How do you stream?

>>1548 Create an account, and then a channel. Each account can host multiple channels. Then, visit your channels page and select the channel you want to stream on. It should expand into a network graph. Look for the settings gear on the left. This page will provide a stream link and key. The format is rtmp://watch.8ch.moe/stream/[stream key]. You can drop that into anything that supports streaming media. OBS is the obvious example, but I've been doing my test streams just using FFMPEG. I believe the encoding must be H.264 MP4. It's recommended you set there to be 1 keyframe per second. Once you start streaming, it will automatically go live.

Streams don't seem to load over any tor connections.

>>1551 I haven't done any testing with Tor and can't guarantee it will work. There's very little information on sending RTMP streams through Tor. What little I can find implies it is possible, but it might require streams sending at a lower bitrate. Enabling adaptive bitrates might solve this. I'll do some testing in the near future to see if I can identify the problem and get Tor working, but since streaming is high-bandwidth and requires low latency, I can't promise I'll ever get it working 100%.

>>1551 >>1555 I did a bunch of research into this a while back while considering a censorship-proof, tor-based youtube type site. The max average streaming bandwidth you have over tor is ~300kbps. It can be done, but its gonna be hard.

>>1555 >>1556 It seems to be working more or less fine now. Probably some stupid tor node bullshit. I recalled watching Mark's election night stream just fine over tor so it was weird it wasn't working.

Can you stream vidya?

>>1559 Well I'm glad it's working. I still can't guarantee it'll always work, especially not for every stream, but I'm glad it's working sometimes. >>1567 You can stream anything you'd like. OBS works with it out of the box. It's recommended to set it to 1 keyframe every second because this is what the server is optimized for. It works just like any other streaming service. You're welcome to stream anything that doesn't violate US law.

>>1569 How should the settings look exactly I'm still not sure if I'm doing it right. My stream looks a bit better than it did at first with these settings that i got to through some trial and error but i still don't know what I'm doing could be missing something obvious because i haven't really done much streaming. The most annoying thing was the color, in my preview the color looks perfect but in the stream itself the color was slightly off. In the game the red of some outfits looked orange and for anime the colors were a bit more saturated and maybe darker. Not sure if it was actually an issue or my eyes are playing tricks on me or it is the monitor i had the stream on.

>>1572 As far as I know, the server isn't doing anything to video streams. I'd compare the preview side-by-side with the stream on the same monitor to verify colors are different. If there's a difference from your source file, the issue is probably with OBS. I'd cap the bitrate at 3500 Kbps, which is what the server' is (supposed to be) capped at, and maybe disable Psycho Visual Tuning in case it's playing with color values. But changing the bitrate and keyframes really shouldn't affect color that much. It sounds a lot more like a difference between two monitors. My secondary monitor is washed out and has terrible color reproduction, but it's not obvious until I compare something on both.

I surprise how easy it is to set it up.

I went ahead and created a board specifically for listing/shilling your channel, organizing events etc. Please come visit >>>/watch/!

Is there a way to disable the chat box, I'd like to watch some movies with some anons but we don't want to use the chat box for complete anonymity.

Its be careful with how you do emotes/images, cytube has run into a bit of potential security concerns with whatever ranging file hosts. Maybe whitelist it outright to known legit hosts.

>>1617 The chat was disabled by default for me had to tun it on.

The 8chan stream service says 500 internal server error.

>>1627 I was just about to say the same. I paused the stream and said something on mic in case it was still working for some. According to OBS I'm still streaming. I noticed everyone suddenly left so i refreshed thinking it had to be an error then I got the 500.

>>1627 >>1628 I have rebooted the server and doubled the toaster's power as a precautionary measure. I'll dig through the laws and try to figure out what happened.

>>1627 >>1628 >>1629 The software relies on Redis, and it ran out of memory. I've allocated more RAM to the VPS and rebooted. Should be fine for another couple months at least. Since the site has a decent following, I'll look into building my own hardware for it. This will allow higher bitrates and adaptive streaming, among other features.

I don't know if it's possible to delist sites of your own accord from search engines but I'd consider doing it if possible. The DMCA sniffers corporations have are getting increasingly advanced and now scan livestreams in real time on (((twitch))) for any (((copyrighted))) music and take instantly submit takedown requests when they detect anything. At some point you could see them even submitting auto takedowns over copyrighted images and shit.

The "forgot password" page only send me to 500 error page when I finished input my email address

>>1633 And no email send to the address

>>1633 Forgot to reconfigure that after the last install. Give me a bit to map it to an SMTP server. >>1631 I can add a robots.txt that asks scrapers to not visit. Scrapers can choose to visit anyways. I'll go ahead and do so. And possibly add user agent detection so their bots need to deliberately fake being a user.

I don't know how easy it would be to implement but i think a theater mode like twitch has would be nice.

>>1519 Is the software behind watch.8chan.moe open source? Willing to contribute and interested in running my own instance.

>>1710 Yes. I didn't write it but am working on my own contributions to push upstream. You can find their website here: https://openstreamingplatform.com/ (https://archive.is/8uiHv) And their github is here: https://gitlab.com/Deamos/flask-nginx-rtmp-manager Unfortunately, their developer chat is in (((Discord))), so be aware they might expect you to communicate through that. >>1709 This might be possible to add via the theme manager. >>1633 >>1634 >>1637 Still haven't configured SMTP; my apologies. Webring took up most of my time this week. I'll work on improving this service soon.

