesian) This was hinted at, but I ultimately decided it was more interesting to make her a melting pot of ethnicities to heighten her identity crisis. >May has autism There's a greater overlap between AD(H)D and autism than most people think, and much of the "evidence" of Maya's autism could also be attributed to AD(H)D. >(excerpt from somewhere): "I was always told that ADHD and autism are opposites. People with autism generally like routine, can be deeply hyperfocused for very long periods of time (called hyperfixation) and have difficulty recognizing social cues. ADHDers, on the other hand, hyperfocus occasionally, but are impulsive and often switch between them. At the same time, there is much overlap: (this portion is highlighted) both groups are easily overstimulated and may have difficulty with social contact (though the "core reason" for this is often different). But what if you have both? >ADD no longer exists, it's ADHD-I now I know, but then "Autism Denial Disorder" wouldn't work for what it was definitely worth.
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>>41278 COCO Coco Potgieter was born on December 16th in Bloemfontein, South Africa. She was adopted after her father and pregnant mother were killed in a lightning strike. (BOO Massa cucked out.) The loss of her parents and unborn sibling is the cause of her affection for her new family, pent-up anger, and chronic existential angst. (We could have had emo Coco.) Coco plays the drums in the eurobeat folk band Running in the 60's alongside Cleo (guitar), Zoey (bass guitar), and Yfke (synth), and plays rugby. Inspirations for Coco >An old character from a lousy comic I drew as a teenager >Literally the antithesis of Maya >An obsession with the Dutch history of South Africa (from him: you eventually grow out of it) >I know a South African named Potgieter from way back and liked the name. Misconceptions about Coco >Coco's parents were murdered Admit it, if you believed this, it was because you wanted it to be true just a little bit. >Coco is dumb She's mostly bad with technology and missed out on puberty. >Haha, Coco swears by saying "kitty", how cute (Excerpt from Afrikaans(?) Wikipedia): "Poes" is an obscenity in Afrikaans which refers to the human vulva (external female genitals). This is a direct adoption of the Dutch word "poes" which refers to a female cat. Reference can also be made to the correlation between the Afrikaans use of the word "pussy" and the English use of the word "puss" or "pussy" which also refer to female genitalia. It is typically unacceptable to utter this word in formal or civilized company.
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>>41279 MYMY Mymy was born 橘迷子 (Meiko Tachibana) on March 3rd in Nagasaki Japan, but ran away from Japan because she liked the Netherlands more. She has an older biological sister, Eiko (英子) who is actively looking for her. Mymy plays the accordion and korfball, is in love with Kapitein Koek but wouldn't say no to Meneer de Uil (the framing device character of the 1640 episode, 4/5 minute long children's show Fabeltjeskrant broadcast in the Netherlands, France, Sweden, and Japan between 1968 and 1989, and the UK between 1973 and 1975, a giant owl who reads children stories) (from him: notice a pattern?). Her best friends are Cato and Bert, and she is frenemies with Kiki. Inspirations for Mymy >A trick to draw the Stille Willem audience to Ongezellig >Youths who LARP with overblown egos for attention (you grow out of it) >Name comes from the South African version of Kleine Mie (Little My) from the Moomins >Clothes are the color of the Dutch flag with orange hair dye Misconceptions about Mymy >Mymy is a Nazi What would be patriotic about collaborating with the occupier? >Mymy is racist Belgians aren't a race! Mymy's only real problem with Belgium is that it exists: once she has annexed Flanders, all her prejudices will disappear like snow in sunlight. Furthermore, Mymy is mostly the type who still refers to Germans as Krauts when she demands her bike be returned and liked Carnaval Festival before its renovation. >Mymy wears the colors of the Prince's Flag Orange is above red. >Mymy has changed her appearance to look more Dutch Red herring: she knows her sister is looking for her, and her metamorphosis is mainly as a disguise. (Boo.) >Mymy and Kiki are a couple Based on a flashback in the last part. The illustrator drew it this way because he thought it was cute and had no romantic intentions. >Everyone has four letters in their name except Mymy's birth name Yeah, that's why she changed it.
