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Vidya Cartoons Anonymous 06/30/2020 (Tue) 21:02:49 No. 2354
Mega Hi! Cartoons based off of one or more video games or cartoons with a video game theme.

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Did the Scorpion's Revenge movie end up being any good?
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>>2355 >man face Probably not
>>2355 Mortal Kombat isn't even good. Why would an animated movie based around a story already told like 3 or 4 different times be good?
>>2355 It was meh. It's just repeating the story of the first game. The only thing it has going for it is the violence. Your better off just watching the cutscenes of Mortal Kombat 9 instead.
http://invidio.us/watch?v=rZdEZSsIZIs Roll aside, Ruby Spears is exactly what you'd expect a Mega Man cartoon to be and most of what you'd want it to be.
Q*bert had a cartoon?right?
Wasn't there like a rival cartoon to Captain Nintendo? One with a Tomato and a not-Conan like character?
>>2380 Yep. The Power Team. The Conan guy is Kuros from Wizards & Warriors.
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>>2380 Also the tomato guy is Kwirk.
>>2385 Yeah, thats the one, thanks. also, is That Fabio on the 3rd pic?
>>2387 Yes it is.
>>2355 Is it out? And knowing DC's more recent animated movies it'll have that weird half-pause every action and line of dialog the Justice League Dark movies have.
>>2392 It came out in April.
>>2355 It was okay, the first 20 minutes are quite good but the rest is mediocre at its best.
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>>2354 What do you expect from this thing.?
>>2413 Are they actually making a Cuphead cartoon?
>>2415 pls tell me is not Netflix backed
>>2415 >>2416 Netflix is making a Cuphead Cartoon.
>>2416 What's wrong with Netflix, tho?
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>>2420 >What's wrong with Netflix, tho?
>>2422 To be fair, the Death Note adaptation was entertaining, just not in the way they were aiming for. Worth a pirate for laffs. The Castlevania one is a shame unfortunately, the constant quipping and inconsistant tone made it feel like a Marvel flick. At the very least they kept Dracula's motivation for hating humankind in, even if it was presented as a little too "euphoric" if you get my meaning.
>>2422 Castlevania is fine, I guess, I haven't really played the original games, so I can't point if it's a good adaptation, but as a show by itself is fine, but I must be honest and say I only watch it to spend time with a friend, if it were for myself I would have been watching something different instead. I only watched the first episode and I really liked it a lot, but I didn't watch further so I can't point if the rest of the show is at the same level. The rest I can't talk about since I haven't watched them. Regarding Netflix cartoons, some time ago I heard a podcast how they work with animation, I might misunderstood it since english is not my native language, but in the podcast was pointed the only thing they do is consulting, the rest is up to the hired studios, unlike Disney or CN, whom actually have their animation studios, in other words if the final product is good or bad that's entirely up to the people who's working on it, rather than Netflix. I watched the making-of during the Annecy and it looks fine, I guess, not particularly bad either, my main complaint is that they have chosen to make it storyboard driven rather than animation driven like in the original Disney/Fleischer cartoons, but to be fair, people no longer watch cartoons because of the animation.
>>2468 >Castlevania is fine, I guess, I haven't really played the original games, so I can't point if it's a good adaptation, Then it's not fine & you can't comment on it's quality. It's an adaptation. You can't commend it's own merits when it's aping off of an established product.
>>2471 Can you comment on Corpse Bride without having read the original 19 century russian folktale that it's based on? Can you comment on Snow White (1937) despite not knowing about the original german fairy tale? Of course you can, sure, we can discuss the visual appart, storytelling and character design, but we can't say if it's a fidel adaptation from the original source since I haven't read the original material yet. Same applies to Castlevania, notice how I never said it's a good or bad adaptation since I haven't played the games properly, I don't know, so I'm judging the show by itself and in that regard is okay, it has quite well animated scenes, but the animation is stiff most of the time and the characters are emotionless most of the time, S1 is slow AF, Trevor character is boring and Alucard getting raped was funny too out of place, but outside from that, it's okay, it's watchable and enjoyable with a friend and a couple of beers (the way I watched it) I've seen way worse stuff so, heh.
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>>2468 >Castlevania is fine It's shit Anon.
>>2476 Listen here fucker. Those examples are incredibly old while Castlevania as a series is still recent enough in people's minds that people who grew up with it are still around through multiple generations. Furthermore even without playing the actual games & just having bare knowledge of the franchise, the show is still shit. Making the church villains to demonize christianity, making Alucard a bisexual that gets fucked by an asian twink, & inserting swears into every other sentence are just a few of the big problems noticeable even from an outsiders perspective.
>>2479 >Those examples are incredibly old I'm quite sure you get the idea, do you want a more recent example, well, Persepolis is a movie from the 2007 but there's a comic from the 2000s, which it's based on, I first watched the movie without knowing about the comic and I liked a lot, but I couldn't point if it was a fidel adaptation, so I read the comic and then I could say in fact it was very well done adaptation. >Making the church villains to demonize christianity Anon, the show is set on the middle ages, what were you expecting? Not to mention the series doesn't really demonize christianity as a whole, but shows the christian church as filled with ignorant people that use scapegoats when everything goes wrong (You know, like the middle ages catholic church in real life) >making Alucard a bisexual What in are you talking about? Alucard is not bisexual, he got raped. The Twins knew he was borderline suicidal and crazy so they used that factor to their favor. >inserting swears into every other sentence Here I give you a point; maybe it was a thing of the dub, but I didn't remember a lot of swearing, but overall that's kinda distracting and annoying. >even from an outsiders perspective. So, you haven't watched the series? As I said before, my main complaint is the stiff animation plus the lack of interesting characters
>>2489 But it's a fantasy show based on a video game where God, holy powers, holy weapons, & all that exist. There's no point making the church the villains when Dracula with an army of demons exists. It's done purely for fedora tipping purposes. >rape That's not fucking better. It's like that in the original english voices. It's the desperate edgy man's attempt to make a production more "mature". No I'm saying from an outsider's perspective as in someone who's never played the games.
>>2490 > There's no point making the church the villains Anon, understand, the Church is not a villain, you are complaining about something that doesn't even exists in the show, they didn't killed Dracula's wife because they were evil, but they feared Dracula's inventions used by her; they didn't wanted to kill the speakers because they were evil but they were scared of Dracula's beasts and the speakers were the only thing they could blame, they didn't wanted to open the door the hell in Season 2 because they were evil, but they were controlled by a creature of the night. >show based on a video game where God, holy powers, holy weapons, & all that exist They went for a more historical approach, the only ones with magic powers are the Velmond family (Which was eradicated) and the speakers, but outside from that it's a quite regular middle age setting. If it's a good one rather than a fantastical one is up to debate, personally I prefer historical fantasy rather than pure fantasy, but that's a matter of taste.
The scene where Alucard gets fucked in the ass sums up how I feel about Netflix Castlevania.
I haven't even watched beyond Season 1 of Castlevania but >That incredibly low framerate animation, the example that sticks out to me the most is the stone cyclops fight in I think episode 2 or 3 >Trevor and Sypha are both MCU tier quipsters but they say fuck a lot because this is a mature show for mature people, the manual and ending cutscenes for CV 3 made them out to be better characters and those combined don't make more than two paragraphs. >music is shit tier synthshit >voice acting is world class mumbling, especially Trevor's VA >Dracula's barely in the fucking thing >Alucard's this fucking pretty boy faggot instead of the glorious paragon of style he is in SoTN or the standard vampire model he is in CV3 >NO GRANT >No actual monster slaying outside of the cyclops, if you wanted villager shit you should have adapted OoE or something at least you'd have Shanoa in your shit tier show. All I want is cool action punctuated by camaraderie between the four as they make their way and storm Dracula's castle. I want cool ass depictions of classic horror monsters. I want rockin' soundtracks that reference and remix the game soundtracks. I want Grant to give this shitshow a pirate flair. I want actual fucking monster hunting. I don't want the show to drag it's feet for 5 episodes going "duuh the villagers are baaad men and are persecuting the very people who are protecting them, Belmont is a bad boy drunkard who plays by no rules" until 3/4ths of the original cast finally meet up. Alucard was proactive in both the original game and SoTN where he of his own volition went out to fight Dracula instead of oversleeping in his coffin and getting in a shitty barfight with Trevor because they're both rudes dudes. It's just so fucking stupid, you have the coolest fucking setting on the planet and instead you waste it on this shit.
>>2505 >the stone cyclops fight When that fight didn't end with Trevor's knife getting hit by lightning as it pierced the cyclopes I felt that it wasn't made by an actual fan. It was just a hunch at the time but it proved correct as time went on.
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>>2468 >Castlevania is fine if you like nigger washing characters
>>2505 These are quite solid reason to disliking the adaptation. Dracula was my favorite character too, sadly he doesn't have the participation I was expecting. I kinda liked it the music during Dracula's Castle raid, but it lasted just a couple of minutes. The music overall is kinda weak.
>>2506 Remember hearing writers never played the old games
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>>2519 What a disgrace. Why would you even take on an adaptation of decades old video game with out at least familiarizing your self with it? Well at least it's only CV3 they're fucking with and they aren't defiling out precious Maria.
>>2519 >writers never played the old games Source?
>>2524 http://archive.is/tFPMA >“If, like me, you’ve never played the games, it won’t make a blind bit of difference to your enjoyment of the thing...I’m just making it up as I go along. It’s fine!” Warren Ellis
>>2525 Absolutely irredeemable.
>>2523 >Well at least it's only CV3 they're fucking with and they aren't defiling out precious Maria. For now. My biggest fear is them skipping to OoE and adding all sorts of unnecesseary shit to that game's story while ruining the perfection that is Shanoa. Or PoR and ruining CHARLOTTE by having her be 100% perfect and sassy and need no man like JONATHAN whom CHARLOTTE walks all over.
>>2558 Carrie will now be a proud trans woman of color who don't need no man.
>>2565 Please don't joke about things that make me want to kill myself.
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I think the short lived Wing Commander cartoon was pretty good. Sadly it only got like twelve episodes.
Werent there some recent Megaman and Pacman cartoons?
>>2590 Yeah but they were both mediocre.
>>2590 Didn't know there was a Pacman show, but the Megaman one is fine, the thing is it kinda looks like a 3-8 years show rather than a pre-teen, teen one, If I were 5 I would have loved the shit out of it but now I just can't enjoy it. It's weird that there isn't really that much megaman cartoons or media in general, I think specifically the X saga would make a great plot oriented show, but sadly the Sigma Day ova is the closest thing I have and it's not even canon, tried to read the mangas and they are just fucking horrible. >>2592 Why do you think it's mediocre, tho?
>>2590 Yes. Both were shit.
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>>2590 >recent Megaman
>>2596 I totally forgot that little retard inside his head. why did anyone thought that little piece of shit was a good idea, he doesn't add a single shit to the show, it's quite annoying.
>>2596 Remember when the X games had a virus that evolved from simply fucking with certain reploids to decimating technology and dropping space colonies onto the earth, wiping out most of humanity? Good times.
>>2354 The BuddyBoy characters are Paperboy, Megaman, Kid Icarus, Kirby? and who is the short one with the black helmet supposed to be?
>>2565 >>2566 Julius Belmont will be a black man. Fuck, I just realized the only time we'll ever get the War of 1999 show with budget is with Netflix and this fucking edgy Poo-in-the-loo shitting it up
>>2616 That's supposed to be Kirby?!
