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/sthg/ - Sonic The Hedgehog General Anonymous 02/16/2020 (Sun) 19:30:42 No. 19789
Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic! /sthg/ #35 - Hollywood Sonic Edition <Sonic News> >Sonic The Hedgehog: The Movie is out now! >IDW Sonic Issue 26 has been delayed until March 4th >SEGA announces Sonic2020 Project: https://twitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1219155889757675521 >Sonic Movie projected to make $55 million over the weekend: https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/02/sonic-rings-up-3-million-in-thursday-previews-projected-to-make-55-million-over-the-weekend/ >SEGA confirms Sonic panel at SXSW 2020: https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/02/sega-confirms-sonic-panel-at-sxsw2020/ >Steam & Humble Bundle Sonic Sale lasting all week: https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/02/steam-humble-bundle-offer-sonic-fans-superb-savings-with-week-long-sales/ >Sonic At the Olympic Games 2020 release date announced with Story Mode trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwO8QROQWVk >Old Sonic Movie Concept Art released showing scrapped villain: https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/02/old-sonic-movie-concept-features-unused-villain-sonic-fighting-with-chris-evans/ >New IDW Sonic mini-series confirmed after Tangle & Whisper is finished: http://www.tssznews.com/2019/10/04/idw-publishing-20-years-and-beyond-panel-news/ >March Sonic Channel Wallpaper Hint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYFEicxi7ZU <General Interest Links> >General Link Compilation: https://pastebin.com/iu99Tb2s >/sthg/ booru: http://sthg.booru.org/ >/sthg/ cytube channel: https://cytu.be/r/sthg >IDW Sonic Comics: https://mega.nz/#F!65oBCaoQ!8lkn8JebzaZensDJbLxDeg Previous Zone: >>19114
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>>19789 https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/status/1229093644633808896?s=20 >#SonicMovie is #1 in the world & had the biggest domestic opening all time for a video game movie! I… wasn't expecting the movie to do this well financially. I don't know about you, but this screams "sequels" to me.
Fast And thanks for doing the honors, OP!
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fa– >>19792
Holy Merry Mother of Madrid. Either hell froze over, or this is the era of Video Game films that are "actually" somewhat good.
>>19791 Oh yeah, this is definitely getting a sequel. I imagine we'll get some type of adaptation of Sonic 2 given the mid-credits scene in the movie. >>19795 >95% Audience Score Tbh, it's almost amazing hearing just how much people loved watching this film. I read a few posts of people talking about how their theaters would have a shit ton of young Sonic fans all discussing the series, lore, talking about wanting to see Shadow or Silver or Amy or Knuckles appearing & there's been several people talking about their theater erupting during the mid-credits scene. Sounds pretty wonderful, tbh.
>>19791 On one hand it's pretty cool that Sonic has been demonstrated to still be a viable brand, but I don't think there are any other positives. This good outcome happened through sheer clumsiness of everyone involved and I don't trust Sega to take a single constructive conclusion out of this, I'm afraid of how this might end up affecting the whole franchise, and honestly I would really like something else for a movie and instead it's likely that this is here to stay. This isn't how I thought this was going to play out at all, lol.
>>19796 Same thing happened to me when I went to see the movie, It's amazing how popular Sonic is with kids… Wasn't expecting to see them hyped up about the film. Spoilers ahead I can't begin to imagine how ugly Tails would've looked like if Sonic's design stayed the same.
Oh hey, today's Ristar's 25th anniversary. I've always wondered why it never had any kind of sequel. The game was fun, and really pretty. At least, from what I remember.
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>>19799 I think some of it comes down to SEGA changing after Sonic came around & nowadays, the general idea is that franchises like Ristar wouldn't sell.
>>19801 >after Sonic came around I meant SEGA changing after the mid-90s. Forgive my brainfart
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Did this actually happen? The budget and year of Sonic bits. Also seems Hoshino and Jun will be directing the new Sonic JP streams and you can send them questions to get the answers on the stream.
>>19803 IIRC, doing more with SEGA's current IPs & putting more money into their budget was something confirmed around mid-2019, so it's incredibly likely that's the case with Sonic. And yeah, they're promoting 2020 as the "Year of Sonic," with some piece of info or news coming out every month this year.
>>19798 tails in the movie looks too much like sonic for me anyway (too similar eye shape) so just apply old design's philosophies onto tails (maybe just shorter) and you'd probably get it close >>19796 sonic's quills giving the ability to keep up with sonic and eggman going nuts at the end makes me want a simultaneous 2&CD adaption where eggman makes metal sonic cos hes going crazy and needs a punching bag that can react and something that can beat sonic and tails is there and he can maybe do tech shit or just be more firepower to beat something thats equal to sonic [spoiler]and then it leads into a quadrilogy with 3&K as the third movie somehow and the OVA is the fourth movie so it evolves from Metal Sonic (which could look like the drones and stuff and not be blue) to Hyper Metal Sonic[/spoiler]
>>19805 fuck how do you nestle spoilers
>>19806 I mean you could delete your post & try again
>>19807 how to format it properly though cos idk what i did wrong
>>19808 Personally I just wrap ** around everything I try to post. Makes it much easier, since doing it the other way can be a pain. Test it out
nested test
>>19798 tails in the movie looks too much like sonic for me anyway (too similar eye shape) so just apply old design's philosophies onto tails (maybe just shorter) and you'd probably get it close >>19796 sonic's quills giving the ability to keep up with sonic and eggman going nuts at the end makes me want a simultaneous 2&CD adaption where eggman makes metal sonic cos hes going crazy and needs a punching bag that can react and something that can beat sonic and tails is there and he can maybe do tech shit or just be more firepower to beat something thats equal to sonic and then it leads into a quadrilogy with 3&K as the third movie somehow and the OVA is the fourth movie so it evolves from Metal Sonic (which could look like the drones and stuff and not be blue) to Hyper Metal Sonic
>>19811 There you go!
>Sunday already What have you all been up to this weekend?
>>19813 Nothing Sonic related, but I am next week gonna see about DL'ing from the comics mega link in the OP.
>>19813 Nice pic. I played a bit of Forces and did a bunch of boring stuff like meeting with family and tidying up my apartment. What about you?
>>19812 trying to delete the old post and its giving me a 403 forbidden?
>>19816 Deleting posts is still bugged.
>>19813 I passed a test and drew some shit. Tried out Lost World for the first time, it was fine, but I can't enjoy it entirely since my pc is shit and it runs slower than it should.
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Morning /fast/!
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>>19827 good mornin/evenin
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>>19827 Hello anons! What are your plans for this week? Remember that we'll have a Sonic-related announcement on the 20th.
>>19830 keep thinking abt movielore a lil, make bread, go outside and stuff, have sonic in back of mind
>>19830 >plans for the week Get back into drawing and pixel art for the umpteenth time. Might do a banner for /fast/ Play a Sonic game Play certain video games less
>>19827 Good morning pink gerbil. >>19830 Play some more Forces, work a lot and sleep very little, hopefuly enjoy the stream on the 20th, look forward to >>19832 's banner.
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>>19830 I will get better internet for the stream as soon as I can and watch the movie(not yet sure if legally or not) Pic not related
>>19834 >watch the movie(not yet sure if legally or not) Are you talking about sneaking into movie theater without paying or is there a rip available for download?
>>19835 I've taken a quick look on TPB and there are HDCAM recordings, so I thought these might be good enough since I'm not concerned with quality. But I have decided to watch it with a friend at the theatre legally
https://www.theilluminerdi.com/2020/02/12/sonic-the-hedgehog-writers-1/ New interview from the writers of the Sonic film. Apparently, more CG characters & more stuff from Sonic's world was in the early drafts of the movie, but had to change for budgetary reasons. This actually makes me hopeful on seeing more game characters in the future, tbh.
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I would love to see the movie with you, anon.
>>19838 I guess that makes one of us.
>>19838 stream when
>>19840 When I can find a quality DL that isn't just someone recording with their camera.
>>19841 >that isn't just someone recording with their camera sounds unlikely until the movie comes out in dvd or something.
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>>19842 Fair, but I do wanna have a good rip to play in the cytube for you guys. Unless no one cares & just want to see the movie, in which case I can do that.
>>19844 For me it depends on how bad the rips are and how long a good one could take to pop up. I'm probably going to wait for the stream to watch it, but I'm not rushed.
>>19846 I love chao.
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>>19803 >and set this 2020 as the Year of Sonic hmmm
>>19848 This time, it's Japanese and not a reboot.
>>19849 How do we know it's not a reboot though?
>>19850 Because their last Sonic off-shoot failed spectacularly and will never be relevant ever again.
>>19850 Tbh with the next game already in development & SEGA keeping their distance with the movie until the last 3 months, I doubt the movie is gonna lead to a reboot of the series. Especially with how much money they'd be leaving on the table from capitalizing on Mania's success
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF726gXNNmE A bit of a random question, but if other characters outside of Sonic became playable in the Modern games again, would you be for unique level OSTs ala SA2?
>>19853 fuck yeah
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>>19853 I'd be mostly concerned with how good the music and levels would be, everything else is a detail. But sure the more detail in a game the better.
>>19855 Cool picture, anon. Did you take it?
>>19856 wish I had the statue, but no.
>>19853 >unique level osts for different characters Ideally, I'd want it done where the zone / stage has a base theme and each character has their own twist to the music as well as level design
>>19858 Sounds pretty cool. I can see something like a rock remix for Sonic, rap remix for Knuckles, pop for Amy, etc. Would the twists in level design be something like Sonic Heroes, or would it be done some other way?
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I was going to post this elsewhere but I got a little moody so I'll just post it here. Tried to make something interesting, but I can't draw electricity for shit. Oh well.
>>19863 Hey, you did a good job on the Sonic so don't beat yourself up too much. Thanks for the pic, anon!
>>19864 Thanks. But I just noticed I didn't even draw his ears kek. Guess I was really out of it then, I'll fix that later.
>>19863 Reminds me of an Archie cover. Also yeah the ears.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY4CsauzAvU Morning /fast/! Now we can (sorta) play Sonic X-Treme!
>>19863 Nice.
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Less than 10 hours until the stream
>>19871 What stream?
>>19872 The first Sonic Radio thing. We're set to get a stream on the 20th of very month, so we're just a few hours away from the first one.
>>19870 Do they actually play the whole, original game? Also do they play only one game?
>>19874 So far, you can only play 2 X-Treme levels. But people have used this Dreams game to make their own Sonic levels, some even inspired by Adventure, which is pretty cool.
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>>19871 I would not get too excited. It's probably just going to be showing the Sonic 2 port for the Switch and Sonic at the Olympics. These streams weren't even announced by Sega of America so there's no chance they'll be announcing anything important
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She is so cute when happy
>>19880 Name a cuter mascot than Lah the Ghost. You can't. Well, only other one I can think of is Shantae.
