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Anonymous 08/30/2023 (Wed) 20:05:22 No. 25624
IDW Sonic Storytime #3 Starting with Sonic the Hedgehog: Endless Summer!!!
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>>25628 Thats all
>>25629 This was like some sort of weird fanfic. >>25626 I want a chao diorama like that though.
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Double Storytime today!!!! IDW Sonic 64# and Sonic the Hedgehog's 900th Adventure!!! Starting with 64#
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Now with 900th Adventure
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>>25650 That's all!! Thoughts?
>>25635 >fonseca That name kind of rings a bell and I'm not sure why. Something related to The Ride I think? >>25637 This has got to be some of the poorest writing in a sonic book in a long time. It's like all the creativity went away and was replaced by IRL inspired drama. >>25639 When is she eating the cake? They've been holding a cake slice literally the whole issue.
>>25637 >>25652 Silver should just let Mimic carry out a pogram on all the OC characters.
>>25637 Also I really like the whole <Whisper it's OK I know it's hard for you I'll support you >Silver you're off the team
>>25637 Couldn't Silver have just grabbed him?
>>25655 Yes. Everyone's acting retarded. If this little story arc doesn't at least have some neat twist to it I'm going to be completely annoyed. Something like Mimic is somehow possessing an innocent cat or that he's intentionally creating a Mr. Tinker type alternate personality and when he's in the zone he's really become Duo. Something other than everybody juggling the conflict ball and the stupid ball at the same time. And like why isn't Silver being trusted more anyway? That's a whole 'nother issue. He's participated in multiple heroic acts and even co-responsible for saving the world just a few months/years before. Why is this random fucking sheep treating main characters like shit? Not just Silver either.
>>25656 >And like why isn't Silver being trusted more anyway? That's a whole 'nother issue It seems it's the running gag with Silver in the comic, he's always portrayed as fucking things up and then exaggerating the situation and sobbing. It's boring and annoying. >Why is this random fucking sheep treating main characters like shit? Not just Silver either. I think it's a shame they ended up giving her such an excessively strong personality. It can feel a bit out of place and ruins the nice character design.
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Sonic the Hedgehog: Amy's 30th Anniversary Special storytime!!!
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>>25665 That's all for today!!! Thougths?
>>25642 How do you go from >we'll find where it goes and put it there to >I'm gonna grab it right now and see what happens lol >sonic goes back to GHZ for the 900th time this is probably more ironic than they realized. >the art style completely changed that's really fucking cool. Is that the dragon from Unleashed? What about the cars? >pink hedgehog hug cute >>25645 >big oof this upsets me probably more than it should. >>25648 Strictly speaking, shouldn't Sonic be in the wacky art style and Tails in the regular style due to being far away from the topaz and not being affected by it? >>25651 It was okay. It had its moments, and the art style switch was pretty clever, though the whole idea could have been explained better. Would have been cool if they used the Riders art style for the last part, not just because of it being fitting but also because it's a great fucking art style.
>>25660 So they're calling Fang a hunter now? >>25662 Bark is kinda fun. I've always wanted to see him explored more in the old comics. >>25664 Same thing with Bean. Bean is fun. >>25666 Eh. Nothing special nothing offensive. Felt a bit like the 900th adventure story where they wanted to give everyone a tiny bit of the spotlight.
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Double Storytime today!!!! IDW Sonic 65# and Sonic the Hedgehog: Halloween Special!!! Starting with 65# And as bonus the promotional comic for Superstars: Fang's Big break
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>>25674 Moving to Sonic the Hedgehog: Halloween Special
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>>25682 And now for the last: Fang's Big Break
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>>25684 And that's all for today!!! Pre Order Superstars or not!!! i don't care.
>>25670 >is maintaining your warrior's pride really that important? <yes kek >>25671 annoyed and frustrated eggman is fun >>25672 Vanilla gives off such good vibes all the time. I like how they're portrayed usually in a consistent manner and in beautiful/comfy locations. It's a shame their shit always gets ruined. It probably makes sense to them that they need to cause some sort of conflict, but usually I feel it'd be more interesting if they didn't. >>25674 >rik feature I've said it before but damn, I still can't believe he actually got this far. Faggot should have put a Bump cameo in the comic already.
>>25676 >isn't that tails's plane holy shit are you kidding me? >>25677 I kinda like that villain's character design. >>25680 Man, I want some gemstone candy. That looks great, how did no one think of this before? >>25681 That was pretty gay honestly. >>25683 So they did change his name. The explanation they give makes sense but I still hate it. The art here is pretty good though. >>25684 Holy shit is that a big flicky? That's pretty cool. >>25685 That was actually okay. I haven't been keeping in the loop and completely forgot about about Superstars. Hope it does well, though from the pics I remember seeing it didn't look so hot.