>>2618 i am not sure, thats why i am asking
>>2616 >>2618 >kirby doubtful; Captain N came out in '89, 3 years before Kirby's Dreamland. This concept art predates that
>>2620 yeah, guess you are right, also, that pink creature has whiskers, still dont know who that and the short one next to it are supposed to be
>>2621 strange as it may sound, I think those might be Lolo and Lala from Adventure of Lolo
>>2630 i was thinking it was bomberman or something like that. Also reading the people that designed the characters back then were trying to translate the designs based of what they saw on the game screen. Nowadays vidya characters are overdetailed and with clear art-materials
>>2643 >the people that designed the characters back then were trying to translate the designs based of what they saw on the game screen Then they should have to be color blind, otherwise why did they made megaman green?
>>2616 I'm honestly not sure. I guess you could try and ask the man himself. He seems to like talking about his old experiences. His DS account is a fount of knowledge and trivia. https://www.deviantart.com/filbarlow/art/Before-Captain-Nintendo-there-was-Buddy-Boy-312281346 https://www.deviantart.com/filbarlow/art/More-Buddy-Boy-318918890 >>2644 >otherwise why did they made megaman green? I still wonder how that happened. The only thinks that I've been able to discover is that 1. It had already happened long before Captain N was Captain N (as is obvious by the picture) and 2. it wasn't Fil Barlow fault because he only did the line art for that pic and not the coloring. I've wondered if someone got a hold of a pic of one of MM subweapon transformations and thought that was Mega's normal color? MM Captain N appearance is like a cross between his Hyper Bomb and Metal Blade color palettes.
>>2643 All of these characters had detailed art all over the manuals and boxes. Granted, in some cases those manuals and boxes were already butchered with localization, but still. In a lot of these cases you literally can't tell what characters they're supposed to be. Plus, you'd think if they had the license, the licensors would want them to at least slightly resemble the source material, but I guess they really just didn't give a shit. But then the creators of the show didn't give a shit either, because they could have asked. They could have pointed out "hey, obviously Mega Man isn't supposed to look like this weird guy on the cover. Could we take a look at the materials from Japan so we could see what they were going for?" Plus, Mega Man 2 was already out before the show, and you do see more detailed pictures of Mega Man every time you beat a boss in that game. Now I know the show would have been in development for a while, but even in the first Mega Man game you see him change into normal clothes at the end of the game, confirming he's supposed to be a normal looking kid and not some kind of gross midget. But they definitely didn't play to the end of the game, given they didn't even know what color he was supposed to be.
>>2489 >>2491 >tip fedora
Part of what makes Castlevania so weak is how the showrunners are obviously embarassed by how they're working on a series where the heroes throw cross boomerangs and the big villain is either practically Satan or is Satan. So the show has some wishy-washy stance where it has bits like that demon telling the bishop he's damned and Lisa saying the devil isn't real (yet there's a Hell somehow) and treating something like holy water as more like elemental magic and a demon being a dead Greek philosopher all together. All that goes in line with the show trying to make Drac look sympathetic when there's apparently no Chaos or Satan to empower/manipulate him and the show never presenting any relevant downsides to being a vampire.
>>3156 One showrunner is an edgy pajeet & the other is Warren Ellis. Supposed sex pest new age hippie that also has never played a single game from the franchise.
>>2615 >Remember when the X games had a virus that evolved from simply fucking with certain reploids to decimating technology and dropping space colonies onto the earth, wiping out most of humanity I wouldn't mind another lighthearted show that takes place before Zero and the X timeline. Having said that, X should have had its own anime years ago. It's how the games felt, and especially so for the intros. >>3156 I refuse to watch season 3, so my opinion will only cover the first two seasons. My main issue is how god awful the pacing is. The protagonists spent most of season 2 in a library, and the only time we got to see them storm the castle was in the last episode. In retrospect. season 1 was indicative of how shit the rest of the series was going to be rather than just a rough first go. It's crazy to think how simple a series about vampires and vampire hunters should be, but Netflix still managed to fuck it up. >>2507 Hector was a tranny, so I'd rather he not show up at all.
>>3169 There's a Mega Man X ova that came with the X1 remake on the PSP, I thought it was good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-lgTS_BZPs
>>3214 The ova is fine, but honestly it just makes me want more >>3169 >It's how the games felt, and especially so for the intros. Do not forget the animated sequences from X4, those were cool as fuck.
>>3157 >Supposed sex pest Spreading feminist rumors is only playing into the hands of the people responsible for ruining this series and many others. If it wasn't for them destroying others before Ellis, we may have had a more qualified individual get this series. We may have had a culture that wouldn't be embarrassed to be making a tv show based on this.
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Warren Ellis Will Not Return for Future Castlevania Seasons >Warren Ellis was among one of the more famous, powerful figures accused by dozens of women of sexual misconduct over the years, allegedly exploiting and emotionally abusing young women for over a decade >Ellis himself posted a written response to misconduct allegations last, admitting to making "bad choices" while denying he felt he was in a position of power and that he "never consciously coerced, manipulated, or abused anyone." At this rate everyone i nthe industry will be exposed as a sex pest. https://archive.is/jhcqd#selection-827.0-831.190
>>3424 all comics made by women and gays except /pol/ gets the gays canceled so it's just women
>>3424 Another one bites the dust
>>3424 On one hand good, on the other whoever they'll get to replace Ellis will be worse and you know, they'll try doubling down on bullshit just so they can go "Look we don't have a(n outed) sex pest anymore!" Castlevania's still ruined anyways, video game wise and show wise.
>>3424 Well, now the only thing Ellis has left is his Image work and royalties. Given that Image is fine with John Roc Upchurch, Ellis won't be booted. Ellis' alleged grooming of 20 year old fangirls is nothing compared to Upchurch's wifebeating he was arrested for, abandoning his kids, alleged rape, abuse, and missed child support/alimony payments. I wonder who will be next.
>>3214 That OVA was great. Capcom could have made so much money by giving every X entry its own OVA at the very least. Four episodes per entry would have been enough to give the series more staying power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYlYHJ4P4A8
>>3445 >That music God, despite the game mostly sucking without some self imposed challenges it's my favorite. >Capcom would have made so much money by giving every X entry its own OVA That would have been valid if they actually gave a shit and made more games in the style of Maverick hunter, adding more content and playable characters instead of halfassing it with overpriced collections that add little to nothing to the games.
>>3445 X4 had full animated cut scenes https://youtu.be/ppKAi63EHRo >>3446 I hope someday someone would make a proper Megaman animated adaptation.
>>3459 There was also a Mega Man arcade game that that fully animated cut scenes.
>>2505 It was a smart choice anon. It's shit for reasons like >>2519 absolute garbage. >>2507 I could stomach the nigger washing, i could not stomach the butchering and wasting of characters and storylines. >>2523 She's not going to appear why would she the adaption is pretty much SOTN all they'd do is rehash the overall plot.
This is like a /pol/ shithole just like the last 8chan. Why am I even here.....
>>3689 Because you're a strong person who can tolerate the offensive opinions of others.
>>3689 >anything that calls out SJWs is /pol/ Not wanting shit ruined by SJWs inserting their political shit into it isn't /pol/. You're just a tumblrfag. Just go back there. Or to any of the other websites you already ruined and chased normal people out of.
>>3689 Complaining about a bad Castlevania adaption isn't /pol/. Making a Castlevania game should be the easiest thing in the world. It's just a buff Conan looking guy doing the monster mash with a whip and maybe the odd boomerang cross or vial of holy water. Completely stretching the setting and characters out of shape requires an extreme amount of either stupidity or malice.
>>3695 >Making a Castlevania game Meant Castlevania cartoon.
>>3689 >website populated by GamerGaters <"Why are you complaining about SJWs? This is just a /pol/ shithole!"
>>3689 There's just one guy bitching about thinks that doesn't even exists in the first place in the castlevania cartoon, the other ones actually gave solid arguments, and for the last couple of weeks we've discussing mega man animated adaptations, so, I don't see why are you complaining about the /pol/ thing ITT. >>3695 Actually good visual storytellers are very scarce in the industry, which is weird, since animation is a visual medium in the first place, the reason why script driven shows are the majority is just a mystery to me.
>>3698 >the reason why script driven shows are the majority is just a mystery to me. I would say it's animation costs but if that were the case you would think that they wouldn't make action driven series and would focus more on drama or slice of life like how the Japanese do with the majority of their cartoons.
>>3701 I think visual storytelling is not majority in Japan either considering the animation is stiff most of the time, shows trend to have a lot of dialogue and explanations what's going on to save animation effort. Regarding cartoons in general I just can recall a handy of shows like primal and The Midnight Gospel. I think it's more commonly done in short films, for instance most Pixar, Gobelins or CK shorts even the bad ones use visual storytelling, but then again I find weird that it's not more common in the medium in general.
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>cartoons What about comicbooks?
I just found my DVD copy of the Zelda cartoon. I got it for like a dollar, but never watched it.
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DUH-NUH
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>>3459 There was that promo for the 90s cartoon which used the game's art style, but obviously that iteration didn't get made into a full series. It might have been made by the same studio that made the edutainment OVA instead of Ruby Spears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfoeasCeh44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUNuuqlPNwQ >>3462 Neither of the arcade games really had animation but Super Adventure Rockman on PS1 and Saturn was an FMV game with like an hour of animation. It looks a lot cheaper than 8 and X4's cutscenes, though. Video unrelated.
I will never not make fun of how Netvania made Dracula as bad as Cartoon Hitler (since he was genocidal against all humans and didn't have a higher power controlling/manipulating him like in the games) but still made him some sad tortured science man. Doubly since they gave no real drawbacks to being a vampire (which raises the question on how come Dracula didn't just turn Lisa into one).
>>6224 Dracula was a scientist hermit (aka tortured scientist man) until he met his wife, who convinced him to give his knowledge to humanity, but then they killed her because middle ages ignorance and he went crazy. >which raises the question on how come Dracula didn't just turn Lisa into one Maybe because her wife was already dust when he could do anything about it? Idk so far it's not really clear how vampire conversion works.
>>6288 >Dracula was a scientist hermit Motherfucker that was never Dracula in the Castlevania franchise, its dumb retarded shit made by a hack writer who got himself fired from the show for being a sex pest.
>>6305 Dracula in the games was a crusader who got mad at God because his original wife died, so he back stabbed his best friend Leon Belmont to become Vampire Satan. Which created the entire cycle of the Belmonts coming to defeat Dracula every 100 years. I know netflix shit all over Trevor Belmont, and are probably going to do Simon dirty too.
>>6288 He also killed people for disrespecting him pretty based
>>6305 It's pretty clear that the Castlevania Cartoon Is not a good adaptation from the games, but the point here is that he wasn't a 'cartoon Hittler' just because he had some kind of motivations. By the way, people keep bringing the fact that the cartoon is not a good adaptation from the games, it's pretty clear at this point that's the case, but have you tried to see it as a separated independent thing? Like just share the charactees and premise but nothing else whatsoever?
>>6319 After the zombie priest bullshit, the over used "everyone is a scientist" trope and the homo shit, no. People came to watch Castlevania not another fanfic wearing the franchise like a skinned corpse.
>>6319 I tried but personally I'm not a fan of the style of writing or the limit fps animation style. Otherwise I would probably be all over that greek mythology show they're making.
