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Meta discussion thread Anonymous 05/26/2024 (Sun) 04:42:20 No. 516
Let's put our heads together! If there's overwhelming community support for making a change to the rules, we can probably change them. Discuss board policy. Do we want to require lolishota, and other extreme kinks like shitties, be spoilered? Banned? Personally, I'm fucking sick and tired of this slippery slope occurring across the internet and I'm on f-list because it's the last real place where this kind of oversensitivity hasn't completely destroyed the scene, but I'm open to the thought of requiring spoilers for things as long as we can decide exactly what requires spoilers and make a commitment that it won't slip'n'slide into banning types of content. A big concern of mine is: >what, you make us spoiler loli, but not shitties?! >you make us spoiler shitties, but not BBC?! >you make us spoiler BBC, but not my 10 posts of bloated objects with pussies? >Ew, I don't want to see FATTIES >Well, I don't want to see males! So, any spoilered content list would have to have a concise line drawn, I feel like.
If you can post it on Twitter, it doesn't need to be censored. Period. Censorship in all forms is bullshit.
>>516 Underage stuff is actually illegal in several countries and questionable in the US. I don't think spoilering is effective, and for people who are into that, it's probably just annoying. Especially if there's zero way to tell what's actually spoilered and what's just somebody trolling. I'd just restrict it entirely, or to specific threads dedicated to the topic.
No censorship or spoilering at all of course. Lolis, shota, shit, piss, vomit, unholy monsters, masc blues, let them be posted freely. Not restrict them because it's not some people's fetish and they don't want to see it :(
>>523 I will probably stop using the board if it's restricted wholesale, but actually, letting it be a "put it in it's own thread" thing sounds like a good use of the board and a reasonable compromise. What do other people think of this?
>>525 This also kind of solves the problem of it tending to dominate discussions and bully other fetishes out of the tred.
>>525 I think spoilering it or keeping it to it's own thread is fine. I don't want to restrict anything here, but I also don't want anyone facing legal trouble for scrolling past cunny images. Scat I think needs to be spoilered as well.
>>526 Extreme fetishes will always push more mild stuff off the thread because most people don't want to scroll through a bunch of extreme stuff just to use the thread.
>>525 We don't have enough people here to start splitting threads quite yet, so it's going to hurt more than help. The whole "scrolling past cunny images" isn't really a good defense because 1) who looks at this in public anyway and 2) your browser already fetched it.
>>527 Yeah, could get into legal trouble for posting shit!
>>529 I think the idea is moreso that it protects people from getting caught more than in a fucking court case, which is really the reason why anybody gets in trouble for it anyways - not that they actually consumed the content, but literally just that they showed it or were publically retards about it. I think spoilering it helps keep it from driving other people off though, yeah - I'd really hate for jurang to be able to just objectpost wildly or our shittiesspammer to toe the line with "a reasonable amount" of unspoilered scat "now and then".
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>>527 I don't think it's a really fair comparison to compare something that's illegal and might (Very unlikely) get somebody in legal trouble versus just being unpleasant. But, I hate scat. So, I wouldn't really care.
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>>523 >"questionable in the US" >>533 >"illegal" Don't be intentionally misleading.
>>531 So then the question is how do we alert someone WHAT is under the spoiler tag? That would be obnoxious and tedious. What if they want to see the poodoo but they're living in a dystopian post-Brexit world where they can't get their loli drip? Do cunnyposters have to flag their posts every time with a warning? Do the foreigners get in trouble for following Japanese cunny artists on Twitter? Just don't censor anything. Censorship is awful.
>>533 It's not about the legal comparison, scat is obviously very legal almost anywhere. It's just something that people who aren't into it tend to be viscerally turned off by. I will tell you as BO though, NOTHING that is not illegal in the US is banned here. Whether or not I personally like it.
>>534 Now do Europe.
I'm indifferent to lolishit, and I don't care too much about other kinks in general. That said, my personal rule of thumb has been to treat this board as if it's still on /trash/. That's just me though, and it's obviously not a perfect solution. I just figure that proper moderation is the main draw of the 8chan board. It would be cool if everyone could post whatever, but, as far as I'm concerned, the ability to ban schizocucky is what's really important.
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>>537 Sure thing boss
>>538 It is, that's the main reason I made this. The spam is just too much on 4chan trash. Let me reiterate that I have no intention of banning anythinf that is not against US law. My only concern with certain extreme fetishes is that they viscerally upset some people and may land some people in legal trouble as well, so I'm debating limiting them to related threads or requiring them to be spoilered. Which again is the purpose of this meta thread discussion.
>>538 We already got him and he hasn't come back yet, by the way. Can't even ban evade after all, it seems. He has to watch us all having fun - every hotel room has schizofaggot's chair. (Yes I actually banned him I didn't just delete his posts)
>>539 That's a lot of green anon...