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IDW Sonic 66# Storytime!!!
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>>25693 That's all for today
Is it me or is there just an insane amount of uncharacteristically stupid choices being made in the Restoration right now?
>>25695 >hesse I forgot all about this nigger. A few years back he was involved in a ton of Sonic stuff but I don't remember hearing about him in a long time. Is he still involved? Also holy shit, I never noticed Starline only wears one glove. I think it's because the fingers are completely featureless but still.
>>25696 They apparently don't have any kind of intelligence division at all. Archie Sonic had Harvey Who & co., but here apparently Eggman is the only one who bothers to maintain a database of persons of interest. Is Jewel just naive, or does she not even know who Clutch is? Did Mimic even need to come up with a cover story, or can literally anyone show up at Restoration HQ and get a job there? (An "if you have a pulse you're in" policy would've made sense when the Resistance was taking heavy casualties; did Amy never bother updating it? ...I'm putting more thought into this than the writers did, aren't I?)
>>25692 The stupid coat Clutch uses ruins an otherwise ok design. So what was his actual goal? Get Knucles out of Angel Island to steal something else? Have them create a distraction at Eggman's base? Get the Chaotix to arrive late at Vanilla's house so that the skunks could steal Gemerl? That would make sense considering that his company was doing something related to old Eggman tech, but it didn't sound like they knew of him. Perhaps keep the Chaotix busy while he infiltrated the Restoration HQ, since they're the ones that know of him? The Cream story makes no sense at all.
>>25707 I assumed Rough & Tumble were acting on their own. They explicitly had no idea who or what Gemerl even was, so they can't have been looking for him. Not sure what Clutch was up to. The main plot points I'm aware of are that Mimic (as "Duo") landed a temporary position as Jewel's assistant after the fight with Silver (which presumably helped Clutch get the meeting with her), and that the Chaotix were deliberately tipped off to the Babylon Rogues' location. The logical deduction would be that Clutch had something else planned to happen at the same time, and arranged a decoy to eliminate the possibility that the Chaotix might stumble across it, but exactly what he'd planned is unknown.
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IDW Sonic 67# Storytime!!!
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>>25716 That's all for today
Y'know, it took me this long to realize, but Clutch's corporation shares a name with Operation: Clean Sweep from the Archie comics. Just a coincidence?
>>25711 The Restoration HQ is gonna get trashed again isn't it? That looks like one tasty chilidog. I could sure as hell have one like that right now. >>25715 Yeah, it's gonna get trashed. >>25712 >she didn't even let them finish their phrase rude >should I make your tails match RUDE >>25717 It was a fairly interesting issue, thanks for storytiming. >>25718 I may not have read that story. What was it about?
>>25719 >I may not have read that story. What was it about? After recovering from insanity, Eggman invents the Genesis Reactor and starts rewriting reality. Super Sonic retcons everything back to mostly normal, but in the process the blue Chaos Emerald ends up in the Mega Man comic, which leads to the Eggman/Wily teamup and the Super Genesis Wave/big retcon.
>>25720 Oh, that story. I really need to read Archie Sonic in whole one day. So far nothing here seems to have much relation to that, but the idea that Clutch's company starts mixing Eggman tech ambitiously and carelessly and starts creating monstrosities that go out of control is super interesting. It'd be a great opportunity to get creative and come up with new, unexplored situations. Shame that it's guaranteed we're going to get something much more boring.
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IDW Sonic the Hedgehog: Winter Jam storytime!!!
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>>25731 End Happy holidays!!!
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>>25727 They really gave this guys wife absolutely fat hookers. Good for him. >>25729 Oh dang I just saw a video of the Sonic cookbook the other day and I recognize all the food from it in that panel, what a neat reference.
>>25698 >>25692 >>25707 So what happens if Rouge, Shadow, or even Cream walk into the restoration base at any point? They know who Clutch is and what he's about.
>>25739 Those three don't do a whole lot of work with the Restoration under normal circumstances, so they probably wouldn't show up. Amy is the biggest threat; she's naturally going to spend a lot of time in Restoration HQ, and she's not likely to have forgotten Clutch trying to kill her. (If I had to come up with an answer for that problem, I'd go with part of the intel Clutch acquires from Mimic being Amy's schedule, so that he can avoid encountering her. That's just me rationalizing, though.) I could maybe see Tails deciding to look into Clean Sweep, Inc. and remembering Rouge mentioning Clutch's name, but that's kind of unlikely. Rouge could probably figure most of the situation out on her own, but she probably wouldn't interfere unless she somehow learns that Clutch isn't just running an Eggtech black market and intends to completely wipe out the Restoration. He'd also be known on sight by Gemerl and the Chaotix (and maybe Omega if he got a clear look at Clutch while Shadow was kicking him), but they're not full-time Restoration members either.