>>1711 Awesome, thanks.

Its been brought up by some viewers a couple times that they'd like quality options since they have poo internet and can't always stream source. I think 2 options should probably do it. Source quality and 480p.

>>1779 I've enabled Adaptive Streaming, so it should now try to provide multiple streams. Let me know if it's not working, or if the toaster explodes from the stress.

>>1779 >>1786 Adaptive streaming has been disabled once again. The server has enough horsepower for about 2 streams and that's it. 3 pushes it to 100% CPU. I need hardware with a dedicated GPU or a much beefier CPU. I'll see if I can tweak it to only generate one alternative bitrate per stream, which might keep things manageable.

500 Internal Server error during UT stream.

>>1799 Twitch does some major dangling transcoding at streamers with partnering, affiliates, and other sketchy garbage they hide. Maybe just a live viewer count # trigger would be acceptable.

Clicking the "my channels" leads to a 500 internal server error been like this since the whole site died a couple days ago and haven't been able to get to my settings to grab my stream key since i changed my settings in OBS for twitch and when i tried to switch back the settings for streaming here they had reset.

>>1849 This sometimes happens when the chat module fails. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. It was working when I brought the server up, but sometimes it just fails. I'll try kicking it once the Uncommon Time stream is over for the night.

>>1849 >>1850 The chat daemon has been slapped and should behave now. At least, I can access my channel list again. If you continue to have problems, let me know.

Is there a way to link 8ch streams to cytube?

>>1889 Yes. From a channel's page, find the "Share" option (can be in different places depending on if chat is enabled or not) and there should be an iFrame Embed option. Copy that. On Cytube, there is an "Embed iFrame" option next to the Embed Media button. Paste the HTML you copied earlier and it should embed. There are some issues with scrollbars. You can fix these with CSS by disabling overflow. Might also be able to reduce the size of the embedded object a little by playing with the width and height parameters. It seems like Cytube expects a particular size and the streaming platform defaults to one slightly too large.

Just tested this earlier, there's about half a minute of delay, which is the same thing I experience on peertube instances that allow live streaming... Is there any way this can be optimized for low latency? If not, are there any other services that are?

>>2138 Possibly. It's running on a toaster in the simplest possible configuration. I am looking at other options, but it will require some time and money.

>>2139 Alright no problem. I found some other pieces of software aside from OSP that may be of interest to you (all FOSS): https://github.com/benwilber/boltstream https://github.com/GRVYDEV/Project-Lightspeed https://git.waldn.net/git/knotteye/satyr https://jitsi.github.io/handbook https://datarhei.github.io/restreamer https://github.com/ossrs/srs https://github.com/Red5/red5-server https://github.com/ant-media/Ant-Media-Server (fork of Red5) https://github.com/DDVTECH/mistserver (proprietary but with an "open source core") https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton (web conferencing) https://owncast.online (built around a one user system) https://github.com/streamlinevideo/low-latency-preview (more of a tech demo)

Site machine broke

>>2191 I just ran the renewal script; something must have broken. I'll take care of it.

>>2191 >>2192 Webserver just needed a restart. Should be good now.

Does it still stream these days or just a random chatroom?

>>2216 We just had some streams today.

It would be great if under "My channels" list the actual channel link would be displayed, right now I had to figure it out by going to the homepage, leave the "search channels" blank and enter my channel through that way, which is counter intuitive in my opinion.

Fix your damn broken shit, one anon wanted me to watch his strim and in Firefox Nightly 90a it's The Buffering Community, while in Chromium Portable 92 it's Haiti Earthquake on player auto resizing 10 times per second. This is trully a pig farmer-tier striming solution. Not the fault of the strimer anon as he ran a twatch strim to rule out issues with his upload or whatever.

>>2291 console logs FIX YOUR SHIT

>>2291 >>2292 Looks like a client side issue. Did you try using ie9?

Is it possible to get some kind of support for people who don't use Javascript? Right now all of the pages are empty. I'm not expecting to get video streaming to work, but just having a list of videos / streams / channels available and being able to browse them would be good.

>>2887 The site itself is pretty reliant on JavaScript and I don't think there's a way to change that. However, you can connect to video streams via RTMP. Here's an example: Take a stream URL: https://watch.8ch.moe/view/12345/ Swap HTTP to RTMP, "view" to "live", and add the port (1935) after the domain: rtmp://watch.8ch.moe:1935/live/12345 You can drop this into VLC or some other media players to view the content directly without ever visiting the web page.

Please do something about fucking kazu.

>>2925 No fucking way.

>>3121 Oh I see this faggot baited me into posting that image.

>>2191 This issue has happened again.

>it should provide a stream link and key Key yes link no. Also recording disabled due to missing role. What is that. What am I missing here.

>>3347 Nevermind got it all figured out.

there's the TV thing why isn't it in the front page? why aren't there any vidya streams? a shame that it's dead promote it more like put it on the front page and encourage anons to use it

Nigger tongue my anus

SHITS FUCKED ACID YOU FUCKED UP AND RUINED A SOKUNAGGER TOURNEY WITH YOUR GAY INTERRACIAL SHIT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT kthnx bye t. teen

REEEEEEEE! FUCK YOU ACID AND MORK! STOP INTERRUPTING OUR STREAM!