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Fixed the ears problem and "improved" the lightning. Hope that's better now.
>>19882 I'll need to check it out later unfortunately >>19883 Nice, this makes me wanna see the movie.
>>19883 Much better! >>19884 Yeah, likewise, I'll need to check it out later, I want to see what Jun and Hoshino got up to!
>>19883 Great work!
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>>19886 >>19885 >>19884 Thanks. Guess I'll just post some other things I worked on a few days ago too.
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kek
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March Sonic Channel wallpaper!
Why didn't the Sonic Boom cartoon get a cool opening like all of the other Sonic cartoons did?
>>19892 A: it was a comedy show B: CN made every show's opening since 2008 last like 30sec-1min long compared to shows back in the pre 2006 era
>>19893 Basically this. It's pretty commonplace for cartoons to basically only show the title card to fit in more commercials. Although Boom (like other CN shows) did have a longer intro in the UK, IIRC. >>19891 Nice! >>19889 >Shadow crying Heh, good stuff
>>19893 >>19894 I think anon is more referring to the fact that what opening there was (and the full thing the UK got) was a very generic deal with the characters just in basic action shots and some of the most forgettable music ever. There was no creativity or passion at all in that opening.
>>1988 Thank you very cool! >>19890 That's some really nice stuff! >>19892 I have always wondered why they chose to use such an uninspired, expressionless intro. It sticks the badger out when comparing the other shows, in a negative way
>>19894 >>Shadow crying >Heh, good stuff You horrible monster.
>>19898 I mean, Shadow IS a bit of a jerk sometimes
>>19889 Maria gonna do a Chaos Dunk.
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Which Sonic spin-off you'd like to see get a sequel in the future, /fast/?
>>19902 Battle, hands down! But I hope if they one day do it, they do a better job with the gameplay.
>>19903 Yes! A Battle sequel with the newer characters like Silver, Blaze & whatnot would rule, tbh. t'd also like to see another attempt at a Riders game. If nothing else, that series had a great aesthetic & deserved a better fate than dying with the Kinect.
>>19901 This is interesting. I like that they're not separating Sonic and "classic" Sonic in two different characters. I can't help but feel this is in preparation for something bigger, though.
>>19905 There's been some hints that some big announcement is coming this year. With Sonic at SXSW, I imagine we're getting something game-related very soon.
>>19904 >Silver, Blaze It could be a lot of fun to fight as them! It sounds like they'd be OP as hell. >>19901 That was pretty fun. It makes me wonder if they feel the need to do this because they want to move forward with a more story/lore based title. That would be pretty awesome.
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>>19907 >First spoiler All the more reason for it! Also yeah, they're definitely gearing up for something. Between this video & the "it started in 2015" thing on twitter a while back. Makes you wonder what it could be. >>19908 Lol, bless you mate
>>19908 Funny and sad.
>>19908 It sounds like this was made out of spite rather than anything else. Doesn't feel as funny or original as the first one, but probably it's because of not frequenting there anymore. I remember all the shitposting that came after the first one too, hopefully they're faring well but yeah fat chance. I Feel bad for anon at the end, though.

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>>19912 Cute deer.
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Upcoming solicits for the May IDW issues! >Sonic the Hedgehog #29—Cover A: Jack Lawrence - Ian Flynn (w) • Evan Stanley (a) • Jack Lawrence (c) >"All or Nothing," Part Four! This is it! Sonic and the remaining members of the Restoration team-up for their final fight against the ultra powerful Deadly Six. Not only do they have to take on Zavok, but a legion of zombots as well! The thrilling final battle of the Metal Virus Saga! >Sonic the Hedgehog #30—Cover A: Adam Bryce Thomas - Ian Flynn (w) • Adam Bryce Thomas (a & c) >The Metal Virus Saga is over, but that doesn't mean things are back to normal. As the world begins picking up the pieces, who will be missing? What villains will escape? And who will go back on their word?
>>19916 >the fucking finale of the metal virus is about the deadly six Why can't Sega just drop them already?
>>19918 Name one Modern recurring antagonist that isn't Eggman or Eggman Nega.
>>19919 That's relevant how?
>>19920 I think the point is that Modern Sonic has a very low list of villains that are recurring, thus the D6 get used more than they probably would otherwise. Also, Ian hasn't really used 'em much in comics, so they're at least sorta fresh there.
>>19921 But as the final conflict in a zombie story? The D6 just feel so haphazardly thrown in to a plot about a rampaging, seemingly unstoppable zombie virus. You have this really dire situation about a mindless entity consuming the world that's suddenly undermined by the dollar-store Koopa Kids becoming the lead villains in control of said mindless entity. The plot shouldn't really have a lead villain like that in the first place, because it acts counter to the entire point of the story. It just feel like another instance of the D6 being shoved into a story they have no place in, like pretty much every use of the D6 aside from Lost World and maybe Runners.
>>19919 Why did it have to be a recurring antagonist? That doesn't make it necessarily good.
>>19922 I suppose that's a fair point. Although it *does* kinda make sense given that they can control robots, but the D6 has been very over-exposed in recent Sonic media without much to really show for it. I liked the way Ian wrote them in #25, but I can't help but feel like the Deadly Six is still lacking in personality or reasons to care about them, unlike Starline, Eggman or Metal, etc.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/02/sonic-blasts-to-the-top-of-the-box-office-for-2nd-week-grosses-200-mil/ >Sonic Movie made over 200 million Jesus, I could've never have imagined this a year ago. With this & the rumors of who's gonna be in the sequel, there may be an actual Sonic movie franchise.
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>>19925 Sega are going to see this movie made more in a week against all expectations than them in a decade and are going to want to kill themselves. Not sure what their reaction is going to be. Hopefully they'll get ambitious and realize they could have all that dosh for themselves and give us a Marza animated movie.
>>19926 >A full animated Marza Sonic flick That's the dream, tbh. Going by what's being posted on their social media lately, it's clear Marza wants to do some more Sonic stuff so I'm all for it.
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Morning or rather good afternoon /fast/!
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>>19933 Evening anon.
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So this is a thing https://lnk.to/cvcvd9JC
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>>19936 Homing attacking robots while holding Elise feels dumb.
>>19937 Elise can take it, I'm sure.
>>19939 She takes it like she wants to take hedgehog cock.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eDoi9F7Rp4 Is there a Sonic game with an OST more underrated than Sonic Heroes? >>19940 W-well, I suppose so
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IDW #27 covers!
>>19943 I'm hoping Cream finally snaps and tears a zeti up.
>>19943 God damn, Gray's covers have been a treat lately. >>19944 That would be pretty fun actually.
>>19943 >OUCH POTATO I chuckled. >GEEK GRRRL wut Is Cream's mom using someone else's cup or something?
>>19947 Could be, although I dunno who'd fit that description outside of Wave. Or maybe Vanilla's a nerd >>19944 Hell yeah
>>19943 I want to point out that Big is not only in first, but is using the fishing rod controller. Also, Tails appears to be cheating and using a controller by his own design. Rouge is actually cheating and yet is still somehow in 7th.
>>19950 Big kicking everyone's asses in Sonic Shuffle with a fishing rod controller is just amazing, tbh.
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>>19952 Cute.
chao focused mini story arc when
>>19953 Cute stuff. >>19954 Tbh, I can see that being a story in the Annual. Would be pretty sweet.
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Morning /fast/
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>>19956 Good morning! (Or evening here) Hope you'll have a productive day, any plans?
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>>19956 Good morning anon
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>>19958 >>19956 >>19957 Good morning mi niggas
>>19955 I completely forgot about the annual. When is it coming out again? Have they already gotten around to delay it?
>>19960 IIRC, it's coming out in April. No word on delays so far, so who knows >>19957 Gonna be busy most of the day, but tonight, I may play some Sonic Unleashed
Just looked up stuff about TLSC out of curiosity & surprise surprise, it's still not out. Hasn't it been 10 years since it was announced?
>>19962 Ten years would be 2010, which I'm pretty sure is at least a couple of years before it got announced. Pretty close, though.
>>19956 I really wish spring would get here already. I'm tired of Chicago winter.
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lots of new sonic stuff coming out. I like the Sonic/Super Sonic and Knuckles/Shadow ones a lot, specially the latter.
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>>19965 Some new pink hedgehog merch.
>>19965 >>19966 Looking nice. Feels like it's been a while since we got Super Sonic merch, tbh.
>>19962 Has he actually had any kind of paid work in all these years?
>>19968 IIRC, he did a few commissions at recent conventions but beyond that, he hasn't had any real work since his first couple of years after leaving Archie. I think his wife's a lawyer, so he's doing fine.
I know we have layout maps of the 2D levels but are there any overhead / top-down maps of any of the 3D games and their levels?
>>19971 Oh nice. Not him, but this is pretty cool stuff.
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>>19971 >those colors maps that show up later in the thread I'll never get over how fucking bland Colors was.
>>19973 You know, despite what people say I still have fond memories of Colors. Fucking around with the drill wisp and finding hidden areas was comfy as hell.
>>19974 Colors is pretty much the opposite of Unleashed, nice gimmicks on top of a poorly built game.
Although I've said I wasn't going to update much on the low poly game until March, I did want to address something I've realized when comparing my game to the likes of SA1/2. Radical Highway confirms one thing; SA2 moves a lot faster than my game does but also has slower movement at the same time than my game?… Basically, because you can spindash whenever you want with a high force output compared to the classic games instead of using the slopes to gain your speed naturally, you kinda have this "start and stop" type of gameplay which makes the flow of the game look really weird. It means, despite not looking like it, if SA2 played more like my game you'd actually have lots of moments you can just fly over the level with the speed gainage you can get in SA2 and skip a lot of the current level design, if you had more closer momentum to the classics. This isn't me calling SA1/2 out persay, it's more like, it's what had to be ajusted to somehow make a faster Sonic the Hedgehog while also having control, even if it messes with the fluidity of the momentum itself, and more than likely, due to the file size of the game they had to make work on the Dreamcast at the time. It's interesting to notice that, comparing to Emerald Coast, my game is almost pace to pace the same as in SA1. So SA2 is more or less at faster kinda of game than SA1. As long as you don't spam the spindash like in SA1 that is. /blog
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>>19966 These are so fucking amazing.
>>19976 Huh. I never really thought about the way SA2 played like that before. I suppose with that in mind, it actually kinda makes some sense as to why Adventure 2 never fully replicated the classic games style of momentum, even if it was one of the better attempts in the 3D games. Although I can't help but wonder how the scenario you mentioned would've turned out for speedruns of SA2 & the like
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Lah's really tired of your shit anon!