>>25740 I wonder if Clutch could actually talk his way out of being in trouble with Amy? He could tell her that he'd assumed she was just some criminal accomplice of Rouge's instead of the (at the time) leader of the Restoration, and pointedly ask why she stole parts from him instead of just buying them like an honest person. Amy wouldn't really have a good answer for that; she was just blindly following Rouge at the time. The only other reason she'd have to dislike him, assuming she didn't hear from the Chaotix about his smuggling operation, was that he'd been keeping Chao in cages. He could just say that it'd been a temporary measure because he was afraid they'd be stolen; if Amy was still off-balance from the part theft bit she probably wouldn't even question it. Clutch might actually be able to successfully demand payment for the stolen parts, which would be hilarious, although he'd probably go with the smarter play of building goodwill by dropping the matter. He could have Amy unwittingly running cover for him right up until he sent the kill order.
>>25735 These are great, only good thing about the issue. >>25737 >They really gave this guys wife absolutely fat hookers. Good for him. I also noticed. Kinda odd considering just how hard they try to hide boob bat's boobs.
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IDW Sonic 68# Storytime!!!
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>>25749 That's all for today
>>25749 Wait so they're putting the main series on pause while they do the nack mini series? That's weak as all hell.
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>>25752 Dang, I missed that bit. >for the next few months Gonna be a while before the next part of the Clutch Saga, then. Well, at least there'll be more Bean the Dynamite. (Also, maybe a few months will give them enough prep time to paper over any plotholes that they've overlooked in the main story.)
>>25753 >at least there'll be more Bean the Dynamite Yes, that's a good point, but still. How come Archie Sonic performed a lot worse than this comic yet they managed to get 2 series running at the same time plus a mini series here and there? This is pretty lousy. >maybe a few months will give them enough prep time to paper over any plotholes that they've overlooked in the main story Fat chance. I just know the story ending will be disappointing.
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>>25754 >Fat chance. I just know the story ending will be disappointing. Well unless Mimic pulls a "Johnny Lightfoot" on one of the Restoration members or something like that.
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IDW Sonic the Hedgehog: Fang the Hunter storytime!!!
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>>25762 That's all for today!!! Thoughts so far?
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>>25763 >Thoughts so far? It did, in fact, contain Bean the Dynamite. His bombs look kinda oddly two-dimensional, though. Is the "eighth Chaos Emerald" bit a reference to something? My Sonic autism fails me.
>>25766 It's seemingly a reference to how the Chaos Emeralds don't always have consistent colors. When they describe it and mention many different colors it might be, those are all colors that only appear in one game (or maybe two. Not sure). Also, in Sonic the Fighters, notably one of only three appearances of Fang, there are eight Chaos Emeralds. Of course every fan would surely just squint and headcanon it that one of them is actually the Master Emerald, and it seems like that guess is also mentioned here. Of course, for the story, they clarify that he's not talking about the Master Emerald. Surely at the end of the story it will turn out there was no eighth Chaos Emerald. If we're lucky it will be the Phantom Ruby, but that's also highly doubtful. It will probably just be nothing, and Fang was tricked.
>>25760 >bean swimming like a duck in the river lol >>25761 Are the stories mentioned here from Fighters or some other part of the franchise or are they made up? They always reference real things when they do this kind of thing so I feel pretty stupid I'm not recognizing them. >>25766 Bean makes this interesting, which I'm not sure is good since he's just a lolrandom character. >>25766 I feel it's not the first time I hear about it. I think it's kind of a meme because the depiction of the emeralds has been inconsistent. In the first game there are only 6. >>25770 >It will probably just be nothing, and Fang was tricked. >mfw they make a whole mini series and it's all based around something they never intended to deliver in the first place I'd believe it.
