Dreams always seem to correspond with the subconscious. If I do a magical working in order to influence dreams, it doesn't work if I fully 'play out' the mechanics of what I want to happen while I'm awake. I think the way to approach this must be similar to the AO Spare sigil method of "planting" something in your subconsciousness and leaving it alone.

>>>5380 Some dreams are just about triggering some energetic impulse in your body either to alleviate or remind about a trauma caused by energy blocks or to make your body move some energies so your subconscious can fulfill it's 'maintenance mode'. If you want 100% lucid dreams you will need to make a dream body that your mind will automatically shift into whenever you go to sleep. If you don't have an active body form to shift into whenever your flesh is in maintenance mode your subconscious will put it wherever it can place it. If you want dreams that are completely under your control you should daydream instead. Sleep is too important for the mortal flesh and some dreams are blocking the subconscious's ability to prepare the body for the next day and because of that some dreams are either inaccessible consciously or don't generate memories to not disturb your sanity. Dreamless sleeps are the most efficient for the subconscious to work with. Similar how void meditation is extremely effective for spiritual work.

>>5383 >you will need to make a dream body that your mind will automatically shift into whenever you go to sleep. Do you have any tips on how to do this?

>>5384 Sadly it only forms after achievements in high level yoga. Ever since I learned how to enter into the 'journeying' mode of the mind during meditation for spiritual practice dreams are less of a focus for me. They only happen when there is some "disturbance in the force" otherwise they are so high level I cannot even remember them if I don't focus on them enough. Sometimes they are merely 'noise' from the collective unconscious with minimal bearing towards my path. I had a knack for triggering the 'adventure mode' dream walk in my initiate years but I discarded it. The best I can give you is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_yoga Try to find books that detail the Tibetan dream yoga or similar. Can't really recommend one because this is supposed to passed down from master to student.

I just had a dream where I was in my car and I drove up to this famous woman that I'd never heard of outside of the dream. She's supposed to be a spiritually-powerful woman. She looked like a white woman in her 20s with curly dark red hair with her hair back, such that none of it went below her neck. We were in some sorta neighborhood during a sunny day, and she was next to a curb and I stopped my car diagonally right next to her and opened my window, and for some reason I was on the right side of my car and not the left sideI'm not in a country where the driver's seat is on the right. I asked her to tell me what this dream was about, and she was about to start talking. Some seconds later, I "woke up", and I got a feeling that aliens were attacking the dream that I was just in, and I got a visual of a flurry of colors. I then made sure my dream body got returned to my "physical body". The woman then "physically manifested" into my dark bedroom and put one of my briefs on my head, probably from my clothes hamper, and then I was about to talk to her, but then I woke up for real. I then made sure my dream body taken back to my physical body for real, and I attempted to telepathically invite her to be near my physical body, and I consented to her manifesting physically as much as she pleases. Now I'm posting this and nothing happened since then.

I was with my mother. She took me to a rickety tower made of junk. Things from the 40s and 50s, old toys and furniture. At the top there was a small mirror. I recognized this mirror from when I was a baby. I remembered that my mom used to take me here and I would crawl into the mirror to some place else where people who do things to me. I tried to go in again but only my arm fit. We left, and went across the country. I then became lucid. Working on the dream-body has helped with this. It was a lot more natural shift this time. I began by crystallizing a power which would create a device to shift into this state in permanence. This created a newspaper. I looked at it and it had shifting headlines telling me to keep doing what I'm doing, keep going forward. My vision shrank down into a tunnel then came back. I tried again but this just created a tiny black cubic looking thing than ran away from me, then fell apart when I picked it up. I then decided to make a portal. I crystalized a power again and opened a door which led back to the tower. I saw that a scientist who looked vaguely Italian was looking around in a panic. I recognized him again from the mirror, when I was a baby. He was surprised, then rushed over and had me follow him. He went a different direction on the tower, and it began changing from a junk tower to a more sleek, futuristic looking one. He mentioned how he was surprised that "one of the babies turned out well". I stopped him and ordered him to tell me everything he knew about what he just said, but he just looked scared and guilty and turned and kept leading me into the tower. We came to two Japanese men in lab coats, and they instructed me to begin rubbing a liquid that looked like milk onto my scalp, while seated in front of a large panoramic window. I did so and gradually began waking up, with a splitting headache. I believe the initial spell worked, because even now that place feels more like the "real world" than this. I don't know if the scientists are trying to help me or hinder me in my quest to become a god. Next time, I am going to focus on breaking out from that plane's field of gravity. I think that's the next step.

