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Poz in Tech Anonymous 10/18/2020 (Sun) 10:22:27 No. 1631
General thread for discussing Codes of Conduct and other attempts to take over technology with political aims and enforce behavioral constraints. Point out languages and products that try to force politics on their users. It's become commonplace for tech startups to virtue signal, and for large open source projects to attract users who contribute little in terms of code but demand favorable treatment. Additionally, some have started including political messages in the software itself, or naming releases after issues the developer cares about. Some argue that such constraints and impositions violate the spirit of free software by requiring an agreeable political alignment between developer and user.
>>1604 >muh pozz >does absolutely nothing himself /pol/ will keep losing because of people like you.
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>>1608 >does nothing himself You're a retarded faggot, crying "muh /pol/" and using social-based ""insults"" in an anonymous mongolian basket-weaving forum. Such stupidity and herd mentality have brought things to the current state.
How does and how might migration work in the future with this? Does it mandate a board be wiped from scratch or could importing threads into a board be done while leaving the current threads in place? The latter would be much more ideal.
>>1613 >crying "muh /pol/" >using social-based ""insults"" I haven't insulted you for your obvious /pol/faggotry, I've insulted you because you bitch instead of doing something. Learn2read, inbred retard. Also why the fuck are you posting about Go now when this project doesn't use it? Is it some more unrelated and non-actionable whining?
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>>1619 "insulted" by attacking the group I supposedly am part of, a minority group of "outcasts", to make me feel like a loser for being part of it, and saying that I do nothing and whine. That's characteristic of women: not having arguments and resorting to this level of "insult", such as calling one an "incel". You're an enormous faggot. >why are you posting about Go That picture is just an example. It seems that your woman-like mind is limited in rationality, and cannot infer from the context what I meant by posting something indirectly related to the ideas being presented. To put plainly: "the current state" of technology, that I talked of above, includes associating crappy political ideologies with purely technical things (like programming languages). Herd mentality: having a choice to use any language, and choosing what is easier and popular, is one of the causes of this.
>>1621 >"insulted" by attacking the group I supposedly am part of LEARN2READ, NIGGER. >That picture is just an example. An "example" that is in no way related to the topic of the thread, how convenient. You didn't even try to find some dirt about Python, just shat out the first vaguely programming-related pic from your outrage bait folder. >>1624 Accessible to the public means accessible to the public, disallowing scraping of such data is impossible to enforce so it would only create a false sense of security.
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>>1625 <attacking the group I supposedly am part of <saying that I do nothing and whine >learn to read <getting nothing done even while endlessly ... </pol/ will keep losing because of people like you. <for your obvious /pol/faggotry <you bitch instead of doing something >An "example" that is in no way related to the topic of the thread You're the retard who can't comprehend even basic dialogue it seems, and can't connect two dots or think in an abstract manner. >You didn't even try to find some dirt about Python >vaguely programming-related pic Programming languages' or libraries' documentation websites are vaguely related to programming, indeed. You're a dumb faggot with woman-like abilities of reasoning. You should go back.
>>1625 <attacking the group I supposedly am part of I haven't done that. Once more: LEARN2READ, NIGGER.
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>>1630 Once more: you're a stupid faggot with an infantile woman-like mind. Unable to understand even what the things you wrote yourself, imply. >/pol/ will keep losing because of people like you <attacking the group I supposedly am part of >I haven't done that >learn to read Obviously you can read. That's a trait not uncommon among most retards in this field: having a shallow comprehension of written text. Not seeing through speech figures, not seeing the bigger picture of things, not making associations except for what's apparent. This is the result of having zero taste for real art; only reading, aside from technical garbage, garbage books and garbage on the internet, and spending long times doing basic logic on a computer. Guess I have to make clear that, by saying that, you have used the alleged state of me being part of an external social group, that allegedly is "losing", as a form of discredit. This, again, is a feminine trait, as well as the other shaming, done when unable to argue on intellectual grounds.
>>1633 >nigger still refuses to read >still does what accuses others of doing >still posts off topic >still wonders why the world seems to be against him
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>>1634 >faggot still has no arguments >still unable to grasp general concepts based on localized examples or vice versa >still can't understand the topic even now with the OP >still uses feminine ""insults"" based on group approval Go back and 40% yourself.
