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TOP LEL Veteran Leader 08/18/2016 (Thu) 17:21:44 Id: 15ec6b No. 326757 [Reply]
TIME: How Trolls Are Ruining the Internet https://archive.is/e3sSs >Trolling is, overtly, a political fight. Liberals do indeed troll–sex-advice columnist Dan Savage used his followers to make Googling former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum’s last name a blunt lesson in the hygienic challenges of anal sex; the hunter who killed Cecil the lion got it really bad. >But trolling has become the main tool of the alt-right, an Internet-grown reactionary movement that works for men’s rights and against immigration and may have used the computer from Weird Science to fabricate Donald Trump. Not only does Trump share their attitudes, but he’s got mad trolling skills: he doxxed Republican primary opponent Senator Lindsey Graham by giving out his cell-phone number on TV and indirectly got his Twitter followers to attack GOP political strategist Cheri Jacobus so severely that her lawyers sent him a cease-and-desist order. >The alt-right’s favorite insult is to call men who don’t hate feminism “cucks,” as in “cuckold.” Republicans who don’t like Trump are “cuckservatives.” Men who don’t see how feminists are secretly controlling them haven’t “taken the red pill,” a reference to the truth-revealing drug in The Matrix. They derisively call their adversaries “social-justice warriors” and believe that liberal interest groups purposely exploit their weakness to gain pity, which allows them to control the levers of power. Trolling is the alt-right’s version of political activism, and its ranks view any attempt to take it away as a denial of democracy. >In this new culture war, the battle isn’t just over homosexuality, abortion, rap lyrics, drugs or how to greet people at Christmastime. It’s expanded to anything and everything: video games, clothing ads, even remaking a mediocre comedy from the 1980s. In July, trolls who had long been furious that the 2016 reboot of Ghostbusters starred four women instead of men harassed the film’s black co-star Leslie Jones so badly on Twitter with racist and sexist threats–including a widely copied photo of her at the film’s premiere that someone splattered semen on–that she considered quitting the service. “I was in my apartment by myself, and I felt trapped,” Jones says. “When you’re reading all these gay and racial slurs, it was like, I can’t fight y’all. I didn’t know what to do. Do you call the police? Then they got my email, and they started sending me threats that they were going to cut off my head and stuff they do to ‘N words.’ It’s not done to express an opinion, it’s done to scare you.” >Because of Jones’ harassment, alt-right leader Milo Yiannopoulos was permanently banned from Twitter. (He is also an editor at Breitbart News, the conservative website whose executive chairman, Stephen Bannon, was hired Aug. 17 to run the Trump campaign.) The service said Yiannopoulos, a critic of the new Ghostbusters who called Jones a “black dude” in a tweet, marshaled many of his more than 300,000 followers to harass her. He not only denies this but says being responsible for your fans is a ridiculous standard. He also thinks Jones is faking hurt for political purposes. “She is one of the stars of a Hollywood blockbuster,” he says. “It takes a certain personality to get there. It’s a politically aware, highly intelligent star using this to get ahead. I think it’s very sad that feminism has turned very successful women into professional victims.” >A gay, 31-year-old Brit with frosted hair, Yiannopoulos has been speaking at college campuses on his Dangerous Faggot tour. He says trolling is a direct response to being told by the left what not to say and what kinds of video games not to play. “Human nature has a need for mischief. We want to thumb our nose at authority and be individuals,” he says. “Trump might not win this election. I might not turn into the media figure I want to. But the space we’re making for others to be bolder in their speech is some of the most important work being done today. The trolls are the only people telling the truth.” >The alt-right was galvanized by Gamergate, a 2014 controversy in which trolls tried to drive critics of misogyny in video games away from their virtual man cave. “In the mid-2000s, Internet culture felt very separate from pop culture,” says Katie Notopoulos, who reports on the web as an editor at BuzzFeed and co-host of the Internet Explorer podcast. “This small group of people are trying to stand their ground that the Internet is dark and scary, and they’re trying to scare people off. There’s such a culture of viciously making fun of each other on their message boards that they have this very thick skin. They’re all trained up.”
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>>326878 >viciously making fun of each other Does the sjw dictionary contain the word 'banter'? >They’re all trained up. Wait, there are courses?
>>327185 >The author of the Time article doesn't understand internet culture and the ins and outs of it. Of course he doesn't and he knows it, what he knows is how to create clickbait
>>327219 > >They’re all trained up. > Wait, there are courses? Yes, I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces…