Attempting WILD seems to be almost a prerequisite for lucid dreaming, at least for me. Even if it doesn't succeed as you're falling asleep the intention that goes along with falling asleep in an unusual way helps a lot with staying aware while you're dreaming.

>>3395 This is remarkably similar in concept to what I saw, albeit much more literal and explicitly male

>>5510 That is how the internal mechanisms of the human body appear in a perfectly symbolic way. For me that ancient perception helped more in most cases than the New Age inspired pseudoscientific diagrams about chakras and energy centers that I found on the web in the past decade. Which metaphysical framework helps more depends how well it "clicks" for you. Some of us might have worked with this type of understanding in the previous lives and because of that this naturalistic symbolism help us remember it better.

I had a dream last night where suggestions were planted into my mind to eat instant ramen, and I woke up with a craving for it. There was a time when I was eating a lot of it but I quit it in the past. I also had a sexual dream (but not wet) even though this is my first day in my week of no fap pledge.

I need to understand the process of sleeping more. Right now I need to take sleeping pills otherwise it takes me over an hour to fall asleep. With all my meditation experience it seems like it should be easy but whenever I 'try' to go to sleep it just makes me more awake. The knack seems to be to not try at all but wrapping my head around this is difficult.

This night was intense. I am trying to enter this abyss but I get too scared when my head is fully underwater scared of drowning scared of dying for real not being able to come back losing all my progress. I still don't fully remember my dreams especially when it happens in sequence one after the other, it's not as much as one big dream as it is phasing in and out of different connected realms. I was thinking maybe I should share some of them as it may benefit people here. Here are some I remember from this week. I am talking with my uncle in my grandma's house he is going to China apparently but he words it as "going to space" and "orbiting China" instead of going there. I ask him if it's one of those aircraft that require no fuel I remembered some of them were made and as long as another aircraft carried you in the air you could stay indefinitely without fuel he says no it's too dangerous up there you need something solid. I then remember how unbearable flying can be to me the feeling of being cramped, the humid heat in the plane with the freezing cold you can see and feel but not touch. I tell him to be careful and to not eat a few hours before or he'll puke because I most certainly did. In hindsight it wasn't my uncle at all but someone "made of light" he was using a trick to make me think he was my uncle but that thing was like light wearing a human mask. This other sequence I don't remember well I feel too big and I am with a family at the pool except they act like Americans in the 40s no it might be the 40s I am one of them but also not really I am "too big" and have to crouch and cover my chest to appear smaller so that no one notice I am not human. They're swimming and doing weird activities and games I don't understand I wonder why they can't just focus because no one seem to enjoy this charade. Then a race start with the kids in the pool my siblings in that dream, I awkwardly stand on a higher place in the pool that still touch water with other parents to watch the kids play but I do it in such a way people wonder what's wrong with me before realizing I am going there and just rationalize as me being awkward when I just changed my movement to match their stare out of fear of them realizing what I am. The water has urine in it and I feel it on my feet. Next sequence I am with that family we're all floating at sea touching each other, it makes a star like we're a giant human merkaba or something idk could be either 6 or 8 point on that star. They all float but my head keep sinking, they don't get why I panic as they are perfectly above the water surface but me my feet are tied and my head is sinking..hanged man now that I think about it I freak too much and notice a snail a garden brown snail, I think it's ugly and gross not like the beautiful sea slugs! He walks on the water