>>25772 >Are the stories mentioned here from Fighters or some other part of the franchise or are they made up? They're from other issues of the IDW comic. I don't recall precisely which ones, but they're specifically ones that feature the "Classic" characters. So you can look those up. Also this means that they're treating the "Classic" stuff as just the past of the main timeline, rather than an alternate timeline. Of course, in one way, that makes the most sense. In a more pedantic, autistic way, it doesn't, because Modern Sonic doesn't remember fighting the Time Eater in Sonic 1 (as happened in Generations, but not in Sonic 1), and he didn't meet Tails while fighting the Time Eater with his future self, and he didn't get warped to the future/alt future again and experience Classic Sonic's version of Forces, which means he didn't experience Mania, since Mania connects directly to Forces, both regular Mania and Encore Mode. Of course, that's autistic, and obviously "Classic Sonic" stories should be treated the same as the past of Modern Sonic. But this is technically the first time it's been confirmed that the Hard Boiled Heavies exist in the main timeline, which means something akin to Mania happened in the past of the Modern timeline. But it can't be Mania exactly, because Forces takes place in the middle of Mania, between regular mode and Encore Mode. Unless we say Modern Sonic actually did experience Forces from Classic's POV as well, and just never mentioned it. It would be slightly different since Classic remembers meeting the Modern characters before, and Modern definitely never did Generations from Classic's POV because Classic's POV of that means he experiences Sonic 1 and meeting Tails differently than happened in the actual games. But uh... I guess we should assume as much of Classic happened in Modern as makes sense, with as few changes to the "Classic timeline" we see as possible. And to be clear, the "Classic timeline" is actually not the old games. The old games are the Modern timeline, however, we are clearly meant to assume (almost) all the old games also happened in the Classic Timeline, but Sonic 1 (specifically the part of Sonic 1 where you complete Green Hill and the Time Eater doesn't show up) and part of the backstory to Sonic 2 (meeting Tails) would be slightly different, because of things that happen in Generations. But I guess we're supposed to assume that aside from those specific differences, everything else happened as closely as possible to the games, even if not exactly. >In the first game there are only 6. The seventh was found on Westside Island, from Sonic 2, which happens to be the original home of the Emeralds, AKA where the Echidnas lived, AKA the island where the Mystic Ruins and Station Square are. Note that the other games which take place before Sonic 2, like Sonic 1 8-bit and Tails Adventures, also only have six chaos emeralds. (Sonic 2 8-bit also arguably takes place before Sonic 2 16-bit, as well. So does Sonic & Tails, AKA Sonic Chaos, as well as Sonic Drift and some other games which don't have much story or don't feature the Chaos Emeralds at all.) So Sonic 2 retconned the number to be 7. Note that people use the word "retcon" to mean "ignore previous continuity," but that isn't what it means, it means new info was revealed, so the old stories are canon, but now you learned new context. There was an extra emerald they didn't know about before, and it was discovered in Sonic 2. However, Sonic & Tails 2, AKA Sonic Triple Trouble, also only has six chaos emeralds. So does Sonic Drift 2. I guess there we can assume Eggman just wasn't going for the seventh one. He got lazy or impatient. Sonic Blast only features one chaos emerald that gets broken into pieces. The others aren't part of that story. Sonic Spinball features a ton of Chaos Emeralds, but that game is arguably not even canon because it features cameos from characters from the cartoons and seems to take place in the SatAM continuity. But Sonic the Fighters actually does have eight chaos emeralds. The immediate fan reaction would just be to pretend one of them (presumably the one Knuckles has) is actually the Master Emerald, but the game never says that, and no other later piece of media has gone back and said that was the case in Fighters. It's a mistake that's never been addressed, but given Bean and Bark are exclusive to that game (as far as Sonic game appearances go) and Fang is also in that game, this eighth chaos emerald is likely primarily a reference to Fighters, but with other references thrown in as well.
>>25773 >They're from other issues of the IDW comic I was afraid of that. I feel like I should remember them, then again this shit has been running for like 6 years already.
>>25773 See this is the problem with SEGA demanding a "one cannon, one timeline" thing.
>>25773 I'd just assumed that the "Classic" stories were supposed to be an alternate reality, like Archie Sonic's "Another Time, Another Place" stories.
>>25781 I think it's way better to just say it's all canon. In fact, I think they should go further and do some autistic comic to say that all the previous cartoons and comics are also canon. But one step at a time. The fact of the matter is that people saw these games/comics/cartoons. They're out there. They were official. As for Classic Sonic, it's fucking stupid to treat it as a different character, even though it technically is. But that's following the letter of the canon and not the spirit. Classic Sonic is obviously intended to be Sonic in the past, even though that technically doesn't make sense. Again, if Sega was smart, they'd let Flynn or whoever do a short story establishing definitively that Classic Sonic is exactly the same as Modern Sonic's past except for the times he met Modern Sonic. I'd say they should go further and say that Modern Sonic experienced something very similar to Sonic Mania, fighting the Hard Boiled Heavies, only without the time travel tie-ins to Sonic Forces. Or hell, I guess you could even say Sonic did experience Sonic Mania in the past and travelled to the future of Forces and met his future self. Sonic's the type of character who wouldn't even talk about that because it's just one more adventure among many. Really, the only thing that doesn't work between Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic explicitly is that Modern Sonic didn't experience Classic Sonic's point of view of Generations.