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>>41281 VERA Vera's background is adequately displayed in her illustrations. What more could you want? Inspirations for Vera >An old character from a school assignment >April May's hairstyle from Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
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>>41282 MAYA'S IMAGINARY FRIENDS Maya's imaginary friends Epke and Anke are based on the only two people whom she has ever clicked with but was never able to build a friendship. Epke's backstory is detailed in Maya's Conversation. There were plans to introduce Anke in a sequel, but it never happened.
>>41284 CLASSMATES >Kiki: Somali Pirate Wannabe >Axel: Kakker (Dutch slang for a Prep) >Roos: Franco-Belgian comic lover >Adam: I don't know either >Goof: Exclusively listens to Nu-Metal >Yfke: SMOKE WEED EVERY DAY >Stan: In his Inca phase >Wiel: Nozem (Dutch greasers) >Trijn(/Tryn): Opposes women's sufferage >Rens: Influencer >Cleo: The only Leeward (Antilles) Goth >Bert: E&M Hardliner (exclusively pursues the E&M tract in school, basically a liberal arts major) >Ilse: !Anne Frank >Henk: In love with Caroline van der Plas (founder of the Farmer-Citizen Movement) >Cato: the least arrogant Ajacied (AFC Ajax supporter) >Koos: says yes to MDMA >Zoey: not shy, just an introvert >Sjef: Limbo (Limburger)-representative >Wait, everyone has 4 letter names except... TrijnLingo rules. (reference to the Dutch gameshow LINGO, hence the change in Tryn's name).
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>>41287 Forgot the image. ERRORS AND NON-CANON All images of Ongezellig characters up to Summer 2018 are concept art from when Ongezellige did not yet have a form and nothing about the characters was fixed. Of course, these are all non-canon. (Example of non-canon concept from 2017 of older characters with a ginger Coco) >The first three parts are aesthetically lacking compared to the later parts. The backgrounds, colors, and picture quality are subpar, and everyone's necks are way too thick. >In part one, there is a curtain on Maya's wall that connects to Mymy's room. This makes no sense and was removed in part six. >In part one, the headshots look as if Mymy had changed her appearance all at once. In retrospect, this transformation could have been better spaced with, say, tufts of orange hair. >Maya's hair is naturally dark brown, but appears black because she does not use shampoo. This was decided much later and should have been reflected in the headshots. >In part three, Mymy has long sleeves in one shot that obviously should have been short. >The ending of part three is far too sentimental for my taste and I would probably handle it differently in a remaster. >Maya's Sweet 16 is an experiment in drama rather than an official part of Ongezellig's lore. The result of the experiment is that I suck at comic book drawing, or Ongezellig just doesn't work in comic book form. Also, this comic was drawn in a very melancholic period so the content may come across as rather tone deaf compared to the cartoon. >Maya's Conversation is more of an experiment in comic design outsourcing than an official part of Ongezellig lore. >Many of the illustrations through 2022 are based on supporter ideas and not all canon. Illustrations in which characters wear costumes are usually alternate scenarios that should not be taken seriously, and the illustration HikkikoMymy presents an alternate scenario in which Mymy stayed in Japan. >In the illustration Mymy's Debate, Vera smokes cigarettes, breaking the joke that Vera uses harmless stimulants (Jip & Janneke champagne and cigarette lollipops), so pretend she lit chocolate cigarettes.
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>>41288 IDEAS FOR FUTURE EPISODES In order of potential (all of which were not conceived and are hence non-canon): >Maya's Friend Eiko discover's Mymy's whereabouts and enters the class disguised as a Korean exchange student. She manipulates Maya into a friendship with the goal of kidnapping Mymy back to Japan. >Mymy versus Santa Claus Sinterklaas enlists Mymy to drive Santa Clause from the Netherlands for good. >Coco Cures Bullying Coco discovers Maya is being bullied, so she stalks and gaslights the bully until he goes insane. >Mymy Conquers België Mymy and Kiki declare war on Belgium and occupy the Niemandsland enclave in Noord-Brabant. >Maya Becomes a Band Member Coco gives Maya a spot in her band as a triangle player to give her the idea of what a friend group is, but soon discovers that's not how it works. >Class Representative Elections Mymy tries to become class representative at the expensive of Kiki's Pirate Party. >Maya's Cat Noga has to be euthanized, and Maya reflects on how her only friend has been taken from her for a second time. >Queen Mymy Mymy realizes marrying Princess Amalia is her only chance to become the Queen of the Netherlands. (For reference, Princess Amalia would be around the girls' age if this had become an episode after the pilot.)
