>General thread with nothing to actually say in the OP. You're the cancer that killed /co/ over a decade ago.

>>33758 Shut up and post Penis

>>33760 >Shut up and post Penis Okay! Got it!

To think that "It has cute and happy characters" Its a real reason of why Japanese entertainment mogs Western industry

>>33761 Nobody cares about Web-weaver, not woketards, not porn artists, not edgy homophobic anonymous users.

>>33766 True. Reminder the new Spider-verse trailer has a shot of Gwen's room where there's a 'protect trans kids' poster in on the wall. Would they have the guts to retcon movie Gwen as a transgirl? I wouldn't put it past them.

>>33767 Overall I get the feeling that DC its slightly gayer than Marvel, male characters tend to have a lot more homoerotic designs, the specific "pride"imprint, more characters turning gay/lesbian and so on. As long as I know Marvel push more female characters and most "LGBT representation" are lesbians.

>>33769 They're both pretty damn gay & pandering but I think DC has Marvel beat for how heavy handed it's gotten. You have multiple characters attached to existing ones but they're gay & that's there only personality trait. Even Tim was retconned into one.

>>33769 Marvel straight up replaces characters more often and more successfully, though in a way it makes it easier to ignore, since they aren't the characters you previously cared about. It's harder to ignore Tim Drake than some girl they call Wolverine but isn't. Of course Iceman was the original Tim Drake, but I suppose fewer people cared strongly about him. Marvel started the trend, or at lease accelerated it way more. But now? Well I don't know because I couldn't bring myself to continue reading either for years now.

>>33777 Hey come on, Laura is one of the few actually enjoyable replacement characters, not to mention she first showed up in one of the cartoons and people just liked her alot.

>>33779 >enjoyable replacement characters Shut your face. It's one thing to say you like the earlier appearances of the character, but once she became an SJW replacement, she wasn't even the same character she was before, let alone the character Wolverine was before. Like the rest of them, she became just an SJW mouthpiece with any previous characterization completely disregarded.

>>33780 Well yeah, but thats just current marvel, its not really the fault of the character, what i mean to say is that shes not part of the same shitbag as iron heart or any of that new crap.

>>33779 She would be enjoyable if they didn't erase everything about her personality & character progression to make her a Whedon cookie cutter Buffy type. Logan's alive again anyway so there's no point for her to be Wolverine too.

>>33781 Unfortunately she is. Bobby Drake was a beloved original member of the X-Men, around since the start, a silver age mainstay. But now he is relegated to exactly the same shitbag as Riri Williams. Hell, Jane Foster is a key character in Thor's earliest appearances, but we all know that what she was used as in recent years is not at all the same character. >>33783 You know exactly what the point is.

>>33786 And? She was a liked character even despite the shit way they introduced her. That all got thrown out the window when she replaced Logan as Wolverine. Now she's a pointlessly redundant whore like the rest of the X-men becoming hedonists or outright monstrous villains.

>>33786 >>33791 >a character is retroactivly shit because current year writers made it something else Shit, then that means all comics are shit, delete /co/

>>33797 >a character is retroactivly shit because current year writers made it something else Correct. DC only barely as the excuse of multiple universes/continuities whatever but that still doesn't erase something becomes bad when it's later made worse by someone else. This is especially the case with Marvel where nothing is universally reset that same way. It's all one long line of hits & misses with more misses the longer you go. A concept may not be shit in of itself but a character dragged through the dirt with no consistency from writer to writer is shit.

>>33797 No, because this all started because of discussion of "replacement characters." X-23 wasn't always shit, but she was once she became a replacement character. >>33806 Marvel has a multiverse too. And DC's Crisis events aren't generally used to fix bits of continuity everyone hates. That's still done with retcons. Infinite Crisis didn't make it so Hal Jordan never became Parallax. Rather, shortly before Infinite Crisis, they began a long, convoluted story about how, sure, he did become Parallax, but it wasn't his fault, and actually it makes him cooler. Both DC and Marvel do stuff like that. Or at least used to. And if they survived long enough to starve off the SJW cancer, they'd probably do it again. But at this point I don't even want them to survive anymore.