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IDW Sonic the Hedgehog: Fang the Hunter #2 storytime!!!
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>>25792 That's all for today
>>25788 I have a sudden urge to play S3&K again. >>25791 I'm not a fan of them making Knuckles an idiot but the graphic and primitive reasoning is funny. >>25793 This format where each story is independent and disconnected from each other is boring. And going through that just to have a 2 second inconsequential conversation with knuckles is boring. These are pretty shallow and boring.
I wonder how many issues it'll be before we get back to the other comic, in which I can only assume will culminate in Mimic pulling a Diavolo and trying murder literally every Sonic character that knows that he exists?
>>25795 Well, Eggman already hot a hold of them, so it feels like it won't be too long. Where else could they go after that in terms of plot if not an ending? Outside of a much larger arc I guess but I don't think they'd be doing that.
I wonder if any of this will be referenced in the present of the comics. If it's supposed to be "Classic," but they're trying to downplay how "Classic Sonic" was technically a split timeline, then okay, this happens shortly before Adventure, but it would be cool if Flynn had things that happen here become relevant to the next story arc that takes place years later. I mean, I'd much rather an arc about Fang than about all the OCs, which is what we are getting otherwise. Then again, it's also very strange that we still haven't gotten any references to Frontiers. It sort of made sense to hold off on it until all the DLC was out, since it was story-related, but now it's out. So it's strange that they haven't referenced it as having happened. They keep saying these comics are supposed to actually fit with the games, but they aren't taking advantage of that. Also, I just realized Flynn probably invented Sage as some sort of counterpart to Nicole, if not an outright replacement. Of course now that she is sort of popular, I doubt he can just use her however he wishes, but it is yet another example of him making a new character that is clearly "inspired by" an OC from an adaptation he isn't allowed to reference anymore. Would it be cool if Sage fought Nicole? Maybe. But then modern Flynn would probably just have them go out on a date or something.
>>25797 >I wonder if any of this will be referenced in the present of the comics. There's no chance Iizuka would approve that. Unless he's on crack, then crossovers and references are okay. >but it would be cool if Flynn had things that happen here become relevant to the next story arc that takes place years later That's actually a pretty cool idea that could open up lots of interesting scenarios and allow for creativity to be injected into the stories, but it feels like they're against most of those things. >But then modern Flynn would probably just have them go out on a date or something ... We need some drawfags
>>25797 >Also, I just realized Flynn probably invented Sage as some sort of counterpart to Nicole, if not an outright replacement. Wait, then I remembered that Eggman already had a "robot daughter" in the Archie comics. Her name was mecha. Same premise but she was more evil and wasn't a loli. Flynn didn't create her but did like her enough to try to make her death relatively memorable when he was ordered to kill her off. I disagree with his like of the character, though. She was pretty lame, and they should have followed through with the Mecha Snivley they hinted at at the time instead. Or just plain use Metal Sonic, which is what they would do later. But now I realize Flynn was probably bringing back the concept of Mecha, a character he liked but was forced to kill off. Also, Mecha was a stupid name, given how many Mecha-(Protagonist) names are already in the series. There were already three Mecha Sonics in the games, and even if only one of them had appeared in the comics, and they called him Silver Sonic instead, they fucked up because they called Metal Sonic Mecha Sonic for like 150 issues, and they also use Mecha Sonic to refer to Sonic when he gets roboticized. Then the same thing happens to Knuckles, creating Mecha Knuckles, which is different from the Mecha Knuckles in Sonic Advance 2, which is different from the Metal Knuckles in Sonic R. There was also Mecha Sally, from the first aired episode of SatAM, though they don't call her that explicitly, I think. It would later make more sense to call that one Metal Sally, since she's a robot duplicate and not a roboticized version, and the comics seem to use that naming scheme, but early on they just say everything is Mecha. Also later Sally gets roboticized and they call her Mecha Sally. The point is, Mecha is a stupid name for a character in a series where there are many characters with "Mecha" used as a prefix in their names.
