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/co/ Pain Thread 8: Superslop at the end of the rainbow! Anonymous 03/03/2024 (Sun) 23:43:36 No. 38885
The world's on fire but the slop doesn't stop getting churned! Your thread for venting all your frustrations on various /co/ related movies, books, games, & shows is back! Feeling lucky? You shouldn't! The first tease of James Gunn's Superman has been revealed. Calling back to Kingdom Come but with a gold sigil & 50% less crappy textures. Will James Gunn save DC & Warner Bros.? Probably not but they're too far along to stop. On the animated side we're still getting not one but two more Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths parts to the Tomorrowverse. A disaster of an animated universe somehow worse than the New 52 based one previously. But they're bringing back Will Friedle as Terry McGinnis/Batman Beyond & Kevin Conroy's real last performance along for the ride. Also still getting the Suicide Squad Isekai anime. Something no one asked for that's clearly gotten too much yet not enough effort put into it. If you weren't sick of Harley already, now you're getting ANOTHER live action take on her in the sequel to Joker. An upcoming musical drama about Arthur finding love in the craziest of places. Arkham Asylum. But wait! There's more! Hollywood isn't just regurgitating Marvel & DC slop anymore! We're getting a reboot of The Crow. A film infamously starring Brandon Lee as the titular Crow that led to his untimely accidental death due to incompetence on set. Now The Crow/Eric Draven is being reimagined for a.... modern... audience. None of that comic book accuracy in looks though. No no. They've Jared Leto'd him for a new generation. It's a bold strategy, anons. Let's see how it plays out.
>>38885 What race traitor studio's involved with Isekai Squad?
>>38887 Wit Studio
>>38885 >Joker 2 Even if Harley wasn't in this, my expectations would still be rather low. Joker really should've remained a standalone film. >The Crow Reboot As someone who knows next to nothing about the original comics or the 1994 movie, my condolences go out to the fans. >Suicide Squad Isekai In the last thread, I said that I wanted to be pumped for this, but decided to not get too enthusiastic due to DC's track record. I think I made the right call, because so far it really doesn't look all that interesting. I won't be surprised if this show ends up being sadly forgotten a couple weeks after it's released.
>>38885 Why do you keep complaining?
>>38898 Catharsis.
Megamind is back, but at the cost of the animation quality. A Peacock Original.
>>38901 Technically this is anime. And too cute for it's own good.
>>38907 Couldn't even get the original voice actors back. No thanks.
Saw Kung Fu Panda 4. >Obvious art style change makes everyone look off. >Furious Five aren't in the movie until the credits for a voiceless training cameo. Literally none of them have any lines beyond stock Rogen noises. >Ping & Li, Po's dads, take up the subplot time for no reason because they're worried about Po not being able to handle a sorceress. It's fine for them to worry about they really just waste screen time. >Tai Lung comes back through his spirit being summoned from the spirit realm by The Chameleon. Shen & Kai are too but they aren't voiced so have no interaction with Po. >Awkwafina's character, Zhen, isn't quite a Mary Sue. She's only good at stealing & has moderately okay fighting skills but Po beats her every time they fight. She's still chosen by him to the next Dragon Warrior while Po becomes full time Spiritual Leader. >Really not funny. >The Chameleon is a weak villain who's stealing kung fu chi soul energy because she was rejected from learning kung fu because of her size. >Weak message rehashing the first movie about how anyone can grow to be a peach tree if the seed is nurtured. >Lots of action in the movie with things constantly happening but there's no impact or skill for most of it. Really just a very very okay movie. Pointless as a Kung Fu Panda sequel. This should've gone straight to streaming.
>>38901 >Outsource one of the most well known pieces of Americana to the fucking Japanese William and Joseph must be rolling in their fucking graves right now.
>>38976 It's super popular in Japan. You even have people like this guy just making little miniatures of Tom & Jerry moments. https://twitter.com/inouetable
>>38977 A lot of old American cartoons are/were super popular in Japan. Wacky Races is one I know was pretty big over there (kind of ironic since it was a similar thing in the US with Speed Racer/Mach GoGoGo)
>>38977 That's actually really cool. >>38994 Really? I had no idea. Do you know if it's because of the more retro look of older cartoons or the animation or something else?
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Well a trailer for The Crow remake is out. My favorite part is when a black wig falls on nu-Eric & he looks in the mirror saying "Not in a million years."
>>39014 Terrible just as expected.
The third trailer for Suicide Squad Isekai confirming one more key feature. The ED is sung by Mori Calliope.
>>39014 >My favorite part is when a black wig falls on nu-Eric & he looks in the mirror saying "Not in a million years." What the fuck is it with modern adaptations and remakes denigrating the original? It's infuriating.
>>39017 You have the lewd thread.
>>39023 Egotistical directors & studios who don't respect what came before or the source materials. They only care about money & think they can do it better. They wanna "modernize" the story for a woke audience from Portland & California. >>39024 I'm not dumping Harley Quinn horse porn for you, anon.
>>39023 He's making a joke about DmC's failed reboot.
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>>39014 Now if only they recreate the scene where they shot him but instead with an AK-47 wiping out the entire crew.
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There a new documentary series out called Quiet on Set. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193442/?ref_=tt_urv It details the experiences of child actors who worked with Nickelodean and Dan Schneider. And it gets proper dark. In Summery: >EP 1 introduces the former Buzzfeed writer and two of the women who worked with Dan on All That in 1994. One of the writer's says "They hired a white man for a better salary than me because I had already worked their for a season." There's some Greasy behavior but it's alot of cat calling by writers that haven't done much. The other female writer though worked on King of the Hill from 2007 to 2010, she's had an actual successful career. >Ep 2 is the early 2000s, covering how close Dan was to Amanda Bynes and the new cast of All That. Funniest scene here was they painted the token black male kid in peanut butter then set the dogs on him. Never in my southern slave owner wildest dreams could I come up with something so funny. Still some Greasy behavior but then the Pedo Jason Handy is revealed. He had 10k pictures, multiple videos and zip lock bags with names attached to them. He got 6 years from 2004 to 2010, re-arrested for indecent exposure and federal sex offender violations in 2014 and now he's a full convicted Pedo. He won't get out till 2038. >Ep 3 is when things get really dark. It introduces Brian Peck, who worked on the Amanda Show where Drake Bell is an extra. Drake narrates how Brian cut him off from his supportive father, how his mother basically didn't watch Drake and then Drake was abused by Brain. This was after the Amanda show but before Drake and Josh. Drake got so bad they had to reshoot the pilot because he wasn't coping well. Brian was eventually arrested and sentenced to 16 months and registered as a child predator. He still kinda works, last project was 2019 and still resides in LA. Drake and his father have a better relationship, thankfully. The mother isn't mentioned, obviously. Drake was listed as the John Doe in the court case cause he was underage and his father didn't know at the time that he was the one Brian had molested. >Ep 4 is the downfall of Schneider. This is where it brings up the feet stuff on Sam & Cat or iCarly. He gets investigated in 2014 and told "you can't interact with the cast anymore". But Nick still keeps him around for shows. In 2017 he's shoved out the door with 7 million dollars. In 2024, the co-star of Sam & Cat wrote her autobiography where she stated that Dan was as Greasy as he seemed. The best part was Drake Bell. Like... Damn, Brian Peck was actually picked up by Disney to work on Zack and Cody after being let go by Nickelodeon. And Drake has carried that with him all these years, to be abused right before he stared in the show that had his name on it and he strangely says that the only person who reached out to him was Schneider. That Dan didn't know Brian was a predator and he said he'd help him anyway he could. I've cut some .mp4s but I do recommend watching it. Just ignore the catcalling and focus on Dan's behavior. Frankly I'm shocked it took this long for this to get made, dude has been a meme for years for a reason. Also love the low key dig at Nick with the "safety standards are in place" when 3 pedos were caught between 2003 and 2005. These are at the end of each episode, like a "Please drink responsibly" thing is placed at the end of a drinking advert.
>>39076 It's nice that Drake has a better relationship with his father after everything that happened.
>>39076 >>39077 Pretty fucked up what happened to one of the worst cartoon Spider-men. But he had a pretty successful career from Drake & Josh. Sure the Fairly Odd Parents live action movies sucked but it was Drake's own actions that caused him to spiral out of control & also attempt to groom a minor. Maybe the trauma of getting molested really did just stick with him for that long.