>>6288 Dracula was a scientist hermit (aka tortured scientist man) until he met his wife, who convinced him to give his knowledge to humanity, but then they killed her because middle ages ignorance and he went crazy. >implying that Dracula wasn't shown to be an unrepentant mass murderer before meeting Lisa (which Lisa was never really shown caring about what with her death speech) Game Dracula even if Mathias was Vlad III was not said to be massacring towns before meeting Lisa. And he was manipulated by Chaos while having the side-effects of vampirism. >middle ages ignorance okay reddit >Maybe because her wife was already dust when he could do anything about it? Idk so far it's not really clear how vampire conversion works It's pointed out that Dracula could've turned Lisa but didn't. Being a vampire has no drawbacks (they keep their own minds, they aren't too deformed, are immortal and young as long as they keep feeding) and Lisa never showed she had a problem with feeding on humans to live. >>6319 >It's pretty clear that the Castlevania Cartoon Is not a good adaptation from the games, but the point here is that he wasn't a 'cartoon Hittler' just because he had some kind of motivations. Netflixvania's Dracula tries to genocide a whole country (instead of just one certain big nosed ethnicity) rather than just killing off the local church and going away with his science forever. In the games, it was an angry mob that burned Lisa hence Dracula declaring war on humanity. Here some cartoon villain bishop orders it and yet it doesn't occur to Dracula to just wipeout the Eastern Orthodox. And he's supposed to be sympathetic despite getting a worse relative bodycount than Meme Hitler if he won. I assume from Leftoid Disdain For Humans/World ("ugu humans are scum i hate being alive also black lives matter ugh i'm cooooooming"). Same thing that got us Legend of Korra's 2nd Season.
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These four screenshots have more love for the franchise than the rest of Fully Charged put together. I have to think it was all the work of one background artist acting on his own.
>>8554 That one of X riding a bike looks fucking cool, I hope there are full size versions out there
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>>8559 The bike one is this boxart for X2, but it's been edited slightly, which is still cool. I don't recognize the other paintings off the top of my head though.
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>>8563 I think those are the bikes from X4-X5 instead of the bike from X2.
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>>8564 I made a gif, tried to line it up as best I could. It's literally traced from the X2 boxart, with some parts like X's helmet and the front and back of the bike altered.
>>2596 Is there at least a cute Roll in this cartoon?
>>2355 Mediocre, just like the games themselves. >Man face Cammy knockoff (I forgot her name) Yeah, now I remember why I never liked this mediocre franchise, other reason being the games' lore being fucking retarded. >>3424 >Rapist Just to mirror Konami's treatment to their IPs. >>6211 I'M HARD, MAN
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>>2374 What about the lion men, magical genie, and robot devolver? Would you expect that from a Mega Man cartoon? >>8571 No, Roll got replaced by a brown human girl that's Light's biological daughter. As I was fact-checking myself for this post I also found out she's Zero in the comic series.
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>>8592 >Roll got blacked I'm a little upset.
>>8593 You can be a bit less upset knowing she technically wasn't blacked, they just replaced her with a different character entirely. There's a bit more dignity in that.
>>8592 >They turned Zero into a nigger Man, this is stupid.
>>8563 First one has Gutsman's Ass (from Ruby Spear's cartoon), Gutsman (classic/Powered up?) next to one of the BN viruses, and X holding Iris.
>>8592 I am angry.
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>>8592 there are many things that need to be erased at least they left Kalinka Cossack out of that mess
>>8554 >>8563 I think the first image's one on the left is a redrawing of X5's ending with Zero's death, or x4 with Iris'.
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>>8627 You're right, it's Zero holding Iris in X4..
>>8582 Sonya wasn't always man-faced and Mortal Kombat wasn't always cucked. It's a very recent development. It was all cool until Mortal Kombat X. Before then it was full of hot babes. And with digitized graphics, it was like you were fighting real hot babes and not just cartoons. And if you played as Johnny Cage, you could punch them right in the cunt.
>>8625 I completely forgot she even existed. >>8629 >Mortal Kombat wasn't always cucked. Indeed, ironically it was a product of its time and should have been buried when MidWay broke. Don't you love it when corporations pretend to be everyone's best buddy?
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>>8637 >Indeed, ironically it was a product of its time and should have been buried when MidWay broke. Arguably it should have been put to pasture before it went 3D but definitely it should have gone out with Midway.
>>8554 >>8628 I wish the images were a bit clearer and in higher res, but I'm gonna go on a limb and say that the fourth image's one in the middle looks bleak enough to be something out of Megaman Zero or ZX.
>>8637 >I completely forgot she even existed. everyone forgets MM4, but it's easily one of my favorites Kalinka appears in 4 games (MM4, Rockboard, Soccer (okay, it's a kunio-kun reskin) and Xover (reviled as it is)) and is referenced in Legends 2 (an entire continent is named after her and she's on magazine cover graphics on said continent)
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>>8649 She was going to appear in Battle Network 3, but they couldn't find anything to do with her. If she wound up appearing in any kind of continuation (likely mobileshit), her navi is essentially guaranteed to be TundraMan.exe, since all the MM4 robot masters have navi counterparts already.
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I legit suspect they really didn't include Death in Netflixvania since they didn't want to deal with the implications of having a divine being/angel serve Dracula. Considering the awkard stance the show has on whether God/Hell is real or not.
>>3689 Warren Smellis is a rapist and kikeflixvania is trash. Deal with it faggot.
>>8825 The show runners are edgy fedora tippers. It's why religion is treated so poorly in the show.
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>>8832 Then perhaps they should have picked anything other than Castlevania to make a show around.
>>8833 That's the problem with modern "creators". They only pick things that are recognizable names but don't actually care about the legacies these things created. They just wanna use the brand. Then the morons wonder why their projects fail.
>>8834 Honestly, one of the big issues I have with Netflixvania is that it both takes itself WAYYY too seriously (and I don't mean having Rick and Morty style edge) yet it it still has that "lol we're so quirky since we're faggots and talk about our body filth" shit you see in reddit and memey. Castlevania was always a B-Movie Horror flick framed through a Japanese lens we're the characters took what they're doing seriously but the world was still zany. Even in SotN and other IGA games there was always an element of wackyness like fighting a Dio Brando ripoff.
>>8848 Yeah this is really something that should've been done by actual japanese creatives. Not a studio in Austin animating in a low framerate pseudo anime style with writing by a self conscious indian edgelord & a fat fedora tipper.
>>8859 All I ever wanted was something visually stunning on the level of either Vampire Hunter D movie. Instead I got 10 frames a second animation and shitty marvel quipping.
>>8833 Like I said, the show has an awkward stance on whether God/Hell is real (and by extension Christianity is the right theology) or not. You have both Lisa saying the Devil isn't real and the Bishop getting told by a demon he's damned. The Devil Forgemasters make demons and the undead Bishop can use Holy Water meaning it's just element magic. Vampires are just the "New Man" with muh scientists wizards.
>>8980 To be fair, even in the games it seems to be that the Devil doesn't exist, while God does. Dracula is the ultimate being of evil that counterbalances God, which is a core plot point in Dawn of Sorrow, though I don't know who held the position before him.
>>8981 Dracula is powered by Chaos, in the Soma Cruz games you fight against Chaos as the final boss. Dracula is just the preferred avatar of Chaos just as it could be said that the Belmonts/Morrises are the avatars of order Castlevania itself seems to be the truest embodiment of chaos, it’s layout changing every time Dracula is resurrected.
>>9020 In Aria you fight against chaos. In Dawn you just fight against the amalgamation of monster souls Dimitrii tried to contain. The main antagonist of Dawn is specifically trying to make a new Dracula because she believes for God to exist there also needs to be an opposite to Him, and that was what Dracula was. Alucard confirms that to be the case, too, only he says not to worry about the absence of Dracula as it will basically sort itself out naturally.
>>8981 >the Devil doesn't exist >GIVE ME POWER Dracula has been established since CV3 as drawing power from dark forces. Soma's games just tell more on that element of his character. The show ignoring Dracula ultimately not being the source but himself following a script made him lose one of the things that made him legit sympathetic even when he sought to conquer/cull humans. That and vampirism by itself being corruptive.
>>9054 Dracula gets some his power from outside forces, yes, but it's never been the Devil or other similar figure of evil. The closest there's been to a single entity responsible for his power was the castle's heart of chaos Soma beat in AoS, and, even after it and the castle were destroyed, Soma still retained significant power just by being Dracula's incarnate, no outside forces necessary. DoS makes it very clear, as well, that Dracula served the role of God's opposite until his "permanent" death in 1995, which then left the spot vacant. And while he may have been "following a script" after his resurrections, his actions in CV3 were very much his own. He got mad about Lisa dying and took action against humanity much like how he got mad about Elisabetha dying and took action against God. It's hard to blame his actions on outside influences or his own vampirism when, before he ever became a vampire or ruled over darkness, he plotted to have his best friend's fiance kidnapped by a vampire so she would be sacrificed to make a whip that said best friend would use to kill said vampire, so all he could become a vampire himself just to flip the bird to God.
>>2422 I actually fooled myself into "liking" bright until I managed to remember the movie properly, I just wanted a shadowrun movie.
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Don't tell me if this true but: >Super Mario film developed by the same generic studios whose one hit wonder are the Minions >Voiced by the capeshit cast, including Dyke Larson as Princess Peach >Everything was alright to Miyamoto >Told Charles Martinet and the female voice actresses to go fuck themselves during casting >Not even Walker Boone got to voice Mario Can't wait to see Yoshi being voiced by one the niggers from SNL.
>>9240 Take your meds ya crazed schizo.
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It's like puking on a pile of shit.
>>9241 How the fuck am I a schizo if this >>9243 keeps happening? How dare I question the likes of Jewywood.
>>9279 >How the fuck am I a schizo if this >>9243 keeps happening? Because you pay attention and have decent pattern recognition, that makes you a schizo in the eyes of normalniggers and other fuckwits who won't pay attention to the long-existent subversion of western media.
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>>9288 >Use the boogeyman for marketing points >Hence why reddit's cattle forgive and forget and keep consooming shit >Rinse and repeat
Netflixvania is an example of how "heroism" today is about being a gamma male. Trevor is an edgy outcast and only helps other outcasts immediately. Same shit that gets us reddit and memey (scientist aka wizard saves world he holds in contempt). Throw in the "ugh humies are scum who won't do what i want them to/let me do what i want to also giggle giggle i'm so quirky" shit too. It'd be nice to find someone yapping about how much they hate man not have a problem with calling a Nigger a Nigger and that fags are degenerates who belong in camps.
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https://archive.vn/CVa2b There was almost a Rock Man anime in 1992, but it stalled during pre-production (that's why these sketchs are so rough). Some concepts were reused for Ruby-Spears Mega Man.
>>9082 >Dracula gets some his power from outside forces, yes, but it's never been the Devil or other similar figure of evil. Chaos is Canon Castlevania's Devil figure. It was created from humanity's darkness and will always be around as long as there are humans. >The closest there's been to a single entity responsible for his power was the castle's heart of chaos Soma beat in AoS, and, even after it and the castle were destroyed, Soma still retained significant power just by being Dracula's incarnate, no outside forces necessary. Chaos cannot be destroyed, not for good, as long as there are humans. And Soma never achieves his full might unless he becomes the Dark Lord. >It's hard to blame his actions on outside influences or his own vampirism when, before he ever became a vampire or ruled over darkness, he plotted to have his best friend's fiance kidnapped by a vampire so she would be sacrificed to make a whip that said best friend would use to kill said vampire, so all he could become a vampire himself just to flip the bird to God. It's shown in the Canon Castlevania that vampirism warps you. Lecarde's daughters for one. Dracula being treacherous and scheming before doesn't mean becoming a vampire had no effect on him. And that's all relevant since the show treats vampires as just "better" humans.