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>>25805 Yeah, but E.V.E. was never really treated as Robotnik's daughter, even she was referred to as "she" rather than "it," and the connection to the later A.D.A.M., which wasn't explicit, was still clear. And A.D.A.M. was treated as Robotnik's son and Mecha's sister. But still, E.V.E. wasn't treated like his daughter. It would have been cooler if they revealed Mecha was secretly possessed by E.V.E. and she was actually spying on him or something. The two concepts were obviously related, albeit mostly through A.D.A.M., and making that connection more explicit would have been cool.
>>25806 And oh yeah, Flynn should have brought back Robotnik Jr when he had the chance. Have him meet A.D.A.M.. Robotnik has four or five children now, by my count. And that's not even counting things like Scratch and Grounder, Bocoe and Decoe, or Orbot and Cubot, who come pretty close to counting.
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>>25797 >I wonder if any of this will be referenced in the present of the comics. Welp. Unless I'm mistaken, the Warp Topaz showing up here after it vanished in the main series means that the "Classic" canon is a parallel universe or adjacent Zone or whatever. (Not sure offhand how this impacts the Sonic Forces "Tails PTSD/hallucination" theory.)
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>>25816 I don't see why it couldn't just as likely be time travel instead of dimensional travel. Yes, "Classic Sonic" should technically be an alternate dimension/splinter timeline due to the Time Eater creating a split timeline in Generations, but clearly Sega wants to treat it like it's just the past, and frankly, sure, whatever, I can accept that. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they just say the Warp Topaz warped to the past, and if they want to, they can say the same thing happened in the alt-dimension/timeline with the "other" Classic Sonic, as well. Really, they've clearly been trying to gloss over the idea of Classic Sonic being anything other than Sonic from the past.
>>25818 >Warp Topaz warped to the past I hope not. There's already more than enough time travel stuff with Silver as it is. Time travel is a huge mess and it's better not to include it in a setting unless that setting es expressly conceived of revolving around time travel.
>>25819 Treating "Classic Sonic" as the past would simplify things significantly over treating it as an alternate dimension. It seems to be what they've been doing. If it were me, I'd do one short story in the comic that explains that "Classic Sonic" from Generations, Mania, and Forces is technically a guy from an alt timeline/dimension, but "Modern Sonic" (regular Sonic) also had extremely similar experiences, except the parts that explicitly didn't happen to him (seeing The Time Eater in the past). Just explain it once in a little short story, then never mention it again and just treat "Classic Sonic" as the past. It would make things much simpler.
>>25820 It's not even so much that I have a problem with Classic Sonic being past Sonic, I just don't want them to go in for a time travel plot with the Topaz. I don't think they will though. The Warp Topaz hasn't shown any sort of time travel abilities but it has shown dimensional traveling abilities several times. >"Classic Sonic" from Generations, Mania, and Forces is technically a guy from an alt timeline/dimension, but "Modern Sonic" (regular Sonic) also had extremely similar experiences, except the parts that explicitly didn't happen to him (seeing The Time Eater in the past). I sort of agree but I would go the route that the Classic universe is a divergent timeline where what ever set off the events of SA1 and 2 didn't happen so things have just continued along. >Just explain it once in a little short story, then never mention it again and just treat "Classic Sonic" as the past. It would make things much simpler. That would be fine, as long as you have "modern day" Sonic stories and also have Classic Sonic stories and there is never any crossover between them. But it looks right now that they are building up to an eventual crossover between the two so the specifics will have to be dealt with. And the comic already shows that the Sonic universe runs on Back to the Future rules with Silver so making a Classic-Modern crossover be time travel will just be narratively messier.