>>1633 based as fuck
As someone who has an interest in privacy tech and information security, what are the chances that I'll be surrounded by trannies and communists at any given workplace for which I'm ultimately qualified? I want to believe this area of tech is relatively untouched, but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part. In particular, the recent actions of the EFF and Tor Project have me on edge. https://archive.vn/xNwsi https://archive.vn/GSKub https://archive.vn/J7vtY
>>1650 Whoops, here's another winner I forgot to include: https://archive.vn/SQ3dY
>>1650 self employment
>>1631 go back where you came from, fa/g/got
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"Harmful" language is out, and may soon require replacing it with "inclusive" language in code: https://archive.md/nALE4 https://archive.md/erDpj >While master in and of itself is potentially neutral, the propensity in which it is associated with the term slave in computing makes master on its own guilty by association. Though it is used as a standalone, it’s impossible to remove the association with command and control entirely, and thus we recommend moving away from even singular use. Unsurprisingly, The Linux Foundation, IBM, and Red Hat are participants.
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>>1818 >Linux Foundation What the hell happened to Linus, anyway? I'm pretty new to Linux, but I've watched old interviews with him where he simply didn't give two shits about what normalfags thought of his bluntness. Now, I've heard that he's become more and more pozzed, and apparently that has something to do with his daughter's influence? Does someone have dirt on him? I always wondered if that was why Stallman resigned from the FSF after the tranny fiasco.
>>1826 Linus tried to get out of a conference by organizing a vacation to a different city at the same time. They then panicked and moved the entire conference because of him. When he tried to politely tell them it wasn't necessary and they could make decisions without him, all of his advisors pulled him aside and let loose all their frustrations. Among them, his blunt attitude. The main driver apparently being his immediate successor, a guy who, by default, became the corporate point of contact. They basically ganged up on Linus and got him to agree to be "nicer" for the sake of not making corporations uncomfortable. They don't like the bad PR. As a result, Linus quickly declared he was taking a vacation and that there would be a Code of Conduct that he would be bound by. I don't think there was any thought or concern beyond Linus trying to avoid the situation by placating them and letting it cool off, but the consequences for poz have been astounding. RMS is a different beast. The FSF have been awkwardly trying to push him out for years because, even though they're all extremists under his banner, they don't like him autistically giving opinions on everything and eating his toe cheese. His comments on Epstein were perfectly reasonable, but (((journalists))) made him out to be a pedo defender and the FSF used that as an excuse to bully him into resigning and take his post at MIT from him. It's been a non-stop coup to put corporate interests in charge of the tech industry and to take power away from actual nerds in favor of normalfags focused on the PR over technical decisions and philosophy. Social Justice has just been their blunt instrument to get their way.
>>1827 Is it time to just switch to BSD?
>>1842 Half of BSD is pozzed, too, with some CoCs originating there. The other half is fine in terms of management, and more-or-less kicked SJWs to the curb and let them run to the other BSDs. BSD has two big issues, though, and several smaller ones. First and foremost, BSD license is a cuck license. GPL actively prevents corporations from co-opting open source and supplanting it. They can develop their own alternatives, but not build on what exists as a starting point. OSX is a great example of why the BSD license dooms your project to failure. If your distribution ever catches on, a company can just repackage it with extra features and you become the underdog in your own ecosystem. For all of the problems with Linux making changes for corporate interests, these companies can only use tweaked kernels internally. If a phone OEM uses Android you can request their kernel changes and they must release them. Besides that, driver support is a concern, as is the general ecosystem. POSIX is on life support and you can't run most Linux-based software on a BSD without serious modifications even though their interface is nearly identical. And you'll be writing your own drivers. Realistically, BSD is going to die soon unless something radical happens. It's useful as a server OS where sysadmins know the ins and outs but Linux has spent 20 years trying (and failing) to capture the home desktop market. It's only making inroads now because it's dead simple on most DEs and Proton exists for gamers. Even then, it's like 1% market share and some people just can't grok a Unix workflow. So the answer is "yes" with the caveat of "if you like writing your own drivers for a dying ecosystem where nothing will work out of the box". Maybe in a world where Windows is dead and Linux is king the BSDs would see an uptick as well from people seeking alternatives, and intercompatibility and a new POSIX standard would be desirable. For now, Linux is leeching desktop users from both directions, though. When the current round of greybears retires or dies, BSD will probably die with it. I think Stallman is still handling GNU despite leaving his post at the FSF. Maybe Hurd will exist in usable form someday, but I think Stallman will die before it comes to fruition. It actually has a lot of neat features that enterprises might find useful, but they've never been demonstrated to work reliably outside of academic environments.
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>>1845 Net-, Open- and DragonFlyBSD are quite AIDS-free.