CONFIRMED >Valve's League of Legends The Anime https://archive.is/wiImU Place your bingo sheets. >Directed by the Voltron faggots >Replace the main cast with the retards from Funanimation >Animated by low wage slaves from third world shitholes >Anime artstyle because "muh taboo shit" >Someone gets accused of sexual allegations >1st episode is alright, but 2nd everything will go downhill and starts from there.
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>>8554 >Gutsman's ass is there Holy shit my sides.
>>9667 >>Valve's League of Legends >>Valve's League of Legends >>Valve's League of Legends >>Valve's League of Legends
>>9755 Didn't you know that Gabe Newell made League of Legends just after he completed work on Terraria?
So you all hear about the Devil May Cry show which has the Castlevania Pajeet working on it
>>9983 Consider it dead Anon.
>>9983 Was there supposed to be a DMC cartoon? My dad would have loved that
>>9667 They are going to use generic anime character design instead of the stylized character design from the game which totally disappoints me. I'll put it as the kind of show I can stand with some friends a beer and a pizza but otherwise I wouldn't be giving a shit about them
>>9755 That's how much it sucks.
Looking over a video going over Hector and Isaac story in the games reminds me of how the writing in the show was bad enough to point out Dracula trying to kill everyone will starve all the vampires when that wasn't ever noted in the games (after all, there are plenty of other non-vampire monsters in the game's world and besides it's not confirmed that vampires in Castlevania's universe NEED to eat human blood as opposed to just any blood, plus there's magic and soul stealing even).
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I'm not sure if I should be surprised they didn't put Julia in Netflixvania and make her a Nig too or not. The degenerates making it like others in showbusiness hate White Men but want to muh dik White Women so they let Darkies like Netflix Hector do it.
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>>9983 Oh yeah sure thing netflix, keep making shitty generic scripts for all the vidya that would have made very interesting shows, and then outsourcing the animation to cheap trashfactory korean studios and call it anime. Go fuck yourself Netflix.
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>>10038 As fas as I know Netflix doesn't work in their animated shows, they only buy projects to other studios. Wheter the final product is going to be good or not is up to the animation studio. I've seen other projects from Powerhouse (the animation studio that produced Castlevania) and all of them are generic and cheap as fuck, specially regarding animation. It's rather go fuck yoursel Powerhouse. That said, still, Netflix allows a market for this shitty anf cheap "american anime"
>>10046 >Blood of Zeus Thank you for reminding me this shit exists instead of a decent mythology animated.
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>>10049 there's always The Mighty Hercules (1963-1966)
make predictions for castlevania's next season >trevor and sypha go "wahhh humanity is bad" until they see some small thing to make them decide genocide is bad >alucard goes "wahhh humanity is bad" until he sees some small thing to make him fight for muh social justice/ideals >lenoire gets away with it >isaac gets some nigger redemption >dracula is there i guess
>>10052 Looks like a mediocre Saturday Morning, are you serious or just memeing?
>>10721 it's from the early 60s, of course it looks mediocre but you can generally be assured of Heracles being Heracles and a minimum of social justice bullshit
What was the point of showing vampires eat food in season 3 if Dracula killing all humans would've starved them supposedly If they can eat food then they don't need blood. Lenoir only says blood is is their essential nourishment and that doesn't mean they need to drink human blood just (like how a traditional diet would be essential nourishment).
Oy. This'll be shit.
>>11859 >screen shotting a screen shot on discord
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>>2354 Get on MY level, faggots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gjgK2WgQcU Watched all of these the day there were aired.
Castlevania Season 4 bad
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>>12937 You dont say?
>>13604 They had one of the hordes of Niggers in Medieval Central Europe say they were always there
So what was the point of Hector in the show? He never really accomplished anything.
https://www.cbr.com/new-castlevania-series-netflix-richter-belmont >Richter Of course they skip right to SotN.
>>13935 or to Rondo or worst case scenario Vampire's Kiss
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So the guy who replaced Lou Albano in the Super Mario DiC cartoons died in January but until now they finally revealed his death, yet the cause remains unknown.
>>13935 Can't wait to see them ruin the second coolest Belmont. This show had better not make it to the War of 1999. I do not want to see what they'll do to Julius.
>>9240 Confirmed: >Capeshit actor to play as Bing Bing Man >Faggot from Always Sunny from Philadelphia as Gay Luigi >Literally Who shovelhead as Peach >Dude Weed Lmao as Donkey Kong >Fat Adam Sandler as Bowser >Nigger as Toad >Guido as the jew foreman >Another nigger as Kamek >Another literally who as Cranky Kong Miyamoto just named one of the actors role, are we seeing another Scoob?
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>>18001 >Nigger as Toad This one, of all the castings, I don't actually have an issue with (I might if I had heard of the actor before). Toad's voice was done by pic related in western releases of Mario Kart 64, which was effectively Toad's first voice in an official game because all the later toad voices are based on the western version, not the Japanese voice (which is terrible). The current actress experiences physical damage when doing Toad's voice for long, so that's not viable for a long movie, and Toad has had the most VAs of any post-SM64 Mario character.
>>18039 Key can't don't voices. He's always just himself. So it's going to be sassy black Toad the whole movie.
>>18040 Considering it's directed by the Teen Titans Go guy, one can already foresee Toad flirting on Peach.
>>18058 It's like this movie is designed to hurt.
>>18058 If that's the case, either Luigi or Bowser is gonna twerk. But maybe it won't be as bad as the 1993 movie.
>>18063 Are you kidding? It won't be half as good as that masterpiece.
>>18064 Yeah, you're right. It's'a gonna suck and all the Mario fans are gonna cry.
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>>2468 >Castlevania is fine, I guess, I haven't really played the original games, so I can't point if it's a good adaptation, but as a show by itself is fine It really isn't. People wouldn't be so forgiving to it if it wasn't a animated video game adaptation. >>3480 >I could stomach the nigger washing, i could not stomach the butchering and wasting of characters and storylines. The writer was too in love with his OC in everything but name.
>>18085 >People wouldn't be so forgiving to it if it wasn't a animated video game adaptation On the contrary, I'm pretty sure most of the backlash comes from the fact this is an adaptation, this show would've passed as mediocre at worst if they made an original IP instead.
>>18086 >this show would've passed as mediocre at worst if they made an original IP instead. Nah, it definitely wouldn't be talked about as much though and it's cancerous fanbase wouldn't be shit talking the source material either.
>>18098 I mean, there are other powerhouse shows like Seis manos and Blood of Zeus which are as bad as Castlevania but they don't get nearly as much backlash. >it definitely wouldn't be talked about as much though and it's cancerous fanbase wouldn't be shit talking the source material either. I agree with that part, tho.
>>18098 >and it's cancerous fanbase wouldn't be shit talking the source material either. Post some of that shit and prove it. I feel like becoming fuck angry today.
>>18070 >It's'a gonna suck and all the Mario fans are gonna cry. Based.
>>18102 >but they don't get nearly as much backlash. They don't get as much praise or even attention so what the Hell is your point?
>>18127 I already stated it, if this was an original IP instead of a Castlevania adaptation no one would have cared about It. >They don't get as much praise or even attention You are just proving my point
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>>18130 My point is that people aren't overly critical of because it is a Castlevania show. People who praise it don't know much Castlevania lore or most cases haven't actually played the games. They just praise the Castlevania show because it superficially resemble the games and it isn't live action and/or a recycled script repurposed to be about a specific IP. Or starring a OC don't steal based on the director's wife. They just say stupid bullshit like it being a good adaptation because of references and easter eggs for NerdCred™. It also helps that season 1 was the script that was heavily tardwrangled by Iga. In season 2, the tardwrangling was gone but it had to continue from season 1 so it didn't look like a complete mess that was season 3. Season 3 is what got normalfags upset so they had to backtrack from it virtually making it a filler arc.
>>18143 >people aren't overly critical Where do you find those people? everyone I've talked to online points out how badly adapts the games and how mediocre it is overall, but I also have to add that I've only discussed it on places like this one.
>>18070 Considering the games have gotten stale since the Wii U era, just a few hurrah's here and there. >>18126 The best is yet to come: It'll be a success at the box office, so get ready for redditors willing to suck off their corporate overlords.To think Seth Rogen bailed out psychopath dykes demolishing streets and the next day he gets paid for voicing Donkey Kong.
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>>18062 >There won't be a film where it unites both the surviving DiC cast or the CD-i cast with the official cast. >Both DiC Mario & Luigi's voice actors and their replacements are dead >It seems Miyamoto really pushed to have the familiar faces that everyone already knows but the shini curse happened <Most likely it won't be a remake of the Kyoto Animations' take on Super Mario's universe, the one whose mastercopy is gone forever. I call it bullshit if they're basing the story on the Nintendo Power comics though. >>18168 >Mark/v/ will continue seetheing over it because their whore waifus are getting railed by big nigger cocks. I think that's more of a GahooleChan thing, specially the autists who have a wall covered with their favorite underage has been's
In other news: The new official Resident Evil porn parody will suck big black cocks, but that shit is live action. The side effects of forgiving Crapcuck's doubling down their catering to mulatos.
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>>18110 Just look up anything to do with these cunt's and you'll find your ragebiat
>>18194 Let me guess, lesbian vampires who are somehow at the top of the foodchain, probably hold dracula's leash too? I really haven't watched anything of that show beyond Season 1. Between the animation, music and general writing I fucking hated everything about it.
>>18085 They obviously planned for Isaac to be the villain after Dracula dies but walked back on it for some weak redemption plot/pushing him as some edgy antihero. >>18254 Nah they didn't interact with Dracula. Still just woke OCs like Isaac or Greta Danesti (the show's Grant who's a bi negress in Central Europe leading a whole bunch of refugees in Central Europe).
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>>18284 >(the show's Grant who's a bi negress in Central Europe leading a whole bunch of refugees in Central Europe) Why? Why? WHY THE FUCK?
>>18254 They formed their own faction, they were saying "yeah we are going to fuck the world and conquer humanity" since S2 and basically didn't do a shit with them showing how mediocre writters they are. >>18284 I suppose that happened on S4, since I don't remember anythong of that from the other three seasons.
>>18285 https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Greta >muh come from nowhere we wuz kangz >slut who laughs about being a homewrecker Her being paired with Alucard makes it obvious she's just the showrunner's OC.
>>18284 >>18285 >>18288 All of a sudden I regret kicking Ellis out, the reason he shoved Grant out of the show was retarded but at least he wasn't raped like the others were (literally in Alucard's case).
Also, considering how hard the first season pushed reddit brand anti-Catholic woke history (stronk womyn scientist kept down by Church who gets with tortured sad scientist man aka how redditnigger/lolbergnerd/supreme soylord sees himself then she gets burned just for muh scientist) I doubt that IGA gave a shit about keeping the show in line with the games or actually knew what they were doing for the show. He just saw some bits of it that were similar enough and said k.