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>>39076 >>39077 >A recent Viacom cinema masterpiece <That wasn't even produced by themselves But hey, that shouldn't stop their diaper collecting cattle from watching the new Spongebob slop film or whatever the nostalgia cash grab they're gonna' pull out for their shitty livestream platform. >For Warner Bros Discovery Can't believe TimeWarner didn't merge with them, they got so much in common, the only difference is that they earned the tumblr audience therefore any allegations are nothing but gossiping.
>>39076 Haven't finished the series, but that Drake episode really got to me. It's a shame what people can get away with in the entertainment industry.
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Kinda just taking what positives I can from the Deadpool movies. This one's no different. Possibly going to actually have Jackman wearing the Wolverine mask with white eyes. We'll also get live action takes on the Deadpool Corps. Now the story tying into Loki's TVA, the mess that is the MCU multiverse lore, & y'know how Deadpool 2 got a lady killed because of race swapping kinda puts a damper on these things.
>>39110 >Deadpool 2 got a lady killed because of race swapping What, when?
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>>39140 When Deadpool 2 was filming. The stunt actress for Domino died in a motorcycle stunt gone wrong because they didn't give her a helmet. Literally could've been avoided but because they race swapped Domino & gave her an afro, the stunt actress was not given a helmet. That's why Domino's action scene in the movie looks like shit. It was shot last minute.
>>39144 >>Gotta show the chuds that we hate hwite people <Ends up killing a mystery meat dyke <In a stereotypical manner: Not giving a shit on basic safety measures
Chuck Dixon is a Qboomer and has been making a comic about him.
I figured this would be the best thread to bring this up. Looks like something happened to Ed Piskor over the weekend. The usual suspects popped up and accused him of this and that and now apparently he left a note and has been missing. A local detective followed it up and last I heard the detective sent an EMT to the guy's house. Wonder what happened. I got the info from the Comic Artist Pro Secrets youtube channel. The guy is having a live stream right now talking about it.
>>39217 He's dead. Killed himself.
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>>39217 >>39220 Brother has confirmed he killed himself.
>>39221 Jim Rugg throw his friend under the bus, Ed only wishes that the LLC they established stay up so they can split profits to go to his family. What a dick. https://bleedingcool.com/comics/hip-hop-family-tree-creator-ed-piskor-dies-aged-41/
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>>39220 >>39221 >>39222 April Fools!
>>39221 I'm ambivalent. On one hand, I despise the motives and the culture of the ones blamed in this letter but I also feel the man went out in a very whiny and cowardly way. The cancel mob absolutely destroys lives but killing yourself as a clear spite move toward them is really lame. Rest in peace, I suppose.
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>>39224 >April's Fools <He did fucking die >>39235 Him committing suicide is what they really want to achieve once he got targeted, despite these faggy progs virtual signalling about "le depression bad", but in reality they just want to mass massacre anyone hurting their egos.
>>39250 They don't care about double standards these are whiny narcissistic mentally ill fucks.
Repostin from another thread.
>People with the same job or hobby living in close proximity to each other influence or nepotistically insert themselves into their work absolutely shocking news
>>39275 That's not the point, retard. It's interesting to look at the evolution of art styles and influences, though. It's not as simple as "living in close proximity," as you can see the chart is about checking work history. It's interesting to see which bosses had influences on which employees who went on to become bosses and influence further employees, and see the evolution of styles.
>>39413 >evolution >most just lead to same looking blobby cal-arts shows >some lead to just showrunning korean made slop
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>>39014 >The Crow remake I was never a huge fan of the Crow comic, but I could have sworn there were more Crows than just Draven. Couldn't they have just carried on with a new one?
>>39076 Anyone catch Dan "Feet Don't Fail Me Now" Schneider's "apology" for "not noticing what all the other perverts (not me) were doing to the kids"?
>>39417 Because they wanna coast off of the original movie's fame but only do a surface level broadstrokes adaptation of it.
>>39413 I supposed a sequel to #MeToo is out of the question, as long they fall in line, sexual assaults should be considered flirty puns. Didn't the Sony leaks reveal something similar but with hotshot actors such as Bill Murray? (considering both movies and cartoons industries are equally pozzed)
>>39416 That doesn't contradict the point. >>39417 Everything else with The Crow except the original comic and movie are direct to video garbage or the comic book equivalent of it.
>>39437 Evolution usually tends to imply positive change.
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First trailer for Joker: Folie à Deux has now dropped. Still don't know what to think about it. I think Lady Gaga's gonna be the most divisive factor to it.
>>39475 It depends on where the story goes. I have my expectations based on what I've seen in the trailers, but I'm nearly always wrong.
>>39440 That strongly depends on context. Not in that context.
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>>39475 Hesitantly intrigued. Arthur is not the Joker we know on pretty much any level, so they've got the ability to go nuts with it, and Googoogaipan is an okay actress. If it does well, expect her to get the Oscar nom regardless of whether or not she deserves it, just to "stick it to the incel chuds" they think made the first one great.
>>39437 >Everything else with The Crow except the original comic and movie are direct to video garbage or the comic book equivalent of it. Sure, but that doesn't really change what I said. They had options.
Consumers don't matter for companies anymore, just pander to some shady organization
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Deadpool & Wolverine trailer was shown off at CinemaCon. Yeah never heard of it either. Most we got right now though is possible confirmation of Wolverine in the mask & white eyes.
>>39475 It will probably interesting at the very least, even if it's bad. It might be worse than the first film, since I can't think of any Scorsese movie Phillips could crib from for this one, like he did it off of King of Comedy and Taxi Driver for the first film. >>39235 I am surprised that he specifically named Alex DeCampi in his letter as the harasser out of all the people he and his parents got attacked by. Of course, most articles talking about the suicide do not mention that tidbit.
>>39506 Looks like a decent design but of all the things to cgi, they couldn't edit his arms.
>>39528 Yeah you make a good point. Maybe maybe towards the end the sleeves will get ripped off indoors. Jackman had the skin cancer scare so they wanna be careful.
Trailer for Transformers One came out. It sucks. The tone is your typical Whedon-esque unserious ragtag group of losers who are comedically incompetent kind of movie. Very generic studio drive kids film corporate mindset. The TRANSFORMERS don't have the inherent ability to transform. Apparently it's separated by the classes. So you're gonna get some Surf Dracula here where it's just a pointless prequel to them actually becoming the recognizable characters maybe by the end. Megatron's a goofy fucking black guy & Bumblebee's voiced by Keegan Michael Key. Terrible voices. https://files.catbox.moe/c3ncsr.mp4
>>39608 >The TRANSFORMERS don't have the inherent ability to transform. Apparently it's separated by the classes. That is partially true to the cartoon, but still a completely different story. In G1, after the Cybertronians rebelled and displaced the Quintessons (Their creators), a race/class war broke out between the Autobots (Consumer robots) and the Decepticons (Military robots). This "Second Cybertron War" is where the Autobots learned how to "transform" and brought about their victory. However the Decepticons later learned that ability too, which brought about the "Third Cybertron War" which the Autobits were losing and where the original cartoon picks up.
>>39609 Well this one's before the war even happens or at least not the war we know because there's remnants of bots on the surface through which they get their transformation abilities from. It seems like it's gonna lead into the class warfare thing though. But the Decepticons will be made up of worker & the outcast bots Starscream is currently in charge of.
>>39608 I think also the problem is that the film looks like one long video game cutscene.
>>39616 That's not a problem. It's animated & a completely alien world of machines is going to look like that in any CGI.
>>39608 >The tone is your typical Whedon-esque unserious ragtag group of losers who are comedically incompetent kind of movie. One look at Optimus' Dreamworks face and I could tell instantly.
>>39608 Hoo boy. Not mad the conceptual idea is good. But why can't we get a more darker tone like in the comics since they are bassicallycopying them , and not overtly gorey or dumb like Micheal bay. Do they think that kids won't watch transformers cause it's dark or is it because the netflix show sucked? Can't wait for toys, if there'll be any
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>>39656 It's because Illumination sells. It's possibly influenced by the novel that's the prequel for the War for Cybertron games. That was a serious take & all but obviously they're trying to go for the "wider audience" market of trying to appeal to everyone at once but appealing to no one by being safely obnoxious. What's even weirder is this movie was planned to be a prequel to the Bayverse when it was conceptualized. Wouldn't exactly have been any better. They really just don't know what to do with the franchise after Prime.