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>>25821 >what ever set off the events of SA1 and 2
>>25821 >I would go the route that the Classic universe is a divergent timeline where what ever set off the events of SA1 and 2 didn't happen so things have just continued along. But Classic Sonic is treated as younger than Modern Sonic. If anything, we should just be assuming that Sonic Adventure might still happen in the future of Classic Sonic, but all the events we see of Classic Sonic, starting with Forces, are after all of the games that came out before Adventure. Mania references even Sonic R, so we can assume it takes place after Sonic R, which was one of the last games before Adventure. Adventure could still happen later, but hasn't yet. But Classic Sonic is younger, so it's not like time continued and just went differently than it did in the main timeline. >That would be fine, as long as you have "modern day" Sonic stories and also have Classic Sonic stories and there is never any crossover between them. But it looks right now that they are building up to an eventual crossover between the two so the specifics will have to be dealt with. If they did do a comic crossover of Classic and Modern, I'd hope it was just to try to explain things. Flynn is good at that when he wants to be. But I don't think they're even gonna do that. Maybe though. We'll see. It might just be that they say Fang or whoever had the Warp Topaz in the present. Or Heavy King, maybe. They might be setting him up to be a bigger thing in the present stories, if Flynn can ever convince Sega to let him do that and not treat the "Classic" characters as off limits to the main stories. >And the comic already shows that the Sonic universe runs on Back to the Future rules with Silver so making a Classic-Modern crossover be time travel will just be narratively messier. Silver's travel through time is by different mechanics so different rules can apply. When Silver goes back in time he changed the future, but when The Time Eater messes with time it can do other things, like split the timeline. And they can also just easily say everything they've shown in all the IDW Classic Sonic stories, including the recent Fang one, just plain took place in the past of the regular stories and just weren't mentioned before. Simple enough. Maybe The Warp Topaz went to the past and has been there the whole time, but nobody knew about it until now. >>25824 What set off the events of Sonic Adventure was Eggman freeing Chaos, but Chaos was mentioned as early as Sonic 2's manual. Sonic Adventure 2 is more of a narrative break, but nobody wants to set the division there, since those two games are obviously so related even though their stories are actually more unrelated than any main series Sonic game before them.
>>25825 It still just seems a bit to messy to me to go that route but hell even if they do it's probably a more interesting plot than what ever the fuck Mimic, Clutch, and the terror twins are planning back at Knothole The Restoration. Also speaking of messy if it is explicitly the past then that means that Starline is still alive then and could potentially get a hold of the Topaz before he's suppose to.
>>25825 >Silver's travel through time is by different mechanics so different rules can apply. The IDW comics haven't actually covered how he travels through time (other than mentioning offhand that Silver doesn't have any control over it), but I managed to dig up the current canon: mysterious portals that suddenly appear whenever the author wants to write him into the story he's needed in the past.
>>25827 >mysterious portals that suddenly appear whenever the author wants to write him into the story he's needed in the past. Oh I was wrong then. It's not Back to the Futures rules it's Chrono Trigger rules, which is frankly much better.
>>25826 >Also speaking of messy if it is explicitly the past then that means that Starline is still alive then and could potentially get a hold of the Topaz before he's suppose to. You say that's messy, but I don't think it would necessarily be a terrible plot. Starline could do a "change the future" plot. I could see it working fine. That said, I'm done caring about Starline, so I still hope nothing like that happens. >>25827 Either way, the point is it's not with the Warp Topaz. If you go back in time via different means, then you can say different rules apply. Going back in time with the Time Stones or Little Planet can have different rules than going back in time with the Phantom Ruby, if they wanted to say that. Or I guess due to Sonic '06 you can even go back in time with two or more Chaos Emeralds, and again, you could say that has different rules.
>>25811 The expressions on this issue are great. >>25812 I feel like I would have done well to have played Mania by this point. >it was the warp topaz Well, that makes sense I guess, I definitely wasn't expecting that though! >>25813 For how stupidly safe they like to play it regarding mixing franchises and themes and eras and whatnot I'm surprised they namedropped the HBH boss out of nowhere like that. >chinchilla I miss the stupid chinchilla in Archie. Plus Cassia and Clove. >>25814 I totally missed that Eggman's chair was actually a statue of himself. >>25816 I just interpreted that scene as the Warp Topaz having calmed down or that due to it being buried Tails just wasn't detecting it anymore. My thoughts about this issue were that perhaps this was the past and maybe tied somehow into how Starline discovered the topaz. But that'd be too cool. Maybe just Starline wasn't the first to find it and that's it. >>25821 >The Warp Topaz hasn't shown any sort of time travel abilities but it has shown dimensional traveling abilities several times. That makes sense. >>25826 >even if they do it's probably a more interesting plot than what ever the fuck Mimic, Clutch, and the terror twins are planning back at Knothole The Restoration Seriously, that stuff is pretty dense and boring. All of this is much more interesting, but in a comic that has been all about playing it the safest I feel there's fuck all chance we'll get anything even remotely as complex.
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IDW Sonic the Hedgehog: Fang the Hunter #4 storytime!!!
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>>25838 The end!!! Thoughts??
Pretty alright story. A bit forgettable, but I care more about these characters than I do about Tangle and Whisper and Lanolin and Belle. Now, part of me is interested in Scourge, and interested in getting back to that storyline, but then I remember it will probably just be more of the girls sitting around and eating desserts or whatever, so nevermind. Also I looked it up and the next story is by Evan Stanley, so yeah, this Fang story is gonna be the best stuff we'll get for the next few months at least.
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IDW Sonic 69# Storytime!!!