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>>41289 PRODUCTION QUESTIONS >Who is Ongezellig's target audience? Mainly myself, a Dutchman unsatisfied with the Dutch output on YouTube. This could be scaled up to anyone who can identify with it, but Ongezellig is firstly a personal project. >What did you use to make Ongezellig? Ongezellig was animated with TVPaint 11 (except for some scenes with Moho), edited with Vegas Pro, and composed in FL Studio. All purchased legally, believe it or not. >How many people worked on Ongezellig? I made parts 1+2 myself (excluding the voice actresses). For parts three through six, I hired workers and interns. Other than myself, there were four voice actresses, four freelancers, and four freelancers by the end of it, though they didn't work on Ongezellig at the same time. >Why is Ongezellig so Dutch? Because I am Dutch (this was an actual question I was asked). >What is the official [foreign language] translation of Ongezellig? None, since Ongezellig is untranslatable. All attempts to do so (especially "Unsociable") miss the mark. >Why is there no official dub? (Map of the European standards regarding dubs, most of which, including English, are exclusively for children.) Ongezellig is not for children. >Can I dub Ongezellig myself? Amateur dubs of Ongezellig have, as far as I know, never been done by people who actually understand the Dutch language. Typically, they are translations of translations, which invites mistakes. If you then also interpret Dutch idioms and references without prior knowledge, I don't expect anything good. Dubbing is tolerated but not officially recognized. >Why is there no merchandise? Ongezellig stands on its own without a need for exploitation by soulless consumer tripe. The only official merchandise was a poster of Mymy Zedong because I could see the fun in that, but then again it was too radical by Spreadshirt's guidelines. Only if the profits went to charity could I rationalize Ongezellig merch. >Why do other projects have merchandise? "Coconuts are Not a Spice" does not have a soul to sell (though I wouldn't have bothered with that today) and the Iceberg Poster has educational value. >Why no Patreon? Patreon does not take iDEAL, and foreigners could easily find Petje.af. I had exactly one email from a foreigner who badly wanted a Patreon, and I didn't think it was worth it for him alone. >Why is there no [social media] for Ongezellig/Studio Massa? Social media and its effects have been a disaster for the human race. You can email me, and I am in my supporters' Discord chat, anything more is noise. >This isn't a question, but Christ, you really suck at marketing. It's that C&M (liberal arts) mentality, eh? On the other hand, if I had gone E&M (business), you'd probably have a shit animation with excellent promotion right now.
>>41291 THE END Divulging the end of a hypothetical Ongezellig here seems far more anticlimactic than leaving it open ended. And that's the end of the document. All in all, I respect Massa, but it's obvious why he has never reached a managerial position, despite spending over a decade in public broadcasting, and couldn't sell Ongezellig. He has excellent skills in making a pilot and directing animation and humor, but he's all over the place everywhere else. "Ongezellig doesn't work as a drama." "Ongezellig is impossible to adapt to a comic." "Patreon wouldn't be worth it (despite me recognizing I have a niche audience at home)." "I couldn't be bothered to make a followup to Maya's Conversation because I was in too much of a slump." "I couldn't reach the funding goal, but I only made the Mymy Zedong poster because it was funny, yet I didn't pursue any other form of sales after it was taken off my first store." "I have eight episode ideas, and they're almost all episodic and would require reading a patron-only comic. Oh, and none of them were written out". "I was in a slump for seven years and only made a pilot and a few comics and commissions." He sorely needed a manager and/or someone else in a creative position. His inability to make these kinds of connections must be why Maya is so real.
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>>41299 MAYAMAIL #1 friday november 23 history today was about anne frank, i didn't like it, but it did give me the idea to start a diary. writing "alone and bored" every day is boring, so maybe a weekly or monthly diary would work better. class today came up with the genius idea to have everyone be in a raffle. must find a way out soon. pippi langklomp cancelled immediately because of her "fath"... can you be jealous of someone's stupidity? that was all that happened today... it's now more than two months since my birthday. coco pretends she didn't see anything, thank goodness because she wouldn't have understood it anyway. can never use the bulimia excuse again. almost december... chirstmas is mostly family so i'll survive that, but the 16th falls on a weekend this year, so she'll probably take advantage of that - babysitting. don't know how to write anyhing else but this isn't important anyway.