>>19977 Those figs look great. I see an Amy in the back, is it new or what? >>19979 Well, tell Lah to stop being so cute then!
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>>19980 Yeah, everything is new I think.
It was Naoto Ohshima's birthday yesterday. Iizuka's birthday is next month, I believe. And apparently Ohshima retweeted this: https://twitter.com/EmeryKennedy77/status/1232220540708016129 Archie Sonic characters are SoA property. I wish I got Blinx a long time ago now that I have an original Xbox
>>19981 Lovely. I don't think we've gotten many figures with Eggman's pod so that's very nice. The Amy & Metal are looking sweet, too. >>19982 >Archie Sonic characters are SoA property In the case of post-reboot Archie, I think SEGA made it a point to get the rights to them to avoid another Penders situation from happening. Great to know those guys aren't in legal purgatory, at least.
>>19982 I wonder if it's true. >>19983 >Great to know those guys aren't in legal purgatory, at least They still could be I guess, they might be wary to use them out of fear of attracting issues, even if they're in their right to use them.
Good morning /fast/!
>>19986 Morning anon! >>19984 I imagine SEGA was also heavily soured on anything Archie after the Penders & Fulop legal mess. I can't blame them, but I guess I'm glad the fans are keeping them alive at least.
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>>19986 hey anon, morning
>>19987 Those guys are to us what Chris Christie is to New Jersey. We all pray he gets killed as soon as possible… I'm glad stuff like StC: Online and Archie Sonic Online exist just to show how much we care. I remember a certain anon trying to justify that they are nothing but non-canon fan fiction that's not worth existing (even if some of the original staff worked on them). While it's true to some degree, you don't see SEGA trying to continue them anytime soon. I say mass community support is as good a Seal of Approval as any (especially if the original creators support them), that's how I think they made that Sonic Movie not only watchable, but ironically one of the best video game movies ever made. Come to think of it, maybe that's one of the reasons why SEGA are the complete opposite when it comes to fan-made content compared to the likes of Nintendo and Konami. How many of you think Penders will attack the Archie Sonic Online staff for infringement?
>>19989 I doubt he'd do anything to ASO, just based on the fact that he'd gain nothing from it. Going off of some of the stuff he's said over the years, the only reason Ken is doing any of this is because he wants to make money with his characters attached to official Sonic series material. He even talked about how despite the legal issues, he wanted to "work things out with SEGA so they could use his characters in the games in exchange for him being able to use Knuckles in a film." Now with all that being said, I will be fair & admit that if Penders/Fulop or anyone else weren't paid royalties for characters they may have legally owned, then yeah, they should've sought compensation. However, that doesn't justify the shit that Ken has been doing in all the years since the lawsuit. >>19988 Cute hogs. I kinda wish we had gotten the "online short series before a game's release" deal sooner, because some shorts based off of Generations would've been nice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkD7ee0Qz64 I hope SEGA brings Naganuma back for a future OST. Rush had some sick stuff in it.
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Evening /fast/! Out of curiosity, what was the most recent Sonic game you've played? Thoughts on it?
>>19992 Lost World and Forces, and I disliked both, but LW far, FAR more Mania and Robo Blast 2, both I liked a lot. Get's both 2D/3D Sonic right for me desu.
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>>19992 The most recent Sonic game I've played was Sonic Lost world. It's… different. To me, it was a neat little game but I wouldn't really want it to be the norm for what Sonic games should be. That being said, I still haven't finished it, barely got to the middle. Doesn't really pull me back in. I've been thinking about getting back to Sonic Riders and testing it out with that new mod everyone's talking about on youtube.
>>19992 I was about to say forces but then remembered the last game i played was actually Skypatrol if that counts. In terms of forces, despite its more blatant issues; the only thing that really made it a poor experience was how short it is for me. Its other flaws are decently well hidden for a really loose playthrough, though i'm sure they'd become very apparent if i played it for longer. Personally i find sky patrol just a fun little game, its a bit odd to get use to; but once you do its pretty fun. Difficultly is pretty normal till the final which is a huge leap in difficulty. But well, the game is really short so i guess i can't really blame the jump.
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>>19994 There's a new Sonic Riders mod? This the first I'm hearing of it, I didn't even know people touched that game in the Sonic modding community. >>19995 I haven't played Sky Patrol in a long time, but I remember it being pretty fun. More fun than some of the other Game Gear titles like Sonic Spinball or Labyrinth. >>19993 Is it fucked that despite loving the shit out of Sonic Mania, I still haven't done Mania Plus yet?
https://twitter.com/KenPenders/status/1233130871353298945 So Ken is planning to reprint & re-sell his Archie Sonic run. The balls on this man is incredible.
>>19996 >Spoiler Not really but you just miss out on Ray and Mighty. Otherwise, it's really not such a big miss but it's not a bad thing to just get Plus. The only thing Plus replaces from the original is the old Metal Sonic bossfight. It's replaced with a Knuckles's Chaotix reference.
>>19997 https://twitter.com/KenPenders/status/1233081283506425856 Wrong tweet, but yeah. He's seriously going to re-print his Archie run under his publication & will (seemingly at least) remove the Archie name.
>>19997 >>19999 It would be balls if he realized how risky it is. In reality, he's so narcissistic he doesn't even see the possibility of this backfiring on him.
>>19987 >I imagine SEGA was also heavily soured on anything Archie after the Penders & Fulop legal mess They should turned the other cheek for us fans like we've had to do for them so many times in the past. >I guess I'm glad the fans are keeping them alive at least. Yeah, definitely. >>19989 >How many of you think Penders will attack the Archie Sonic Online staff for infringement? That would be fun and a new low for him. Honestly, if I ever worked on any fan projects I'd do so anonymously. Cease and Desist this. Though in the case of people working on these fancomics I think they might use them as portfolios later on so it could be not so easy. >>19990 >I doubt he'd do anything to ASO I can at the very least see him demanding that they put © and ® Pen Kenders like he's demanded in the past in relation to fanart of "his" characters. >I will be fair & admit that if Penders/Fulop or anyone else weren't paid royalties for characters they may have legally owned He even went on the record saying he didn't own anything before his contract vanished without a trace, if I remember correctly. He's a snake and when he saw the chance he bit the hand that fed him.
>>19996 Sky patrol has an odd rep from what i've seen. I've seen it labeled as extremely difficult but it really is just a learning curve till Dark Castle. i'll never get why zones are called areas; though i suppose a lot about sky patrol is an enigma. Its probably a side effect of lack of exposure, while people sorta know it exists; its not a game that gives you a large amount of breathing room like Tails Adventure. >>19999 Holy hell thats amazingly stupid. I think he forgot that he didn't get all the characters in those.
>>19992 I'm still slowly going through Forces. It's… a mess, honestly. It doesn't really do anything well and it doesn't do anything for too long, so it doesn't end up being offensively bad, but it's… basically nothing.
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>>19990 We got this at least, I guess. Doesn't have the same kind of meat to it as a short but it's still something. Despite how short it is it's fucking beautiful.
>>19992 I played the final release of Sonic 2 Advanced Edit. It did some neat things, but man, some of those levels go on way too long, and some of the bosses are horrendous. Sad the devs basically had to drop the project before it was finished, though.
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>>19999 >I still have a few issues to resolve >a few no shit
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>>20000 >he's so narcissistic he doesn't even see the possibility of this backfiring on him To be honest, so far he's done really well for himself despite fucking everyone else over, and even though his legal tricks never made any sense they've actually worked, so who knows what will happen in this case. I still think he's just full of hot air on this one though. By the way, didn't a series of stories by him get reprinted last year or something? I remember something to that extent. Also hey, 20000 GET. Congrats /fast/!
>>19997 >>19999 This guy is playing 4D chess. All he's got going for and what keeps him relevant is the hate he gets from every side, so he has to keep doing shit like this so he doesn't fade into obscurity until he releases his comic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22EFxAyobKc >>19996 >There's a new Sonic Riders mod? I don't know if it is actually new, but I just discovered it a few days ago. >There are many more changes present in the mod. Character balance, tweaked mechanics, helpful features, and even more additional content! You can see every we changed in great detail by browsing our website here: https://sites.google.com/view/sonic-riders-te/home >It's important to mention that the mod and the texture pack are separate to give people the choice of whether or not they want to use it. Additionally, the texture pack also works on vanilla Riders. If you don't care for the mod you can still play riders with our high res 2D assets!
>>20007 >so far he's done really well for himself He got his characters back, but only because Archie's legal team sucked balls, and as a consequence he made himself a pariah to Archie Sonic fans, the only people who might have been interested in the LSC in the first place. Very few people are actually going to buy his shit, now, which is probably why he's trying to resort to selling Archie issues. And, considering those issues contain characters own by SEGA, they're going to drop the hammer down on him hard if he actually attempts it.
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>>19989 >that they are nothing but non-canon fan fiction that's not worth existing That is his argument, and personally, I fail to see the appeal of something being official or not. Must we really have to keep caring whether something is canon or not? While it's certainly important to regard the consistency and knowledge of the lore, I'm not sure if there's benefit at restricting many established things and filtering in specific creators only for the sake of canon. Especially, when we consider that there's no such thing as "canon" in the context of Sonic nowadays. Contrary to popular belief, I never regarded the canon rule as something very important, or rather, as important as writing and quality and such. Instead, personally speaking, I prefer simply caring for the good content, characters I like, things that are entertaining for me, and similar, regardless of whether or not they are fan or official content. Let ourselves just be very gracious that StC and AS, beloved by many faithful fans, are still receiving much of love and contribution. Regardless, I can't wait to start reading ASO. Currently, I'm still far from it, as the last issue number I read was 240#. I really wish to continue my readings, but the Ian's issues at this moment are so dragging and formulaic that they have spontaneously lessened my motivation to continue with it.
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Good Morning /fast/! It's Friday! What are your plans for the weekend? Anything Sonic related?
>>20012 Probably nothing Sonic related outside of listening to Sonic music. Maybe I'll listen to one of the Sonic vinyls I got.
>>20012 I'm going to play Sonic Battle. Haven't touched it in years, and I've been getting interested on it lately.
>>20010 >considering those issues contain characters own by SEGA, they're going to drop the hammer down on him hard if he actually attempts it. Depending on how things actually played out, I think it's possible they might not be able to. Take this with a grain of salt but I remember him getting the right to some of the issues and not just his characters, and if that's the case then Sega gave permission to produce those issues and they can't take that back, so I imagine he'll present himself as the rights holder for the issues (but not Sonic or any or the characters) and say he can reprint them. It's like how Sega can't remake Sonic 3 because of rights issues with some parts original material but they still can port it to as many platforms they like without problem because they're not making a new product with the original material (which would require new licenses), they're just commercializing the product the material was licensed for so it's perfectly okay.