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>>25868 That's all for today
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>>25835 I feel like they've missed the chance to make some references to some of the other huge flying ships in the series. >>25837 Sonic and Tails' part in this was so shoehorned in. Other than that I think it was a fun issue. >>25840 About to find out! Personally I think not-scourge is boring and one note as hell. >it will probably just be more of the girls sitting around and eating desserts or whatever I've always been fond of slice of life stuff so I kinda wish, but the main story is not really great. >>25864 Ooh, I love the Riders gear. Man it's been months and I barely remember what was going on. >>25867 Kit sleeping in a pile of pillows is so cute. And Surge without her hair being tied looks much more girly, I love how they used this to convey she was just out of bed. >>25868 That whole Eggman scene is fantastic. I don't remember many times where I've enjoyed Eggman in the comic. Also who let Cubot have a waifu pillow? >>25712 They never did tell the story behind the missing tail right?
The whole race event thing seems sort of out of the blue, but it's actually kinda amusing to me; it's as if time was passing in the main storyline while we were watching Team Hooligan's shenanigans. Might be a bit jarring for someone reading an anthology, though? >>25874 >They never did tell the story behind the missing tail right? Nope, it's still a mystery.
>>25875 >The whole race event thing seems sort of out of the blue I actually went looking into the previous issues because that had me wondering where it came from. It kind of felt familiar but I didn't remember that I was supposed to expect this and it was frustrating that I didn't end up finding anything (I find it a chore to go back several issues trying to find a small detail I might have missed.) I think I got a bit confused with a previous arc about Team Sonic Racing where they were actually invited to race. I ended up more confused because it feels like a really awkward direction to go in given what was going on in the story, though considering the series I guess it's not really unusual.
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IDW Sonic the Hedgehog: Spring Broken storytime!!!
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>>25884 That's all Thoughts?
>>25885 >Thoughts? Why is Tails eating a handful of worms?
>>25886 I'm guessing it's a funnel cake
>>25885 Remember when Sonic was supposed to be cool? Now we get a whole special issue about gardening, which actually is the payoff to a two year subplot about Silver learning to garden. How cool. This is exactly what the series should have always been like.
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>>25888 (trips of truth) That story would've made more sense if it had been Amy and Cream instead of Sonic and Tails. By which I mean I could photoshop Amy and Cream over Sonic and Tails and leave the dialogue untouched and there wouldn't even be that many discrepancies.
>>25885 >Thoughts? Man they really don't seem to want to get back to the main plot.
>>25888 >>25889 Another thing that I thought of. This story is posed as a mystery whodunit. Yeah I wonder who it could possibly be?! Maybe Rough and/or Tumble?! Like they're openly right there and they've been assholes in literally every appearance. Even Eggman can suppress his autism occasionally to be able to temporarily interact with the Sonic crew. So like who else would it have been?
>>25889 Except Amy and Cream shouldn't be the main characters anyway, outside of rare special issues, or occasional backup stories. And I like those characters. But the problem is that the series is getting very far thematically and tonally from what it's supposed to be. The Archie comics under the same head-writer were very different from what they were supposed to be due to literally starring characters who weren't in the games, but he showed the potential to do it right when dealing with the main characters. Even under Flynn, Sonic, Tails, Amy, Knuckles, Shadow, Rouge, Blaze, they were all written better. I want to blame the other writers, like Evan Stanley, and she's definitely worse than Flynn, but he's not that different than her.. Modern Flynn writes more like Evan Stanley than he writes like himself 10-15 years ago. Maybe it's all IDW being the gay as fuck company they are, telling them to market to exclusively girls, as if that's the audience for either comics or Sonic. But they lost the Hasbro licenses by doing that shit, so I wouldn't put it past them.
>>25892 I've just been assuming that SEGA is so tight reined anymore that it's limited what they can do so they're pretty much stuck with the slice of life adventures of Sonic and friends and occasionally Eggman shows up and does something. Also I really thing that the Mimic/Clutch/Surge/Kit storyline has a become a totally written into a corner thing and they don't know where to proceed.
>>25893 I really doubt that's Sega's decision. Sega was fine with Master Overlord, and if anything that would be a period when they would put the tightest leash on the comics, right when the IDW series began. Meanwhile, they've let Flynn and Stanley make the comic about tons and tons of OCs. I doubt Sega loves that, given the history of stuff like that in the franchise. Overall, say what you want about Sega, but who is more likely to want to make the comic as if it was written for girls? Sega, or IDW/modern American comic writers? Ultimately it's the same problem other American comics have, but to a lesser degree. If anything, that's what is being reigned in by Sega.


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