>>3424 Wtf I love mark now?!

>>3427 it be shoop original image had a bing bing wahoo game on it

>>3428 >>3427

>>3428 Nooooooo You don't say Wow Im soooooo shocked and awed

So it seems to work ok, but Tor niggers complain about a lot. And someone said the JS was shitty. That is all the feedback I got for you.

>I just noticed how large the stream window is >it doesn't resize <True >so on a 1440p screen I don't see the whole thing in my browser >I could fullscreen it but then there's no chat <Click the fullscreen button <Oh no chat <I say we yell at Codexx. He wont fix it but we will feel better

>>3718 And this conversation you are quoting occured between two anonymous individuals.

>>3719 Yeah, of course. Me and Vampyr.

>>3720 ... Nice anon. Thanks.

>>3721 lmao no problem man.

>>3718 I'll probably attempt a software upgrade this week and see if that helps. Failing that, it seems like PeerTube might end up with more functionality faster than OpenStreamingPlatform. They hadn't announced it when I launched, but now that it exists and is stable I might look into jumping ship.

>>3723 That extra functionality doesn't seem to include an android app. Anon I can't compile shit. Leave osp as an option please.

>>3723 Looks like it's only media in 4:3 that has player resolution issues. Widescreen aspect ratios work fine.

>>1519 >it's currently streaming stargate season 1 You're gonna get sued for pirating like all those bootleg anime streaming sites that've been killed over the years

>>3739 I will respond to DMCA requests within a reasonable timeframe.

>>1519 Is it possible to embed the video inside an iframe tag on a external website?

So when is streams going to be saved again?

OSP is such hot dogshit, please switch to something else you freaking nerds. It's borderline unusable and the site seems to choke when there's more than a couple streams at the same time. I really want to use this but in its current state there's no way around it, users can't even set stream quality and everyone's on buffer limbo unless the stream has a really low bitrate. Here's a cute watermelon doggo to grab your attention

>>3970 I'm debating a switch to PeerTube. But the underlying problem is that the site runs on a toaster, and video processing is intensive. I was planning to build a server for it this year, but I will have to wait for CPU and GPU prices to return to normal. >>3969 That was never allowed because I don't have the disk space for it. >>3968 Yes. Click on the "share" button (it's the weird one with three connected dots" and it should provide you with embed options. It's a set size and doesn't always play nicely with resizing, though.

>>3971 I'll wait patiently then, thanks for taking your time and replying. The demand for a freer Twitch-esque site is definitely there. I'll keep using it on the meantime as is but streams will have to remain 400kbps 480p.

>>3971 Well that's frustrating. But sometime maybe even early next year we might see improvement at least? That's something anyway. Your still a nerd

>>3971 What about the site banner? The one you use to plug new boards and /vhs/ movie night? I see anons start streaming and not know where to advertise. There should be a script to auto advertise whoever is currently streaming. And the link to the streaming site itself is hidden. That is a common comment I get. That could be right on the front page. All in all if we aren't getting hardware support this year could we at least get some ad support? Help get the streams out there.

>>3976 Those are good ideas. I'd like to see them implemented as well.

I may do a video game stream today and tomorrow. They are test ones so no one is invited. If it goes well, then I might invite anons for future ones. Still figuring out audio for a screencapped notebook and handheld.

>>4020 check the audio settings where it says get a life under composite stereo downsampling

>>4021 That didn't work

Something something certificate expired. On a game stream I did recently,the chatbox never got out of loading. I want to continue using this but these issues need to be ironed out.

>>4258 Weird, the cert updated but it failed to reboot the webserver. I'll investigate. Sorry about that. Update coming soon. I've been debating getting some better hardware but was hoping prices would come down by now. I'll probably update the software as a stopgap. Maybe next year GPUs will be affordable again and I can really invest.

>>4260 If you use letsencrypt: 1. Find the certificate name, "sudo certbot certificates" (it will just be watch.8ch.moe unless you have the subdomain included with the main cert for 8ch.moe) 2. Create a renewal hook file in /etc/letsencrypt/renewal-hooks/deploy/watch.8ch.moe.pem: #!/bin/bash CERT_NAME="watch.8ch.moe" #certificate name [[ $RENEWED_LINEAGE != "/etc/letsencrypt/live/$CERT_NAME" ]] && exit 0; #only continue for the specific certificate name sudo systemctl restart nginx #or whatever your web server is You can customize it to suit your needs quite easily.

>>4265 I already have a script covering it. Seems like the certs are renewing themselves just fine. The software relies on a custom build of nginx that sometimes requires fiddling with. I've hopefully got it working now. We'll see if the cronjob fails again in a few months.

Stupid question does sit track your IP,is it possible to stream using somehow TOR,(even if it would go slow as heck)?

>>4274 I don't think you'd be able to get the bandwidth needed over Tor, but you may have some luck with a VPN. There's some logging of connections (including IPs) but these are rotated regularly.

Thanks ,recommend any VPN or some sort of IP hide that doesn't store logs?.>>4275

>>4278 Nord and Mullvad are highly rated. Depending on how you pay for the latter, they won't have your name on record anywhere.