>>20015 Yeah no, he literally cannot; he could remove sonic and such from the comic and release it sure; but he cannot release it with them intact. SEGA basically gave zero shits in regards to Archies bed shitting. They sure as fuck didn't sign any contracts that gave limited usage of their characters. He might own issues, but he doesn't own anything that gives him access to actual SEGA characters; just like he wouldn't own any ads attached to the issues he bought.
>>20016 So basically, he'd have to remove all the Sonic game characters, the Freedom Fighters, every character that debuted in SatAM, the random characters from other franchises that showed up in Archie (Spawn, the X-Files) & (if he's really planning on doing the whole comic series) the Capcom characters that appeared in the comic?
>>20017 Weren't the Spawn appearances and such parody? Pretty sure those are safe. But yeah realistically he would have to modify and change the names of the characters that aren't his. I don't even know if he bought any of the issues involving Capcom stuff. Or he could get permission from SEGA i suppose, always a technical possibility.
>>20018 I know the TMNT appearance was a parody, but I think Spawn was actually a crossover. Been a long time, so I may be mis-remembering.
>>20016 >They sure as fuck didn't sign any contracts that gave limited usage of their characters I don't think that's relevant anymore because the characters have already been approved by SEGA to feature in the comics. They can't say they didn't approve the use of their characters anymore, now it's about who owns the rights to the film/comic/game that they're featured on. It could be a situation like with Sonic 3 where Sega can't use the original tunes because they don't own them, not even for a Sonic 3 remake (since it'd be a new product and would require relicensing), but they can re-release the already made Sonic 3 without modifications, because they did license the tunes to be used in that game and they own the game.
>>20018 The Image appearances were from an actual crossover issue. That was supposed to be the real spawn Sonic and co. met.
>>20021 To clarify, Spawnmower was a parody, but the Freedom Fighters also ran into the real Spawn during a crossover issue.
>>20012 Finish Forces I guess. Maybe replay a few missions. >>20014 Battle is a lot of fun, enjoy. Record some fights for us if you can!
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>>20015 Looking up the details of what happened on the Sonic wikia so feel free to correct me if I missed something the stories on the Sonic comic series & the Knuckles comic series that was written by Ken Penders is owned by him after the Archie lawsuit & the SEGA/EA suit ended in a settlement where Ken can't sue unless any of the Sonic Chronicles cast (like Shade, or the Dark Brotherhood) are used again. So unless I'm mistaken, he can re-release his run but he could be shit out of luck on anything else. Oh & this.
>>20023 Well, objective complete I guess. Happy to see Sergio got a mention in the credits, but I was surprised Haruki Satomi (CEO) also got mentioned, and as an executive producer no less.
>>20025 How did you like the final boss?
>>20026 It was very uninspired. In the case of the fight with Classic, it was very disappointing they reused the very first boss mechanic, but what they did with the floor was an okay twist I guess. Still, very very uninspired compared to some of the bosses in the classic games. The one with the avatar was better I guess in the sense that it was more original, but it wasn't anything to write home about. It wasn't anything exhilarating or super fun or anything. For the one with the three of them, it also felt very unoriginal, uninspired, and honestly kind of boring. It feels they took the worst possible lessons from previous boss fights. Sorry to be such a downer.
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>tfw you run into a bug There were supposed to be enemies here and an exit would unlock when you defeated them, but when I got in the room it was empty and there was no way to unlock the exit!
>>20029 >Softlocking in a modern Sonic game Color me surprised…
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>>19961 >>19960 Well fuck me.
>>20031 The D in IDW stands for Delay
>>20031 Welp, guess I spoke too soon. Fuck sakes.
>>20031 What a joke of a publisher. Sonic by DC when?
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halfchan leak of a new Sonic render So far people claim to be fake out of knee jerk No proof anything in the image hints at the actual content of the next game OP of thread states SEGA's going to rerelease HD ports of most 3D Sonic games to current and next gen consoles coming soon at SXSW.
>>20035 >No proof anything in the image hints at the actual content of the next game Hopefully the fact that Classic is there doesn't mean we're going to get Forces 2 or something. I imagine the 30 in the title references the 30th anniversary, which would be pretty cool because it'd be great if they ramped up the 30th anniversary hype soon. >OP of thread states SEGA's going to rerelease HD ports of most 3D Sonic games to current and next gen consoles coming soon at SXSW. That would be so much work simply because of how many games there are. I just hope if this is true and they're actually putting that many resources into re-releasing old games everyone's played 1000 times, they're also actually putting a good amount of resources into the actual anniversary game. Because I can totally see them using up all their resources into something other than the anniversary game and then them running out of resources for said game.
>>19990 Nice optimism, and I can confirm that Triple A Comic Writers are fucked over every day even worse than Penders (especially at Marvel), but he milked it so hard, Archie became so lactose intolerant that they made all of us drink soy. >>19997 >>19999 It's not just balls, but he's proving to be a Grade A Edison when it comes to property seizure (in this case, we were all Teslas). >>20001 Continuing from my statement above, he's also proven to be on the same wavelength of (if not worse than) a Star Wars fan-boy. I'm willing to bet 10 dollars that he still lives with his mother as well. They're all either pretty lousy liars, or master manipulators. >>20011 I agree wholeheartedly. It's hard to pinpoint a prime canon for a series like Sonic because it was Rick and Morty before Rick and Morty when it comes to "infinite worlds, infinite possibilities". As the saying goes: "Multiverse theory is a bitch!" Lay it on me if you think I can elaborate anything else…
>>20036 Well don't get too excited because it might actually be faked https://twitter.com/SamsProStation/status/1233835821196881920?s=20 Official SEGA font has a different styled 3 because of legal reasons.
>>20038 Kinda fucked that a lot of people thought it was a hoax because it looked too good.
>>20039 Sad but accurate
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https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=09e4SXJimgg Just came across this, throw your opinions.
>>20041 Some people usually only bring up Archie Sonic's pre-reboot era solely to clown on it for being "so weird" & whatnot, but it's nice that a lot of people look back on that series with fondness & praising its high points. I'd like to see a part 2 that covered more of the post-reboot years because there was some stuff introduced in that period that doesn't get enough love, imo. Makes me all the more excited to make that Archie Sonic storytime thread here, as well.
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/02/sonic-went-super-in-early-movie-drafts-director-confirms/ >Super Sonic was almost in the movie Mad men. Although it probably would've been a bad idea to pull the trigger on that so early.
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>>20041 >40 minutes
>>19992 >what was the most recent Sonic game you've played? Rush, Colors, 3ds Generations, and Cronicles >Thoughts on it? I played rush adventure first, which I liked a bit more, but rush is fun so far. Colors is hard to get used to for me due to the lack of tricks like in rush, the same can be said about Generations. I've heard alot of bad stuff about Chronicles, and I can agree about the fighting being lackluster, but the story keeps me going.
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>>20048 Being Silver is suffering
>>20047 I like that music, sounds like something from an amiga demo >>20048 Ouch!
https://twitter.com/ThatSoni/status/1234177289207848967?s=20 So Pontaff are seemingly done with the games
>>20053 About fucking time.
https://cytu.be/r/8chanmania Can't wait to see Knuckles job again to Optimus Prime (At least he beat Cirno today)
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>>20055 Hey I got dubs and he won that round, but he's up against Mr Rogers, next round >>20053 >It's been about a decade 10 since they first wrote scripts for the games Just think about that for a minute: Roger has been voicing Sonic longer than any non-Kanemaru actor before him. I remember when the news about replacing the 4Kids cast was first teased before Colors' reveal as "franchise changing news".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjVoMM1UAqc Some of his videos are underrated give me a watch. >>20055 >>20056 nice
>>20048 I see nothing wrong. Marry the trap, Silver.
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>>20057 >give me a watch. give him a watch.* i meant him. oh god oh fuck Fuk u 8kun, i still can't delete post.
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>>20059 >>20057 Too late, I noticed! But I'll give it a watch later >>20054 Worth noting that they've only been localizers for most of their run on the Sonic games. As it stands, it seems like Eitaro Toyoda (former level designer turned Character Supervisor in 2010) is the guy you wanna point the finger at for some of the recent lackluster writing in the games.
>>20053 Good riddance. >Wrote the games "Sonic Colors", "Sonic Generations", […], "Sonic Team Racing" and probably a few I forgot Says how much he cared.
>>20060 It seems Toyoda comes up with the premise/plot outlines, while Pontaff came up with the jokes and one-liners
>>20062 In which case, depending on who replaces the, this could be some progress then! Obviously I wish the two well in whatever they do next, but they never really impressed me with their writing on Sonic so I can't say I'll miss them on the games.
>>20053 oof >>20060 >Sonic Forces (2017) — Writers Oh no >>20061 I'm mean Sonic Colors was ok. So that maybe they did at first.
>>20061 >>20053 I had to recheck that bit with Graff. He actually said that on his resume, I feel like I should be surprised, but wew. Wonder how much hate mail the duo have gotten over the years As for the mania, Knuckles is back to fight Mr. Rogers for one hell of a childhood battle: https://cytu.be/r/8chanmania
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>>20065 >Has wholesome moment with mr roger >even the worst of them think they are doing good >get needed therapy >then a clown fights rapist This is art
>>20066 Nice dubs. It has been a day for him so far, but it might end badly now that he'll have to fight Rance next. Can our boy make it for once? Stay tuned after the short commercial break to find out!
>>20066 >>20056 Bless that echidna
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>>20068 Indeed Now, it is here: 8chanmania
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>>20069 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa rapist won and there was no 3 countdown
>>20070 Yeah, but it was a good run for him regardless. At least he didn't die this time.
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>>20071 >At least he didn't die this time. at least dong kicked rapist's ass.
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>>20073 >Sonic X edits Not gonna lie, it' warms my heart to see these are still a thing in 2020.
>>20074 I just like the style a lot so I'm happy people are still doing them.
>>20073 That Sonic vs Shadow fight was such a waste. I hope we get a rematch now that zombot Shad is being controlled by the Zeti.
>>20076 Spoiler Alert Buddy!
>>20077 The comics are not nearly exciting or action-packed enough to have spoilers ruin the story.
>>20077 /r/ing Buddy holding a spoiler alert sign.
>>20078 For the most part I disagree, but Shadow turning Zombot happened months ago. Anon should keep up, tbh. >>20079 Heh!
Speaking of Buddy, do these other two (blue bird and pink cat) even have names or are they also technically called Buddy?
>>20081 Technically speaking, they could all be called Buddy. But for the sake of giving them unique names, I suppose they could be Gal & Pal
>>20081 Who even are they?
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>>20083 Very important characters
>>20083 Some of the custom character examples that was shown in ads for Sonic Forces.