>>544 But surprisingly, not a lot across E*rope!
>>539 >can rape and forcefully marry actual minors freely in africa/arab lands but somehow lolicon is illegal
>>546 It just makes sense when you're brown.
Well, I ain't gonna use a board that's full of CP. I use /trash/ because it has specific rules, throwing those all out rather than just keeping status quo is not something I'm interested in.
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I'm pro loli but If people have such a problem with it then spoilering images with it and any other extreme fetishes like bathroom kinks or gore or whatever for politeness sake would be the best compromise.
>>548 How do you feel about spoilering it, anon?
>>539 This map is wrong. Shotacon/lolicon is legal in Moldova (although the legal phrase is "fictional children erotica" or "fictional CP"). That's the reason why 8moe servers are located there. >>546 Yeah, those laws are a joke, don't take them too seriously. It's like piracy, if you see what I mean. >>542 >Let me reiterate that I have no intention of banning anythinf that is not against US law. I suggest you to check the global ruling and the extended compendium of edge cases if you want to know more about this https://8chan.se/.static/pages/globalRules.html >>>/site/4481 But in broad terms basically no CP, not pictures of children on porn boards and no illegal shit (sell drugs, etc.). In regards of the fetishes situation, It really depends on you, the general rule on porn boards is to spoiler anything too strong, that is to say, scat, vore, etc. But lolicon/shotacon doesn't really fall there, at least for most 8moe users it's not needed. You could have designated loli/shota threads and encourage your users to post on the loli/shota boards if you think that would bother too much your anons. This place has very good hiding/filtering tools. I also suggest you to jump on other boards and ask them to add your board to their announcement page, for instance >>>/delicious/ has picrel which is basically a small inner webring with other similar boards, this encourage crossposting and activity. Congratulation for gathering so much activity in such a short period of time, I hope you can keep growing up in the future and have a healthy anon community here.
>>550 Well when that was asked of people in the thread, they immediately started spoilering everything and at random, which sort of defeats the purpose of an image board really.
The content I think should be outright banned is actual childporn, and realistic AI CP mostly because it's the same shit but with extra steps and it can be difficult to differentiate between AI and real at times. I like snuffies and shitties and will probably post about it occasionally, but am I A-Ok with being needed to spoiler it. A content warning for shocking material isn't censorship imho.
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Just wanted to give you guys the official welcome. Loli et. al are legal in every jurisdiction of the site. Whether they are in your own home countries is another matter, but we can't control that. Otherwise It seems like you have a good grasp on the site already and what we're about. Follow global rules, and the BO is otherwise free to run this place however he sees fit, and we'll go to bat for your community to the best of our ability in the event of any kind of trouble. If you have any questions or want to request features or report bugs or any such thing please check out the big sticky meta thread at the top of >>>/site/ Welcome to 8chan!
Edited last time by Acidadmin on 05/26/2024 (Sun) 06:11:18.
>>556 That's already against the global rules and nobody should be posting it. The first line, I mean.
>>558 I know, just wanted to state my stance.
>>557 Holy shit it's Root, the alternate, evil RAPIST-universe version of Moot!
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>>561 Hey, moot always said he wanted to be the little girl. Just so you guys know how it works, 8chan has three full-rank administrators. There's me, the Asukafag talkative public face and server/network nerd. Then there's Codexx, the Lainfag and the site's chief software guy who also runs the streaming site. And finally Parias, who tard-wrangles BOs and global moderation for us and never posts his waifu. By spreading out the load and bills three ways we get a lot more done, there's way less risk of any of us going insane, and if an admin calls it quits there's two more to take over so the site stays up. Its how we've lasted for four years and made speedbumps out of problems that killed so many other alt-chans since the glory days of OG 8chan. Anyway ERP isn't really my personal thing, but I watch the site's frontpage when I'm lurking so I'll see you guys around. Hit us up anytime if you need anything. It seems you've dealt with a pretty aggressive spammer fucking with you, but we have a lot of experience with that, so feel free to get comfy.
>>568 Hey, BO here. It's great to know you're keeping an eye on the board. The spammer is the entire reason for our move here; He's been going on rampages in the thread at will for over a year and admins refuse to do anything about it on 4chan, so I started this board. I hope it stays up and thanks for the welcome!
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>>574 If he shows up please read, understand, and share this information: >>>/site/4555 >>>/site/8186 We've dealt with some very dedicated and technically adept spammers in the past, and these are the two most public tools that we've worked up for dealing with them. There are others besides these, but those links are the main two that you will see pulled out on the regular in addition to aggressive hotpocketing. You're welcome to add as many mods from your community as you think you need (and I would advise adding at least 3-4 soon before gayopping faggots show up and you have to worry about saboteurs), but if you ever get overwhelmed then Global mods will step up to help.