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>>1843 OpenBSD is the most user friendly operating system I've used. (Not idiot friendly though, which is a good thing.) - It's easy to install. (Just boot the usb and press yes everywhere. You're done within like 3 minutes. It's really that fast.) - It's the most minimalist OS I've seen. The default install has like 40 packages? I've installed a bunch of compilation tools and gtk-stuff, tor-browser (which is actually a native package) and I'm only at 242 installed packages. It's impossible to bloat that system. - I can understand the filesystem. It's incredibly clean and there aren't too many files. -OpenBSD is "secure by default". I've had a hacker crack every Linux Box I've installed, but he didn't manage to crack OpenBSD. (This was actually the reason I've switched. pf (packet filter) is an easy to learn firewall. Also the software on OpenBSD is ofter times hardened through pledges and explicit unveiling, as well as other security mechanisms.) I could seriously list a lot of things. Just say if you want me to continue. XD haha I've switched to it as my main general purpose operating system after using it for a week or two. It's has a wonderful FAQ and good man pages, which explains everything you might want to know as a new user. It's actually a complete operating system, instead of just a kernel with some completely heterogeneously developed software but on top and fixed and kept in place with a bunch of glue and tape. But this also means it's not Linux and you will have to get used to it over a span of a few weeks. I agree that the BSD license is cuck license though. AGPL is the ultimate license. That's why Google is spreading fud about it. They are fucking scared of people adopting the AGPL. We have like two threads on OpenBSD over at: http://nanochanqzaytwlydykbg5nxkgyjxk3zsrctxuoxdmbx5jbh2ydyprid.onion/g
>>1845 out of all those dragonfly seems to most interesting. How good is it's native hardware support? only really care about amd which has a "opensource" driver for linux. Driver support for other operating systems that aren't linux has always been something i'm wery about. as an example, tried openbsd once. didn't work. only actually worked on my thinkpad which is kinda obvious cause every scruffy hacker owns a thinkpad for some reason.
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>Point out languages and products that try to force politics on their users. well basically none (i the guess black lives matter banner on golang.org could count?). but if by this you mean politically correct garbage, then every product ever since 1970 UNIX itself was made by inept boomers who would have a heart attack from reading the word "nigger" out of context in their mailing list >guise i am 12 years old and SJW started in 2008 trust me!! >me tooo i am 12 too u are so rite XDDDDD XD X DXD XD XXD >i am red pilled which means i was one of (((them))) too until i realized how much of a fucking retard i was (but still am) DAY OF THE SEAL SOON
>>1633 based desu. /g/ always seems to attract the most petulant of single-mother-raised-manchildren. >>1631 >It's become commonplace for tech startups to virtue signal, and for large open source projects to attract users who contribute little in terms of code but demand favorable treatment Most people in the tech industry are pozzed, courtesy of our degenerative society. It was only a matter of time, especially after one of the most ardent supporters of free speech in the tech sphere, Linus, began to back down. On the bright side, having a deeper knowledge of hardware and software allows for us to not be beholden to these faggots--due to the nature of technology. We should specify, use, and create non-pozzed software. I don't believe its possible for us to have the industry separate tech from politics anymore, regardless, the battle shouldn't be fought there. Technology and sciences should be places such that our genius is allowed to flourish unfettered by worldly qualms. Arguing about politics in this area is just unneeded baggage and detrimental to our craft.
Rightscon is one of the spy networks inside Big Tech. > Brett Solomon, GetUp's Executive Director from 2005-08, went to Avaaz as Campaign Director. https://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/10/lefts-foreign-donors/ The entire Avaaz network is a front for Hamas run through the British foreign office https://web.archive.org/web/20150426222130/http://ukmediawatch.org/2011/10/19/presenting-the-progressive-guardian-approved-group-avaaz-%E2%80%93-astroturfing-for-hamas/ This Avaaz group is huge. You start digging and there are thousands of them in hundreds of non-profit groups all pulling down six-figure salaries, and all of them are loyal to and taking orders from Hamas.