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>>18288 >at the bottom it says she isn't actually supposed to be Grant >she just shares a lot with him So they pulled what Disney did to Kyle Katarn and just replaced him with an OC donut steel
>>18288 You know even with how the show went downhill in the later seasons went, I was at least hoping I'd get to see Grant so the whole gang would be together. That's all I fucking wanted.
that Ratchet & Clank movie
>>18323 Come and buy a pixelizer!
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>>18323 At least it was just boring and not offensively bad. It didn't do the series justice, but at least it didn't go out of its way to ruin things. But yeah, it's pretty painful that the original game actually has character arcs and let Ratchet & Clank be interesting people with an actual conflict, while the movie removed all that and just made them boring and generic protagonists. The way Qwark was handled was also not quite as interesting. All that said, I like that the game based on the movie establishes that the movie is a movie in the universe of the original games, with Qwark pointing out that it isn't at all accurate. And then the game is Qwark telling the "real" version, so it also isn't accurate.
>>18325 In general Ratchet became too sanitized after deadlocked. All he does now is bitch about his lost, dead, missing people.
>>18327 All of Ratchet and Clank just became a giant furry capeshit game (hence the "muh lost race" shit and forcing Nefarious into everything once the devs realized he's popular). The OG trilogy with Deadlocked and Secret Agent Clank was a satire of consumerism and corporate mismanagement and the entertainment industry (hence one of the villains in the 3rd game being a robot Britney Spears). They rebooted the franchise to make it capeshit, especially when woke capital had been a thing for quite awhile (contra to leftie coping men in big business aren't cigar chomping Republicans nor is capitalism even contrary to actually existing leftism).
No one talks enough on how bad the writing for Dracula is >"How about we make Dracula try to kill everyone but have talk about it'll kill all vampires to show how clever we are for making the villian look like a joke"
>>18284 >They obviously planned for Isaac to be the villain after Dracula dies but walked back on it for some weak redemption plot/pushing him as some edgy antihero. I haven't watched Season 3 or Season 4 because of how bad Season 2 was. However, it seems like the "B plot" takes more of the show than the A(ctual) plot. Season 1 is 4 episodes and it is all A Plot. Season 2 is 8 and half is dedicated to the "B Plot". Season 3 was a filler arc for everything but Isaac B-2 Plot. Season 4 was half B-Plot as B-2 Plot resolved itself before even having anything to do with the B-1 Plot. Season 1 = 0 Season 2 = 4 Season 3 = 5 Season 4 = 5 14/(32 - 5 filler episodes) = roughly 51.85% of the show was dedicated to Isaac's plot.
>>18344 But they didn't reboot it. Also, one could argue the focus on corporatism was left wing at the time. Of course, things have changed significantly since then, so now they would never touch corporatism the way the early games did, because the left now openly loves it.
>>18418 More or less. It especially doesn't help that Hector was never important to actual plot. Hector's really there for some girlboss domineering thing. >>18429 The original games are in practice impossible to be in the same universe as the nu ones from their tonal/style clashes. >anti-corporate is leftist It's actually not. Actually Existing Leftism outside of real fringes never had an ingrained opposition to unaccountable bureaucrats or rootless businessman in themselves. Merely that they use their power for "evil." Marx himself supported "capitalism" as a means to subvert traditional societies. Actually Existing Leftism isn't even solidly against Western technology or organization considering how widespread We Wuz Kangz history is now (reconciling their hatred for their own genetics and non-Europeans hated for Europe with how dependent they are on Euro tech and government styles by denying any claim Euros have to them) and only supports non-White societies insofar they can be acceptable within the woke world. See here for more on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8
Much of castlevania's quality can be attributed to a dogshit animation studio that can't bother animating over 3 frames a second, godawful music and deciding that "Manly monster hunter storms castle of virgin who hasn't seen the sun in years, kills monsters from classic horror stories and movies, fucks top tier magic pussy and makes friends with pirates and vampires" wasn't an interesting enough concept to animate so it had to add all of this no fun allowed dour and depressing shit to make it an "adult mature show for adult mature" niggers. Fucking sick of it, just lose yourself and make something fun for once, please.
>>18782 How do you know thay guy is phoneposting?
>>18783 Simple I called the guy out on his bullshit social sexual hierarchy crap, and point out some commentary relevant to the Castlevania show. And then he just retorts with something less than bait with no context. That's a phone poster.
Begone redditor
>>18742 >The animators at powerhouse are clearly talented Are they? I haven't seen them put out anything decent yet and their insistence on giving their female characters crimson chin tier square jaws pisses me off to no end.
>>18802 >>18802 Fyi I was referring to reels from animators that did work for powerhouse like this guy here : https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=i7L19SOqbNM And just as I mentioned Powerhouse can hire talented animators but half of the problem is uninspired American side directors, storyboarders and writers wrecking good talent. Once again if they had anybody else running that joint like even a Richard Williams, we get to see the proper talent shine.
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>We won't be seeing them on the new Mario movie.
>>2355 >Franchise built exclusively on gratuitous gore ultraviolence >No named character is allowed to die because the fans would whine like stuck pigs What is the point of a MK adaptation?
>>20727 What gets me even more is that really none of these movies need to follow the game's 'plot' continuity so they can so very easily just have characters die and it being "final" due to something being a standalone movie with a standalone plot. They could also very much dip into resurrection, revenants or time travel shenanigans to kill a character and then bring them back.
>>20727 >>20728 Many characters have died in the games. And yes, they find ways to bring them back in later games. Movies can do that just as well. Mortal Kombat Annihilation should have had Johnny Cage come back as a ghost for the climax of the movie or something.
>>20758 Should've brought their children including the niggers' from the future and have them killed, they're fucking irritating on the new MK.
Is Arcane worth shit if I've never touched LoL? Everyone seems to swear up and down by it and to be honest some of the clips I've watched it looks kind of pretty even if the characters are far from it >>20789 I really find it funny they introduced four new 'main' characters in MKX only to bring back the least interesting two in 11. But then again the plots in the games are retarded and I'm glad they didn't even try.
>>21170 >Is Arcane worth shit if I've never touched LoL? Sure, give it a shot, man. I didn't know anything about LoL either but I enjoyed the show.
Was there even a good vidya cartoon?
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>>21215 Sonic SatAM is genuinely great
>>21215 Earthworm Jim was good.
>>21215 The F-Zero and Bomberman anime were very good.
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>>21215 The Warcraft 3 animated series is currently the best thing of YouTube right now.
>>21229 Wait. Why? Is it because the remake was a flop? So they've now put the story in a cartoon?
>>21241 It's not official, it's a fan series made by an argentinian guy using WoW models and WC3 sounds and dialogues, if you are interested in WC3 then give It a shot, It does a really good job on adapting the Game's storyline.
>>21361 >some Argentenian guy is making a more faithful WoW adaptation than Hollywood could with unlimited resources and millions of dollars Nice.
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I want a sequel to the movie. It was great and the Orkess made me... feel things.
>>21378 >great I mean from what little I looked up on the lore, it was mostly kind of accurate. The problems with the movie come from the bizarre choices of the movie itself. Like having all the humans be live action in a CGI world. >orkess Anon she's just a black girl in green paint.
>>21379 >Like having all the humans be live action in a CGI world. It worked for Avatar, and that movie came out seven years prior.
>>21381 Yeah but Avatar looks a lot better. Plus they were clearly going for realism on an alien world. While WoW's aesthetic is stylized to begin with.
>>21226 I wouldn't say "great." It's at least on par with the average action kids show from its era. It's at least as good as Mighty Max or Captain Planet or whatever. But it is nowhere near Batman: The Animated Series, ReBoot (at least starting in the second half of Season 2), or other shows that weren't tied down to only being allowed to write things that toddlers could appreciate. Go try watching it again. Most episodes are entirely forgettable. The kid insert character is one of the most annoying of any of these shows, and that's saying a lot since so many of them were terrible, and since this one is one of the few characters actually from the games the series was based on. If it came out today people would throw a fit about the series having almost nothing to do with the source material. Well, Sonic autists do complain about that today. But the excuse that the games didn't have a story doesn't even hold water now that we have the internet and can see that Sonic 2, the game Tails was from, did have substantial plot elements that clearly were never looked at when making the show. And that isn't as egregious in Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, since that's a slapstick comedy where the plot isn't very important. But it's supposed to be important here, and it's lame. It comes off feeling like a very generic but well produced show of its era, and they just slapped in Sonic as the Princess's sidekick, Tails as the kid insert character, and changed the villain's name to Robotnik. If the show didn't have Sonic and Tails, and called Robotnik something else, it would function almost exactly the same. And it would still be a good show. But not a great one.
>>21228 The Caligula anime was also quite good.
Warcraft lore was never that good and is a shitter Warhammer. It ending up being an even shittier capeshit movie revolving around a zombie elf who's more or less another shitty female protagonist ala Korra or She-Ra or Rey or RWBY main cast just shows it. >>21378 Go back >>21379 He's just a refugee from the shittier chans/*umblr/re*dit. >>21394 Only Doug Walker drones, Sally/Bunnie centric fur fuckers, Undertale fans, Moot channers, others who get shoved in lockers give a damn about le SatAM. Western Sonic was never good anyway.
>>22243 Only AoStH is worth watching if you have nothing else to do, better than the Super Mario cartoons.
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>>21229 There's a Warcraft series?
Im still disappointed they never continued Boom, but so far the films have held up.
>>22914 I only knew AoStH growing up and I think it holds up okay today. SatAm is too dark and similar to the premise of the comics and Underground is just plain weird. Both tried to add too much lore, which I normally like, but attempts to give Sonic a backstory have never ended well. >>23141 Didn't watch the first, but I am intrigued by the second one. Trailer looks alright. A lot more focus on the main cast from the games and less on the humans. The "character from another world meets humans" premise ruined Sonic X for me and I wasn't about to be tricked again. I really think these movies could have been great if they never had the human characters to begin with (Robotnik aside). That and the robot designs are my big issues, but at least it looks like nailed Death Egg Robot this time around, so maybe the robot designs will morph into game-accurate versions.
>>23143 >The "character from another world meets humans" premise ruined Sonic X Well it started with Adventure.
>>22914 I'd add Boom, especially if you're familiar with the Sonic fanbase's shenanigans. The writing's better than it has any right to be. Never watched SatAM or Underground myself, and I haven't watched X since it originally aired.
>>23144 It's clear you haven't played Sonic Adventure. Sonic isn't from another world in that. In fact, locations from the previous games all being in the same world as Station Square is essential to the plot. Humans being around isn't treated as weird, and I'm willing to bet the Japanese men that made all the games always just figured that was the type of world Sonic lived in. Humans just didn't appear much because almost no characters ever appeared, and the games take place in mystic abandoned ruins anyway. Out of all of the actual characters in Sonic 1, 50% of them are human. To assume that he was the only human in the whole world was always stupid. In fact, what is the city in the background of Casino Night Zone? The buildings in the background of Spring Yard Zone don't look like a normal city, and I can buy they're just Robotnik's factories and whatever, but the background of Casino Night Zone looks like a populated city. In fact, it's probably just the city that was later named Station Square. Hell, they could say Casino Night Zone actually takes place in Casinopolis and I'd say it makes enough sense. Sonic Adventure takes place on the same island as Sonic 2 (plus the island from Sonic 3 crashes into it, plus Robotnik has an airship with some levels on it).
http://geekmelee.com/2017/07/holy-shit-the-new-castlevania-show-is-so-awful/ >– Trevor turns an entire mob of people on a priest simply by saying a few sentences about what a bad guy he is. A mob of people who, mere moments earlier, wanted to kill Trevor and the Speakers. Their minds are changed with terribly written dialogue/logic and no proof whatsoever that the priest has done anything to wrong them. They don’t actually speak or voice an opinion. They don’t ask any questions. They just run and stab him. A lot. did reddit write the show
>>23151 >It's clear you haven't played Sonic Adventure. Anon they copy and pasted San Fran as an entire setting.