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>>20085 >>20084 But of course, how could I forget…
>>20086 It's alright, I forgot about those guys sometimes myself.
>>20081 All called Buddy according to Steam trading cards.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKS4duPqNyo The more I listen to this song, the more I realize this is probably Shadow's best theme in the series. Not that I hate the ones he was given in his game, but Throw It All Away is just incredibly addictive.
>>20089 This, i wish they continued the more jazzy-ish rock for his game and themes.
>>20090 because that shit sounds like damn good villain music
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>>20089 I miss the Drum n' Bass they used to give him. White Jungle and Supporting Me are two of my favorite songs in the franchise.
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https://invidio.us/watch?v=d_76uz-JZDw >>20089 To this day I still don't know why they didn't just remix that for his evil route ending instead of going for Powerman 5000. Guess they really wanted to go whole hog on the edge.
>>20089 I think this kind of music worked well for the game, but I'm not a fan of the music itself at all.
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This is Bark. He is a bear. Say something nice about him.
>>20095 He looks sorta cuddly >>20093 >go whole hog Heh!
>>20095 He should have been in more games like a Fighters Mega Mix sequel
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>>20099 Ten. The immediate price without bids is $10,000.
>>20099 The amount of merchandise you could buy with 10 grand…
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>>20101 The amount of chili-dogs you could buy with 10 grand…
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>>20102 Sonic pls
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There's some stuff going on in twitter and people are posting tons of art.
>>20104 That stuff looks nice!
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Shadow a cute!
>>20106 True. If only Shadow wasn't a big jerk on top of it
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>>20107 Shadow isn't a big jerk. He's got a pure heart, he's a great guy deep down inside. He just has trouble showing it. On that note, Shadow is one of the most misunderstood characters in the cast. I'm convinced the people who think he's some heartless asshole haven't played many Sonic games.
>>20108 Or, ShTH killed his image. SA2 is 20 years old, and no one played the GBA Power Stone game or cared about 06 past surface value to care about Shadow's 3rd of the story. He's less misunderstood, moreso misused by SEGA and overrated based on headcanons around the character. You can pull that card on the entire cast since Colors, when Kishimoto took over the series, but as far as people are considered, Shadow's image alone ruined him. Maybe instead of designing him to be evil Sonic maybe people could see that "Sweetheart" said of him from a casual perspective It's like saying Mewtwo or Waluigi is "good" on the inside. They are designed to imply the opposite.
>>20109 Shadow was made to be a pure character, though. That's what Maekawa wanted when he created him. It's the whole point of SA2, which remains one of the most popular Sonic games to this day. Hell, the dude even uses "boku" as his personal pronoun. >I myself treated Shadow as an image that is a very subtle and pure character, this “boku” was a part that I could not throw away. I don't care about public perception, whatever. They can think what they want. But the fanbase should know better. You should know better. His design is meant to convey "he's evil Sonic" when in reality, that is most definitely not the case. I don't understand how people miss it, Shadow isn't a total jerk, and even someone with knowledge of only post-2010 Sonic media should be able to realize this. This isn't meant to be rude or condescending btw I'm just very tired of people misinterpreting Sonic characters.
>>20108 >Shadow isn't a big jerk You're right. He's a small jerk! For real some of the misunderstanding surrounding Shadow's character can also be attributed to Sonic media playing up his perceived role as "Vegeta of the Sonic series" in recent years. He's been a victim of misinterpretation similar to how Silver, Big or other characters are/were misinterpreted.
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>>20111 lel It makes me sooo frustrated though anon. Knuckles, Shadow, Silver…basically any character with a bit of nuance is misunderstood and butchered by the fanbase and even SEGA themselves. >durr Shadow edgy heartless jerk >durr Knuckles dumb stronk angry >durr Silver precious cinnamon roll I can't stand it aaaagh
>>20112 In all fairness, I've always been a bit partial to some of the lighter portrayals of Silver (like in the Archie Silver Age arc), but yeah, this is an unfortunate side effect of some of the inconsistent writing the franchise has undergone over the years. In some ways it can't be helped, with how much Sonic media has existed, how many different writers the franchise has had, but it does make me wish SEGA was consistent themselves in the games. Maybe having a level designer be the character supervisor of the series wasn't the brightest idea
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>>20111 >"Vegeta of the Sonic series" I blame the writers for that one. also nice get >>20112 >butchered by the fanbase Nah, maybe in early 2010's and late 2000's you would be right but the fanbase is somewhat more caring to the characters compared to the writers. >durr Silver precious cinnamon roll That only thanks to the writers on sonic team racing, people started seeing him like that, if you look at youtube there a few people out there praising and defending that puffball, and there others who like that newfound dopeyness in sonic team racing, because people saw that as a breath of fresh air for him, even it's out of character for him (in my opinion). >durr Knuckles dumb stronk angry Blame boom, although it's mostly just been shitposting for him. >durr Shadow edgy heartless jerk This, again i blame the writers and the same memes that some people have been farting out for years, using that as 100% actual passive aggressive criticism masked as a shitpost then just a shitpost.
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>>20110 >I don't care about public perception, whatever. They can think what they want. But the fanbase should know better. You should know better. His design is meant to convey "he's evil Sonic" when in reality, that is most definitely not the case. I don't understand how people miss it, Shadow isn't a total jerk, and even someone with knowledge of only post-2010 Sonic media should be able to realize this. >This isn't meant to be rude or condescending btw I'm just very tired of people misinterpreting Sonic characters. This, good post anon >>20104 Found some good sliver art.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdsL4kvp_I >>19911 > Feel bad for anon at the end, though. Me too, i honest was a bit piss off that video putted the world smallest violin clip because anon is goddamn right. except for the shitposting part, there not even shitposting anymore, 4/vg/'s /sthg/ mostly just been getting angry or horny at this point (from what the video has shown).
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>>20108 He's been heartless a few times before. Like that time in Sonic X where he let Chris fall to his death inb4 >sonic x
>>20118 Tbf it was Chris, he had it coming
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>>19983 Does that mean Tangle and Whisper could be added to the games if they wanted to? I never think they would as they tend to avoid that but it'd be fun to play as them. Maybe a spin off title? I'd even take a mobile game if it was decent.
>>20108 I find it kind of funny Shadow had a literal tsundere moment in JP SA2 followed by the standard reply of "you're not honest (with your feelings), are you?" by Rouge.
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>>20121 Good taste in fan art
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>>20121 Beautiful! Source? >>20123 He's a huge tsundere tbh.
>>20122 Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but from what I remember all the Sonic comic characters from Post-SGW Archie to IDW Sonic can be used by SEGA if they choose to use them. Funny enough, Tangle & Whisper were designed with having a gimmick that could be integrated into gameplay in mind.
>>20126 I'm not caught up on the comic, what would Whisper's gimmick be? Sniper?
>>20127 Sniper/Wispon user, yeah
>>20127 Weapon that changes forms based on Wisp.
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>>20130 Thank you friend
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I appreciate our MariaxShadow newcomers.
>>20133 I'm not a newcomer, I've just developed taste and realized that Shadow x Maria is the patrician ship.
>>20134 Well, that's still a good conversion
>>20134 >patrician ship Oxymoron if I've ever seen one.
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>>20136 Rude.
>>20133 Always fun to get newcomers. >>20137 kek
>>20137 I have never seen anything good come out of shipping.
>>20139 What about cute fanart?
>>20133 >MariaxShadow I don't like how that sounds >>20139 oof
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>>20142 nice
>>20141 Would you prefer Shadria, the coined term?

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>>20144 Is it Shadria, Shadaria, or Shadmari? I keep seeing people use different names for this ship.
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>>20144 No i prefer dark alien hedgehog with ptsd X dead corpse of a underage child
>>20145 I hope by ship you mean a friendship.
>>20145 Not them, but Shadria does admittedly roll off the tongue a bit
>>20147 this
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>>20123 Any links? I need to see that >>20142 >>20145 Really nice!!
https://twitter.com/tssznews/status/1234821824082477056?s=19 Tim Skelly, who was the special stage designer & art director of Sonic 2, has passed away.
>>20152 Rest in peace. I thought for a moment this was about the Archie artist
>>20153 Diana Skelly? Nah, they're fine. I wanna say they have some sort of job at IDW, but I don't know for sure.
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http://www.tssznews.com/2020/03/05/sonic-hacking-contest-2020-announced/ >The 2020 Sonic Hacking Contest has been announced. This year doesn’t have any massive overhauls like last year’s did, but there are a few differences. >There is now an extra week to make sure that Expo entries don’t sneak into the Contest division, and vice versa. >The trophy system overhaul that was introduced last year will be back, with some improvements, such as a few trophies that were removed last year being brought back. >There will no longer be off-site download links for entries. What you can download on the official SHC site will be hosted by the site’s servers. >The biggest change made this year is that the contest will now be happening earlier. Contest Week is October 26th-31st. This is due to the December date causing lower stream turnout, as well as a lot of the contest media team and staff getting sick during the holiday season. >There is now a rule to avoid submitting entries that are very difficult, such as Kaizo hacks, as well as “monotonous or off-putting” hacks.
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>>20095 You would make yourself a good boyfriend, big bear buddy.
>>20156 >Week of Halloween Sweet! Wonder if this means we'll get any spooky hacks because of it. >>20144 >>20145 Cute stuff
>>20156 Neat. I wonder if SAGE will have any changes or when it will start this year?
New IDW Sonic storytime! In which Sonic & friends are idiots >>20160
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>>20168 >Nope >No police That what they say before they shot her
>>20168 It's not right for siblings to love each other like that.
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>>20173 Is that actually official?
>>20173 Nope, fan made >>20096 Yeah, that pun was intentional on my part
>>20176 Anon…they're not siblings, their creator is a huge fan of the ship.
>>20108 Glad someone recognises that he was not completely intended to be the flat "Emotionless Broody Anti-Hero" cliché you see in some Japanese Animations. In fact, I've just finished reading the first part of the "Alternate Reality" fanfic trilogy. It's pretty amazing: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10541838/1/Alternate-Reality Short Summary: Shadow ends up in a coma from an Eggman attack. He accidentally manifests an Alternate Reality within the Red Chaos Emerald he had on him, and unintentionally temporarily transfers his consciousness in it (he's still alive in his own world). In the Emerald one, he was never awakened, nor found on the ARK, Tails met Amy instead of Sonic, Sonic's a rebellious ill-tempered thug who bullies his city every day in exchange for saving it, Rouge is 63'd, Silver's a psycho, Eggman's a more wiser villain, and Espio's the main blood-thirsty villain of this entire story (a Grade S for Socio-psychopath). There's more awesome changes, but that will spoil it. I recommend everybody here to read it (don't worry, it has nothing to do with butt-pounding).