>>39661 >after Prime Transformers has sucked ever since they started rebooting it all the time in the early 2000s. Fans always talk about how Hasbro didn't realize kids cared about the characters, and were surprised when they were upset that they killed Optimus Prime. But rebooting him, along with the whole world, is no different. Each time they reboot it, the old characters I may have cared about, the old world I may have cared about, is dead. The new ones have to earn my care from scratch. It doesn't matter if the new guy sorta looks like Optimus. Ultra Magnus sorta looked like Optimus, but he was no replacement. Calling him the same name doesn't matter either. It's a new guy, so I don't care. And after rebooting so many times, then I really don't care. And yes, I do love Beast Wars, but that's largely because the show was on long enough to make me care about the characters, and actually being well written didn't hurt either. No series has been as well written as Beast Wars/Machines since then. But also, tying it in heavily with G1 helped significantly, as it gave you an extra reason to care about the world. Also, any hope of it ever being worth it again has been gone for years now, ever since IDW introduced Trannyformers: Faggots In Disguise.
>>39663 I for one would rather have new characters all the time instead of rehashing the G1 cast. But nostalgia sells.
>>39664 They are effectively new characters, but they're new characters who are similar to the old characters. So it's none of the connection you had to the new characters, since they aren't actually the people you followed, but it's none of the surprise of new characters, since they have the same character traits of old characters. It's the worst of both worlds.
>>39667 Then we should just get actual new character. There's no benefit from rehashing another iteration of the same character molds.
>>39663 Well they would've continued with that if they didn't fuck up beast machines + the og transtech had really bad design to turn into toys. Hell the jap car robots were g1 sequels.
>>39664 >>39669 They tried that with original movie in the 80's and Season 4 of G1. And people complained about why wasn't Optimus in the series anymore to the point that they had to revive him numerous times before just shrugging off the concept of him staying dead. Even in nuRiD, which centered around Bumblebee and the only other "veteran" being Grimlock, they had to bring Optimus back despite him being dead after the events of Prime. Also as a side note, Bayformers is actually surprisingly accurate to the cartoon series, but for all of the wrong reasons.
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New trailer for Deadpool & Wolverine dropped. Very very heavy MCU elements. >>39672 RiD failed because it was completely dumbed down compared to Prime for no reason. Despite being a sequel.
>>39673 I hope deadpool is the last hurrah and then capeshit can die for good.
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>>39528 >>39533 Looks like they did edit the arms.
>>39678 >Liefeld feet Lmao, thats a good one
>>39671 Beast Machines is awesome and I'm tired of pretending its not. I also think the concept for Transtech sounded great, and I'm still disappointed we never got to see it. And I'm no engineer, but those toys looked cooler than some of the other weird designs we've gotten over the years, like Transformers Animated. >>39672 Yeah but that was also sort of because Rodimus Prime sucked. Optimus Primal was cool, though. A distinct character with just enough of the traits to keep some of the appeal, but not try to actually make you think it's the same guy while simultaneously having none of his history. They gotta stop trying to have their cake and eat it too.
>>39677 How much movie trends like Western, 90s action and 00s teen comedies lasted at the end?
>>39681 Westerns were some of the biggest films for like 60 years. They were a major draw from the dawn of film until the '50s and '60s, and while everyone talks about the genre dying out at that point, there are plenty of examples since. '90s action movies were just an extension of '80s action movies, and I wouldn't say they went away after the '90s, either. Maybe they went away during the 2000s or even 2010s, or perhaps they really just got supplanted by superhero movies, which are action movies anyway. You mention 00s teen comedies, but really I'd say those all date back to Animal House in 1978. It's a pretty straight line from Animal House to all those terrible American Pie direct to video sequels. I'd count "The Frat Pack" in there, too, and that includes Seth Rogan and all the terrible shit he's put out in the last few years. But what was the last thing Rogan did that made any money at all? Ten years ago with that North Korea movie? Did Sausage Party make any money? Either way, I'd say those comedies exist in a pretty straight lineage from 1978 to the mid 2010s, and they only stopped then because comedy effectively became illegal. Capeshit will continue, but with significantly less output than the last few years. Marvel and DC have tarnished their brands very badly, but the properties that were still big draws before the boom may continue to be big draws. At least the biggest ones might. Spider-Man and Batman might keep making money, maybe, if their movies aren't Captain Marvel-tier bad. Everything else will probably die off. They'll keep trying with X-Men, because X-Men was a huge draw before this boom, and it's the movie that started the boom, but I think they're going to have a really hard time continuing without Jackman, and the more they keep bringing him back, the more they're only lessening the appeal and tarnishing the brand. Hulk was also a major draw before, but it doesn't look like they're getting rid of Soy Hulk any time soon, so that means they aren't gonna be making any profit from that character any time soon. Fantastic Four was big back in the day and that would be their last chance at success. Then they announced they're making Silver Surfer a girl. So they threw their last chance out the window. It's like in one of their movies when the hero reaches out to lift the villain off the cliff, and the villain slaps the hero's hand away, because he'd rather die out of spite instead of admitting he was wrong.
Invincible was animated in North Korea > North Korean animators may be involved in Japan anime production, report says https://archive.ph/BZ7BD < Shows with suspected North Korean involvement include the Japanese television anime series "Dahliya In Bloom," scheduled to air in July, and the U.S. animated series "Invincible." Some files in the cloud server carried the name of an animation studio based in Sapporo.
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>>39702 >Kaufman the talentless jew enslaving his talented friends to illustrate his fanfictions <Made his big break shitting on christianity and conservatives, because that's what attention whoring punks praise >However his fame wouldn't last because of everyone not taking seriously capeshit and moving on, so many universe resets and trying way too hard catering to edgelords >Makes sense for him to hire slaves from a communist shithole, considering North Korea's propaganda movies/cartoons/videogames also get fucked over by the competition <It's like everyone outside of their echochambers just fucking hate blatant propaganda How the hell did you get an alliance to a hermit country? Looks like lefties are not so threatening to democracy.
>>39714 You mean Kirkman, right? And what the fuck are you on about with his fame not lasting due to being tied to capeshit? He's most famous for The Walking Dead. Also, you're a retard for denying that capeshit was normalfags' favorite thing until it suddenly turned into SJW propaganda. Normalfags don't care about your autistic complaints. They're too stupid to even comprehend them.
>>39715 I don't know what anon's schizo rant was about either. Just assume he meant Kirkman. With this however, it's a bit more complicated than that. The average normalnigger loves the idea of superheroes but knows next to nothing about them beyond the surface level. Normalniggers haven't read comics since the 80s - 90s at least.
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>>39715 >(((Kirkman))) What I mean is that he's the modern Stan Lee >Can't draw for shit <Better get someone to bust their wrists while he just spitballs into whatever fanfiction he's gonna' throw into the editorial >Finally made it into the big leagues while the guys who did the hard work are stuck flipping burgers at McDonald's >>39716 His comic that did set the foundations to his career before The Wanking Dead was Battle Pope, published during the early 2000s where punk humor was still a thing (of course mocking anything that wasn't liberal enough)
>>39717 You need to lead with that next time. Wouldn't know what you're talking about otherwise.
You don't see male characters like this not even in the most subversive and "modern" western media.
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>>39702 This exactly explain why burger cartoons are still backward produce now I want to know how many pennies really went into north Korea
>>39753 That's because the character's appealing in a way that's similar to an ordinary woman. The Twitter/Tumblr demographic doesn't like that because they find anything normal offensive since they fail at normalcy and can't relate to it. Their idea of a "feminine men" is emasculated since they consider masculinity a threat or any idea of competency in general cause it reminds them of their failures as people. Traps like pic related have both by possessing the physical appeal of feminity and the mental fortitude of a man by taking the initiative and being able to handle stress and hardship much easier which is why most politically correct media has beta males and transexuals. Even anime and manga that have LGBT are largely pretty "normal" or competent in a similar manner I've described, even the stereotypes like Emporio Ivankov from One Piece or Chaplin Sukegawa from Deadman Wonderland. TL;DR They want subversive characters that aren't "competent" and promoted to feel better over their inadequacy stemming from politically correct ideals.
>>39770 What about that gay Batman and Superman couple?
>>39773 Which ones? I'm not all too familiar with DC media.
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>>39773 You mean how people ship Damian & Jon? That's not popular with the specific demographic comic books want to market to. As in people who demonized loli & shota but promote Californian approved gays only. They're afraid of this so Jon had to be aged up as the "right" kind of gay.
>>39774 I mean Midnighter and Apollo.
>>39776 Weren't originally DC characters & they're not feminine dudes in the slightest.
>>39776 Never heard of those characters.
>>39779 They are less harmful than this character.
>>39786 Think you forgot an image there.
