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Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Comic Autism But Where Afraid To Ask Anonymous 10/08/2023 (Sun) 01:21:00 No. 36812
A thread dedicated to discussing the absolute autism regarding the history of comic book characters and events.
Are you the guy from the e-celeb thread?
I liked the Teen Titans cartoon from the early 2000s, the one with the anime influences. What are the comics like?
>>36832 Lots of dead teenagers.
>>36832 You mean the canon DC Teen Titans comics? or the Teen Titans Go comcis from the original series (not that TTGO crap from nowadays)
>>36832 Starfire is a slut instead of an airhead and Raven is more dour than "mildly annoyed goth girl."
>>36832 The comics are generally much more serious. More like always the tone of the serious episodes, with much less comedy than the show has. The comedic tone of the cartoon is more like the comic of Young Justice, which does still have plenty of serious moments, like the Teen Titans cartoon does, but has a lot more comedy than most Teen Titans comics. The Young Justice cartoon is much closer in tone to most Teen Titans comics. Also, it's worth noting that the roster of the Teen Titans cartoon is actually based on the comic called "New Teen Titans." There are multiple eras of Teen Titans. Eventually multiple generations. The originals, from the '60s, were Robin (Dick Grayson), Speedy (Roy Harper), Aqualad (Garth), Kid Flash (Wally West), and Wonder Girl (Donna Troy). A couple more get added over time, but the series eventually got cancelled. In the early '80s they rebooted it as "New Teen Titans." This was much more successful. This is where Starfire, Raven, Cyborg, and Deathstroke were introduced, among others you probably know from the cartoon. Beast Boy was technically an old member of the Doom Patrol, but he's relevant here as well. The original Teen Titans aren't old yet, so they also show up and sometimes are main characters, but the guys from the cartoon are the consistent main characters. Eventually these characters got old enough that it started being weird to call them teens. Robin grew up and became Nightwing. Kid Flash grew up and got promoted to Regular Flash. They eventually just started calling themselves The Titans. In the '90s, the next generation of young heroes, the ones who were still young, became Young Justice. The third Robin, Tim Drake, would be the main guy you'd recognize from this. Flash's new sidekick, Impulse, would be another one. That would be the old Kid Flash's sidekick, for the record, since he grew up and became Regular Flash. Eventually they would just bring back the Teen Titans series, and as far as I can tell it's basically the same characters as Young Justice, but they call it Teen Titans now, and usually it has a bit more of a serious tone than Young Justice had. After the New 52, they kind of fucked up continuity and now there was a new Teen Titans (not a new New Teen Titans), and it kind of mixed a few characters from different generations. Like at first Tim Drake was on a team that included Beast Boy, who was normally much older than Drake. They ignored the existence of the original and New Teen Titans. But later they revealed Flash villain Abra Kadabra erased everyone's memories of the original Teen Titans (which includes the New Teen Titans, because they weren't called that in-universe) ever being a team. Or to be clear, we should call them The Titans, as they changed their name to eventually, not the Teen Titans. Also he erased everyone's memories of Wally West ever existing. But eventually Wally comes back and restores people's memories. Also, history did actually change a little in Flashpoint, so some things were a bit different, but less different than they seemed to be before. Because before it almost seemed like the original/New Teen Titans never exist. But don't worry, they did. But this story about remembering the original Teen Titans really focuses on the original Teen Titans and not the New Teen Titans. Meanwhile, the newest iteration of the Teen Titans included both Robin V, Damian Wayne, and Raven, who should have been a grown up Titan by now. But basically, Flashpoint fucked up history and they sort of fixed things but I'm not well versed enough in 21st century Teen Titans lore to understand all of it. Maybe it makes sense if I read more, but I haven't done that. >tl;dr: Read "The New Teen Titans" from the '80s. It's one of the best, most successful, and most influential comic book series ever. It's the reason anyone cares about Teen Titans, and the reason they keep making new Teen Titans comics, not to mention tv shows, to this day. The show is based on this series in terms of characters and story. In terms of tone, though, it's more similar to the comic series "Young Justice" from the '90s. The Young Justice TV show, meanwhile, is a bit closer in tone to other Teen Titans comics, most specifically the later ones from the 2000s and 2010s. It's not really like the Young Justice comics.