Legal question Veteran Leader 09/04/2016 (Sun) 02:08:31 Id: 010d36 No. 327605 [Reply]
So both twitter and intel pay femfreq, the first to be part of their bullshit “Trust and Safety Council” and the second as part of their diversity scheme thing Thing is femfreq sponsors CON and is in a partnership with them So, here's the question: considering what CON been doing and proof we got thanks to the leaks could twitter and intel be sued gawker-style for supporting and endorsing harassment and hate-speech? Any lawfags here?
IANAL but it is something that could be looked into. We would need to set out a list of specific examples of crimes with evidence. Didn't Derek Smart have the ear of an Intel VP about this? They cannot say that they were not warned.
>>327606 No idea but the whole situation with intel and their 300 gajillon fund for tech vaginas was half-assed and rushed as fuck, the fact that they fired a bunch of employees right after that shows you they couldn't even be arsed to call the accountants before giving away money to be bunch of cunts everybody is accusing of being scammers So both companies can pretend they didn't know but the damage is done, and gawker tried to play dumb too and that didn't get them out of having to pay for the damages So again it would be good to hear from lawfags because the way I see it this could be a class-action lawsuit from everybody targeted by CON against two companies that have a lot to lose from this

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Huffington Post Bans Journalist For Writing About Hillary’s Health Veteran Leader 08/29/2016 (Mon) 20:55:53 Id: ae3411 No. 327309 [Reply]
Huffington Post Bans Journalist For Writing About Hillary’s Health, Deletes Article The Huffington Post has sensationally censored an article pertaining to questions about Hillary Clinton’s health and banned the journalist who wrote it from posting on their website altogether. http://www.infowars.com/huffington-post-bans-journalist-for-writing-about-hillarys-health-deletes-article/ https://archive.is/ZDG0f Here's the article: https://archive.is/4evhr You can debate whether or not the story was worthwhile but it comes down to this: the article was killed to protect the image of a powerful politician and not because HuffPo suddenly discovered integrity for five minutes and then lost it again. HP has all sorts of bullshit health articles and goes after other politicians' health, but not Hillary. The double standard is the problem. If you have dirt on HuffPo, share it.
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While I love Hillary drama due to her link to SJW, this is barely GG related. However- the mods can decide if it's OK. I understand why you can't use /pol/ (heavy shilling/in-fighting/board sliding), but don't forget /8diamonds/.
>>327330 They have written fake news about us and other people and may be responsible for cucking moot, and it's not gg related?
From /v/ https://archive.is/5ohl2 > On a side note, Peter Coffin now has a job at the Huffington post > As what? Their realdoll industry correspondent? Any truth to this? They've done a few stories about an artist named Peter Coffin but that is probably a different person.

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OP: DISNOD ADVERTISER UPDATE 3-19-16 Acid Man 03/20/2016 (Sun) 03:25:09 Id: cc2154 No. 319778 [Reply] [Last]
KOTAKU Dreamhost.com Amazon.com Huckberry Playstation Store Target GAWKER Huckberry Hellofresh Chevrolet Amazon American Express Californiagurls.tv Note: Chevrolet is running full video banner ads on multiple pages. That = high priority target.