>>39788 The thing that mades japanese fiction a lot more dangerous is that it can be likeable, you barely see people liking woke shit and the majority reject it but everyone is supporting japanese shit now, you can even ask trannies and almost everyone would tell you that they love anime.
>>39789 Okay I think I'm following your logic now. You're fucking stupid but I'm understanding what you're saying now. A cute shota is not going to harm anything. Edgy gay expies of Batman & Superman are far far far more influential for the worst.
>>39790 They aren't influential, If they weren't gay nobody would care about them, that's they only character trait, at least they haven't replaced more important characters yet.
>>39791 That's exactly what makes them known though. Being gay & edgy.
>>39792 They are a proof that gay stuff isn't popular.
>>39796 You keep changing arguments.
>>39797 Fucking hell, the show that gets a new oxygen tank and refuses to fucking die. >Nonbinary faggots got pink hair Oh no not like this Viacom, you may traffic children but stereotyping the well intended people is too far.
>>39798 You can ask any tranny or fag and they will tell you that they love anime.
>>39800 There you go again. This means nothing. Did you know how also drank water? Hitler!
>>39797 Why is Timmy a nigger?
>>39803 That's not timmy. Timmy is an balding fat actor
>>39801 You will see that effect eventually.
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We finally have a look at James Gunn's Superman suit. It's one step in the right direction with giving Superman his red trunks again but still stuck several steps behind with modern Superman designs. New 52 style lines everywhere for no reason along with the collar. Material texture that makes it look like a basket ball. It's just dirty in this promo though so it's probably gonna be much brighter than Snyder's suit at least.
>>39846 The New 52 and its consequences will haunt us for decades.
>>39851 If Didio and Quesada never existed as EICs of their respective corners of the Big 2, I wonder if Capeshit would be in a healthier state comics-wise?
>>39846 I like the characterization this image gives him, but being that it's a (((modern))) superhero film I'm cautiously optimistic for it. Seriously, like every Superman-related film this millennium has given Supes almost no character, or just sucked for one reason or another.
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>>39797 Speaking of Niggerlodeon, some guy who watched the test screenings of the other Ren & Stimpy reboot spilled the beans, same cancer as the Animaniacs reboot despite being written by different hipsters but same retarded meta/political jokes that don't fit into the show's original humor. They're gonna' make Adult Party into a masterpiece in comparison.
>>39852 Depends. They could've always been replaced by much worse people through history instead.
>>39856 See, I know it CAN get worse because we're living it right now, but they were active during the 2000s, the last time anyone was half-sane and before leftism truly metastasized as a tumor. I struggle to imagine who (at the time) could've done worse than event spam and grimderp.
>>39858 Could've gotten the woke slop earlier. Or it could've gotten even edgier.
Seeing Helldivers 2 case, It seems that complain online have some impact in the world, You can do something with this?
>>39859 >it could've gotten even edgier. There's Ennis, who treats superheroes much like Chris Chan treats store managers or members of law enforcement in Sonichu. But then again, Superman is one of the few capes he actually likes despite making his own "Evil Superman but also Captain America kind of"
>>39865 Imagine a timeline where Mark Millar took Joe Quesada's places.
>>39864 Depends on the company's financial state.
>>39859 There's the safe-edgy category, have the superheroes beat the shit out of rightwingers, cops and anyone opposing their ideals.
>>39874 >first pic Fitting sound effects for people who look like they're about to explode
>>39874 >Canada's edgiest webcomic artist It's a real shame what happened to Canada. Used to have a lot of great, groundbreaking comics and cartoons. Hell, back in the '90s, they had a reputation for being actually edgier. I like to always reference ReBoot, which immediately got dark and edgy as soon as the American network cancelled it and it was only aired on Canadian TV for a while. But the award for edgiest Canadian cartoon probably goes to Space Moose. The university tried to go after the creator, who goes by the pen name "Mustafa al-Habib," but he actually won at the time. But that was a long time ago.
>>39878 Wouldn't be surprising if they track him down and bring up his problematic comic to the public, instead of focusing on third-worlders raping and murdering leafs.
>>38885 Turns out they did leak the other Ren & Stimpy reboot, now with more hipster inducing humor just to erase John K, it's the Animaniacs reboot all over again, however the other guys behind it also threw the towel disappointed because of Viacom turning everything into shit. Imagine my shock Cuckchan's /co/ moderators quickly deleted the episode in question, they always have their pants down ready to take it up the ass
They're making "safe conservative" now. >https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4jcSBYQVEHY
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>>39888 Not as strong as it could be / 10. >Conservitives: "When did everything get wrapped up in feelings?" And "You can't use They as a pronoun." >Actual Comedian: "I don't need a $25 bible to read about God okay?! I almost bleed out in Korea! I HAVE MET GOD!" https://youtu.be/KiW9sLeH9Ds?si=AcAjh3BAFO6Gn_kT&t=20 Hire actual comedy writers Daily Wire, please. You can afford to bring in voice talent, you can afford to get non-union writers.
>>39887 >>39888 Where's the humor outside of the guy just being an ass? Why would I watch this over reruns of Last Man Standing?
>>39888 If they at least tried with the animation so they could've actually stood out among generic adult animated comedies.... well it'd still be a pretty safe conservative show but it'd look nicer.
>>39908 This is the first step.
>>39775 You'd just move the goalpost and call them pedophiles.
>>39945 Not unless someone actually got molested.
>>39888 A few years ago they won't allowed this, this is something I guess
>>39882 You got a link to the leaked episodes?
If Trump wins there would be a noticeable change in the industry?
>>40170 When Trump wins he will make anime real.
>>40170 Of course! Can't have Trump straw-manning and lefty virtue signalling without an orange president.
>>39475 Perhaps might be a download but tge first one was okay.
>>40170 Considering Stephen Colbert's recent cartoon was a shitacular failure: >No drumpfs <No shekels funds Liberals just fucking suck at humor and rely on whatever it's trending on social media.
>>40176 Why are lefties so obsessed with penises?
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>>40179 It's the closest they can get when it comes to edgy humor.
>>40179 Because they're faggots.
>>40179 Because they don't have one.
>>40179 >black crime, trans suicide, jews, women
the new garfield the cat movie is currently the second highest grossing animated film of the year my source is i checked boxofficemojo
>>40190 Yeah the worldwide box office saved it. The opening weekend was terrible domestically.
You would take shit like The Boys comic and the Ultimate universe over "woke" creations?
>>40199 furfield didn't seem to take off like barbenheimer
>>38885 I don't expect to see a Crow that looks like his first line will be >"I'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit."
>>40229 Yeah people didn't warm up to a prequel for a side character who just overshadowed Max. >>40223 Both are bad for different reasons.
>>40233 >Both are bad for different reasons. And both are safe enough for mainstream advertisement.
>>40237 No neither comic is safe for mainstream audiences. The show is incredibly watered down & even then it's not a mainstream show. Meanwhile the MCU only took the designs for some characters from the Ultimate comics. The comics themselves couldn't be adapted the way they were into movie form & be as big as the MCU.
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On set looks at Superman & Mr. Terrific in James Gunn's Superman movie. Gunn is actually trying with the costumes again. Where was this during Guardians of the Galaxy?! Still I have a distaste for the New 52 inspired Superman look. Trunks do at least make a difference but the lines on the body are dumb.
>>40317 What the fuck does Mr. Terrific have to do with Superman? Have those characters ever even interacted in the comics? He's a Justice Society guy, but Superman barely interacts with them. And he's not even one of the original JSA guys, he's one of the second (or third) generation JSA'ers, so it's not like he'd be a mentor. If they had Alan Scott or something, I'd get it. But Michael Holt? Look, I know people on this board (AKA the BO) don't like having the obvious pointed out, but I'm immediately fearful that this is just a character that was picked because he's a black guy. Either way, they're not adapting any really good comic story by using him in a Superman movie.
>>40318 The movie's going to have a lot of other characters in it not strictly Superman related. Hawkgirl, Metamorpho, & Guy Gardner are also set to appear.
>>40322 >The movie's going to have a lot of other characters in it not strictly Superman related Why?
>>40323 Because it's semi inspired by All Star Superman. This is gonna be a new universe but with a Superman who's already established with a history.