>>20181 >There's more awesome changes But nearly every change you listed sounds horribly edgy and awful.
>>20182 >That's the point of the story. As the old saying goes, Don't knock it until you try it. I forgot to mention that Knuckles is a lot lazier and doesn't care about the Emerald at all, but any more than that information is too much. Just read it, and then tell me how awful it was (and this is coming from someone who expected the Sonic Movie to suck completely, despite the changes).
>>20181 Oh! I read that one awhile ago! thekyuubivixen is one of my favorite fanfic writers. It's awesome. They made two more continuing off of that one but imo they should have stopped at this one. >>20182 It's not bad, really. One of the better fics on that site.
Morning /fast/!
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>>20176 This >>20180 >but there step sis >creator was on Dateline NBC Then he big gay, she still a underage dead corpse who act like siblings I don't mind incest ships but no just no. Get your Alabama shit out of here.
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>>20181 >coma >Shadow can make alternate Reality >Shadow has god-like powers put a Alternate Reality in Red Chaos Emerald unintentionally >adv consciousness transfers theory >most of the main characters are different people at this point >characters take a full turn like becoming a psychopath Sound like fan-fic alright, it's the kinda stuff i never really liked even there's was one fanfic that was somewhat liked that
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>>20187 *liked, even if there's was one fanfic that was somewhat liked that i'm define have a soft spot for.
>>20185 after recent events pls don't nice art tho >>20188 Ok pedo. Horndog back at 4/vg/
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>>20190 what
Did I seriously just get called a pedophile for liking Shadria?
>>20181 I never read that fic, but your post reminded me of a quote that I think came from Maekawa. Basically talking about how he'd like to imagine that Shadow's "endgame" so to speak would be that several years into the future, feeling like he lived out Maria's promise he would return to the Space Colony ARK & go back into hypersleep. Sounds like a pretty sad ending for the character, but oddly fitting in a way.
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>>20192 Yeah I don't know what to make of that. However in other news, til the artists on a comic has more say over what happens in a comic than the writers or editors. And that The Slap is somehow Ian Flynn's fault
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>>20191 If this is the same poster of 20185, then you can just lurk through the posts here, you probably will understand what's going on but don't worry about it
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>>20192 Not my words, you're the one calling for a romance of a kid and 500-year old hedgehog
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>>20185 Cute. Also, morning.
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>>20195 >Yeah I don't know what to make of that. I mean it's no different when ken talked and went into detail about how his underage sally fucked
>>20198 Too be honest that art is much more cuter
>>20199 I mean, I don't want a part in the whole Shadria argument since I don't really care what people ship, so long as they're being respectful & not argue over it. But I will remind everyone that not only is Geoffrey St. John's kill count "classified" according to Ken Penders, but Ken also claims to have "secret classified information" that proves that Jon Gray & Ian Flynn are somehow at fault for one of the most infamous moments in Archie Sonic. Not the worst, the comic would go on to have far, far more damaging shit than that, but still one that left a big mark on Sally's character.
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>>20201 >I don't want a part in the whole Shadria argument More power to you >I don't really care what people ship Again, i don't care or mind if it's shit like incest ships or Elise x Sonic but don't ship kids with adults in a sexual/romantic way, that's just a disaster wanting to happen and it's equally creepy or suspicious as Ken Penders himself I just don't want /fast/ to become 4/sthg/ where everyone horndoging the child characters. >Geoffrey St. John's kill count "classified" according to Ken Penders >proves that Jon Gray & Ian Flynn are somehow at fault for one of the most infamous moments in Archie Sonic >but still one that left a big mark on Sally's character I'm somewhat happy that I've never got into into satam right now Even if i never really cared for her and thought she was overrated, i'm somewhat felling sorry for her on whatever this fanfic abomination is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNteN_qlHp0 >>20202 Also not so sure if i could trust ken, since there are rumors that he screwed Ben Hurst's pitch for a satam movie over for his own pitch of a satam movie and told Sega that ben was trying to co-op the franchise with satam and not to trust him. But if this is true, then oh shit.
>>20202 For the record, if that's what this is all about, I think you have nothing to worry about. Most of the horndogging from 4 is either shitposting or leftovers from the /spg/ general, not just people posting pics. And even if one of those posters land here, we got folks who can remove posts. Just relax a bit, is all I'm saying. >>20203 Less rumor, moreso fact. He went behind Hurst's back & pitched his own trash movie, which ended up tanking both projects. He even recently bashed Ben Hurst, despite the fact that the guy's been dead for 10 years & can't defend himself.
>>20202 >>20190 >>20197 Please, chill out. We get you don't like it already, but please don't make a fuss every time someone posts something you don't like, and in the event something really is out of line then report and ignore it.
>>20202 Just saying, this fanbase is 30 years old. You cannot control people having childhood crushes. Don't become a Pokefag if you are this upset over this shit when 99% of the cast is perceptually teenagers and Pokemon Masters basically weaponized it for horny adults too. Live and Cope, that's how you life smarter.
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>penders
>>20206 >You cannot control people having childhood crushes >childhood crushes >Live and Cope, that's how you life smarter. You have no clue what's going on do you. >>20205 >Please, chill out I was chill until things took a mildly disturbing turn >We get it Just like on how the other user was still on defending the ship, even though more then one user was told anon that was nasty and uncomfortable as all hell. >report and ignore it Sure, if the mods add to rules.
>>20207 >moreso fact >bashed Ben Hurst >despite the fact that the guy's been dead for 10 years & can't defend himself. Well that's sad, i'm taking this with a grain of salt even more now >>20207 >not penders
Okay, to change the subject, SXSW has apparently been cancelled. So whatever announcement SEGA was planning on making with the Sonic series will either wait until another event, or will be made whenever SEGA feels ready.
>>20210 Good, at this point i hope dev time is long as possible at this point .
>>20210 https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/1236095431190278145?s=20 >This week has been crazy, but good things to come. >We'll have an official statement on the SXSW cancellation (and our plans) soon over on @sonic_hedgehog!
>>20212 So I imagine we'll get either an official stream announcing everything that was set for SXSW, or they'll just casually drop the announcements.
>>20213 https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1236100389679722496?s=20 >We're sad to see SXSW cancel, but we respect the call and we're working hard to bring our Sonic Panel content to you all in a new format this April!
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>>20210 Aw come on, I was looking forward to the panel and the news. Doubt they'll wait for another even since that one will probably be cancelled as well. Literally everything has been cancelled. >>20213 Yeah, those are the options I guess. I imagine they'll go for a stream since they seem to have no problem making them and while that mostly works, it's still not as special as a actual panel in a convention. Also, >>20214 >tfw we'll have to wait one more month
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>>20210 >>20212 Thanks Corona-chan!
>>20215 Well in all fairness, if it was gonna be anything like the previous SXSW that had a big Sonic announcement, it was probably gonna be just the announcement of an announcement, rather than the announcement itself. So us getting something more substantial in April would be nice if they actually do that. More than anything, we're probably not gonna get like, a full game trailer until this June or July. If we're set to get a new Sonic title in 2021, summer would be the best time to reveal that.
>>20217 Actually now that I think about it, depending on what this "new format" for their Sonic Panel is, they may just do the trailer next month! Given the current state of things, there is no real guarantee that they could say, do the Sonic 30th anniversary event in June like they could in 2017. They could honestly spend the rest of the year hyping the next big game up. It would also have better timing since the success of the movie is still fresh in people's minds. Would be nice for SEGA to strike while the iron's hot so to speak, despite the massive negative of not being able to do it at SXSW.
>>20216 >that last one Very lewd owo
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Reminder that this is going on live right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGB2t6NbcyY
>>20220 Oh, right, I forgot that was happening today. To be honest though I only barely heard what it was about and had a hard time believing they actually re animated the whole OVA!
>>20220 They should probably have limited this to actually animated entries.
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>>20222 >They should probably have limited this to actually animated entries. Nah, what are you talking about this is rad. Although, if they would do that it would've been long to make. Unless you mean that type of animation like the last two in here, then that would've been the amazing
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>>20220 i think this is cool i havent seen it all yet
>>20210 Felt it was inevitable after a bunch of other events started to get cancelled. Wonder if the Olympics will get cancelled too. Which is kinda funny that SEGA went and made Mario & Sonic 2020 for it.
>>20208 Shadow isn't an adult. He's biologically 15, so I seriously don't know what you're so freaked out about. All I did was post cute pictures. I'd expect a reaction like this to come from tumblr or maybe even twitter, but certainly not here. I'm disappointed, I really am. >>20210 Seriously? It feels like forever since we've gotten actual news. Oh well, hope everyone stays safe. This virus seems to be pretty nasty.
>>20220 That KSP bit cracked me up.
>>20223 I think it's just cringe. There were some good animators that put in a lot of effort in there and I would have rather seen more of that. But yeah, it would have probably made it much harder to complete.
>>20220 IIRC, isn't someone doing a re-animation of Sonic X episode 5, or something? Pretty sweet seeing all these re-creation projects show up in the community lately. >>20226 Don't feel too bad about it, anon. On the brightside, this can hopefully lead to the announcement being a lot more substantial given the fact that a delay probably wouldn't happen for something run of the mill. And yeah, hopefully everyone stays safe since health matters more than anything else at the end of the day.
>>20229 >isn't someone doing a re-animation of Sonic X episode 5 Yeah! I've been looking forward to that for a while. Was surprised to discover someone was looking something so ambitious, and it seems to be animation only too! >delay 2020 is the year of delays. IDW gets delayed all the time, the annual got delayed too, SXSW got cancelled and the announcements delayed…
>>20230 >looking doing*
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>>20228 didn't the same thing happen with shrek retold it just feels wrong here cos the ova is genuine and less meta and stuff
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>>20232 Don't know, haven't watch shrek retold but I think it's the same team so it's likely a similar project with similar rules for submissions.
>>20233 watch shrek retold
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>>20234 Play Sega Saturn.
>>20235 on hardware or emu and what games
>>20236 You can't go wrong with either And given where we're at Sonic 3D Blast, R & NIGHTS Into Dreams!
>>20217 >it was probably gonna be just the announcement of an announcement, rather than the announcement itself Yeah, that's true, but it would at least have been something sooner and it would have gotten the ball rolling until they were ready to make bigger announcements. >we're probably not gonna get like, a full game trailer until this June or July I feel it's still way too early for a trailer, with more than a full year to go for the actual release. >>20218 >do the Sonic 30th anniversary event in June like they could in 2017 Yeah, we can probably kiss goodbye to events this year. It's a shame, but it could have also been worse, like if this had happened next year.