>>1519 I really enjoyed the Snootgame stream today. Keep developing this website, it's great!

getting this when Start Stream. I put the stream key with & w\o the full rtmp:\\ url prefixed, no worky.

>>4324 Get a new stream key and put it in. I think its a bug I've had it happen to me a few times.

>>4326 tried multiple times & no use

>>4328 Did you refresh the page after getting the new key because I recall needing to do that for the new key to be accurate and work. If that doesn't fix it I think it must be another issue.

>>4324 >>4326 >>4328 >>4329 The keys can be a bit buggy and desync. Try saving the settings and refreshing the page. If the problem persists, let me know and I will investigate.

Ok, none of this makes any sense to me. The address does nothing, not even with the stream key, and none of the options in the channel page, even on the gear tab, say "start streaming" or "go to room" or whatever. I don't understand how to start the stream, even get the room going, so I can't test to see if it works. A step by step guide would be appreciated. I got OBS up and running, but that's it.

How much bandwidth can I use? Is the server still set to use one keyframe?

I've been having an issue with some streams just endlessly buffering and the stream never starting. It doesn't affect all streams just some of em. Really weird. Its not my internet or the browser. I tried multiple. Pretty sure its a site issue.

>>4354 A number of users have described this issue, but I've been unable to narrow it down to a particular configuration. Please try pasting the RTMP link into VLC and see if that has any issues. It seems like some operating systems have outdated libraries for handling stream data.

>>4346 1 keyframe per second is recommended, yes. As for bandwidth, I think I capped it at 3.5 Mbps, but I'd recommend going lower to 2.5 or even 1.5 until I can configure adaptive streaming. >>4339 I'll write up a guide once I upgrade the software.

>>4358 It might be anons streaming at more than 3500 bitrate. An anon was streaming at 10k and when he lowered it, it started working for me. It doesn't affect everyone but their was another anon in the stream that had the same issue as me. My internet should be good enough for that at least at this time of day I can watch 4k youtube. Just a uninformed guess but maybe streaming above the 3500 cap breaks something in some way. I've got the most recent updates for windows 10, browsers and everything needed for a PC. Speedtests showed I was getting 15 MBs down.

CODEX WAKE UP YOU SLEEPY MAN

I don't see any VODs, videos or clips on the service yet Are there no options to save those yet?

>>4408 No, the toaster doesn't have enough disk space available for everyone to get an allocation. Additionally, having only streams means everything is ephemeral, which is probably more appropriate for an imageboard streaming service. I won't say it will never be an option, but it's going to require a massive hardware upgrade. I'm tentatively planning to throw money at it in the next year. Maybe when Zen 4 drops?

>>4409 Just putting out an idea but maybe an option to save a stream for like a day or two to give time to export it to bitchute or something for archive and then its deleted from the server? i would imagine a 1 or 2 terabyte used or refurbished HDD for like 20 bucks would be more than enough than the site could ever use at current usage and even if it got 5x bigger I don't think it would get close to full.

>>4278 You could try Lokinet if you don't want to pay for a VPN or you are worried about them building a profile about you. It's like Tor but nodes are incentivised with crypto which is supposed to make the network faster.

>>1519 >Chat is built around XMPP, so you can connect with any Jabber client. How do I do that? I didn't see anything.

The site is down.

what is this?

>>4409 >ephemeral shit is more fitting for an imageboard >on an imageboard where "archiving" is pretty much part of the culture I disagree, but as long as its a possibility for the future I won't complain too much How about an option where a DL of the stream is temporarily available (if the stream is within a decided filesize limit to prevent abuse) and it gets wiped after 24-48 hours or so? That should largely avoid the space issue and give anons to at least personally save the streams.

I keep getting disconnected and have to reset my stream key. Every time. Do you know what's happening? Anything the server logs can tell you?

>>4440 The disconnects are probably on your end, but the stream keys have a tendency to break if streams are not ended cleanly. If it continues after the next software upgrade then post again or shoot me an e-mail and I'll see if it can be fixed.

>>4441 Thank you for responding, I'll make sure to let you know.

Software Upgrade Completed The site is now on the latest stable release. There have been a bunch of stability improvements, bug fixes, and changes that affect the API and server-side configuration. On the user-facing side, the two big features are Reactions/Emotes/"Stickers" in chat and guests can now name themselves similar to Cytube. I will accept submission for global reactions. Additionally, they can be set per-channel under Channels -> Select a channel -> Chat (speech bubble icon) -> Chat Stickers. You can also selectively disable guests joining, or picking their own names, from this menu.

>>4454 I'm having trouble streaming with OBS. A few hours ago, I streamed with no problem, but after trying to start another test stream with the same settings after the site update, it couldn't connect. I tried to log back into the site to refresh the stream key to see if that would fix it, but I couldn't log in. I made another account with the same username and email expecting the site to stop me, as that name had already been taken, but it let me create a new account under that same username. After refreshing the stream key, OBS still won't let me stream.

>>4454 I get this when I try to see the chat. Its appears on all channels for everyone for me, including my own. This would sometimes appear but a refresh would fix it. Nothing seems to make it go away so I assume its broke. Only issue I've found so far.