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>>324981 You are right, we are so close to stomping out the cancer. We have to confirm this dies for good.
>>324981 They are currently in a holding pattern right now. Should note that they filed for the "good" kind of bankruptcy. Chapter 11 bankruptcy basically lets you sell shit off but allows you to ultimately walk away fully intact and more to the point, gives the owner full control over how they sell shit off. Meaning, Denton could sell Kotaku and Jezebel and Deadspin off, plus dip into his own savings, to pay the amount of cash owed Hogan and keep Gawker going. Also, he can keep the business running and doesn't have to fire anyone. Chapter 7 is the BAD kind of bankruptcy. The kind that means you are fucked beyond all repair and hope of being saved and you owe so much money, you don't even fucking have a right to save what you can or even be picky in how things are sold off to pay the debts. If they had filed Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the court would force them to shut down EVERYTHING at Gawker and it's sub sites, because there is no fucking point in keeping them up and running since they are bleeding money they can't pay. A trustee is appointed by the court and they basically are given the task to sell EVERYTHING that can be sold; the website, the offices, even office equipment, to get cash ASAP to pay off the debts (in this case, the Hogan verdict money). Denton could not say a damn thing and the Gawker office would be stripped of everything, copper wire included, for whatever the trustee could get for it, with the trustee not giving a shit who he sells it too so long as he gets paid. Chapter 11 is basically "rehabilitation" bankruptcy since you can walk away from it relatively intact. Chapter 7 means you are irrevocably fucked and you can not be saved and are dead dead dead dead. Should be noted that sometimes companies in Gawkers position will file for Chapter 11 but are forced to go into Chapter 7 by the courts. Granted, those scenarios don't fit the Gawker position, since that happens when a company owes MULTIPLE creditors and are basically already dying and can't be saved. Denton having the cash to pay the verdict money probably helps him out in this regard, as far as the fact that the court will most likely assume that after selling off several of the websites, Denton will "save" Gawker by breaking into his own bank account once he has Kotaku/Jezabel/Deadspin/etc sold, to cover the difference and keep the main Gawker website afloat.
>>319825 Seven Figures you faggot And that doesn't take into account lost opportunities

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Ryulong perma-banned? Leader 12/09/2015 (Wed) 14:10:41 Id: 53d55c No. 308455 [Reply]
I just heard that the guy got kicked permanately of Rational Wiki, and that people (gamergaters) are asked to point out what is wrong in articles…..but no one has enough faith left. Can anyone confirm? Is the dragon dildo gone? Have we finally slain the dragon?
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>>308455 This seems like a good opportunity. So, anyone willing to wade in there? I think it would be wise to possibly register so that there's some measure of good-faith shown (though use a spam-proof email service just in case.) And be calm. Just go through each post and highlight where the inconsistencies are. No rhetoric, no spin, just use the cold-hard facts of the situation. Is there someone that has a panache for diplomacy that might be willing to try this? I know there were some gators kicking around in the first year that were consistently rational. Though, rather than spamming them directly en-masse, maybe just reach out to some of the head types and offer to go over the points that are in conflict and such. If we take the position of going over it all in one giant group it might put them on edge but if there's a diplomatic olive branch extended they may be more willing to see. That said, that is their fort so it is their final call so this might get heated so if you have really thick skin and can stay on target this might be an op for you to participate in. As always, be polite. If they lash out, just brush it off. We should be fucking old-hat at that shit by now given the bullshit that's been poured on us since the beginning (it sucks and I understand some folk need to decompress but this is one place where it's possible to break the narrative if we do it with patience and dignity.)
>>327551 Well, shit. This is what I get for not reading through the thread itself before posting. If dragon dildo is back at it again with the white vans then there's probably no hope left for the site unless you wanted to play the long game and point out the inconsistencies on other articles to build up a rapport.
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>>308461 >>310078 >tfw you're not and will never be dragondragon >>308812 >he's allowed to appeal in January, if that doesn't work then he can appeal again in January 2017 and so on less pleasing, but i'll take what I can get

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Morale Thread Veteran Leader 09/01/2016 (Thu) 04:13:28 Id: 6726b5 No. 327466 [Reply]
Never would have thought that after 2 years gamers would still truck on fighting off sjws and getting the word out on censorship issues. Truly gamers don't give up until something is won. Nothing but respect you guys. Also I wish this was updated after the Gawker death star blew up. It sure feels like the homestretch now.
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Gawker was the Death Star, but who were the Ewoks?
>>327466 Jim didn't betray us: He just deleted his Internet Aristocrat account and made a new one (MisterMetokur)
>>327515 Yeah and started to call us "Ethics-Cucks". He's cointelpro. Kick all e-celebs to the curb.