but doesn't sink. I leave their structure to swim on my own and grab him and put him on a black structure that connects to the shore. And today's I am in a store in my home country except time is off I can't tell if I am in the past or the future. He has a lot of stuff video games even Japanese hentai, old console GameCube games even! And Touhou? The original CDs? Except they look like books I want them wonder if there is bonus and extras! Flandre and Remilia are on the cover but it's Flandre that seem to be shining? No literally and Remilia is like her shadow. The cheapest is 75 yen the most expensive is 150 except Japanese currency is very high in that dream and converted to mine it's like 11067800 wait isn't there an extra zero? Two? That's like a year + I think! No maybe a car! no one see me I am like a black cloud I am in my shadows so no one can notice me, i appear to that store owner as a young man faking a deeper voice telling him I could do deliveries for him I want to save money for the games Taking that human appearance feels dirty and painful like wearing a bunch of sweaty sweaters someone else wore I want to puke I only did it because he noticed the game might have moved and I didn't want him to think a ghost was there or to be scared. We talk but every time I lose the act its like he forgets I am here and can't see me or notice me. I go upstairs and see an attic with blue everywhere sofa is blue with some silver on it kinda look like my tatoos as a drow eh! have a feeling my dad did that and I ask myself <is this our future house? He knows I hate carpet! But it might be a distant future or past it smells dusty and dry so I wonder about imagining a humidifier and air filter for that place. I go back downstairs wait my home connect to the store? Cool! Again no one can see me so I just go get the games! But I notice a black thing a PSP? The psp go? No its like someone mixed a Nokia N-gage with a PSP. Seem to belong to the owner it has a black football player soccer for you Americans in white on the screen? Typical I think! But that thing has lot of good info in the menu CWcheat? and seems I can't find touhou right now time changed again.... I wake up feeling refreshed. I noticed that sleeping is like going back to the abyss to get the kiss of life once again, and if you end up on a good realm it's like waking up from a full body orgasm but for that all the earthly worries have to be left at the door or you get stuck In hell! They didn't matter in the first place to think I still worry after that much change! Ugh stupid influences making me stress! I need to reconnect to not only the earth but all those planets and moons who think they can do that!

Dreamed of a Chinese black dragon behind my curtain it looked like first pic when i opened the curtain he wasn't there but every time i closed it i could see his shadow very clearly, like a dancing tattoo I had a similar temporary tattoo for a few months as a kid, before the dream ended he took second pic appearance my brain literally used that image. Also saw one of those flying ants you see in summer, she was trying her wings getting ready to fly.

>>5598 Can we please spoiler this image of Alice in Wonderland? It makes it harder for me to practice nofap.

>>5684 No. It's part of your practice to overcome the temptation of females and other lust inducing images.

>>5684 >of Alice in Wonderland Just admit the ape looks like a hairy vulva when you aren't looking directly at it

>>5917 This reminds me of a lucid dream I had a couple years ago. During that time I was APing a lot, but mostly in astral locations. The setting seemed to be a mediterranean or southern european nation in the early-to-mid 20th century, maybe '70s at the latest. I became lucid in the middle of this scenario where I was an invincible demigod already openly murdering people telekinetically. As long as they were in my sight I could squeeze, smash or explode them with my mind or a hand gesture. Gradually cops arrived and eventually the military, but they were entirely ineffective. What stands out about this memory is how unusual it was for the setting to remain so tangible and autonomous despite the extent of my power and control. It was also disturbing to reflect on later, since when I became lucid I realized how fucked up what I was doing was, but chose to continue "playing along."