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>>20226 >le sonic hero age >reaction like this to come from dead site tumblr uuuu >>20228 >I think it's just a 2015 cringe compilation Nah, it still epic. Too be frank, there were good animators who had a good art style but the animation was crap and then there was this, something that's horrifying but you can tell that they took there time with it. I'm sure it's not straightforward as lot of effort.
>>20238 Yeah. It's a shame but one positive takeaway from it is that we won't have to worry about any dumb Q&As, like last time.
>>20240 >we won't have to worry about any dumb Q&As Sounds more like a concern for Sega than us.
>>20241 I suppose. But tbf, I've never been a big fan of the Q&As, so I'll take it as a win
>>20133 Maekawa has shown me the light. I'm not sure about the full logistics of it, but I enjoy the cute art. If the SA remake ends up being real I can only hope they bring him back for a SA2 one. Maybe if enough fans keep praising his content someone at Sega might notice. #BringBackMaekawa >>20145 Japanese fan artists use "Shadomari" (シャドマリ), while western fan artists like Shadaria. I think it's because the latter might sound odd in Japanese. (Shadoaria?) >>20151 https://youtu.be/NbhxkGJaOHU?t=1326 Windii's translation uses: "It wasn't because I wanted to save you. It was for the Chaos Emeralds." "Oh, you're so defiant." It still works, but usually the line for that trope is translated like the part I said before of "you're not being honest (about your true feelings)". But it's often used as a standard tsundere response like "i-it's not like I like you or anything!" "haha, you're not honest are you?". Original line for completion sake: 「ふん。別にお前を助けたかったワケじゃない。カオスエメラルドのためだ。」 「あーらら、素直じゃないわねー」
>>20194 There's actually an epilogue after that part. "What happens after 2006's story, huh? I haven't really thought about that. I guess he might continue to wander around the world and grant Maria's wish. Then finally, at long last at the end of that, he might end up going for a long rest in a capsule again… Hundreds of years later, he is awakened by someone seeking help. I wonder if the person who wakes him up is someone who resembles Maria?"
>>20243 >#BringBackMaekawa I never understood the fanaticism for Maekawa's writing. His stories were nothing to write home about.
>>20245 Maekawa wasn't a perfect writer, but I do feel like he really got a lot of the characters in the Sonic series. Not to mention, I always found some of the stories he wrote to be among my favorite in the games (SA2, Unleashed & Black Knight). He had his flaws, but his stuff was never boring imo. >>20243 >>20244 That's it, thank you! Tbh, if SEGA ever cared about exploring the future more than just Silver showing up, I would like a little animation of Shadow being awaken a few hundred years into the future.
>>20246 Well, not Unleashed, but you get the point
>>20245 What are your favorite Sonic stories? It'd be easier to talk if I knew what kind you prefer. >>20246 I guess I will try to explain why I enjoy his writing. Before that here is a list of games he wrote for: Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes (he noted levels came before story for this title), Sonic Riders (uncredited), 06 (most likely just Shadow's route), Secret Rings (uncredited), Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity, Black Knight (uncredited). (Note the lack of Shadow's game despite being a co-creator and his writer, he is only listed as "Development Support" there) I often hear people praise the writing of these titles in particular without realizing why they liked it, or why Shadow felt "right" in some games and "off" in others. One thing Maekawa has been honest about is his view on Sonic, and others have noticed that too. His Sonic has a particular slant to it, and you can see it most in SA2 and the storybook games. I'm not quite sure how to describe him, but many go with "shonen hero"ish. One main thing I like about Maekawa is despite SA2 being his first writing project for Sonic, it's not like he made everything about Shadow and ignored the rest. Everyone in that game has a moment to shine, and he had to introduce not just Shadow but also Rouge and other elements. He also did the storyboards which he said was rare for a writer to do both, and considering how bland the newer cut scenes look make it easier to appreciate. Some may complain about the anime inspirations, but I find it a bit odd when we've had that from the start and since (Silver being stated to have been inspired by Future Trunks from DBZ). What draws me to it is his characters all have their reasons for doing things and theme. (plus all the new elements SA2 had like G.U.N., the Ark, Gerald, etc.) Even games that were looked down on like Heroes, comparing the storyboards to the final result, it makes me wonder what else got changed or watered down. A simple one that stands out to me is in the storyboard for Team Dark's intro, Rouge finds Shadow after a long time of searching and looks pissed about what Eggman has done. In the final animation not only was the expression changed, but also the pose to make it seem like she doesn't care as much. Another comparison is 06's Sonic story vs Black Knight. Both involve Sonic hanging out with a human girl, but the latter feels more interesting in how it does it, and the ending felt earned too. Sorry if it's not in detail enough, but if I had to put a short reason it's that his characters feel alive. They have their reasoning and emotions on what they do, instead of later titles doing whatever they decide to even if it doesn't make sense. They have little character details that later titles lack. Honestly, I can't help but admire the way he views the series too. He said in an interview that his goal as a writer was to move people, and even if SA2 had it's flaws, I think he was able to do that for a lot of people. He hasn't written for Sonic since leaving in 2008, but he still cares enough to respond to fan questions and retweet fan art people create of Shadow over a decade later. I really just want to see more of what he has in mind, even if it was only for a single title or a spin off comic.
>>20246 this >>20243 >#BringBackMaekawa nah, i'm good
Imo, I'm in favor of him staying gone. I can appreciate what he has done for Sonic in the past, but much like with Taxman, Tee Lopes, Tyson Hesse and Stealth, new blood can ultimately do wonders for a series far far better than keep on asking for the return of "old masters". I think it's extremely unhealthy for a fanbase to keep foliating the old and needs to cope and demand more new. That's a far better way to move forward in life. To "Live and Learn" so to speak. For me, I would rather have a new writer that still gets Sonic like Maekawa did, but with newer, more in tune to the newer generation's tastes instead of keeping Sonic in the past. I've been 100% actively hating Sonic being stuck pre 2010's in terms of everything non story related, and his Colors era localization and direction has triggered so many storyfags that, in all do respect, can get in the way of better focuses on Sonic's gaming content. But I do agree if Pontaff is gone for good, it would be a good movement forward. But bringing old people back, much like how bringing back Crush 40 revealed how old they have gotten and their wimsy is clearlly fading compared to the 2000s, isn't the best thing moving forward. Tee Lopes is carrying Jun Senoue I feel, so a new writer that gets Sonic like Taxman got Sonic gameplay is something I would much, MUCH rather support. It allows proper growth of your series, and also allows for the newer blood to STAY longer instead of someone already nearing one foot into the ground.
>>20250 I can respect that mentality, tbh. As much as I love Maekawa, it has been over a decade since he last worked on Sonic & there should be an emphasis on bringing in more new young talent that can provide good things to the franchise. I also believe that people who can provide something quality should continue to do so despite their age, but at the same time, someone younger who can take what others have done before them & advance it makes sense, as well. Although granted, I dunno anyone who can do that, so
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl-P0QvBh_0 >>20250 Green Light Ride is great, though, and Jun Senoue improves anything he touches.
>>20250 >>20252 Senoue's kinda moved more to the audio engineer/sound directing role as Ohtani has taken over lead composing duties.
>>20250 >Tee Lopes is carrying Jun Senoue I feel How did you even get that feeling? >>20253 I used to love Ohtani, he used to compose amazing tunes but I feel it hasn't been the same in close to a decade now. Ultimately I hope this is because of the themes the new games have had rather than his own personal choice for music, but I don't know.
>>20254 I liked some of the songs Ohtani's done in recent years, but I was left a bit underwhelmed by some of the songs in the Forces OST. The Classic stuff especially, imo.
>>20250 I agree to disagree.
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Morning folks!
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>>20257 Morning'
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>>20257 Good morning anon. Don't forget to stay up to date with the news.
Today, March 9th, is Nigel Dobbyn's birthday. Rest in peace, dinosaur cowboy.
>>20260 That's a neat hedgehog. Rest in peace.
>>20254 >>20255 We need a proper multi-composer soundtrack again.
>>20262 I'd be down for that. If we get more than one playable character besides Sonic in the next game, I'd like a diverse soundtrack ala SA2.
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>>20265 Cute!
>>20265 Dumb pink hog. Flowers can't pose for a photograph.
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>>20267 I disagree, anon. After all, a rose is holding the phone!
>>20268 I guess she is quite a thorn in Sonic's side.
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>>20268 I needed that laugh
>>20269 If he was a bit nicer, Amy would probably be a bit more rosy Okay, I'm done
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>>20271 Stopping to smell the roses, huh?
>>20272 Rude! >>20273 Yes, but also I gotta sleep. Night /sthg/!
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>>20274 Night anon.
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>>20265 Why is she so photogenic?
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IDW #27 preview
https://animemojo.com/video_games/sonic-the-hedgehog-knuckles-solo-movie-reportedly-being-considered-at-paramount-pictures-a9519 >We may get a Knuckles the Echidna movie & Penders will never get to be a part of it Hell yeah
>>20277 She cute character >>20278 noice >>20279 >They are considering to milk this already C'mon man they can't be serious
>>20280 >She's cute Yes, yes she is. >They can't be considering milking it already Yes, yes they can.
>>20280 >C'mon man they can't be serious IIRC, there was already plans for 3 movies & an Eggman film too. We getting a Sonic Cinematic Universe, buddy.
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>>20283 fuck, meant to quote >>20278
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>>20285 It's the dumb bee!
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>>20287 As lol-worthy the idea of a Blue Zavok is, I'm calling bullshit on all of this. The "Penders is getting sued" thing sorta gave it away pretty fast, since SEGA has made it a point to ignore him & truth be told, he hasn't sold any products that opens him up for a lawsuit anyways. Funny enough, I remember a legit leak for Sonic Forces being posted here several years ago.
>>20288 It was leaked on this board? Now that I think of it, Forces was teased in 2016 and this site is 6, going on 7 years old now.
>>20289 Project 2017 & Mania was already announced by the time the post was made, but by that point, Infinite/Create a Character/Mania's ties to Forces wasn't announced. Here's the post, btw: >>947
>>20290 Archiving for posterity. The only thing wrong was that Flynn was writing, unless it was vague enough to refer to his involvement with IDW.
>>20291 His source could have told him Flynn was involved without actually specifying how, leading the poster to assume it was writing for the game.
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>>20290 No way, seriously? Wasn't there another leak somewhere else that anon could have been reposting? Nonetheless this is interesting shit, how didn't I know this before!