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>>41301 Forgot the link. https://pastebin.com/raw/pjKNDq8C MAYAMAIL #2 friday november 30 we continued anne frank today. what i learned = anne was a beta, not very attractive, and completely shut off from the outside world. i thought, heh this is familiar and almost sympathized but then "oh and she fucked the boy she was hiding with" even anne frank had more experience than me... at least i might have a chance when they start persecuting eurasians i worried about the raffle for nothing because i wasn't asked to participate. i suppose i should be glad about that but i'm not to distract myself i started thinking about hidden sex but now i feel even worse. and then i noticed it's december and now i just want to hibernate
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>>41302 MAYAMAIL #3 friday december 7 wednesday was pakjesavond. only pippi langklomp and i didn't attend the class's christmas party. pippi STILL BELIEVES in sinterklaas and calls christmas parties sacrilege. when i explain that sinterklaas is fake she calls me a heretic and a conspiracy theorist and says they said the same thing about the moon landing. coco asked why i didn't participate in the christmas party. i said i wasn't invited but apparently there were no invitations at all and everyone else had signed up... she suggested sharing a present with me but then we would both have had 1 drumstick so i said no. in the evening we had to stage pakjesavond to keep pippi in her delusion. mom asked in advance what kind of gifts i wanted, but all the things i really want are too embarrassing for her to buy. so i asked for more kruidnoten so i can ration for the winter. according to my bmi i am still underweight so they can't be that unhealthy. pippi now thinks i only got kruidnoten because of my heresy and says that the schoppenboer cabinet will launch a new crusade to protect the true faith. i'm glad it's over, but i still don't know anything about the 16th... in my opinion this is the calm before the storm
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>>41305 MAYAMAIL #4 sunday november 9 GODDAMN IT I KNEW IT i had anticipated it for days and tonight she came into my room (without knocking of course) (luckily i was just simsing this time). here's pretty much what she said: "so, next sunday is my birthday, and i couldn't choose who i wanted to invite to my party, so i just invited the whole class. to our house. i already know everyone's coming, but, you're the last one left, even though you live here too of course, but, everyone's doing it, so, if you would do it too, i would really love that" this is just blackmail and she knows precisely what she's doing. i just thought of three scenarios in my head: i go pros: coco isn't pissed cons: i have to stand alone in a corner the whole time, fear, humiliation, shame, not knowing what to do or say, and being a burden to everyone just by being there i don't go pros: i don't go cons: coco is hella pissed and if i stay in my room (where else would i go) i have to hear how much fun everyone is having without that boring girl i can't go pros: i don't go and coco isn't mad cons: ??? i have a week to figure out how to stop myself from going. normally i would use the bulimia excuse but because of my birthday she will suspect me of trying to get out with that excuse. unless... i do something so crazy no one would ever think i did it on purpose...
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>>41306 MAYAMAIL #5 satuday december 15 after i finish writing this i'll fall down the stairs i don't think anyone would guess i'd do it on purpose. i've planned everything so the damage will be minimal but the results maximal. what i have to make sure of is that my injuries won't be so severe i'll have to go to an emergency room but bad enough that i won't have to go to the party. first i make sure i have a good excuse for why i "fell" down the stairs, so i've loosened my shoe laces that i'll "trip" over. of course i'm not going to just throw myself down the stairs and let gravity do the rest! i'll make a controlled, careful dive that i will soften as much as possible in my arms. by doing this i protect my head and hopefully walk away with some convincing scrapes and bruises so they can't suspect me of faking it. i'll tray to pound as hard as i can on each stair so it sounds more serious than it is. at the bottom, i'll make sure they find me in a painful looking position. i definitely shouldn't complain about a headache or else they'll think i have concussion and call 112. it'll mainly be my arms and legs that "hurt" which makes it hard for me to move and I'll "unfortunately" have to stay in bed all weekend. of course i can't stay home tomorrow because i won't be able to "rest" during a busy party, so i'll ask mom to take me to grandma and granpa's to "recover" there. once i'm there i can relax all day with my phone, unlimited loempia, and most importantly NO PARTY :D:D:D and if i take extra long i may not even have to go to school next week so i'll have a week early vacation!! i haven't been able to sleep all week because of the panic attacks so i deserve that imo. its now or never... ahah so much adrenaline! but i have been preparing for this all week and literally anything is better than going to that party! i'll write up how it went tomorrow! if i can still remember that is, haha