Feminist Courier 6 09/01/2016 (Thu) 04:36:09 Id: 1d8315 No. 327472 [Reply]
I was at home, quietly minding my own bizz, When out of nowhere a wild feminist appeared. It used hate speech. "Cis white male!" It was not effective. Then my tv turned on and I heard it say "Oh my god, That's Jason Borne!" I knew I had to get out of there. So I jumped onto the back of my tamed Danny DeVito and rode away to safety.
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You smell like a 12 year old… Can I touch you?

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HASTAC digging thread Leader 12/11/2015 (Fri) 03:22:45 Id: 61a18f No. 308863 [Reply]
Let's dig into HASTAC. Here is some early information on them from 2005. Leaders: https://web.archive.org/web/20050214021256/http://www.hastac.org/leadership.html * Cathy N. Davidson, Vice Provost for Interdisciplinary Studies at Duke University, co-founder of the John Hope Franklin Humanities Institute, and Ruth F. DeVarney Professor of English at Duke University * David Theo Goldberg, Director of the University of California Humanities Research Institute (UCHRI) and Professor of African-American Studies and of Criminology, Law, and Society at the University of California at Irvine * Jeffrey Schnapp, Director of the Stanford University Humanities Lab and Rosina Pierotti Chair in Italian Literature, Stanford University * Ruzena Bajcsy, Director of the Center for Information Technology Research in the Interest of Society (CITRIS) at the University of California, Berkeley * Tara McPherson, Editor, Vectors, and Chair and Associate Professor of Critical Studies in the School of Cinema-Television at the University of Southern California Institutions: https://web.archive.org/web/20050214021215/http://www.hastac.org/institutions.html * UCHRI * Stanford Humanities Lab * John Hope Franklin Center (Duke) * John Hope Franklin Humanities Institute (Duke) * Interdisciplinary Studies @ Duke * CITRIS (UC Berkeley)

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>>317560 USC annenberg… I know some people in that school. I just wanted fucking decent video games
Link between David Theo Goldberg and Celia Pearce http://www.ics.uci.edu/%7Ewscacchi/Presentations/GameLab/UCGameLab-2006.ppt Collaboration Infrastructures for GCT Robert Nideffer and Walt Scacchi Humanities Research Institute & GCTL Winter 2006 Slide 5 UCI Game Lab People (Faculty) * Studio Art: Robert Nideffer (Director), Antoinette LaFarge * Computer Science: Paul Dourish, Magda El Zarki, Dan Frost, Bonnie Nardi, Andre van der Hoek * Engineering: Tara Hutchinson, Falko Kuester, Joerg Meyer * Arts, Computation, Engineering: Beatriz de Costa, Simon Penny, Bill Tomlinson * Institute Software Research: Celia Pearce, Walt Scacchi (Research Director), * Others: Tom Boellstorf (Anthropology), Christopher Dobrian (Music), Peter Krappe (Humanities/Film Studies), Charlie Zender (Earth Systems Science)

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This is back in the news again: >>317557 > A team at USC Annenberg released a paper claiming that Hollywood is unfriendly to gays. https://archive.is/VJZBy That paper is being used to justify funding a project to give Hollywood diversity scorecards. This is going to the engineering department so maybe we'll get a laugh when Tay 2.0 tells them there are too many Jews. http://fusion.net/story/342226/google-algorithm-women-hollywood/ https://archive.is/vzgfF This Drinkwater guy also did work for Sarah Palin so it looks like he is just PR, nonpartisan. https://archive.is/06LdM They're connected to the new Bentonville Film Festival which is related to the Walmart Foundation. https://archive.is/PGFuu We have Arkansas and Walmart. There is a Clinton connection, I can guarantee that without looking. The question is whether it will be meaningful.