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Apigee is a predictive analytics company that did business in the Middle East. 16 employees, received $173 million in funding https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/apigee https://archive.is/tkksU * Chet Kapoor - CEO and BOD. Co-Founder and CIO at Tenzing Global Investors LLC. Former partner of Perry Capital. https://archive.today/y23N4 * Raj Singh - BOD & Founder. * Gregory Brail - CTO * Uday Subbarayan - Director of Software/Founding Member * Scott Regan - VP, Marketing * Sam Ramji - VP Strategy. Microsoft's director of open source and Linux strategy https://archive.is/6Tpm3 https://archive.is/1F6jA * Bob Corey - chairman of audit commitee * Vab Goel - partner in Norwest Venture Partners * Josh Goldman - partner in Norwest Venture Partners * Promod Haque - board member in Norwest Venture Partners More: https://archive.is/TaCRG * Neal Dempsey * Robert Schwartz * William (BJ) Jenkins * Edmond Mesrobian More team: https://archive.is/OgV82 * Brian Kirschner - Microsoft Director of Open Source Strategy * Anita Paul And rounding it out is their head of developer relations, Shanley Kane. Who went to school in Qatar. http://www.cnmeonline.com/news/new-initiative-aims-to-certify-open-clouds/ https://archive.is/HJ9QI http://qatar.cmu.edu/media/assets/Feb.2009Akhbar.pdf Microsoft's Director of External Affairs was an Islamist spy named Suhail Khan. https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=Microsoft https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individuals/suhail-khan/ http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/82238/who-suhail-khan-paul-sperry https://archive.is/mSL0w Microsoft runs a Social Computing Symposium called FUSE Labs. They are paid online shills, a private mercenary spy agency with Microsoft's technology and financial resources, working for Suhail Khan. > danah Boyd > Del Harvey, Twitter > Clay Shirky (Wikipedia admin) > Joi Ito (NY Times) and Mimi Ito (Wikipedia admin) > Ethan Zuckerman (Wikipedia admin) > Anil Dash Coincidentally, it's the same people who shut down discussion of Gamergate.
Saudi Arabia bought the UN Office of Counterterrorism. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/12/12/1959689/0/en/The-United-Nations-Counter-Terrorism-Centre-performed-Cybersecurity-Innovation-Challenge-in-Collaboration-with-OICT-and-AIT.html The UN Counterterrorism Executive Directorate runs Tech Against Terrorism to promote "migration, diversity, social inclusion" and the UN Alliance of Civilizations. https://archive.is/el7c2 Tech Against Terrorism partners include Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Facebook, and Twitter https://blogs.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/prod/sites/5/2019/05/Christchurch-Call-and-Nine-Steps.pdf The UN Alliance of Civilizations is a propaganda front for terrorists established by Iran and Pakistan and advised by Russia. Its partners include the Avaaz network and Vartan Gregorian. https://ggwiki.deepfreeze.it/index.php?title=UN_Alliance_of_Civilizations Vartan Gregorian is a Qatari agent who financed Barack Obama's political career and the Weather Underground http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_pdf_archive/205/205714317/205714317_201006_990PF.pdf https://www.wnd.com/2010/06/171429/ his son Raffi Gregorian is deputy at the UN Office of Counter-Terrorism https://www.linkedin.com/in/raffi-gregorian-27166616b
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/01/github-regrets-firing-jewish-employee-who-called-trump-incited-mob-nazis/ What are the possible ramifications of Github becoming woke and becoming pozzed? In light of this debacle. It is possible that Github could possibly look into changing it's Company Policy and thus code of conduct >GitHub regrets firing Jewish employee who called Trump-incited mob “Nazis” >GitHub Inc. yesterday apologized for firing a Jewish employee who had urged colleagues to "stay safe" and avoid "Nazis" on the day a mob incited by President Trump stormed the US Capitol. GitHub said it "reversed the decision" and indicated it is trying to hire the employee back. >"Stay safe homies, Nazis are about," the employee, whose identity hasn't been revealed publicly, wrote in an internal Slack chat room on January 6. He was fired two days later, after one "coworker was quick to criticize the employee for using divisive rhetoric" >"I did not know that, as a Jew, it would be so polarizing to say this word," the former employee wrote in a Slack group for Jewish employees shortly "before his corporate accounts got deactivated. The former employee is Jewish and had family who died in the Holocaust >The sacking was reportedly explained by the human relations representative who did the deed, with a “pattern of behavior that is not conducive to company policy.” >The fired employee spoke with TechCrunch last week before GitHub announced its decision to reverse the firing. The man "says he is (((currently seeking counsel to ensure his family is protected, as well as figure out if he can receive damages or some other form of reconciliation"))) and that he ((("is waiting to engage with the company until he has legal representation in place,"))) >The fired employee said he was also threatened with being fired in October when he complained about a lack of (((diversity))) in GitHub leadership. ((("I feel like this could be an opportunity for GitHub to really do a purge and say, 'Do we want white supremacists at this company and how do we get Black leaders into executive management?")))
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Incredibly enough, Leah Rowe of all people has come to the defense of RMS. https://libreboot.org/news/rms.html Shocking news. I had written off the entire Libreboot project after the nonsense, but I might reconsider now. This was a very level-headed take, and aside from some minor bitching about RMS' distaste for plural pronouns being used for singular people I agree with it entirely. It's good to see some people have his back still, even those he's had disagreements with. There's also a huge chunk at the end shitting on projects with a code of conduct. Truly magnificent.