Neat to see that Castlevania Dungeon more or less agrees the show overall isn't good.
>>23356 That's Sonic Adventure 2, dingus. And even then, it wouldn't change the point that nothing in the original games implies Sonic is from a different world with no humans. The games mostly take place on uncharted magical islands, and when not, then in ancient ruins and jungles and stuff, and have very few characters anyway. Half the characters in the first game are humans. Just because the few that were added in the next six years looked more like the character from the first game that wasn't a human doesn't mean there were no other humans in the world, it just means that when going for important characters, they wanted them to look more cartoony and memorable. Indeed, that remained the case in the games where humans were around. Humans were almost always less important characters, aside from two that were directly related to Robotnik, and two that were directly associated with those characters (GUN Commander and The President. And even then, The President is barely a character even in Shadow the Hedgehog). And oh yeah, I forgot there is Professor Pickle from Sonic Unleashed, but nobody cares about him. Also note that some of the very earliest games in the franchise, like Waku Waku Sonic Patrolcar, took place in more "realistic" cities. And again, there is Casino Night Zone. Why would Robotnik put neon signs reading "Sonic" and "Miles" around his own casino? Because it wasn't his casino. I never actually thought of this point until this thread, but early Japanese materials treated Sonic as some sort of celebrity in his world. That casino was made by regular people. Westside Island, the island from Sonic 2, was notably not a mystical moving island, like South Island (from Sonic 1) and Angel Island (from Sonic 3). It was stated to be the original home of the Chaos Emeralds, but not moving like the other two islands. So it makes sense that regular people could live on it. There just weren't any actual characters in the game except for Sonic, Robotnik, and Tails. And indeed, later in Sonic Adventure they specifically set the game in the original home of the chaos emeralds (well, for one third of the game. Another third is the same island from Sonic 3, and the final third is Robotnik's ship), and there is a casino level. Same casino? Perhaps. Lost World, the water-logged jungle ruins/cave level from the same game, may also be the same general location as Aquatic Ruin Zone and Mystic Cave Zone. Windy Valley also doesn't seem terribly dissimilar to Hill Top Zone, though maybe that one is stretching it. Note that the same game explicitly features Ice Cap Zone from Sonic 3, and the nearby Red Mountain is very likely intended to be the same volcano as Lava Reef Zone from Sonic & Knuckles.
>>23394 Anon i aint reading all that.
>>23442 >coming to a spinoff of a spinoff of a spinoff of a spinoff of Something Awful that only exists because all of the previous sites became too full of "normalfags" >entering the "Comics and Cartoons" board, then clicking on a thread about Vidya cartoons >but not wanting to read reams of autism about the stories of children's video games Why did you even come here?
Funny enough, Castlevania's show missed a big point in the games that all "evil" ultimately came from humanity and nothing more with said evul being necessary for the universe to function properly. This was apparently case even in the first game where the final boss wasn't Dracula but a manifestation of man's sins. The game verse doesn't really have any really primordial beings/creatures besides perhaps CV's God. Dracula and the other vampires like Walter from LoI and Camilla started as humans, Death and other demons were made by Chaos which was made by humanity, Dracula had plenty of human followers (the hunchback enemies ala Igor, the Devil Forgemasters from CoD, Shaft). The closest things to "ultimate evils" in the games Menace from Soma's 2nd game which was artificially made by accident thanks to Dimitri's screwup and Chaos which in canon depends on humanity. The only way to end Chaos would be to either forever change humanity somehow (as Olrox tried in the Soma games novel) or destroy it. The Dark Lord is ultimately necessary to rule the demons and make sure their realm is around. Death in the show is just a giant monster who eats souls. He does not have any noted connection to humanity outside of eating their souls. Also, knowing the backstage drama the show had I'm sure that Shankar planned for Isaac turn into/be possesed by Death which got scrapped post-Season 2 once Ellis and Co. got more control over the show. He already had the "Dracula's most loyal minion/best friend" angle and the necromancy/undeath going i line with how they depicted Devil Forging (it's more like necromancy here than alchemy crossed with demon summoning/controlling). Wouldn't be surprised if they thought Dracula having the Grim Reaper working for him as his sidekick was too silly so they just made Isaac do all the things he'd do. Plus he's a human so he'd be easier to fit in their discount Game of Thrones vampire politics than having Death floating around would.
>>24665 >all "evil" ultimately came from humanity If they couldn't grasp this in Castlevania, I'd hate to see what they'd do with Berserk, since Miura literally spends a chapter beating you over the head with that "Idea of Evil" concept. Until he retconnned it.
>>24670 He didn't retcon the Idea of Evil. He just canned the chapter revealing IoE since it revealed too much. Anyway, if writers like for capeshit actually believe in "evil" as a real thing they might pay lipservice to stuff like "ugh i hate humanity this world sucks" but don't really commit to it since they still believe in things like "muh victims and muh superheroes who aren't like everyone else." Oh sure, they might dig the idea of actual evil being a thing to have endless wars and cataclysms and easy villains but in practice they treat evil as something that's an invasive presence that can be punched/talked away rather than something that will always be there in every man and will only be gone from the world's/time's end. Even Tolkien had his heroes do what they do knowing they have no real hope absent of Eru's permission and even then their world is doomed to destruction with only Eru making a new one.
>>24686 Christ you're such a fucking nihilists.
>>24687 Oh go back to your capeshit/tumblrshit.
>>24688 You're crying more than me faggot.
>>24689 Read more.
>>24690 I read enough.
>>24691 Okay. So explain how "evil" can be something that actually exists yet not be necessary to how man/the universe functions.
>>24692 Oh it is, but most capeshit I've read(which admittedly isn't that extensive, alot of it is second hand from secondary media, out of continuity shit or watching other people argue online), treat it as if it is in a perpetual battle with Good. Superheroes typically function under the idea of a common good: > The world is awful but I will try to make it less awful as much as I can > Evil will always exist but I will always fight the good fight and protect as many people as I can > There's enough good people in the world that's it's worth protecting These are common talking points in capeshit to the point of being arguably trite. Unless you're talking about modern capeshit writers, but even those faggots who write irredeemably garbage comics don't portray evil as something that could be stopped from what I read. Not noticing that made me assume you were just a nihlistic faggot who felt like randomly crying about how evil can never truly be stopped.
>>24693 >>24692 Should add that it's common for capeshit to have a character that tries to eradicate all evil only for other characters to stop them as too theoretically eradicate evil you will typically have to do a bunch of awful shit like remove all free will or force a global hive mind or some other sci-fi shit.
Some time ago, it was announced that Neopets was going to try to put out an animated series, originally slated for Fall of last year. Since the original announcement, there appears to be nothing about the subject. Nothing on a release date change, nothing on cancellation either. Is it safe to presume it just kinda quietly died? Not that it really matters, it probably would have been garbage. Still odd that it just appeared then... Just didn't without a word.
>>24694 Everything you listed is just capeshit as already noted here. Saying that evil is real (rather than mutually exclusive interests ala the Iliad) among men (as opposed to demons or primordial beings/creatures Greek mythology) but can be outright overcome by men whether they're a team of the somehow different from around the world or some outcast saving a world/land/whatever he holds in contempt without anyone above them rather than comprehended or withstood or directed into proper ends is not a traditional plot but is modern/post-modern. It reflects the notion that men control the universe and there is nothing above them (and not in some "gods depend on worship" way). King Arthur can kill his enemies like Mordred since he's the Once and Future King with his enemies opposing the way of things as designed. Even then Camelot still falls. In Norse mythology the world is destroyed and mostly everyone dies leaving a new world but not really a better one. Point is that it's not men's job to beat le evil traditionally.
>>24701 Oh I see this was a modernism vs trad thing, my bad. Carry the fuck on than I guess.
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>>24686 >"muh victims and muh superheroes who aren't like everyone else." Practically every comic book since at least the 1960s has been about how superheroes are just like everyone else. Have you never heard of Spider-Man? That was the premise since his first appearance. Hell, people overlook how much The Flash was about that since its reboot over five years earlier. And why do you think Superman is Clark Kent? Because on the inside, he is just like everyone else. That's the entire point. If anything, it's the opposite, and there are way more stories about characters becoming evil when they lose touch with humanity. The entire premise of The Spectre (from the creators of Superman) is that this literal God-sent Angel needs to merge with a human to have that sense of humanity and keep him from being amoral. And don't try to argue that it's different post-Golden Age. While there is cosmic meta shit now, the writers focus more and more on just how human the characters are. Also, on the topic of cosmic meta shit, in DC at least, what makes superheroes special isn't that they're good, it's that they're winners. On Earth-One, Earth-Two, and most other universes, "good" always wins, at least in the long run. It's a fundamental rule of the universe. A good guy can lose a battle and die but goodness will prevail eventually. On Earth-Three, however (and also Earth-3, Earth 3, and the antimatter universe of Qward), "evil" always wins. So what does this change? Well the most fundamental change is that the superheroes are evil and the supervillains are good. Superman, and his evil counterpart Ultraman, is not defined by being good, because in some universes he is evil. No, Superman is defined by being a winner. He was born into this universe to win. And Lex Luthor, the only surviving hero of Earth-Three (and Earth 3, and the antimatter universe of Qward) was born to lose. But he's the best loser, so he survives after the evil superheroes kill all the other good supervillains. This is brought up because it means if the Justice League and Justice Society fights on Earth-Three, they are fated to lose, but if the Crime Syndicate fights on Earth-One or Earth-Two, they are fated to lose. Sometimes they fight in the space between universes to make it a fair battle. Other changes on the Crime Syndicate Earths include things like Columbus sailing from America and discovering Europe, which was then conquered. But eventually Britain won its independence from America. Later, President John Wilkes Booth was assassinated by Abraham Lincoln. I guess this means Columbus is also a fated winner, Columbian-era Europe was cosmically better than Columbian-era America, and revolutionary-era Britain was cosmically evil while revolutionary-era America was cosmically good. I'm not quite sure what the swapping of Lincoln and Booth means. I guess we are to figure that Booth killing Lincoln was evil, but good always wins on the Earths where that happens, so killing him actually just helped to make him a martyr and spread his cause? So on the backwards Earths killing Booth was good short-term but bad long-term? I guess Lincoln actually is special and is meant to be cosmically good on all Earths, and Booth is cosmically evil. >>24690 Try actually reading the things you're complaining about, because you don't know anything about them, and everything you say is the opposite of correct.
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>>24729 Isn't the point of Crime Syndicate earths that evil wins since everything good is now evil & more powerful?