My internet picked today to run like molasses, so bear with me while I fix things. >>4456 I'm investigating this now. The chat daemon gets grumpy a lot. >>4455 I'll check this out next. Worth pointing out that the login page now uses your e-mail and not your username for security's sake, so be sure you're not typing your username in. Not sure why you'd be able to duplicate names, though. The DB was carried over.

>>4457 >>4456 >>4455 Chat looks like it's back up. I also can't stream. Probably not properly listening on the right port. Trying to figure out why. Sorry for the inconvenience.

>>4454 >stickers You planning to add this back? It seems fun.

Oh cool there's a new update! Will be testing this out later, thanks Codexx!

>>4454 Still waiting on that sticker update, hope the toaster can handle it.

So I'm currently live streaming but it doesn't show the amount of people that's currently watching my livestream. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the meaning of the icons? Idk. This is my channel, by the way: https://watch.8ch.moe/view/69b192ad-d74e-45fe-8c55-48203ec04a3c/

>>4535 The eyeballs should be current viewers but I've found it can take time to update or be somewhat glitchy. The update might fix it, when I find the time to debug the streaming issue. Apologies for the delay on that, by the way.

I've read on OSP site that you can set it up to restream. I'm trying to restream to a peertube instance, but nothing seems to be working. It's very possible that it could be the wrong address, but I've already tried a few (see image). Is there some way to verify that it is, in fact, not connected so I at least know that it's my fault?

>>4551 Ok, bro, np

I livestreamed only on December 12 according to the statistics there was live viewers during the week eventhough I didn't streamed anything, Is this a bug or my channel stream key got compromised and there's someone livestreaming on my channel without my permision?

>>4577 I think it counts if someone clicks on the channel even if only briefly and the channel is offline. That still counts as a view.

>>2191 Happened again.

>>4454 >guests can now name themselves How?

password reset is broken. what do?

How do I remove popular boards from top tool bar?

>>4705 Yeah I want to know too.

Is it possible to have more topics? I'm currently hosting a podcast and a radio on 8BS and I don't really like to just put "other" as the category of my channels.

>>4797 Sure. What topics would you like? Just a radio/podcast one, or did you have a broader selection in mind?

>>4806 A category for podcast and another for radio is fine to me.

I know the update has been mega-delayed. Fixing it turned into a bigger ordeal than expected. I've opted to scrap it (for now) since there's a 0.9 release coming soon. Additionally, I'm looking at options for a server upgrade, and expect to launch within the next six months. I might hold out for a 1.0 release and a hardware refresh, which should occur within the next six months. I would relish a fresh start; some of the earlier updates left artifacts and oddities with the configuration that make maintaining it hard. >>4807 I've added each of those.

>>4840 Exciting news! Looking forward to it.

>>4840 Thanks for the update.

>>4840 kys you're worse than niggers

I think this is a page's bug. The offline looks just fine inside the webpage but inside an embed it looks like pic related https://watch.8ch.moe/view/69b192ad-d74e-45fe-8c55-48203ec04a3c/ Could you please check it out?

>>4937 Every channel has a number of different images that it can use, including an offline image. I think that's all this is.

Yo, we've had a 500 Internal since sunday 27.02. Are the servers ok or are you doing hardware upgrades?

Site is down, man. Could you please check it out?

Codexx, you site is a piece of shit! For some reason, it seems like stream do better with consistent upload if you make a new stream link every single week.

>>5050 Not wrong. It runs on a toaster and the software is out of date and unfinished. Both a software and hardware update will happen soon. And by soon, I mean probably around Quarter 3 when new hardware releases.

>>5060 Okay, until the update six months from now, what advise can you offer in regards to having streams become more stable? On my end, it seems like everything works fine for the first 40 minutes, then upload speeds drop to zero. And, the closest thing I can find to a workaround is making an entirely new stream (Refreshing the stream key doesn't solve it), which solves the issue for about an hour, then speed drops again.

>>5062 Sir please, have you tried turning your key off and then back on again sir.

>>5062 I've been livestreaming just fine during the last couple of weeks so maybe it's your settings, have you tried checking out your stats?

>>5102 I think it may be a problem with my internet itself. Because, a few of the times I was testing and streaming, it seems like my internet throttles the upload after a certain point, and my only option is just power on through it, and it doesn't proceed to throttle it later in the day.

>>5105 Ah I see sir so your problem is resolved thank you. Please to be redeeming sir.

Getting more 500 errors. Been like that for almost ten hours now. Lost out on a new stream this morning because of a sudden 500. Can you look into it?

>>5214 Three hours later, still getting those errors, too.

Just wanted to post an update that the site is working like normal now.

Tried streaming jackbox and let other anons join in. The delay is massive on both mine and their end,streaming is sadly unusable. Not sure whether you can do anything about it.

>>5325 How significant is the delay? My experience is that it's about 8-15 seconds, at best, but that's over a shitty wifi connection.

>>5326 At least 8 seconds,on wired internet. Doesn't seem to depend on the connection speed,others have reported this as well.

Hey, codexx, is there any chance you can add an option that places chat on the left side of the screen without popping it out?

>>5421 I will look into this, since i would prefer it myself. But I wouldn't expect any major changes until after the major update. I am primarily waiting on new hardware to release for that, so maybe some time later this year.