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>>41307 MAYAMAIL #6 sunday december 16 this weekend i learned that fantasizing about doing something crazy is much easier than doing something crazy all week i was making up reasons to do it, but once i looked down all the reasons not to do it came up at once. i stood there for at least 5 minutes until i suddenly thought of what i should have thought of much earlier. what would coco think if i fell down the stairs? and then i went back to my room tonight i waited for her to finally invite me. i had no energy left to think of a plan so i would have just let it happen last week i wrote this: i go pros: coco isn't pissed cons: i have to stand alone in a corner the whole time, fear, humiliation, shame, not knowing what to do or say, and being a burden to everyone just by being there i don't go pros: i don't go cons: coco is hella pissed and if i stay in my room (where else would i go) i have to hear how much fun everyone is having without that boring girl i can't go pros: i don't go and coco isn't pissed cons: ??? deep down i hoped i was brave enough for option 1 it sounds very nice without that boring girl
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>>41308 MAYAMAIL #7 friday december 21 christmas break is the worst break. you finally have some time off, but you're forced to go to a stupid party with a stupid family and stupid christmas music. new years is even worse, drunken idiots who are going to make loud noises because the year changed digits. so instead of happily forgetting compulsory school you have to spend half of the break stressing over even more nonsensical obligations. pippi got in trouble because she attacked a mall santa. she called him an imperialist spy en shoot him in the head while yelling "saint nicholas is great" over and over. it was a nerf gun so he wasn't hurt of course but the kid on his lap cried really hard. coco was rather distant this week. furthermore the other day i finally found a personality test that fits me. the result is quite depressing so it's very reliable. i saved it so i can compare later if i have gone forward or backward. Attachment: (originally a now broken discord link. see the attached image for the result)
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>>41309 MAYAMAIL #8 thursday, december 27 hahaha maya you scrooge, how can you hate on christmas? don't you love your fam- *ding dong* oh hey, it's my family “Hi Everyone! oh WOw loOK hOW BIg yoU've ALl grOWn!” “OWO cOco YOu're ALreAdy a Real WomAn! how DOes IT feeL To PLaY rUGBy at tHe InTeRnatIONaL level? oH aNd dID yOu maKe thAt pAintinG ThERE YoURsELf? AND yOU'rE SOOO mUsIcAl tOo! what a GEniuS! WE'RE all sO PROud of YoU!” “WOw MymY I HEARD YoU REachEd A 10 In DUtcH! And tHat YoU SCOreD The wiNNInG gOAl aT thE KoRfBALl CUP! aNd ThAt yoU Do sO MUCH VOlUnTeER wORK, all The ScoUtS rEalLy LOok Up to You! can you PlaY somE AcCORDIOn fOR Us BEcAuSe YoU ARE SO gOoD AT thaT toO uwu” ... “oh hi maya.” but seriously maya how can you fucking hate on christmas hahahaha
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>>41310 MAYAMAIL #9 hey maya, remember when you thought christmas break would be fun once the holidays were over? haha silly maya, if you don't come to school, school will come to you. SO because school was closed and they couldn't use the music room I was repeatedly treated to free rehearsals by coco's moronic band. i've always wanted to play an instrument but i never did because the walls are too thin. pippi would laugh at me and coco would try to help me all the time and i don't know which is worse. all four band members are in my class but i can't remember their names apart from coco. they make eurobeatfolk because the guitarist insists on doing something no one has done before without thinking about whether it actually happens to sound good. i'm sure coco has also realized how bad the music is but she only joins because they are friends and she collects those like stamps. do friends have value when you have so many? if i keep avoiding her i can brag at christmas this year that i'm the only one in class not to be friends with coco, which imo is way more impressive than caning her. the second-worst moment was when i ran into the bassist while going to the bathroom. i always listen through the walls before i go to see if the coast is clear, but she, on the other hand, haardly ever says anything so i made the wrong move. i opened my door and BOOM eye contact. hellos are my achilles heel so i stood there staring like a retard until she said hi first. she didn't and just walked back to coco's room. rude bitch. she talks at least as little as i do but she has friends and is in a band? do i look like i'm from chernobyl or something? but worst of all was when they spent the night. i was lying in bed still awake because of the eye contact incident so i had no choice. the night could be described as being forced to listen to a five hour podcast by the most uninteresting hosts on the most unimportant topics. jesus christ friendship is overrated.