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>>24734 Not necessarily. There are some things that stay the same alignment. On Earth-Three, Lois Lane is still good, for example. On Qward and Earth-Three, Lois Lane is Superwoman, the evil Wonder Woman, because Grant Morrison remembered that Superwoman was the name Lois Lane took whenever she temporarily got superpowers back in the '40s and '50s. But the Crime Syndicate Superwoman was the evil doppelganger of Wonder Woman. So on Qward and Earth 3, Wonder Woman and Lois Lane are the same person. Kind of like how Johnny Quick (Crime Syndicate) is the doppelganger of both Jay Garrick (Earth-Two) and Johnny Quick (Earth-Two). Also, Earth 3 Superwoman cheats on Ultraman (and Owlman, who she was also cheating on him with) with Alexander Luthor, as a callback to Earth-Three Lois Lane. So uh... you could say that Lois Lane's cosmic role is that she is the lover of the world's greatest hero, who is normally Superman, but is Lex Luthor on the Crime Syndicate worlds. Except for on Qward, where as far as I recall they don't imply any romance between the two. So that kind of ruins it. But my point is, it isn't just that everything is backwards. That's just what it seems like at first. But no, actually, once you look deeper, what it really is is that evil always wins, whereas good always wins on most other earths. So the superheroes are evil there not just because they're backwards, but because they are cosmically destined to win in every universe, and the supervillains, most notably Lex Luthor, are cosmically destined to lose in every universe. On the Crime Syndicate worlds, in order for the superheroes to win, they have to be bad guys, and in order for Lex Luthor to lose, he has to be a good guy.
>>24735 >On Qward and Earth-Three, Lois Lane is Superwoman Fuck. I meant Qward and Earth 3. The difference between Earth-Three, Earth-3, and Earth 3 is actually important to my point. As far as I know, Lois Lane never appeared on Earth-3. But the Earth-3 Crime Syndicate was never very important anyway. Maybe she did appear or maybe she was Superwoman. I'm not sure. But on Earth-Three she is good and on Earth 3 she is evil. Both fuck Lex Luthor though. On Qward she is evil but only fucks Ultraman, not Alexander Luthor.
>>24735 Kind of makes endless cosmic evil threats a lot more pointless then if cosmically/in the meta narrative they can never really win.
>>24737 No. That's the premise of their stories. They realize the rules of their universes and use them to their advantage. Namely, they lure the Justice League and Justice Society to their earth, where they are destined to win. Or Alexander Luthor helps to lure the Crime Syndicate to a good earth where they will lose. Usually what ends up happening is the climax happens in The Bleed, the space between universes. Either that or bigger multiversal shit happens, because if there is reality warping cosmic shit going on, then the rules break down. The high level cosmic stuff is about destroying universes, so the rules within any particular universe don't matter. Also, for smaller conflicts, remember that the rules only apply long term. The president of the united states still gets shot in 1865, even though that's against the rules of whatever particular universe it happens in. The implication is that it ends up following the good/evil rule of that universe in the long run, but that doesn't mean Superboy isn't going to try to save Lincoln anyway. Also, really it's the writers simply acknowledging what we all already know. Superman is never going to really lose for real. Even if he dies, he still stops Doomsday. The day will always be saved. The writers know we all know that, and they knew that in the '60s when they introduced the concept. If anything, the introduction of Earth-Three was meant to be a thing like "oh shit, they literally can't win now that they're stuck on this world where the rules are different!" It was an excuse to make the readers think that the obvious rule that Superman will always win maybe didn't apply this time. Of course, it still did. It always will. But at least they made an attempt at throwing a curveball.
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>>24738 It's fine when it's multiverses meeting. Sometimes. Needs to be done way less often. For one it's less special but it also makes every other story with much less stakes have any impact. What's really stupid is when it's multiverse wide shit or meta commentary that's ultimately empty because nothing will actually change after the fact.
>>24739 Well the problem with the Crime Syndicate in particular is that they're inherently a multiverse concept, but DC tried to eliminate the multiverse because they thought it was too confusing. But they wanted to keep the Crime Syndicate because of course the evil Justice League from the mirror universe is a cool concept. But by eliminating the multiverse they only made it more confusing, and then they've been trying to fix it ever since. It's the same problem with Hawkman. They used to just have the Earth-One characters meet the Earth-Two characters whenever they wanted, and it was fine. Merging the universes didn't make things less complicated, it made things way more complicated. A multiverse doesn't make things confusing. Crossovers do. I think the problem you're describing isn't just with multiverse shit, but with crossovers in general. Crossovers need to be much less common. It's one thing to have team series like Justice League and Avengers, but it's a whole other thing to have particular series always crossing over in a way where you need to read every series in order for it to make sense. It used to be that you could read Batman and not need to read Justice League for it to make sense. Not anymore. You can read it for a few months, but at least once per year you'll need to read Justice League and probably a bunch of other things for a massive crossover in order for the current Batman story and stories after it to make any sense. And to read those stories, you need to know the issues before them, so really you just need to read them almost all the time. It's ridiculous. Crossovers are only special when they're rare, but for decades now they've just been the rule, not the exception.
>>24743 All comes down to too many cooks in the kitchen.
>>24744 Nah. Different creators working together, even across decades, can be enjoyable, so long as they're good. Sometimes even a bad writer's work can be redeemed by a better writer later and coming along with another story that recontextualizes a bad one and makes it worth something. If anything, it's just corporate bullshit that mandates so many crossovers, and that combined with autistic writers relying too much on long-form storytelling means that not only do you have to get at least six issues to get a whole story, but you have to get six issues from six different series, which means you have to be familiar with what's going on in each series, which means you end up having to get like 50 different issues just to understand one story. And maybe if you do, that one giant story ends up being really cool (honestly, I'm the type to read all that shit, and I do frequently end up thinking it's cool), but it's absurdly impractical, and makes things way too complicated for any but the most autistic audience to bother with. And even if I think it's cool, I've read plenty of stories just as good or better that were a lot more self-contained. They were still in long-running series, which take place in shared universes, but the particular stories were much more self contained. When references happened, they were presented in ways where you could understand them even without reading the thing they're referencing. That's what's been fucked for decades. And frankly, I think it's too late to fix now. There are far bigger problems with comics now, and by the time those are dealt with, the industry will be dead. And it will have been a mercy killing.
>>24745 Sure it CAN be good but the problems come when you pretend to have a cohesive universe while every writer & artist keeps trying to reinvent the wheel. Were it only creator owned stories with a cast of DC characters then this kind of problem wouldn't happen. Just let everyone make their own stories & universes without stepping on the toes of everyone else.
>>24748 >Were it only creator owned stories with a cast of DC characters then this kind of problem wouldn't happen. That was called Image Comics, and nobody gives a flying fuck about their shared universe. And yeah, it's not that stories can't be good without shared universes, but shared universes can be fun. The insane amount of depth and history created only because there is so much content, and that much content couldn't be created without many people. And not all writers who attempt to really make use of the shared universe do it well, but some do. Overall, I enjoy the stories that have done it well enough to not wish the shared universe didn't exist.
>>24751 Problem with Image is no one really cares about most of their capeshit. Probably because it's all stuck in the 90s being edgier than even DC tries to be. A shared universe can only work as much as the team works to make it a cohesive consistent universe. No storyboards, editorial overview, or communication between writers/artists makes it all fall apart. Even the MCU is incomprehensible now because it got too big & Disney didn't bother to rein in people who wanna go against the established lore already put forward. Looking at Captain Marvel especially for this.
>>24752 >No storyboards, editorial overview, or communication between writers/artists makes it all fall apart. You're right that editorial has a big role to play. They did it quite successfully for many decades, but they've given up more recently. >Even the MCU is incomprehensible now because it got too big & Disney didn't bother to rein in people who wanna go against the established lore already put forward. Looking at Captain Marvel especially for this. No, the MCU is perfectly comprehensible, it just went to shit because they decided to make it SJW propaganda. The only reason one wouldn't understand something now is because it's difficult to sit through their recent films, so if those films are referenced later, it won't sit right. If only they just didn't reference Captain Marvel in Endgame, we could have had a good ending. Oh well, Infinity War is better anyway. That's the ending. Everyone dies. The end. Good end.
>>24753 No Way Home makes very little sense & only gets more complicated with the ties to Morbius now.
>>24754 Never watched it since it's SJW MCU era and even the previous two Spider-Man movies were already stupid borderline SJW shit. Any problems it has aren't due to being in a shared universe, as evidenced by the 20 previous movies that did it successfully. The problems are due to being made by retards. Note that Sony fucked up Spider-Man so hard that they rebooted it twice in four years, and this movie is specifically highlighting that. If it's confusing, it's only a symptom of being made by retards.
>>24757 See the thing is No Way Home drags in Doctor Strange & the other two Spider-man live action series'. So it drags down the reputation of the Sam Raimi movies, is the lead in to Doctor Strange 2, & made a whole mess with the Sony universe integration. Though that's probably a lot to do with Sony themselves not knowing what to do either. Not only is Vulture somehow now in the Morbius/Venom universe, even though the spell doesn't work like that, but somehow Venom was brought in just to be immediately sent back. All just to drop a bit of Venom into the MCU.
>>24762 That Venom thing made no fucking sense. The spell also makes no fucking sense. For the spell to be broken and send the Spider-men back to their universes, Peter Parker would have to forget he is Spider-man.
>>24729 >Practically every comic book since at least the 1960s has been about how superheroes are just like everyone else. Have you never heard of Spider-Man? That was the premise since his first appearance. >using a character who's a dweeb who gets his ass kicked by jocks then suddenly gets superpowers as not an example Capeshit wouldn't be latched onto by the likes of tumblr, reddit, and spacebattlers and tvtropers if there wasn't something about "X character is somehow different from the rest of humanity and gets shunned/hated for it while also better than the rest of humanity for it" that appeals to such dregs.
>>24777 Exactly. It's a whole lot of plot convenience that really falls apart the more you think about it. There's also a condition of the spell that the villains summoned have to be ones that knew Peter was Spider-man. Electro never did though. He never saw Peter without his mask.
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>>24779 >Capeshit wouldn't be latched onto by the likes of tumblr, reddit, and spacebattlers and tvtropers if there wasn't something about "X character is somehow different from the rest of humanity and gets shunned/hated for it while also better than the rest of humanity for it" that appeals to such dregs. NTA, but your argument seems to be "if these people I hate latched unto it, than it must be like this!" Have you even read capeshit? It's fine if you haven't, as it arguably isn't worth getting into, but you have an awful strong opinion for someone who can't name actual examples beyond "well these people like it so it must be like that!" The mere existence of faggots in a fanbase isn't a strong point in your favor, because they will latch unto anything that passes a certain popularity threshold. It's common as hell for SJWeebs to go "god I'm so hecking into anime but I wish the shows I liked weren't so problematic X_X." You know all of those outgroups you listed are also exist for anything you like? A lot of faggots love Tolkien for example. >But these kinds of people love talking shit about tolkien Tell that to the dozen's of faggot op-ed's on how LOTR is secretly gay: https://archive.ph/cNF0T https://archive.ph/opqV9 https://archive.ph/jRqvo https://archive.ph/hfhEV https://www.tumblr.com/search/queer%20lotr Even Berserk has a bunch of people who go "God this manga is so good, but I wish it confirmed more to my politcal and ideological sensibilities." OR "God Griffith is so gay for guts!" See: https://archive.ph/8pfLc https://archive.ph/ZTIoV https://archive.ph/AxlAP https://archive.ph/kqr5l https://www.tumblr.com/search/gay%20berserk They can and will latch unto to anything that's popular and will just bitch about how it would be so much better if it wasn't as icky.
>>24781 I mean Griffith had a mental breakdown because Guts dared to leave him & beat him in a fight. His world was shattered because Griffith is the type of person who's all about his careful planning & possessive nature. Even if he wasn't gay for him, he was definitely obsessed with having Guts as his own obedient soldier. Now Guts doesn't reciprocate those feelings at all. He loves only Casca.