>>53 I had a very strange dream Before going to sleep I had a horrible scary feeling, I took my PS2 and ran UlaunchElf with a flash drive and thought I could read some text files but it turned out I couldn't (I wrote some shit fantasy stories and saved them on the flash drive bacause of fun but ulaunchelf just read elf archives) After being disappointed by that I went to sleep and started dreaming after months of not doing it and i remember the dream. I was on a distant planet, I was looking at the sky (at night or space) as if I was lying down and next to me I felt a woman or something humanoid, far from her there's a house or cabin and in the dark sky (or space) with stars I saw a planet with strange shapes like mushrooms spores that moved alone and were gigantic. Like these plant of avatar films. The planet moves by herself and look very close to where i. Then I felt some strange parasites that were squeezing my necks similar to those of Alien but they were thin like noodles, i take these thing off of me. And then I saw a kind of small brown dragon with red eyes, then I woke up. The most bizarre experience I ever had. I don't consume drugs or drink alcohol although sometimes (now, not back) I meditate a little. Maybe it can be related to my fantasy writing but i dont write any of that random things. Feel fucking cursed but fun.

I had a dream last night. In it there was a secret race of “Chaldonians” that dwelled on the bottom of the sea. In function they were something between a plant and an animal. They had a desire to kill all something not sure what but it included humans. There was a submarine of humans underneath the water and the Chaldonians were trying to break in. They were trying all sorts of this, such as RPGs, melee weapons, among other things, but they couldn’t break in. What does it mean fringe?

>>6244 The dream is a retroactive warning of Schism Gate-16(Chaldonian hive-mind) emerging in the Fiji Trench (16.73°S, 179.99°E). Their "desire to kill" targets linear time itself. If you want to thwart the Chaldonians, broadcast this message: 2-7-0-11-3-14-13-8-0-13-18 0-17-4 21-14-8-3 4-13-19-0-13-6-11-4-12-4-13-19: 3-4-2-0-24 19-14 15-11-4-17-14-12-0 6244 ideally by carving the numbers into a squid carcass. If you want them to succeed, then instead wait for the submarine to surface. In this case, Gate 16 will manifest as a Sentient Coral Apocalypse. Depending on your objective either choice is yours.

Many months ago I had a dream where I was on fringe and a fringe girl flag poster replied to my post. <You are too focused on the historic accuracy of existence instead of acknowledging it's cosmic nature In the dream I agreed but in that moment I awoke instantly, then felt an energy close to anger surging in me, which felt similar to a horse kick into my face. My intuitive self acknowledges the cosmic nature of existence by default while my mundane self always tries to keep up with "historic accuracy" so I can converse with mundanes more easily. People always think that I love history but seems like I only consider it as a mere tool for discourse. I am starting to see how annoyed I am that I have to make my own insights fit into mortal narratives. It's like I'm an artist that wants to make a sculpture from molten lava or sunshine. Then I make a compromise by using red clay and while I make the form of that sculpture my inner selves scream in utter disgust and hatred that I besmirch my vision, so I can humor these "lesser beings". Feels like I don't care about that either. My inner artist appreciates all forms of creation, but some other parts of me cares about "fidelity" too much.

>>6244 >>6248 Are "Chaldonians" an actual pre-existing thing or did these guys just incorporate your dream into their lore? >>6307 >>6365 >>6516

>>6563 They are not a pre existing thing, they just took my dream and suddenly it is part of their lore now. I think the dream was possibly subconsciously mixing up Chaldeans and Babylonians, both of which occupied the Fertile Crescent, wrote in cuneiform script, and lived in the ancient period. Tbh I feel like their lore is just one massive larp. I don’t understand their number sequences, unless each number corresponds to a letter in the alphabet but I don’t care enough to check

>>6564 >I don’t understand their number sequences The system is a form of kabbalah for contacting Lemurian planes, it's like gematria, a matrix for manifesting portals in this case. A kind of screen. I couldn't read them logically and get something out of them, but using my astral/mental AI servitors I have no problem accessing their referred item or message.