The fact that you need to read a lot from different releases to understand one character, no wonder manga its more successful now
>>36847 This question was about a team, not a specific character. It's also a team of characters from other series, so a crossover. Yeah, that makes it more complicated. It's like if they did a continuing series where Goku, Luffy, and Naruto teamed up every month. Yeah, you'd probably need to know about what happens in Dragon Ball, One Piece, and Naruto in order to fully understand that. On the other hand, the original Teen Titans is all characters from different series, but it's from the '60s, when they never really expected you to care about continuity, so you can probably follow that just fine. The creator of the Teen Titans famously didn't even know Wonder Girl's origin, which is that she was Wonder Woman when she was a kid. That was a major fuckup that lead to decades of attempts to fix continuity. But that's mostly contained inside Teen Titans stories, so you can just read Teen Titans and understand it all. New Teen Titans is mostly new characters that you can understand by just reading New Teen Titans. Robin is of course a Batman character, but you probably understand enough about Robin to get what's going on. The original Teen Titans show up, but due to the mistake with Wonder Girl's origin, she's a Teen Titans character and you can pretty much just read Teen Titans and get all of her story. Kid Flash, Speedy, and Aqualad show up sometimes, and their stories tie in with Flash, Green Arrow, and Aquaman a bit, but actually by this point New Teen Titans was more popular than all of those, so it's more like you need to read New Teen Titans to understand when they show up in the other series, more than the other way around. Then the Crisis on Infinite Earths happens, but it's written by the guy who wrote New Teen Titans. So read it as if it's part of New Teen Titans and you'll be fine. After the Crisis on Infinite Earths is when crossovers and reliance on readers already knowing continuity get really ridiculous though. So yeah. Look readers being locked out by too much reliance on continuity is a major problem. But if you wanna read Teen Titans and/or New Teen Titans, those ones are understandable. It's the later Teen Titans series (and Titans, and Young Justice) when it starts to become a problem. So I'm just making clear, go read New Teen Titans. It's great.
>>36848 All I get from your posts is that everything should be dropped after Crisis on Infinite Earths.
>>36849 Only if you're a smoothbrain who can't appreciate things after they get even more complex. There's great stuff that comes from that, but it gets more complicated and you gotta have more prerequisite knowledge. A terrible business decision on the part of the publishers, but it's fun for readers who do bother to understand it. But yes, the period before was still great and didn't require all the prerequisite knowledge.
>>36848 What about Titans Tomorrow?
>>36854 That's beyond my autism. I gotta get more into Teen Titans. That and Legion of Superheroes are my two biggest blank spots in my collection of DC autism.
>>36850 >smoothbrain You're supposed to leave cuckchan speech at the door before entering.
>>36859 I haven't been to that site since 2014. I might have picked it up from some cuckchanner that crossposted here, though. Not sure. I haven't heard it in years, so it didn't hit be as being one of those stupid modern slang terms that bugs me.
>>36859 >Gatekeeping while allowing permabanned cuckchanners and /v/erming shit on the boads all they wanted You fucked it up, Frank, you fucked up the board worse than Mark and Janny, somehow. Now just let the board die because death is way better than the current cuckchan/gg circlejerk you've turned it into, and then please kill yourself live on 8tv
>>36908 >gg circlejerk But Frank bans people who point out that SJW cartoons are SJW. He's not at all trying to make things a gg circlejerk, unless you think he's false flagging just to make people even more mad on purpose.
>>36908 >>36909 You sure cry a lot.
>>36909 He managed to both ban people for calling out SJW cartoons AND allowed cuckchan circlejerk to wander around somehow. It's amazing >>36911 Hi, Frank. Now go fuck yourself.
>>36909 You said tsundere characters in anime are "sjw" your opinion is worthless.
>>36911 Those are two different people. The second one is disagreeing with one of the first one's points. >>36914 No, but your attempt to paint SJW "strong women" characters and strawman males as the same as tsundere anime characters shows that you're just an SJW. You might as well just tell me Carol Danvers is just tsundere for Tony Stark. You might as well just take the next step and tell me SJW cartoons don't exist.
>>36915 >You might as well just tell me Carol Danvers is just tsundere for Tony Stark. Does she want to suck his Iron Dick and call him daddy? If not, she isn't tsundere, she's just a bitch. Just call it out straight up.
>>36915 You outright said Asuka from Evangelion is an example of an "SJW character", or were you just trying to piss off Acid?
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If my only exposure to comics was stuff up to the 70's-80's I absolutely understand where the practice bullying nerds came from. On a tangential note, I despise mainstream comic media with a passion.


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