Two suggestions. Hyperlinks for links posted in chat so we don't need to highlight and open in new tab, and highlighting your username if someone says it so its easier to see if someone is trying to get your attention.

News about Ryzen 7000 dropped today. They're still targeting Fall 2022, but there's no specific date. Hardware upgrade is on schedule. >>5480 Same as above, I'd like to see these features. My first priority is the hardware (and software) upgrade and then I will look into UI improvements.

How much money does it cost to run 8BS?

Broke

Another suggestion. When the streams buffer the selected volume is reset to max, often this can be deafening. I'd like for it to save the last set volume if it buffers.

Some one, whether themselves or a bot, was spamming the chat during the Xbox stream: https://watch.8ch.moe/view/26985367-f948-4c5a-8da9-bc85a4cdb21d/ Could there be better tolls to prevent this?

Can we have private mode? unindexed streams?

FIX YOUR SHIT

>>6229 Should be possible. >>6613 Upgrade is sooner than later and that should resolve 90% of regular site issues.

8chanTV >500 Internal Server Error >Something went wrong.... >The error was: <500 Internal Server Error: The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application.

I got a damn trojan warning, and all the streams refuse to play on brave browser. Works on firefox and mobile, however.

These three streams are borked.

>>6661 Didn't get the trojan warning but I absolutely have the problem of the site not working with Brave. Tried disabling all the defensive options, F5'd, and it still didn't work.

>>6663 >Brave LMAO

Why does it seem like the site has become more unstable lately?

>>6662 This happens during crashes/resets when streams are running. The stream ends because site dies, but it's not alive to be aware of it, and it doesn't update this status. I am optimistic that the upgrade will solve this issue. More below. >>6663 I'll look into this. >>6675 Probably because, despite running on a toaster, the service continues to grow in popularity. I will be throwing a bunch of resources into an upgrade soon, but am waiting on a new hardware release cycle. Upgrade Status AMD is on track to release new CPUs in coming weeks. I will be surveying the landscape then and start pricing out components. nVidia is assmad the crypto market crashed so they're not going to let anyone play with their new toys for up to six months. They might still release 4090s. I'm not waiting another half a year for them to get their shit together, so once the rest of the hardware is locked in I will just have to accept what is available at a reasonable price.

>>6686 RDNA 3 should come out in november, right?

>>6743 Sure, they're on track and a better buy, but for 99.9% of cases where you're running a GPU on a server you need CUDA support.

It hasn't crashed, but RIP bandwidth I guess.

watch.8ch.moe is ded Been dead all day. Reset when?

>>6956 It's finally back up. Thanks.

So, apparently the site has been crashing because of traffic from Cuckchan.

>>6961 KICK THEM OUT!

>>6961 Genuinely, we need these fuckers gone. They're a bunch of parasites taking up all of the bandwidth during peak hours and preventing actual 8chan users from using the site properly. I don't give a fuck if they're not breaking the law, they need to get out as soon as yesterday. Hell, we need an 8chan user only rule. No cuckchanners, no forumfags, no redditors, just 8chan users.

troubles with chat again, it won't connect. >>6961 >>6962 >>6963 >cuckchanners using OUR streaming service kill them, now. Just nuke their stream. The cowards don't even have chat on.

Why are you fags so angry that there is more people using your streaming service? shouldn't you be happy they are using alternatives instead of the shithole that is Twitch >But evil cuckchanners uses too much traffic, it should be only for my imageboard friends The hardware has been shit since day one, that isn't a surprise for anyone, Codexx himself mentioned it. And even then it's still far more stable than other options out there like Angelthump.

>>6966 NO CUCKCHANNERS NO /tv/

>>6967 Frankly, man, I don't give a shit. I'm too old for that kind of stuff, as long they behave I don't care where they come from.

>>6961 Get rid of these freeloaders asap. >>6968 >I'm too old You're the newest of newfags.

>>6969 Maybe I'm saying this because since I'm a mod I can just ban the people who gets too annoying instead of reporting and waiting if I were a regular user but I just think imageboard fights are dumb. Nevertheless the site needs to organically grow, so people getting to know this place because of the streaming service is fine to me.

>>6970 The problem is the niggers aren't using the site to stream on it, they are using it to bounce their cytube off of, preventing anybody from using the actual site when they are streaming, it's essentially a DDoS.

>>6970 They aren't using the site and likely never will as we're considered a mere projector for them to parasitize. And while the site has always been held together by spit and a prayer, they alone are currently harming the site's functionality; their streams break chat site-wide even when they're offline, their streams break other streams, their streams prevent people from signing in and/or accessing channel settings (which can keep a stream offline if you need to reset your stream key), their streams slow the site to a fucking crawl, and they stream 3-4 times a week for 8~ hours. Peak hours, too. Lastly, their numbers are fucking huge--outnumbering the regulars by a huge degree--and capable of engendering a culture shift that I'm certain no one here wants were they to actually use the site. Them not actually using the site is, in my mind, the only saving grace of this. I don't want them here because I think they're fundamentally incompatible with most of the userbase and their numbers mean they aren't going to be assimilated. While I can't really speak for anyone else, I think these are the root problems many people are likely having. They're certainly mine, anyways. This isn't organic growth. The site has been experiencing organic growth and this ain't it. We'll see how everything shakes out, but I think it's only natural that people are concerned.