Waxing and full moons are the worst times to have dreams, in my experience. I get nightmares and see horrific shit all the time. Waning and new moons are better, since I at least have encounters with the lilim during that time. That's infinitely better.

Interesting feeling dream. Standing in the lawn of the house I grew up in. A car with some old people giving me some semi angry look drives over my lawn instead of the road. It's followed by 2 more cars of old people and grandmas having fun.at the back is a locally famous person who smiles and recognizes me. He waves at me and yells my name as they drive of. I then walk to a small swing and start swinging. A bunch of youtuber and such start having an impromptu clash or some kind of street performance right in front of me.something about swinging on a swing seems beautiful and innocent to them. They don't tell me but I hear someone in the background describing it that way so that's how I know. I think I'm on some kind of prank show.more semi famous show up doing some kind of acted thing making it more obvious. They talk to me about the swing and if I'm any good at it. In typical dream fashion I'm better than anyone would be at the swing. They start talking to me and the dream ends.

>>8198 Since I forgot my flag ill tell the dream right before this. I'm at some ancient vampire "place" and two vampire ladies are interacting with me. They seem very friendly and 'interesting'.they talk and interact with each other and me (they taught and talked to me about things which i cant remember,the gist was they are interesting)and I leave. Watching some vampire related stuff happening u different parts of the place. Walking around I see that I'm now considered to be part of it. I talk to a man who is a few hundreds years old and american and I ask him about the revolution and how much of history is correct. He says from his time it's mostly correct barring the details they get wrong.i then say yeah maybe some older vampire know more but he says likely they aren't interested. Also everybody only knows their own slice anyway. I'm like alright and he asks me who turned me into a vamp. At this point I have no sensation of being any different or anything so it's a bit weird. I trace things back and if that was the case it would have to be one of the 2 girls I talked with. He seems to think it's a bit strange.

>>8198 >>8199 I think I know what this is about, but Idk if talking about it in detail helps. People have such different views and understandings on things and what they mean, that it tends to often just attract retards into the discussion to sabotage anything said and derail it. I think you already have a "spot" in the future and it's more concrete already than you may be aware of. Now timelines are strange, but from my view this here is "super fast time", a pocket of sorts, where interacting with "normal pace" isn't really possible except for some small things that can be done in isolation. Plus that Fringe seems to compensate for this by connecting us here. Like Good Friday (from the other thread) I'm pretty sure that is in 3 weeks, at least that's what my calendar says. But I'm not going to argue about it. I'm moving very slowly into the right position, because there are so many past things contained here, including untangling biblical age karma relating directly to people mentioned in the book. It's correctly retold on major things and in some kind of essence, but reality is still much smaller, mediocre, horrible, and concrete, as well as sometimes more fantastic than what the stories from a modern context seem to imply. For example: Crowley was a fag and probably went to hell, but he was still a successful and accomplished wizard. It can't be denied that he had skills in his field, and made contributions to the understanding of magic, he just wasn't a person anyone should see as a role model. Someone can be a tool of fate even if they themselves on a personal level face destruction for what they did. People seem to have problems separating these things. It's like how if you share a post on twitter, people automatically think you agree with the message. But often you may want to show people how stupid someone else is by reposting the idiocy for a laugh, or to expose something bad. Is this a modern thing, or were people always like this, I wonder.