Edited last time by Acidadmin on 05/26/2024 (Sun) 06:47:30.
>>577 I appreciate it, again! We have a few hands on deck already, but I'll never say no to more help. Our schizo tried showing his face earlier today and got bitchslapped and hasn't shown up since, so he's either waiting for a moderation gap or knows he's not going to be allowed to turn this into his personal playground. While it would be nice to believe it's the latter, I'm betting on the former.
Welcome to 8moe, /erp/. You should get acquainted with the other NSFW boards like /tkr/, /delicious/, /vore1/, /abdl/, /bleached/, etc. We are hosting games between 8moe boards at /icup/ >>>/icup/5921 Your board could get represented to play with the other boards. (We might play Soulcalibur VI again).
>>594 I voted for wrestling
Bah. Personally I don't care what happens in other threads and boards I just wish there was an option to autospoiler all images like in 4chan.
>>596 Autospoiler? Like spoiler all your images or spoiller everybody else's images? in either case, that's doable with the built in custom CSS/JS tools, today I have a lot of free time, let me see what I can cook up with.
>>594 I'll make a thread about this, thanks!
Should we spoiler cockborties, stinky smeggies, fart fetish, hyper muscle, and hyper fat?
>>668 I argue against spoiling anything because we're already arguing at the top of the slippery slope.
>>668 I say no to spoilering. Although I'm biased since there's some relatively common stuff that triggers me so I'm used to scrolling past shit I don't like.
>>671 This is where I'm at myself, I just know there was a lot of people complaining about extreme content being allowed on this board and I could go either way as spoilering just doesn't feel like a big deal to me at all.
>>672 Yeah I understand that. Spoilering something doesn't mean much but I'd put it as a guideline then instead of a rule if you were going to do it. Force the jannies to clean up the mess so that there isn't friction with making the post in the first place.
>>596 Me again. I wrote a simple CSS solution for you: >This code blocks every image posted in the board .imgLink img, .latestImageCell img, .mediaCell img, .catalogCell img { display: none; } >This one turns the thumbnail into your board's spoiler image. It basically spoilers every image, if you click it you'll be able to see the full image .imgLink img:first-child{ content: url("/erp/custom.spoiler"); height: 200px; width: 164px; } If you want to use either of this codes just click on the Settings button on the navar, then CSS, then copy and paste the code there and Save. I'm dumb as fuck with CSS so make me know if you notice any unexpected behavior.
>>668 Cockbortion is a form of hardcore snuff and it's used in a very edgy manner. I unironically don't care about the rest of what you mentioned but I am bothered by noncon fetus death. >>670 >>671 Maybe you are used to it because you're from a different board culture where being exposed to bodily and grotesque content has desensitized you, but that doesn't mean that others should have to look at extreme content too. It isn't a slippery slope if we can agree guro and scat need spoilers. Don't care about lolishota or being smelly, hairy, or muscley. Blood, death/dead bodies, puke, pus, scat, wounds, etc. are most people no's anyhow. Also, spoilers don't remove content. Your post is still there. Getting offended about having your post spoilered as though it's been deleted is irrational. >>675 Worksafe mode activated
>>677 I should clarify, blood as in excessive amounts like torture guro, not just a nosebleed, a cut, or just blood splashed on clothes or the ground.
>>677 Ah yes, all those people on this board which aren't from /flg/
>>680 I know people are using this board as a bunker and don't care/just want this to be /flg/ 2.0. Yellow boards usually don't have spoilers and /trash/ certainly doesn't. Boards that do have spoilers can implement them and I think this is a courteous way to use them. I do expect more people outside of /flg/ to visit as our board grows.
I'll point out that if you're a SFW board, global rules do require that NSFW content (porn, guro, etc) be spoilered.
>>704 Yes and I'd add that making a board either SFW or NSFW is completely up to the board owner, and if they want to change it they have to make and post on >>>/site/ contacting Codexx, who is the guy that handles that kind of stuff.
>>516 If it's possibly niche shit like loli, shota, scat, guro, etc. just force it to be spoilered. People who take exception to that can fuck off. You're not here to be catered to and nobody has to adjust to your personal feelings.
>>574 In fact, trying to report the spammer has resulted in actual bans for the people reporting him. Sasuga 4cuck jannies.
>>1480 Ironic post
>>1483 You are free to explain but I doubt it'll lead to anything worthwhile.
>>1484 >YOU are not here to be catered to and nobody has to adjust to YOUR personal feelings >but fucking force spoiler all the niche shit *I* don't like
>>1486 I like loli and shota shit, though. I'm not saying it out of wanting my feelings catered to, but to go some way towards meeting the complainers. I am simply against outright removal/banning of stuff because "wah wah i dont like it".