>>41311 I accidentally cut off the end. MAYAMAIL #9 CONTINUED man... if i had a band, things would be so much more fun...
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>>41311 >>41312 MAYAMAIL #10 monday january 28 uhhhh if this keeps up my weekly will soon become a yearbook i really should have known i couldn't keep it up weekly. once i tried to learn japanese, within three days i knew all the hiragana and katakana by heart and was full of motivation. but then kanji came along and i've never had the motivation for anything since then. but in exactly 6 hours i have a test and i had to do something ot procrastinate from learning so here i am again nothing's happened since vacation ended anyway. except when mom said grandma and granpa were looking for help at their store and i nearly had a heart attack. the fact that i don't have to go outside besides school is the only thing keeping me from cutting or something. and i don't think a checkout girl with the aura of an aborted blobfish will be of any help to them. but did she seriously think i was qualified for that? she must be even less informed than i thought. but i supposed your blood daughter doesn't really matter anymore if you've brought in two substitutes to compensate not that i have mommy issues or anything, like i'm waiting for another meddler like coco. as long as they leave me alone i have no reason to cut yet. anyway i've never really understood cutters, i tried it once after reading about it but it mostly hurt. maybe i'm just no miserable enough BUT NOT FOR LONG, because in a little over two weeks the third-worst day of the year next to september 21 and the day school starts will be here. and yippee it falls on a school day this year. if i start cutting daily from now on i'll probably have lost enough blood to cut school convincingly haha
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>>41313 MAYAMAIL #11 & #12 February 11 FUCK VALENTINES DAY so every february our school holds a rose campaign where students can buy roses for each other which are then handed out on valentine's day "hahahahahha maya is jealous because she doesn't get roses" wouldn't you know bitch, i get one every year. not from a boy of course, but as a kind of consolation prize from coco because she herself gets about 10 roses every year and probably feels sorry for me so she always buys me one too. also for pippi by the way because she'd get jealous otherwise lol but the consolation rose isn't the reason why valentine's day should be abolished from the calendar yes, i know ever well that this """holiday""" is just a sham by stores to sell gross perfumes bbbbbut whyyyyy DO I ALWAYS HOPE FOR MORE THAN ONE ROSE? to avoid the inevitable disappointment of being reminded of why i will never get more than 1 rose and having to remind myself for weeks of how boring and ugly i am is very very tiring hopefully everything will go back to normal after thursday valentines day sweet journal i got a second rose today it's lying torn to pieces in a garbage can somewhere everything is worse now i'll explain it to you later
[Expand Post] first i have to try something
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>>41314 ash wednesday well the long story short is: i got the second rose, was full of adrenaline and stuff, but it turned out coco had bought 1 rose for the entire class becuase she didn't want to exclude anyone and the second rose came from her as a kind of double consolation rose. that was a bit of a disappointment sooo i tore both of them to pieces oops it turns out that kind of thing is better done in revenge fantasies than in front of the whole class. so coco was going to cook for us that night and i locked myself in my room. but instead of beating me up or at least starving me she brought the food upstairs and apologized for HER ruining MY valentines day. then i felt even guiltier and decided that if she won't punish me i'll do it myself. so i left her food alone that night and went to sleep hungry. the next day was another school day now among people who hated me even more than they did before, so i skipped breakfast too and didn't bring lunch. the whole day i had too much of a stomach ache to remember that i was maya, so that was already a better day than most. i didn't eat again until dinner but really only because we were at the table together and it would be too obvious not to notice, but i felt guilty again when i was full so i had only dinner all weekend too. and i haven't broken my streak since then so i've been doing this for three weeks now. i've already dropped from 44 to 40 kilos but i always wear wide clothes anyway so no one notices. and no, i do NOT have anorexia because that's for THOTS who get insecure from billboards. what i'm doing is called FASTING, because that's what brabanters are supposed to do after carnaval to atone for their sins (i just needed a head start). and normally carnaval makes me want to vomit but you can't do that if you have nothing to vomit ;d
