Games that are allowed to be discussed fit the following criteria: All console games up to 5th gen. All Pinball games. All PC/Arcade games prior to the end of 2004. All 6th gen games provided that they were not also released on a 7th gen console that is not the Wii unless it came out prior to the end of 2006. All DS or PSP games provided that they were not also released on a 8th gen handheld. These last two rules allow for games like Twilight Princess, Baroque, and Godzilla Unleashed to be talked about while restricting games like Guitar Hero 5 and Pro Evolution Soccer 2013. HD rereleases/collections and ports are to be considered separate games when considering if a game may considered retro. eg: Okami HD does not invalidate its retro status on the PS2. Remakes and hd releases may be discussed but only in the context of their originals. Meaning you may not make a thread about the DQ3 HD-2D Remake but it may be discussed when being compared to other DQ3 releases. Adjacent topics may also be discussed. Magazines, guides, hardware, peripherals, tvs/monitors, etc. Keep in mind though that these are not explicitly the topic of the board and so a bit more effort should be put into OPs involving these things. Hopefully these rules seem fair enough to most people. And remember, if things become too busy here or discussion becomes to lopsided to the newer titles then a v2k board will be made. These are the rules as they stand right now but feel free to discuss them or alternatives in this thread if you wish. We might as well have this conversation now. I know most people feel that the term "retro" as it applies to games should be cut off after 5th gen. This is fair, since after that point games really did start to get smoothed down and corporatised. Not to mention 3d graphics got much better in the 6th gen. A lot of people with this mindset usually suggest a /v2k/ board. I have to say though, if you want to talk about dead boards, a board dedicated to only two console generations would definitely be one considering the traffic we get around here. On the other hand some people use a simple rule of if console is 20 years old then its retro. This makes things simple and let's face it, none of us are getting any younger. Even GCCX has accepted the PS2 and Gamecube as retro though they are played rarely on that show. I think the 20 year rule is good but the problem is you will inevitably face the issue where you end up talking about the 360/PS3 and at that point you're very clearly not in any sort of world where things feel retro. That gen had its own fads and expectations that are clearly different from the ones that game before it. So another option, and one I'm pulling a bit towards and I know some people won't like, is that "retro", at least as far as this board would be concerned, will include 6th gen + DS and PSP and that is the absolute cutoff. The 20 year people will have their stuff and it is nice to be able to talk about Sega's entire hardware lineup on one board. And there are definitely a good amount of ps2 games that still have a experimental retro feel to them. The DS and PSP besides the 20 year rule, their major benefit is that they received a decent amount of retro game remakes and it just makes it easier to talk about those games when no one has wonder if they're allowed to talk about them. HOWEVER, in the event that the board does actually get a lot of traffic or there's too much talk of Halo, then a /v2k/ split at that point would definitely be justified and enacted. But tell if you have an opinion different than what I laid out above.