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Shillery is to speak on a certian "videogame contriversy" Thursday Veteran Leader 08/24/2016 (Wed) 08:02:14 Id: 5babb3 No. 326933 [Reply]
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/768277642281877504 http://archive.is/uqAAp It's not much to go on, but a certain Vice Journalist Blogger received word that: >HRC is set to deliver remarks Thursday condemning a nebulous group that traces its origins to a video game controversy nobody understands. NGee, whatever "videogame controversy" could this possibly mean? It may mean nothing, or GG may be alluded to, or not even mentioned at all, but it would be wise to brace for impact if a bunch of shills and normies come here based on what Shillery says on Thursday.
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>>327066 Stein's a tinfoil-clad antivaxxer. Like it or not, Clinton's it this time around. No shame in recognizing the winning team and joining up.
>>327101 >So did it happen? She didn't mention GG, which is good because it would have given the anti narratives more oxygen.
>>327101 >So did it happen? It was her "Alt Right are all racist meanies" speech, GG wasn't mentioned specifically, but apparently we're ALL alt-right …because …reasons. Also some fag shouted Pepe at shillery before being frogmarched out of the Public Community College speaking venue.

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Kotaku possibly increasing in shitness? Veteran Leader 08/30/2016 (Tue) 13:59:42 Id: 9284ba No. 327338 [Reply]
Returning GG'er here. I just had this discussion whereas someone implied that Kotaku will flourish under Univisions new lead. Considering they also purchased Jezebel and Gizmodo it appears they plan on targeting millenials which have been/are the primary audience of the former Gawker assets. I searched for Univision bias and it seems they are in bed with the democrat party so i wonder if more liberal pandering is to expect. I mean, im just taking wild guesses here but it seems they purposely report negative about Trump and conservatives. With GG having a reputation of being Trump supporters, Nationalists and all the other bullshit i could imagine that they increase the nonsense.
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I won't be surprise when they go lower than leaking sex tapes of four year olds.
In my opinion, this couldn't of gone any better. Univision of coarse supports Hillary. Trump would not be good for their business model and Hillary is well known for playing ball. They have everything to gain from handing her money and possible losses if Trump wins. As for the point at hand, Gawker properties, I wouldn't worry. Univision is trying to expand to a wider audience, but has always been careful with what it's target audience is, which is Latinos. They market their company specifically as the #1 place to reach Hispanics and Spanish speaking Americans. What they'll do is expand these newly obtained assets to reach a wider variety of their core audience, namely, dumb ass Millennial Hispanics who want to read about video games, feminism, and whatever the fuck Gizmodo does. I doubt they'll convert to Spanish immediately, but probably offer content in both languages, and slowly shift away from English when they find out just how unprofitable those properties are. In the end, I predict this will be the end of every non-spanish speaking blogger at those offices and a net gain for the world.
>>327339 >Okay, a /v/irgin said that this has already been discussed to death. Just wanted to say i'm not baiting. I was just out of the loop for quite some time. The people in the /v/ GG general tend to be shitposting faggots who don't want to talk about anything in depth because it gets in the way of their stale 2 year old memes and in-jokes. Don't take anything they say that seriously. I don't even know what the point of saying something has been discussed to death is since it's a temporary thread, and you'd have literally no life and no job to read every reply over the course of a week.

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August 2014 GamerGate timeline Veteran Leader 08/30/2016 (Tue) 04:57:53 Id: 3c9e53 No. 327334 [Reply]
Are there any events or important things that happened that should be added to this? https://medium.com/@KingFrostFive/gamergate-august-2014-revisited-3b41832c061b#.yijmt27ss
A couple of sites were forced offline for covering the news. TechRaptor was one. https://archive.is/X0054

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Reminiscing Nostalgia Thread (2014) Veteran Leader 08/29/2016 (Mon) 10:59:58 Id: d63f1f No. 327276 [Reply]
Was going through some stuff I had saved and I remembered Maximum Tacos. What ever happened to him and where is his video on Youtube? I can't find it anymore was it removed? It was gold.
>>327276 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRSd4jz5Mhw He privated it. Any way to download or view videos that were made private?