Translation notes: Pippi Langklomp = Pippi Longstocking = Mymy Sinterklaas = Dutch Santa Claus Pakjesavond = Package Giving, Like Easter Egg Hunting but for Christmas Surprises/Klassensurprises = Like a Secret Santa but You Draw Lots Based on Self-Submitted Interests and the Recipient Guesses Who You Are From a Satirical Poem You Write and Arts and Craft You Make (I translated this as "Christmas Party" but really shouldn't have) Loempia = Thin Indonesian Spring Rolls I understand why Massa thinks the comics are in poor taste. This was really dark and gave a perspective on Maya's character that a cartoon would never touch on. It's not bad, but it describes a young girl going through a fairly realistic downward spiral from bulemia into anorexia. Given how we now have everything Ongezellig, I imagine the timeline like this. >First Meeting >Propaganda >Coco's Birthday >Maya's Order >Coco Rugby >Mymy Korfball >Maya's Sweet 16 >Maya's Stream >MayaMail >Maya's Conversation >Ongezellig >Mymy Wanted The sequel to Maya's Conversation would be before Ongezellig. As for the scrapped future episodes, I think the right order for them given this timeline is. >Class Representative Elections >Coco Cures Bullying >Maya Becomes a Band Member >Mymy Conquers België >Maya's Friend >Queen Mymy >Maya's Cat >Mymy Versus Santa Claus However, I think something about Ongezellig (the episode) doesn't match the timeilne unless Massa planned for the series to run for one or two seasons. Since Ongezellig is set after MayaMail, the series would have be a school year and a half since the characters are 16-17 when the series would have started. I doubt the episode ideas he gave could make an entire season, but from his proposed episodes alone, the pacing and character focus would be too skewed toward Mymy as 5/8 of the episodes are Mymy episodes. I would have put Queen Mymy at the end, but ending on a holiday special is a cartoon tradition, and Maya's Cat back-to-back with Maya's Friend would make the latter half of the season too drama-heavy. Either of them would be a good mid-season finale or season finale, depending on whether Mymy's sister would have been a regular character. Coco Cures Bullying could be about Adam, who has a threatening design and Massa didn't think of a gimmick for, and that would leave a spot for Mymy's sister. I think that even if the series was picked up, it would have turned into the Dutch Moral Orel.
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Pure fucking autism Bless this board and all that dwell on it!
>>41388 Thanks. Someone uploaded Kiki's unimplemented lines from the pilot. Interestingly, Kiki's VA was the same as Vera's. She has a decent vocal range. https://youtu.be/4mbQnoQa2dE Many other characters speak during this scene, so I assume it was meant to draw in viewers to the pertinent personalities of the cast of future episodes and increase total watch time when that was still relevant. Given the number of characters, my guesses are that he doubted whether he could have everyone he wanted for the scene stay in case Ongezellig was funded, or he couldn't find/afford enough decent VAs. Either way, the scene has music rather than a cacophany of voices because of numbers problems. It requires VAs for at least Kiki, Roos, Wiel, Rens, Cleo, Bert, and Sjef, and for Coco and Mymy to return. Assuming they make ambient noise when present, Koos and Yfke would need VAs as well. That's 11 VAs on the budget of a state animator and a woefully underfunded crowdsourcing campaign before its global spike in popularity. Given their appearances, Yfke and Roos could have shared a VA, maybe Anke's, Sjef and Rens could have shared a VA, and Wiel and Koos or Bert and Koos could have shared a VA, the difference between the two being dependent on the pitch of Koos's voice. That's 7 VAs for a scene lasting 26 seconds and assumes Massa wouldn't be an autist and raise the maximum amount to 12 by hiring someone for Cato's slurping noises, all of whom would be paid at an almost equal amount per line. Unrelated, but the Zarty recently reanimated Deel 6. https://youtu.be/2Rvs403xJYs
>>41388 I was expecting much worse, but fetish artists don't really seem to give a shit and are stuck with current flavor of the month turd trending on their socials. >ywn get beaten into a pulp out by a 'roid rage Mymy after having a heated discussion on which parts of her history books have been rewritten
>>41406 >fetish artists don't really seem to give a shit A large portion of the fanbase is against pornography of the characters. It's something both Xitterfags and various 'artyfags agree on.