>>33807 You're right. I think with DC though there's easier fixed points until modern day where they've kinda acknowledged all the Crisis events as happening & even brought in elements not originally part of the New 52 "reboot". They're both just as guilty though overall for keeping this shit going on too long with everything connected & constantly retconning shit. If comic books were just told like normal stories then it wouldn't be such a headache. Normalfags love Invincible & actually read the comics now because it's easy to get into & has an endpoint.

>>33809 Endpoints aren't as big a problem as starting points. I can reach the end of a story and ignore sequels if I want, especially if they're sequels by other authors. But finding a start point in comics is a real bitch, since even good stories very frequently expect you to know previous continuity, frequently by other authors. They use that to build very complex stories that couldn't be told otherwise, but of course you can't blame new readers for finding it incomprehensible.

>>33810 True. It just will always eat at me knowing it's not truly the end & what I loved ends up being perverted forever from then on. Imagine being a fan of Iceman till Jean Grey mindraped him gay. Imagine being a fan of Spider-man till One More Day happened.

>>33811 I'm a huge fan of Spider-Man. I've read literally every Spider-Man story up through the early '80s (so far) and many (though not all) after. Hundreds and hundreds of issues. And One More Day doesn't hurt as much as the post-2015 stuff. But regardless, I just ignore that stuff and don't read it. I've probably read at least five or six hundred issues of Spider-Man, at a low estimate, and there are still many hundreds left that I expect to be good. And that's disregarding all the other series I still have to read. I'll just never get to the shitty stuff.

>>33812 Spider-man really fought against a cult in the 80s?

>>33812 You can stomach much more than I can, anon.

>>33773 >but I think DC has Marvel beat for how heavy handed it's gotten. Considering what happened in the aughts, you're definitely not wrong about that. https://archive.ph/h8yEo

>>33767 Don't forget that Miles gets to impregnate her and swing away to some other blonde girls, as well. I am so fucking sick of them cultivating a fetish in black men for blonde women and in blonde women for black me. "No, I'm not influenced by jewish media! What a thing to say! By the way, has anyone else ever gotten wet thinking about King Kong?"

>>33816 Keep in mind that the same time this happened, Marvel made The Rawhide Kid a flaming faggot, because Brokeback Mountain.

>>33824 You know what's funny about King Kong? The Broadway musical show made Anne black.

>>33812 > I've read literally every Spider-Man story up through the early '80s (so far) and many (though not all) after. Is there a comic explain why Spidey is a boss in Revenge of Shinobi?

>>33836 No, but he does fight ninjas very often, frequently on the wrong side, as he gets tricked into fighting good guys pretty often as well. And Godzilla is canon to the Marvel Universe, and I'm sure various supervillains have made several robot Hulks over the years, so a case could be made that Shinobi fits into Earth-616 pretty well. Maybe it never gets referenced in any other Marvel stuff, but it could slot in there with few problems. The Batman appearance would be the biggest problem, but of course it's not literally Batman, but just a thing that looks like Batman. Doesn't have the same powers or whatever. So sure, that can be a thing in the same universe as Spidey.

This character is boring and doesn't add anything to the movie and people only remember it because of lolicon artists. On a side note, this seems like a thread deep inside the the catalog from three years ago.

>>33811 You read capes for the stand alone plots, not the overarching stories. And as the other guy said, it's pretty easy to ignore the garbage. >>33812 You should make an AMA about all the spiderman lore you know about.

>>33867 Then they shouldn't expect you as the reader to read everything or have it all interconnected.