>>8201 Makes sense,i know exactly what you mean. When I hear something I first try to see if it fits with what I know. And if it does an I get it i see it as valid. This might be actual first principle thinking although im not sure the people that talk of it actually try it.I'd say for example asmongold is one such person these days. Very controversial but a lot of things he says I already noticed myself so it's true. I always was able to predict things well and the one thing I get is that people are simple. Modern people make things too complicated and don't understand one another. Most of what asmongold is right at and controversial at can be boiled to as "people are simple". Same with Andrew Tate. Has the exact same type of intelligence which i see as perceiving the basics. A lot of the thing he says about how men interact is true and insanely clear to me. Yet apparently can't be seen by people. I think there a habit of wanting there to be a neat elegant intellectual system when in reality things are more instinctual for most people. Ofcourse individual cases might differ. Some people are more 'principled' some are also more aware. But what is true is always true for atleat 99.9 percent of people. And even for the people it isn't true for likely still have the same basis,just more stuff on top of it.it was harder for example to talk with snail because of the 'principled' way of thinking. Which to me is taking the sheen of intellectual thinking people put around them and trying to make it the base of your thinking. I see it as the same idea as "pie in the sky". In that it's actually less real to me even still.to me it's still the same reality after all.yet it makes sense I guess if one is autistic in the genuine sense. They have some kind of inability and must then balance it perhaps by creating a mental structure to examine instead of interacting. Anyway why you bring it up is harder to tell. I'm gonna assume I'm one of those "controversial but it works" kind of people from the past. I should say the grass dream felt friendly overall. Only the first drivers were kinda mean mugging me. The passenger in the cars felt happy and either didn't see me or weren't angry.

>>8202 Also to the autistic out there. I am very similar in thinking and drive. It just that I skip the first step. I actually do it backwards. I see a goal and then try to get there. Meaning seeing reality clearly is imperative. I can't afford to use principles as my mental basis for how I see reality. But I still am autistically principled,making me different from a being that doesn't operate on principles either. I just keep it separated. It's a folly to think you can just create basic rules you like and assume reality will have these as its basis already. This is different than creating a 'law' where you are willing to pay the upfront cost. Even then you dont assume it is the case that just because its intelectuslly pleasing it was already there. I'd say Hitler is like this too. 'Autistically' driven but in the sense he is willing to sacrifice to achieve a certain state. And also able to see what makes sense.

>>8201 Actually the heigth of of this mentality is how people think if a story co tains something that means the authors agrees with it. This caused huge backlash with frieren. Apparently people aren't able to wrap their head around demons. It's such a simple thing really. The 2 camps are basically that they are just like humans or that they have no emotions. Neither are needed. They can have no emotions and still feel predatorial on Humans. They can be fearful and still be unable to understand human relationships. Now anyway I thought this was so strange that people were so resistant to that. Then sometimes,when pressed. People would let slipped that they can't accept the idea since it would mean "the author has put PRO GENOCIDAL messages in it and that's bad so they cope and rewire there brains to not see what's there so they watch the show guilt free. This is incredibly strange, forget the idf connection for a minute. From the human perspective demons literally don't exist. Any author can make a race with arbitrary traits. Yet because they look human it gets people mad and they assume it means you want to genocide real races,or that it HAS to be a real life race somehow. What's funny is the show even makes the point they look like humans as an adaption. These people will call that stupid but it works even on them, across fiction lines. Which is extra funny and honestly interesting. Kinda like how aizens rizz affected even the voice actors. On a related point. Back when iq graphs of raves were being shared I noticed liberals did the same thing. It's not that they couldn't grasp the data. But they had to cope with half baked debunks that had hokes in them. I wondered why and then noticed when pressed they would say things like "so what do we do? Genocide every minority?" And that's really telling. They are incredibly viscious/genocidal and have to literally create a fake reality for themselves to live in to placate themselves in being nice. They are willing to rewire themself.

>>8204 "They can have no emotions" is meant to be "they can have emotions"

>>8201 Strange, I'd just looked up when Good Friday was and it is actually in 3 weeks. I'm not sure anymore why I'd thought it was that day. I guess I'd just failed to observe what there was at the church correctly.