>>6972 >their streams break chat site-wide even when they're offline The chat daemon has been responsible for 90% of the site's instability from the beginning. The error 500 pages, the site hanging and not loading after reboots, etc, are almost entirely the chat daemon. I have a solution for that but am waiting for the site upgrade. I've been pricing things out for it all day. The server has been upgrade. It now has 8 (shared) threads, and if that isn't enough, I'm willing to try 4 dedicated threads. I'm hesitant to commit to 8 dedicated threads but as a temporary measure it might be ideal.

I went and spoke to the host of that kinoplex out of anger but apparently he genuinely didnt know he's causing issues and will find another solution if there is no way for him to use 8tv due to his high activity crashing the stream. Didnt even argue or anything, he apologized constantly and was completely unaware Now I feel like a dick lol

>>6986 Sounds like he's better than the usual /tv/ trash that's for sure.

Yo Codexx, I know you upgraded the servers, but I think its shitting itself again. Probably overload

Site is down. I think kinoplex streamed yesterday, but I'm not sure. Anyway, the site was fine this morning, so I don't know what happened.

So, when's the upgrade?

>>7083 Site is working now. Thank you Codexx.

Is password recovery still fucked? I will make a new account then.

>>7124 Use Keepass dumbass

A Brief Update I'm currently watching the GPU market. I would really like to nab an Arc A40, but it's not widely available and most other Arc GPUs are oversized or cost more than I'd like to pay per unit. Plus, they're all backordered. This is advantageous, because I can hope that new Epycs release in the meantime. If they do, we should see a glut of cheap last-generation servers flood the market. So I apologize for the additional wait, but I think having AV1 support and a newer generation of Epyc is worth it. This could potentially extend the lifespan of the server by years. I'm just as eager to get my hands on the parts and start tinkering as you guys are to see the hardware upgrade. I'll have more updates soon. I'll keep you guys looped in on the build. >>7124 I never actually configured it. Setting up outgoing mail will be on the docket after the hardware rebuild.

so i do long overnight streams of music but i woke up, 10/21/2022, to my stream being duplicated 3 times on the front page. wtf i said? so i stopped the stream, and voila. all 3 streams vanished instantly. sorry to anybody this might have effected and i hope this doesn't happen ever again

>>7145 What's the deal with the hardware rebuild? Is it not complete yet? I guess I'm setting up a new account in that case since I can't recover my current one.

>>7479 Waiting on GPUs, but there has been movement. But the market is still broken. Lots of models are hard to acquire and I have very specific needs because of size and power constraints.

It's worth pointing out again the password recovery feature is still borked. Now I don't mind making new accounts each time I forget but it'd be much more convenient to fix the feature.

New Domain The site has moved to https://8chan.tv While I had planned on using the original domain forever, but the service outgrew the subdomain. I might still host temporary/beta services as subdomains, but most projects will probably be launched on their own domain from now on. Software Upgrade The site is now updated and running version 0.9.x of the software. Hopefully updates will be cleaner in the future, but the new policy is I cannot promise data will be retained successfully until the software is out of beta and stable! Unfortunately, it seems the database from the old release cannot be made compatible with the new version of the software. We cannot put off the upgrade any longer. You will need to create a new account and add any channels you want. On the bright side, you can now use custom guest names, and chat supports emotes. There are a bunch of other quality of life features, including private channels, adding moderators, etc, that make it well worth the switch. E-mails E-mails now work and verification is required to sign up. Gmail doesn't seem to like the messages, however. If you have any difficulty registering, or you insist on using a Gmail to log in, then please contact myself or Suds and we can manually override. I cannot promise you will receive notification e-mails on a Gmail account. Community Speaking of Suds, I have promoted him to Community Manager. Please forward help requests his way when possible, and he will try to mediate. If the issue needs to be escalated or feedback passed on, he can reach me directly. I will update the OP with the new domain and update our frontend, Aleph, with embed support in the coming days. As usual, please drop any complains or suggestions here and I will accomodate where I can. Hardware Upgrade Still coming down the pipeline, but not there yet. Intel has finally started shipping their workstation GPUs... to OEM partners. Hopefully I can buy them used or packaged for retail soon. Adaptive Streaming will remain disabled until then.

>>7656 Isn't Suds also the BO of /monarch/? Is he also gay for Inky?

>>7656 Can you add the description to under the stream and not as the channel name. I've got all this black space underneath the stream I'd like to put the text of what's showing. I tried configure panels but it doesn't seem to work.

>>7659 Nevermind, figured it out. If you want to add a description, fill out all fields. Get a panel, then push to live stream.

>>7656 I found a bug when creating channels. For some reason, I cannot create a channel and attach a description nor an image without the site causing a 500 error. I found a workaround where I can just create the stream with the title and update the stream image and description afterwards.

>>7656 So I still have alot of stickers. Is there a way to load them separately?

>>7672 Not currently but I'm going to probably submit a patch for that. I gotta fix the booru first, though.

>>1519 May I be reminded which homeserver the Matrix is on? I lost access to my old matrix account.

Codex, can you pause the booru recovery for at least a week to fix critical stream stability issues? It would help a lot considering that people are using it and it keeps dropping.