>>40322 Those characters all make more sense than Mr. Terriffic, especially Michael Holt, since at least they're JLA guys. Though I'm still very worried that Hawkgirl will be a feminist (probably black) even though the reason she was cool in Justice League Unlimited was because she was the one who spoke up when Diana was semi-cool with Artemis trying to kill all men. I mean she still cosmically cucked Carter Hall by getting blacked by John Stewart, but... oh shit. They're gonna do that in live action, next. Also, I fully expect Guy Gardner to be a strawman conservative. I'd love to be proven wrong, because when written well he's one of the best characters in DC, but I don't know if I'm holding my breath for cancel-culture happy James Gunn to be the guy to do that. >>40324 Are any of those characters in All-Star Superman? There are a lot of characters who have more important relationships with Superman, and who are more important to the world, who I would be much more interested in seeing. And I like Michael Holt, but he has nothing to do with Superman. In a JSA movie or a movie at least about someone who has some ties to the JSA, then cool. But Superman isn't a JSA guy. Even back in the Golden Age, he was only an honorary member. And Michael Holt wasn't born or invented at that point anyway.
>>40328 Yeah it's a bit of a problem just having a bloated cast. They're just trying to establish a Justice League without redoing the same line up or a whole origin movie again.
>>40329 They should be doing JLI, then. Michael Holt has no place on the Justice League, any more than Jay Garrick or Alan Scott does.
>>40330 They could be. Not enough details are out there yet.
>>40330 Guy Gardner is a JLI guy, but Hawkgirl and Michael Holt aren't. I mean I think there was some version of Hawkgirl that was briefly on the JLI, but she's not one of the main ones, and that was a massive continuity clusterfuck that should never be spoken of ever again. If they want no-namers like Michael Holt on there, then they should be using Ted Kord and Booster Gold. They have interesting relationships with Guy Gardner, and Superman, for that matter. Instead of Hawkgirl, use Fire and Ice. I mean maybe they still will, but I doubt it. I can accept Superman being on the JLI, Batman was on there, after all. But I strongly doubt that's what they're doing. I've been wishing they'd do a JLI movie for years. At this point I almost hope they don't. But nothing they do will be better, either.
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>>40324 >a Superman who's already established with a history So it's going to skip over ALL OF THE SHIT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO SEE and just start right in the middle with the story about a character that we (The audience) have zero connection, interest, history, or chemistry with. Why do these people never ever realize that you have to actually give the audience a reason to give a flying fuck about the characters in your movie instead of just introducing them and expecting people to be on board with it? They don't need to make the entire movie an origin story, just spend the first 10 minutes establishing where this Superman came from, what his motivations are, and how he's been acting upon those motivations. Cut, dry, and you don't waste the audiences time. The cartoon from the 90's accomplished this in less than a minute, why can't the highest paid people in Pedowood in a two hour movie?
>>40333 >They don't need to make the entire movie an origin story, just spend the first 10 minutes establishing where this Superman came from, what his motivations are, and how he's been acting upon those motivations. Cut, dry, and you don't waste the audiences time. Ideally they would do this. Actually use the opening credits & title drop to establish a character visually in summation. But they probably won't.
>>40333 I'd love a story of the DCU that has permanent endings for characters. A beginning, middle and end for each character's career, along with an actual calendar that gives characters consistent aging.
>>40334 >Actually use the opening credits & title drop to establish a character visually in summation. Like what they did with the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies? Actually, pulling those up and wathicng them now, something I noticed is that they accomplish three things: <Establish who the "important" characters are <Their motivations and interests <And foreshadowing about the film's plot and themes
>>40333 There are definitely times I think they don't need to do an "origin story," but they should at least touch on it, yes. Like I really wish MCU Spider-Man just acted like all five previous Spider-Man movies were kinda sorta canon. I'd have just done a cool comic-book panel style opening credits, like Spider-Man 2, and like how that movie used the credits to recap the previous movie, I'd do the same here but recap all five and just sort of act like they were the same continuity. Like he fought Lizard and Electro, basically. Because nobody wants to see Spider-Man's fucking origin again. But also nobody wants a brand new character they aren't connected to with any stories at all. But they could have been like "those stories sort of happened, so you sort of have that connection. But don't get hung up on details." The 2008 Hulk movie sort of did this just by having him be in the jungle, like the end of the 2003 movie. Meanwhile the intro changed a bit by briefly showing an origin that recalled the tv show. I thought that was very effective. It's like "look, this sort of continues from the last movie, but don't get hung up on details. And remember that extremely popular TV show? Here's some of that, so some of the care people have for that show can carry over here, too." All that said, I find it very hard to believe that a Superman movie won't at least establish that his planet blew up so he was raised by farmers. At the very least, that's so simple they have to do that. Will anything else be good? Well I'm not sure about that. >>40335 The DCAU is the closest you're going to get. It at least shows all the main beats of Batman's whole life. Batman Beyond and the future episodes of JLU sort of imply endings and futures for other characters. Who has kids with who and stuff like that. The Nolan Batman movies do it, too. But I suppose that's just a movie trilogy and not the same as an autistic shared universe. The X-Men movies have so many entries that it becomes pretty autistic and you see effectively Wolverine's whole life. Too bad the last few movies sucked, but Wolverine isn't in them (and neither is anyone else anyone cares about) so you can ignore them. But then Professor X was in Doctor Strange even though it made no sense (I guess it's a totally different Professor X who just has the same actor). And now Wolverine is in yet another movie just to ruin the good ending he had before.
>>40337 I am very pessimistic overall when it comes to storytelling in comics and movies. I'm okay with it.
>>40335 >I'd love a story of the DCU that has permanent endings for characters. AFAIK, there's only TWO DC related series that do this (Giving a definitive ending): The Nolan trilogy and the DCAU. I actually refer to the Nolan films as the "good ending" for Bruce as it actually shows him moving on and actually having a life. Meanwhile the DCAU is the "Bad ending" as he becomes a bitter old man who's alienated all of his friends for "The cause", until Terry shows up and Bruce begins to remember that there is light in the world (In some ways, despite how often people treat it as complete bullshit, "Epilogue" only reinforces this). >>40337 >The X-Men movies have so many entries that it becomes pretty autistic and you see effectively Wolverine's whole life. Too bad the last few movies sucked, but Wolverine isn't in them (and neither is anyone else anyone cares about) so you can ignore them. But then Professor X was in Doctor Strange even though it made no sense (I guess it's a totally different Professor X who just has the same actor). And now Wolverine is in yet another movie just to ruin the good ending he had before. The "best" ending for the X-Men movies is The Wolverine. Despite the fact that the post-credits scene sets up DOFP, it basically completes the "story arc" for Logan. Where he starts are a "nobody" in the first X-Men movie, has several movies were both his friends and enemies are all hurt or die by his hand (Even indirectly), and deals with him having to ultimately decide if the sweet release of death really worth it or does his presence in the world actually improve the lives of others.
>>40336 Essentially. Another way I envisioned would be a pan across in universe pictures, newspapers, & collections of various items establishing what a character does & their basic history. You get to see their proudest moments, trophies, & what they value most.