>>3289 It's no surprise that there's much more signatures in support compared to the ones that want to cancel him again. https://rms-support-letter.github.io/
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>>3289 Thanks for the link there anon, bit of heartening news
>>3289 Site is down atm. What relevance does the GCC Steering Committee that removed Stallmann have? How much power do they have over gcc's developement?
>>3289 " RMS is NOT transphobic I’ve been good friends with Richard for many years. I did have a falling out with him (publicly so) a few years ago, but we made up. He has always respected me. When my project, Libreboot, was in the process of joining GNU, I wasn’t out as trans. I came out as trans not long before Libreboot became GNU Libreboot. RMS switched to she/her with me on the spot. No problems. Some people have linked to the following article and suggested that he is transphobic: https://stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html Specifically, people believe that RMS refuses to use correct pronouns with people. People believe that RMS is transphobic for saying per/perse instead of accepting they/them. Let me tell you something: Richard sent me and several other people a copy of that article when he was drafting it. I repeatedly urged RMS not to do per/perse when he suggested it. I strongly suggested that he use they/them when referring to someone generically. When he decided to use per/perse, I was annoyed but not offended; you see, I regard it as idiotic. Clearly, they/them is commonly understood and will cause the least amount of misunderstanding. Being foolish is not the same thing as being transphobic. If you actually tell Richard your preferred pronouns, he’ll use them with you without hesitation. Several of my friends are trans and also speak to Richard, mostly via email. He respects their pronouns also. Funnily enough, the GNU project has these guidelines about pronouns: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.en.html - see: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.en.html#f1 Not transphobic. At all. Same per/pers bullshit. Not transphobic, just stupid. I wasn’t misgendered by other GNU developers when my project, Libreboot, was in GNU. Calling RMS a transphobe is an insult to people who suffer from real transphobia." He would have been better off being anti-trans and telling people to go fuck themselves.
>>1827 >made him out to be a pedo Being a pedo is perfectly reasonable: little girls are cute. YHWH explicitly allows child brides. RMS is a Jew.
>>1843 >GPL actively prevents corporations from co-opting open source and supplanting it Grsecurity would like a word with you. These licenses aren't worth shit if everyone KNOWS you will NEVER sue over them.
>>3428 There is no reason to sue random people over it as it wouldn't be worth the time, but if a big corporation infringes on the license you stand to win millions of dollars and it becomes worth it.
>>3429 >There is no reason to sue random people over it as it wouldn't be worth the time, but if a big corporation infringes on the license you stand to win millions of dollars and it becomes worth it. Grsecurity isn't a random person. They're a corporation (now) and say they're "doing well". They have govt contracts. And have done the most blatant copyright violation against linux copyright holders in history.
go back to pol you stupid fajak
>>1619 I don't think he really knows what specfically he's mad about
>>14012 You are retarded.
>>1826 He became woke.
>>15395 True, indeed. However, Linus used to be better and not a woke cucklord. He's gotten his brain fried substantially by his daughter's influence and clownery. However, As much of a fool he has become, he's no resetera retard levels of hypocrisy. Also, so what if he's an atheist, how is that wokeness in and of itself? The part women's right to "choose" aka an abortion is best left to the states, not the federal government. Has he forgotten how many people died in countries that got under (((communist))) rule!?
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>>1631 relevant inforgraphics
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>>15483 >stop being awake! >human rights should be determined by US states >billions of people dying from man-made causes and preventable disasters under $$$capitalist$$$ rule are just normal >random pic unrel crying about how scientific models aren't static and not realizing there are more than two chromosomal combinations. learn human biology, kid ///­ Cry moar, whiny bitch ­\\\
NixOS has purged "nazis" who disagreed with allowing an lgbt permanent leader seat from the project and forced the former project lead to abdicate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsDYul3J3Dc Why are there so many trannies in Linux dev?
>>15579 Yeah, I saw that. What the fuck is going on with Nix? Seems like they had a decent thing going, but now the troons are fucking it up.
>>15587 It seems they saw a chance to take over when the same leader was basically partnering with some military drone company that used nix a lot, and the usual software pacifism drums started beating and had to keep beating.
>>15592 So basically the troons took over the project because the founder is too weak willed to defend himself.
>>15586 The F in FOSS makes it the home of anarchists. Digital infrastructure enables an essentially post-scarce world-wide economy, it's practically made for commies.


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