>>41411 What? Why? Did they become the new Pepe the Frog and lewd artists have their thumbs stuck so far up their asses to the point of not giving attention the problematic people who understand the humor? Even Vivian James was touched by inflationcucks.
>>41414 Xitterfags see it as wholesome, just like their interpretation of Moral Orel. 'artyfags hate pornography in general and have harassed people who draw pornography of the characters. Rule one on the Zarty is "NO PORN". This includes camletoe, bulges, and nipples, despite Ongezellig being a Eurofag cartoon and opening with porn. Rule two is "NO GORE".
>>41416 Well it was fun while it lasted, rip.
>>41417 The good news is that 'artyfags found the video, shit up the comments, and are harassing him. Bad news is that he's probably going to make a video on this and how "toxic" the fans are.
>>41416 >fursona Why is he a furry now?
>>41420 Who's hank?
>>41419 He was pussyfooting around it for a while with a "running joke" that he was really a furry because he liked female anthro characters in the media he reviewed. He started doing reaction streams, then linked up with the woman you see in the thumbnail after asking her about furshit for videos and having her guest star (coincidentally, this is about the time his girlfriend stopped regularly appearing in his videos), and sometime after that he got a "joke" fursona. >>41421 Don't you mean Henk? Hank is a Breaking Bad character. He's a DEA agent chasing the protagonist's alter ego, Heisenberg. This scene is right before Hank's death, which he doesn't see coming but the protagonist, shown in the image, does. At this point, Hank has arrested the protagonist after obsessively tracking him and killing two cartel assassins, which is why he's being killed in the first place. You can connect the dots as to what the joke in the image is.
>>41416 >Video is private wew >>41418 And ignoring his personal army is no different because of his useless warning of: >don't harass these people yadda yadda and stuff It's more of a guilt free self-pat in the back disclaimer. >>41422 Also Hank's actor could easily fit as Curly Howard in case of a new movie of Three Stooges is in the works.
>>41422 Oh I thought hank was some indie game creator. That the twittertard was referencing. Not straight up the character from breaking bad.
>>41421 >>41425 Is a meme https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/walt-screaming-in-a-car The joke on this image >>41420 is that Eyepatch Wolf is a famous YouTuber (and a faggot) that have made some videos essays on obscures games, and every time he does this the community of said game gets ruined by normalfags, one example of this was the Fear & Hunger essay that he made that completely ruined its small fan base and replaced it with niggercattle. on the image the character Walt is yelling to indie devs (Hank) to not mention their game to Eyepatch Wolf
>>41416 Well shit, what did Saber and the furry chick say, because I'm guessing there isn't an archive due to how quickly it got privated? >>41422 Saberspark actually has/had a girlfriend? On a side note, I remember when an actual autistic faggot tried to guilt trip Saberspark into changing one of his thumbnails. Hearing him claim Saberspark is gay honestly gave me a hearty chuckle.
>>41429 >Saberspark actually has/had a girlfriend? Blue or purple hair?
>>41429 >that video What the fuck is this going about? And why do I feel insulted by him talking about autism. God I hate these people.
>>41431 He and the furfag liked it, apparently, and uses his girlfriend to voice his female avatar after he stopped voicing it. He reposts stream highlights on his Patreon, and someone has been maintaining that on Kemono. Should be up eventually. From accounts of it, he >thought the designs were adorable >didn't know what language it was in >didn't read subtitles >liked it but seemed checked out >presented it as anime/softcore porn for views >did not give a shit about the story or characters
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>schizoposting >ecelebs Man, this place gets worse and worse every time I check it, how's that even possible?
>>41456 >schizoposting Point to some examples. >ecelebs Ongezellig is a niche cartoon with a very tight knit and insular community. Exposure by a major e-celeb, especially one as lackluster as Saberspark, could be a death sentence to the existing fanbase particularly because there will be no new official content for it.
>>41416 I hate the sharty as much as the next guy but I hope they are successful in their efforts of shutting him up.
>>41464 >Schizoposting He's probably talking about the waifu thread.
>>41429 >A half-assed doodle is considered a low blow because of some terminal online shenanigans Just like the time when the Nostalgia Critic was shitting on Jim Varney's christmas movie.


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