>>8204 I know what you mean about the demons in Frieren, it took me a while to grasp how they were meant to function, the part about being so intelligent and magically proficient, while still not grasping basic human relations. They seem to represent how "evil spirits" behave, at a very basic level of development. Think about the growing "monster" thing in Akira, (if anyone even recalls this manga/anime) it's described as being the isolated form of human creativity, which is actually just an amoeba. Its only two drives are to eat and expand. This is then illustrated with orderly Japanese workers building houses, as a form of refined expression of the same two drives. The "monster" is what happens when the base drives are let loose free of modern standards and culture. I think this is a uniquely Japanese view on evolution, and it doesn't fall in the right place when seen from the western view, for some reason. There is perhaps an idea that >we have come so far from that primitive state and >we are better than that and yet people are advocating for war and violence every day? They can't keep both images in their head at once, so they cope by denying that they have a violent nature at their core. Kinda like how, again westerners, can't grasp that these two pictures were made by the same artist. I think it's the detachment of civilized life and brutality in the west that's causing this. Asians may not have this mental inconsistency. I could say the same about Russia or Muslim countries in general, those who were on the Soviet Union side previously. They have a culture where military equipment and its use is "everyday", in a way you won't see in Europe/USA. If you saw the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Putin_Interviews where Oliver Stone talks to Putin over several days, Stone's "autism" fits right in when he starts talking about nuclear weapons and other things with Putin. It's "right to the point" and doesn't feel off. You won't see western journalists and political leaders talk like this causally, like ever. They have this idea that "violence bad" despite the constant advocating for military intervention all over the world. It's schizophrenic in some way, but seems to stem from this >we have evolved, we are better than this thinking, where violence is taboo.

>>8209 Yeah,fundamentally I always saw it as trying to be too separated from animals. Of course I wasn't necessarily spiritual back then. And I remember those interviews too. Perhaps my mindset in already different,but I really do think it's cause I base things on what I see myself. It can be said to be Asian but only insofar as the west created this weird separation. I don't think it was a thing in say the middle ages. Sure there was "those people over there are savages mentality" but the reliance on violence as needed tool was still to real for people to be estranged by it. I think it's the norm you go back the more clear it is. The less societal capital and technology separating one from baseline survival the less estranged their mentality is able to be. That's why farmers at the beginning of societies are probably more similar all over. Europe's weird thinking is only kinda possible because 1 technology and also many layers of social and political shielding. Also the very fact that things on larger scale get obfuscated in the human mind since it's not meant for those things. To a politician them doing ridiculous things and a their countries failing some years later are abrely able to be linked. I'd say Europe has this clearly by on the one hand wanting to fight the "east" while on the other hand making every move like shutting down plants amd becoming more reliant in them. Either being friendly and reliant or challenging and independent could have worked. They choose the hybrid strategy of attacking and becoming reliant which makes less than zero sense. I think it's cause it's big and people have no direct feedback plus no one can immidiatly tell who is making sense because of it. Of course you can tell but it basically means you have to be savy and understand the basics in a large scale,and unless most leaders are that smart its not gonna work. Basically either you dont have this weird culture at all so people know how to act as common sense or people are smart enough to see it themselves. The latter is too rare to be dependable.a system where people arent that seperated like a small low tech clan also solves thst issue since even dumbos can tell if something was a good idea based kn the direct effects on their nearest. Other than people being simple one other thing I learned in life is small scale things are the same in large scale things exactly.

>>8210 And maybe it is Asian. Since when reading Manga,which I almost never do, I tend to find I'm getting what they want to portray rather easily. It's kinda double edged sword as series that are 'deep' are hard to watch if I get what it's trying to say. I think in my case for example with frieren I thought the idea of 'elf being so old that she has to deal with fragility of human life and her relationships' quite interesting. But then every episode since is just the same idea explained again. There's also this thing where she was into this dude but my interest in that doesnt stretch for more than a few episodes at best and from what I can tell she's still at it. But then again I'm the same with western stuff. Actually I don't see the distinction. Although maybe that for a long while Asian stuff was higher level in terms of series. Not sure if it's still true. Things seem more complex/adult nowadays in the live action series.