>>40335 You can look up stuff about Earth-Two, which is the original DCU from the '30s and '40s. Batman, the original Batman, died in the early '80s. Catwoman died shortly before, and Robin and Huntress died a few years later. The entire Batman of Earth-Two story, with all its characters, gets pretty well wrapped up. Wonder Woman and Superman died later. Superman's whole cast of characters also got somewhat well wrapped up. Wonder Woman got into some more complicated stuff, where she had a daughter who continued living in the New Earth created in the '80s, but uh... Well Superman and Batman died and you can just consider their stories fully over, with no major hanging threads. A lot of the C-list guys have died and stayed dead over the years, too. But a lot of the B-listers, like Flash, Green Lantern, and Hawkman, are still alive. When was the last time the original Doctor Fate was alive? I know Kent Nelson died in the '80s or '90s and was a spirit for a while who only sometimes interacted with later Doctor Fates, but did he end up coming back to life ever? I just expect that he did. The original Supergirl died so hard she got erased from history and nobody knew she ever existed. She later appeared as a ghost one time (maybe twice, I forget), teaching a lesson that it doesn't matter if people know you did something good, because the important thing is that you did it. But anyway you can read all of the original Supergirl's stories and get an ending. She never came back. After that ghost story they did say she could finally be reincarnated, and a new Supergirl with her name appeared, but for all intents and purposes, she's a brand new person with a brand new history. It's not like she or anyone else remembers the old Supergirl. You can read every Superman story in order, and while it technically continues after The Crisis on Infinite Earths, they did do an ending at that point. It was non-canon, which was acknowledged in the foreword. "This is an imaginary story. Aren't they all?" Anyway, Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow is a great ending. The idea of The Dark Knight Returns is basically "what if we took Batman, pretended he was as old as he would be if he aged in real time, and then skipped the years between now and then and showed what he's up to?" So you can read all the Batman comics to that point and then skip to The Dark Knight Returns. Immediately after, the same writer, Frank Miller, did Batman: Year One, which was canon to the DCU but also intended to be the origin of Dark Knight Returns Batman. He eventually did other sequels, but also All-Star Batman & Robin The Boy Wonder, which takes place between Year One and Dark Knight Returns. So if you want to only read the things that are explicitly canon to this Batman, you can read Dark Knight Returns, Year One, Dark Knight Strikes Again, All-Star Batman, and then the other sequels Miller did later. Now, I won't vouch for the quality of those sequels, but they're there. It's also notable that Dark Knight Returns mentioned Jason Todd being killed in what would be our present. This then happened a couple years later in the mainstream comics, so there was a good while there where you could consider everything to be leading up to Dark Knight Returns. Eventually, though, modern Batman stories started using elements from Dark Knight Returns, like Carrie Kelly, and the Mutants, but they weren't the same. It was like an alternate timeline. Batman isn't old yet though because of time shenanigans and things like Lazarus Pits. So there's a point where the DCU diverges significantly from Dark Knight Returns, but there is a point before then where you can consider DKR to be the future of main Batman, if you want. And if you don't, All-Star Batman fills in that gap. Jonah Hex, being a character who exists in the past, has stories that take place all across his lifetime, and even after his lifetime, dealing with what happened to his corpse after he died. And yes there are some incidents of time travel and other times he gets involved with the DCU, but mostly he does cowboy stuff, and the rare times he does other stuff are cool because they're rare. Also it's cool that he's pretty much wholly unaffected by changes in history. Everything he does is canon. He's not the type of guy to wax on about his history much, but sometimes that's the reference. Like when a time traveller shows up, he probably won't be surprised, since it isn't the first time. Anyway you can read every Hex story, and pretty much follow his whole life. But since he's a historical character, they weren't all released in chronological order. "The Life Story of The Flash" is a graphic novel that is what it says on the tin. After Barry Allen died, and his wife Iris was living in the 30th century, where she could talk about his private life without fear of supervillains (even though she should be fucking careful given that his arch-nemesis who fucking killed her a few years earlier was a time traveller from the 25th century). She was a journalist, so she wrote her husband's biography. The book exists in-universe, but DC also published it in real life, and you can read it, and it's good. Now yes, Barry came back to life like 15 years later, but this story works on its own either way. The Ultimate Marvel universe (I know you said DC, but close enough) pretty much has a beginning, middle, and end. The end wasn't very good, but it's there. "Marvels" is a graphic novel which basically looks back at the history of the Marvel universe up to that point (the '90s) through the eyes of a regular guy, telling it like one story. It's excellent. I've heard X-Men: Grand Design does something a bit similar to Marvels but later. I never read that though so I don't know how good it is. Also Marvels is partially awesome because of Alex Ross's art, and X-Men: Grand Design doesn't have that.
>>40339 >DCAU Batman ending The live action CW Crisis on Infinite Earths has Kevin Conroy playing an old Bruce Wayne, so it's essentially Batman Beyond. They don't say it's officially him, but it's the same actor playing the same character, in live action for the first time, and as an old man, which is how we last saw him. Only now he's evil so that their terrible Batwoman show can make a point about feminism. The same crossover also brings back Christopher Reeve Superman, now played by Brandon Routh, like he was in Superman Returns (which is an alternate sequel to Superman II). The crossover says that after Superman Returns, The Joker killed Lois and a bunch of other people at the Daily Planet (presumably all of Clark's supporting characters), so it became like Kingdom Come. They also brought back Smallville Superman, who we only just saw begin (after ten fucking years). There were comics, but this invalidates them by having him fight a different Anti-Monitor. Anyway it reveals that he had two daughters so he gave up his powers AGAIN, even though he did that like ten fucking times in the show, and the entire arc and finale was him finally accepting his destiny. Oh yeah, it also has Burt Ward Robin and kills him unceremoniously along with his whole universe. I assume it gets brought back at the end, but still. There is also the Birds of Prey TV show which is sort of a sequel to the '80s and '90s Batman movies. Batman and Catwoman had a kid, then Catwoman got killed and Batman went missing, and now terrible versions of Huntress, Black Canary, and Oracle fight Harley Quinn and a couple other villains. I think Alfred was still alive. Idk. I'm not gonna watch that shit again. >The "best" ending for the X-Men movies is The Wolverine. I kind of like the idea that X-Men 3 was a "bad end" (which The Wolverine follows up on), but then Days of Future Past is about fixing it. A bit of a happy ending. What you say is nice and all, and I like it in that movie, but I don't mind the Days of Future Past ending either. Logan then totally fucks up that ending and has that be a bad ending again, but uh... the movie was still okay, I guess. I don't like how it was an early example of the trend of an old man action hero sacrificing himself for a little girl replacement, but it's a better example of the genre than most. (So many fucking movies do that now that I'm comfortable calling it a genre.)
>>40342 >The live action CW Crisis on Infinite Earths has Kevin Conroy playing an old Bruce Wayne Okay, and? I don't care. The DCAU ended back in 2006. Anything since is just some spiteful oldhags trying to revive a beloved property so that they can push their Mary Sue and show how much "better" she is than the character people have loved for the past 30 years. >Logan then totally fucks up that ending and has that be a bad ending again, but uh... the movie was still okay, I guess. I just found Logan to be absolute trash. Thinking back on it, I don't even understand what the real point of the movie was beyond seeing a couple old men who've long since seen their dreams, goals, and aspirations turned to dust and just agonizing over the question of why they're still here except as a cosmic joke. The movie opens with Logan wanting to die and the movie ends two hours later with...Logan dying. It's an absolutely silly concept that only a post-modernist would get his rocks off over. Sure he "saves" X23, but she's 10 years old and we never see any follow-up showing whether or not the week she spent with Logan actually left an impression on her or if she went back to being a wildchild. The only reason Logan exists is just to watch your favorite characters die. Not even die a "good death" and leaving some impact on the world, just dying off and being forgotten.
>>40343 >Anything since is just some spiteful oldhags Fair enough. But with the same logic you can ignore a lot of stupid later entries of a lot of things, but that's precisely what people can't do when they're complaining about characters not dying. A lot of times they do only to get brought back years later. If we can disregard things not made by later writers, then we can add a whole bunch more characters who got deaths and endings. Jason Todd, Norman Osborn. Hell, Jerry Seigel did a "Death of Superman" story in the '60s. It was an imaginary story, but aren't they all? You could easily count that as the ending, and it's by the original writer and everything. >The movie opens with Logan wanting to die and the movie ends two hours later with...Logan dying. Yeah but he died for something, with hope for the future. >Sure he "saves" X23, but she's 10 years old and we never see any follow-up showing whether or not the week she spent with Logan actually left an impression on her or if she went back to being a wildchild. I think the story is pretty clear on what you're supposed to figure the answer to that question is. I can accept that just fine. All that said, I do still sort of agree with your assessment, on an emotional and metatextual level. I do totally get where you're coming from.
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So besides information on other Justice League heroes appearing, what came out about the film was a supposed leak about the villain. That being a totally not Bizarro clone of Superman named after Ultraman. The evil Superman from Earth 3, traditionally. James Gunn dismissed these rumors as nonsense. Well look at these set photos. Gee I wonder who this masked guy with a giant 'U' on his chest could be.
>>40346 How many FUCKING times are they going to be doing the "Evil Superman" and/or multiverse storyline?
>>40346 If that is Ultraman, that costume is fucking awful. Even if he's actually Bizarro and they call him Ultraman, that costume is fucking awful. And why call Bizarro Ultraman? I could easier believe it's just simple Ultraman, but why does the army work for him? Did Superman go to Earth-Three? And maybe the mask is for some sort of "dramatic reveal" when you find out that he's a doppelganger of Superman. I could see Gunn just saying that it isn't Bizarro named Ultraman if it's just plain Ultraman (in a shitty costume). And what would the woman next to him be? Superwoman? That would mean she'd be the same actress that plays either Lois or Wonder Woman. I don't know what's going on, but I know I don't like it.
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>>40348 It could be a Doomsday thing. So it's 3 ways of stupid.
>>40349 Yeah the costume did remind me of Doomsday, but the U doesn't make any sense there, and the guy is way too small to be any sort of Doomsday, unless they're doing some gay-ass Smallville Davis Bloome thing. But no matter how pessimistic I am, I still don't believe they would do something that stupid. Now, they could be doing the thing where Doomsday was imprisoned by Kryptonians. I could believe those are Kryptonian costumes. But what Kryptonian character would that be? Especially with a U? Ursa? Female. Jax-Ur? Nobody cares about him. Or maybe it's just not a U at all. But I don't think they would do Kryptonian villains since Man of Steel did Zod and they probably don't want to repeat that movie.