What's the number we're capping threads at for new threads? It feels like #3 got posted super early. 500-800ish posts feels like a solid thread post count though, especially if drama complaints stay in here instead of eating up the post count.
>>1607 Threads have a little anchor next to them when they're bump locked. It happens at 500 I think.
>>1611 it doesn't really matter much though since the board is overall slow and small
>>1607 >>1611 >>1614 I set it to 500, but that's open to change. As anon said it doesn't really matter right now since we're very small and will probably be that way for the forseeable future.
>>1611 Growing stronger tho.
Hey how come "-ita" is a filtered word? I hope this is the right place for newfag questions...
Can we please establish rules for /erp/ that the purpose of the board is for erotic roleplay and not /soc/ tier personal ads? We've got our first whatsapp scammer thread lmao.
>>1733 There's no need for a rule like that. It was spam and I deleted it for being spam. You really think ranjeet danjeet panjeet is going to read or follow our rules regardless?
Edited last time by DoK on 05/29/2024 (Wed) 20:37:09.
>>1734 Pajeets never stop. But they will be banned. One and all.
>>1690 Some words are filtered because they are used by bad actors to try to de-platform 8chan. More information here >>>/site/4484
>>1734 Hey, works for me. And thanks.
>>1743 Huh. I wish there was a more comprehensive list. I'm guessing the specific j-fashion will just have to be called j-fashion.
>>1487 I don't think anyone is saying it should be banned because people don't like it but instead reasons such as: >It's illegal in my country and >It's banned in the other place, and so we should just keep the status quo.
>>2078 >t's illegal in my country when has this ever been a reason to get rid of something?
>>2079 Well, that's why 4chan did it. So... Then.
>>2081 I don't think it's because it was illegal in specific users' countries. Half a dozen things would have to get banned by that metric.
>>2082 It could be articulated to be illegal in most countries, anon. The US especially. It's just that places like F-list, and this board are too insignificant for anyone to care, where as 4chan was a sufficiently large enough target for the law to apply.
>>2083 I'm just saying that most sites cull a thing because it's illegal in the place they're operating from. Not out of courtesy for potential users unless you're really desperate to court them. Getting rid of fetish content on boards and in threads related to discussing and playing out fetishes to appeal to the lowest common denominator will leave us with nothing but "plap plap plap get pregnant."
>>2084 Okay, well I don't know if loli is illegal from where-ever the fuck this place is operating out of. But, for the US there are numerous cases for it that set a precedence of illegality. However, it is extremely likely to come about as there's simply not sufficient enough value to this place for anyone to care.
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Just as an FYI, your board being SFW or NSFW is a toggle that the admins have to set for you. What you guys did is de-index your board, which makes it invisible to the whole site. Basically anons can't see you or find you in the public lists so you won't get any new people joining. You might be better served re-indexing it and just having the admins set it to NSFW.
>>2089 I did that on purpose after someone driveby posted illegal content yesterday followed by indian whatsapp scammers posting. I'm fine with the board being link accessible only.
>>2091 You are free to operate your own board however you want. Personally I thought you guys just quit and went back to 4chan when I did not see the board in the top. As a word of caution, you will need some form of visibility if you want to grow your community, and if a lot of anons are from 4chan who are used to very high PPH(posts per hour) this place will seem dead to them, they leave, and this reduces the PPH even more, thus spiraling into death. Again, you are free to operate your board however you want, I just hope you have plans to either maintain your community, or at least know how to invite new members to replace the ones that leave. One more thing, you might want to know, is that the board /2434/ is also made out of refugees from 4chan, they made the board about a year ago, because of too much spam and moderators working against them, but they quickly returned to 4chan probably because of low PPH, but after the spam became even worse they managed to settle here for good. They don't have that high of a PPH, but they constantly remain in the top boards, so there are about 10- 20 people who keep it alive. You could try to converse with the BO from /2434/ to see how they managed to consolidate, as they probably have the same backstory as you guys have. Again, I wish you the best, and hope you can settle here.
>>2243 I hope so too! It's a nice site and seems to be well run. That being said, if the users don't want to settle here they just won't. Add that to the fact that this is a bunker more than anything and that our schizo seems to be on cooldown for now... Honestly, I'm happy either way. He's not spamming scat in our general which means the users there are happy.
>>2244 Spoke too soon...
I don't really see the point in the whore house thread when the halfchan /erp/ thread is still doing well, last I checked. Like, if this place offered anything different like more blues with faces it would be fun, but /erp/ itself is boring faceless disembodied cock central with cucks galore and mild drama. >>2283 It's even worse tonight than it's been in a while...
>>2542 I'm sure this isn't the last time he'll be back. This board will stay up as a safe haven.


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