>>7686 >It's been a week. FIX THE HICCUPS CODEX

>>7686 It's been over a month, issues still exist.

None of these categories match my channels topic, I stream animation, could you please add an animation/cartoons category?

Small bug. The "currentViews" field on the 8chan.tv API shows 1 eventhought a channel is not currently livestreaming, for instance: https://8chan.tv/apiv1/channel/cd58f328-28cd-4566-b2e7-0eacca85a63d Pic related shows the field showing a 1 despite not being currently active.

>>7807 From reports I've received, the issues are still present but not as bad as they once were. I've also submitted logs and some feedback to the developer and he is going to make some performance enhancements to mitigate. I do not know when that patch will be available. I would also expect a database dump at some point in the future, just to rule out the database as a concern. >>7817 I'd probably just list it under "Kinography" as a catch-all media streaming category, but next time I'm in the admin panel I can add a dedicated Animation one.

Two more bugs. When connecting through an LA based VPN, I was logged out everytime I started streaming with Firefox. I don't know why this happened. Second is the entire site just dying and being unresponsive. Stream issues aside, it's not a good thing to wait 5 minutes for the site to decide it wants to live again while trying to stream.

>>7874 One more, a person joining a room causes it to lag

Full update on state of things: Figuring that the problems plaguing the site are the result of a bad database after deliberation and consultation with the dev of OSP, we moved to test this theory on watch.8ch.moe by using a fresh DB. The stress test went well, but we've migrated the "bad" DB over to the test site and it hasn't exhibited the expected issues as of yet. This could be because it takes a few days for these issues to begin presenting or this could be because the DB isn't actually to blame--at least not solely. Taking this opportunity to rule out another potential cause, we dismounted the S3 bucket from 8chan.tv and the issues we're all aware of seem to have immediately been resolved. This seemed very unlikely and we believe further testing is necessary, so we'll be leaving both sites up for a week or so. Please use both over this duration for testing purposes and take note of any connectivity issues. Are things stable across the board? Do they get worse? We're looking to see if this is just a temporary stability or if it's more permanent. What we'll do moving forward depends on this upcoming week; we may nuke the site and start fresh to rule out anything like a config problem if issues persist and we may contact the host if things don't improve after that. We'll see what happens and move from there. Lastly, both Codexx and myself would like to offer a sincere thanks to everyone for their patience and willingness to help support the site by acting as testers. It's genuinely really helpful. Thank you.

I've decided to terminate the database experiment. The stability of both sites seems correlated to the use of S3 buckets for remote file storage. The test site will be used to test a software upgrade for stability, and then I'll take it out back and shoot it send it to a lovely datacenter in the countryside. The experiment on the production box will continue. I have restored the media, and you can all feel free to upload stickers, edit stream images, etc. The data is being stored outside the bucket for the time being. At some point in the future, I will tinker with fixes for the S3 issue. I've got a couple solutions lined up, I just want to be sure the site is actually stable before trying to measure a performance difference. Please continue to use 8chan.tv as normal. If you encounter stability issues, severe lag, or streams cutting out, please report it immediately. Thank you all for the help and support.

>>7900 (Checked) Nigger. Stop using buckets in your backbone, they're prone to leaks. Thanks for doing something about it Codexx. Had a bit of dropped frames, but no disconnection so far. Much better than before but that was a low bar to begin with :^)

>>7903 Some kind of networked storage is a requirement if I want to eventually add additional frontend nodes or offer any form of video clipping or hosting. If you have experience with S3 or similar and want to help out, I would be happy to consult you for advice. When it comes to web technology, I'm pretty cloud-resistant, so it's not really in my wheelhouse. Unfortunately, newer software tends to assume you're going to run things using cloud infrastructure, and developers are not optimizing for traditional hosting methods.

>>7900 >Try to clear out stickers again by deleting more than one then saving. >Logged out once again.

Eltonel is tentatively planning to stream this Thursday. Probably around 9 or 10 AM UTC. That's going to be around 1 or 2 Pacific or 4 or 5 Eastern. He will be finishing up the site's emotes and soliciting recommendations for an additional one. More info and an exact time to follow.

>>8093 >Eltonel This guy? https://twitter.com/eltonelarts

>>8097 That guy

How about changing the default video sorting on the home page to descending date? I don't think sorting by views is well suited to the site as it currently is.

>>8121 Done. Not sure why By Views is the default setting.

CODEXX SITE IS DOWN

I know what the problem is and I'm working on it.

>>8164 Still buffers from time to time

>>7900 Site is down again

Videos and clips are currently non-operational

>>8180 Videos and clips will be disabled in the short term. I will restore them for a day or two in the future so you guys can download them. I will wait for suds to return so he can coordinate with everyone. I will need to seek out alternative network storage solutions.

Login is currently broken, the login button refreshes the page instead of logging me in half the time, the other half I'm getting logged out after only two page loads at most

>>8184 I've had that happen to me as well. Try again and it should eventually work. I've reported it upstream.

Please fix stickers

>>8632 Thank you.

Some of the default stickers are missing.

>>7656 >Intel GPUs Keep us posted on this, I'm very interested in trying AV1 encoding myself

THE CERTIFICATE EXPIRED. HELP

The query occupants failed check happens about every 5 seconds, it will actually run over the screen, and cover the entire chat side

Certificate expired