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>>40350 A Doomsday containment suit for a not Bizarro clone Superman called Ultraman. That's my assumption now. Oh anon. Hollywood is incredibly creatively bankrupt. Just the fact it's another Superman adaptation for another shared DC universe is derivative. Hell they're reusing nigger Perry White.
>>40350 >But no matter how pessimistic I am, I still don't believe they would do something that stupid. How about they go for the trifecta of bullshit? Where it IS Ultraman being a clone of Clark, but he's a faulty clone and we watch as he slowly degrades into Bizarro. And the villain tries to fix this, but ends up turning Bizarro into Doomsday.
>>40352 >How about they go for the trifecta of bullshit? Where it IS Ultraman being a clone of Clark, but he's a faulty clone and we watch as he slowly degrades into Bizarro. And the villain tries to fix this, but ends up turning Bizarro into Doomsday. Dear God. I think you've cracked the code.
>>39865 Are we sure he isn’t just lying about liking superman?
New Ultimate Peter is still doing fine
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>>40355 He definitely said that just to NOT get excluded from cool boys club, however redditors have selective memory and shit on him for his double-standard.
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>Batman: Caped Crusader Trailer https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=AdzSiO-7LyM >niggers and womyn in the 40's >mimics Kevin Conroy voice at the cost of emoting >prosecuted both by police and criminals like Spiderman I was expecting it to be shit, but I hoped for the lulz kind of worthy shit, this look like borefest. The only good thing I can say about this, it that Harley Quinn finally getting good redesign. Although She is more detailed and less simple and iconic, I do like that she now shares color scheme (hopefully) with the Joker, thus looking more like a sidekick .
>>40422 You couldn't even be asked to link the damn thing? <Prime So HBO Max is dead. <Hispanic/nigger batgirl They are really trying to push her. WHY? >I was expecting it to be shit, but I hoped for the lulz kind of worthy shit, this look like borefest. It looks too much like it's trying to be a remake of BTAS, but for "mature" audiences as we already see someone graphically being burned to death. So expect to hear a lot of "Fucks" and see a lot of blood in the final product. >Harley Quinn finally getting good redesign. I disagree, the "bumblebee" color scheme looks awful, on top of how it looks like like she's thrown on several dozen pounds.
>>40422 Why can't they just do something like have Harley Quinn "retire" as a ringmaster and form a circus-themed group of super beings while having her Harlequinn-based successor similar to Bruce Wayne in Batman Beyond? She'd stand out on her own while showing she's moved on from the joker without being an obnoxious Deadpool wannabe.
>>40425 Because DC wants to have their wisecracking Deadpool type, but forget Plastic Man exists or else thinks he's too goofy because they also want to funny random violence aspect of Deadpool too.
>>40425 Because Harley really doesn't exist nor work as a character without the Joker. Every single version of her origin story is her being desperate for attention and wanting to be a high-profile shrink, and the Joker managing to twist that desire to where she'll burn the world down for people not realizing her genius and to receive his "love". It's also why she doesn't work as a Deadpool counterpart because Deadpool is just a merc who lost it after being tortured beyond belief, meanwhile her "tragic backstory" is just being taken advantage of by a criminal mastermind. Even having her hooking up with Poison Ivy doesn't really solve this problem as it's just her running to another villain who "understands" her when "Mr. J" isn't around. If they actually wanted to develop Harley and treat her as a proper character with goals and ambitions rather than the writer's self-insert, then they need to actually have her confront the reality of what she's doing and questioning if this is really what she wants. Once you begin to address that, you notice that she really doesn't work as a snarky anti-hero because her "hidden desire" (And why the Joker originally took advantage of her) has absolutely NOTHING to do with that. The closest you could possibly come with a "Good Harley" is her stringing someone along before she pulls the rug, but that's just typical seductress-style behavior. She was just a girl who wanted attention, and found it with the WRONG individual. Ironically, the Harley/Ivy shipping actually works to the characters' benefit if they were to go down this path and actually make their relationship FUCKING WORK because you have Ivy being the more confrontational, emotional, and activist character and Harley being the reasonable character who tries to cool her down so that they both don't end up in jail or Arkham. Even if they wanted to keep the costumes or Harley's "zany" personality, just be silly about the entire thing and turn it into a gag comic where they bumble into situations where they end up saving the day...somehow. But, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!' No one is ever going to do something fun like that. I mean, who would actually be interested in reading a story about two contrasting friends playing off of one another.
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>>40426 Speaking of.
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On the topic of Harley and Joker, I hear Suicide Squad Isekai came out (with an English Dub only in Australia for some reason similar to Disney's decades-late dub of Fireball). How is it?
>>40426 Plastic Man isn't a girl, he's a white guy. They aren't gonna push any more white guy superheroes. >>40428 You're missing the point, and the point is feminism. Ironically, her original backstory was already pushing a feminist narrative, of how women are only ever "bad" because men "take advantage of them" and make them that way. But when feminists got that, they were mad because it makes Harley, and by extension every woman that ever existed and ever will exist, look weak. Now, they aren't smart, or perhaps empathetic, enough to realize that weaknesses make characters interesting and likeable, and they also cannot stand a female character that deliberately isn't likeable, because that existing means that anyone who likes it hates all women. So you're left with a character that acts in a way that isn't likeable, but they try to act like she is likeable, which only creates massive dissonance and makes both the character and the story she is in very unlikeable. It results in a character that can't do anything interesting, including using her backstory effectively. It results in all the problems you pointed out. >tl;dr: Feminists don't see characters, especially female characters, as characters. They're representations of all females, particularly the female writing/speaking, because they're narcissists with no sense of empathy, and thus can't tell real stories.
>>40339 >Meanwhile the DCAU is the "Bad ending" as he becomes a bitter old man who's alienated all of his friends That was only true for BB series, ROTJ and Epilouge have retconned it; Bruce reconciles with both Barbara and Tim (of course Dick isn't shown in that movie for that very reason, because there's no way around in which Dick would forgive his asshole adoptive dad for fucking his girlfriend) and in Epilouge Amanda Waller went from hating Bruceshit's guts (as everyone should) to le suddenly becoming Bruce Timm' self-insert Batwanker who gave Bruceshit le clone-son. >how often people treat it as complete bullshit Because it is and that's an understatement for how godawful that episode was. >"Epilogue" only reinforces this See above >Bruce begins to remember that there is light in the world More like Bruce never pays for his selfish and terrible actions and choices, because Batwankers want their "complex tortured soul", aka autistic asshole, without the consequences. Although Bruce personality wasn't the most interesting in early BTAS (because Bruce has no life outside of capeshitting, in contrast to Peter Parker), he was still likeable and kind. But after the addition of Superman, they chose to turn him into insufferable asshole in order to extremely differentiate between them to the point of being contrast to each other. If they really wanted to go through that path of Bruce being piece of shit and pays for it, there shouldn't have been any reconciliation and the only biological offspring should've been an evil Damian, that could actually made for great and logical conclusion of the story. >>40424 ><Hispanic/nigger batgirl I didn't even notice that, I just focused on her nigger father. >They are really trying to push her. WHY? Because all ginger characters must be niggerwashed plus Bruce is too damn WASP for current year. I'm surprised DC haven't try to pull Miles Morales equivalent for Bruce yet, they could make an alternative for Terry/Beyond in which Bruce adopt some young George Floyd and being preached about his white privilege, lol. >It looks too much like it's trying to be a remake of BTAS Timm and Dini are helpless Batwankers and just can't let it go and of course executives would want to try and recreate that great success. When other DC characters are going to get high quality cartoon too? Especially my boy, Plas! >"bumblebee" color scheme It's dark green and yellow, usually not the best combo, but it works fine here. >she's thrown on several dozen pounds You're just too used to Timm's old skinny artstyle from TNBA, she does have quite small breasts though. >>40426 >but forget Plastic Man exists I'm so glad those dumb assholes lost the copyright on the OG comic! Besides the underrated JLA cartoon, everything else they done with him sucks. I hate how they turned him from smart, wholesome and child friendly superhero into a cussing retarded degenerate for man-children. The omission of Woozy sucks too, but it's even worse when he is paired with retarded Plas. >>40434 It's also worth noting that Plas has nearly infinite toyetic potential! I think it has less to do with him being white guy, than being fairly obscure, I mean DC has shown to be hesitant about niggerwashing their most iconic and popular characters, Batman and Superman, being the most WASP superheroes too. Sure, you could argue niggerwashed Batwomyn and faggot Superboy were attempts at it, but the fact is they haven't gone full Miles Morales of replacing Bruce and Kent yet.