>>24782 OH I agree anon. All I'm saying is that tumblr, reddit, tvtropes, etc. liking something is hardly enough to write something off. These people literally invented the concept of "problematic faves" to get away with liking something they shouldn't on a ideological level.
>>24783 Yeah unfortunately that's just how it goes. Shipping has also been an annoyance.
>>24784 *always
>>24779 >seriously trying to imply that Spider-Man isn't meant to be an everyman Literally the entire point is that he is a regular guy. Flash isn't. Flash is the cool as fuck alpha chad. Cooler than you, faggot. Peter Parker is the regular guy. Peter isn't shunned and hated by the rest of humanity, he just isn't at the top of the popularity ladder like Flash Thompson and Liz Allan. Also, if you ever read Ditko/Romita era Spider-Man, you'll see a very interesting arc where Peter realizes that some of his antagonism with Flash and his friends was partially his own fault, and Flash in particular has grown out of some of his more negative traits. Harry and Gwen were also originally Flash's friends and essentially bullies to Peter, and MJ joins their gang after she is introduced, but he realizes that a lot of what he perceives as bullying is actually misunderstanding, and they become his best friends. All of these characters become humanized to the point of becoming protagonists rather than antagonists. And this goes double for J. Jonah Jameson, who ends up being incredibly sympathetic and admirable, all without having him lose the traits that made us think of him as an antagonist originally. And this isn't even something that happened decades into the series. All of these characters become very humanized by the end of Ditko's run, 40 issues in, and Romita continues that trend drastically. >tl;dr: Try reading the shit you say absurd things about. You seem to have less understanding of it than people who have never even heard of it before. You have negative understanding of it. Everything you say is the opposite of correct.
>>24787 Go away cuckchannel /co/ dweller.
>>24789 You just scream at people who argue against you huh?
>>24781 >Lotr >Queer These people or even if you want to call them that, are projecting their ideas into something that doesn't fit it. Tolkien was near reactionary kind of a person. He supported the right wings in the spanish civil war. Tumblr and faggors have been always projecting their ideas into shows or books or anime. Just look at their "fanart", they always make them fat or ugly.
>>24793 Yes and? My point is that there existence in a fandom doesn't mean much.
>>24790 You're just a 4ch*n co poster in denial. Capeshit is a hit with the likes of tropers and redditors and twitter for the same things that Jo Rowlings' scribbles and Avatar post-Korra and magical girl shit (especially Madoka) and RWBY and sawnik and Star Wars and tumblrtale/tumblrtale sequel and whatever shitty webcomics into have. Being a capeshitter your ability to have non-shit taste is impaired.
>>>/reddit/
>>24806 Not even the guy you're arguing with lol. You are so assblasted.
>>24806 >>24808 Also >4ch*n Where do you twitterspeak faggots keep coming from?
>>24806 Capeshit comics aren't a hit with those groups though. They just watch the movies that everyone else watches. They don't watch the ones nobody else watches. And like other casuals, they certainly don't read comics. I'm also pretty sure they aren't into Sonic. You're getting autists confused with casuals/hipsters/sjws, when they couldn't be more different. And obviously, pretending Star Wars always appealed to them, and that Disney's Star Wars is the same as real Star Wars, is simply disingenuous.
>>24806 Twitter fags don't read comics either. They never have. They just know the movies & shows made loosely off them.
>>24822 That's to bad.
>>24823 It's certainly very annoying. It's comparable to people who praise the Castlevania cartoon without having ever touched or researched the games to know why people hate it.
>>24825 Look man it was good until my eceleb masters told me seasons 3 and 4 went woke then I realized I'm supposed to hate it though. But Season 1 with its dogshit animation and characters was amazing™.
>>24826 Believe me, they shilled even harder after seasons 3 & 4.
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>>2354 Mario movie got delayed, it seems they're redoing it as a musical with butchered character designs, expect Mario with Waluigi's body while singing an awful cover of [Current Trendy Song] >>24781 >Tails get Trolled template for their faggy memes What is this ironic bullshit? Is it something positive or is it mocking faggots?
>>25749 >Mario movie got delayed, it seems they're redoing it as a musical with butchered character designs, expect Mario with Waluigi's body while singing an awful cover of [Current Trendy Song] Good. Hopefully it'll be awful and will bomb and Mario will stay safely in games and the occasional cartoon and away from Hollywood cancer.
Sonic 2 is out.
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>>25801 Knuckles voice is about 2 octaves below what I think it is. He's proper menacing but it's low tonally. >Piece of Shiitake planet. >Holy Sherbet. Tails sounds... okay. VA for Tails has been him since 2014, so ehh. The humans continue to be annoying extras. Jim Carry is lovely in this though, I feel he hasn't been off his leash like this since The Mask days. SHADOW BAIT FOR 3 CONFIRMED.
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>>25802 >Earth is my turf, if you don't know how to floss, you'll be lost without me. This movie is leaning between actual cool sonic parts and massive amounts of cringe. I get modern script writers in hollywood are basically children at this point but can they at least try to have decent dialog? Dance off at the 45 minute mark. >Snow my god. So Guardian Units of Nations is a thing. There are also way too many blacks in the film. Body positivity bride is freaking out that everyone at her wedding is a fed. She was a writer on SNL, should tell you all you need to know about her. >A third film, as well as a spin-off series focusing on Knuckles, are in development. >It's also the highest grossing video game movie ever in America at 325 million box office currently. I think it's so high cause it's a sequel and there's nothing to watch currently. >In April 2022, after Carrey announced that he was considering retiring from acting, producers Moritz and Ascher confirmed that his role as Dr. Robotnik would not be recast in any sequels if he followed through with his retirement plans, though they remained hopeful that they could develop a script good enough for him to continue the role Carry is 60, btw. The fact he can still channel that energy from 30 years ago is kind of amazing.
>>25804 >Earth is my turf, if you don't know how to floss, you'll be lost without me. You're lying and I don't believe that's an actual line in the movie.
>>25804 >I think it's so high cause it's a sequel and there's nothing to watch currently. It's high because this and Sonic 1 are basically the only movies in years that aren't all about SJW propaganda. Even though the movie is basically about Sonic's interracial parents' fat black sister's wedding, it's still the least SJW film in years, just for not coming right out and calling the audience shitlords. Actually listening to the fans and fixing the design in the first movie got an absurd amount of public goodwill, which just goes to show how low the public standards' have become, that something that should have been basic is now the best they hope for. >>25806 Robotnik says it to Knuckles to convince him to team up.
>>25804 >You're as useful to me as a backstage pass to Limp Bizkit. >Water, again?! An actual decent running gag. Why can't the entire movie be like this? >Have you not read the manual? >Take out Tail's plane with the Stashsmasher. >It's right here in the manual. Again, some actual good dialog that doesn't make me cringe. The entire movie needs a rewrite to be like this. >I live rent free in this guys head. >What are you going to do? Build a big robot house then find a big robot wife? >I'm going to enslave humanity... Robotnik has his priorities wrong. With that Emerald he can /clang/ all the robots he wants. >>25806 Like I said, the actual game part with Sonic/Tails/Knuckles/Robotnik is good, the human parts are too much cringe. It's a solid meh/10 for me. Idris is okay as Knuckles. Could have casted someone worse I suppose.
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>>25809 Sonic goes Super and saves the day. End of movie, teasing Shadow at the end. Jim Carrey really is the best part of this. So yeah, solid meh/10.
>>25809 Hell he could enslave humanity with robot wives.
>>25810 Jesus Christ what the fuck is wrong with writers today.
>>25850 Corporate mandate, they did it in the first film too when the trailer showed Sonic doing his icon closing dance. Though at least here it kinda shows how out of touch Eggman.
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Red Photon Zillion was made by Tatsunoko Productions and Sega to promote a laser tag line, and was then turned into a couple of games for the Master System. The US release was such a flop that they only aired a few episodes, but it was a massive success in Brazil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuRdrIMGi7c
>>25802 Did they play Crawling by Linkin Park when Shadow was revealed?
>>25883 No. Just a musical sting then credits.
>>25884 Ahh well, nothin' personnel, I guess.
>>25871 Is that discount Major Kusinagi?
>>25883 You know, the fact that this would be more likely than just playing one of his actual songs, either his theme from Sonic Adventure 2, Team Dark's theme from Heroes, or any song from his solo game, really bugs me. It bothers me that these movies don't use any music from the games at all, with barely a reference to Green Hill Zone by having it as a guy's ringtone. Just use music from the games, damnit.
>>25883 >>25906 If they do end up making Sonic 3 with Shadow then hopefully fan autism will get them to put Crush 40 in
>>25934 >hopefully fan autism will get them to put Crush 40 in They'll play Live & Learn over the end credits.
>>25934 Well Crush 40 was listed in Robotnik's playlist during the first film when he had his dance scene in the lab, anything is possible.
>>25810 Will Robotnik mutate like in the comics now that Jim Carrey quit?
>>25970 >anything is possible Even cocking an MP5? Even a monologue by Shadow on those DISGUSTING BLACK CREATURES?
>>26395 I mean Sonic 3 is just 2 years away so we just need yo wait and see.
>>26392 Which one? Archie, Fleetway or IDW?
>>26461 That only happened in Fleetway. In Archie, he died, then an alternate universe counterpart of himself, who turned himself into a robot and killed his universe's Sonic, came to the main universe to fight this now Robotnik-less Sonic, then aliens turned this Robo-Robotnik (there was actually an earlier Robo-Robotnik from a different universe, but he isn't important here) organic, as they did with many people who had been turned into robots. Somehow I doubt the movies will do either. But they definitely won't do the Archie version.
>>26469 Sounds like a cluster fuck. But they won't especially with Penders still threatening to sue the Sonic movie for referencing Chaos energy in the spin-off comic.
>>26519 >Chaos Energy But that's part of the plot of Sonic 1. Is he really such an absolute madman that he thinks he invented the original video game now?
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>>2354 >uses machines >womanizer that aint simon, thats fucking edgar ... final fantasy cartoon when?
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Are you fucking ready for the best Castlevania game to get pozzed and for Dragon Age to somehow get worse than it already is?
>>26732 If anyone had a brain over at Netflix they would have recreated this for the teaser instead. But no, castlevania can't be cool it has to be muh gritty and mature dork fagassy with moody orchestra and shitty drama. I just want Belmonts pushing dracula's shit in, is that too much to ask?
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>>26753 >I just want Belmonts pushing dracula's shit in The Belmonts are now gay for Dracula.
>>26753 That would have been great for a trailer, but for a teaser, I would have gone with this, german dub and all.
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>>26754 DAMN YOU NETFLIX! Unless both the belmonts and dracula get R63'd, then I might be okay with it but judging how this animation studio handled He ma'am revelations, maybe not.
>>26766 Your better off looking for a hentai parody then.
>>26780 I found one a while back. It was a shitty yuri/lesbian one. Thankfully it just borrowed the basic premise of Castlevania, but no characters.
>>26766 >rule63 belmonts No please.
>>25751 It seems Nintendo are willing to go full on Disney, the Mario movie is just the beginning. And since Jack Black is voicing Bowser, how come no one made an animation of him getting brutally killed? Like one of those "he could totally work" videos: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WUKN_YF8tjA That's what it feels like whenever you face Bowser.
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>>29894 That's an anime OVA.


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