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Thanks to our leekers Veteran Leader of GamerGate 05/30/2016 (Mon) 05:30:06 Id: e14181 No. 324526 [Reply]
Here's a word of thanks to everyone on the inside who gave us leeks. Even if you couldn't back your shit up with evidence, we appreciate the infos. Stay safe and stay strong.
>>>pol/7281772 found something interesting: Planned Destruction of Alt-Right a chatlog of someone who knows the plans of Cass Sunstein and the Clinton campaign http://cultstate.com/2016/08/26/the-planned-destruction-of-the-alt-right/ Don't know if it's real or not, but it couldn't hurt to consider possible hostile tactics and prepare countermeasures. We would like to see more tasty leeks for our anniversary. CON Leaks >>327075 mmm, yummy
>>324526 Ian Miles Cheong confirmed it was legit.
>>327245 Ian Miles 'he's still not getting his ads back' Cheong confirmed it. Peter 'Real Wife' Coffin did too if I'm not mistaken. Randi Harper did not deny it, only tried to do damage control by downplaying it.

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VENGENCE! Max Read, Former Gawker editor-in-chief: GamerGate “most effective enemy” of Gawker Media Veteran Leader 08/21/2016 (Sun) 00:22:46 Id: 7d7594 No. 326826 [Reply]
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/08/did-i-kill-gawker.html http://archive.is/zWLHt http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/08/19/former-gawker-editor-no-enemy-effective-gamergate/ Here is it, GamerGate's legacy: We killed the Gawker. >Of all the enemies Gawker had made over the years — in New York media, in Silicon Valley, in Hollywood — none were more effective than the Gamergaters. >Gamergate, a leaderless online movement dedicated to enforcing its own unique vision of “ethics in journalism,” had first taken up with Gawker Media the summer before, in 2014. >Gamergate proved the power of well-organized reactionaries to threaten Gawker’s well-being. >And when Gawker really went too far — far enough that even our regular defenders in the media wouldn’t step up to speak for us — Gamergate was there, in the background, turning every crisis up a notch or two and making continued existence impossible. Proof-in-print that GamerGate's email campaign destabilized Gawker Media which, of-course, was finished by a leg-drop by the Hulkster in court who was being backed-up by fellow Gawker-victim-cum-exicutioner Peter Thiel. It's been two years but we did it!

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>>326900 >that image >those dubs I am laffin
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>>326881 >>326900 Why did they choos "Fuck that alligator" from all possible endings? Yeah, I know about the 2015 article which is unrelated to GG. Is it really about us?

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Assassins Creed Syndicate Undercover FBI Agent 11/27/2015 (Fri) 13:07:44 Id: 5a098e No. 301801 [Reply]
>Anita and her harpies raise a stink about Assassins Creed Unity not having the inevitable female protagonist in a main title >SJWsoft decides to include one in Syndicste because what is this the sixth, ninth, tenth PC/console game in the series with no gender and gender identity diversity >The girl is basically a stealthy British Marysue, whereas the brother is the muscle >You're supposed to take London back from the Templar street gangs >Interestingly enough, these street gangs include women >In Victorian London >That you're encouraged to beat to a bloody pulp Wow fuck historical accuracy. Is this the gender equality Anita would've wanted? Fistfights in this game can get pretty brutal. It's one of the better Sassins Creeds, right behind Black Flag. Just above 3. Probably better than Unity which I didn't bother with. No I didn't pay full price for it - I got it free with an SSD I bought.
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Here's more news, Ubisoft's official Tumblr blog has confirm that Jacob Frye is bi. I know that during that time period a guy like that has to hide this fact about themselves. I heard about Antia and her harpies complaining about Linkle, Bayonetta, Lara Croft, and Nadine (Uncharted 4) earlier (Or did ACS come first). (Heard good things about ACS, I'll play it. Since I like the time period).
Don't know why a post from 2015 was bumped, but here's what I think of her review of Syndicate. She praised the game for the inclusion of female characters including a strong female protagonist. But then she immediately bitches about how the female lead's story wasn't the dominate one. Then she complains about how there were "no female soldiers of colour." Obviously her ex boyfriend was hard at work here cranking up his Full McIntosh magic to write this review. But what stood out for me is the final paragraph of her review. "Syndicate deserves to be acknowledged for its cast of characters and particularly for its treatment of women." I know there's a video of her saying that she doesn't play games, but it's painfully obvious she never sat down to play Syndicate. The reason for this being, I cannot begin to describe how many women you stab in that game. Either as the female protagonist Evie or the male protagonist Jacob, you stab lots and lots of women. You'd think Anita Sarkeesian would have been bitching up a storm over this detail. But nope, she's just happy that a triple a game developer took her ex boyfriend's bullshit seriously.
>>301801 >Just above 3 That's not saying much since 3 was absolute shit.