>>20291 I remember reading something that said Flynn was actually considered at some point early on but I have no source whatsoever. I think it was Sonic Retro, was in Japanese, and translated by Windii. I distinctly remember people complaining because they wanted Maekawa back instead of another Western writer like the ones who wrote the Boom games and Lost World >>20290 On the day of the 2016 anniversary party stream, some guy named Larry posted details to Sonic Stadium about the game which was still Sonic Wars at the time, though nothing of Infinite or tying to Sonic Mania. Just the avatar, part of the story where Tails thinks Sonic is dead and doesn't join until Sonic is saved, and Eggman winning
>>20294 Wasn't there an early script draft that featured Mephiles? I remember reading something like that. And yeah, I imagine that Sonic leaks would probably go for places like SSMB & whatnot, since there's not a big history of fake leaks unlike halfchan
>>20295 Yeah, there was a supposedly leaked script doing the rounds. I still have a copy somewhere. But I don't remember it mentioning anything about Mephiles. Also I don't remember when it leaked but I think it was after the game was released.
>>20296 >>20294 >>20295 Here's the supposedly leaked script provided by Windii: https://pastebin.com/vDubsVhN https://pastebin.com/kcEWtVR2 https://twitter.com/speepshighway/status/1007404002475200512?lang=en Features Mephiles as one of the copied enemies in the finale fight and The Phantom Ruby originally referred to as "The Valtron". Besides a few other changes and the lack of Episode Shadow's plot, apparently Infinite's origin was different along with a reason as to why the Ruby had different powers between games. The sequel hook was made later into production.
>>20297 >The Valtron Sounds like the name of an 80s mech I'm kinda disappointed we didn't get to see Mephiles, tbh. Not because I'm a big fan of him, but it'd be great to see more characters that don't get much use in the series.
Also with reports that E3 may be cancelled, guess we're gonna have to rely on whatever that new method of announcing Sonic stuff for news for the remainder of the year.
>>20299 I don't recall Sonic really having that much of a presence lately at E3 anyway. They can easily just drop gameplay or a trailer on their own channel or IGN or something.
>>20299 E3 has barely been anything in recent years, anyway.
>>20297 >The Valtron Lol, what a weird name. >>20300 Yeah, that's true, but just dropping a trailer on Youtube would be really lame.
>>20298 I can see why he was cut, he would have been extremely random considering he only shows up in that final cutscene. If mephiles was to be brought back, i can't imagine thats all he would amount to; i suppose it implies they were thinking of making the next game have him or something.or maybe DLC He could have been from an earlier draft or something though, like a null space boss or something. Its somewhat notable that not much is different even by that point, Mephiles just exists for no reason. Like no extra scenes like you'd expect.
>>20304 >Mephiles just exists for no reason. Like no extra scenes like you'd expect. Just like Metal, Chaos, and fake Shadow, so not really surprising. The only villain to get a bit more exposure outside of Eggman and Infinite was Zavok.
>>20306 While true, even they get "highlights"; metal is a boss, shadow gets a cutscene and Chaos gets to sorta feature in the most striking stage of the game. Mephiles flat out doesn't exist before this point, and the "even Mephiles" thing makes it sound like he had to have done something at the very least.
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>>20297 As a note here's proof in regards to the proto rubies being blue at one point. Since thats mentioned in the script. >>20307 As an obvious point, you'd expect an early script to contain larger ideas for obviously rushed concepts like the illusion enemies. The final product is clearly a case of rushing, not intended malproportion. However this is clearly already based on what they expect they can do, Infinite's maybe not-Null Space definitely doesn't exist by this point. The green hill concept art isn't around.though that ones more of a crapshoot, at least not null space has leftovers Classic sonic has been shoved in even if not all the tie in elements have been implemented yet.this script was made a year after mania started development after all The final is clearly a gutted version of this with the tie in done fully. Say now that i think about it, didn't this script have some comments to go with it? Like comments that clearly pointed at issues with the script.and that they ignored 2014-2015 forces really seems like an interesting topic in regards to a lot of things, probably before they knew what they were limited to and no shoved in tie in. I wouldn't be shocked if little of the actual game existed by that point, but from a concept view it seems that Forces probably went through a lot. I remember Lizuka mentioning that at one point Buddy was considered too much of a main character and was given less importance in the final. Notably despite being mentioned in that script the death egg/eggmanland lack any concept art thinking about it. Wonder what kind of concept art got held back.of course i could just be overestimating how much was made for early forces.
>>20308 >Lizuka Stop that.
>>20309 You can't stop me from doing dumb shit while barely awake. Unironically a typo though, not my memory fucking up.
>>20309 >>20310 Lizuka the Iguana will now be my new Sonic OC.
>>20308 >Say now that i think about it, didn't this script have some comments to go with it? Like comments that clearly pointed at issues with the script.and that they ignored Yes, I think I remember something to that extent. I think the comments were from Webber, though I don't remember if the comments themselves leaked or the leaker just made comments about some of Webber's comments. How legit is that script anyway? I mean I know what the tweet says but is that trustworthy?
>>20308 Fuck, I'm still salty that Green Hill & Null Space level never became a thing in the final product. I remember the CaC was supposed to have more options than what we got too. Sonic Forces had so many cool ideas that I wish were better utilized.
>>20313 >Sonic Forces had so many cool ideas that I wish were better utilized. Sadly, you can say this about most Sonic games.
>>20314 Sadly. It's a shame too, because I don't see SEGA going back to the concept of a game where Eggman won & that would've made for a great title.
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Holy shit, someone actually bought these, and by using the buy it now for the full 10 grand no less, seems they were scared someone would pay even more in the auction?
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>>20215 Hey, that's a nice cute walrus you have got there, buddy.
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>>20312 The webber one was a excel document like the 06 one. Which makes sense as a physical draft wouldn't have such comments on it. While i can find signs of a full leak, i can't find of case of those not being taken down. So its pretty much a case of trust.
>>20319 >That last comment Heh. Ya know it would've at least made sense in Forces with Sonic & co. fighting the replicas of Eggman's Army but I don't remember if they were all defeated or not by the time you fight the last boss of the game.
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Hello /fast/. Someone translated Dash & Spin Chousoku Sonic Chapter 17, and it's so cute, I just have to share it here~
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>>20322 >>20323 >>20324 >>20325 I love this. Wish we got more english translations of Dash & Spin, it always seemed pretty amusing to me
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GO SEGA
>>20327 Honestly, I hope this "Zombot Arc" ends with Sonic having to decide whether to save Eggman from an Angry Mob (and risk his entire reputation along the way), or just let him be Lynched on the spot (lead by a cured Shadow of course). If it comes down to it, what would any of you pick?
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>>20328 Lynched. I really want to know how Sonic would defend him again after all they've been through following world conquest then roboticizing everyone almost back to back. Eggman will probably find some way to escape during all the chaos and may operate in the background once all is said and done. Do you think Shadow has learned his lesson about infections if they had to face the Corona virus next?
>>20327 >white on Silver's cheek Is he infected or is that just shading? >>20328 I feel letting him be lynched would contradict his character so I would choose not to force an ending like that, but some level of retribution would feel good. Honestly, I think they let things get way too bad in hopes of creating tension, but it hasn't really worked for me and now the conclusion is probably going to disappoint because there's no satisfying method to end arc. >>20329 >Do you think Shadow has learned his lesson about infections if they had to face the Corona virus next? They characterize him as very hotheaded and foolish, so I don't think so. I'm not a fan of this.
>>20330 >I think they let things get way too bad in hopes of creating tension I agree. This is, what, the second major arc of the comics? In this, alone, we've had: -several major characters "dying" -a near total apocalypse -Sonic's decision to be a nice guy getting questioned by several of the good guys -Sonic close to "death" and constantly getting closer -pretty much every shred of hope getting torn apart And, to top it all off, the big finale is a fight with the fucking Zeti, unless they pull a dumb twist on us once Sonic goes super. Isn't this supposed to be a kids' comic about a blue hedgehog with an attitude that likes to run fast? I feel like Flynn is beginning to forget that and is trying to go too big, too serious, too quick. Where exactly does he plan to go from here? Eggman has done practically the most heinous thing possible short of allying with Satan himself, all life on the planet has come to the precipice of complete annihilation to a near indestructible threat, and Sonic himself is full of self-doubt and nearly became a goner. What is going through everyone's heads at IDW?
>>20331 Probably blue balls after the lackluster execution of Eggman having taken over the planet in Forces. Sonic actually felt down compared to how he was after being taken out of commission for 6 months.
>>20331 >I feel like Flynn is beginning to forget that and is trying to go too big, too serious Which is ironic, because it's true yet the comic has shown a lot of resistance to doing exactly that by focusing too much on action and being as shallow as it could, probably in hopes of appealing to kids as much as possible. Nothing really feels engaging or memorable to me, they just keep creating more awful situations one after the other and it doesn't feel like there's anything of substance behind it for me to care, it just feels cheap, like that time they shoehorned Team Dark dying in Archie because they just felt "someone had to die lol." >Where exactly does he plan to go from here? Seems the arc is going to abruptly finish by some magic plot device and then I think they'll move on to some entirely new arc that doesn't really take advantage of almost anything that came before. I get the feeling they're going to start handling this more and more like the games.
>>20331 While I do think there's something to be said for how much has happened on the second arc of the comic, I don't see much issue with where they go from here once the arc is actually over. The relationship between Eggman/Starline is dead, Sonic will most likely be vindicated in his belief of letting Mr. Tinker go & they seemingly set up something in the future that will have Eggman face the possibility of helping people again in the last few issues, so we'll more than likely see these elements explored post-Zombot arc. And with the plotline of the Warp Topaz possibly fucking up space-time I kinda have a feeling they might tie that into a crossover story in the future >>20333 Oh, it's absolutely handling things more like the games. Ian's always had his flaws as writer even during my favorite runs of his, but IDW is the most hands-on SEGA has been on a Sonic comic & IIRC, they've even helped Ian on ideas for plots & whatnot. So the comic won't be 1:1 with the games, but it'll definitely be more like it.
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>>20324 >squatting WE SLAV HOGS NOW >>20322 Lol, I have no idea what that was but I like jap comics, I've always hoped more stuff would get translated. Assuming it's jap, I've actually never heard of this before somehow! Thanks for posting!
>>20335 Squatting is also a thing heavily associated with Japanese highschool delinquents.
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>>20337 Cute deer >>20335 Yeah, Dash & Spin was a pretty obscure Sonic manga from the mid-2000s. I don't know how many have been translated, but I do know that's not the case for the majority of the series. Hell, I remember reading something that some issues weren't even scanned.
>>20322 First time I ever heard of this. Never knew there was another manga like this. I just love the facial expressions there, reminds me of the toony vibes Fighters gave.
>>20324 >>20325 I really like this interpretation of Shadow just being happy to find someone like him. It makes sense, Maria and Gerald were pretty much the only people he knew, and both were normal humans. Finding another cocky hedgehog that could run fast would be a godsend for someone like him that had few friends.
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>>20346 Thanks anon


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