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>>40429 >Emasculated male protag Totally unexpected!
>>40428 >her stringing someone along before she pulls the rug, but that's just typical seductress-style behavior Would a story where she picks up someone impressionable by pretending she's sick of the Joker (or some other reason), leads them along to "reforming" her while actually they become noticeably worse themselves as they have to deal with/grow to idolize and enable her, and suffers the effects of the rug inevitably being pulled out from under them by a jealous Joker who's sick of the game or herself after she accomplishes her goal work? Their villain name could be Auguste or Augustine, taken after a type of clown which has little self-respect and ultimately plays a foolish, servile role to other clowns, especially whitefaces, as they're tricked by them for the enjoyment of others. To further the symbolism and the character's progression, they could start as a normal person, transition to a European Auguste, then finish as an Auguste. European Augustes take the already barebones makeup and uniform of the Auguste and tone it down further, putting on only enough makeup to make their natural look foolish, rather than play a character, and completely forgoing the presence of a wig or nose. Their arc might end with them going catatonic after learning the Joker's real identity, to tie it in with the overarching Jokerwank DC loves so much, or dying/falling comatose after trying and failing to kill the Joker, who they recognized as the source of Harley's problems but didn't have the guts to seriously go after until the rug pull. If male, a potential pitfall with this character would be making them the canon grandfather of the Dee Dees, though a panel from 2019 for Beyond's anniversary has a semi-sarcastic comment that their grandfather is Dick. From here, the story would progress to her falling onto Ivy as a safety net but recognizing that she now has to act with some maturity with her friend/lover because she'll inevitably go back to Joker if anything happens to her. The story would ultimately make her realize that how she made them was how she was made, so what happened to them could happen, and has happened, to her at any time, and that she needs to address her serious attention issues or else she'll end up being thrown away. The arc would end with her maintaining her status as a villain but soft-retiring into the concept proposed in >>40425, gathering some of her friends from the Suicide Squad and becoming Ringmaster. This would open room for more Joker and Batman stories as Joker has to deal with the absence of a righthand woman/punching bag, and Batman has to deal with a new supercriminal organization that's not based on ego and scheming like the Legion. The other Sirens would be de facto members of her organization, occasionally cooperating but not obtaining full membership because their past relationships with Harley have made them unable to recognize her as a leader.
>>40434 >Plastic Man isn't a girl, he's a white guy. They aren't gonna push any more white guy superheroes. Just make him gay. I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t already a widespread headcanon based solely on how his costume.
>>40435 I think you're missing the point of a lot of Batman Beyond, including Epilogue. Epilogue doesn't even change much. Terry was already essentially a bittersweet ending for Bruce. Bruce alienated everybody and lived much of his life sad and alone, and Terry was the one bright bit that he found at the end. Epilogue didn't alter that. I also think you're being silly to act as if it was after Superman that they made Batman start acting like a dick. That's largely from Batman Beyond, not The New Batman Adventures. Nightwing has a chip on his shoulder in The New Batman Adventures because that's what Nightwing does. It's why Robin becomes Nightwing. Bruce fucks Barbara because Bruce Timm seems like an obsessed shipper who just fucking loves that idea for some reason, and it's only in Batman Beyond that any attention is drawn to it being fucked up, and it's only through Barb acting like a victim, and not through pointing out that Bruce basically cucked his own son. The show, all the shows, never acknowledge that that was fucked up, because Bruce Timm doesn't seem to think it is. Note how fucked up it was again in The Killing Joke movie, where Barbara straight up rapes Bruce on screen and the movie acts like it's fine. Also, Damian Wayne essentially didn't exist when Epilogue came out, or even when Justice League Unlimited ended (so thus essentially when the DCAU ended). Now technically you could argue he existed in Son of the Demon and Kingdom Come, but that's essentially in loose concept only, and it's not at all the same as the Robin we were introduced to post-Infinite Crisis. >When other DC characters are going to get high quality cartoon too? Especially my boy, Plas! I also think you're silly to blame Timm and Dini for this. I do think Batman is clearly their favorite. (Well, Dini clearly has a think for Zatanna...) But Batman is also the best selling by far, and has been for a very long time now. He's essentially been far and away their most successful character since the '80s, when those Superman movies fizzled out. I love the B and C listers, like Plastic Man, but not only is he more of a "risk" since he's a less well known property, but if they're going to push anything that's not Batman, it's core Justice League so they can try to get some of that MCU Avengers money (even though they fucked up for over ten years with that and missed their chance), and then it's gonna be SJW shit, AKA not any white guys, AKA not Plastic Man or Booster Gold or Ted Kord or any of the other C listers that all the fans know are actually awesome. >they haven't gone full Miles Morales of replacing Bruce and Kent yet. As you mentioned, that's because those are not just two of their biggest characters, but two of the biggest characters of all time. Superman hasn't been a top favorite of casuals for decades now, but he's legitimately iconic, and while they do try to toe the line, his sheer cultural impact, beyond even Batman (who has been way more popular for a long time) gives him some protection. Not enough to stop his son from getting molested and turned gay, not enough to stop a retcon from saying that Superman got buttraped by some russian general back in the '60s, not enough to stop JJ Abrams from making a movie about a black Superman from an alternate universe where the real Superman turned evil. But just enough to stop mainstream DCU Kal-El from being made gay or black or evil. For now. And Batman sells gangbusters no matter what, so that affords him more protection. But not Batgirl. Not Tim Drake. Not Batwoman. So no, I do think it has much to do with Plastic Man being a white guy. Other C-Listers get chances if they're not white guys. But they're not gonna give a white guy C-lister a chance. Especially if he's not typically seen as part of DC's version of the Avengers, which is the only reason they've been trying to do anything with The Flash, and Aquaman, for that matter. >>40439 Don't even joke about it. They're gonna do it the instant they remember he exists.
>>40435 Your speech-patterns are so recognisable that we might as well call you batwanker.
>>40431 >How is it? Having watched the first two episodes from Loleron's stream, I have to relay the bad news that the show actually does NOT suck ass. At least not yet. Something you need to understand if you don't regularly watch anime is that in order for an anime series to actually be downright terrible, it needs to inhabit a special level of quality that I have not seen Western animation ever come close to encompassing. To cover what are some of the worst anime series I have watched: >Rage of Bahamut: Virgin Soul This series inhabits a special level of Hell because what made this show downright terrible was the abysmal ending that resolved FUCKING NOTHING after 26 episodes on top of no one ever paying for their actions when you sit back and think about the setup of the series. >Super Dimension Century Orguss This show is terrible on account of the fact that the protagonist is just a straight-up asshole. Not a funny asshole, or even a smug asshole, just a complete and utter ass to anyone and everyone around him. And even all the other characters in the show included his best friend, his robot loli servent, and even his own fucking daughter outright call out the fact that he is such an unlikable asshole. >Martian Successor Nadesico There show is a ringer as it manages to combine both the problems of Orguss (Asshole main characters) with the problems of Virgin Soul (Bullshit ending), and adds in a healthy dose of tone deafness as the show already begins early on with treating mass genocide as a complete joke. Did I mention the ending literally has the writer telling viewers to stop whining because it's a stupid TV show? >Genesis of Aquarion This is another special series, but for two reasons. First, there's the problem that the shows quality just gets worse and worse with literally every episode to where I could not be asked to complete it and dropped the entire thing midway through episode 19. Second, the writing is abysmal. Literally NONE of the characters have a functioning brain, and the entire plot is about how gay angels want to destroy humanity because some girl's pussy turned one of their kind straight (I WISH I was making that shit up). Gundou Musashi <Fourth webm A series that's LEGENDARY. It is a unironic and literally a certified fact that you ONLY ever see Japanese people watching this show for the purposes of being "ironic". It's THAT bad. I went in expecting it to be exaggerated, but I was not prepared for how shit an anime can be. These are not the only series that I walked away being dissatisfied with, but these are the worst of the worst and it should give an idea of what level Isekai Suicide Squad needs to reach in order for it to be considered a "terrible anime". Thus far, it has the makings of being a boring or underwhelming series, with the biggest criticism I can make so far being leveled at the fight between Harley and Katana (Along with Waller already being setup as a psychopathic cunt), but I'm going to have to wait and see if it gets better or worse.


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