>>33867 >You should make an AMA about all the spiderman lore you know about. Spider-Man, even more than other capeshit, is basically a soap opera. The lore isn't a convoluted mess that's difficult to understand, but I do think that if I didn't read it all in order, I wouldn't give a shit when characters like Flash Thompson or J. Jonah Jameson get married. Things like that are the real point of the series. Also, the one part that is difficult to follow is the fact that by the '70s Spidey stars in three series at the same time: Amazing, Spectacular, and Marvel Team-Up (and once Team-Up ends it's replaced by Web of Spider-Man). So what I do is I flip ahead just to find what issues don't end on cliffhangers, and then whichever series has its next non-cliffhanger be soonest is the one I read first, until I get to that non-cliffhanger, then I repeat the cycle. This shit makes it hard to read for casuals, and it's been going on for 50 years with this character. And it's not like anything really complicated is going on in these series. But failure to do this results in one series spoiling things that happen in the other series. >>33868 The problem is that they expect you to know what happened before. What happened after doesn't matter.

>>33875 That's what I'm saying though. It's a cycling scam to boost sales that just annoys people.

>>33876 They do certainly try to make it addictive. And stories frequently go on for far too long. But there are endings that are reasonable points to stop, usually at the end of a writer's run. Frankly, the even bigger problem that's related to this, though, is crossovers. You might just wanna read one story, but the odds that it will get roped into an absurdly huge crossover are very high in the last few decades, and then you'll feel obligated to read that. And then there are "tie ins." They tell you you don't need to read all the tie ins, but casuals will certainly feel like they should, and it makes sense, because a lot of times the stuff in the tie ins is relevant to the main story. You want to feel like you're getting the full story, but in order to get to the end of the story you're reading, you gotta read all this other shit, not just in the past, but in the present of the current story. The future is the least of your worries. One time I was talking to the owner of my local comic book store, and he told me it was the whales that are the ones that usually just end up quitting entirely. It's the people who get roped into the addiction and predatory practices the hardest who eventually get the most fed up and quit cold turkey. I became one of them for about a year. Or at least I considered myself to be one, spending like $50+/month. But once DC had like three universal crossovers going on at the same time in 2015, it reached a point where I just couldn't justify it, but I felt the need to read everything because otherwise I felt I was missing out on parts of the story. So I just stopped entirely. Now I pirate, or sometimes collect old collections of old comics, if I find them for cheap. Their predatory practices definitely do cost them customers.

>>33878 Again all exactly what I'm talking about. It's awful & predatory.

>>33866 In the future she is going to say that Japan is a sad, suicidal and sexist country

>>33880 Doubt it, the animation industry is filled with otakus.

>>33895 Give it time. Vidya was filled with otakus too, and now western vidya is nothing but people who hate japan.

>>33897 I mean, If I get more people who hate limited animation to the guts and less productions like Steven Universe, Owl House and Castlevania, I'm totally fine with that. I truly need another big artistic oriented project such as UPA or the 90s incubators; Europeans do that in a yearly basis, but it's not the same, because then you have to wait ten years for the show to be produced and if it gets aired at all.

>>33761 Nobody wants to fuck Miles with a skirt?

>>34700 Shouldn't you be in the gamergate thread?

>>33769 I remember reading Wolverine comics featuring Wolverine's bisexual son (with the mohawk) a decade ago. At least they allowed the interpretation that he used feined-homosexual attraction to get closer to hiskill-targets.

>>33779 They should have kept her as a loli.

>Open Peni thread >No Penis >Only penis and actual comic book discussion OP failed successfully?

>>34925 Anon what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Peni almost wore a plugsuit but they wimped out for some reason. More important they gave us ugly ass nigger Spider-punk & hijab Spider-woman UK than to actually care about the most popular character from the first Spider-verse movie. At least Sp//dr actually get a more comic like design.

>>34985 The best thing about Peni was the differences to the comic version. Comic Peni sucked ass and was a blatant eva ripoff, and I mean ripoff because her background had so many "easter eggs" there was nothing original about the character besides the Spider-Man gimmick.

>>34985 >>34987 It is kinda weird that they would make both her and the robot rather different from the comic's design and then try and "realign" with it later.

>>34987 Movie Peni is literally just a generic bubbly anime girl who doesn't do anything. Yes comic Peni is just references but her Spider story is still there to give her something. >>34992 Probably because they didn't want to give her focus again considering how much the first movie Sp//dr stood out from the cast.