Smart people who don't look past the boogeyman Veteran Leader 08/27/2016 (Sat) 18:23:25 Id: 3d98ea No. 327137 [Reply]
I listen to a couple of anime and gaming related podcasts. This one recently mentioned that Otakon had a gamergate-related panel, "Politics in Video Games". https://www.otakon.com/events_schedule_detail.asp?eventID=25&id=49102 Oddly, I don't see any mention of it here. http://www.anigamers.com/podcasts/064-cannon-busters-under-the-dog-eating-contests-otakon-2016 Skip to 58:45 for relevant section The hosts and guests on the podcast include people that I consider to be pretty smart. They present multiple informative, well-researched panels at multiple conventions. These are people who go deep enough to know about the production staff and sometimes stories about the creation process in the new and old anime they discuss. People who don't subscribe to the regressive idea that violent video games or violent anime/cartoons are harmful to society. People who call out bullshit business practices when they see it from media and games companies. People who see nuance and gradients where others might see black and white. And yet, the reaction when the GG label comes up is the usual harassment mob of misogyny. The main concern is "how was this panel allowed in otakon, and are the organizers aware so it's never allowed again?" without regard to whether or not the panel might have had valid information or the quality of its delivery. Granted, it may well have been a shitshow judging by the description alone but neither me nor anyone on the podcast actually attended the panel and there is no recording that I have seen online. My point is in the discussion they create this cartoonish caricature of a hate-spewing ogre, card-carrying member of the Little Rascals' He-Man Woman Haters Club, ridiculous to the point that it makes me question how someone wouldn't stop for a moment and consider if this image is maybe a bit overblown. I have difficulty reconciling the fact that these generally well-informed people would ignore or dismiss things like the evidence of media bias and continued demonizing of games. Did they meet one too many actual autists in person or online that reinforced the image? Is their knowledge of GG based entirely on just what they read on mainstream publications and their contacts in the industry? Is the idea of complaining about biased journalism and industry mutual back-scratching considered just stupid as a whole when admittedly, there are bigger problems in the world to be concerned with than things like sex scenes removed on english localized games?
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Many people simply don't have the info we do. The online censorship was very effective.
Most people just watch and listen to whatever the mainstream says to listen to without actually going and looking at what is beyond the news story. When Wikileaks dropped I remember my mother telling me "wow can you believe he raped those women what a monster!" But when I told her what had happened and how bogus the rape charge was, she actually got upset. I remember her saying in particular "We would have crucified Jesus and not even thought twice about it." A lot of people who are not in the know are well meaning but they don't get their information from reliable sources, or the information is crafted to portray a specific narrative. It's why Trump is being called a KKK member because David Duke likes him while Clinton praised a former Grand Wizard who was her mentor and is getting no issues for that. The same principle applies to Gamergate. In the end, a lot of smart people are just not willing to challenge their own beliefs that they might be wrong, or challenge what is being told to them,
>>327139 >Actual integrity is, sadly, quite rare. As an aside, integrity is often conflated with ethical behavior, when it's not always the case. Not everyone who claims to have ethics in mind has integrity, but those who do have integrity will always be ethical. >>327146 >The online censorship was very effective. Mainly because people self-censor themselves for various reasons, whether they be unwilling or unable to have their preset notions challenges, or unable or unwilling to open up their minds to alternative viewpoints, or just plain apathy & laziness.

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